What They’re Saying About the Eagles

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Here’s another roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles.

Bucky Brooks of NFL.com gives the Eagles a B for their draft:

The Philadelphia Eagles captured the NFC East in Kelly’s first season, driven by an explosive collection of offensive talent on the perimeter. Of course, while the Eagles’ high-powered offense can win them a ton of regular-season games, the team needed to bring in some defensive playmakers to become legitimate NFC contenders. Thus, Kelly made it a point to add pass rushers (Smith and fifth-round pick Taylor Hart) while also snagging a couple of back-end defenders (fourth-rounder Jaylen Watkins and fifth-round choice Ed Reynolds) to upgrade a leaky secondary. On offense, Kelly drafted a pair of sure-handed pass catchers in Jordan Matthews (Round 2) and Josh Huff (Round 3), both of whom have the size and strength to play in the slot or on the perimeter in spread formations. Overall, the Eagles used their seven picks to address their key needs and upgrade their talent base, which is the goal of every decision-maker on draft day.

Gregg Easterbrook of ESPN.com thought the Eagles got snookered in the Isaac Sopoaga trade back in November. But he senses Kelly is starting to catch on:

The Nesharim gave a fifth-round choice for Darren Sproles, who was expected to get the carries that last season went to Bryce Brown. Then Philadelphia got at least a fourth-round pick from Buffalo for Brown. Since Sproles is a better player than Brown, the series of transactions raises the question, Why didn’t Buffalo just trade for Sproles? The Bills may have wanted Brown’s rookie contract, which is a league-minimum agreement with two years remaining. Regardless, the deals show Kelly and his staff are catching on to how to get the best of other teams in trades.

Todd McShay of ESPN.com has a 2015 mock out. He’s got the Eagles picking 27th and taking Mississippi State linebacker Benardrick McKinney:

McKinney possesses very good length for the linebacker position (he measures in at 6-5, 235), and he had a strong 2013 campaign (including a 1.5-sack game against Texas A&M and a 10-tackle game against Kentucky).

Andy Benoit of The MMQB offers his take on the Eagles’ draft:

It’s hard to see where Marcus Smith fits up front. Yes, soon-to-be 32-year-old Trent Cole might play fewer snaps going forward, but that’s where former first-rounder Brandon Graham comes in. And, though he’s more of a down lineman, 2012 second-rounder Vinny Curry has the explosive first step to be a part-time standup rusher. Smith’s role this fall could be to back up Connor Barwin, which means the Eagles would be getting less than 10 meaningful snaps per game from their first-rounder.

For the record, I disagree with a couple of Benoit’s points here. The organization has shown little confidence in Graham, and Curry put on weight last season, playing exclusively as a down lineman. The guess here is that Smith’s most significant snaps will come rotating with Cole at ROLB. We’ll obviously have more on his role in the coming weeks.


Chris Burke of SI.com handicaps the Defensive Rookie Of the Year race:

The strongest candidate from the remaining names has to be Marcus Smith. The Eagles took a gamble on him earlier than most people expected. But if Smith fits into the 3-4 attack the way the team hopes, double-digit sack production certainly is possible.

In his 2015 mock, Burke has the Eagles selecting Florida State DE Mario Edwards:

Especially stout against the run, Edwards finished last season with 9.5 tackles-for-loss and 3.5 sacks despite missing time with a hand injury. He’s really hard to move when teams want to head his direction. Edwards now stands at around 280 pounds (and 6-3), though he was above 300 before getting to Florida State. His NFL future may be as a 3-4 lineman.

Elliot Harrison of NFL.com has the Eagles ninth in his power rankings:

For who? For what? That was the feeling at Radio City Music Hall when outside linebacker Marcus Smith's name was called as the Eagles' pick at No. 26. No one anticipates him alligator-arming on his pass rush, and perhaps Trent Cole will be on a pitch count this year, but Marcus Smith in the first round? On another note, I spoke with receiver Jordan Matthews after Philly grabbed him in the second round. He's ready to get to work and totally stoked to tee it up for coach Chip Kelly.

SI.com's Doug Farrar identifies impact players for each NFC team. He singles out WR Jordan Matthews for the Eagles:

First-round pick Marcus Smith was a surprise as a pass-rusher, but when the Eagles selected Vanderbilt standout Jordan Matthews in the second round, it made all the sense in the world. Chip Kelly wants receivers who can beat man coverage in many different ways, and one of those ways is with screen passes . The Eagles led the NFL with 569 screen pass yards in 2013 per ESPN, and 44 of Matthews’ 112 catches in 2013 were screens. That tied with Sammy Watkins for the top spot. Kelly will use Matthews in the slot, which bends to another NFL trend of using larger targets (Matthews is 6-3, 212) as inside receivers. With DeSean Jackson out the door, Matthews should get a lot of targets wherever he lines up.

Mike Tanier of Sports On Earth assesses the Eagles' draft:

Proficient. The quiet key to this class may be Watkins. He could develop rapidly into a quality starting cornerback, making him an exceptional fourth-round value. Otherwise, Smith and Matthews are safe selections, Sproles provides a short-term boost and the Eagles did roughly what they had to do to prevent a Chip Kelly "the league has figured me out" sophomore swoon.

The latest on the Eagles' O-Line situation:

SI.com's Don Banks hands out offseason awards. He recognizes the Eagles and DeSean Jackson as the messiest break-up:

It wasn't quite the NFL's version of "conscious uncoupling,'' but the separation of the year definitely took place in Philadelphia, when second-year head coach Chip Kelly decided he could live without Jackson, the team's star receiver. There were a lot of layers to the story, but on the surface it's not every day that a defending division champion releases a 27-year-old, three-time Pro Bowl selection just months after his career-year (82 receptions, 1,332 yards, nine touchdowns). And especially given that Jackson's skillset seemed a perfect match for Kelly's brand of fast-break football.

Greg Gabriel of the National Football Post weighs in on the Eagles' draft:

In 2013, offense was not a problem for Philly, stopping the opponent’s offense was. In free agency the Eagles looked to upgrade their defense and also with their first round pick. Louisville’s Marcus Smith played defensive end in college, he will convert to outside linebacker in the NFL. He has ideal size and athleticism for that slot. Smith is primarily a pass rusher, he had 14.5 sacks in 2013. While many, including myself, thought that the first round was a little high for Smith, if he can provide a pass rush for the Eagles, he was worth the pick.

The Eagles are ninth in ESPN.com's power rankings:

The offense is looking pretty good, but is drafting fourth-rounder Jaylen Watkins enough to improve the pass defense? Philly allowed a league-worst 289.8 pass yards per game last year.

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  • Tikkit

    I LOVE mock drafts and power rankings this time of year! So relevant!

    • oreofestar

      I mean as long as Almighty Mariota is 1st who cares

      • EagleDuck

        We prefer Super Mariota.

