Twitter Mailbag: Draft Day Edition

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Hello there. Happy Draft Day. Let’s dive right in.

Starting to believe that Brandon Graham is staying put. There was some effort from his camp to find him a new home on a team that runs a 4-3 defense. Miami apparently likes him and there was substance to the Dion Jordan for Graham-and-a-pick talk, according to one source, but best I can tell those conversations fizzled out. The Eagles are said to be pleased with how good of shape Graham kept himself in this offseason, and Howie Roseman does not seem eager to deal him. He won't get rid of one of his pass-rushers (which are always in short supply) unless he's presented with a very appealing offer. The same would apply to Vinny Curry.

Trent Cole is their starting outside linebacker opposite Connor Barwin and they are thin at OLB to begin with, so trading him makes no sense. Not sure how much of a market there is for Bryce Brown but I'm guessing the Eagles are open to trading him, especially if they draft a running back this weekend.

 Good question. Funny how the conversation shifts week-to-week in the run-up to the draft. It was widely assumed that Ha Ha Clinton-Dix would be off the board well before the Eagles got on the clock. Then over the last couple days, two of the more respected draft analysts -- Daniel Jeremiah and Mike Mayock -- project that he will fall to the Eagles at 22. Add that with Clinton-Dix's recent request that the Eagles come and snatch him up, and all of a sudden he's the talk of the town. I'll guess that he gets taken before the Eagles pick, and I don't anticipate that they will trade up for him. If he is sitting there, I would have to think he's a nice option.

You in a landslide, Rowie. You in a landslide.

Take the over. Lock city! Four of his eight picks last year were from the Pac 12. He only has six selections this year (at least at the moment) but I'm betting that he snags at least three Pac-12 boys.

Have a hard time picturing it. Not sure dumping DeSean Jackson and then mortgaging a good chunk of your draft to move up to select a receiver in a receiver-rich class can be considered quality resource management. If they move up, I think they do so for an impact defensive player -- more specifically, a pass-rusher. Moving back is more likely in my mind. I keep looking at Cleveland sitting there in the 26 spot and wondering if they'll try to move up to snare their QB of choice.  Roseman is going to be fielding some calls.

What, no love for Johnny Football?

Honestly, I don't think you have to worry about this scenario, roc. The Eagles like Nick Foles and Johnny Manziel will likely be another team's gift or burden before long tonight. But this is why we like the draft, right? All is possible the moment the commissioner steps to the podium.

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  • Warhound

    Are we there yet?

    • cliff henny

      even when it starts, we aint there yet. between Clowney at #1 till Eagles will be 4hrs.

      • G_WallyHunter

        U think? I’m thinking we see 22 by 11pm est

        • cliff henny

          it’s 10 mins a pick, right. they use every ounce of that. couple trades, clock starts over, too.

          • GreenScabs

            Clock doesn’t start over if a trade occurs….

          • Andy124

            clock doesn’t start over on a trade I could swear.

          • cliff henny

            ok, doesnt much matter, first round takes forever. sitting at #22, might be past this beachbum’s bedtime

          • Andy124

            I’ll be up. I don’t plan on working a full day tomorrow anyway.

          • Joe from Easton

            Casual Friday… All I have to do is drag out of bed by eight o’clock, throw on some jeans and tee and drive 7 minutes to work. I’m stayin’ up!

          • GW.Fisher

            When you’re old like me you too can be self-employed…

            Lee or Fuller at 22 & I’lll go to bed happy.

          • Joe from Easton

            Yea that would be nice. Until then it’s “the man” that I serve. Oh well.

          • aub32

            I would hope not. If they traded up, what the heck would they need more time for. lol

        • Joe from Easton

          The first few teams will go quick.. after pick 5 it’ll prob slow down to the full 10 minutes.

  • JosephR2225

    I believe the appropriate response to that last question is “Yes”,

    • bdawkbdawk

      Why? I’m not a Manziel fan, but I don’t understand how one could say “Yes” without seeing a single snap of Manziel in Chip’s offense.

