Maclin: I Won’t Get Caught Up In Numbers

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There’s no doubt that the bar has been set high for Jeremy Maclin.

The Eagles are counting on a number of players to fill the void left by DeSean Jackson, but Maclin is at the top of that list. Earlier this offseason, Howie Roseman invoked Adrian Peterson’s name when discussing Maclin’s ability to come back strong from an ACL tear. And Chip Kelly brought up Maclin when asked how the Eagles would replace Jackson’s downfield ability.




"I'm just excited to play football again," said Maclin Friday afternoon. "I had to watch last year from the couch, from the sidelines. It wasn't very fun for me."

As Maclin watched, he undoubtedly pictured himself in Kelly's offense. Jackson, Riley Cooper and LeSean McCoy all put up career numbers. Maclin was a free agent this offseason and settled for a one-year contract, but with a strong performance, he'll be looking at a big payday - either in Philadelphia or somewhere else.

"I've never really gotten into numbers, but if they plan on me being a big part of this offense like I think they are, I think the numbers will come," he said. "So I'm not gonna get wrapped up in all that. That's how I'm gonna approach the season."

Pressed further about numbers being brought up at the negotiating table, Maclin added: "You say that, and I understand yeah, when it comes to that type of stuff, it does matter. But at the end of the day, if you can play football, you can play football. Not too many people come off an ACL injury and get a one-year deal worth up to $6 million. That just doesn't happen. So is it all based off stats? The answer to that is no. I think it's based on if you can play football, how valuable you are to the team, and I think there's a lot of other stuff that goes into it. But like I said earlier, I'm not gonna get caught up in the numbers."

Barring something unforeseen, Maclin and Cooper will start on the outside. Jordan Matthews is the favorite to land the first-team job in the slot.

But as we saw last year, wide receivers will move around. Jackson, for example, spent 26.5 percent of his snaps in the slot, per Pro Football Focus.

"I think they'll have packages where I'm in the slot and also where I'm at my normal position," Maclin said. "I think they'll move me around a little bit, but I'm willing to do anything they ask me to do.

"You can move me inside, probably get me some mismatches on the third corner or on a safety that's coming down in the box a little bit. So we'll see what happens."

Sunday will mark a full year since Maclin suffered the injury. This time around, he's hoping to stay healthy, contribute and decide his long-term future after the season.

Clearly, the Eagles are counting on him.

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  • MediaMike

    He obviously can’t get caught up in numbers because he isn’t as good as Jackson.

    • OldDuckMcDoc

      That horse is dead dude. You ain’t need to keep beatin’ it.

      • MediaMike

        It won’t be un-beat until we see Maclin / Eagles output in 2014 vs. Jackson / Eagles output in 2013. Feel free to flame me if Maclin proves me wrong.

        • OldDuckMcDoc

          Yeah, because the only variable there is Maclin in, DJ out. No other personnel changes, both were on the same money, exactly the same schedule, all other intangibles identical.

          Please.

          I think everyone gets that you don’t like Maclin. Dead horse is dead. Move on.

          • MediaMike

            You’re venturing into some personal elements of the discussion. I’ll move on when I feel like and you can look at the situation in any way you feel like as well. Feel free to disagree with me, but you have zero right to dictate who can look at whatever situation in whatever manner they choose. Keeping it topical would be a much smarter move for you.

          • OldDuckMcDoc

            Judging Maclin on his own merits instead of comparing him directly to 2013 DeSean numbers *is* keeping it topical. Constant stream of “Maclin sucks” and “DeSean > Maclin”, not so much.

            He needs to play well, be productive, stay healthy and help us get Ws. If he does that, couldn’t care less whether he equals DeSean’s numbers. No idea why anyone would.

          • MediaMike

            I think walking down the road of stats = merits is only necessitated by folks claiming Maclin is better than Jackson. If folks, and I’m not painting you with this brush, would avoid making that claim it would keep me from broaching that element of the discussion. Ultimately speaking I’m sure we’ll have a great discussion about the results of the season when we look at win/loss, overall finish in the playoffs, and the overall statistical ranking of the team.
            My fear, and I need to see results to assuage them, is that taking a 3 time pro-bowl WR who forced the D to set their coverage on every snap off of this roster is going to make the team worse. I don’t see Maclin being able to do that. My hope is that when 2015 rolls around Matthews, Huff, and Ertz can bridge that gap.
            I’m just not comfortable putting a #2 in Maclin out there as our #1. That blew up in our face in the early 2000s when we lacked enough talent at WR to fully compete in the playoffs.

          • OldDuckMcDoc

            Fair enough. FWIW, I don’t believe Maclin’s the better receiver. I think DeSean is. I would say that 12 months ago that debate was a lot closer than it looks today so I’m curious to see if Maclin can stay healthy and play well in Chip’s O, but 12 months ago I’d still have come down on the DJ side of the debate. I think Mac *can* be a decent #1 option but he still needs to prove it.