  • Corey Dawson

    At least these opinions tell me who’s credible. Bucky Brooks saying the Eagles got Hart for his poass rush really makes me think he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    • Ark87

      He doesn’t, he just glanced at the list of players we got in the draft, approximated impact by the round taken, measured it all against the 2013 Eagle’s deficiencies and slapped a grade on it. Hart is labeled DE and he probably assumed he was a 4-3 tweener that we intend to convert rather than a 2-gap 3-4 DE. He’s likely has no idea who Hart even is.

      • Corey Dawson

        Yeah, that what I figured too. The NFL.com guys need to cover the whole league and end up knowing none of the details because of it, at least not when it comes to the draft. They’re OK (not even good) for in season stuff. That’s why I tend to stick to the Philly specific guys and the ESPN division bloggers. They cover few enough angles that they can get down into the details. Always looking for more guys that know what they’re talking about though.

        • Ark87

          exactly right. I’m the same. There are some people with good eyes out there on that national level (for scouting/tape watching etc), or have great experience and general knowledge of football. But none put in the time or effort to understand all the nuance at the micro level of every team in the nfl. So when it comes to the quest to better understand a specific team, you’re absolutely right, it’s best to stick to the local stuff (well not literally in the geographic sense, but you know what I mean, Eagles focused writers).

          • PaoliBulldog

            I follow Greg Cosell because he breaks down game tape and analyzes players in a way even I can understand. And he doesn’t grandstand. All steak, no sizzle.

          • Ark87

            absolutely agree. That last line is perfect. He isn’t made for TV, he’s made it as far as he has on just being legit.

      • James Hathaway

        It’s amazing to hear the people on 97.5, the radio station that hosts Tim and SK weekly, is completely inept when it comes to legitimate football analysis. I generally like Joe Decamara, but if he screams about the defense being god awful due to it being 30th against the pass one more time, I’m going to have a seizure.

        We were ranked poorly in yards because, we don’t care about yards or time of possession. Everyone here that is a regular poster understands that. We got gouged in YAC because our safeties did a pretty good job of keeping plays in FRONT of them, not behind them. The only game in the back half of the year that we got gouged in YAC, including the Saints playoff game (Where we SHUT DOWN JIMMY GRAHAM, FYI) was that fluke Vikings game where Matt Cassell looked like Nick Foles circa Oakland.

        Stop picking on the safeties and corners. They are solid, but unspectacular. Get a better pass rush. Improve defense on third down. Get some defensive TD’s this year (Looking at you, Kendricks vs. Brandon Jacobs in a foot race).

        END. RANT.

        • Richard Colton

          Solid Rant. B+/A-

          Tough to argue with the numbers though. Eagles D gave up a lot of points and a lot of yards. What they lack most, IMO, is dynamic playmakers at all three levels. Maybe Smith & Watkins can be those guys. Maybe Kendricks can live up to Collingsworths’ expectations (nice visual by you – btw).

          • James Hathaway

            Oh, yeah. We’re on the same page. I’m not trying to make it seem like they can’t upgrade. They can. It’s just, these radio hosts and national people are just looking at stats and aren’t actually analyzing the way the game plays out. No one takes into account the additional TOP against the Eagles. It’s insane. I’d love a top flight pass rusher, a big fat hog of an NT, and a premier corner and safety. I’d also love a more athletic ILB 2 to pair with Kendricks. Plenty of areas that we can upgrade. Just stop focusing on the yards and saying we have a terrible defense because, on paper, we were 30 of 32.

  • JosephR2225

    Too many draft voices in the media. We need to appoint a sports czar or a licensure board to license specific people who show some inkling that they have any idea what they are talking about. Everybody else is banned from talking about the draft.

    • DoctorRick

      Especially Todd McShay. When I see his picks I either skip past or conclude the exact opposite and I will most likely be right.

      • cliff henny

        except he does have eagles winning a playoff game next year, so, i’ll agree with that

        • DoctorRick

          I’ll give you that! He better not be placing a curse.

    • Mark F

      Settle down, Big Brother.

      • JosephR2225

        Ignorance is Strength.

        • Richard Colton

          24/7 becoming too literary

  • Woody7236

    Eagles are building a team. That bodes well for the future. Smart leaders, strong back ups, deep roster, special team assassins, big and fast players. They have a plan and are not shooting from the hip. Fly eagles fly!

  • JAMIN67

    “Soon-to-be 32-year-old Trent Cole might play fewer snaps going forward, but that’s where former first-rounder Brandon Graham comes in”.

    With all due respect to Andy Benoit…even my 10 year old neighbor realizes that BG isn’t a fit for this D. Andy may actually want to watch some Eagles games before making further comments. Just sayin’.

    • myeaglescantwin

      why so much respect fo Benoit?

      he’s no canadian crippler. more like canadian bacon.

      • JAMIN67

        Please don’t compare Benoit to canadian bacon. That’s an insult to Canadian bacon.

        • myeaglescantwin

          i apologize for my blasphemy.

          • Richard Colton

            insult Canadian bacon all you want. This is a pork roll town.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Hahaha…I always test diners by asking for two things… Pork roll & scrapple.

          • WorldPh_ingChamps

            Two things that I can’t get being misplaced in Florida….

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Well then they fail the test. I do admit that I love the “huh?” looks I get in some places.

          • JAMIN67

            You had me at scrapple.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Man, don’t get me started. I live in the Baltimore area now (bout 30 mins N) & while I can find it, they absolutely cannot cook it right to my liking. I like it done just right. Slightly crisp on the outside, mushy inside. Instead I get an over deep fried brick. I mean I could literally go out and play hockey with it as a puck. Can’t even buy it in supers down here.

          • JAMIN67

            Doesn’t surprise me. I live in Jersey, and there are some places even here that can’t do it right. The trick is you gotta flour it…

          • WorldPh_ingChamps

            The one and only thing that I forgot after living in FL all these years, the first restaurant I went in visiting in Philly, I ordered a sweet tea…..I got the “huh?” look….that is the only thing the south has over anything back home….

          • myeaglescantwin

            Taylor Ham ! haha

      • JoeyJoeJoeJuniorShabadoo

        SILENT BUT VIOLENT, THE CANADIAN CRIPPLER ANDY BENOIT IS READY TO TAKE THE SPORTS REPORTING FEDERATION HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP FROM SKIP BAYLESS

        • myeaglescantwin

          for the “light in the loafers” title belt

  • Chut

    Thanks so much for these snippets! I love getting all of the different national perspectives all in one blog post.

  • Tom W

    Wow really starting to realiZe what a waste the national sports media is, and that even our local sports media really no little about the draft before the picks are made. I have to whole heartledly disagree with didinger’a assessment that he would’ve taken Demarcus Lawrence over Marcus smith (or atleast that is what no nothing gonzo chirped). Demarcus would have been a typical Andy Reid pick … Conversion tweeter player hard to project like gocong Bryan smith and marsh. He also has serious red flags w numerous suspensions. He also was never asked to cover. Sorry didi, a great historian, but after his Brandon pettigrew and Felix jones love, and now Demarcus, getting a bit tough to take him seriously on the draft … Too bad the radio dopes do

    • PaoliBulldog

      I read ESPN.com out of habit, but this site is all I need for Eagles coverage.

