McCoy Jabs Back At Peterson

LeSean McCoy
This time, LeSean McCoy said it like he meant it.

Last we checked in on the McCoy-Adrian Peterson back-and-forth over who’s the best in the business, Peterson suggested that if No. 25 was going to proclaim himself  the league’s top back, he should do so with more authority.

“He didn’t really mean it,” Peterson said during an interview with Fox Sports Radio. “If you watched his response, [he didn’t mean it]…It was funny because when Stephen A. [Smith] asked him the question, he kind of hesitated, and he didn’t believe it when he said it,” Peterson said. “I tell the youngsters, ‘Say it with your chest, like you mean it!'”




"I don't know him that well. I don't know if he was joking or what," McCoy said on Monday when Peterson's comments were brought up. "I don't know how to take that. I play the game and it speaks for itself."

The conversation shifted to another topic, but McCoy wasn't quite ready to let it go. One reporter asked if he was concerned about his numbers dipping at all with Darren Sproles now in the fold.

"Numbers? [A reporter] asked me about my man in Minnesota. Check them numbers."

Why do you think you're the best in the league?

"If you look around, look at the tape, as a back I do everything: I'm running, catching, blocking, third-down guy mixed in and out. There's not anything that you ask me that I won't do or that I can't do. So from that aspect, I said the last three years I don't think a back has been more productive," said McCoy.

You do more than Peterson on the field is what you're saying?

"Yes. Yes. Yes. Especially over the last three years, for sure. You're a numbers guy: check them numbers."

We did. Here's how they look:

2011
Rushes
Yards
Avg.
Receptions/yards
Total TDs
LeSean McCoy27313094.848/31520
Adrian Peterson2089704.718/13913
2012
McCoy2008404.254/3735
Peterson3482,0976.040/21713
2013
McCoy3141,6075.152/53911
Peterson2791,2664.529/17111
Total
McCoy7873,7564.7154/1,22736
Peterson8354,3335.187/52737

Peterson, who tore his ACL at the end of the 2011 season and bounced back with an MVP campaign in '12, has the edge in rushing yards, average and touchdowns overall. McCoy had the superior numbers in '11 and last season and is a more productive receiver out of the backfield.

"The point that I'm trying to make is versatile backs, it's hard to cancel them out because there's not a package that they can't perform in," said McCoy. "If you cut down the runs, alright, what else can this back do? Back can catch, back can run routes, back can block, it's still vital."

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  • Chris

    Two best backs in the league and we are lucky to have one of them on our team. I think that LeSean brings a little more to the table because of the receiving skills. It makes him, and therefore the entire Eagles offense, just a bit more dangerous than if he was more one-dimensional like Peterson.

  • Kevin

    Just back-up those words Shady! You are my franchise player on the “Biltz’n Bassetts” and we need our third championship in a row!

    Seriously though, not many backs can do what he does. It is a pleasure to watch him play every Sunday.

  • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

    Tell’em shady!!!! LET’EM KNOW!!!

  • Joe from Easton

    Not a fan of him running his mouth, but he’s always been that way and I’m a huge fan of his running of the football so I’ll take the good with the bad.

    • cliff henny

      yup, shady gets a pass.

      • Joe from Easton

        One more step in analysis shows that if you combine all touches, they average almost exactly the same yards per. Shady is sitting at 5.3 and AP at 5.27. I’ll take any back that can get half a first down per touch over the course of three seasons so I’m happy we have Shady, but I’d be happy with AP too.

        • cliff henny

          big difference is shady’ll be 26, AP closing in on 30. this point, if you are asking me today, I’m taking shady for next 3 yrs.

          • Joe from Easton

            Agreed Cliff. I was making that point more in McCoy’s favor. If you combine all touches McCoy does the same damage that AP does, that’s all.

          • daggolden

            I have a funny feeling AP is going to be the exception to the rule. I think not only doesn’t he slow down but he dominates for the next 4-5 years. Superhuman

          • Cliff Ainley

            Yeah, as his forehead gets bigger and bigger from HGH

    • JosephR2225

      I like it. This team could use a little swagger.

