Eagles Are Peter King’s Pick To Earn No. 1 Seed

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Photo by: Jeff Fusco.

Peter King of The MMQB is expecting big things out of the Eagles this year.

Speaking to ESPN’s Colin Cowherd, King made his pick for the top seed in the NFC.




"I think Philadelphia’s gonna win home-field in the NFC," King said. "The NFC East is down. Even though you look at their schedule, and they’ve got a tough schedule, I think that they’ll benefit by being in that division this year. It’s not often you can say that. It’s probably been years since you could say that. But I think that they are significantly better than anybody there."

The top seed in the NFC has won a minimum of 13 games in each of the past five seasons.

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Doug Farrar of SI.com wants to see more toughness and physicality out of Jordan Matthews:

For a guy his size (6-3, 212), Matthews has a disturbing tendency to go down at the slightest contact -- shoulder hits, ankle tackles, and arm drag-downs. Kelly will put his receivers in positions to succeed away from defenses, but it's a bit distressing how much Matthews will appear to need that, at least for now. Especially when things are so well-blocked for him.

Aaron Schatz of Football Outsiders/ESPN Insider thinks ESPN.com's ranking of Nick Foles at No. 99 among offensive players is too low:

I suppose that we have to figure out how to balance the fact that quarterbacks are inherently more valuable than any other position, but a bigger issue here is a discounting of Foles based on the fact that his 2013 season, while amazing, was just one season. The problem there is internal consistency: How on earth are Tyrann Mathieu and Kenny Vaccaro among the 60 best defensive players in the NFL after just one year apiece but Foles is just No. 99 among offensive players after ranking fifth in Total QBR last year? Yes, a lot of Foles' yardage is built into the Philadelphia offense, which had the highest YAC average (6.6) since Football Outsiders began tracking in 2005, but QBR already considers that. No, I'm not suggesting Mathieu or Vaccaro should be lower -- but if we're willing to grade young players based solely on what they did in 2013, Foles has to be higher.

Judy Battista of NFL.com predicts that Chip Kelly will win Coach of the Year:

He's already one of the game's most innovative coaches, so if his offense continues to evolve, look for Kelly to soon be considered among the league's very best.

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  • Kleptolia

    Breaking news:
    Doug Farrar stuffed into Spam tin by Jordan Matthews; no longer wants to see more toughness and physicality.

    On a different note:
    Great. I just found out I’ve been sounding like Peter King ALL PRESEASON! That’s no way to live!

    • macadood

      I don’t know much about Matthews’ history but since joining the eagles I don’t think he’s been tackled too easily by air or butts…

      like what I’ve seen from him in the quick screen game thus far.

      • Kleptolia

        I’m not nearly as high on Matthews as many Eagles fans are, but I think he’s a good player. Looks ungainly when he runs (like a giraffe on roller skates) but he’s tough and smart and, as you said, good in the screen game. He’s a great 2nd round pick.

        • Andy Six Score and Four

          Last player we had compared to a giraffe ended up with the 3rd best statistical season for a qb of all time. Let’s roll with it.

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    Crap. Damn you King.

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      He’s trying to earn himself the nickname “Mush”. “Put him in the bathroom!”

      • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

        “Sonny (as “The Whale” sits in the bathroom), he ain’t gonna fit.”

      • Andy

        Put him in the effing bathroom.

        • NickS, Combine Warrior

          I know how it goes. I figured I’d try to keep it family friendly for once in my life…. When keepin’ it real goes wrong.

    • Syracuse Eagle Fan

      Maybe Peter himself was jinxed by his appearance in The Longest Yard? Just saw it last night.

  • Phyxius

    Still can’t believe Rivera won Coach of the Year, what a joke.

    • John E. Zang

      Yeah Chip Kelly seemed like a no-brainer considering all the odds and dealing with the fact he didn’t even have a qb nailed down until week whatever. But I think his peers vote on it and people were offended/in denial about Chip and his game changing ways.

  • Kleptolia

    FYI the football outsiders article is an ESPN insider article. ie: paid

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Glad someone called that out.

    • TNA

      that said, I totally agree with the article that DeMarco Murray is also underrated at 91. Obviously, he needs to stay healthy, but as he showed in the last game of the season last year, he’s much more than just a handful.

  • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

    No.1 seed may be the only way to get passed Seattle. I doubt it’ll happen, but thanks for pissing down my neck and saying it’s raining, King.

    • RogerPerdactor

      I actually Hope the Eagles can play Seattle in the playoffs at Seattle.
      I know everyone thinks it’s impossible to win there, but the way the Eagles practice and run plays they are the perfect team suited to win in Seattle.
      They practice with noise…they run no huddle all the time…they don’t use any verbal play calls and they run the ball very well. They can’t match Seahawks physicality in the passing game, but the running game gives the Eagles an opportunity to punish.
      I like that matchup.

      • Eagles4Life

        As much as I like what you said, I’d much rather we do that at home instead of away.

      • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

        Roger Perdactor!? Aren’t you dead for finding Capt. Winky?

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          your gun is digging into my hip, awwwww-uhhhh!

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I know all about the crying game.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            “No, you just don’t do anything for me…. whpssh down boy!”

      • cliff h-MOAR white goons

        not me. i hope they get home field advantage, all backup qbs, every lucky bounce imaginable, and one-way refs. i’ll start seeking style points after the first Lombardi trophy

        • RogerPerdactor

          I hear ya….but our track record at home championships games is not so great. (Panthers, Bucs). Not sure if they choke up because of the fanfare? I stand by my assessment that Chip Kelly’s Eagles are the perfect team to win in Seattle.

          • Piatz1019

            I was having a good day…now all I can think about is how the Bucs never win in cold weather :(

          • pjcostello

            …and if there was a single coach or player still on the team who was part of those losses, MAYBE there would be a connection of some kind. Since there obviously are none, there is no connection whatsoever.

    • Kev_H

      I expect the Seahawks to struggle this year. It is the way of the NFL and has been a while since a defending champion won a playoff game.