      • Anebriated

        I wont even watch ESPN. Can find everything there in other places easily.

  • ochospantalones

    Wow, that Benoit analysis is spectacularly dumb. There is no room for Smith because of three guys who probably won’t be on the team in 2015?

    • JAMIN67

      But…but…Benoit knows a friend of a friend, whose sister has a source that told him that.

  • myeaglescantwin

    i don’t know why anyone really puts stock into national reporters. These guys are basically watching sportscenter for leads, then they blow up the reporting with “alledgedly” and “un-named sources” and various other “what if’s”.

    This time last year, the entire nation had us trading Foles, and drafting / signing any other running QBs we could get our hands on. A year after Chip released the hounds with his pocket QB, we have already added two more pocket QBs. Hell, the running Qb we signed as an UDFA was being converted to SS. .

    Just saying, take the national media & in most cases everyone else not writing for this website with a grain of salt. No one has any idea how Chipper is going to attack the NFL or the reasoning behind the moves he made.

    For instance, this whole DeSean fiasco. Bottom line is, work ethic and attitude are more important to Chip than anything. These reporters are only looking at a season of stats and the paper,. and the game ain’t played on paper.

    • Philip Soloninka

      Work ethic, attitude, INTELLIGENCE, and versatility… not sure where DJ fell on this, but I can venture to guess

    • Anebriated

      Very well said. Chip doesn’t like our traditional labels but that’s how the national media sells their stories.

  • kburns88

    Gregggggg Easterbrook is the worssssst

    • JofreyRice

      it’s easy to pile on here, but his paragraph is absurd. Does Darren Sproles look like a feature back to anyone, at 31 years old? You don’t trade for a gadget player, if you want a guy to possibly be your main workhorse. I’m not keen on Brown, but he has that ability. Sproles really never did.

      • http://batman-news.com KobraKai7474

        He would have made a better case for the trade being a steal (and I do believe it was a steal for the Eagles) by comparing Bryce Brown’s 2012 numbers to his 2013 numbers. In 2012, Bryce Brown looked like a future star. In 2013, he looked like… well… the opposite of a future star. At the same time, Chris Polk looked fairly impressive in 2013 (or at least better than Brown did) AND Sproles was added to play the occasional series or downs that Brown did last year. THAT is why this was a steal for the Eagles. They gave away a spare part that they didn’t need and who appears to be on a downward trajectory and got a 4th round pick for him.

        • Uncle Wonder

          Why exactly did they get rid of Brown during a draft where they didn’t draft a replacement? We all know Sproles isn’t running btwn the tackles, and this is supposedly an offense predicated on the run game. Are they really that high on Polk? If Shady goes down I’m afraid of what could happen.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            We need an insurance policy for our insurance policy…

          • sprawl

            The reason is that if there was a guy we could’ve drafted to replace Brown then Buffalo would’ve just grabbed him instead of potentially giving up a 3rd round pick for a guy who had almost no impact in the 2013 season.

      • stamtown

        same, the fallacy in the logic of that paragraph blew my mind. Easterbrook has mastered the art of troll sports journalism

      • Richard Colton

        God forbid, but if Shady ever went down for an extended period of time, Sproles wouldn’t be picking up his carries. I imagine it would be Polk? or the Welshman?

        • JofreyRice

          that’s my guess. Or Tucker. That’s why I was espousing the idea of another back in the third or 4th.

          • Richard Colton

            We talked about the possibility of Tre Mason as a surprise 3rd round pick. I wonder if he had slipped a few more picks to #83 or #86 – maybe we would have taken him.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            My thing is, for a team heavily dependent on the success of the run, they’re being really daring in not taking out a viable insurance policy behind Shady. Right now we’re sitting on short “term” policies, which never seem to pay out. Two drafts, two offseasons. All we’ve got to show for it are a couple of guys that are long shots to make the roster and a guy left over from the last regime with bad shoulders (I’m talking behind Shady, of course). I honestly don’t even really count Sproles.

    • http://batman-news.com KobraKai7474

      I think he is great…. as long as he is talking about somebody other than the Eagles. When he talks about the Eagles, he annoys me to no end.

  • JCConley

    Why do people keep saying that Smith didn’t play 3-4 OLB in college? He played standing throughout his entire senior year…

    • Anebriated

      Because people don’t watch their own film. They read a few mock drafts, maybe an article that brings him up in passing and suddenly they are experts.

      • PaoliBulldog

        Hell, I don’t watch film, and I knew that Smith was an OLB.

        I think the immediacy of the Internet has killed copy editing and source checking.

        • Anebriated

          Much validity to that statement. It has become a society that is intent on instant gratification. Many reporters don’t care if they are wrong because they wont lose their job for it, they just want to be the first with the story. If they throw enough s*** against the wall eventually something will stick and their brand goes up.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Because his position listed at Louisville was DE, when in fact he played DE, OLB, DT.…AND he spent time on both sides. A lot of people label that as Charlie Strong “needing” to move Marcus for him to be effective. I see it as utilizing a versatile weapon and forcing the opposing offense to look for him.

      • Anebriated

        You take your logic and get out of here. We don’t take kindly to your kind…

        this is exactly why Chip and Billy Davis love him. He is capable of playing that Predator role from any of the LB positions.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I’ll take that as a compliment, thank you.

          • Anebriated

            that’s how it was intended.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That’s why I said thank you. Was also fending off my bulldog in Andy before he pounced on you…lol.

          • Anebriated

            You know how it is with the internet, sarcasm and dry humor…

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That’s totally why I include an “lol” or smiley face. Unless my intent is to keep em guessing.

  • Philonious

    I am really getting tired of the “…drafted a little high…”, we get it, you didn’t mock Smith in the first and you are infallible, so now you have to always qualify it. They had a need and addressed it with a quality player that was probably gone early in the 2nd. What were they supposed to do?” Well, everyone we wanted at 22 is gone, we need OLB badly, but Smith only has an early 2nd grade, so we will pass on him. Too bad we aren’t picking early in the 2nd, or we could take him, but since we’re picking late in the 1st, we’ll have to pass.”

  • Anebriated

    It saddens me that the demand for mock drafts is so high that they already have 2015 versions out.

    • JosephR2225

      Who do you think will take Lane Johnson’s kid in 2026? I saw a photo of him last year. Huge hands for a baby.

      • Anebriated

        If he ends up as a offensive linemen like his dad I’ll put my early money on Big Red. He loves those linemen with NFL bloodlines.

      • TNA

        I was thinking the exact same thing. Future QB. Of course by 2026, prototype QBs will be 7’0″, run 3.5, 64″ vertical, 15″ hands.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      6’5″ – 235lbs? That’s svelt. Might want to start adding more weight now.

      • Anebriated

        Wonder if dad will put him on Chip’s protein shake plan.

    • sprawl

      I love that they’re already picking Defensive Rookie of the Year

  • http://eaglemaniacal.com EAGLE MANIACAL

    So how much of this would be affected by starting Darren Sproles over LeSean McCoy, as one NFL.com reporter hinted at?