      • Joe from Easton

        We just sent all the swagger we need packin’ straight down I-95. Good riddance to that mentality. Not sayin’ Shady is Jaccpot, but I hate the term ‘swag’ or any variation of it and 10 took it with him. This team could use some attitude; that’s fine, but ‘swag’ is for 14 year olds and rappers.

        • Maggie

          Totally agree. Especially since “swag” has nothing to do with “swagger”. One is about collecting loot, valuable objects or money. The other is a style of walking/talking. Another distortion of the language.

          • TripSquadMonopoly

            They the same thing, swag is swagger. You old?

          • Britton VanHorn

            Gift bag goodies, items that “fell off a truck,” etc.
            Stuff
            We
            All
            Get
            SWAG!

        • JosephR2225

          Swagger, not swag. I like the confidence.

          • Joe from Easton

            Sorry for the word association. I’ll take confidence over swagger all day in that case.

          • LucyBlakeesas

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            monday I got a gorgeous Peugeot 205 GTi after having earned $6860 this past 4
            weeks an would you believe ten-k this past-month . with-out a doubt this is the
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        • Eagles1018

          A resounding AMEN to you sir

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      the dude says his own nickname when juking someone; that was a reported trait going back to HS, I believe (at least at Pitt)
      As long as his talents are as blown up as his ego, I’ll take it. And no felonies, please.

      • Eagles1018

        I hope you’re not joking. And I hope they do a mic’d up of him so Eagles fans can hear it on the game tape

      • Sean

        Agreed! He definitely did this in HS and College. I have sources at Bishop McDevitt (H-burg) that can confirm.

  • FluxCapacitor

    It’s tough to tell anybody that moves like Barry Sanders they are not the best…but I have a very tough time not giving at least a tie to All Day…the guy is a BEAST. I really think Shady can make a LOT of noise over the next few years in this offense though, man he is fun to watch.

    • JofreyRice

      yeah, I’ve always said, better career–ADP. Better right now, this very moment? I could at least understand the argument McCoy’s making. Kind of cocky for ADP to laugh it off like that.

  • cliff henny

    as shady said, he’s also including rec’g numbers…shady 1217yds and 8tds vs 467yds and 3tds. puts total yards and tds in McCoy’s favor. sure it’s a tough sell to anyone outside us Eagles’ fans, but I’m on Shady’s side, cause he’s ours.
    .
    edit, my bad, he had rec’g tds in there. doesn’t matter, wait a year, think shady’s going to separate some this coming year.

  • imnotsorryisaidthat

    put Adrian in kellys system and what would he do?

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      it would be like Bois’ breaking madden series

  • DAWK215

    Somewhere in my head I feel these two backs are giving media something to bite on while they continue to prepare for the upcoming season. Shady is an all-package back; AP is the guy that will run downhill and through tackles. At the end of the day, I’ll either one of them or both if available.
    Humility gets you nothing in NFL so Shady can say he’s the best in the league as long as he puts up the numbers on the field.
    But I still feel these guys are texting each other laughing how easy the media is drinking this cool-aid they continue to feed them.

    • Andy124

      Somewhere in my head I feel these two backs are giving media something to bite on

      What is the Frontal Lobe, Alex.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      fighting for #1 overall fantasy position.

  • ryyndynyyls

    Even though I wish Shady would just focus on playing, another thing worth mentioning in the comparison is that Shady hasn’t been getting carries at the expense of the remainder of the offense, and his carries haven’t been a crutch for the Birds the way that AP’s are for the Vikes. Minnesota basically spent every year since Favre left (and some before he arrived) assuming that AP could carry the whole team, and because of that the team as a whole hasn’t improved. Shady makes everyone else’s job easier. AP puts the rest of his offense out of a job.

  • Maggie

    Seems to be another example of 2 males each proclaiming “My d!!K is bigger than yours! So there!

