Jeremiah Compares Mosley To DeMeco

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Former Eagles scout Daniel Jeremiah, now an analyst for the NFL Network, took part in a conference call alongside Charles Davis Thursday. Several Philly-related angles were explored.

One topic of conversation was Alabama linebacker C.J. Mosley, who some see as a fit for the Birds at 22. Interestingly enough, Jeremiah compared Mosley to a current Eagles ‘backer.

“I think he’s very good in coverage. I think he’s an excellent blitzer.  But the most impressive aspect of his game is his  instincts. I remember scouting DeMeco Ryans at Alabama, and that’s what set him apart was his instincts. I personally think he’s a better player than DeMeco was coming out, and DeMeco has had a nice career. I think he’s one of those guys that could play in either defense; ideally for me I’d  like to see him as a Mike in a 4-3.”




Mosley (6-2, 238) had over 100 tackles last season and was the recipient of the Butkus Award, given to the nation's top linebacker. Opinions vary on whether he'll be selected in the Eagles' neighborhood or earlier in the draft.

Some other Eagles-related highlights:

Jeremiah can see the Eagles using their first-round pick on Kelvin Benjamin:

"I think a lot of people have been kind of hung up on the speed receivers saying they're going to find somebody to replace DeSean Jackson and so you talk about Brandin Cooks and maybe Odell Beckham. I don't think Odell Beckham is going to be there, I think he's going to be gone.

"I look at the decision there, I think Kelvin Benjamin, who's a little bit of a polarizing player out of Florida State, that to me would be a name I would keep an eye on because Chip Kelly at Oregon, everybody focuses on the pace and the tempo, and they kind of assume that he likes little, small, fast players, but on the outside they always have some big, physical receivers. I would think adding more size, if you add Kelvin Benjamin, now you've got Riley Cooper and then you throw Jeremy Maclin in the mix, now they're going to be able to move the ball in between the 20s, but you get down in the red zone you've got two guys you can throw the ball up to. That Kelvin Benjamin to the Eagles to me is one I keep an eye on."

-- Jeremiah once worked for Andy Reid in Philly, and was asked about the difference in how the Eagles are evaluating players now under Chip Kelly. Jeremiah noted that Kelly puts a bigger emphasis on measurables, which shrinks the pool of prospects.

"[I]n terms of philosophy, I think that kind of mirrors what the Patriots do under Bill Belichick. Most draft boards when you talk to guys around the league and the teams I worked for, you have about 150 players on your board, and New England, they're kind of famous for being much less than that, well below 100. There's only a certain amount of guys they feel like fits what they want to do, and I think that's kind of what Philadelphia is going to with Chip Kelly when he's around."

-- Jeremiah gave his take on the top two safeties in this class, Ha Ha Clinton Dix and Calvin Pryor.

"I have Calvin Pryor as my 15th overall player and Clinton-Dix as my 16th... Ha Ha Clinton-Dix may be a little more range over the top, but I just love Pryor. I love the physical way he plays the game, and I thought he was plenty capable of making plays at the high safety, as well. He's got seven career interceptions, gets his hands on footballs, but I just like his ability to come down, force the run. He's like playing with an extra linebacker. I just like those physical players. I think they provide an element to your defense that's tough to find.

"I remember working with Rex Ryan in Baltimore, he used to always say that the one thing that changes a complexion more than anything else in a game was not a turnover, it was a big hit. A big hit got your teammates going, got the crowd into the game, and there's value in that, and that's what Pryor gives you."

-- Finally, Davis was asked about the advantages Kelly and Pete Carroll have this time of year with their strong ties to the college football scene.

"I think, yes, it's an advantage for them in terms of [familiarity with the players], but also, it can cloud you a little bit, too. If that kid played really well against you and that was one game's worth, that he was just phenomenal and you keep that in your head and that's the reason you take him, sometimes it may lead you not to check him out as thoroughly as you want, and I'm not saying Chip wouldn't do that or Pete wouldn't do that, but those things linger."

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  • FluxCapacitor

    If they go for an ILB, I’d rather them wait and grab Trent Murphy later.

    • phillylove21

      Christian Jones.. Better in coverage and also played outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense..