    Check it out: http://eaglemaniacal.com/2014/05/16/darren-sproles-to-unseat-lesean-mccoy/

    • cliff henny

      who hinted sproles over mccoy…so i can make sure i never read anything by someone that stupid/trolling again.

      • http://eaglemaniacal.com EAGLE MANIACAL

        That would be NFL.com’s Chris Wesseling. The link to it is in my post.

        • JofreyRice

          spam

          • Jerry Pomroy

            He’s just trying to get readers. He’s not linking you to a marginal website. It’s just a blog post through WordPress.com. I use it when I write for khandyman sports.

          • JofreyRice

            The guy links to his blog in just about every post he makes. I’ve seen him post several times here. “Wow, that’s really interesting…to hear more about that, follow the jump” or some such sh!t. Seems dishonest and pushy.

          • cliff henny

            plus, it’s not really all that informative. just sums up an article in a different packaging. though i only looked at first couple he posted.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That’s why I don’t link my work. Although it’s been a while since I’ve written anything. Been tough with a newborn & I’m not the type to just type something up in 15 mins and hit post. I have to proofread my work a couple times and edit as necessary first.

          • Richard Colton

            I’ve actually clicked on the guy’s link a few times. never found anything interesting, just warmed over stuff from other places. And hey since we’re talking Eagles – say what you have to say here.
            why don’t you post your blog link Jerry? I’d like to check it out.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            It’s not my personal blog. I write for khandyman.com. But I haven’t written anything since early last season. Had to put it on the side burner while looking for work. Then one thing led to another with me coaching my youngest boys soccer team, still devoting a lot of time to the job search and now I have a newborn baby girl. Still haven’t found work & have backed off the job searching as it’s been daunting & depressing quite honestly. But I will be contributing again soon, I assure you. If you’re interested in checking out my previous “stuff”, you can search through the archives on the site.

          • Anebriated

            I’ll definitely be taking some time to read your past work as well.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Thanks. You could also find links in my twitter feed history. @JerryP2375

            I’m open to constructive criticism as well. I love it. It builds character & shatters dreams all at once… lol.

          • JofreyRice

            yeah, but another big difference is that you’re not here to promote that other thing. You’re here to discuss the Eagles. Share opinions, thoughts, analysis. This guy puts a cursory sentence or two together and then shills his website.

    • Anebriated

      They also show 3 starting WRs so its probably there to show third down back status. Also of course they show 3 starting CBs, nickel corners might as well be starters in todays NFL. You got me excited about a new blog to read(because I’ll read just about anything Eagles related) and then lost me in the very same article.

      • http://eaglemaniacal.com EAGLE MANIACAL

        Can’t win ‘em all.

  • IG:blkboyflyy

    Most analyst don’t speculate to be correct. They do it for tv. Whether wrong or right they still are on espn they still have columns however wrong they are still get some kind of recognition and they boost the ratings of espn, the draft & football overall. Their job is done.

    • aub32

      Colin Herd. There’s no way he can believe some of the crap he spews. Yet he says things that keep people calling into his radio show, and if someone makes a valid point you can just hang up on them before they completely destroy your farce of an argument.

      • IG:blkboyflyy

        I’m sure he doesn’t believe what he says but most people who really watch football college and pros, spend countless hours watching tape and making their own mock drafts would never take anything he says seriously. Which is why some of us spend time talking about how utterly insane or inept most media “professionals” are.

        • aub32

          Agreed. I had to stop listening to his show ages ago. Even his media peers have called him out on not believing his own points. I wonder if ESPN and NFLN will ever put real football content on tv just to see how it rates. I’m sure people would tune in to a breakdown of the top WRs and CBs based on the All 22 footage and what we couldn’t see in games. Stop with the Michael Sam reality show and tell me what defensive scheme changes might be made to adjust to Kelly’s offense.

          • IG:blkboyflyy

            I’d love to see some research on how defenses adjust to Kelly’s ‘O’ in his sophomore year as HC. I think everyone is growing tiresome of the “lack of knowledge/effort” analyst. I think that’s why we’re seeing more players than ever stepping into the spotlight and giving input. Ray Lewis was a Absolutely welcome change to the NFL and now become analyst I love when he’s on. The passion in his point of view is bold and refreshing.

          • aub32

            Very true, but there are some former players that are just as dumb and watch absolutely nothing but the highlights before making a point, *cough* Heath Evans. Then there’s guy like Bruschi who still has to tow the company line as a former Pat. I loved when Jaws completely ignored the question about how big of a moment it was that Sam was drafted and just went on to talk about how he’s an average to below average talent. Bruschi had a chance to follow up but instead went on to say how great the kid is and how important it is to everyone that blah blah blah blah blah.

          • IG:blkboyflyy

            Absolutely, I feel that the best ex-players fit for the job are previous QB,Safteys, & LBs. But it’s like this just how some of those newly drafted players need to be coached on speaking to the media those same media personnel need to be coached on how to be media members and correctly handle situations that occur on air or in reports they submit.

  • cliff henny

    good, glad they sent Colledge packing. maybe Kelly isnt as down on backup O-line guys as we think.

    • guest

      What do you mean “good?” You don’t consider a guy with years of starting experience an upgrade over Julian Vandervelde?

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Cliff just really has more faith in our OL than others.

        • cliff henny

          only thing i know about JV, is he is horrible follow on twitter. guy hasnt played in 2 calender years. they brought a guy in, mid level on downside of career and saw that tobin kelly bamiro molk for youth and price are better options. that’s good. if guys who will be out of league in 2 yrs are better options, yeah, i’m bit worried.

    • guest

      And they’re clearly not happy with their backup O-line guys. Howie said they were going to draft one in the 3rd round

      • IG:blkboyflyy

        I don’t believe they are unhappy. They are a business and believe they should take every opportunity to upgrade every position. Just because someone has adequate work ethic is that supposed to keep you from finding a cheaper younger and more talented replacement?

        • cliff henny

          no one has seen any of these backups play since ’12, some never. i know nothing about Molk Tobin, Bamiro d-kelly’s back and Vendervelde. they could all be absolute garbage, or fine. no one outside kelly and stoutland have any idea at all. fact that we kind of know what Colledge is, journeyman end of career guy isnt as good as what they have inhouse.

          • IG:blkboyflyy

            Well, obviously if they let these guys they bring into camp go over some of our singed backups they must not have shown much or they would be cut. I want depth but I’m not stressing it simply because I know servicable backups are around.

    • http://batman-news.com KobraKai7474

      I, too, am a firm believer in developing O-linemen yourself. Sure, every team needs an Allen Barbre, who’s played a few years and can play most positions along the line in a pinch. And, yes, if you have some injuries (like the Eagles did in 2012), it makes sense to grab a mediocre vet or two off the streets, but you have to remember that guys like that are dime-a-dozen. Even, in season, you can usually find one or two willing to take a league minimum contract and who, after a week or two to get in shape and learn the line calls, can do a decent job for you for 6 or 8 games. However, when the team is relatively healthy, guys like that only clog up the roster. As many slots as possible should go to younger guys with real upside who, hopefully, can work their way into becoming real players…. and, the ones who don’t develop, you cut and bring in a few more young guys with upside next year.