  • TNA

    Based on the track record of mainstream media, here are the certainties for the upcoming season:
    1) ‘allas has a top-3 defense and a bottom-10 offense
    2) Redskins win the NFC East
    3) Eagles end up last and get the 1st pick of 2015 draft
    4) Eli throws 54 TDs and 3 INTs
    5) The Jaguars win the Super Bowl

  • Andy Six Score and Four

    Good call by Aaron Shatz with the “internal consistency”. Of course, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a top-100 list that actually practices that concept.

  • Kev_H

    I bet this site would make a lot more money if they didn’t target football fans with Calvin Klein and Lancome ads. Just saying

    • JosephR2225

      Totally agree. I’m a Dior man, myself.

      • Kev_H

        Nothing says Eagles fan like snowballs at Santa, stadium courthouse, cosmetics and fragrances.

    • MagatBrackendale

      Unfortunately the advertising decisions are not made at 24/7. They are made by the execs at Philly Mag.

      • Kev_H

        Somebody ought to tell them about adsense or something similar. The worst a site like Philly.com does is barrage me with advertising for things after I already purchased them, but at least I can tell they are stalking us!

  • RogerPerdactor

    Is it fair to judge the toughness of Matthews in 3 Pre-season games? The idea in pre-season is to not get hurt….Maybe he is just protecting himself well?

    • JofreyRice

      He’s been beating that drum since he evaluated him at Vandy. On the one hand, yeah, we haven’t seen Matthews break any tackles, or really use his size to his advantage in a meaningful way. On the other, he’s averaging 7.5 YAC. So…I mean, who cares? If he starts going down like Maclin once the season starts, then maybe it’s time to worry, but considering the way Kelly’s been using him, and is likely to use him in the slot, he should get functional space to move after the catch. Producing after the catch is really the point of breaking tackles, right? It’s not just to look cool, is it?

      • anon

        it’s hard to evaluate YAC b/c we get everything so well blocked up. Think that’s why we have 5 pro bowl running backs.

        • JofreyRice

          Yeah, but the blocking is a function of Chip, right? So if Farrar wants him to break tackles to get YAC, but the blocking’s got that covered, anyway, then I don’t really care that he’s not breaking tackles like you’d expect a 6’3 220 pound receiver to. Like I’ve said many times, to me this guy is an Eric Decker type. I don’t see him as a transcendent talent…that being said, if he’s as productive as Decker has been, I could not give a crap how it happens. I feel like some of these dorky writers get off on the machismo of tackle-breaking. Desean didn’t break tackles and was our best RAC player.

          • anon

            we’ll see what decker looks like. i hope he’s transcendent the way CK got so excited about him.

          • JofreyRice

            I expect him to look like a capable possession guy that needs an offense like Denver’s to put up 1300 yards. I’m expecting ~800/6 TDs, tops.

      • eaglespur

        goin down like maclin.. hah!

  • Token

    I think there is 0% chance the Eagles win 13 games this year.

    • Robert Baer

      You expecting the season to be cut short to 12 games due to some national catastrophe? (Whispering into comm device, “We have a mango tango situation. I repeat, mango tango. Advise.”)

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      guess he’s thinking 6-0 division. 7-3 rest. i cant get there. sweeping division is difficult. 10/11 wins, beat up division 5-1, play rest at 5-5 or 6-4.

      • Token

        I know the division is supposed to suck. But it never seems to play out like that. Its still a division game. Dallas almost beat us twice. Once with old man Orton. I need to see there wont be brain fart games like that before I can get too excited. Redskins are good enough to beat us. Giants no matter how bad they look can always give us a game. I just cant look past division games.

        Right now im going with 9-7. That probably wins the division.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          that’s all fair. say 8-8 is basement, 12-4 ceiling, most likely 9-11 wins, nothing short of another division title. i think division is really that bad. RG3 is lost. Eli is being put in a system to fail. ‘allas ‘efense is just gawd awful, and i do think Romo and offense is good enough to pull out wins. issue will be, their recipe for victories will be to pass 45 times a game, and now you have Romo in harms way.

          • MagatBrackendale

            Have to agree on Romo. Think he and the Cowboys are just plain stupid to put him out there again. His back is almost toast now. He should take the money and run, before he ends up in a wheelchair for life.

        • Warhound KnowsHstryWarts&All

          Sweeping the division is tough. Reid had some quality teams when the rest of the div. was down and still only did it once. Once or twice?

    • Jason

      Are you willing to give me 1000 to 1 odds? 100 to 1?
      12-4 could win home field, NFC West is going to be brutally tough. GB or NO may win 13 but they might only win 12 as well.

    • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

      Eagles will win 15 games this year!

      11-5 plus a wild card W, divisional round W, Conf. Champ W, and SB W!!!!!!!!!!!

      • MagatBrackendale

        Yessss!!! Sss-boom-bah!!! Go Team Go!!!

  • Dreday410

    Why everyone think SEA is unbeatable at home when Carson Palmer (OF all people) beat them in SEA…..The 1st month of the reg. season is against ALL 2013 Playoff teams they will not finish 13-3 this year

  • Token

    This is as good of a time as any to get the season record predictions.

    Im going 9-7. But if McCoy goes down it gets ugly.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      i’m 11-5, think division is just that bad.

      • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

        9-7 win the division

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          see after the Colts game. think that one is huge. i actually think Eags will steal the Seattle game. that is scheduling nightmare for them, sandwiched b/t 2 SF games, and 10 days off for Eags.

          • Token

            Right now im worried about being caught flat by a Jags team with nothing to lose. I dont think the Eagles are talented enough to look past anyone. Im hoping Chip will have them focused. A L to start would kind of throw a wrench in things with how the schedule breaks down.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            We’d immediately be the worst team in the league. We’re close enough as is.

