Eagles Wake-Up Call: Rookie Progress Report

Photo by: Jeff Fusco.

Photo by: Jeff Fusco.

From time to time, we like to check in on how the Eagles’ draft picks are doing. With the first preseason game a day away, here’s an update.

Marcus Smith, OLB – He’s been running with the second team at the Jack spot behind Connor Barwin. And in all likelihood, that’s where Smith is going to see most of his action this season. He has looked the part from the first day of camp – long, athletic and can move in space. A couple days ago, he showed some feistiness, mixing it up with James Casey after the whistle. Smith, who has never before been to an NFL game, will likely make some normal rookie mental mistakes tomorrow night, but overall, he appears to be on schedule to contribute.




Jordan Matthews, WR - Matthews is working exclusively out of the slot. He’s getting mostly second-team reps, but that’s going to change soon. Offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur recently praised Matthews for his "spatial awareness." That term fits. He seems to be a master at finding holes against zone coverages and has flashed dependable hands. Next up? I want to see Matthews do two things: use his speed to get open downfield and use his size to make contested catches.

Josh Huff, WR - Things have been a little less sunny for Huff, who is seeing time both inside and outside. There are concepts he knows from his Oregon days and others that are brand new to him. I love his toughness and the way he competes for the football, but would like to see him finish more consistently. Also anxious to see how he looks as a return man.

Jaylen Watkins, CB - He was invisible in the spring, but has started to flash and break up some passes in the past week. The guess at this point is that Watkins won’t see much playing time as a rookie, although that could obviously change before Week 1.

Taylor Hart, DL - Said Billy Davis: "Taylor is as consistent as the day is long. Every technique you ask him to do, he does it. If you want him to face in the B gap, it's in the B gap. If you want him striking, he's striking. He's about as coachable as anyone we've had and consistent in all aspects. He's got a nice little pass rush and he's shown some stuff in the one-on-ones in the pass rush elements." Defensive line is tough to evaluate during practice, but it seems pretty clear that the Eagles like what they’ve seen.

Beau Allen, DL - He falls into the same category. With Bennie Logan nursing a hamstring injury, Allen appears to have surpassed Damion Square and has been taking first-team reps at nose tackle. The 333-pounder has flashed some pass-rush ability during one-on-ones at practice. If you’re looking for an under the radar rookie who could play a lot of snaps, Allen may fit the bill.

WHAT YOU MISSED

Friday's game provides a big opportunity for Matt Barkley, writes T-Mac.

Chip Kelly revealed his plan for Friday, including how much the starters will play.

Leftover thoughts on Brandon Boykin’s role, expectations for Zach Ertz and the two-gap 3-4.

Huff faces the steepest learning curve of all the rookie wide receivers.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

There was some buzz yesterday about the Eagles going back to the kelly green uniforms. Per Les Bowen of the Daily News, those would only be alternate unis. And even then, it might not happen:

Turns out, the Eagles might like for us to see it, but the league has put in a rule that says you have to wear the same helmet, regardless of what you do with the rest of the uniform. So right now, if the Eagles dressed in kelly green, they'd have to do so with midnight green helmets, which would look silly.

The rule has to do with concussion protection, making sure the fit is right and helmets are thoroughly vetted in practice and so on before they're worn in games. Of course, it would be possible to do this with any color helmet, but right now, that's the rule. So it would have to be changed for kelly green to happen, Eagles sources say.

Donovan McNabb will be calling some games for FOX this year. From the AP:

McNabb will rotate with former NFL and Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn and longtime linebacker Kirk Morrison as a color commentator alongside play-by-play announcer Dick Stockton.

COMING UP

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  • DirtyWaters

    I hope McNabb is puking by the fourth quarter. I know I will if I have to listen to his asinine comments for three hours.

    • Dominik

      The most important thing is this, though:

      Joe Buck and Troy Aikman remain the top team at FOX with the Kevin Burkhardt/John Lynch and Kenny Albert/Daryl Johnston/Tony Siragusa
      combos also staying intact for another season.