      • Dante Inked UP Lovings

        You dnt have two see a snap exactly when hecplayed in a similar offense in college on the hardest conference with missed talent

  • Reasonableeaglefan

    Over under until A poster here is going by Rowie is one day

  • Eagles1018

    I’m thinking (hoping) the PAC 12 trend is under this year. Why visit more schools than any other head coach? To prove you like the guys you know better? Seems pointless. This is wishful thinking anyway. SEC, ACC etc all have potential high impact guys.

    • Maggie

      Joe Greene played at North Texas State. Warren Moon played at Washington (Pac 12), went undrafted, and is now in 2 HOF’s. Randall Cunningham went to UNLV. etc., etc.

      • bdawkbdawk

        The more money in the game, the less people slip through the cracks.

    • mtn_green

      A lot of the traveling is for the really good UDFAs.
      Chris Polk in a recent interview said the eagles with Reid made him feel like he was drafted and he dropped the offer he had from Washington football team.

  • cliff henny

    Mel C asking about safeties? know PM 24/7 is global, but Sporty Spice?! Sheil andTim, you have arrived, congrats!

    • Andy124

      huh?

      • Joe from Easton

        I think he was facetiously saying that the twitter handle of Mel C is sporty spice (quick google shows her name is melanie chrisholm).

        • Andy124

          ooohhhhhh, gotcha. I didn’t get the sporty spice to “mel c” connection.

      • Maggie

        “Tell me what you want, what you really really want”

        • Andy124

          Barr.

          • Maggie

            YES!

        • Joe from Easton

          The most explosive offense the NFL has ever seen. In other words I want to trade our entire draft for Watkins and then trade back up with next year’s entire draft for Evans.

          • Joe from Easton

            ^^^^ this is not true, haha ^^^^

          • Maggie

            Well, everyone talks about Evan’s size. Maybe HE can be converted to OLB if the Eagles can’t get Barr. ;~D

          • Andy124

            Iron man football

      • cliff henny

        cant be the only pathetic middle age guy who remembers Posh, Ginger, Scarey, Baby and Sporty

        • Andy124

          Yeah, just didn’t get how it related to “mel c” and was too lazy to google it. Joe handled that for me, providing positive reinforcement for my laziness.

        • Dominik

          I’m not even middle aged (not so sure about pathetic, though) and I got the reference. So no need to worry, pal. ;)

  • Joe from Easton

    • Joe from Easton

      This has nothing to do with football, but I love this commercial.

  • Maggie

    Totally agree the only trade-up scenario that makes any sense would be for a defensive player. Not a DB. Linebacker. Preferably OLB. On another topic, many complaints were written during the last few months about the kicker. Is the general consensus that a quality kicker can be found somewhere among the UDFAs? Is that sensible thinking? I’ve read in the comments on this site that offensive linemen are not important and can be found on the street. Then bitter complaining when an OL misses a block, so…kicker? 5th to 7th?

    • Andy124

      In my perception, kickers, and good ones too, are commonly signed, not drafted. Whether UDFA or former rejects, I think that’s the most common scenario. See: Akers, David.

      It usually takes somebody like Janikowski to actually get drafted. Or at least, drafted before the 7th.

      • All Things Bad@ss

        I would imagine that if a kicker was drafted before the now highest paid corner in the NFL that he MUST be HOF caliber, right?? Oh wait …

      • Ian Farley

        the eagles took henery in the 4th! that has worked out well…

        • Andy124

          So the moral of the story must be that 4th round isn’t high enough to draft a kicker. Should probably try with our second rounder this year. ;)

          I think Maggie is asking a valid question: we’re unhappy with our kicker, shouldn’t be consider investing a draft pick to upgrade him? I’m just responding that I think it’s pretty common to locate good kickers outside of the draft.

          • A Roy

            In a deep draft where we only have 6 picks, it would be more prudent to look for a kicker as an UFA. In an 11 pick year with an average draft, I’d be tempted to use a 6th round selection on one.