    • Tom w

      He is a d end olb in a 3 4 at best. Murphy isn’t an ilb. But thanks

      • FluxCapacitor

        “olb at best”? You do realize in a 3-4 the pass rushing olb is one of the key guys on D right? There may be better guys out there than Murphy, even though I do like him, but you just cracked me up.

  • I_Miss_Geagle

    I’ve been watching this guy play since 1753, look at the tape.

    • G_WallyHunter

      did he actually get banned?

      • I_Miss_Geagle

        Well, all of his comments are deleted, and the total page comments are down 73%, so I think so.

        • G_WallyHunter

          HAHA good observation, he’ll be back soon enough, not the same around here without him

          • I_Miss_Geagle

            I don’t think this mock-Geagle account is going to last very long. Haha.

          • G_WallyHunter

            why not

          • James Hathaway

            Well, I don’t like hiding behind a mock account for one, and I’d probably offend someone accidentally.

          • UWotM8

            Meh, if someone’s thin-skinned enough to get offended by that then they probably shouldn’t be on the internet in the first place.

        • UWotM8

          The dude gets banned from BGN twice, and now gets banned from here. He does nothing but speak hyperbole and acts like he knows more than everyone else and when he gets called out on his BS, he resorts to insults. Also those damn ellipses!

          • James Hathaway

            I enjoyed calling him out and having him number me. I’m not sure if it was him identifying me as a “hater”, a “fan”, or adding me to a “hit list”. We may never k

          • UWotM8

            Lol, John and his “hit list.”

          • TripSquadMonopoly

            Ya I take pride in the fact that I was #1. We’ve always had a love/hate relationship but honestly its better when hes here a lot of passion.

          • GoBirds1

            And he is the same clown that was pounding the table to draft Manti Teo last year. He is such a toolbag

          • wiztopher

            Geagle is the king of all douchebags. I’d enjoy breaking his head I think.

  • ceedubya9

    Want.

  • Tom w

    I worry about the injury concerns w Mosley and the tread on his tires coming out of four yrs playing under Sabans physical demanding camp and practice style. I’d think about it if he fell to 22 but rather trade down top top of second round, get an extra third and fifth and take Kyle van noy from byu or w that extra third take Christian jones from fsu. I also really like Preston brown and lamin barrow from Louisville and lsu respectively as a potential replacement for demeco.

    All else being equal, looks like chip and Howie will take a olb, ilb, and wr in the first five rounds that much I am sure about.

    I also agree w Jeremiah that it is very unlikely chip takes a six ft or under wr early in the draft. Think he wants big fast wrs on the outside to block and create mismatches in one on one over the top. Think maclin fits well in the slot for chip if he finds his heart and a guy like josh huff from Oregon in the fifth rd or Jeremy gallon from Michigan who is tough and lightening quick or Ellington from SoCal.

    Early on chip is gonna look at Benjamin unfortunately, and robinson, latimer, and moncrief. Hopefully he falls in love w latimer like I did after watching a bunch of his games in a similar type offense. Can’t gauge where latimer is going. Somewhere between niners in first and niners in second round Kid offers everything … Speed, strong hands, leaping ability, height he uses, yac, physical, willing blocker, Showed well in games against roby and Dennard and baptiste

    • cliff henny

      nice post. yup, agree, hope they look 3rd-4th rd range for Ryans replacement. have year to groom. Christian Jones works for me. talk about versatile, guy played D-end, MLB and OLB all in same games

      • James Hathaway

        That sounds like Adelius (spelling?) Thomas. Sign me up for that.

      • Eaglehaslanded

        I’m hoping they get Christian Jones too. Watched a lot of FSU because I’m a Jameis Winston fan. CJ continuously caught my eye making plays on the defense. I believe Chip likes him…hopefully the Eagles will land him.

    • I_Miss_Geagle

      I really, REALLY don’t want K-Ben. He reeks of Mike Williams (Sr., not Jr. in Buffalo). I see a guy with all of the size in the world, a lack of motivation, and a lack of fire. If he had an Anquan Boldin type of mean streak, he’d be a total stud. He just seems to have all of the tools, but none of the desire. I could absolutely be wrong about this, but I don’t think I am.

