Twitter Mailbag: More Eagles On the Move?

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I believe Brandon Graham is the most likely candidate to get dealt. The Eagles recognize that he is best suited as a 4-3 defensive end and are open to moving him if the right offer comes along. 

It’s questionable whether a team would give up a pick for Graham, who only has one year remaining on his rookie deal. Would anyone want to cough up a selection in a deep draft to acquire a potential one-year rental? Seems like a stretch. The only way I see it happening is if it is part of a larger deal that involves more players and/or picks, or possibly in a straight player-for-player trade. 


If nothing goes down I think there's a chance Graham is released, but only if the Eagles somehow acquire another outside linebacker that they feel they can rely on. He might not be an ideal fit but Graham does have some value as a pass rusher and the Eagles are already thin at OLB as is. 

Bryce Brown is also a possibility. I'm betting that both Vinny Curry and Evan Mathis stay put. 

I'm sure the Eagles would be open to adding another nose tackle to the mix but it won't be out of desperation. They're really high on Bennie Logan.

"When you first see Bennie, he's 6-1, but he easily has a frame that can withstand 320 pounds," said Howie Roseman back at the combine. "He's got 34-inch arms, he's got really big hands; his wingspan is actually six inches bigger than his height...We think Bennie did a tremendous job as a rookie. He's incredibly strong, he's athletic. He's got a very bright future."

Logan started eight games as a rookie and ended with 43 tackles (two for a loss), a pair of sacks and seven hurries. As you can tell by Roseman's quote, the team feels he has a lot of room to grow as a player. The Eagles could use more quality options to be part of the defensive line rotation, but I think they would be comfortable returning with the starting trio of Logan, Fletcher Cox and Cedric Thornton.

Asked about this for you, Dan. Eagles spokesperson said: "Proximity and they are in the other conference. Nothing too complicated." So there you go.

Chip Kelly volunteered at the owners meetings that developing depth behind DeMeco Ryans and Mychal Kendricks is "kind of a priority for us." I think there is a good chance they will add an inside linebacker in this draft.

As Sheil mentioned recently, Ryans played the most snaps of any linebacker in the NFL last season. He was the on-field conductor for Billy Davis' brand new defense, which is part of the reason he rarely came out. It likely also had something to do with the options behind him.

Ryans will be 30 in July. He is slated to make $6.8 million over each of the next two years. His contract is up after the 2015 season.

The reserve linebackers currently on the roster include Emmanuel Acho, Najee Goode, Jake Knott (who is suspended for the first four games), Casey Matthews and Jason Phillips.

The Eagles seem to have some real interest in Montana LB Jordan Tripp, though they might have to spend a second-day draft pick to get him. Whether it's Tripp or someone else, there's reason to believe the Eagles will be on the lookout for some inside linebacker help.

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  • Tikkit

    Draft day 7th is about all you could reasonably get for BG. Productivity and value vs. draft pick equal low return.

    • damrvrhunter

      So you would not do the deal right?

      • oreofestar

        for a 7th I would definitely thin about it depending on who is there

      • peteike

        I would for a 6, not a 7. What do they get as a compensatory?

        • Malcolm Jones

          That is high way robbery, everyone knows that the only issue is the conversion to a 3-4. In my opinion it was hard for Trent to transition so it was probably equally hard for Graham as well. He now should know the scheme well enought to not be hesitant. He can react rather than thinking about what he needs to do, he can do exercises to give himself the burst he needs at OLB and he now knows whats expected of him and what he has to do in his role. Remember Trent is a vet and still has a good motor, plus he was the starter getting the reps. Graham should have the mental part down and should have more gas to physically excell and spell Cole.

        • GEAGLE

          Like a 5th in the 2016 draft

          • Adam G

            Fantasy. Look at the list from this year. He’s nowhere near a 5th unless he plays lights out this year.

      • Ark87

        Depends on if we had secured another pass rusher when the offer is made. Brandon graham at the very least is an NFL caliber pass-rusher. It would be nice to get something for a player who doesn’t fit and will be leaving us shortly anyway, but one more year of service from a solid pass rusher trumps a 7th round pick clawing to make the roster. Now if we pick up a nice pass rusher and BG becomes expendable….then we lose some trade leverage as our trade partner thinks we are bound to cut him anyway.

        • damrvrhunter

          I could not have written it better myself.

  • Andy

    I think they should keep BG on the roster if for no other reason than to be Bennie Logan’s workout partner.