  • Scott J

    Since Smith was drafted in the 1st, round he’s going to stink. But if we drafted him in the 2nd or 3rd, he would be a great player. I guess that’s what happened to Jaiquawn Jarrett. We drafted him in the 2nd round, but if we drafted him in the 5th, he would be a pro-bowler. It’s amazing how that works.

    • Anebriated

      Jarrett was put in position to fail by the DC and the fact that we reached(this pick was a legitimate reach) for him increased the fans scrutiny.

  • borntosuffer

    In what world do Brown and Sproles fill the same need?

    • aub32

      In a world where every player playing the same position is rated on a scale based on the grades of their individual abilities, regardless of scheme….so Madden.

      • borntosuffer

        Nice.

    • http://batman-news.com KobraKai7474

      In a world where the Eagles need a guy who can play a couple of downs and give Shady a rest WITHOUT seeing a significant dip in the offense’s ability to move the football. Yes, Sproles and Brown are two completely different football players with completely different skill sets, but the fact remains that the Eagles offense mostly sputtered with Brown in the game last year, and there is a reasonable expectation that it won’t miss a beat with Sproles on the field this year so, for better or worse, Sproles IS taking Brown’s role on the team. Time will tell if he is better at it than Brown was, but, if we are being honest, it won’t take all that much for Sproles to top what Brown did last year.

      • aub32

        I think you missed the point of the question. I’m thinking he was talking about why the Bills didn’t just trade for Sproles instead of Brown. Which is a dumb as hell question considering the Bills didn’t even have the conditional 3rd/4th when Sproles was available.
        ….
        I agree Sproles does more for us than Brown would when Shady is healthy. Sproles is a really good compliment/gadget player. Though, I will argue that Brown has more potential at being a feature back.

        • southy

          I think we can all agree Easterbrook isn’t so great at thinking things through unless it relates to Star Trek.

      • borntosuffer

        My comment was primarily in response as to why the Bills didn’t take Sproles instead of Brown. As you state, I can’t imagine two running backs with more different skill sets. Maybe the Bills were looking for someone to run the ball, not catch the ball out of the backfield. It as if Easterbrook thinks, “Hey, they can get Sproles and completely change what they were planning to do on offense.”

  • aub32

    I wonder is ESPN has editors. You would think someone would read over the ” is drafting fourth-rounder Jaylen Watkins enough” comment and say, wait they did address safety and CB depth in FA. Also, the grabbed a pass rusher with their first pick. Improved pass rush = improved pass defense. How hard is that?

    • IG:blkboyflyy

      As much sense as that makes to you and I who would actually tell them to rewrite their report acknowledging the other picks. That’s something (s)he should realize. Shows just how much effort exerted on their simple columns

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Maybe they’re just procrastinators and wait till last minute to spew their junk. Or they’re up against tight deadlines and don’t have the time to put in actual research.

      I know that I always try to incorporate research, logic and maybe a little propaganda (depending on situation/topic of course) just to get people thinking outside the box.

  • Uncle Wonder

    Lol…why does everybody complain weekly about this segment? You’re a fool if you expect ANYBODY to be able predict who teams will pick in a draft. The purpose of mocks is to start a conversation, sheesh. Case in point, not a person here woulda thought the Eagles would go Smith in the 1st. Any guess is good as any other, smh.

    • Richard Colton

      yeah. trying to mock a player to a team 12 months out is like trying to handicap the presidential election in 2014. infinite variables. it’s just fun, and we read them. no real value.

      • Uncle Wonder

        Not just a year out but even in the days leading up to the draft…ppl be in here gettin their BP high cuz somebody at ‘SuchAndSuch.com’ mocked a pick that makes no sense to them and ‘how does he even still have a job?’ Lol, who cares? Its for fun. Was their mock even close to perfect?

        • Richard Colton

          suchandsuch.com is way underrated as a website

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Umm, I think I was the only one here hoping they traded back and took Smith late first. Clearly didn’t see him lasting until 54 and was a better option for us than Attaochu. With the WR class being deep and the 3-4 OLB prospects not, I figured 2nd rd would be a very good spot for WR. I even thought trading up in 2nd would be likely. Thought it was unlikely all this happened, but hope reigned true. For me anyway.

      • Uncle Wonder

        I woulda been happy trading down a 2nd time and then drafting two pass rushers in a row…if WR was so deep they coulda waited til the 3rd…or so i thought at the time lol. there ended up bein a massive run on WR in the 2nd.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          No BS I was dancing in my living room. Not just because we got Smith, but because my exact scenario played out with the same exact players being taken. I felt like a kindred spirit with a sixth sense. Now if only I could have that same luck with placing some Vegas bets… Yeah that’s more than unlikely… lol.

    • EaglefaninAZ

      Yup. Nothing else to discuss whatsoever.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    I like that Sheil put his .02 in re: Benoit’s ridiculousness. That guy is Clueless.

    • EaglefaninAZ

      Fiftyseventeen upvotes.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Hope those were for Sheil…

        • EaglefaninAZ

          He gets them for his comments. You get ‘em for being more blunt than Sheil.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    The Packers are giving Lyerla a shot…

    • IAteLunchToday

      I see what you did there…

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Hahaha, that actually wasn’t my intent this time. The … was just because I didn’t know any details outside of that yet. Plus didn’t he snort? I dunno¿? Time’s yours… lol.

  • Uncle Wonder

    In regards to next years offseason, I anticipate our needs to be (in order of urgency): ILB, G, OLB, RB, OT. This assumes that all current variables remain constant through this season…feel free to downvote me as many times as you want lol.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      “feel free to downvote me as many times as you want”- I’m trying, but nothing is happening… lol.

      But seriously, I’d probably put RB over OLB as of right now. I also noticed you didn’t put any secondary need there. I concur, because I have this feeling that “the other Watkins” will become a player.

      • Uncle Wonder

        I left secondary out cuz they got into that position at a 45 degree angle this offseason lol. Jenkins, Carroll, Watkins, Allen resigned. if we have to go back to that well that will mean everything backfired. I could see RB being ahead of OLB cuz we at least have bodies at OLB right now. But I imagine either Cole or Graham will be gone nxt yr if not both.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I like that line… Got into that position at a 45° angle.

  • Token

    It would be awesome if Smith could contribute like 7 sacks let alone double digits.

    I feel like many arent factoring in the very real possibility that Cole, Ryans and Herremans all lose yet another step this year. So Smith could get a legit chance to start halfway through the year IMO. Hopefully Goode can progress some more. And I really dont know what to think about out Oline depth.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Idk what homer thinks they won’t take a step back. I think that is the expectation for anybody who knows whats goin on. I think they all will be serviceable this year though, barring injuries. They are stop gaps til Chip can turn over the roster the way he wants.

    • Richard Colton

      not to mention injuries – we were very fortunate in that department last year after Maclin in mini-camp.