            I think we’re waaaaay better off at WR than we were in the early 2000s but that partly comes down to the eye-covering awfulness of Thrash, Pinkston, Fred Ex et al.

          • MediaMike

            Good deal. We’ll see how it shakes out.

          • anon

            It’ll be interesting to see how Maclin performs. I just want football time to come.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            the real question, is Mac the better WR for Foles. DJ was the better WR for Vick, because Vick was best on broken down ad libs and could throw it to jax running wind sprints 75 yds downfield. Mac likes running routes, getting ball ontime, which Foles does very well. i’d still take jax, we’ll see. Mac in ’12 had 3 really good game w/ Foles, numbers in over a season would make us all happy.

          • Jack

            If you take Maclin’s 7 games with Foles at QB in 2012 and account for a 16 game season, he would have had 1145 yards and 9 TDs. Considering that 7 games was in 2012 with the team in shambles, I’d say it is pretty surprising.

          • Kev_H

            If you do the same thing with the four games Avant played with Foles in 2012 (he was hurt and missed time too), you would have 88 catches for 1,304 yards, but no TDs. It’s why I’m not entirely sold on the notion that it is Kelly, not Foles, mostly responsible for Cooper and Jackson career years last year.

            I think a lot of people missed some solid, rookie QB play in 2012 because the team was in last place and losing games. For example, since Foles’ first career start, he has thrown 4 INTs in 504 passes. People say a 0.006 interception rate is unsustainable, but after his first start in 2012, his interception rate was 0.01, which was better than anybody in all of football that year.

          • Kev_H

            I don’t know. I’d get frustrated with Jackson on many of those broken plays too. Sometimes it works to go long, but more often it is better to work your way back to the QB- the standard drill when your QB is in trouble, and Jackson is poor at doing that.

          • IG:blkboyflyy

            You’re right Jackson is terrible at working back toward the QB . But Cooper does and other receivers are more consistent in that area as well.

        • Johnny Domino

          Don’t forget the Jackson 2013 v. Jackson 2014 comparison.

          Think DJax may be running deep a lot while RG3 either throws under him or takes off. Have to see how it shakes out.

          • MediaMike

            Except RG3 and the Skins are significantly worse than Foles.

          • Johnny Domino

            You are as good as somebody else thinks you are, maybe he will raise their game.
            Or not.

    • FluxCapacitor

      Maclin is a much better WR overall.

      • MediaMike

        No, he’s not and never has been. The Rodriguez piece put that to bed.

        • xmbk

          Definitely not. Actual football being played should put the Rodriguez piece to bed soon enough. Should be fun times for Eagles fans.

      • MediaMike

        http://nflspinzone.com/2014/01/02/philadelphia-eagles-vs-dallas-cowboys-22-film-review/
        Dallas writers seem to have a high opinion of Jackson’s ability to clear out entire sides of a football field. Maclin won’t command this type of coverage.

        • Kev_H

          What am I missing here? He highlights a couple of plays where the receiver (either Jackson or Avant) go into motion and defenders following them either clear space for the offense or take themselves out of plays.

          I guess using your logic that Jackson is so specially skilled that if the opponent is in man coverage and Jackson goes in motion, the guy covering him will follow (like he would follow every other receiver), we need to be worried about filling the void left by Avant, because the guy responsible for him in the long McCoy run featured, was so focused on picking up Avant, he ran himself right out of the play, crossing right in front of McCoy’s path with his eyes on Avant.

          I swear, at times it seems like the Jackson fans feel like the Eagles, having released Jackson, will have to play short handed.

          There are standard coverages where defenders will follow the man they are responsible for covering when he goes in motion. It doesn’t matter who the receiver is, and schemes often use that to create open space. The Eagles will still do this, and probably more since Jackson isn’t a very multidimensional receiver. Also realize that every receiver who ever lined up, whether it was on the playground or in the Super Bowl, must be accounted for by the defense on every play. Sheesh!

          • MediaMike

            The writers specifically mentioned that covering Jackson cleared out entire sides of the field. That would need to be due to double coverage. There is an old post, and I cannot find the link, where there is an all-22 of Jackson getting doubled by Dallas each and every time for the entire game. I think we’ll miss that ability to make the QBs reads that much easier.

          • Kev_H

            Then that’s what I missed because in the link above I read “on this play, Desean Jackson is going to come across the field in motion before the snap, clearing out the right side of the field”. There is also mention of a short TD pass to McCoy from the Dallas 3, where Jackson going in motion caused confusion among the defenders. I presume they weren’t overly concerned about being burned deep from the 3. It just seems like there is a lot of mythology out there re. Jackson and this idea that fans are seeing something that Kelly and Shurmur are completely missing.

            That’s it, concerning Jackson, from a fairly comprehensive review of the game (where he gained 28 yards) and you do realize your link is from Fansided, which is written by fans, so basically a more formal version of the comments section of the blog we are on right now, though I thought the guy’s analysis was solid.

  • MediaMike

    Allen Rodriguez = God!

