Wake-Up Call: Impact Of the Kaepernick Deal

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Last week we asked former agent and salary cap expert Joel Corry about the type of deal Nick Foles might command if he has another strong season in 2014. His response is worth revisiting given what has transpired since.

“Now to get in the game with quarterbacks, you’re going to have to go 18 million per season and close to 50 million in guarantees. [Colin] Kaepernick should get done before  training camp starts. That’s going to be another benchmark Foles is going to point to,” said Corry. “And I can’t see that number coming in below [Jay] Cutler. He wants $20 million per season…I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets it. That’s just going to be another data point to add to the equation to help Foles.”




Sure enough, Kaepernick signed a six-year deal that is reportedly worth $126 million ($21 million per season) and contains $61 million worth of guarantees. [Though the numbers aren't quite what they appear.] He joins a growing list of QBs that have cashed in of late to help set the market.

Below is a list of mid-to-upper tier quarterbacks that have received new deals over the last two years.

Name
Years/Total Value
Average per year
Guarantees
Date of deal
Colin Kaepernick6/$126 million$21 $61 million6/4/14
Jay Cutler7/$126.7 million$18.1 $54 million1/2/14
Matt Ryan5/$103.75 million$20.75$59 million7/25/13
Matthew Stafford3/$53 million$17.66 $41.5 million7/9/13
Aaron Rodgers5/$110 million $22 $54 million4/26/13
Tony Romo6/$108 million$18 $40 million3/29/13
Joe Flacco6/$120.6 million$20.1 $52 million3/1/13
Tom Brady5/$60 million$12 $60 million2/25/13

* Salaries courtesy on Rotoworld and Spotrac.

Average that out between the eight, and you come up with $19 million per season with $53 million in guarantees.

Kaepernick's deal is of particular interest as we try to size up Foles' situation. The former second-round pick was entering the final year of his rookie deal and was scheduled to make about $1 million in 2014.  Foles, who will be eligible to renegotiate after the final regular season game this year, is slated to make less than that in 2015. The low Year 4 salary should theoretically give the team some leverage at the negotiating table, as Andrew Brandt recently pointed out during an appearance on 97.5 The Fanatic. Yet Kaepernick was able to secure the most guaranteed money in NFL history assuming the early numbers are accurate. [Update: PFT has the details of the deal here. The way it is structured is pretty team-friendly.]

The Niners (and Kaepernick's representation) probably recognized that the price for QBs will only go up. Cam Newton was drafted the same year as Kaepernick and is eligible for a new contract. At the end of this season, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, RGIII and Foles will be able to strike new deals as well.

The Eagles have traditionally tried to sign their core players early in the name of locking them in at a discount rate. Given the current landscape and the big deals on the horizon, even a discount rate could be a hefty sum if Foles is dynamite once again this season.

WHAT YOU MISSED

Even with Foles at the helm,  the zone read isn't going anywhere.

Scouting the scouts: The Eagles made a series of hires and promotions yesterday in the front office.

Says Michael Bamiro“I’m really just doing whatever I can to get myself on that field."

Don't try telling DeMeco Ryans he needs to come off the field at any point, Sheil writes.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Zach Ertz is the most intriguing Eagle in 2014, according to Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com:

Ertz seems to be a tremendous fit in Kelly's offense, but he had a relatively pedestrian rookie season. This season, with no DeSean Jackson, and a bunch of targets up for grabs, Ertz could be the recipient. We could see a lot of two-tight end sets from the Eagles and Brent Celek is not getting any younger.

Brad Smith could turn into another one of Chip Kelly's weapons now that he's been able to adjust to the offense, Reuben Frank of CSNPhilly.com notes:

Without OTAs, training camp or a preseason, Smith never blossomed with the 2013 Eagles. He got just 20 offensive snaps after signing, none in the playoff loss to the Saints.

He did contribute on special teams -- 93 snaps, or 15½ per game -- but the multi-talented two-way weapon who was so dangerous earlier in his career? Just didn’t happen.