          • Ian Farley

            i would agree. there are always leftover veterans during camp and rookies a plenty.

        • peteike

          thats like drafting a kicker before the last round in fantasy. Oh my silly Eagles

          • Ian Farley

            lol its actually worse….

      • Mr.Budz

        This makes me literally sick to my stomach when I realize we wasted a 4th round draft pick on a noodle back in 2011. We got a great player in the 6th round that year when we had 11 picks total.

    • jbird

      I think people are looking at this trade up deal all wrong. In 2011 some guys were held under contract an extra two years and that released a glut of FAs onto the market all at once that year (and of course allowed us to assemble a Dream Team). Since then FA has been weak because everyone good just signed 1-3 years ago. What do you think happens when all these under classmen are coming out? Do you think that makes next year a good draft when all the guys that were supposed to be in the class of ’15 are coming out now? So who cares about trading a pick that should be in the 21-25 range in next year’s draft. I think Chip would gladly give away his first next year to get his guy this year. I think that first next year and maybe a fourth this year gets you way up there. Maybe top five. What does a team like the Raiders need with a 3-4 OLB when they have ran the 4-3 for years? Khalil Mack is not a scheme fit and I could see them making a deal. But that begs the question, how the hell is Clowney a scheme fit for Houston when Romeo Crennell runs a strict two gap 3-4. Clowney cannot be a stand up OLB. He is too big! So what is he going to be a two gap DE with his skinny ass?? I don’t understand what people think!! He only fits with St Louis and Oakland and StL doesn’t need him with Quinn and Long (who can’t hold up full-time at DT). If Houston can’t trade out, Mack is the pick.

      • aub32

        I agree with everything but your Clowney point. You don’t pass on that type of talent due to your scheme. You change your scheme to accommodate that type of talent.

      • Maggie

        I agree on the underclassmen coming out this year will probably lead to a weak draft next year. My actual point was that the Eagles NEED a pass rusher. Especially an OLB. I have despised the Raiders for 40 years so don’t care what they do. As for Clowney, I believe the talking heads’ assume that he can fit any scheme somehow, just because. Hope he does land on a team that can really use him.

    • All Things Bad@ss

      We should go old school Papale style for kickers. Surely there are dudes sitting in their living room with tree trunk legs, limber like an olympic gymnast that can boot the ball with accuracy that would love to be an Eagle, right??

      • Maggie

        Entirely possible, since you mentioned accuracy. ~)

  • Maggie

    This is one time, as related to the Eagles, when it is good to be on the West Coast. Draft starts at 5:00 here!

    • A Roy

      Yes, but what time does it start in Canada?

      • Andy124

        That’s a trick question. Canadians can’t tell time.

        • Maggie

          Sir Sandford Fleming, KCMG (January 7, 1827 – July 22, 1915) was a Scottish-born Canadian engineer and inventor. He proposed worldwide standard time zones.

          • Andy124

            Those clever Scotts. ;)

          • A Roy

            He was chased out of Britain for calling it Zulu time and not Zed.

          • Maggie

            Able, Baker, Charlie, etc.?

        • cliff henny

          yeah, they have 2, summer and winter

          • A Roy

            Daytime and nighttime…

          • Maggie

            Get up into the Territories it’s 24 hours of the first in June and 24 hours of the second in December. I’m told that if far enough north, the 24 hours of darkness also includes a full moon all the time. If you can crawl out of the igloo to see it without freezing.

          • A Roy

            You’re kidding me. I don’t go farther north than Awtowah. It’s cold up towards Hudson Bay. Even in South Ontario in winter, it’s so cold there’s a word between it’s and cold.

          • Maggie

            Not entirely accurate. West Coast and winter.

          • Adam

            What’s a summer?

          • cliff henny

            the 150-200hrs or so when where’s no white stuffon the ground

        • Adam

          I will make orphans of your children.

          • Andy124

            That would be rude, and Canadians don’t do rude. You’d show up ready to kill me and end up buying me a beer. :)

          • Adam

            Well I would adopt them afterwards and raise them as my own

          • Andy124

            I like my scenario better.