    • Philly0312

      I keep hearing the BG isn’t an ideal fit for OLB – but honestly, when he was on the field last year I didn’t see him get regularly exploited in the passing game by any means. He was more effective as a pass rusher than cole, while still effective against the run. If BG starts 16 last year, I would be surprised if he didnt get 10 sacks or more. Not sure it’s sane to get rid of him. Cole makes more sense to me. But hey, I’m not the coach.

      • Malcolm Jones

        This is where I am at. I sit there and say that in the 4-3 Brandon Graham was good against the run and as a pass rusher and then in the 3-4 he did good when he was in there…Let Brandon Graham get a chance at it.

      • cliff henny

        was it saints game he made heck of a great 1v1tackle on RB in a swing pass.

        • Philly0312

          Saints or Cowboys. He showed up when he was in as far as I was concerned.

        • GEAGLE

          He was really making some plays down the stretches he got more comfortable,…bringing him back to see what he can do with some continuity isn’t the worst the thing in the world…

      • GEAGLE

        I have no clue what his ceiling is as an OLB in our scheme…but ii will say he wasn’t bad last year in the opportunities he was given, and the dude cares and works hard enough to where I would be comfortable assuming he will be better if you give him another summer to adjust to his new role…I don’t mind keeping him, at all….but I find it had to believe we would extend him to keep him long term….if you can get a decent pick for him you trade him, but I doubt you can get more than a 6th rounder for him,…players at his position get PAID in free agency, so you can let him walk in next eye are free agency and we will most likely get a 5th or possibly even a 4th round compensatory pick….now if we are struggling to get extra picks in this draft, it may be worth taking the extra 6th for him…but if we can trade back a few times, to get some extra picks, I’d hold on to him to get a higher compensatory pick next year

        • Malcolm Jones

          I wouldn’t lock him down for the long haul unless he becomes some freak at OLB… but if he is productive he is probably better than anyone you can pick with a 6th in the draft, unless that 6th is used to move up.

        • Adam G

          Literally 0% chance we get a 4th rounder as a compensatory pick, most likely a 6th for Graham, which isn’t going to come until 2016. Don’t think that should come into the equation when thinking about trading him or keeping him.

        • TXEaglesFan

          Aren’t FA comp picks determined by the value of who you lost versus who you pick up? In other words even if Graham signed somewhere else, if the Eagles sign a player who is deemed to have greater or equal value there is no compensation.

          • Adam G

            Correct, it is net losses vs gains. Geagle doesn’t seem to quite understand that or apply it to his many theoretical trade ideas.

          • GEAGLE

            Yes kind of….but it should be pretty evident by now that we won’t be making any crazy free agent splashes……which sucks for fans, but will work in our favor when it comes to the compensatory pick equation…..now if our owner was Dan Synder, it would be a different story because you know he will spend a lot of money on free agents every year..l

        • damrvrhunter

          Are you sure you get COMP picks on expiring rookie contracts?

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah, that’s exactly what you get them for….for example, we cut Desean, and he just signed for Big money, but we won’t get anything for that….it’s a way to get something in return for losing players you drafted to free agency….we signed Brad Fletcher, so when his contract expires, if he signs with another team, we won’t get anything in return….for example, next year, we won’t be getting many comp picks. Because I doubt anyone is signing Colt Anderson or Coleman to mega deals…we lost Gaethers and Chung. But we didn’t draft them so won’t be compensated for it

          • Adam G

            Your understanding of compensatory picks is so off base, I don’t even know where to start. Has nothing to do if you draft them or not. And the fact you included Chung is absurd, he was cut. Just google it if you keep on referencing them.

  • Rahkem

    1st Round Pick 22- CB Kyle Fuller – VT
    2nd Round pick 22 – S Jimmie Ward – NIU
    3rd Round Pick 22 – WR Martavis Bryant – CLEM
    4th Round Pick 22 – OLB Larry Webster -
    4th Rund Pick 30 (NE) – CB Phillip Gaines
    6th round pick 22 – OT Kevin Graf
    7th Round Draft Pick – TE Colt Lyerla

    My Ideal Draft being realistic as to what i think will happen , there are guys id rather have but not that i think arerealistic.

    • Maggie

      Why on earth would they take a corner with the first of only 6 picks? Surely an OLB is more important than waiting until the 4th round? Then another corner?

      • Rahkem

        Theres no OLB worth taking at 22 , its just not a need thats gonna get filled this year with an immediate starter unless yo have a top 15 pick. Larry Webster is a great athelete with upside any OLB in the 1st would be a reach unless barr falls to us somehow. our better off sticking with what you have and trying to strengthen your rotation Guys like Dee ford arent the answer they need time to develop. Fuller is an IMMEDIATE upgrade over bradley fletcher .