COMING UP

We'll put together a Twitter Mailbag and see what else pops up.

Josh Paunil contributed to this post.

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  • JosephR2225

    It turns out the Kaepernick deal is actually good news for the Eagles when it comes to re-signing Foles. PFT wrote up the full contract details and it’s really convoluted but it’s actually very team friendly.

    There is $61 million “guaranteed” but only $13 million is FULLY guaranteed. The base salaries for 2015-2017 and part of 2018 are guaranteed for injury only, and convert to full guarantees on April 1 of each year. In other words, in each offseason the 49ers will be able to decide whether they want to keep Kaep of move on and suffer a very small dead money hit if they want to move on. There are also a lot of escalators for roster bonuses and workout bonuses and a very strange de-escalator provision, but the big deal is that it’s basically a year-to-year contract.

    I know you were up all night Howie, but it’s okay. Get some sleep.

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    • NickS1

      Said yesterday that I thought it was a Howie-esque deal given only 12mil in signing bonus. Minimizes the proration. Didnt expect the team to have such friendly options though. This is a gem and is excellent news for Howie if indeed true.

    • JAMIN67

      Just saw the full details of Kaep’s contract and man, it is VERY team friendly. Love that the total payout can potentially decrease $2 million per year (up to $12 million potentially going away over the life of the contract) unless Kaep takes 80% of the snaps AND if the team gets to the Super Bowl or he is named an All-Pro. It really is a win-win contract if he performs well, but basically gives the team mucho flexibility if he doesn’t.

      • JosephR2225

        And both the Super Bowl and the All-Pro conditions will be blocked by the Eagles and Foles, respectively.

    • Alex
      • DirtyWaters

        Not often you see “Pro Football Talk” and “interesting read” in the same post.

        After reading the article, I was shocked to see it came from Florio. It was ALMOST totally devoid of speculation, hyperbole and conjecture.

  • myeaglescantwin

    There’s no question that this will impact how Foles’s contract needs to be handled.

    I firmly believe that Foles is the type of player that will look at the bigger picture. They won’t be able to give him any talented weapons unless they can afford them and remain around $15mil under the cap (just how they do).
    I think Foles will work for a large contract, but i’m betting the cap hit year to year will be only around 12-15. Possibly something in the 3-4 year range, fully guaranteed, so he can re-up the contract again in the dead prime of his career.

    • aub32

      I said this last year and continue to ask where this pipe dream is coming from. You and others act as if you know foles personally. Foles isn’t Brady. Foles hasn’t made his money. Nor does he have a wife making more than almost any football player. Where are Foles’ endorsement deals? This take a small deal now concept is silly. This is the NFL. Players may not make it to their next big payday. Players don’t take less money early in their career. Look at Flacco. He could’ve inked a mid range deal. Instead he risked everything betting on himself and took everything he could. The idea that foles will take less money after playing only 3 years and getting paid zilch in comparison with other top QBs is asinine and laughable.

      • JosephR2225

        Totally agree. The “hometown discount” is a myth. Even the Brady contract, which seemed at first glance that he was taking way below market value, isn’t really a discount. (He was set to earn $30M in 2013 and 2014 before the extension, he will now earn $33M in 2013 and 2014 after the extension by getting more money up front. IF he plays 2015-2017 under his current contract it would be a discount, but I doubt he will).

        Foles deal will be determined by market value. He’s not going to leave millions of dollars on the table just because he’s a good guy.

        • myeaglescantwin

          exactly right.

          I feel like every player is going to do whats best for their families.
          Look at the Werth deal. No one expected the Phills to buck up $12mil. They bucked $14. He signed for $17.
          If the team’s loyalties are $$$ why should we expect the players to not feel the same?