        • peteike

          oh ya, Canada jokes never get old

        • peteike

          but hey, much props, how bout those Raptor fans wow. Represent

      • Maggie

        Trick question. Canada is over 5000 miles and 6 time zones wide, so, it’s hard to say.

    • botto

      even better to live here in Maui it starts at 2pm!

    • All Things Bad@ss

      And perfect weather to grill up some wings to nosh on during the draft here in LA!

      • cliff henny

        football Sat and Sundays are the best out west, not only times, but everyone is friends w/ someone into the next game. Penn State comes on at 9am often, had michigan oregan and texas buddies, hit the pier in Hermosa, old Sharky’s, and drink 2 for 1 pitchers. wake up and house party, had the dish w/ 4 recievers and 4 32+inch tvs in LR, entrance fee was case of beer. man, those 5 yrs are a blurr.

        • Maggie

          Presumably you didn’t spend your weekends playing volleyball on the beach, lol.

        • All Things Bad@ss

          You’re not kidding! Lotsa transplants out here which definitely makes for fun times watching different games. I somehow got roped into also supporting the Huskers from some Nebraska folk I met out here. Sharkeez I heard is off the chain. I have a buddy in Hermosa who’s invited me but haven’t made it down there yet. Haven’t fallen in love with any of the sports bars in LA … and The Shack in Santa Monica was the only Eagles bar in town but they shut down. When I lived in AZ, I used to roll up to this bar in Scottsdale called Upper Deck … Wall to wall diehards, 2 floors of them. Awesome joint .. “the Desert Eagles Nest”. Had a massive block party there for the NFC Championship game at Cards stadium a few years back. Still miss partying back home with all my buddies bleeding green

          • cliff henny

            it was, been 7 or so yrs. lived 2 blocks away, we lived there, about 12-15 of us had perma-reserved table, we came, the house got us our table. it was the perfect bar, was open flow inside to outside tons of seating. was decorated as a tiki bar, and tvs were set-in. played fun dance music for ladies, crazy cheap drinks to loosen them up, guys had sports. i’d spend 12 hrs there and get 10 buck tab.

          • Rambler

            Upper Deck was fun. Its at a new place now called Rockbar in Scottsdale, but I did not check it out last season. I will have to give it a go this upcoming year. And hey, the Super Bowl is back out here this year, so here’s to hoping!

          • All Things Bad@ss

            I’ll be out there when the Birds play the Cards this year Rambler. We’ll have to pound a few brews! I’m 0-2 at Cards stadium … 3rd time’s a charm?!

          • Rambler

            Yep I was in the stadium for those loses as well. And I also saw them lose in Sun Devil stadium in 2005. So I am actually thinking I am saving my money this year and not going to the upcoming game. I am clearly bad luck!

    • Dominik

      Not so cool if you life in Europe. Draft begins at 2am for me. That’s not cool. At least the pizza I ordered came a few minutes ago. Now I just have to wait 5 hours…

      • hrtak

        Story of my life :))

      • peteike

        enh, just wake up to see what happened then stay up for the rest of weekend where the real fun is anyway.

  • Andy124

    Off topic, just saw this dandy of a headline courtesy Mr. Taking Full Advantage of My 15 Minutes of Fame to Run My Mouth as Much as Humanly Possible Sherman:

    NFL wouldn’t have banned Sterling

    • Richard Colton

      Peter King empowered him to spew as much nonsense as possible. He’s really a tool.

      • Andy124

        Q: Who, Peter King or Richard Sherman?
        A: Yes.

      • peteike

        oh no cmon, I love Sherman. Talk away even if I disagree, its entertaining if nothing else.

  • Token

    So my final guess before the draft:

    – I think if Barr falls past #10 they will be on the phone and will try to move up for him. I think in the end they get Barr,. Just knowing they were ready to draft Jordan #3 last year. Knowing they were ready to trade for him this year. If they like Jordan that much theres no reason they shouldnt love Barr at least that much IMO. Unless its just a Oregon thing. Im guessing Barr is the main target in a trade up.