          • anon

            ESPN would go crazy

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I don’t even want to get started on ESPN. Aside from Fantasy Football Now and actual sporting events (of which there are few), I’m done with them. I can’t take it anymore. The non-stop Michael Sam coverage, blowing Johnny Eightball 24/7, and now this poor Shaw kid. He lied and they’re publicly shaming him for it, essentially. I hit my breaking point with the TMZ-like nature of a channel I once loved.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            so was i, till they kicked Steelers teeth in. think that’s one advantage of being run heavy (for NFL) team, wont start off sluggish.

          • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

            I was thinking the same thing, especially after a ho hum offseason and preseason. But have you seen the Jags roster? Wow. Where have you gone Tony Boselli? If there’s a can’t lose game on this schedule, its this one.

          • aub32

            I think we will be ok with Henne starting. I love the fact that the rest of the division will likely have to face Bortles.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Haha never really thought about that. That’d be hilarious if we’re the only team in division to beat the Jags.

      • OldDuckMcDoc

        Anything in the 9 to 11 wins range seems reasonable all things being equal.

        I’d split the diff and say 10-6.

      • Honest_T

        I am not as down as everyone else about the NFC East, especially because the division played the Eagles tougher than the rest of the league last year. Dallas’s D is a mess but they have an offense that can put up points, The Giants are healthier, added some Defensive talent, and better, though O-line is still a ?, and Washington lost Fletcher but added Hatcher and the Offense is going to be great if the line can give RG3 time.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          man, you are the only one. dont think they are 2-14 bad, they’ll probably beat up on eachother, but all have major issues. RG3 is a mess, Eli is in offense to fail and ‘allas ‘efense is just gawd awful. Jones has quotes out now asking for patince this yr.

          • anon

            giants managed 7-9 last year after the way they started. same thing when skins were like 2-6 to start the season.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Giants managed that because of Jon Beason, whom they don’t have for the first 4-6 games.

          • Token

            Why does preseason performance matter for every team except the Eagles? :)

          • aub32

            You noticed that too huh.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            See the thing with him and AP?

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            no, what’s it about?

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            At best (for us), tampering. At worst, AP is serious and Dallas swindles a trade to get him to Dallas.

          • JosephR2225

            When was the last time in a trade that Dallas did the swindling?

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Not sure. Don’t think they’d be the one doing the swindling if they actually did trade for him.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            heard nothing about that, you have a link? wow, look at these caphits! still have to sign Dez to 12-15m hits. AP is great, but he’ll do more damage to cap than improve over Murray (who is really good, they just refuse to run the ball).

            http://overthecap.com/player/adrian-peterson/1753

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            It’s an ESPN story that I got wind of via team stream: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11420073/outside-lines-vikings-adrian-peterson-tells-dallas-owner-jerry-jones-wants-cowboy
            He does say that he’d like to “at the end of his time with the Vikings”, but the rules are pretty clear on procedure when such a conversation happens and JJ didn’t think he needed to follow the rules.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            nflpa is also checking into JJ for contract negotiations w/ player w/out lawyers being involved. JJ did it with Smith, and just got caught doing it again w/ Dez.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I hope he lives for at least as long as I do.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            my organ donor card has ‘for Jerry Jones Use Only’ stamped on it.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Should be a requirement for all Eagles fans. Option of Snyder or Jones. Your pick.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            nawh, not worried about Snyder. he’s a scumbag, could see him harvesting organs on his own time. JJ, he worries me. he’s too busy partying, running around with b-rated strippers. doubt Stephen Jones is making him see any docs, that family seems like a pack of wolves fending eachother off.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            “that family seems like a pack of wolves fending eachother off.” best part is that this is in no way difficult to imagine.

          • Jeff Asay

            Not many posts make me burst out laughing. Nice!

          • aub32

            That’s because he gets hurt anytime you give him the ball more than 10 times a game

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            It pains me to think I took him in fantasy this year. Please don’t black ball me. I was picking 9th and went WR in round one. By round 2 I needed a back and he was the best available. The people in my draft room spit up beer when I picked up (knowing my Eagles allegiance). I was sickened for two reasons – first and foremost he plays for the hated Boys and second, I know he’ll get hurt.

          • aub32

            I hear you. I ended up with Romo on my bench. I don’t feel as bad taking any cowboys this year. Because the truth is their defense will be so bad Romo could give me 30 points and Allas still losses by 10.

          • borntosuffer

            Good point.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Just looked at the cap hits. It’d be a stupid deal to do, which means Jerry might do it anyway. Vikings would actually be smart to consider a deal after the season for a draft pick or two just to save the cap space. Dallas would have to take all the money and get him to agree to new deal to spread all the money out over 5yrs while guaranteeing basically the first 3. Again, it’d be a stupid deal. And wouldn’t be as bad for us as I thought. Forgot he’s 29. Come on, Jerrah!

          • MagatBrackendale

            He’s 29 but with some pretty amazing recuperative ability. He could still be getting 1500 yards at 35, with a very good O-line. ;~)

          • JofreyRice

            Damn ADP would go to 2nd best RB in the NFL to 2nd best in his own division!

          • JofreyRice

            Yeah, RG3 hasn’t looked good now for awhile. His mechanics are still all jacked up. Not going to play QB at a high level if you’re falling off throws. Not to mention the vicious hits he seems to attract.

            Andre Williams looks like a legit RB for NYG. I think they actually have the most chance of making noise. If Coughlin can trust a running game enough to not force Eli into trying to win games single-handedly, their offense could be solid.

            Dallas is just a cesspool of despair. Horrible team. They’re so bad, it’s not even going to be that much fun to watch the Eagles steamroll them. Ah, who am I kidding? Yes it is!

          • anon

            rashad jennings needs to be the man, have some fantasy teams relying on that.

        • Andy Six Score and Four

          No man is an island… Except for you with that take on the NFCE.