      Those are three good groups, with Burkhardt/Lynch being the best group there is out there, imho.

      Let’s hope McNabb won’t have any Eagles games, though, maybe because they fear that McNabb would be viewed as being biased towards us – which would be silly, of course. If Fox does some research, they will see that McNabb is not very popular here as a public speaker, despite his legacy.

      • PhillySean

        #### joe buck.

        • Dominik

          Yeah, he can be a little bit annoying and a little bit too unemotional for my taste. But at least he knows his stuff, mostly.

          Would it be better if Burkhardt/Lynch or Albert/Johnston/Siragusa would be the top team? Of course. But are Buck/Aikman far, far superior to Simms, this not knowing anything idiot, and the rest of the CBS gang? Imho, of course they are.

          Now, if this was a reference to this little Tarantino jewel, I’m sorry for even responding and not seing the greatness in your post:

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Up vote for anything Tarantino.

          • Dominik

            Upvote for appreciating Tarantinos genius. ;)

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            What’s your favorite QT flick?

          • Dominik

            Have to give it to Pulp Fiction, even though it’s a boring choice. It’s my #2 favorite movie of all time behind only A Clockwork Orange, so how can it not be my favorite Tarantino?

            #2 would be Django. Haven’t enjoyed a visit to the movies this much in a long time. And I don’t even like western. ;) Waltz and Di Caprio are so freaking great in this film.

            #3 Reservoir Dogs

            #4 Inglourious Basterds – don’t know which character is better, Schultz or Landa. Both are two of my all time favorite movie characters.

            #5 Kill Bill I

            #6 Kill Bill II

            #7 Jackie Brown

            #8 – Death Proof – the only Tarantino I’d rate way under 7/10. Don’t know what was wrong with him while writing and directing that one. Strange movie.

            Your take?

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I put up a comment, but it’s awaiting approval?

          • Dominik

            Thankfully, I can read it nonetheless. Probably because of your description of Pulp Fiction and RD. ;)

          • Dominik

            Since I can’t answer to your post because of the awaiting moderation thing, I’ll answer this post:

            The scene where DiCaprio cuts his hand (that was real and not scripted by the way, look it up) was incredible

            I didn’t know that. Crazy stuff:

            “Leo had slammed his hand on the table countless times and he moved his hand further and he crushed a crystal cordial glass,” Stacey Sher, a producer on the movie, told the trade publication. “Blood was dripping down his hand. He never broke character. He kept going. He was in such a zone. It was very intense. He required stitches.”

            http://necolebitchie.com/2013/01/leonardo-dicaprio-smeared-real-blood-on-kerry-washingtons-face-in-django/

            I have no idea why this guy never received an Oscar. Modern day character actor and one of the best at it.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Yea when I read about that bloody hand scene and then went back to watch it again I was completely amazed. My sentiments were exactly the same as yours; how has this guy not been given an oscar?! I’m not sure of another actor that could have pulled that off. Incredible. He actually pulls a piece of crystal out of his hand and just keeps going.

          • Dominik

            I think there are other actors, like Daniel Day Lewis for example (if you haven’t read about his work habits, go read it, it’s fascinating), who would have done the same or something similar. But those guys are recognized as the best actors out there. Di Caprio gets all the respect from fans, but not from the Academy.

          • JofreyRice

            Django is a great movie. Few people nail revenge fantasies as well as Tarantino.

          • Warhound KnowsHstryWarts&All

            I love QT but haven’t somehow haven’t seen Django. My wife has indicated a desire to see it – maybe this weekend…..
            Yeah, it seems cliché but Pulp Fiction is my favorite and is somewhere in my personal top 20 (probably top 10). He didn’t direct it, but True Romance is #2 for me and then Inglrs Bstrds.

          • Dominik

            If you can see a great movie while doing your wife a favor – just do it, mate. ;)

          • Jernst

            Buck isn’t just a bit unemotional…the dudes a human f’ing qualude!