      Regarding O-line. I’m not really surprised that they didn’t address the position last week. Other than maybe Su’a Filo at #26 – there really wasn’t an Oline pick that made sense. I’m thinking they know something about Bamiro and Kelly that we don’t. ILB was more surprising. Someone mentioned it last week, but its possible we might see Smith/Barwin/Kendricks/Graham as the starting LBs at some point. What do you think?

      • Uncle Wonder

        Which side does Graham play in that scenario? Idk how i feel about Graham or Smith in coverage this year.

        • cliff henny

          should feel same about graham in coverage in ’14 as you did in ’13, extremely nervouse (though he did make nice play on swing pass in Dallas or NO game). Smith, should feel pretty good, guy looked really smooth moving with TEs in films i saw.

          • Uncle Wonder

            So in that scenario Graham is your primary rusher and Smith your coverage guy? Idt that is ideal either. Would only happen this year if there are injuries though. Stop gap players are just that.

          • cliff henny

            dont see eagles even considering Graham. Eagles dont want primary and cover guy tags. that’s what they are trying to get away from. want teams to not know who’s coming and who’s covering. playing graham defeats whole purpose, unless as DE in sub-package, but rather have Cole

          • Uncle Wonder

            Well…i think everyone knows the clock is ticking on Cole…he wont be back nxt yr without a contract restructure, if not a cut and resign. We might as well find out wht we hv in Graham before we let him walk…if anything. Idk if he has ever REALLY had a chance. I would hate to see him leave and beast for another team. I will never forget Derrick Burgess, smh.

          • cliff henny

            get your point, but i’dsay they found out what they needed last year, hence draftng smith. they need to let BG go to 4-3 team. sure he’ll have more success than philly, he’s not a scheme fit here.

          • Uncle Wonder

            Yeah i guess…just ashame. Casualty of a regime change…like DeSean.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Let him go after this year. Play him in sub packages, get some sacks, pressures and then get a 4th rounder as compensation pick. Like I’ve been saying…seems the league office is handing out better value than the 31 other GMs.

          • Anebriated

            Agreed. Packers and Ravens have been doing a very good job using the compensatory picks to their advantage.

          • cliff henny

            4th rdr? honestly i know very little about comp picks. Howie seems to sign enough guys with batting average approach to kill this strategy.

          • Uncle Wonder

            I think we see less and less of the batting average approach as the roster gets turned over into Chip’s image and the team has more success. Last two yrs there have just been too many holes to pump all our resources into 1 or 2 spots…if we go deep in the playoffs this year though and head closer to the ‘one player away’ spot, i think we may go all in.

          • Anebriated

            I would disagree. Chip has constantly preached competition and the batting average approach is perfect for that. We will definitely move to get a player that Chip/Howie really want but I don’t think they will lose sight of the big picture approach they have taken so far.

          • Uncle Wonder

            The real question is what position(s) are invaluable to CKs scheme? We were all clamoring for a stud S last yr and we didnt get one, but it doesnt sm that is a position BD wants to build his D around. So what premium position would CK gladly throw money at if there is a need? This coming season I expect a lot of resources to go to extensions for our current players but what about the general case?

          • Andy124

            OL, TE, QB, LB
            Just spitballing here. No particular order either.

            Also, didn’t limit to D.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I don’t know how it works either. I just look at the compensation for said players lost. There are teams like Ozzie’s Ravens, where they just ride players out and pile up the late mid, to late rd comp picks. You can’t trade em but you can trade your original picks.

          • cliff henny

            i know it some formula having to due with playing time vs salary and it’s cumlative. so if they lose BG, basically a backup OLB and sign someone else backup safety, basically cancel each other out.

          • Richard Colton

            it really isn’t ideal at all. Problem is, they’re paper thin at ILB. I don’t like Goode, Knott or Clay’s little brother. Barwin is a guy I think you could kick inside. Smith’s versatility makes him a plus at LOLB, and we know Graham can rush the passer.

            Maybe the DE to OLB conversion is like coming back from an ACL. It takes two years. Am I grasping at straws?

          • Uncle Wonder

            Maybe on 3rd down we could see such a thing. The fact we even have to come up with these weird mismatched combos speaks to the dearth of talent we have at LB right now.

          • cliff henny

            hopefully eagles have equal success on getting teams into 3rd and long, being able to play 4-2 or 3-3 5′s, therefore getting off field, less snaps, and arent so many GD snaps for Ryans and Cole.
            .
            though Goode look pretty solid, half decent playing for MK. they do seem high on Knott. canhe play in preseason?

          • Warhound

            I think that we might see some 2-3-6 with 3 safeties and the 3 most versatile LBers – Kendrx, Brwn and Smith. As Unk’ Wndr says this is ’cause of being thin at LBer.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I literally just read that and said “Brown? Who’s Brown?” Duh, Brwn = Barwin.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Swizzle sticks maybe…lol. But if it was necessary, I do see your point. Get your best players on the field, instead of resorting to your bench.

      • cliff henny

        not sure this year, but who knows next. dont see why Barwin cant kick inside, and Howie has brought up Long about 8 times, so he’s definitely a guy to keep an eye on. cant see graham in any scenario, doubt he even makes team at this point. by moving Jax, Eagles are flush with money, his extra 1.5m dead means nothing.

        • Uncle Wonder

          But why cut him though. We know he at least has some PR ability…which they need. Mayb there is still hope a deal gets done for Dion and a pick.

          • cliff henny

            well, PFF says he does, but i didnt see a whole lot. and if he couldnt get on field last year, when they had 5th yr extension decision looming and everyone knowing Cole is on last legs with team, plus getting Smith, doubt he’s getting PT this year.
            .
            i think his trade value is darn near nothing. but, hey, i said same about Brown, and he got a 4th. i’d call Buffalo up, Howie seems to crush whoever’s in charge up there

          • Richard Colton

            wow. Graham getting cut would be something – we get very thin at OLB if that happens.

          • cliff henny

            no thinner than last year. guy like Long, Kaddu Braham, someone has to step up. maybe Casey Ma…..

          • JAMIN67

            Bite your tongue.

          • Richard Colton

            he knew better than to finish that sentence. Problem is – Cliff is right – casey was one of our top OLB subs last year.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Donald Trump??

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing Smith be the primary backup at both OLB spots early on this year & also in on sub packages. Get him going and acclimated ASAP.

        As for the proposed LB corps. Ehh. I think you’re underutilizing Smith on the strong side. He brings more value having more opportunities to bring down the QB, unless they’re looking to front side rush more. But even still, his greatest asset is his pass rushing ability and it’s also the area of his greatest upside. I can see flipping him to the left side here and there, but he was selected in the first rd to kill QBs first and foremost.

    • James Hathaway

      Jordan Matthews is reminding more and more of a Roddy White type player. If we can get that out of him, I think this offense is going to be even specialierest.

      • Warhound

        More gooder?

        • Andy124

          the gooderest

        • Maggie

          You speak it the good Anglish

      • BrettConnolly

        Josh Huff is like Marshawn Lynch meets Tavon Austin. I can’t wait to see him develop into a star.