        • aub32

          I’m with you. It’s fun to make fun of the other teams, but they could definitely pose a threat…..well not the Giants, but the other two. The skins have improved on both sides of the ball. I like their collection of weapons better than ours. They have better WRs, a top 8 RB, and a budding TE that showed more than what we saw from Ertz. And the loss of fletcher is like us losing Avant. He was a better locker room presence than player last year. Though Shady, our O line and coach give us a better shot. The Cowboys are stacked on offense, and though their defense stinks out loud, they managed to contain our offense pretty well in the last meeting.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        It almost feels empty around here without all the “Vick owns this division” talk…. Almost.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          glad USC v Tex A&M is on tonight, have excuse not to watch. i’d be really pissed if i was season ticket holder and had to pay full price for 4th game garbage

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I’ll watch, if only to watch Momah.

          • OldDuckMcDoc

            ….for the last time in an Eagles uniform.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            He’s going practice squad…. #Measurables

          • OldDuckMcDoc

            Boo! Cut him……#lousyatfootball

          • Wilbert31

            If Momah doesn’t separate himself from Benn, Maehl, DJ2 tonight, it will clearly by Mark Barkely’s fault!!! Noodle armed loser!

          • anon

            I don’t even care anymore i’m just excited to watch the eagles play. excited for football.

          • MagatBrackendale

            I’ll watch to memorize the new guys’ uniform numbers. The ones that should be staying anyway.

        • Andy Six Score and Four

          Ha! I forgot about that line!

        • aub32

          He destroyed the Skins last year and had a comfortable lead over the Giants before getting hurt. Just saying lol

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Destroyed skins in first half. Only won by 6…. And I wouldn’t call 16-7 a comfortable lead when leaving the game, especially since it came on 6/14 passing and 3FGs. Oh, and he didn’t do anything againts the Giants the second time around, either. Just sayin. Prior to last season, he did very well against the division.

          • anon

            hahahaha. You must have forgotten that Kelly shut that skins game down in the 3rd quarter.

            A 2 possession lead is what i would call comfortable — what do you need? 40-0? And he was obviously still hurt during last gmen game — he tried to play solely so to keep barkley off the field.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            2 possession in 2nd quarter? Good thing you don’t coach… Kelly may have “shut it down” but you still gotta score. Even a FG would’ve taken the angst out of the 4th Q.

          • aub32

            Exactly. Foles gets defended for coming on late against the Saints after stinking it up for 2 1/2 quarters, but Vick get criticized for obviously taking his foot off the gas during a blowout.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Foles gets crushed for a bad sack that didn’t extend a lead, Vick gets praised for leaving the field hurt with a lead. Works both ways.

          • anon

            We weren’t praising him just don’t think he should be denigrated as ineffective when he was actually effective

          • aub32

            Foles didn’t have just one bad play in that game. Go rewatch the game. He stunk. Vick didn’t have a stellar performance against the Giants. I stated he had a comfortable lead early and was driving. Is that praise, or is that actually what happened?

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Given that the intent of the “comfortable lead” was supporting the ownership of the division talk, yeah that’s praise. And we clearly have differing views of comfortable leads, especially with this defense.

          • aub32

            That’s fine. We differ on what a comfortable lead is. I am sure we both can find people to agree with us either way, though I question if you’d feel the same way if it had been Saint Nick with only a 2 score lead. Yet that still has nothing to do with your blatant dismissal of the shellacking he gave the skins. Are you incapable of giving the guy any credit? You do realize that offering a good word about Vick will not hurt Foles’ feelings. You can be a fan of both guys. It’s very easy.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            “He destroyed the skins in the first half”. That’s what he did. He destroyed them in the first half. And given the use of the term “destroyed” it makes it very clear I’m aware of what he did. He destroyed them. How much clearer do you need that? Is that not praise enough? How can I state that better so I appease you?

            EDIT: A comfortable lead to me is 4 scores. Preferably in the second half.

          • OldDuckMcDoc

            Yeah, no. Foles did not “stink” against the Saints. Stinking is what Foles did in the first game against Dallas last year, or (for balance) what Vick did against the Cards the year before that. Or what Mike McMahon did basically every time he was on the field in Philly.

            Foles left some plays on the field against NO but overall he was somewhere around average at worst.

          • aub32

            He shouldn’t have even been in the second giants game. He owned the division, his health is another story. Up two scores with the ball and driving in the first half is comfortable in my book. And those were garbage points by the Skins. That game was over in the first half. He also doesn’t play defense. If the almighty Foles put up that kind of performance in the first half, no way would you bring up the second half where the team was obviously in coast mode.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Ah, the old he doesn’t play defense argument. Classic.

          • aub32

            So if Foles has a game where he’s 24 for 28 with 4 passing TDs and we lose, are you going to say Foles had a bad game? Get outta here. At first I thought you were just kidding, but you’re as bad as some of the “Vick can do no wrong” crew, just a different player.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            The problem is you’re the exact same way but against Foles. He could do the exact same thing and all you’d say is, “well, he’s just hitting players in open space” or “did you see the team they faced?” or “some of those throws his WR bailed him out” or “he didn’t hit a guy more open” of “he picked on a second team DB”. You do this. All of the time. Literally every good play he has you go out of your way to try to find a negative. Christ, the kid threw 7 TDs in a game and you say “it was Oakland”. So please, spare me the “you’re as bad as some of the ‘Vick can do no wrong’ crew.”

          • aub32

            I think you are confusing me for others. I offer criticisms of Foles, but I have always said he had an amazing season. I did not discredit his 7 TD game. I said there was no pressure in the game because he was guaranteed to start the very next week with Vick still injured. He still had to perform. You and other act as if I need to preface every statement with praise for Foles before I criticize him. The fact is I have said on numerous times that he won the job and deserved to start. I have said he’s an NFL QB. My question about him is can he be a franchise QB. He is limited physically. That’s fine. Not every QB can be Farve or Luck. However, where he needs work (progressions, holding onto the ball, being decisive) is where QBs who pay from the pocket need to excel. I want to see that from him, but that in no way means I don’t think his play was very very good. I bring up luck when it comes to 27/2, but I said that Manning was extremely lucky when he threw 20 TDs before throwing one INT. So please don’t lump me in with you or the other Vick fanatics, as Vick has plenty wrong with his game as well.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I’m definitely not confusing you for others. You’ve found a way to discredit almost everything he’s done. No one’s saying you need to praise everything he’s done or believe he’s the franchise QB as he definitely has some growing to do, but if you want to have a selective memory so you can make ridiculous statements like, “So please don’t lump me in with you or the other Vick fanatics…” go nuts. And go Eagles.