            And, Siragusa is pretty useless…I remember this commentating gem from him a few years back, “hey guys, yea, um I’ve been eating a great sausage hoagie down here, really great stuff, and I ahhhhhhh saw a bunch of pigeons, yea tons of pigeons down here, let’s see how the teams come out in the second half. And, ah, let’s hope these pigeons don’t cause any problems. Real good sausage down here guys. Back to you.”

            Brilliant

          • Dominik

            “Buck isn’t just a bit unemotional…the dudes a human f’ing qualude!”

            God I love urban dict., I’d had no chance to know what exactly you’re talking about without it. ;)

            Now, I agree with you to an extend, but like I said, he at least knows about football. With Simms and Nantz, you get the worst out of both worlds: the quaalude of Joe Buck mixed with the incompetence of Phil Simms. How does that sound for you?

            And yes, I don’t always get Siragusa, but I like Johnston as an analyst.

          • Warhound KnowsHstryWarts&All

            With you on Johnston. Siragusa is supposed to be a funny “regular guy” but is just a waste of time.

          • Jernst

            Yea… Bucks boring but he’s the least of my concerns as far as announcers go. He is at least knowledgable as you said. Johnston is definitely a good one. But, overall the past few years there’s just been a complete lack of genuine talent in the commentator box. Terrible time period for sports commentators.

      • evanphilly

        I like the Buck/Aikman combo. Aikman may be the only former Cowboy turned commentator/analyst/etc..that has no bias against the Eagles, which is pleasant.

        Never been too high on Siragusa, don’t see what the appeal of him is.

        McNabb could be OK. I know he has a tendency to put foot in mouth, but this stuff he seems like a natural fit for. I hope he gets a few Eagles games this year.

        • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

          Feel like the kept Siragusa for the NY market. Seems like that’d be his largest appeal.

          • Amar, CB who bought in

            No matter where Siragusa goes, he will have a large appeal.

      • dnabrice

        That’s a pity. He did a lot for the Eagles.

        • Dominik

          He did. But that doesn’t stop him from talking some bs he opens his mouth regarding the Eagles all the time. Don’t know why he has to do that, but he does.

  • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

    Concussion protection, riiiiight. I’m 100% sure it has nothing to do with branding…

  • GW.Fisher

    Just read an article at philly.com written by Inquirer staff writer Tim McManus. What gives?

    • Anthony Afterwit

      must be a different McManus. it was on the Phillies too.

  • knighn

    WIP had a funny concept this morning. They were trying to think of a worse commentator-announcer combination than Donovan McNabb and Dick Stockton.
    Call me wrong, but all I could come up with was Andy Reid and Marlee Matlin.

  • knighn

    WIP had a funny concept this morning. They were trying to think of a worse commentator-announcer combination than Donovan McNabb and D. Stockton. (can’t say his full name or you’ll go into “waiting to be approved” zone)
    Call me wrong, but all I could come up with was Andy Reid and Marlee Matlin.

    • John E. Zang

      Haha Andy Reid and John Madden. Andy and Sumerall would’ve been some awkward stuff. Can you imagine all the weird silence and Sumerall’s drunken flashbacks? But I can’t believe people want more of Mcnabb. All I can think of is that their waiting for him to spout controversial garbage for ratings.

      • John E. Zang

        *they’re (for the grammar police)

    • Dominik

      (can’t say his full name or you’ll go into “waiting to be approved” zone)

      Lol

      • knighn

        I wish I was joking! My original comment still hasn’t been approved! The only difference was that I used Stockton’s full first name and I didn’t need the comment in parentheses.

  • TNA

    Ertz said that he worked a lot on run-blocking this off-season and that there’s not too much of a drop-off between him and Celek. I beg to differ — Celek is built like a lighter OL and Ertz is built like a big WR. That said, I’m looking forward to Ertz dominating.

    One of the biggest improvements I’ve seen (heard) this year is Coop not referring to himself in the third-person anymore. That was very annoying last year. Sounds like he’s matured a lot.