    • cliff henny

      if Smith can give both Cole and Barwin breaks, allow for little more disguise and free up MK and Ryans, hopefully LB group as a whole gets more. like WR and yards/tds, dont care who, just get’em

  • southy

    Hate to keep beating this drum, but Smith is NOT primarily a pass rusher. The reason he was worth a 1st rd choice for us was because he is an excellent coverage backer, strong in contain and against the run, and (at 14.5 sacks on the season) a pretty passable if not really good pass rusher. You won’t measure the guy by his sack total in the NFL – our scheme is ideally predicated on blitzing by any of the 4 LBs, and we need OLBs with the versatility to cover when they’re not coming.

  • EaglefaninAZ

    Yay. Mock drafts. These guys have no life whatsoever. “Gee, I should do a 2015 mock. Everyone else is doing it”. Oy vey. Mental pygmys.

  • heemy224

    Even national guys think Mathews can do know wrong!

    I hear he saved a kitten who saved a kid from a dog!

    BTW JM measurements are almost exactly the measurements of LarryFitz but Matthews is slightly faster. Did we just get a fast Larry Fitzgerald to play the slot? Offense will be dangerous!

    • NickS1

      Fitz’s hands are significantly better. Matthews’ aren’t bad, it’s just that Fitz’s are that good.

      • oreofestar

        Fitz has top 5 all time hands but Matthews stil has pretty good hands

    • cliff henny

      everytime i hear someone talk about JM, i hear SNL Bill Brasky jokes in my head.

      • Rambler

        We once had a bachelor party for Brasky. He ate the entire cake before we could tell him there was a stripper in it.

    • Anebriated

      I heard there were originally more kids in the bouncy house that took flight but Jordan Matthews was able to save almost all of them before it got out of control. He would have had them all but he ‘only’ runs a 4.46

  • Engwrite

    I don’t like the Eagles picking at #27 in 2015. That will mean they moved up five spots and probably had to give up a 3rd rounder. I prefer to keep all my picks; increassing my chances of success

    • heemy224

      No* wrong (correction for 1st post)

    • Uncle Wonder

      I see what you did there…not sure this is a championship caliber team just yet. But thats why we watch the games.

      • oreofestar

        Shut up :P trying to dash people’s dreams

  • Bullwinkle

    I was hoping to find out who the Eagles will draft in 2016.

    • Anebriated

      Well they only put out the list of first round prospects. We will have a better idea of who the birds will pick in the first round when they release the second round of the mock drafts…

    • cliff henny

      Marioti. kelly’s offense needs a mobile qb. FOles only threw for 4500 35/8

      • oreofestar

        that is 2015 we are sending Foles to the bench since nobody will trade for him

        • Andy124

          why would they. no fan will pay money to watch a team led by a slow footed quarterback

        • oreofestar

          then the Redskins will sign him

        • Anebriated

          We end up cutting Foles after making it known he was available and nobody would trade for him. As a FA he signs with the Cowboys to replace Romo

  • Token

    What am I missing here? The Eagles got snookered in the Pats trade? How? Getting anything for Sopo was a win.

    • oreofestar

      that was old bruh

    • Anebriated

      Considering the Pats cut him not long ago I would say the Pats go snookered if anything. We’ve already been over the fact that the writer isn’t the smartest tool in the shed many times since that article.

      • IAteLunchToday

        He is a tool, though!

        • Anebriated

          the analogy was used for a reason lol

    • southy

      If you click through the link you’ll see a note from Sheil that boils down to “I can’t believe he actually said this seriously. Don’t blame me I just bring you the quotes.”

  • Anebriated

    After reading Attaochu’s quotes on PFT I am really happy we didn’t go that route. He was someone I had as a second round target for the Eagles. I get where hes coming from with the comments but that sort of self-promotion would not fly in Philly. Still it will be interesting to watch his career compared to Smith’s

    • oreofestar

      what comments?

      • Anebriated

        Straight from PFT:

        “I’m going to be an amazing player,” Attaochu told U-T San Diego. “I’ve been blessed throughout my career and I hope to continue that here. I’m going to be a fixture on this defense for years to come. I was a three-star recruit out of high school playing with all these 4-and-5-star guys. I had the drive to succeed. I was one of the best pass rushers to go through Georgia Tech. But I’m not a big hype guy.”

        Imagine what Attaochu would say about himself if he were a big hype guy.

        “I’m mean,” he added. “Ask any of my teammates. That’s who I am. When I started playing the game, I was that crazy kid on the field. I had intensity people couldn’t match. Off the field, I’m a completely different person. My teammates thought I was crazy, but I have to be in that state of mind when I play. I’m always in a state of paranoia. I’ve got to take your head off.”

        • Anebriated

          I should qualify that I dont mind a player being confident, Id rather they not be self-promoting though. Let us figure it out after watching you play. I was waiting for him to break into third person, that would have been fitting.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Hmm, I’ve got to wholeheartedly agree. He could’ve stated his point in much better fashion than self promo.

  • cliff henny

    reading twitter quotes from Matthews. either this guys is solid gold nugget dropped by jesus himself or the biggest BS schikster hustler in the realm of Nno-D land.

  • cliff henny

    one less weapon…Bye Bye Benn

    • Andy124

      Tim says they may bring him back at a lower price.

      • Anebriated

        I saw that too but if thats the case why not just restructure and add an additional year. If he turns out a good year then he has some trade value since it wouldn’t be an expired contract.

        • Andy124

          I don’t know. Maybe he refused and they’re hardballing him. Doesn’t seem like they’re style of course.

          • Anebriated

            Can’t imagine he would hardball us after we paid him and took good care of him this past year as he rehabbed. He seems to like it here and on paper is a good fit. I would guess he wasn’t the same post injury and thats why he is gone.

          • cliff henny

            havent heard his name mentioned once though. Kelly has said Smith is looking great. coaches and GMs just dont toss out names to hear them, something behind it. ugh, Maehl as 6th recr?

          • Anebriated

            Momah! kidding… sort of.

          • cliff henny

            greg little was cut today. how manyWRs do eagles really need? Sproles and Ertz are psuedo WRs.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Brad?

          • Anebriated

            aka Mr Versatility…

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Versatile at sucking at more than one thing.

          • cliff henny

            yup. not going to lie, if they run the read option on 1st and goal from the 6 and lose 2, something in my living room aint making it

          • Jerry Pomroy

            And we gave up what for him last offseason? This is why I’m leery on giving up draft picks.

          • cliff henny

            dont think anything. Benn was a wasted 6th last yr. pretty sure Smith was released by jets mid season and Eags picked him up. couldnt of been much if they did

          • Anebriated

            We gave the bucs our 6th for Benn and their 7th. Low risk/high reward move. It didnt work.

          • Anebriated

            It scares me that Chip went and talked football with the head coach from Navy this offseason. I hate option football.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I dunno, a pitch to Shady sounds tantalizing. Maybe Navy is looking for a change. They’ve only been running the same offense since forever… And a day.

          • Anebriated

            I can deal with elements of the option but on the whole its just ugly to watch. Chip does have very similar principles in his scheme though so its not terribly surprising. Could be something as simple as discussing the mesh point on zone plays.