      • Tom w

        I didn’t say I wanted him I said I bet chip looks at him and likes his physical ability and upside. I think he is d end playing wr who is already 23. But I wouldn’t be suprised if chip takes him is what I am saying

        • James Hathaway

          Yeah, I wasn’t implying that you wanted him. I was more just saying that I don’t want him. Sorry for any confusion.

        • Bullwinkle

          Yes, but Chip also wants somebody he feels confident will buy into his system and work very hard to learn and improve. I’m not sure that KB totally meets this requirement.

    • Eagles1018

      Tom, I agree with no rebuttals

  • cliff henny

    “Bama defenders make me nervous. 1st, they play along side minimum 4-star probably mostly 5-star athletes, often these guys look better than they really are. 2nd, Saban knows how to cover weaknesses, cant stand the guy but not getting any better coaching in college. and 3rd, Saban runs these guys into the ground. better have full body MRI done.

    • I_Miss_Geagle

      *thinly veiled racist remark for no reason* *Condescending draft comment*
      I’ll be back I have to feed my cat army.

  • G_WallyHunter

    given the way they’ve addressed secondary with Carroll and Jenkins, bringing back a solid Nate, I’d have no problem with them using it on a stud LB, but one that fits better?
    Who fits better than Mosley?

    • James Hathaway

      I’m not sure, to be honest. But I agree. I’m actually ok with our secondary. We have flexibility back there. The numbers are going to be inflated due to losing time of possession battles weekly. I won’t be irritated if they draft a CB or Safety in the first 3 rounds, but it doesn’t NEED to happen in the 1st. BPA, and I prefer a linebacker or WR first.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Ya I won’t be mad to see an LB or WR come off at 22, or won’t be mad at a trade back either..

    • ceedubya9

      Christian Jones probably. They may even like him more overall for this defense.

  • Vet Linc

    In all seriousness, getting that Geagle character off this site is addition by subtraction.

    The guy was a complete tool.

    • James Hathaway

      That’s why I made the mock account. He had a ridiculous amount of knowledge but his ego was way, wayyyyy over the top.

      • Vet Linc

        He had no knowledge.

        He had free time on his hands.

        Big difference.

        • James Hathaway

          Have you ever tried to feed 287 cats at the same time? It’s difficult. The guy was a hero.

          • Vet Linc

            I am unaware of the cats but it makes sense and fits in with the profile many have of him.

          • cliff henny

            know he has 3 huge dogs, never heard about cats

          • James Hathaway

            Totally made up based on the image I’ve constructed of him.

          • EagleDuck

            His football commentary was ok, it was just weird when he’d randomly freak out on people… Honestly like a bi-polar thing. I personally hope he’s back at some point for the football part of it. Maybe a little less aggressive about some topics though.

          • Maggie

            That many cats with those two 100-pound Belgian (or whatever) guard dogs in the darkened bedroom?

        • TheNest

          I wish I had more free time…

        • Tom w

          Nah he was right a lot of the times and and called out people just mimicking nonsense. Was a tad over the top sure; but brought more to the table then 95 percent of people here.

          • James Hathaway

            He was right a lot, it was just… ugh.

          • http://www.idonthaveawebsite.com theedevilsadvocate

            agreed

          • G_WallyHunter

            bingo

        • eaglefansocal

          His ego was a little larger than his knowledge, but he was fun. I think I will go over to the other site and invite he and Maggie back maybe with different names.

          • Maggie

            Maggie never left, except when bored with endless mock drafts. ;~). Sometimes amusing to read the 12-year-olds commenting on philly.com. Also always reads Igglesblitz.

    • Token

      Great news.

    • George

      Did he get kicked off, or just leave, I havent been following comments lately

      • peteike

        Id guess he was kicked off, all his comments were removed yesterday. He’ll be back. I get how he could rub people the wrong way but whatever, its a message board. I enjoyed most of his comments and back n forth. People just took stuff too seriously sometimes even when he wasnt being rude, they took it that way. Some posters he had issues with but for the most part its just talking football. Im not easily offended, ego or not.

        • G_WallyHunter

          exactly ya, is input was usually great. When he had miscellaneous info from twitter or what not involving our players it was good to know.

        • Bukester

          Geagle is gone!!!???. that is a shame actually. I thought he was great for the site. I could never put the time in that that dude did. And I learned a lot from him and others here. I have to say he doesn’t tolerate others well . Probably some kind of low-grade spatial disorder of some kind, but he’ll be missed.