        • Tommy McCabe Jr

          Webster is a DECENT prospect, but not at OLB. He’s working out as a TE.

          • Rahkem

            looks like we just brought him in for a workout , i agree

      • guest

        Jesus. There are still fans that think this way?

        GOOD TEAMS TAKE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE, REGARDLESS OF POSITION. TEAMS THAT DRAFT BASED ON NEED END UP WITH DANNY WATKINS AND JAIQUAWN JARRETT.

        They’ll take a CB with the first pick if the best player available is a CB. Last year, Safety was the biggest need, and they didn’t take one until the 5th.

        Rahkem’s draft would be solid. I dont know much about Webster, and after Jarvis Landry’s pro day, I’d like to see Fuller, Ward, and then OLB Marcus Smith in the 3rd and Jarvis Landry in the 4th.

      • Malcolm Jones

        Teams no longer draft a guy who will stay and retire with the team he begin with. Team turnover happens so often now days that it is better to just take best available every year so that ultimately the roster gains the best talent everyyear. Doing this should save teams from becoming a black hole compared to the rest of the NFL.

    • Amar (India)

      No Moncrief ?? oooh, you gonna hear from someone real soon :)

    • GEAGLE

      If they were to take Fuller, I really doubt they go Ward in round 2….then again, I doubt they draft DBs before the 4th or 5th, but I like Fuller, I wouldn’t be mad to see us draft him, but I’d be shocked if they did…

  • CJ

    They won’t cut Graham. He’ll provide some depth at a reasonable rate, and keeping him on the roster at least means they’ll be eligible for a comp pick when he kills it in someone else’s 43 scheme in 2015.

    • peteike

      ya makes sense but I also dont get why a team wouldnt trade a late pick for a guy they have good film on. So hes a FA following year. If he does well in that season on your team you can try to make a deal to keep him. It gives them a leg up to land a solid player for years but I guess its the risk of him testing FA? has to be I guess

      • GEAGLE

        Dude, a career back up Everson Griffin just got 20mil in GUARENTEED money in free agency….so a team has to really like BG to want to give up a rookie they can control for 4years from a deep draft, for a guy they are going to have to make a financial commitment to keep after the next season…
        .,
        And I’m not sure what tim is talking about, including Graham in a deal with other players and picks…he must be thinking of the NBA, because that doesn’t happen very often in this league

        • cliff henny

          all he missed was taking on bad contracts, and it was 100% NBA

        • Philly0312

          What are you talking about? Eagles do a a player for player trade every year. Sometimes its player for player with picks. It’s more common with backups than stars.

          • GEAGLE

            OMG, seriously? That’s how you answer my post? WTF….we don’t do player for player deals…we do garbage for garbage deals! as in we will trade you a player we are going to cut! for a player you are going to cut, so that we can get a first hand look at someone else’s garbage instead of letting them hit waivers….when we make that trade we usually aren’t expecting the player we are trading for to even make our roster…just so happens we were thin at DL so gaethers earned a spot…..you can get better Value losing Graham in free agency next year, then trading him for a player some team plans on cutting….try again

          • Philly0312

            I’m not “trying”. You just restated what I said, but like an a-hole instead of like a calm and reasonable individual.

          • GEAGLE

            Well when you start of your post coming at my neck, what do you expect?

          • Philly0312

            I didn’t come at your neck at all. I am simply pointing out is very feasible to see a player for player deal with BG. BG is currently a back up with a salary exceeded 3mil this season, who has plenty of tape to show he can play. A player for player deal likely won’t happen, but that is more to do with the salary than the player. Backups are traded all the time.

          • Dom

            Geagle- you need time away from the internet…and maybe steroids. Chill out man. You desperately want to share your football intelligence but you’re simply coming across as an a-hole…over and over and over again.

          • Johnny Domino

            Well, Joe Banner does have time on his hands and he is smarter than the rest of us. I wonder ……….

          • myeaglescantwin

            they did have a trade for Geathers last year, while moving that fullback to the colts. daryl tapp was also in a player for player trade right? // so unlikely but possible.

          • myeaglescantwin

            Gibson and amendola were both in trades like this too.
            what we thought were camp bodies. Nothing spectacular.

        • peteike

          ya I was kind of asking there. Only thing to rebutt that would be you think you are paying for top end talent vs gambling on the no risk/cheap draft pick that may not pan out. I guess you kind of said that, theyd have to really like him. Some guys like BG and Curry seem to have that possibility. Or is that just us Eagles fans who see it that way.