    – I think Johnny Football ends up a Cowboy. Just because Jerry loves him and Jerry is an idiot GM.

    – They will get their WR in the 2nd round. Maybe even trade up again to the top of the 2nd. The best scenario to me would be Robinson in the 2nd. But I dont know that he will be there. So Ill guess the pick is Jordan Matthews.

    • Richard Colton

      Barr and Matthews – love it. Just not used to the optimistic, hopeful version of you.

      • A Roy

        Wait until the picks are in.

        • Richard Colton

          wait to do what?

          • A Roy

            To comment on Token’s optimism.

          • Richard Colton

            I’ll take what I can get. It’s as rare as Haley’s Comet around here.

          • Maggie

            Agonize?

      • Andy124

        If we don’t get Barr, I hope he goes way beyond our range so there’s no “so close” agony.

        • Richard Colton

          hate to be “that guy” but you know what would be worse? we sit at 22, he FALLS to 22, we pass, and he goes on to have an Earl Thomas like career.

          • A Roy

            I can’t imagine us trading down or not selecting him if he’s available at #22.

          • Andy124

            Go wash your mouth out with soap.

          • Adam

            Do I have to update the chart?

    • A Roy

      From your lips to Jerry’s ear…

    • Adam

      I would love to see Johnny Football go to Dallas. QB controversy. If he losses the competition, they wasted a first round pick. If he wins, they have about 15% of their cap space for at least the next 3 years tied up in a backup QB. Awesome.

    • southy

      So Barr and Matthews and a handful of UDFAs.

    • peteike

      Im curious to see if Lattimer sneaks up into the 1st or where he falls. Im guessing Boys take Barr.

  • travis papa

    I really believe if Barr is not there we are talking our 1 and 3 plus graham for Miami’s 2and 4 plus Jordan.

    • aub32

      Nope.

  • Richard Colton

    OK – Bold predictions?

    49ers get Evans – even if it means trading multiple picks this year and one next year.
    Johnny Football a Cowboy…Romo tweets something positive…then sulks all year
    Teddy Bridgewater sneaks back into the 1st round – either by Cleveland or Jax
    Seahawks do something unpredictable – but Mel Kiper keeps his fat mouth shut about it

    • A Roy

      I bought in until you said Mel Kiper would keep his mouth shut.

      • Richard Colton

        he has to, doesn’t he? Seahawks were the laughing stock of the “draft expert community” for the last two years until they won the Superbowl with homegrown players.

        Yeah – you’re right. He’ll probably still M-F them after they take a future HOF player Mel had low on his Big Board.

    • peteike

      My guess is boys take Barr, non fit and all just to annoy us. Cant wait to see JM face as he drops lower and lower in the first round although I kinda like the Tampa speculation.

  • Maggie

    Richard Sherman doesn’t believe that NFL commissioner Roger Goodell would stand up to an owner the way his NBA counterpart, Adam Silver, did when he banned Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling for life for making racist comments.

    Asked in an interview with Time Magazine whether he thought Goodell would take the same stance as Silver, who has been widely praised for his decision to rid the NBA of Sterling, Sherman said, “No, I don’t.”

    “Because we have an NFL team called the Redskins,” Sherman said, “I don’t think the NFL really is as concerned as they show. The NFL is more of a bottom-line league. If it doesn’t affect their bottom line, they’re not as concerned.”

    A bit more of the interview, which makes a little more sense than just the headline.

    • peteike

      Its almost like hes now the voice of the resistance at this point. I love hearing what he has to say and usually agree but recently not so much. The Redskins is no quick easy fix but it should be considered and I actually think they will change it at some point. I also didnt buy his blaming the Eagles for djax angle but he made some other solid points there.

  • Uncle Wonder

    Everybody is friends on the board these days…I haven’t seen a downvote in ages…too much cosigning. Ugh…I hate how long the NFL offseason is, smh

    • Adam

      Disqus removed the downvoting feature. You can click the arrow but the number count doesn’t show. Just affects where it shows up in the feed I think.