          • RIP illa

            This made me lol. Great post. Don’t worry, he’ll be back…he always comes back! :-)

          • Maggie

            mksp on Lawlor’s website speculated on a multiple personality disorder.

        • reb

          As one who undeservedly suffered his wrath I’d like to see him given a chance to come back while promising to rein in his darker side. Yeah, he rambled on for unholy lengths but often with lots of details I don’t get elsewhere. Yeah, he’d make crazy predictions sometimes – “I feel like we’re going to get Byrd AND Ward or Ward AND Jenkins” – but that could be fun, too.

    • cliff henny

      ah, he’s been banned before, and stormed off in huff vowing never to return. he’ll be back

      • ochospantalones

        It looks like he and Maggie have moved their love affair over to philly dot com.

        • cliff henny

          really? he really hates her. which article?

          • ochospantalones

            They both popped up on a few, but the one where I saw him talking stuff to her was the Anthony Barr article.

          • Maggie

            The very first time Maggie brought up Barr’s name, she was attacked for being stupid, etc. The person in question attacks others as well, don’t forget.

          • ochospantalones

            Oh, I’m no defender of Geagle, he doesn’t exactly play well with others.

          • Maggie

            Maggie has never said anything to the person in question, only made comments to other people. Usually on topic.

        • Maggie

          Maggie is right here, in the third person, lol. Maggie hates nobody. If folks were reading carefully, they would have noticed that Maggie only held conversations with other commenters, some of whom have quite a sense of humor. Maggie was often attacked out of the blue and seldom responded, even when encouraged to do so by others.

          • Mark F

            Mark admires Maggie’s restraint.

      • RIP illa

        That was one of the greatest bannings in the history of the interwebz!!! I still laugh when thinking about it!

      • cheapmeat

        I can’t believe I didn’t check in earlier. I’ve been here everyday since ‘moving the chains’ and apparently missed an epic meltdown.

        • therealpistolp

          I feel the same way… Stupid job lol

      • Scott J

        What was his old username before Geagle? Maybe theres a pattern and we’ll be able to sniff him out if he returns.

        • Harpy Eagle

          just look for posts with ‘FOles’ in them

    • Guest

      I think I got banned too….my comments are pending appoval?

      • Rambler

        I had one comment get deleted yesterday. Maybe they are being more vigilant these days.

      • George

        thats only if you swear

    • A Roy

      No GEAGLE? What happened?

  • dislikedisqus

    He has Benjamin to the Eagles in his mock, but I don’t see them taking him over Cooks or Lee, both of whom he has going later in the round. Of the 3, I see them ranking Cooks highest. Save his size, his measurable are very high – tops in speed and agility, and hands as big as Mike Evans and Cody Latimer, and a nice vertical. Plus he can play the slot which is a hole.

  • Joe L

    I’m torn on the Benjamin issue. One one hand,the measurables are fantastic. 6’5 240 lbs with the ability to win deep is great. But why didn’t he do anything until he was 23 years old? What held back his development? That worries me.

    • James Hathaway

      Did you actually look at all of the measurables? He has no power, and has almost no lateral agility. Sure, you’d expect someone of his frame to lack wiggle, but strength? He’s soft and seems to be a one year wonder. I try to stay away from them. I think there are better options, personally! Totally understand why you are conflicted!

      • RIP illa

        How is power determined during the combine process?

        • James Hathaway

          you don’t think that bench has a correlation with general strength?

          • RIP illa

            Nope! It’s nice to look at and watch, but as far as football strength…it makes very little difference. It’s pretty much considered antiquated by all, but just one of those things that is done and won’t change, cuz it’s been done and hasn’t changed for so long.

            I’ll just use Warren Sap as an example, cuz it’s the main one I can think of off the too of my head. He did something like 7-9 reps (of course on purpose) but if he were to be judged on that…well you get the idea.
            Oh yeah, also Brandon Graham. Now Graham did a really good number at 30-31. But his actually strength and football strength is so much better! Kids a beast. Still it doesn’t necessarily transfer to production on the field. Dwayne Gratz put up like 23 or something and he’s a CB, does that mean he’s really that much stronger than some LBs who put up 15-20, or even DL and OL who have a lesser or similar number???