    There’s been a lot of coverage of Davis’ comments about keeping the base package on the field — with a lot of different interpretations as to what exactly that means. As with all things with this coaching staff, I think it’s always going to be a relatively fluid situation.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      if i was Cooper, i’d distance myself from myself too, after spouting racist comments…then having to trek around Philly. 3rd person, i’d have gone 5th or 6th to really confuse people, maybe multiple personality person, introducing Football Cooper, Concert Cooper, normal life Cooper. sure be looking over my shoulder, guess he’s safe for now, still playing. doubt 40 yr old Coop will be coming back around for fan appreciation days.

    • Corey Dawson

      They’re listed as the same position, but really in this offense there seems to be two different tight end positions. There’s the one that fits Casey, the classic tight end that can double as a smaller lineman or fullback, and the one that fits Ertz, the tight end that can double as a bigger, slightly slower wide out.

      Celek to me seems to be a jack of all trades and can pretty much fill both roles, just not as purely as the other two, which screams versatility to me and is probably why Chip likes him so much. It lets him keep 3 tight ends instead of 4 (a starter and backup for each spot) and mix and match them based on what he’s trying to do in a given game.

  • Token

    I almost forgot Smith was on the team. Dont recall ever hearing less about a 1st rounder during camp. I guess their hope is that this guy can be Connor Barwins replacement in a few years? Or do they really think 2 Barwins on the field together is a good idea?

    • Tom w

      Yes they have said it several times. He replaces cole next yr. not hard to figure out. And they talk about smith looking good almost everyday.

      Looks like Howie destroyed another draft all the way down to the fifth and seventh rounder. Jesus.

      • Token

        You seem like the type who wears Eagles jerseys to work everyday. I dont know how you could say he destroyed this draft, let alone last years and the year before etc…

        • A Roy

          And you seem the type to piss on people’s birthday cakes.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Now A Roy, Token is just a realist among us Kool-Aid chugging Kelly nut-swingers. He’s truly sorry that we can’t see through anything other than rose colored lenses and he’ll make sure you know that being honest about your $h!tty team doesn’t mean you’re not a real fan.

        • Dominik

          Foles in the 3rd, Boykin in the 4th, + Ertz, Cox, Kendricks and Lane Johnson. He swapped basically a 7th round pick 2012 into at least a 4th rounder next year or in 2016. Jury is still out on Wolff, but for a 5th rounder, he showed promise so far.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            yeah, but how many superbowls has Kruger led us to?

        • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

          Boykin, Cox, Kendricks, Foles, Logan, Lane, and Ertz are all starters so that’s about half of his picks over a two year haul (I won’t include anyone from this year’s class yet). Then you throw in depth players that are still on the roster like Dennis Kelly, Chris Polk, and Earl Wolff (potential to start). I’d say he’s had two pretty solid drafts and by all accounts we have a few players in this year’s to be excited about.

        • Adam G

          Let’s play a little game. If the 2012 Draft was redrafted where would Foles, Cox, Boykin, and Kendricks be drafted?

          • Token

            Foles higher of course, well I think. We really arent 100% sure what he is yet.

            Cox was a high pick regardless. Why do people act like Howie found some diamond in the rough there?

            Why do you guys keep bringing up Kendricks? The guy has been a bust up to this point.

          • confused eagles fan

            Wth? Down vote!!

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Foles between 5-18, Cox in the top 20, Boykin between 28-40, and Kendricks top 40 or so.

          • Adam G

            This proves my point. If you pick guys that would’ve gone higher in a redraft, then you’ve done a good job. 2013 is less clear, so we’ll see. Kendricks is mentioned because for a mid 2nd round pick he’s performed well, but not great. And no way Foles lasts to the teens considering how QB hungry teams will reach for guys.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I was trying to prove your point haha. Yea I just push the number for Foles into the high teens so I wasn’t a complete homer, but you’re probably right. He wouldn’t have lasted passed 10. It would’ve gone Luck, Wilson, Foles, RGIII had people known then what they know now.

          • aub32

            I still think it’s too early for this question on all but Boykin. Kendricks honestly looks like a 3rd rounder. Cox is being held back by the system. So who knows how good he could have been in a 4-3. Foles had one good year, and it wasn’t even the entire year. He could flame out. He could be great.

    • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

      With Pope Jordan the 81st getting all the publicity it does seem like he’s been an afterthought, but I don’t necessarily think that’s a referendum on his performance so far. He’s gotten a few good nods from the media and coaches. I’m happy he’s not in the spotlight right now to be honest. Let the dude sit back and learn. His measurables are fantastic and if we can maximize that then we’ll have at least an above average player on our hands. Not every first round pick has to be an all-pro.

      • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

        Every pick has to be All-Pro to Token. Did you forget who you’re talking to?

        • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

          Yea, not sure what I was thinking. In fact, Foles sucks because he hasn’t made a pro-bo…. wait, because he hasn’t been an All-Pro yet and couldn’t throw for more than 3,500 yards in a full sea… wait he only played about 10 games… whatever, kelly and howie suck!

        • Token

          well, no. But Id like one or two to be. Thats how you end up with a winning football team. Talent.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            The three All-Pros on the roster aren’t enough for you? Moreover, do you need the picks to be All-Pros in years 1, 2, or 3? Can we at least have rational expectations?

          • Token

            What all pros do they have that have been drafted in the last 3 or 4 years? Any? Do you think its uncommon for 1-3 year players to be all pros? Its not.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            If the birds go 11-5 and Foles has a passer rating around 105 (both are easily possible) then guess what; you have an all-pro QB.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            None, and while all-pros have happened in years 1-3, it’s not exactly common. God, damn Marcus Smith II for not being an All-Pro in the preseason!

            I bet Andrew Luck is a bust in your opinion because he hasn’t been an All-Pro yet and he was the #1 overall pick.

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            No, that standard only applies to Eagle players. Guys on other teams are great.

          • Adam G

            So your measuring stick is all pro for the last 3 years? That’s a little high don’t you think?

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            Token requires that every player drafted become the GOAT at his respective position and be a career-long All-Pro. It’s reasonable…

          • jpate

            Or they are a bust….

          • Adam G

            Feel bad for the women in his life…

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            You’re assuming there are women in his life. You, sir, are a bolder man than me.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            Guess how many First Team All-Pros the Seahawks had last season when they won the championship? Just guess. Nevermind, I’ll tell you. It was 2. Sherman and ET3. Their first round picks from the last 2 or 3 years weren’t All-Pro. It must be unfathomable to you, a sham even, that they were able to win without a 1st rounder from the last 3 drafts being All Pro.

            NOTE: Kam Chancellor was a second team All-Pro. As was Eddie Lacy, the lone rookie to make it in what many believe a snub to Forte who had a better season.

          • aub32

            That’s a bit unfair dude. You can’t blame the new regime for the drafting mistakes of the past. I get some of the hype around this team goes overboard, but you are doing the same thing in the opposite direction.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            27:2, 7 TD’s, 119.2, Pro-Bowl MVP, 8-2 as starter… hmmm that doesn’t look like an All-Pro in the making to you? If we only get one, I’ll be damned happy that it’s the QB.

          • Token

            Im a Foles fan. But nobody knows what he is yet. We can act like we know but until this year plays out we really have no idea.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            It’s his second year as a starter! What QB was EVER an all-pro in their first year as a starter? The point is that his performance so far suggests that he has the ability to reach that level which is what you’re saying we don’t have on our roster.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            Maybe Marino. Not sure about that though.

    • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

      I think that’s exactly what they want – two Barwins. Certainly versatile and athletic, the things upon which they place the highest premium. Our problem is that pre-draft, we had a myopic fixation on solving the pass rush issue. The 3rd round project OLB we took at #26 doesn’t do that.

    • aub32

      What are we supposed to be hearing? It’s camp. So he’s not allowed to hit the QB. We’ve heard he’s done well in coverage. We will have to see how in does in the games to know where he actually is at this point. This time of year most of the hype is going to surround the skill players (RB/WR/CB/TE). I think you may be expecting too much too early. “And today 1st round pick Smith II really takes it to a tackling dummy. Boy did he put one hell of a rip move on that trashcan.”