          • Maggie

            Maybe they just talked about SCUBA for playing on a muddy or snowy! field.

          • Anebriated

            That or were discussing Villanueva. The Army Ranger we picked up?

      • cliff henny

        how much lower? guy was making 1m. guess maybe save 300-400k, but nothing was guaranteed till season. always just make him restructure like Smith.

        • Andy124

          Good question for Tim, Sheil and Howie.

          • cliff henny

            Tim, and i think he’s pretty far off, makes no sense. there’s not a roster, workout or any other bonuses due. hey, frees up 1m! means Graham only costs 500k to cut

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Or means Dre costs a million less off the top of our cap…

          • A Roy

            Frees up the difference between $1M and whatever the 52nd highest salary is. Since it’s probably somewhere around $550K, it’ll free up another $420K for FOles.

          • cliff henny

            only another $74, 580, 000 to go

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Hey, at least we’ve still got DJ…

      No? Ok, it was worth a shot.

      • Javi Echie

        Damaris Johnson?

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Yeah. He’s awesome! I don’t understand why everyone is down on the kid. He does have short area quickness…

          • cliff henny

            he has to be the slowest 5’8 guy to every play in nfl.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Hey, don’t be picky. I didn’t say where that short area was…

            …my front lawn

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Actually, even at 39 I think I could still take him.

          • A Roy

            Is “front lawn” a euphemism for your nether region?

          • cliff henny

            if i’ve learn 1 thing from Roy Munson, it’s “you dont mow another man’s lawn”

          • Anebriated

            “Hey, I hope you don’t mind, I got up a little early, so I took the liberty of milking your cow for you. Yeah, it took a little while to get her warmed up, she sure is a stubborn one. Then, POW, all at once.”

          • Javi Echie

            lol I was completely joking with that reference and I forget he is still on the roster. But I don’t get why he was sooo dynamic in college and is terrible in the pros

          • BrettConnolly

            Damaris Johnson looked like an absolute stud in training camp and in preseason last year. He actually did get into a couple games and had a few touches, and he looked very pedestrian. I remember seeing him in the Pats scrimmage looking explosive of the line. Damaris Johnson needs to go up to Darren Sproles and say, “teach me the way, master backfield Jedi.”

  • Brandon Baltic

    Not sure if anyone is listening to Howie on WIP but he essentially said the reason for cutting Desean was salary because the Eagles were projected to be way over the cap in the future (I’m guessing with all probable extensions). Looks like Sheil and McManus were way off base with this one.

    • peteike

      Howie? seriously. Im pretty sure about every angle possible was discussed on that situation. As well, they could have just cut/traded him next season prior to the extensions anyway. More likely locker room/money/scheme fit in any combination but really, at this point, why am I even typing this.

      • Brandon Baltic

        If they cut him next year they can’t roll over his 10m in cap savings from this year.

        • A Roy

          Cap savings from Jaccson was $4M.

          • Kev_H

            2015 cap savings from cutting Jackson after this season would have been $4 million. Now it is $10 million + anything they might roll over from this year. 2015 is the problem year so it was better to eat the dead money in 2014.

          • A Roy

            There is a $6M hit in “dead money” this season for releasing him. Since they would’ve spent $10M if they kept him, the difference is $4M. Eaglescap.com is a good source of information.

          • Kev_H

            Did you read my post? About 2015?

          • A Roy

            Okay. $4M this year. $10M next year. The comment I was replying to spoke of a $10M rollover from this year. That’s why I assumed, when you corrected me, you were still talking about that. Sorry.

          • JohnA

            But they don’t *loose* the ‘dead money’, its just that they couldn’t spend it this year. Which they have no intention of doing anyway. So it actually is a saving of $10million. It does all roll over.

          • A Roy

            It’s a $10M cash savings, but only a $4M cap savings.

          • Brandon Baltic

            Nope. His salary was 10m brah.

          • A Roy

            No ish. But there’s still the issue of how his signing bonus gets allocated. That’s the $6M cap hit after releasing him. Read my other posts in this thread.

          • Brandon Baltic

            The 6M dead money cap hit you are paying no matter if you keep him or cut him. The only issue is when that 6M gets paid, but its not really relevant. His 10M salary doesn’t get paid by cutting him therefore, they’ve just saved themselves 10M in cap space that can be rolled into next year.

          • A Roy

            No, the dead money would not have existed if they didn’t cut him. If they hadn’t cut him, they would have paid a salary of $10M and it would have been, of course, a $10M cap hit. Once they released him, all future, pro-rated bonus ($6M) gets rolled up into this year’s cap. Thus, there’s $6M in “dead money” which counts against the cap this year. While they may have saved having to write a check for $10M, they only save $4M in salary cap this year. They’ll save the entire $10M in 2015 as Kev-H has pointed out.

          • Brandon Baltic

            Right and that’s my entire point. Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I’m not talking about their cap space this year, I’m talking about their cap space next year. By cutting him this year, they will be able to spend 10M extra dollars in 2015 that they otherwise would not have been able to if they chose to keep him this year. So essentially the total cap savings by cutting him are 10M (even though it’s next year’s cap).

        • peteike

          they can roll over cap savings from prior season to next? I dont even bother with cap stuff, Eagles are never near it anway

          • Kev_H

            They can and you should be. With current contracts they are potentially up against it next year prior to extensions. Potentially because the exact cap isn’t yet known. Clearly more vets will have to be let go/restructured before 2015 opening day.

          • Kev_H

            Reuben Frank wrote about this in March. No other team in the NFL had a higher 2015 current cap commitment and none were within $10 million of the Eagles. That doesn’t include any extensions of younger players.

          • Brandon Baltic

            Yeah it’s a new rule in the CBA. Howie is saying he anticipates them being near and over the cap in the future because of all the extensions.

    • Anebriated

      Howie is just saying what he has to say. Given the nature of the report that came out at the time if he says much else they put themselves in a position to be investigated no matter what the reasons actually were.

  • SoCalEaglesFan

    It’s a matter of opinion that the 2014 version of Sproles is better than the 2014 version of Bryce Brown. It could be that the Bills feel the same toward Sproles as the Saints did, ie: that Sproles is washed up with a lot of tread on the tires.

    Brown can carry the RB load as a starter. Sproles isn’t built for that. Plus, the NFL has likely already seen the best of Sproles. He’ll never again be as good as he has been.

    It’s just as likely that the Bills made out better than the Eagles did. They get a young up and comer, we get an old has been.

    • peteike

      unless you watched Sproles make people miss in space last season. Wasnt used as much but he still has it. Of course, that can change fast from season to season so never a guarantee.

    • Anebriated

      Drew Brees must not have seen Sproles play last season if hes washed up. Not often an All-Pro QB comes out in the media and says the team made a mistake by trading away a third down back.

  • Jesse

    Smith will make a huge splash his rookie year

  • paul from nc

    If Benoit is predicting Grahman is going to take more snaps this year, there’s no sense reading him any more. He obviously has no insight on this team.