What They’re Saying About the Eagles

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Photo by: Jeff Fusco.

Here’s this week’s roundup of national media coverage.

Bovada released their over/under for the Eagles’ win total this season:

Ross Jones of FOXSports.com explains why he thinks the Eagles will go 11-5:

If the surprising offseason release of wide receiver DeSean Jackson doesn't come back to haunt coach Chip Kelly, Philadelphia is in prime position to become the first team to defend the NFC East title since the 2004 Eagles. Replacing the offensive threat that Jackson provided won't be easy. But the Eagles have a multitude of other receiving targets, the NFL's reigning rushing leader in LeSean McCoy and a rock-solid line even with right tackle Lane Johnson suspended the first four games. The defense also has more depth and a better grasp of coordinator Billy Davis' 3-4 system.

Scott Kacsmar of ESPN Insider ranks the Eagles 13th in the league in under-25 talent:

There's no obvious All-Pro player under 25 for the Eagles, but there's an impressive quantity of players. Right tackle Lane Johnson was Chip Kelly's first draft pick (No. 4 overall, 2013). He improved as the year went on, but he [will]  start 2014 suspended, which we considered in our rankings. RB Chris Polk flashed some big-play potential last season and may thrive as LeSean McCoy's backup. Rookie WR Jordan Matthews seems like a natural fit for the offense, and rookie Josh Huff played wideout for Kelly at Oregon. Tight end Zach Ertz may be ready for a big jump in his second season, while Brandon Boykin is a really talented slot corner with six interceptions already.

Fletcher Cox is the integral part of the defensive line, as is nose tackle Bennie Logan, just entering just his second season. Mychal Kendricks is a solid interior linebacker, and rookie Marcus Smith may get some reps on passing downs this season.

Sal Paolantonio and Phil Sheridan of ESPN.com discuss Nick Foles' progression and how much he gets sacked:

It will be interesting to see how Nick Foles holds up under the scrutiny and pressure of playing all 16 games and also what it does to his production when he has many more pass attempts this season than he did last. I think clearly in talking to the coaches, Phil, they want him to trust what he sees, get rid of the ball quickly, cut down on the number of sacks — he was sacked once every 11 pass attempts this [past] year. If he throws the ball 500 times, that could be 46, 47 sacks; way too many.

There's no DeSean Jackson hangover, Greg Bedard of TheMMQB.com observes:

Jackson is now in Washington but with Jordan Matthews — a second round pick, Brad Smith — the former Jets' and Bills' wide receiver getting the nod at the slight right now, Darren Sproles from the Saints, Zach Ertz is healthy again, you didn't notice anything about DeSean Jackson not being here and that bodes well for the Eagles this season.

Dave Richard of CBSSports.com thinks you should draft Foles and not Tony Romo in fantasy:

Foles is going to be a wild card on Draft Day: Someone might take him as soon as Round 6, or he could fall to Round 10. Romo isn't quite in the same boat as most Fantasy owners recognize his ability but still wait for him as a bargain pick. What's appealing about Foles is that his offense should remain challenging for defenses to figure out and he did exceptionally well running it last season. Both quarterbacks carry 250-yard, two-touchdown potential every week but Romo has a bit more of an injury risk to him and might not deliver as many monster games as Foles, who is worth taking a round or two ahead of Romo.

However, colleague Jamey Eisenberg lists Foles as a potential bust:

The Eagles did a nice job in adding talent around Foles this offseason, even with getting rid of Jackson. They brought back Cooper and Jeremy Maclin, traded for Darren Sproles and drafted Jordan Matthews. Zach Ertz will see a bigger role, and LeSean McCoy is still a stud catching passes out of the backfield. But losing Jackson will hurt since Foles targeted him more than any other receiver (70 times), and he completed 71.4 percent of those passes to Jackson. I'm also expecting Foles to regress statistically since he had just two interceptions on the season, and 10 of his 27 touchdowns (37 percent of his production) and 834 of his 2,891 passing yards (29 percent) came against two of the three worst pass defenses in 2013 with Oakland and Minnesota. He does benefit with two games against Dallas' defense this year, but that first meeting with the Cowboys isn't until Week 13. Before then he gets four games against elite defenses in San Francisco, St. Louis, Arizona and Carolina and then Seattle in Week 14. It won't be easy for Foles, and opposing defenses should have a better understanding of Chip Kelly's offense. I'll take Foles as a low-end starter, but I'm not drafting him prior to Round 8.