            EDIT: I’ll keep a spot warm for ya on the Foleswagon when you’re ready to climb aboard ;)

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Re: Vick doesn’t play defense. It’s true, he doesn’t. And Vick did play very well in the first half against Washington and Kelly did shut it down prematurely in the second half.

            Thing is, Foles doesn’t play defense either. So we get to the consistency issue. Kelly shut it down in the second half against Washington and Arizona when Nick played too. Nick put up 30 points and a ton of yards against Minnesota and Nick didn’t allow a single completion to Kyle Orton.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ Kelce’s Beard

      I like your line of thinking.
      NFC-E: prognostications
      nyg 7-9. but 4-12 if global warming.
      wash 5-11. but 3-13 if taxes increase.
      dal 2-14. but 0-16 if all goes well.

      • JosephR2225

        Well… at least we know Washington is going 3-13. That’s good news I guess.

    • anon

      I don’t think mccoy is that important. The line is the most important. Of course mccoy can break plays, but we can get 5ypc with anyone on the roster.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        Oh no you di’int!

      • Token

        Wow. Im not even gonna go down this road after saying this. But McCoy is the single most important player on the roster IMO. This team would have been much worse without him last year.

        • anon

          agree single most important player. but kelly is trying to take the shake and bake out of mccoy between the line and the downfield blocking he just wants guys to hit holes and sprint.

          Even polk managed like 8ypc and he’s not even the best backup.

          • Token

            Take what makes McCoy dominant out of his game? Just enjoy McCoy while he lasts. This isnt college, Chip cant just throw anybody in there and be a great team.

      • Andy Six Score and Four

        You wouldn’t be saying that if Bryce Brown was our featured back. :)

        • anon

          I have no doubt BB could crush a screen game. He’s killing it in buffalo right now. He’s averaging like 10ypc in buffalo.

          • aub32

            in preseason against backups

      • aub32

        whoa, did you watch last season? Don’t be a victim of Polks 11 carries, several of them when the game was out of reach.

      • Breathe 21

        You don’t actually mean that in a playoff setting right? Like if we played Sea, SF, or NO? Maybe you mean against weak defenses in the reg season.

        • anon

          Way less tatelnted rbs run on those guys. it might require foles to do more. Obviously mccoy is the man. but the difference between him and the next guy isn’t like going from foles to MB.

          • Breathe 21

            McCoy is one of the best, if not the best RB in the league. The difference between him and our other backs is Peyton Manning to Barkley. There was a significant drop off when he came out of games last year. Hence why traded for Sproles.

          • aub32

            McCoy is a top 2 back in the league. The backups aren’t even in the top 40. That’s a huge drop off. Shady isn’t just great compared to who is in the league now. He will be the best RB in the history of the franchise after this year. I think you are way off on this one.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ Kelce’s Beard

            well, now, hold on — wilbert montgomery was good in his day, too. but lest we not forget his identical fill-in, hubie oliver. same situation really.

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Fair, I think 10-6 with 5-1 in division

  • kpm

    Double SI Jinx #DreamTeamFlashBack

  • Yes_General

    Can’t believe we are a week away from some football

  • bleedgreen1982

    I Wish The Eagles Were Capable Of Winning A Playoff Game. Just Glad Dallas Has Done Worse For The Last 15 Years!

    • Septhinox

      Of course they are capable of winning a playoff game. What kind of isht is that?

      • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

        More importantly, why is every word capitalized? Is it the title to the world’s most depressing short story?

        • BlindChow

          It’s a Jaden Smith tweet.

        • Michael Myers

          very funny

  • JosephR2225

    Give me one of whatever Peter King is drinking.

    • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

      he spends like 2/3rds of his column space telling you what he eats and drinks. Very Bill Conlin-esque.

  • aub32

    I like that so many national media guys are saying that we are going to run away with the division because the other 3 teams are so bad, but I can’t help the oddest feeling of deja vu given the fact that most of the same guys were saying the exact same thing about the Skins last year.

    • OldDuckMcDoc

      Who are you picking?

      • aub32

        To win the division? The Eagles of course.

        • OldDuckMcDoc

          Phew, thought you were suggesting the national guys were suffering the same collective madness that had them pick the One-Legged-RGIII-led Washington last year.

          Gotta be honest, I do get a little nervous when everyone seems to be on the Eagles bandwagon. Even Token has us breaking .500!

          • aub32

            I do think that how poorly the other teams played last year has blinded toward the improvements made in the offseason. I am picking the Eagles to win, but I think WAS will be legit if RG3 looks like he did his rookie season. Also, I cannot forget how we weren’t able to blow out the Kyle Orton led Cowboys. That game should have never been that close.

          • OldDuckMcDoc

            Washington could be decent.

            Dallas game was essentially the first taste of playoff football for a lot of the younger guys. Not surprised there were some nerves, and that Dallas D go shorn of its few talented guys so I don’t sweat them so much.

          • aub32

            The guys they lost didn’t play that game. The only person who played that’s gone is Hatcher. Ware, Spencer, and Lee were all injured, which is all the more reason the game should not have been that close. Most of our offense has had playoff experience. So that’s not really a legit excuse.

          • MagatBrackendale

    • JosephR2225

      On ESPN: 5 Giants, 5 Redskins, 2 Cowboys
      On NFL.com: 3 Giants, 2 Redskins, 5 Cowboys, 1 Eagles
      On CBS: 4 Giants, 2 Redskins, 1 Cowboys

      I don’t put much (any) stock in what the national guys say, and I think the predictions are silly, but I don’t think anyone was looking at the Redskins as a runaway favorite last year. Eagles have a couple things going for them this year that the Redskins didn’t last year. Namely, their star QB isn’t 7 months removed from an ACL reconstruction.