      • Token

        I could not possibly care less how good my OLB is doing in coverage. Not in a 3-4. Its a awesome bonus if hes competent at it, but the guy we need should be only dropping like 10% of snaps. We need a rusher that teams have to worry about. The fact that they didnt start Smith out learning to be a situational rusher is worrisome.

        Isnt Barwin supposed to fill the role of super awesome backpedaling guy?

        • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

          “I could not possibly care less how good my OLB is doing in coverage.”

          After reading this I could not possibly put any less stock into anything you say. Not only do you not seem to understand the 3-4, but you are also clearly missing one of most important pillars in our DC’s scheme.

          • Token

            Go look at the top pass rushing 3-4 OLBs in the NFL. Then look at what % of snaps they drop into coverage. You might be surprised.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Well now your goal post is moving. “OLB” in general and “top pass rushing OLB” do not carry the same connotation at all. One is generic and the other speaks to specific players; the best players in the league at one function actually. Further, you’re still missing my second point. I guess I’ll just outright explain it to you. Billy Davis does not want a “pass rushing OLB” and (presumably) a “coverage OLB”. We had that last year, even though Cole wasn’t a force. It makes us predictable. He wants two OLB’s that can do both so he doesn’t telegraph his hand. This is similar to how Chip wants a “mirror” offense as well. If the other team knows we have one WR who does most of the blocking on running downs or one OLB who will always rush on a passing down then how effective can we be at disguising our intentions? Sure, maybe if you have Demarcus Ware or Clay Matthews then it doesn’t matter if the offense knows “that’s the rush guy” because they’ll win anyway. Well those guys are generational talents and one is probably going to the hall of fame.

            As an aside, why don’t you work for an NFL front office or coaching staff? You seem to know everything. I’ll bet if I pull up your archived comments from last pre-season / TC / OTA’s that you were spot on!

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ Kelce’s Beard

            Nah he predicted 0-16

          • Warhound KnowsHstryWarts&All

            To be fair, maybe he understands how the defensive scheme is supposed to work but just has no faith in it. Personally, I’m very interested in seeing it play out. Can Davis get the players he needs? If so, will the deception work the way he expects?

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ Kelce’s Beard

          Ignorance must be bliss. Since clearly Davis disagrees with you

  • TheAnswer333

    What about Ed Reynolds??

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      ha, missed that too. dumbest NCAA rule that these guys miss OTAs due to tri-mester graduations. safe to say he can be inked in as 5th safety deactivated gameday.

  • eaglespur

    remember when young Mr Huff first arrived he was saying that if the veterans have trouble with Chip’s offensive concepts, he would be able to help them learn? uh-oh… looks like reality bit him in the a__

    • OddBall

      Doesn’t matter. Even if he sucks, he’s a Duck … and we will be stuck with him.

  • OMGitsWes

    Mannnnn I was hoping for a Murderleg update :(

    • Anonymous

      HODOR

      Yeah me too :)

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      2-5 yesterday and has at least 1 horrible shank a day. it’s not even a competition. better nickname than player. true competition will be week between cuts and game, be much better street talent then.
      .
      but, Henery is getting another yr.

    • RIP illa

      Here you go…he’s horrible and is providing no real competition for Henery. A gassed up and over hyped kicker that made his name (literally) off of 1 play.

      • anon

        To be fair we gassed him up and overhyped him. I don’t know if he’s ever given an interview.

        • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

          that tends to happen in this city

          • Andy Six Score and Four

            I’ve never seen it happen.

        • RIP illa

          True

      • UKEagle99 à l’orange

        The one play I saw he layed a lick but also looked like he had his bell rung. I still think Suicideleg is more appropriate.

  • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

    I must admit that I’m kind of hyped about Beau Allen. One of the things I really wanted this off-season was more of a true nose tackle. Obviously that needs to be seen in the game, but maybe we got one? I mean I like Logan and think he holds his own, but anyone who thinks we couldn’t upgrade is lying to themselves.

    The guy looks like a damn Viking. I’d love to see him take the spot from Logan and just maul lineman all day while slamming mugs of Lane’s smoothies on the sideline screaming, “ANOTHER!”.