Richard also says Zach Ertz is a breakout fantasy candidate:

In April, Ertz admitted in a roundabout way that coaches felt they had to take him off the field in certain situations. His goal this offseason was to be in a place where coaches would be confident in him no matter what they wanted to do. So far it sounds like he's accomplished his mission as a number of reports suggest he looks like he's headed toward breakout status. What we noticed is that Eagles coach Chip Kelly is getting into using his tight ends more at the pro level. Last season, 22.9 percent of the Eagles' completions went to tight ends. That percentage is the second-highest for tight ends in Kelly's system since 2006. The rub is that the Eagles have another good tight end in Brent Celek, but he's more of an old-school tight end, whereas Ertz has some "Gronk" potential to him. He's 6-foot-5, 250 pounds and has plenty of athleticism. Final point: He finished last season with 18 grabs for 217 yards and four scores over six games (playoff loss included). If we play the extrapolation game with those numbers over 16 games, he'd have 48 receptions for 579 yards and 10 touchdowns, easily Top 10 numbers for a tight end. For a guy with so much potential you'll be able to get 9 or 10 rounds after Jimmy Graham, you'd be nuts not to consider him.

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  • kleptolia

    You should draft Foles instead of Romo? Wow. I hope Dave Richard (middle name Brian?) didn’t sprain anything coming up with that.
    In a related story: drink milk instead of battery acid. You’ll be glad you did.

    • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

      As much as we all hate Romo around here, the dude is a very good QB and usually finishes top 10 in fantasy scoring among QBs. Outright placing Foles ahead of Romo in terms of fantasy value is probably a little bold at this juncture, at least to people who aren’t Eagles fans.

      • Johnny Domino

        Good fantasy player he may be, but a Cowboy championship with Romo at the helm is likely also strictly a fantasy.

        • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

          It is a fantasy indeed.

      • kleptolia

        You’re right, but I’m taking into account Romo going through back surgery, playing behind a solid, but unspectacular, o-line in a division that should have 3 good pass rushing defenses this year.
        Add to that an offensive system that is not very effecient (I watch Oregon and Chip Kelly football) and factor in Romo’s age and I just don’t see him producing as much as he has in the past. In fact I’m worried about his health going forward.

        • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

          It’s a justifiable concern, no doubt. However, let’s not overrate the pass D in our division, nor underrate their line. That’s one area where they’re actually solid. Neither us, NY, or WAS boast spectacular pass rushing defenses, though. There may be an individual player on each team, but as a whole, I can’t say that would affect my decision. And let’s say they are good, it’s not like we don’t face two of those Ds.. I’d be more concerned about the NFC West teams, but we play them, too. So in the Romo v Foles fantasy debate, as long as the reports coming out of Dallas are that he’s healthy and a full go, hard to place Foles over Romo this year. Just my opinion.

          • kleptolia

            You’re a reasonable guy. I do think you are underrating the Eagles’ defense. I think this year it will be better than most people think. Right now, I think Nolan Caroll will compete for playing time. He has the size and reach to be a real problem for opposition passing schemes. I’m not as high on Boykin as most people are. I think he’s good, but I don’t think he’s a world-ender. However, he’s good enough to hold down the slot and, I think, the outside.
            Your safeties are also going to be much improved.
            It comes down to whether or not Billy Davis can run the scheme he wants to. Believe me, when the talent is there to run a mirrored 3-4, it is a menacing thing. If Smith or anybody else comes out strong enough to let Davis mix and match, you guys are going to be almost as excited about your defense as you are about your offense.
            You might notice I say “you” a lot. I don’t really identify with any one particular team, I just follow the team that interests me most at any given time. I live in Oregon. There are no pro football teams so I feel at liberty to choose.
            Right now, I’m watching the Oregon Ducks and Philadelphia Eagles, in the interests of full disclosure.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            On paper, sure, the Eagles D looks improved. Still need to see it. 25th rank pass D in DVOA, so there’s certainly room for improvement. Nolan Carroll needs to get on the field, agreed, but he also needs to replace the correct CB, and if the writers have their way, they’d replace the wrong CB with Carroll. Not sure why, but they want to replace Fletcher, not Williams. Boykin is a stud, but we can agree to disagree there. Safety is only improved by virtue of not having Chung. Jenkins does all the right things off the field, but his play to date doesn’t equal the hype at all. As for Smith, he needs to find his way to field first before we get too excited about the mirrored 3-4. It’s definitely devastating, but, we’re a long way from that coming to fruition, and it may not really happen this season.