  • knighn

    It looks like Maclin wants to drop the ST from STJM and add it to the end of BEAST. Let’s hope his play lives up to that.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      he looks really fit. one good thing about ACL, nothing to do for 6-8 months but pack on muscle at the gym

      • MediaMike

        Evan Silva is of the opinion that skill guys “adding muscle” is a detriment because it slows them down and takes away explosiveness.

        • cliff h-MOAR white goons

          well, sure Hals would 100% disagree. and anyone who’s ever added 10 lbs while gaining 3 or 4 lbs overall would too.

          • MediaMike

            SIlva had some great examples of guys losing production as a result of gaining weight. I’m all in favor of our guys getting better body comp, but we don’t need anybody slowing down at the skill positions.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            love to see that link. i’ll bet alot of those guys were at tail ends of careers too. rarely do you see these guys put in massive gymtime till the end.

          • MediaMike

            It was in some tweets he’s put out. Here is one. If you follow him on twitter, he states this often. His fantasy rankings are the only ones I used last year and I put up two 2nds and a 3rd in my leagues. I trust him most of the time.

            https://twitter.com/jharrisfootball/status/484777363486416896

          • EaglesFanInPhx

            From what I remember from the reports back then, he showed up 15 pounds of fat heavier and out of shape, not muscle.

          • cliff h-MOAR white goons

            RBs. yeah, those guy do that all the time. go from athletic to lumbering. dont think Mac put on anywhere near that type of mass.

          • MediaMike

            Which is why I’d like to see how Polk looks this season. I’m a big fan of his 3 down ability and seeing him one year more streamlined will help reinforce our smart move to trade away Mr. “I’m running a sweep even if you didn’t call a sweep” Brown to Buffalo.

          • JosephR2225

            There’s a lot of gray area between Jeremy Maclin and someone like David Boston, who (pharmaceutically) got too big for his own good. I think Maclin’s biggest weakness has always been a lack of physicality, so if he can address that without sacrificing too much speed I think that’s exactly what he needs.

  • cliff h-MOAR white goons

    yeah, up to 6m…if you get numbers.

    • MediaMike

      Excellent “if” Cliff!

      • cliff h-MOAR white goons

        hope he makes 6m. pretty sure base is 3m, the other 3m is obviously incentives. dont know them off-hand, sure it’s production, total/percentage of plays, and then some awards all-pro etc, like Vick’s 10m.

  • Bring back Geagle

    Try and stay healthy for a whole year. His numbers will come in this offense no doubt.

  • xmbk

    I’m curious as to how many snaps Mac gets at the Z, compared to the percentage he got at X when Jackson was here. Could make a significant difference.

    • MediaMike

      That is one of the really positive elements of Kelly being creative with the personnel groupings. I’m looking forward to see what guys they move where, especially on plays when both TEs are in the game or when both Shady and Sproles are playing.

  • anon

    Jaws: “I would take Foles over Wilson and it’s not even close”. Jaws is all over the place to me, he was one of Foles’ biggest detractors. Then when he’s wrong he just says he “went back and really studied the tape” I think he should just admit he’s not a great evaluator.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/26/jaworski-would-take-foles-over-wilson-and-its-not-even-close/

    • MediaMike

      A much better conclusion is that I’d take BOTH Wilson and Foles over losers like Kaeper-nit-wit and Scam Newtown.

    • cliff h-MOAR white goons

      think jaws always liked Foles, what he didnt like/understand was kelly’s offense. his point last spring was kelly’s Oregon offense would not transfer over to the pros. but, he refused to take into consideration that Shurmur was hired and incorporating a more professional passing attack. then when Vick looked so good in PS, Jaws was wondering how Foles would run same plays as Vick, which between legs and arm, no one really can, and again jaws refused to acknowledge that kelly said he adjust his offense to who’s in playing.
      .
      it was getting pretty frustrating for me to listen to jaws, who i generally like (as ESPN guys go, they end up ruining everyone, look at SalPal) because he was arguing against his own talking points, and nothing was based on anything kelly had done or shown.
      .

      • MediaMike

        Yeah, they do fill a lot of air time with the same guys making self-contradictory statements far too often. Sal Pal is the absolute worst. I really enjoyed Jaws best on MNF and still insist booting him for Gruden to “analyze” alone was a mistake.

    • Kev_H

      I get this to some degree. When detractors say Foles’ film doesn’t match the stats, I think they are just looking at one game at a time as in maybe the Green Bay, Arizona, or Dallas games where he had a great passer rating, but watching the game it didn’t “feel” like he was dominant or carrying the team.

      However, when you watch the entire body of work in the 2013 season, there really isn’t anything Foles wasn’t asked to do and he excelled in every part of the game. As a defense, you can’t say, we’ll force him to beat us deep, or make him throw outside of the numbers, or keep him in the pocket, or force him outside of the pocket, because he really did a great job at everything, consistently, all season long. So after you sit down and watch ten games and realize that he did everything, made very few mistakes, made good decisions, and can improve. It is hard not to be high on Foles, although I think the “not even close” is for attention.