          • James Hathaway

            I see what you’re saying. I’m not saying that it’s the greatest tell of strength, but I do think it represents work ethic and determination. Maybe I’m old-fashioned for my age, but I want a player to a total gym rat and film hound. I don’t get that impression from KB. If we draft him, I’ll gladly give him a few years to prove me wrong, I’m just skeptical.

          • RIP illa

            I hear you and if course that type of player would be great. I’m not a fan of KB at all. I think he’s being hyped and thrust into a 1st rd grade, along with a hand full of other players in this draft. So if we did draft him at 22, I’ll be posting about how weak he is, along with bad hands, and pointing to his bench reps just for spite!!! :-)

          • Maggie

            But all that bench pressing can make a guy’s pecs look good, can’t it?

          • wpnx20
          • James Hathaway

            Heh. That’s insane. Meanwhile Broderick bunkley posted 40+ reps iirc

          • Brazilnut

            Warren Sapp gave up, he could have easily done more.

          • RIP illa

            “(of course on purpose)”
            Already addressed.

          • Brazilnut

            And yet you still seem to think its a relevant example.

          • RIP illa

            “But if he were to be judge on that…”
            Meaning if teams only focused on the number alone! Main point in that example and yes…it still fits and works!!!

            Pretty sure not all teams, who were in a position to draft him, we’re privy to the fact that he “gave up”!!! According to the story, which he himself told, he only made that info available to one specific coach who asked him. But, you can go on and try to be a douche about one example, that still works, all you want to.

      • Joe L

        Yea, I’ve seen all his measurables. Just by watching him, you’d know his lateral agility isn’t anything special, and most guys his size just don’t possess that quality anyway. I was more wondering why it took someone his size all this time to breakout on the football field. Is it something between the ears, because he clearly has the physical tools.

        • James Hathaway

          Pretty sure it’s something either in between the ears, or something in the chest. He’s either bright enough but doesn’t have the fire, or he has the fire and he’s not bright enough. Either way is equally scary.

    • James Hathaway

      http://mockdraftable.com/player/4329/ I mean, that is just scary.

  • Glenn

    Mosley would be a great pick at 22 if he is available. I say they take the best available at 22, whether its Pryor, Mosley, Beckham, Lee, or Cooks. Ryans will not be an Eagle next year due to his declining skills and salary. Unfortunately, WR is now a need due to the Jackson cut.

    • JofreyRice

      Agree with you. I think there is a chasm between Mosley and any other ILB. If they are truly practicing “BPA”, he’ll be it, at 22.

      • RIP illa

        Even Shazier?

        • JofreyRice

          Big time. I think Mosley can fit any system, and will be a multi probowler.

  • IAteLunchToday

    I just feel that management should come out and give us reasons why they decided to just cut him loose. I mean sure he might have rubbed some people the wrong way, but you can’t argue with the fact that he produced a lot. As someone noted earlier, production is already down 73%. I mean maybe it will be best in the long run. Maybe people will step up and take his place. I mean I have a lot of faith in T and S but I just feel like we need answers.

    • James Hathaway

      GEAGLE IS DESEAN JACKSON?!

      • IAteLunchToday

        I thought it was kind of funny to make the comparison.

      • Rambler

        I posted something similar along these lines yesterday… interestingly it was my post that was deleted. Pretty funny.

  • cliff henny
    • Warhound

      OMG he’s all of them!

    • Andy124

      ouch

  • DoctorRick

    Geagle was fun and I hope he returns. All I saw was some *deleted* posts and now he’s banned? I have enjoyed his posts and passion, but maybe he crossed a line. One of owes the other a beer, I can’t remember who. I’ll buy.

    Think we have to go defense with first pick and then fill in with WRs later on, I can’t even speculate who we will pick since the first round seems to be so fluid. I think the BPA (best player available) is the way to go in this draft.

    FWIW, kickers are undervalued. They consistently score among the most points by position but are looked at as an afterthought. Why don’t we actually go after a good kicker? I know they are not scarce but JFC, talk about cheap price per point. Buy 2, they’re cheap.

  • gruvi

    Geagle is finally off here!? Thank you Tim and Sheil! Now I can enjoy reading comments again without that person’s annoying attacks on other commentors.