      • anon

        Only problem with Romo is that he’s he’s going to fall apart in fantasy playoffs.

        • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

          Who’s going to win the SB this year?

          • anon

            Fantasy? Me. All 3 leagues.

            Real football, impossible to tell this early. Eagles, Hawks, Broncos.

    • 370HSSV 0773H

      If Romo can stay healthy he’ll put up big fantasy numbers. Their defense is so bad, they’ll be throwing the ball a lot. BUT, Romo won’t make it through the season with his bad back.

    • KobraKai7474

      Fantasy football is as much about risk management as it is about picking the best talent. Having the best team on draft day is meaningless if most of your roster is hurt by Halloween. Yes, all things being equal, Tony Romo is a better fantasy QB than Nick Foles right now. However, all things are NOT equal. Tony Romo is in his mid-30s and coming off his second back surgery. Is there a chance that he will stay healthy and put up monster numbers while playing in 16 straight shoot outs thanks to the Cowboys horrific defense? Sure. But there is also a chance he will be playing in pain all year…. Or not playing at all due to his back or any number of other injuries that become increasingly common as a player ages. As such a very reasonable argument can be made that Foles represents much better value as a fantasy football player. He’s younger (and doesn’t have a bad back) and he plays in an offense that will give him many, MANY opportunities to put up big numbers. You can win a fantasy football league with that. It is much harder to win if you build your team around a QB who gets hurt in Week 2.

  • myeaglescantwin

    I’d rather Foles takes a 3yd sack than force a pass that leads to an int.
    completely fine with his decision making.

    • Amar, CB who bought in

      He can come back from multiple INTs, the question is his health. How long can he perform at a high level with a high number of sacks ? Look whats become of Jaws..

      • myeaglescantwin

        Jaws was getting absolutely destroyed by the Likes of Bruce Smith and LT.. he also wasn’t 6’6 245. Foles gets dragged down while stepping forward, more than he is getting popped solidly..
        but that definitely is an issue with a potential franchise QB

    • aub32

      Not when those sacks take us out of FG range. He doesn’t have to force passes. He can throw the ball away.

      • Clamdigger

        48 yards is outside of FG range?

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          yeah, if henery

        • anon

          haha you must have missed last season.

          • Clamdigger

            I just think “outside of FG range” needed to be qualified on account of Limplegs McGee.

      • myeaglescantwin

        true
        I’m fine with that too.

  • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

    Just read the whole Ross Jones – Fox Sports article. Pretty good stuff.

  • Sean

    46-47 sacks? I am fine w/ that as long as they aren’t turnovers.

    Russ Wilson was sacked 44 times last year, and SEA still led the league in TO differential w PHI close behind. PHI and SEA actually had the same number of giveaways, but SEA was obviously much more opportunistic on defense.

    • aub32

      Can Foles hold up to that type of punishment though? Taking 46-47 sacks isn’t going to help him stay on the field, which was one of the biggest problems with our last QB.

      • Sean

        I don’t doubt it. His toughness is very under-appreciated. Also, he’s much bigger than Vick and Wilson.

        • Bullwinkle

          But conventional wisdom is that Vick, Wilson, Newton, and Kaepernick are better athletes, because they can run faster. That’s why they are excellent QBs and Foles is a game managing system QB who is lucky. (Sarcasm.)

          • anon

            Dude get off it. Newton came in and tossed for 4k his rookie year and accounted for almost 40 tds, Kaps been to a SB, Wilson has won one and all of them have a longer track record than Foles.

            Philly fans ready to call Foles Tom Brady after one season while pretending other QBs aren’t good, i just don’t get it.

            Foles had a crazy season, people are right to be skeptical, let him prove them wrong. All these other guys have showed and proved by winning big games.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            Top defenses. All three. :)

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            What was Newton’s Win-Loss record that year?

            What were the Niner’s team rankings in terms of defense, rushing, and passing that year?

            What about Seattle’s for the same statistics?

            2011 Carolina Panthers: 6-10, no playoffs

            2012 San Fran 49ers: Team Passing – 23rd, Team Rushing – 4th, Team Defense – 2nd

            2013 Seattle Seahawks: Team Passing – 26th, Team Rushing – 4th, Team Defense – 1st

            The above clearly shows that while putting up big stats, Newton didn’t win games. That may have had something to do with his nearly 1:1 TD / Int Ratio and five fumbles.