    • Dominik

      The beautiful thing is: we wouldn’t have wasted anything if Allen turns out to be a good nose. Logan is versatile, he can play DE in the 34. Now we’d have four good players for three D-Line positions. + Hart + Curry as situational pass rusher. Would get me really excited, to be honest. And think about the resources we invested in the position: Thornton UDFA, Allen 7th round, Hart 5th round, Logan 3rd round. Only real investments are Cox and Curry (who was drafted for another scheme, to be fair, of course he’s not worth a 2nd round pick as nickel pass rusher, but that doesn’t mean he has no value).

      • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

        As Meatloaf would say; you took the words right out of my mouth.

    • Corey Dawson

      Yeah, I’ve been rooting for House Squatter since he was drafted. I was pretty confident he’d overtake Square for the #2 job and it seems he’s almost there if he isn’t already (the depth chart this week had him as #3 still). The staff seems pretty high on Logan though, so it might be much harder for him to overtake the #1 spot.

    • MagatBrackendale

      Have you ever considered writing for the movies/ Or video games? ;~)

      • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

        Gee, thanks Maggie.

  • birdsfanindc

    Is there anyone under 30 that prefers the kelly green over the current uniform?

    I’m gonna put myself on the spot and say I not only prefer the midnight green, but I find the kelly green ugly.

    Sacrilege? Or are the kelly green fanatics just nostalgic?

    • John E. Zang

      I used to like the unis they have now but it kind of looks kiddish and that midnight color is getting hard to look at. Those classic Kelly green unis represent the franchise so much classier I think. The font on the numbers of the current ones is outdated and looks silly. Look at a team like the 49ers they made the switch and it looks so much better. I just think that movement into the wild looking uniforms is long over and it was a good change but it’s time to go back to classic especially with a new era of eagles football.

    • Corey Dawson

      I prefer the color over the midnight green (I’m 28). I don’t however like the style of the old uniform for anything other than a once a year throwback alternate as far as the players wearing it in game.

      If we were to go back to kelly green as the default jersey, which I know is not the case here as they’re just trying to get it as the alternate, the style would need updating. I think it could really work, and I think the black alternates to it with kelly green streaks in it somehow would look pretty badass.

      • John E. Zang

        Bottom line is the current unis are past their prime. It was a brief change in the general look of uniforms in the league to grab people’s attention but now it’s time to scale it back. I won’t buy any merchandise because I think it’s kind of cartoonish looking and too overbearing of a design. When I purchase merch it’s usually throwback eagles stuff becaus it’s so much cleaner and simple.

        • John E. Zang

          Basically it looks like some mega-marketing giant designed their current unis. Think McDonald’s and to me it looks corny.

          • MagatBrackendale

            The change was done for 2 reasons. Kelly green jerseys were not selling and dark colors show more strength. Check out many other teams in the last 20 years.

      • piatz1019

        I agree with the style of the new uniforms is better, but I think even that should be changed. I would love a modern style with the Kelly Green and black alternates. I’m only 22 and I have always liked the midnight green more than the classics, but now it just reminds me of McNabb and Reid. They were a great peice of our history, but this is a COMPLETELYU different team, mentailty, and approach. I think a change would cement that even further

      • dnabrice

        I don’t want to look like the Jets.

    • Token

      Kelly Green is hideous. Its just nostalgic for people. Never understood it. People want to remember the long history of failure I guess.

      • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

        Is that worse than a recent history of close but not quite?

        Allow me to pose a different question: Is it not safe to say that the franchise from the 1961 season – present has been a failure given the lack of NFL Championships/Super Bowls in our trophy case from this time frame? Given that the obvious answer is yes, does it even matter what color the jersey is? No, it doesn’t. Just say you don’t like the color and leave it there. Our franchise has failed at winning the big game for 52 years. Here’s to hoping we change that this year, regardless of uniform color.

    • wydok

      I’m 38 and I don’t really care either way. I hate the 2010 throwbacks, though. Those were too neon.