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again. No Foles won’t take a hometown discount. But he’s smart enough to realize where his value lies. If he stumbles this year, his bargaining power lies in his success of ’13 & the team will argue it as being a fluke. But (and it’s a big BUT) if he shows that he can maintain form as being a top QB & then also win a playoff game or two (hopeful..lol), he’ll be in line for a big payday. I’d still see the team looking for a deal similar in relative base salary & incentive laden.

      • myeaglescantwin

        I was referring to he cap hit. not the full contract.

        I didn’t suggest he’d take less money, but try to negotiate a contract more favorable to the team’s bottom line. Cap numbers -vs- payday numbers rarely line up.
        He can pull the Vick and get a $20+ million dollar year, while only effecting the team in the $10-15 million range each year.

        & taking a shorter length deal that is fully guaranteed & bonus laden would be the best move for a 24 year old QB. He can have two major deals during his career.

        maybe have some sugar to brighten your mood this morning.

      • tommy_the_k

        Foles and his agent will get what the market dictates. His new wife may not be a billionaire, but his family did make many millions when they sold their family restaurant business.

    • Eagles1018

      Let’s hope you’re right. It’s not about “team friendly” and I want the Eagles to win. If y’all think these guys….any of them….is putting their long term health on the line to “help a team” that’s not how it works. If Foles tibia snaps in 2 pieces they will likely take a cap hit and dump him then he’s got nothing. Trust, he will milk them for whatever he can get. And honestly he better. How many of y’all willingly accept pay cuts to make your job salary company friendly? Exactly

      • myeaglescantwin

        See,
        we can’t compare our job’s and mindset to that of an NFL player.
        & rather than team friendly, lets focus on “cap friendly”.

        If Foles comes out and demands $22 million a year, fully guaranteed, no bonuses, he is directly cutting into the available resources that can be used to build offense by adding weapons.

        Any money that can be maneuvered in the contract will benefit Foles two fold. A good portion of the deal will get moved to guaranteed bonuses, making his up-front bottom line very attractive.
        2ndly, with working the deal to be “cap friendly” there are more available funds to add pieces to this team that could take Foles’s fame and legacy to the next level.
        ie, championships, probowls, national respect.

        To think that i’m suggesting Foles signs a $6mil / year deal in order to please Lurie or Howie is missing the big picture & my real point.
        All that I was suggesting in the first post, was that i believe Foles and his agent will put themselves in the best situation for success, both financially and professionally.

  • Reasonableeaglefan

    As I look at that table, the Cutler deal seems like the worst of the lot. I wish I had some advanced metric to back this up. He just seems like a jerk. I would be nervous about having my team locked in to that guy for those years at that money.

    • DirtyWaters

      I am excited for 7 more years of Smokin’ Jay pics.

      • Reasonableeaglefan

        I love the Smokin Jay pics. I was going to post a link but my iPhone wasn’t cooperating.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I was very much a fan of his in DEN but he has changed since coming over to CHI.

  • Reasonableeaglefan

    That’s a Murderers Row of mega contracts coming out of that draft class. Say what you want about them as players and were they rank, but they are all going to get paid.

  • Mr. Wu

    Tom Brady is the best bargain in sports

  • Bullwinkle

    It’s amazing. Aside from Rogers and Brady, none of the QBs on the list can be currently categorized as superstars. They are good players, but not great ones. Most have noticeable weaknesses.

  • TNA

    What’s the team records of these QBs after they sign these contracts?

  • Token

    Didnt they find out the Kaep deal is actually very team friendly in its structure? I saw PFT said it reminds them of old Eagles deals that result in players being pissed in a couple years.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I didn’t check yet, but if that’s the case, it sounds like a 2-3yr (possibly 4?) deal. Mostly depends on what he got up front. But $61M guaranteed is still a lofty number.

      • cliff henny

        there’s a ton of injury out-clauses. it’s friendly, but if CK doesn’t play great, just really well, they’re paying him for 4 or 5 yrs. guess best way to put it, is if you have to pay a qb 6yrs/20m per, it’s good way to structure a contract.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Hmm, you think they may have had Vick (mobile QB as well) in the back of their minds with those injury out-clauses?