            Looking at the Niners and Seahawks are basically the same exact thing; ridiculous defense with consistent rushing and less than noteworthy passing. Wilson is not a SB winner without the legion of boom or Marshawn. Kaep doesn’t get there without P Willis, Smith Bros, Gore, etc…

            The point is that in a vacuum saying, “Cam threw for this many yards, Russell won a Bowl, and Kaep has been there” certainly sounds good, but in reality Cam played from behind a lot, Russell and Kaep are lucky to have amazing defenses and coaches smart enough not to put it on their shoulders.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            And I’m gonna reply to my own post because I thought it was worth mentioning that Foles threw for 27 TD’s on 317 attempts last year (8.5%) while Cam threw for 21 on 517 attempts (4.1%) in his rookie year. His YPA was no where near Foles’ (and has actually regressed), his TD:INT is no where near Foles’, on and on and on.

          • aub32

            Foles also wasn’t a rookie. CK is a much better offensive mind than Rivera. Foles had a better O line and weapons than Newton has ever played with.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I only used Cam’s rookie stats because that’s what anon brought up. Even if I used last year’s stats he get’s blown away by Foles. It’s actually worse. Depending on the specific stat he’s either slightly improved, remained steady, or regressed as a passer after three seasons. In other words; he’s close to showing us his ceiling at this point.

          • aub32

            I disagree. The guy is handcuffed by his personnel. The previous regime spent so much money on Williams, Stewart, and Tolbert that they have nothing left for WRs. Steve Smith was not a top WR last year. Marvin McNutt is their #3 option right now. What if we switched Cam and Foles and left everything else the same. I doubt Foles would look anything near what he did this year. Cam on the other hand would likely have his best season. Would his numbers be better than 2013 Foles? I highly doubt it. Those numbers will be difficult for any QB to duplicate. However, coaching and surrounding talent plays a huge part in this game.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Foles may lose the YAC that Eagles’ play makers gave him, but I have not doubt that in any offense he’d throw less picks and more TD’s than Newton. Newton would be different in Chip’s offense and problematic in ways Foles can’t be, but his efficiency would not match Foles’ regardless.

          • aub32

            Foles would throw more picks in CAR because he would have to take more chances. The WRs in CAR would not get near the space Foles had in 2013. I am not saying he’d be horrid, but you would see a steep decline in his numbers. Cam on the other hand would appear to be a much better passer than in years past. My point is that you can’t just look at these guys in a vacuum.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Foles in Carolina would be worse than Foles in Philly; yes. Cam in Philly would be better than Cam in Carolina; yes. Foles vs. Cam on the same team; Foles > Cam.

          • aub32

            I disagree. There games would be different, but for now I give the edge to Cam until I see more from Foles. Cam, in my opinion, has a higher ceiling than Foles. Will he reach it? I don’t know. The talent is there though, and he would be hard to stop with Shady and this O line. His passing numbers won’t be as efficient as Foles. Cam would be more of a big play QB. Foles will likely stretch the field horizontally and rely on guys to get YAC. Neither is bad. I like both QBs.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I don’t mind Cam, I’m just not as high as some people. I do want to see more from Foles, but I’m definitely smitten because he’s the prototype that I’ve wanted forever as an Eagles fan. What I like most is his attitude. Donovan was a close to a pocket passer as I’ve watched in my life, but he didn’t have that cool, calm, collected thing like Foles has going on. I’ve wanted that dude that will walk up and just take what he’s given over and over. Foles might be that dude.

          • aub32

            Kaep looked a lot better against that Seattle defense than Manning. The Seahawks had many of the same players the year before they drafted Wilson. They didn’t even make the playoffs. Plus Wilson and Cam have had very little talent to work with. I am not saying that any of these guys should be grouped with Rodgers, Manning, Brady or Brees. However, they are legit QBs and have done more than our guy so far.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I agree they’re legit NFL starters and have accomplished more. My point was just to illustrate that anon’s comments are not in a vacuum. You can’t discount top defenses / rushing attacks and just say “oh Wilson has a ring and Kaep has been there”.

            We as Eagles fans should know plenty about a good QB reaching high levels of success based off of great defensive play (thanks JJ).