  • MagatBrackendale

    Are the Peter King and MMQB haters in love now?

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      No

    • JofreyRice

      not even close. The guy has fawned over the Eagles for years. Doesn’t make his weekly drivel about lattes and the Bosox any more palatable.

      • MagatBrackendale

        Can’t stand lattes myself. Coffee should be hot! The Bosox can be interesting every 10 years or so. And I have noticed one or two people commenting here do their fair share of fawning. Makes up for the ones who are always negative I suppose. A real fan should be half “Yay Team” and half cycnic. ;~p. Still, I agree. King is just another guy who happens to get paid for spouting his opinions.

  • NickS, Combine Warrior

    The Ray Rice Rule just got put in effect!

    • anon

      what does it say?

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        1st offense – 6 games
        2nd offense – lifetime ban

        • anon

          They really go crazy with penalties.

        • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

          So his suspension got pushed to 6 games then? It should’ve…

          • aub32

            I don’t think so. I don’t think they can make a penalty harsher once passed.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I know… just silly I guess. “You did this – 2 Games!… next person who does it, 6 Games!”… doesn’t make much sense to me… that’s like my neighbor getting a $500.00 fine for not paying parking tickets and then the local gov’t saying that if I don’t pay ‘em I’m going to jail.

          • aub32

            It all comes down to dollars and cents. The number of women watching the sport is increasing all the time. They are buying jerseys and all sorts of other apparel. What will the NFL do with all those pink Brady jerseys if they piss all their women viewers off. Personally I think it should have been a change made over the offseason so that it at least gives the illusion this was something they spent a considerable amount of time thinking about instead of a knee jerk reaction that might as well be accompanied with “Are you happy now? Shut up and buy some merchandise.”

          • anon

            Goodell is the worst — but he’s making sure his bonus has more 0s every year.

          • aub32

            We still have yet to hear one word about how Irsay will be punished, but that’s none of my business (Kermit the Frog voice)

          • Warhound KnowsHstryWarts&All

            So, as a society we can never adjust the punishment for a crime? Hey, let’s bring back prohibition ’cause laws should be cast in stone!

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Nah. That’s done with.

        • anon

          If i’m a player i wouldn’t even party anymore. Some chick says you beat her and it’s over. might as well just stay in church until you get out of the league.

          I’m not saying DV isn’t bad, it’s terrible. but lifetime bans for a second offense? Feel like they’d rather kick you out than forcing you into a program, etc.

          And what level of DV triggers it? 6 games for a knock out – or is it any charges filed if you plead guilty / nolo / or it’s caught on tape?

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            I’m right with you on that. They better have some good attorneys and PIs who dig into every girl they touch. My entourage would go from friends and bodyguards to these two. You wanna get near my boy? Sign please.

          • anon

            it’s terrible — they messed up ray rice’s punishment so they just took it to another level.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Yeah it’s crazy. Don’t get me wrong, the punishment for ALL ACTS OF VIOLENCE need to be harsher, not just domestic, but that’s just clearly reactive. Always a fan of the 3-strike system.

          • Breathe 21

            I think beating a woman senseless once is worthy of a lifetime ban. Atleast a season long suspension from the first offense. If the penalty is not severe, players will not respect it. I’m fully ok with the penalty because it should NEVER happen in the first place. Ray Rice’s woman was unconscious… We can’t have that.

          • anon

            yeah but that’s not every case. think the rule gives chickenheads too much power. If she’s being physical now you’re a** out b/c that’s 6 games for touching. You have way more to lose than she does.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Man, I’m sorry, but unless she’s brandishing a deadly weapon there is no excuse ever to put your hands on a woman. I’m sure many guys in their lives have had a drunk / angry argument with a girl that turns into slapping, flailing, and screaming. I know I have, haha. Regardless though, I just put my arms up to my face like a boxer and got away, plain and simple. It’s not hard to defend yourself against someone who can’t hurt you on their best day. Locked in an elevator with them? I still don’t care. Just cover your face and wait for it to be over.

          • anon

            I agree with you, 100% and i don’t want to make it seem like i think DV is ok under any circumstance. I just hate to see people’s livelihoods ruined unless it’s ray rice level.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I hear ya, but a “chicken head” probably can’t manage to ruin an NFL career without some evidence of her claims – maybe like a video of her getting dragged out of an elevator unconscious? Case in point, the chick who tried to say Shady “threw her off of a bus after physically assaulting her”. Sounds like a chicken head who failed at getting some money to me considering she was hired help on a party bus with a rich athlete and nothing came of it.

          • anon

            yeah see this is the example i mean. is that 6 games for shady under the new rules?

            I want to distinguish gold diggers from g/f and spouses so i said chickenheads.

          • aub32

            Google Brian Banks

          • OldDuckMcDoc

            But that’s why you get a six game ban first. I can forgive someone one screw up, but if you beat up a woman a second time while knowing it will end your career if you get caught then that’s some flying-in-the-face-of-evolution level stupidity and I’ve got zero sympathy.

          • Claire

            So if a guy hits a girl, but doesn’t knock her out, they don’t deserve to lose their livelihoods? I get the concern for somebody crying wolf, and somebody being punished unfairly for it. Totally legit concern, but hitting a woman is not ok. It’s just not. As a woman, I really, really don’t like the message that the NFL has sent with the way it handled the situation on any level.