          • cliff henny

            think they used leveraged of 1m vs 7yrs 126m, and got him to agree to whole bunch of things…and I’d do the same. I’d give body parts for 126m! see what happens in 2 or 3 yrs when 20m is underpaid vs some Vets getting major contracts. the leverage and loyalty might have worn off. will take some time, but that’s the next shoe to drop.

  • Addicted2MAmula

    Foles = 70 and Flacco = 58 top 100 in ’14 am I missing something?

    • Andy124

      Yes, you are.

      • Addicted2MAmula

        And that is? besides popularity

        • Andy124

          lol. The list is players rating the 2013 season and how they think the players will play in 2014 based on that (per wikipedia). It’s only natural that player predict greater success for guys that have been around longer. Overall, they’ve got Nick as the 11th qb. I’d rate him higher, but 11th is still fair.

          • Addicted2MAmula

            OK, now that I see that Flacco was the next QB after 27/2 I feel a little better lol. If 27/2 almost mirror what he did last year I expect him higher next year

  • oreofestar

    Still i nasty contract when I first saw it I fainted

  • NickS1

    This is beautiful. Assuming Foles balls out again this year, he may even get a little more favorable structuring. Kaep can be released for less than $10mil in dead money after year 3, as I predicted: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/colin-kaepernick/

  • Coatesvillain

    Watching the success of the Seahawks, I really wonder how long before a team is willing to let their QB simply walk instead of paying so much. While QB is a very important position it seems like a smart team could get around this while investing in the rest of the team. I’m just not sure who would have the guts to let a promising QB go.

    • Kev_H

      I can’t imagine that happening. Wilson is a young, low cost QB, but they had 4 straight losing seasons with musical chairs at quarterback before he came along. His play clearly has contributed a great deal to their success. I highly doubt they’d be champions with Flynn, Tavaris Jackson, or an aging Matt Hasselbeck under center.

      • Coatesvillain

        I’m not saying Seattle will do or should do it. I was using them as an example of a team that won with QB not taking this large portion of salary.

        I just think eventually there will be a team who doesn’t think their QB is worth the price tag he wants, and it’s better to let him walk and address other spots. I think it’ll happen, but not sure when. A likely candidate is Andy Dalton in Cincy (but he wouldn’t get a major payday anyway).

        • cliff henny

          thing is, Eagles are enjoying Foles being 700k, but it’s not like they couldn’t pay him 20m this yr, they have it in cap. the huge advantage these teams have is they saw these paydays coming. Ravens, Dallas and Chicago a little, didn’t prepare, paid qbs big money, but weren’t in position to absorb contracts.

          • Kev_H

            That probably applies to the Seahawks too since it seems like they just doled out a whole bunch of money to retain players this year.

          • cliff henny

            seattle’s cap is better than Eagles, seeing how they’ve wrapped up ET3 and Sherman and have 5m left this yr and 23m available next. they didn’t get into habit of mortgaging future, so they can clear as much or as little cap as they want (almost every player clears money if cut). it’s rather impressive. do believe they aren’t going anywhere for quite some time.

          • Adam G

            We’ve had this convo before, but Seattle’s cap will be an issue in 2015. They have a few players that they will need to deal with, but they will most likely lose them. They have two secondary guys tying up a ton of money. And Eagles cap is great. They will be like 40 mil under the cap next year after they make cuts.

          • cliff henny

            yeah, and thought you were wrong before. look at Kaep’s ’14 cap hit, it’s not that bad. these qb extension wont kick in till 2nd year (CK goes from 3m to 17m). so, seattle can layer multiple guys under the 30m they’ll have in ’15, but have 66m in ’16 when contract extrapolate. plus, look at ’16s cap, they don’t have 1 player carrying negative cap hit (http://overthecap.com/calculator/?Team=Seahawks). it’s a sal cap world, so tough decisions will have to be made by all good teams, but Seattle is in about a solid position as I can possibly see

          • Adam G

            Yes, but you are completely ignoring the studs that they will have to pay or lose. Of course they are under it now and will be ok, but they will no doubt lose a ton of talent. Its basic logic. They have a handful of guys that are making a fraction of what they would on the open market. They will have to budget 20 mil for Russell Wilson. After the 2015 season they will 100% lose guys.