    • Mooray

      I’m 21 and I love kelly green! Definitely prefer it to midnight green. The current jerseys aren’t bad, but midnight green is just awesome.

    • Chipadelphia22

      29, and Why not have both?

    • OverreacSean Jackson, #culture

      I posted the following link yesterday. I started following the Iggs in the 2000s; so all I know is midnight green. And the hideous yellow and blue 40’s uniforms or whatever. Those still haunt my dreams. Anywho, I’d be up for a change to kelly green if it were done something like this:

      http://www.jessealkire.com/nfl/#/eagles/

      Also, am I really the only one that wants to type “chip kelly green” every time?

      • reb

        That’s a really interesting design. It looks *way* too much like the Oregon Ducks uniforms, though, for comfort. And I actually like the black in the uniforms. oh well, vive la diference!

    • Amar, CB who bought in

      Wholeheartedly agree and I am a couple of years over 30. Okay, maybe a little more than couple :)

    • MagatBrackendale

      I’m well over 30 but like the dark color much better, Over the past 20 years many teams have changed their uniforms to show a larger area of darker color because darker colors are stronger than wishy-washy tones.

    • PaoliBulldog

      I’m way over thirty, young buck, and I much prefer the midnight green unis with the “new” Eagle logo.

      When I was a kid I thought the wings on the front of the helmet were pretty cool. But now they just look outdated.

  • John E. Zang

    I think the only people that still like the current uniforms are younger kids and white trash. I can’t help but picture some slobbish portly kid walking out of Wal-Mart with mustard stains all over his shiny midnight green Vick or Desean jersey with the numbers coming off complete with the hat with sweat ring around it and what looks like motor oil all over the brim like he found it roadside. This is just my theory though.

    • Andy

      Easy there!

    • MagatBrackendale

      Oh please.

  • Andy

    I’m not as down on Bennie Logan as some, but I expect our defense to improve this year based on the existing personnel on the D-line becoming more familiar with the 3-4 2-gap techniques and also more appropriate personnel migrating onto the roster. Graham and Curry have tons of talent but this particular defense will run better with more Taylor Hearts and Beau Allens on the line. Now we just need to swindle Andy Reid out of a 2nd round pick for Graham and/or Curry (not going to happen).

    • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

      Maybe Andy is so full of himself that he will give us a first round pick for Curry. His thought process will be that he spent a second rounder on him, but it was such a steal because the guy has obvious first round talent so he will show the whole league his genius by trading a first rounder for him and letting him prove it’s not a waste!

      • Andy

        No you’re talking!

      • Amar, CB who bought in

        You know he did offer a 3rd for Foles before pursuing Alex Smith.

  • Chipadelphia22

    Hasn’t Jordan been working outside recently? Due to injuries

  • 76mustang

    Chip just needs to pick up the phone and call Phil Knight – “Phil, we need new unis and the players got together and want you to create a new color and name it Chip Kelly Green, ha, like I really care. How soon can your designers have their concepts to us?”

  • duvyp

    Kelly green again? Terrible idea. Good for a mediocre team like the Jets, but not for the Eagles. The present Eagle green is a strong color; Kelly green only if Chip is buying the team!!

    • Jerry Pomroy

      The Jets use a different tone of green (winter green?). Closer to the Packers (forest green?). Isn’t it so odd to be arguing tones of green?

      I personally think with the right design, you could keep the midnight green and incorporate a brighter green as an accent color.

  • SoCalEaglesFan

    Has Ed Reynolds been so invisible he’s not even worth a mention?

  • SoCalEaglesFan

    re: new uniforms. It should be pointed out that the current Eagles uniform is the longest running in franchise history. They’ve been the same with barely minor tweaks for 18 seasons. I prefer the darker green shade but I think a totally new design concept is overdue. While not preferring the old shade of green, I do prefer the old white helmets they wore for a few seasons in the early 70’s. Wouldn’t mind seeing some new version of a white helmet, which could then still be used whether wearing midnight, or kelly green throwbacks.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I am so ready for a change. I don’t mind the midnight green, but let’s see something bold and modern and new without being gaudy.