    • cliff henny

      no, not really. just your warped view of sports, men, and well, just about everything in gerenal

      • Maggie

        If it isn’t who’s the “better” runner, it’s who has the biggest pickup truck, who shot the elk with the largest rack, who has the woman with the biggest rack, who can drive the fastest, who owns the largest lawn mower, who got the most drunk, etc., etc., etc. I have an ex-husband who was in the Navy an collected guns, a father, uncles, 3 sons, and spent some time in the trucking industry. My view is realistic, trying to avoid slurping large amounts of Koolaid. Sports are fun and it’s okay to root for a team or athlete. It’s wise to remember that for fans, it IS just a game, not some way to prop up our egos. To the athletes it is earning a pay cheque of course, but not us. Keep it real, don’t “they” say? Keeping it real. And I wasn’t going to mention how often you seem to write that you can’t understand why a player can’t play just because he smashed a woman in the face or threw beer bottles into a total female stranger’s face, etc., but I changed my mind.

        • cliff henny

          I read till you wrote ‘I have an ex’…shocker. you honestly sound awful. just read your ‘keeping it real rant’…now, slightly racist too

        • JofreyRice

          love the ex-husband stories!

          • NickS1

            It all makes sense now.

    • PhillySean

      Or two professionals who benefit from notoriety engaging in a bit of self promotion. This interpretation might not appeal to someone that wants to dismiss them as stupid males.

      • OldDocRoss

        In fairness, I love LeSean but there’s a reasonable amount of supporting evidence for anyone who wished to build a charge of “stupid male” against him.

        Agree with you on the self-promotion thing though. Pretty sure both guys know what they’re doing and are having some fun with it.

    • Joe from Easton

      Oh, and there’s never a case in today’s society of “my t!t$ are bigger than yours?”

      It goes both ways, Maggie. Don’t be so sexist.

      • OldDocRoss

        there’s never a case in today’s society of “my t!t$ are bigger than yours?”

        Not nearly enough cases, no. Or at least not nearly enough where I am called upon to adjudicate.

        • Joe from Easton

          Are you called upon often to adjudicate who has a bigger wang during male pissing contests?

          • OldDocRoss

            Well no, so it’s not all bad news.

          • Joe from Easton

            You had me worried for a second, Doc.

          • OldDocRoss

            It was just a sort of PSA. If two attractive ladies find themselves debating who is the more amply chested and are unable to resolve the situation, well, I’m there for them.

            Side note: the other day on this board we were discussing dimensional analysis and the correct calculation of light years. Today, boobs and wangs. It goes without saying I’m more proud of our work here today.

          • Joe from Easton

            You’re such a giver. We should nickname you J-Matthews Jr.

            Maybe tomorrow we can discuss the effect of boob/wang size on travel at light speed?

          • Andy124

            As you approach the speed of light, boobs get heavier and wangs get shorter. Doesn’t seem fair, does it?

          • OldDocRoss

            On the bright side, as you approach light speed the mass of either becomes infinite. I think. To be honest my memory of that stuff is ropey.

            Also, if a young lady is mocking the size of one’s wang a defence of “it’s mass is infinite once it gets up to speed!” is unlikely to diminish the mocking.

          • Andy124

            The good news is that relativistic length contraction could be used to help a very large man and a very small woman be… compatible. At least for an instant.

  • myeaglescantwin

    I’ve said that these two are incomparable as far as physical attributes and play style.

    but if you want to get right at it;
    AP is a beast. AP is the only threat on a team full of bums with no leadership.
    week in and week out, teams scheme specifically to stop AP. From 8 & 9 players in the box, to a permanent safety spy just to make the tackle 8 yds down the field.
    AP still runs for 1500.

    I love LeSean and think he is the shiftiest back since Barry San. But i don’t think he could sustain AP’s production in a run first system. I also don’t think that he could carry and entire franchise against 8 in the box defenses his entire career.

    One of the best backs in league history is being wasted on a terrible franchise. I was surprised when he resigned up there. Can u imagine him on Atlanta? New England? GB??

    &
    the numbers above discount all the passing plays. no blocks, no catches, no first down stats there, so . chuckem.

    • Joe from Easton

      You’re saying exactly what Shady is saying. He doesn’t have to be better at AP’s game than AP to be a better player than AP.