          • aub32

            I would argue that their rushing attack is so good in part because of them. Mobile QBs help a team’s ability to rush. Look what Tebow did for Willis McGehee. (Probably spelled that wrong) Also, I think Wilson could do a lot more than what he is asked. I don’t know how much you watch the Hawks, but watch the games that were close at the end. You can almost see Pete take the cuffs off of Wilson and he makes the play to win the game. That happened against SF and CAR. He did the same against ATL his rookie season, but then the defense forgot to cover Tony Gonzalez.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            They certainly impact their teams rushing stats, but the Eagles rushed as well if not better after Vick was replaced by Foles so that’s a subjective argument that we can have all day. Further, I think Wilson is a very good QB and was high on him going into that draft. He deserves credit for coming through when it was needed, but he’s not a “carry a team” guy like Manning, Brady, Brees, or Rog. He’s a fantastic decision maker and manager much like Foles. I personally can’t stand Kaep’s game. One read, run. He can thank his defense much more than Wilson can in my book.

          • aub32

            Whoa. Go back and look at the stats. Shady is going to eat, but the run game was way more effective with Vick. I am not like some that said Foles hurt the run game. He did not. However, he physically can’t do the things Vick can do to help the run game. Forget the boost for McCoy. Vick was going to get rushing yards that Foles couldn’t dream of getting. That’s not to say Vick should have started. Foles did great. He has his own set of skills.

            I think Wilson would be amazing in our offense. I really don’t think he gets enough credit because that defense is all time great.

            We disagree on Kaep. He’s not the most developed passer, but he looked so much better after Crabtree came back. This will be a year to watch with him having Crab, Boldin, Davis and Johnson all healthy. He’s also clutch. The guy makes some huge plays in really big games. That’s something I really hope to see from Foles this year.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            You’re right on the rushing numbers. I got my wires crossed. In games started and finished by the subject QB the Eagles ran for 198 / gm with Vick in and 168 / gm with Foles in. They also scored 8.25 more points per game with Foles so I’ll take it lol. I’m not trying to start a Foles Vick debate here because Foles put that to bed, just figured I’d try to save some face haha. Forgive me.

          • aub32

            You’re cool. I just think too many people give credit to the running game without realizing that those running games are helped a lot by the mobility of the QB that is supposedly leaning on the rushing attack. No need for a Vick Foles debate.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Oh I’m well aware that those QB’s help the running game. I guess my contention is more along the lines of how I assign value and credit to a QB.

          • aub32

            I place a lot of value on being able to come up big in big games. Wilson, Kaep, and to an extent RG3 have shown this trait. I honestly think Luck is the guy who isn’t talked about enough. He is definitely a “carry the team” guy. He just has no defense, running game, or O line.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Which is sort of my point.

            Luck is far and away better than those three in my opinion, but without defense, running game, and OLine he comes up short.

            Conversely, those guys have great running games, defenses, and line play. They’re put in a position in which they don’t have to make every play, just maybe one or two. Sort of like dirty Sanchez with the jets when we went to back-to-back AFC Ships.

          • aub32

            They are in much better positions than luck, but I think you are crazy if you are comparing either guy to Sanchez, which I don’t think you are doing. I still don’t think any QB could take over either team and have the same amount of success, especially in the post season.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Oh I’m not comparing them to Sanchez, just their situation to his.

            I agree, Romo would surely find a way to choke on either team!

            Seriously though, I think if you put Brady, Brees, Manning, Rogers, or Luck on either team, they would duplicate or better.

            I think guys like Foles, Cam, Ryan, and Rivers stand an excellent chance of being at least as good.

            I guess that means that those nine plus Wilson are my top 10.

          • aub32

            I think you’ve made a huge omission to your top 10. No Big Ben?

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Can we have a Foles Vick debate for old times’ sake?

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            I thought we were talking RB specific. What were the numbers for Shady with Vick in and with Foles in? Just curious.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            Shady averaged 115 yd/game in games vick started and finished and 110 yd/gam in games foles started and finished. I excluded the both Giants games and the first Cowboys game.

            If you were to split the first Giants game in which Vick and Foles each played about half then the averages are 107 / game with Vick and 107 / game with Foles.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            So Shady got his regardless of QB and the ground game “suffered” because Foles isn’t fast. All that arguing for nothing haha.

          • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

            I’ll take Foles’ positive delta in TD’s, negative delta in Int’s, positive delta in yards passing, and overall style of play over an extra 25-30 yards a game rushing ANY day of the week.