          • Breathe 21

            A girl can’t just make the story up, there needs to be proof. If a girl is a “chicken head,” an NFL player shouldn’t be dealing with her. You’re an NFL player. You don’t have to use excessive force to defend yourself against a woman. Either restrain her or walk away. (I haven’t heard the term chicken head since the early 2000s lol)

          • aub32

            It’s not that easy. Some of these women plot on dudes. You can’t point out every “chicken head” at first glance. I used to hang with several of the football players at Penn State. I couldn’t believe how girls would throw themselves at them and scream bloody murder when they didn’t get what they want. You need proof in court but not in the court of public opinion. Hell you don’t always need proof in court. What about the player that got locked up because some girl in HS accused him of rape. The guy spent years in jail, and when he got out the same girl found him on facebook and told him how he looked good and she wanted to see him.

          • Breathe 21

            I’m talking about disclipline in the NFL, not by the court. Stuff like that doesn’t work on NFL players with lawyers, ask Big Ben… I don’t want to hear bs excuses from grown men on why the beat a woman senseless. You’re an adult with a dream job. Don’t put yourself in stupid situations. Let’s not act like majority of NFL players are innocent.

          • aub32

            So let’s say the girl was drunk and beating Rice in the elevator. Rice pushes her and she falls and hits her head. I don’t know what happened, and I do not want to sound like I am defending Rice. I am just saying that women face relatively no repercussions in cases like this, where as a man can handle the situation 90% correct and still be at fault and lose everything.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            That’s my point below though… you don’t even need to push her. A push from me (6’0″, 200lbs) would probably send my fiancee (5’0″, 100 lbs) flying into something that would hurt her so it’s not as benign as the phrase suggests. Literally, just cover your face and let her get it out. It’s not that hard. Now if she’s got a knife, pointy shoe, gun, anything that can cause substantial physical harm to me, then yes I’d drop her.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            What if she goes for the jewels?

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Fetal position – take the beating like a man, from a woman. Weapons are a different ball game, but if it’s her and her hands (although my fiancee’s ring could be considered a weapon lol) then I can take whatever she is dishing in her moment of rage without wrecking her universe.

            ***EDIT***
            If I were in the elevator getting whaled on I would just turn my back to her (face the wall) and crouch down.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Easy to say “fetal position.” What about when you’re standing having an argument, and she smacks you a few times, then just goes for the TKO?

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I’ve been there so it is easy for me to say – Bi-lingual Puerto Rican, Cuban, Colombian women who’s drunk and pissed off screaming at you in multiple languages and throwing fists. I knew I’d hurt her severely if I retaliated so I simply let her finish. It didn’t hurt at all. Worst case scenario she does knock me out, oh well. I’ll wake up and she’ll be in jail. At least I won’t be in jail for manslaughter.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            By TKO I meant the jewels. Since it’s not an actual KO I figured a TKO is the closest thing. And I’m mostly being facetious. But good for you for doing the right thing. Hell, all that Spanglish, how could any man be anything but turned on? lol

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Haha I was turned on. I think we consummated our evening a few moments afterward haha.

            That’s what pisses her off the most to this day (that was years ago by the way). Every time she gets angry and goes spanglish I go from six to midnight :-).

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Hahaha yup, that’ll do it!

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            “AHHHH – unintelligible language – AHHHH – spanglish” … “damn you’re sexy”… “No I’m not! I’m pissed, take me seriously”… I love it haha.

          • Michael Myers

            walk away…or run

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            I’m sorry, I just don’t agree. You attack someone, you give them your blessing to respond in kind. Don’t pick physical fights with someone who can beat the crap out of you and think that your gender makes you immune. A lot of women think the way you do. They think they can attack a man and because they’re a woman they won’t suffer any consequences. That kind of inequality is not healthy in any way.

            If someone attacks you, man or woman, you have every right to stop their attack with minimum necessary force. That doesn’t mean knocking them out cold in an elevator, but I’d have no problem with someone shoving an attacking woman away from them.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I don’t disagree with you in principle at all 124 A.D. I really don’t. Unfortunately we live in reality and in reality that is the way that it is. Unfortunately it doesn’t take much more than a shove from a much stronger person to possibly cause serious physical harm to a weaker person. Right or wrong, once the head of the moment is over I, personally, would never be able to forgive myself if I permanently harmed my girl whether she had it coming or not.

          • Michael Myers

            you dont push her…simple

          • Warhound KnowsHstryWarts&All

            “Some of these women plot…” I’ve heard of a few celebrities who record any one-night-stand type encounters to avoid problems. Some will always walk a girl down to the lobby of a hotel if she’s leaving and the be sure to have a pleasant exchange with her in the presence of the desk-clerk. These are just a few things that some high profile guys feel they need to do to protect themselves. Maybe the better thing to do is to avoid any potential problems by being a choir boy.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            At first thought, almost seems to remove power from fiances/wives who are dependent on the player’s income. Her first thought might be to not report it because that’s 6 games of lost money. Ray Rice and his fiance would be losing like 3+ million. If she really thinks about it “Do I want to report this, or do I want to see that $3mil?” Maybe I’m missing an angle, probably am, but seems like you’re right that the dumpsters of the world have the real power here.

            NOTE: Obv Rice’s was caught on video and changes the dynamic. Was just using his salary as an example of lost wages working against married/committed women reporting in non-public situations.

          • aub32

            I really doubt you’d be all that safe in church. There are websites and text alerts that go out to women whenever high profile athletes go anywhere. You’d look around and all of a sudden the congregation looks a little less holy.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            That’s a real thing? Never heard of that. That’s a little creepy.

          • aub32

            Yea. I saw one of the women who runs a site talk about it on ESPN’s documentary “Broke”. The women go to the site and input their number and area. Then whenever there’s a pro player sighting, every woman on the list gets a text telling them which player is out where.

          • anon

            yeah i saw that too.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Yeah that’s all sorts of wrong. Thank God I’m not a pro-athlete.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Well, it wouldn’t be ALL bad.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            True

          • Michael Myers

            I would think that/hope that “proof” would be involved. Not “he said, she said”. I’m sure they’re hashing out the details and sweating bullets in order to appease/satisfy everyone.

        • knighn

          Tim’s sister Jane McManus writes about it here:
          http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/11425377/nfl-implements-domestic-violence-penalties

          What do you know? Roger realized that beating up a woman is worse than doing recreational drugs!