          • NickS1

            How many players are under contract for those years is the question?

          • Adam G

            That’s my point. How can you even mention the cap space they have in 2016 where Russell Wilson, Okung, and Wagner are not signed? As well as a slew of other guys. Wilson and Okung could be close to 40 mil in cap room.

          • NickS1

            I’m with you there, for sure. While it appears they have flexibility based solely on numbers, that alone is misleading.

          • cliff henny

            way more than Eagles. go look at it, people are way off if they think Seattle is going to fall off because of money. the huge advantage of signing drafted talent is a, can stagger years, so yes, what they have in future years matters. you can put guy a’s contract heavy into ’16 and player b’s into ’17, you arent competing against anyone. and b, those first contracts do come at discount. no one is saying there wont be attrition. it just came out that Lynch is getting phased out to, so by then he’ll be off books, he clears close to 10m in ’16. now, SF, totally different, they have ton of upside down contracts, aging Vets that are on 2nd deal, those guys are way harder to sign. if Eagles want a SB in next 3 or 4 years, i’ll bet Seattle has something to say about it.

          • NickS1

            They’ve got 35 players under contract in 2016 with extensions to give still. And Lynch isn’t one of those 35 so we’ll see. After ’14 things will get interesting to watch out there.

        • peteike

          best scenario for something like this to happen would be for a guy who is almost touching that top 10 QB thing but has flaws. A Stafford or Cutler but maybe not Cutler since he has so many years behind him. That is this issue with something like that happening, you dont have a lot of guys who are proven to be mid level range that you could maybe risk dropping. It takes time for that to happen, so you see teams paying big on potential for a younger QB with a decent season or 2 under his belt.

    • Andy124

      I’m just not sure who would have the guts to let a promising QB go.

      I don’t think I’d call that guts so much as stupidity.

      • Coatesvillain

        It depends on if they see the QB as being worth the amount he’s asking for. In this hypothetical if a team thinks the QB’s success is more system and talent around him I could see a team not paying.

        • Andy124

          Depends on the qb. If it’s a qb you think you can win the superbowl with, you’re going to pay him market value. If it’s a qb you’re luke warm on, it could go either way.

        • anon

          Quickest way for a FO to get fired is to let a QB go if you don’t have one in the wings. SF still gets smack about letting Alex Smith go and they’ve been about as successful as you can ask for.

          • Andy124

            They do?

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    Brady a steal at 12 per

    • DirtyWaters

      I like the honest simplicity of the Brady deal. Here’s your $60M. Go do it.

    • Adam G

      Doesn’t hurt when your wife is worth a few hundred million.

    • anon

      Brady took less $ to keep Welker around and Pats still let him walk and haven’t replaced him with anything decent. Might as well get paid…

  • daveH

    I think BRad Smith is big this season

    • peteike

      I dont

  • Adam G

    I think the Eagles are happy with this contract given the low level of legit guaranteed money. If Foles performs in line with last year, it would be nice to get him to sign a similar contract with a few mil less per year.

  • guest

    “We’ll put together a Twitter Mailbag and see what else pops up.”

    The last part of that sure sounds like there’s some inside information is at play. I expect something relatively big to happen today.

  • Kev_H

    This contract isn’t what it’s cracked up to be. Most of the “guarantee” money is for injury only. Also his salary de-escalates by $2 million per year unless he plays 80% of snaps AND either get to the Super Bowl or be named first or second team all-pro. So it’s very likely his salary falls by $2 million every year too. This looks like McNabb’s blockbuster deal with Washington.