            ^^^ This wasn’t really an argument aub and I were having, but I just figured I’d throw it out there ^^^ haha

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            Lol. Anyone who wouldn’t is a ratard.

          • anon

            Yeah that playoff game against ATL was crazy. I love Foles, think he’s great, but I hate the bashing of other young QBs just b/c they get more shine. Foles will get that in due time. He had one great year (he was alright his rookie season and definitely nothing special in college). He didn’t play a playoff team until the saints, and played some of the worst defenses in the league with our last place schedule.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            Look what Manning did for Knowshon.

          • aub32

            Tebow did way more for Mcgahee than Manning did for Knowshon. Knowshon is still a relatively young back who couldn’t stay healthy the past 2 years. His production on the ground wasn’t much more than what he did his first 2 seasons. Mcgahee was done. He was 30. Tebow helped him reach stats he hadn’t seen in years.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            Well maybe he hadn’t seen those stats because Ray Rice came into the league? Just a thought. Additionally, I don’t care about just “ground” production. Overall production is what counts, and Moreno killed it last year because of Manning. Over 1650yds of offense vs 1250 for McGahee with Tebow.

          • aub32

            Overall production is what matters but if you look back this discussion was specifically about what a QB who can move does for the “run” game. So the other yards aren’t relevant in regard to this point.

          • MagatBrackendale

            i live in Seahawk territory, see a lot of Wilson. You couldn’t ask for a smarter, more confident QB/leader for your team. Not a braggart at all, just self assured.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            Kaep’s line also look a lot better against Seattle’s than Denver’s.

          • aub32

            That’s a very fair point. I think Kaep’s skill set helps against that secondary though. Kaep has a hose. He can wait a bit and see guys open then zip it in there. Manning has to rely on timing. That’s hard when SEA is knocking your WRs around.

          • JofreyRice

            you make a good point about the arm strength, but Kaep looked like he was just one-reading and taking off a lot, which is why their O did better than Denver did. Just looked at the stats and he threw for 150 yards and 2 INTs, but rushed for like 130. Yeah, that’s about how I remember the game going down.

          • peteike

            the reason I bet rest of my balance on the Broncos. Thought that if SF could make some noise against that D, certainly Manning and that record breaking offense could do better. Silly me

          • aub32

            I knew Manning was going to lose. I didn’t think it’d be as bad as it was. He never faced a defense like that playing in the AFC. His journey through the playoffs was relatively easy compared to the Seahawks.

          • peteike

            Ive lost betting the superbowl like 4 seasons in a row. Im starting to think I should just opposite bet myself

          • Brian Zee

            Then you’ll have to get really tricky and opposite opposite bet yourself, which means you’re back at your original bet.

          • MagatBrackendale

            Please. ALL offenses benefit from good defense. Saying Wilson doesn’t win without the LOB is self-evident. If Foles had a better or at least more consistent D, he would have won more too. Anon was only saying don’t anoint any one individual based on 1 and 1/2 seasons.

          • MediaMike

            Newton and Kaep are garbage.

        • aub32

          Yes but despite being bigger, he has been injured in both seasons that he has played, and they weren’t even full seasons.

        • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

          He threw that left handed!

  • Addicted2MAmula

    Not going to lie I drafted Foles , Sproles , Matthews , and Ertz in all my fantasy football leagues

    • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

      its OK to be a fantasy homer. makes Eagles games that much more enjoyable. Besides, I’m sure the other guys in the league appreciate it.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ Kelce’s Beard

      hahaha I’m with you, though we don’t draft until the 23rd. Last year I took McCoy I think 5th overall? And got Djax later, maybe 5th? And every year, I take all kinds of cr@p (many of my friends down here are Bal and Was fans).

      Nothing feels better than letting the season play out while Shady carries me to a 1st rd bye

      • Addicted2MAmula

        Right! I got McCoy in two leages this year. If Matthews get more playing time in the second half of the season he will be a steal in fantasy. He is the WR we all been looking for as our #1

        • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

          I have every intention of trying to land him in the later rounds of my keeper league draft. Many Eags fans tho, so he might get taken earlier.

          • anon

            yeah i missed on djax and regretted it all last year. problem is how evenly spread our are things going to be. I can see as much happening on wheel routes and ertz over the middle as jmatt getting a lot of touches out of the slot.

          • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

            Yeah I nabbed him in the 6th last year and it was mostly awesome

    • Say No to Marc Mo From Easton

      Hope Matthews and Sproles aren’t your number ones or even number twos. I see them both being a good flex player based on match ups.

      • Addicted2MAmula

        Nah they are my sleepers

    • EagleDuck

      I also drafted Casey Matthews this year!!! It’s going to pay huge dividends… I can feel it.

      • MagatBrackendale

        “first when there’s nothing…but a slow glowing dream…”

    • peteike

      when to snag Foles is my biggest question. I want him but at the right spot although I wont be stupid about it. It is a tough schedule this year but he will still produce

      • Addicted2MAmula

        I grabbed him in 4th 5th round. Once I seen Qbs go. MATTHEWS was always the last pick

  • Bullwinkle

    It almost seems like fantasy football has become as big as the real thing. Maybe we can have a fantasy life where we draft the wife and family of our choice and select the job we want. We can find true happiness in our fantasy world.

    • kleptolia

      Already exist. It’s called massive online multi-player video gaming.

    • Average__Joseph

      OMG…I don’t do fantasy football but sign me up for “Fantasy Life”!!!!!!

      Just An Average Joseph

  • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

    “There’s no obvious All-Pro player under 25 for the Eagles…”

    Like maybe the MVP of the Pro-Bowl?

    • OldDuckMcDoc

      He is 25, rather than under.

      And yeah, arbitrary cut off point is arbitrary.

      • https://twitter.com/richcolton RichC, brings duck to cockfigh

        he’s 25? Damn time flies.

    • jon h

      How many under 25 pro bowlers are there in the league right now?

      • RIP illa

        16

    • aub32

      In fairness he only got into the pro bowl because other players chose not to go. I don’t know if I would deem him a pro bowler based on that. Also, there’s a big difference between pro bowl and all pro. The guys who determine all pro usually get it right.

      • Explorer51

        Yeah, and in fairness, he also earned MVP in the bowl that he shouldn’t have been invited to.

      • MediaMike

        He should have been voted in ahead of a few of those guys anyway.

  • Amar, CB who bought in

    Training camp/Pre-season resolution :
    Skip every article that only talks about:
    1) Potential Bust candidate and
    2) Potential breakout star.
    Nobody can predict against the grain that decisively…

  • Bert’s Bells

    “Philadelphia is in prime position to become the first team to defend the NFC East title since the 2004 Eagles”

    Ugh. EVERY division winner is in the position to defend the title every season.

    How do these guys get jobs? Is this what happens when newspapers only recruit from Northwestern?

    • aub32

      Exactly. Everyone though WAS was in prime position last year with RG3 coming back in week one.

      • anon

        prime position to be terrible.

    • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

      But is every team in “prime position”? That, sir, is the key question.

      • Bert’s Bells

        Good point! And let’s not forget the author’s use of classical alliteration- two consecutive “p”‘s preceded by a third “p” separated by two words.

        I was mistaken, truly this author is worth his weight in BAs from a trimester-schedule university.

  • cliff h-MOAR white goons

    swear every time i see Ertz’s height/weight listed, he get’s taller and heavier. never seen him up close, just basing against pics when i can compare him to non-nfl monsters, he doesnt look 6’5 250.

    • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

      You didn’t know he was 6’7″ 265?

      • MediaMike

        265? Isn’t that Logan’s real weight?

        • NickS FFLC/GM/DPP/Scout/HC/OC

          255, actually.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          think some want a 5’6 520 NT.
          .
          was tempted to post a pic…but, wow, that is not a google imagine search for the faint of heart

          • MediaMike

            Did you have some pics of Jerry Ball in a compromising position?

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    Kramer Barwin..

  • Amar, CB who bought in

    Last night, had a dream and saw Nick Foles with the Lombardi Trophy. Am seeing flashes of the vision all day.
    Now I think they never had the chance to go past Seattle or San Fran, but if they did, I’ve already jinxed it.

    • MediaMike

      You meant just Seattle. Kaep sucks.

      • Amar, CB who bought in

        Thats true, I remember how bad they were at the beginning of the season. The NFC West teams are more Defense-heavy.

        • aub32

          You mean when Crabtree was injured and Davis was in and out of games?

  • william20

    Who really cares what these do called experts say. Everything is all about health, if they don’t get nailed with the injury bug they will win the a East again.