          • Warhound KnowsHstryWarts&All

            “…beating up a woman is worse than doing recreational drugs!” Yeah, that’s what got me. Under the old policy a guy was punished more for smoking pot than beating someone up.

          • A Roy

            But what if the drugs deserve it?

          • Michael Myers

            maybe he smoked a joint and then got beat up…educational…

        • JosephR2225

          So for what it’s worth, it looks like the 2nd offense isn’t a lifetime ban per se, it’s an indefinite ban and they can petition for reinstatement after 1 year, but it’s not guaranteed.

          • anon

            perfect give gooddell all the discretion he wants.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Team Stream and their damned lies!

        • Michael Myers

          I like that. No reason EVER to hit a chick or a kid…and I’ve been punched in the face by a linebacker-type woman. Gotta walk away men. Or run!

          • Michael Myers

            for stealing a blanket off her clothesline to relax in the woods with my gf…btw

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      man, that is one crazy video. hard to believe that was 1st incident either. think it’d be like anything else, gradual build up. like he went straight to public right hook knockout and thinks dragging unconcious girlfriend throw lobby is a good idea.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        Is there anything else besides the video? I mean, if she took a right hook there’s gonna be a mean black eye. Gotta be a pic in evidence. Be hard to imagine it didn’t leak. Things ALWAYS leak.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          not that i saw. what killed NFL was 1, it was on tape 2, that press conference-holy smokes that was bad PR and i generally dont care about PR, team backed Ray way too much, even to point of pointing blame at his wife and 3, ESPN went nuts w/ it like they do everything, and guys like Stephen A Smith got caught up and said some inappropriate things. then the story got legs, stories off the inital story.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            You didn’t even need to go past 1. It being on tape was the kiss of death.

          • Warhound KnowsHstryWarts&All

            Not a big deal – but – did you actually hear Smith? I dislike the man but think that what he said got misconstrued. I believe he was trying to say that if you push a guys buttons to the point that he beats you then you had to endure a beating that you could’ve avoided. What the man did is wrong, but even if he goes to jail you still took a beat-down. Why do something that’s gonna land you in the emergency room? Anyway – that’s what I think he was trying to say.

          • NickS, Combine Warrior

            Might be wrong, but I think Andy essentially said what Smith was trying to say, only Andy said it much more eloquently.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            Shoot, I’ll put down a 12-pack of lager and still be more eloquent than that guy.

    • Mo Gravy

      The whole notion of the NFL regulating off the field behavior (unless it affects on field performance as in the cases of drugs and gambling) enshrines political correctness and smacks of vigilantism. If a player breaks a law the justice system should deal with it, not a yahoo like Roger Goodell. As a football fan (as opposed to a family member or friend of an involved party or even a member of the local community) I don’t give a damn if Ray Rice coldcocks his girl friend or if Michael Vick hangs his dog. I do care if they take PEDS or if they cheated their way to Super Bowl wins like Belichick did. In the Belichick scandal Goodell led the cover-up and ordered the destruction of the evidence. My God, the man has no moral authority or integrity to render judgment on anyone’s off the field behavior. All of the holier than thou ranting about such things in the media (both professional and amateur) are in most cases hypocritical and in all cases annoying.

      • NickS, Combine Warrior

        Can’t disagree with the assessment of Goodell. However, usually committing a crime results in some sort of effect to employment status. It hasn’t with these guys, and even when it does, it’s a slap on the wrist compare to what the average man gets. My problem with the new rule is that it needed to include all acts of violence, not just DV. Makes it reek of being reactionary (which we all know it is) instead of being a proactive rule update for all acts of violence.

  • cliff h-MOAR white goons

    since we all love lists and rankings ;)
    espns power-rankings
    7. eagles
    19. Giants
    21. ‘allas
    24. racist spuds

    • Andy Six Score and Four

      Figure the roasted rosemary redskin potatoes have the highest variability there imo.

      • cliff h-MOAR white goons

        i’ll say ‘allas. think Romo sees Rams game2. their only chance will to beat the living tar out of him. i’ve watched his preseason game at Miami, he’s not 100% moving healthy, no way no how. his arm is ok. they are kid gloving him, hoping that he can play himself into shape.

      • John J. King

        Please stop referring to the Red Skinned Onions from DC by those other names. It shows that none of you have any sense of humor left.

        • Andy Six Score and Four

          You only say that because you haven’t had my double roasted rosemary red skinned potatoes. Dee fricking liscious.

          • Michael Myers

            agreed

          • John J. King

            Maybe a good point. Then Snyder can be known as Mr. Potato Head.

  • Token

    Anyone interested in a board fantasy league? ESPN league. Standard scoring.

    • NickS, Combine Warrior

      Possibly.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ Kelce’s Beard

      put an open call maybe next thread? i’d be down. need at least 8

  • John J. King

    Sheeeeeeiiiiit. When these guys have us rated high we are in big trouble.

  • Michael Myers

    man…no p2p again for me just crap streamers. Anyone gotta linc? I live on cape cod…with no tv…

  • Max Lightfoot

    I don’t know why Colin Cowherd idolizes the guy to such a nauseating degree because Peter King is so seldom right. Actually, both of them are maroons, IMO.

  • paul from nc

    All this talk about sweeping the division —- I’m not so sure.
    Dallas almost beat us twice last year. Both games will be shoot outs. No defense allowed.
    Giants — Nick keeps saying Eli is in a system doomed to fail. I’m not so sure.
    Washington — who knows.
    I;m guessing 4-2 Losing one each to Dallas and Giants.

    • CSpangler

      My problem (or enjoyment) is that Dallas has taken a huge step backwards. They’ve done nothing to help themselves.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/RipperEagle96?feature=mhee RJ

    That’s not exactly something I want to hear. Up until this past year with Seattle, top seeds were usually set up to fail. I just want to make the playoffs first. When you do that, any seed can beat any other seed.