  • cliff henny

    not sure why being ‘team friendly’ is that big of news. it’s exactly what players and teams wanted in new CBA. if player shows it in rookie contract, the player will give some to get out of an underpaid rookie deal, and the drafting team has huge leverage to control drafted talent for extended years. Foles plays well, he’s getting paid. I’m reading more into guys like Boykin or Kendricks, they will happily rip up 4th rookie year to get minor discounted guaranteed money with Eagles. have really hard time believing Boykin will turn down 4yrs/16m w/ 8m guaranteed, basically 2 or 3 yr contract, and play 4th yr of rookie deal for 700k. that’s really rolling the dice, I know I wouldn’t. now that next contract, all bets are off.

    • anon

      Yeah but if i’m his agent (who should be fired), i’ve got a guy that’s taken the team to 3 straight NFCCs and he’s getting paid less guys that haven’t been to the playoffs in 5 years and team has ability to cut him after every season with little to no dead #. And he’s gotta pay for his own insurance, GTFOH. He looked at that topline number and said “ill take it”.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Wow, went to check out the details and the 49ers did their homework on how to write a contract. If you haven’t taken a look, it’s worth it because the deal at face value and in detail are two very different monsters. He’s still getting paid well (but not as high as you think), but is completely under team control and they can move on from him any year they choose after ’14. There is also a good portion of roster bonuses and also performance type de-escalator clauses that detract $2M from his wallet each year if he doesn’t attain certain goals. If he does, he stops the de-escalation. He is also required to attain a $20M disability insurance policy payable to the 49ers should he suffer a career ending injury. It’s really a thing of beauty and the 49ers did a masterful job of covering their back sides. I could certainly see Howie taking notes on the way this contract was written.

    • cliff henny

      http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=ColinKaepernick&Position=QB&Team=49ers
      yeah, I’d take this for FOles in a heartbeat. but, does scream holdout after 3 season if he’s killing it. way cba is structured, this 1st contract teams have leverage, but see what happens during 2nd.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        He still gets paid more though if he’s killing it. To stop the de-escalator, he needs to take 80% of the snaps and be 1st/2nd team Pro-Bowl selection OR 49ers “appear” in SB. He can satisfy this criteria once and he’s guaranteed an extra $2M/yr for the “remaining” life of this contract. Plus his base goes up each year & he can also make roster bonuses each year.

        Way I see this contract is, we’re giving you a raise because you’ve exceeded expectations and looked very good at times. We believe there is a possibility that you can be even better and if you are, attain this goal and it earns you an additional $2M/yr. Get hurt though and we’re gonna be covered as well. We’ll make it look really good, but only you have the power for it to be that good. Good luck kid.

        • cliff henny

          is he going to want all those hoops to jump thru to get paid? plus, 20m in 3yrs will be low end, I’m guessing, since sal cap is going up. do think cba is great, not overpaying rookies, and both sides having interests in that 1st FA contract. think the 2nd one, or just how ‘friendly’ teams make rookies sign that first one will need to be played out. have difficult time believing rookies wont re-up with drafting teams close to 100% if they show it before 4th yr, but then they have money, and now will have totally different mindset.

        • Kev_H

          I’m not clear on the de-escalator yet, but it looks like if he goes three years without getting to the Super Bowl or being named All-Pro (while playing 80% of the snaps), his salary drops $2 million each year or $6 million total going in to 2017 in this scenario. That seems more likely than not and if that is how it reads, it is more than an additional $2 million per year.

  • Kev_H

    The relevance here is that the player was unable to secure a long term commitment. The prospect of being able to dump non-performing former superstars with relatively little cost is great news for fans and team’s, not so good for players. There will be no Ryan Howard, team killing deals in football if the Kaepernick formula is followed.

    • Richard Colton

      thats the beauty of football

    • Uncle Wonder

      There have never really been team killing deals in football…totally different animal from baseball and basketball where every year of a deal is guaranteed. That helps the parity in the game…prolly why football is the most popular sport.