      • Andy124

        I down-voted you for beating me to the punch by two seconds… and threatening my life.

    • Andy124

      You do realize that down-votes are disabled right?

      • Uncle Wonder

        well there you have it lol *walks away in shame*

      • knighn

        downvote.

      • knighn

        See? They’re not disabled. You just can’t be an anoymous puss about it anymore.

    • Maggie

      Perhaps just all giddiness today. By Sunday there will be much disgust and despair from all the disappointed people whose favorites didn’t get drafted by the Eagles. ;~(

      • anon

        Already have a Jarvis Landry memorial.

    • Eagles1018

      I for one like my new friends. I love talking Eagles with knowledgeable die hard fans. I love it so much I gave up sex just to read the comments. In other news apparently my wife is pregnant

      • Uncle Wonder

        ummm…congrats/condolences…i swear it wasnt me this time

        • Eagles1018

          HAHAHAHAHA that’s the spirit dude!!

          • Uncle Wonder

            maybe i am missing something…she got pregnant while u werent having sex? lol, im sure this is all a joke im takin it way too serious

          • Eagles1018

            Yes it’s a joke. That was the punch line. I’m an eagles fan we don’t have a sense of humor. Oh wait how many sb rings do we have? Yes….we have a sense of humor lol

          • Uncle Wonder

            ok…just wanted to be sure my follow up joke wasnt offensive lol

          • Eagles1018

            Dude it’s a comment board…I don’t offend easy. Hey Aub me and Geags are gonna watch the draft later wanna come hang?

          • Uncle Wonder

            I would but dont live in philly…stuck out in Shady’s neck of the woods, harrisburg

          • Andy124

            Ever been to Redd’s BBQ in Carlisle?

          • Uncle Wonder

            I actually havent…how is it?

          • Andy124

            excellent. Love that place. Love the pulled pork, brisket, wings, ribs, mac-n-cheese, sauces, all of it. I take the daughter there for pre-game lunches for 1:00 games during the season.

          • Uncle Wonder

            i dont actually get out to carlisle that much but ill have to check it out this summer

          • Andy124

            Worth it.

          • A Roy

            What side of Carlisle?

          • Andy124

            downtown. 109 N Hanover St

          • A Roy

            I’ll have to look for it. I was in downtown Carlisle Tuesday. Or at least the parking lot that used to be downtown Carlisle.

      • knighn

        Take it from me: pregnancy is no reason to give up sex… unless she’s in labor.
        As others said: congrats!

      • aub32

        So that’s where GEAGLE went!

        • Eagles1018

          :-)

    • knighn

      There is no QB controversy right now. That was the biggest thing. Wait until the Eagles pick. Slim chance of everyone agreeing. It will be:
      “They should have traded up”
      “They should have traded back”
      “They should have taken someone else”
      “I hate this pick”
      “Well, Forget You! (radio edit) I love this pick!”

      • Uncle Wonder

        Hope so, I’m gettin bored…i have actually been doing work at work!

        • aub32

          Well now you’ve gone and said something funny that I had to upvote.

    • Dominik

      There you go, fella. Happy now?

    • Ark87

      Ever since they disabled the downvotes we have to flame and shame our peers the old fashioned way. Which is it’s own reward, really

    • A Roy

      Downvoted…just for S&G.

  • JBShakes

    I’m so sick of waiting for this damn draft to start I actually feel like having a conversation about why the Eagles let Desean go.

    • Andy124

      They let him go because he’s too short. They’re drafting Cooks to replace him.

      • JBShakes

        Really? I heard it was because he was crippled. Get it? CRIPpled?

        Jesus. Only 4 hours and 14 minutes to go…

        • Andy124

          The truth is that DJ demanded his release because Chip wouldn’t spell Kelly with a C.

  • botto

    oh if we traded up for watkins that woudl be fun and our offense would be scary and unstopable