      I’m not saying I agree or disagree, but that they’re different players and in today’s league I think Shady is more valuable.

      • eneagled2

        wrong, they are saying that there are variables not being accounted for in the stats, like the team they are playing on. Which is pretty huge variable to take into account. McCoy is saying he is a more complete back. These are separate but valid points.

        • Joe from Easton

          I get the team argument, but we all say Shady is the closest to Barry since Barry, right? Barry carried a crap team better than any RB in history ever has. Who’s to say if you fed Shady 300+ carries a season that he wouldn’t be able to do the same? Same skill set, neither are bruising runners like AP, but neither took/take the beating that AP takes because hitting them square is like trying to shoot an arrow at a piece of hair.

          • eneagled2

            Sure, you make a valid point. For the reasons you just stated, it would be a coin flip between AP and Shady for a season, but I like Shady longterm…but, that doesn’t make your initial statement correct or make your arguments coherent. You are having 3 separate arguments at once or aren’t reading the comments you’re replying too or aren’t understanding them. Just re read everything and figure it out.

          • Joe from Easton

            I’m just responding as I go here, haha. Incoherent indeed. Long day at work.

      • NTT66

        Totally agree. And Chip’s system IS a run-first system, where LeSean proved he is not only explosive and awesome, but durable and versatile. AP is definitely a hell of a force, but his time as the consensus, undisputed “best” in the league is over, or at least drawing to an end. AP runs over guys, whereas most defenders cannot get a good hold on McCoy.
        If just looking at numbers, some of AP’s stats can be attributed to inflation, because he was all the team had in his 2000-yd season; likewise, LeSean was hampered by Andy’s insistence on “passing to set up the run.”

      • myeaglescantwin

        exactly.

    • myeaglescantwin

      I’ll go as far as to say it’s much like Mountain -vs- Viper.

      • JofreyRice

        I wouldn’t be totally shocked if Chip signed “the Mountain” to play DE. He’s some Icelandic strongman. Real life 6’9″, 400 pounds. Get him in there with Huls and the guy would be 8’2 and 700 pounds in a couple months. Would fit right in on the line.

        • NickS1

          He’d be the 5-tech AND the nose.

        • Reasonableeaglefan

          I heard he had a tryout before. I think it was in Minnesota

          • myeaglescantwin

            from what i remember, dude got beasted too. It was almost as bad as when Valesquez beat him into the mats.

            Shows you what fake steroid muscles get you.
            when you spend your life competing against and beating on people smaller than you, you’re in for a rude awakening when you meet someone that matches you.

        • myeaglescantwin

          dude, i watched that guy throw a washing machine 20+ ft.

          it’s insane how massive that dude is.
          When we were watching that man pop the guys head the other day, I said “why don’t we recruit some -World’sStrongestMen- for our DL.” hahaha

          of course agility & technique are what hold these guys back, but something can be said for DL throwing kegs over a 25ft’ wall

  • Jackhammer Lewis

    I did check the numbers & AP has had a career of only two more years than McCoy yet he has almost twice as many yards rushing & has scored more than twice as many TDs. The numbers don’t lie.

    • NickS1

      Probably a good thing that McCoy qualified his statement by saying over the last 3 years.

  • ray jay

    Do something in the postseason.

    BWest > Shady

  • Jeff Asay

    Just say this about AP: he’s careless with his junk. Fathering kids with multiple moms. Came out with the unfortunate death of one of his love children. No longer a fan of AP the person and wish he’d disappear from all forms of celebrity worship like the Wheaties Box. Goes without saying Shady isnt going to win any civic awards soon for some of his reported antics, but havent yet read about him with 6 kids by four mothers.

  • Scott J

    If I want a back who strictly runs, I’ll take Peterson. If I want a pass catching back, I’ll take Shady. They are both great backs that have different skill sets.

  • http://www.idonthaveawebsite.com theedevilsadvocate

    mccoy is the best hands down. screw peterson… he is a beast though but i got mccoys back for sure. eagles all day.