      • Richard Colton

        agree – with the exception of the rookie wage scale for top 10 picks. Thankfully, we didn’t have any in Philly after the McNabb/Corey Simon picks, but the teams who did – and picked a bust – had an albatross around their necks for years.

        • Uncle Wonder

          Yeah that is true…but in context, in football if you sign someone to a big deal and they badly underperform, you’re stuck w them for say 3 yrs…4 at the most b/c of dead money…in baseball you sign somebody to a 10 year deal, you are stuck with them for 10 years at likely incrementally higher salaries…you can either just spend more and more to bring in new talent to cover their definciencies and pay the luxury tax or you can trade them away and still end up paying 50-75% of their salary to play elsewhere. The NBA has thankfully reformed their salary system so it has been more team friendly recently. The hard salary cap and non guarantees are something every sport needs to adopt.

          • Richard Colton

            MLB has a stronger union than football. Basketball/Baseball are more star driven, and their careers are longer. I think you’re right, in that it would make for a better product. No way in hell the MLB players assoc would give up guaranteed contracts though.

          • Kev_H

            $100 million, guaranteed contracts seem to be a dime-a-dozen in MLB and the league and its owners are flourishing. If anything, players might look at that and get a little restless. I remember back in 2007-08, Jamie Moyer and Donovan McNabb were earning equivalent money. That’s just wrong.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            “The NBA has thankfully reformed their salary system so it has been more team friendly recently.”

            How have they changed? I’m asking seriously. I left the NBA in the dust. It’s been a declining product for over a decade & a nightmare since they implemented the cap.

          • Uncle Wonder

            They have stipulated the maximum length and amount of contracts. You cant exceed them and give players any deal they can negotiate like in baseball. I believe there is also a rookie wage scale.

          • Adam G

            Its the best they could’ve done, but now it provides such an advantage to the teams that have superstars bc they are so underpaid compared to what their true market is. Lebron as a max player is just so much better than Carmelo as a max player.

          • Uncle Wonder

            Thats the nature of bball, though. Only 5 players on the court at a time, the skill of each individual is more important than that of the whole team. A star in the NBA will take you further than a positional star in the NFL or MLB or just abt any other sport outside of NASCAR, PGA, and tennis…shout out to the PBA lol.

        • anon

          #Sam bradford

          • Uncle Wonder

            he was the last #1 pick to cash in under the old CBA

      • Kev_H

        I don’t know. Romo’s deal seems like a team killer to me. They can’t get out of it for a few years without really taking a big hit. Their only solace is that the salary cap number might grow quickly the next few years.

        • cliff henny

          that’s cause Romo had them over a barrel at 1000 foot ledge. JJ had cap so messed up, if he didn’t extend Romo in ’12, they could never compete with a front loaded contract out in free agency. plus, ’13’s cap was so banged up, they had to load his contract into ’12. add to it Dallas had zero backup plan, and was going all-in for a ’12 and ’13 super bowl push with vets.
          .
          Romo’s contract is exactly why sal cap management counts. have to look 2 yrs ahead. cracks me up, Romo’s contract was reported as team friendly, and as time is wearing on, seeing just how truly awful it is. and best part, the really crappy year haven’t even kicked in!

          • Adam G

            Well, the contract as signed is not what it is now. Every year they convert his salary into bonus so it gets prorated.

          • cliff henny

            JJ does that crap on purpose though, like scandricks this year. no idea why, guess he gets off on having situation look worse than it is, then he gets credit for fixing it.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        At least in the NHL they implemented an opt out clause for each team to be able to drop a bad contract. It’s a little more in depth than that, but it’s there. Problem with MLB & NBA is that they’ve allowed the employees to have a majority seat on the “parent” company’s board.

        MLB hasn’t quite suffered as much as NBA. But they need to do something to protect teams a little better. NBA needs a complete overhaul. That’s an effing disaster.

        • Richard Colton

          wasn’t that a one time thing Jerry? the amnesty we used on Bobrovski-chi-guru-deva-om?

    • JofreyRice

      I’m not really all that interested in the money aspect, generally, but from an admittedly simplistic point of view, I think they should all get a raise. Football contracts seem way cheap to me, considering the sacrifice these guys are making, and the amount of revenue they generate for the league. Even if they don’t play 162 games a year, or whatever, there is essentially only a 2 or 3 month “offseason” for them.

      • anon

        that’s more of an issue with that terrible CBA they signed.

      • Kev_H

        I agree with you 100%, NBA and NFL players are way underpaid, primarily due to poor collective bargaining and what is probably a rational individual aversion to striking when careers are so short.

        • Reasonableeaglefan

          I’d say NFL is underpaid. MLB is overpaid. NBA is fine to maybe overpaid. Hockey is underpaid compared to the physical demands, but has no TV market so you get what you get.

  • Kev_H

    On the Brad Smith note, didn’t the Eagles only sign him in November and he only appeared in the last 2-or-3 games? It is strange that so many seem to have jumped to conclusions about him with the Eagles based on last year. The Eagles signed him to a two year deal and paid him a good deal of money, so it would seem like Kelly has plans for him.

    • Uncle Wonder

      He was labeled as plug and play since he was a vet and had played in a spread system in college and was super versatile. He just didnt add anything and for his part CK tried to use him at ridiculous times…like, things that made me yell “this isnt Oregon anymore, Chip!!!” Also very non-dynamic in the return game.

      • anon

        He makes no money so i’m fine with whatever they get out of him.

    • cliff henny

      he took paycut over off-season. less money in ’14 and ’15 is gone. Benn went the cut and resign to get more friendly contract. sounds more like prove-it 5th WR money

      • Kev_H

        So, this isn’t correct? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/brad-smith/. I thought they paid him a whole bunch of money (relatively) up front to fit under 2013 season’s cap (am I wrong) and then pay him over $1 million this year. I didn’t know he re-signed or that he originally was signed through 2015.

        • cliff henny

          it is, but he was due 1.5m this yr, cut that down to 900k. my mistake is he was always a FA after this year. know he took paycut to stay with team.

          • Kev_H

            Gotcha! I found it. He took a $395K base salary pay cut on March 29th. They owed him $1.3 million for 2014, now it is $1.3 million – $395k with $450K guaranteed.

    • JofreyRice

      yeah, he was also a street free agent, right? Don’t know what Rueben is expecting, multiple 100 yard efforts out of the guy?

    • Uncle Wonder

      The thing I found most annoying was that CK was trying to insert him in Wildcat formations while we had one Mike Vick sitting on the sidelines…smh

  • Uncle Wonder

    • anon

      Yeah his contract should make howie proud. Kap also has to take out a $20mm insurance policy on himself, with his own after-tax money. Ouch.

      • NickS1

        Yup, paid to the 49ers. That’s awesome.

  • anon

    Honestly this story would have been more productive if you discussed his terms. I know terms came out late last night, but you’ve got an intern now. Think it totally changes the tenor of the article bc the deal is sooo team friendly.

  • Bean

    Gotta love how Ertz snaps are “pedestrian”, what an idiot.

    • Richard Colton

      I would say his “stats” not his “snaps”

      • Andy124

        He took your advice.

  • Bean

    Gotta love how Ertz stats are “pedestrian”, what an idiot

    • Richard Colton

      I would say his “snaps” not “stats”

  • Andy

    “if Foles is dynamite once again this season…”
    I see what you did there.

  • travis papa

    7 yr 126mil not a 6yrs. It runs thru 2020. If he reaches the full amount its only 18/yr I wish Foles could sign that deal today

  • John E. Zang

    Think of how close we were to trading for Kaepernick? So glad that didn’t materialize. I’m in the minority probably but I think he’s just another sensationalized qb because he “makes plays”. When it comes to crunch time he can’t read Dr.Seuss when it comes to defenses. He’s a physical freak and that’s all. Plus he’s a bit douchey.