          • GEAGLE

            No no no…curry has real value around the league…not so much value that he is worth trading…but you can get a 5th maybe 4th for Vinny, because the team trading for him, still gets a few more years of his rookie deal…,it’s not out of the question, that a team sees how we jerked Graham around and looks at it as getting a Longterm answer at DE for cheap, but I think the team would have to seriously consider him as a long term option, for them to give up a pick for him….unless maybe a contender like Atlanta who plays a 4-3 and is weak at DE, looks a him as a 1yr stop gap, since I assume they think of themselves as contenders….either way, we ain’t getting anything close to what we invested in him, in return…

          • James Skip Carl

            Don’t say Earl Thomas

          • myeaglescantwin

            Trading away Curry would be a mistake. he gets the best penetration from our DL and is really young. I think that kid has a bright future ahead. I’m interested to see what he comes into training camp weighing. If he’s in the 290′s, that can be a scary player.

            the only way that i would consider trading him a win, is if he was packaged into the Jordan deal with some return draft selections. He could be a more than capable starter in a 4-3.

        • guest

          You mean like how the Texans traded DeMeco and a 4th round pick for a better 4th round pick? It happens all the time.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol hahahahahah check your facts…and get a screen name dude, so I know who to minimiZe

          • aub32

            I think you got that wrong dude.

  • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

    ILB- Khairi Forte- CAL(transfer from PSU) Projected 4th-5th. Bigger stronger Kendrycks. Reads and attacks. Sheds blocks very well. Also very solid in coverage. Watched a cut up of him this morning and fell in love. See for yourself …..

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tRQ2hhZhbiA&rdm=12hj2c1cm&layout=mobile&client=mv-google

  • Scott J

    I think the question about the Jets was why at the END of preseason. It always seems to be the last preseason game. `

    • Ark87

      Proximity, again. No one wants to have major travel on their schedule just before the regular season. Clearly both organizations find this arrangement agreeable.

      Using the same principles mentioned by the Eagles spokesperson, though…It would be nicer to play the Ravens annually, they tend to have a nicer roster top to bottom…and I think they are closer, I believe.

      • Scott J

        No team travels far for preseason games.

        • Ark87

          None travel far in the finale if they can help it. But plenty hop in a plane weeks prior. We just avoid that rush to find a nearby partner every year with a nice little arrangement with the jets. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000157357/article/2013-nfl-preseason-schedule

          • GEAGLE

            Vick vs, Barkley! should be interesting…
            …,
            You guys heat Antonio cromarties interview? Was shocked to hear him praise Sanchez so much and talk about how they never gave him a fair shot! and he expects Sanchez to surprise people in the future….I couldn’t believe what I was hearing…

            But Deangelo Williams interview was awesome. he BLASTED panthers GM. Talking about how he better bring in new WRs after getting rid of all their qualities WRs..basically, he was like no disrespect to Avant or Cotchery, but GM better do his friggin Job so I don’t see 10 in the box all year(paraphrasing). Check out his interview, pretty entertaining

          • Ark87

            that Jet’s locker-room was surprisingly split over Sanchez (I would expect the entire team to hate the guy sucking at the most important position on the team, and also happens to be playboy who seems more interested in modeling than football). Rex really loved the guy, and a lot of his teammates really liked him too, must be a likable guy. I wonder if he could be better than Barkley with some help from CK and his system. Or maybe he is ruined.

            As for Carolina, I haven’t heard that one yet, but that GM earns all the sh!t he gets. Cutting Steve Smith was the least of his crimes.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah I’m really really surprised to see the way the Jets reacted to losing the butt fumble..I could understand if an OL stuck up for him, but I doubt Sanchez and a CB were best of friends, so it’s a good sign…of course I have to see (tomato)-CANchez play well to believe it……

            But you will def get a kick out of Deangello Williams comments…we were pissed about losing Desean lol, imagine going to the playoffs for the first time side biakabutuka was your RB(that can’t be right lol), having a young QB who just started coming into his own,and your GM gets rid of Steve Smith,Ted Ginn and LaFell lol….how the hell do you take a developing QBs top 3 WRs away all at once? That’s like if Chip cut Desean and let Cooper and Maclin leave in free agency after we just made the playoffs? Riots would still be going on in Phlily

          • peteike

            ya its crazy, interested to see how Lafell does with NE. Always thought that guy had a load of potential that was yet to pan out.

          • Ark87

            Just listened to it. That dude is awesome! He’s on point, pretty smart dude. I couldn’t imagine an Eagle spitting truths like that.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol…he would be Howies nightmare

  • GEAGLE

    The NT we add is Deandre Coleman….bet that

    • oreofestar

      Uuum you can’ bet anything about the draft

      • GEAGLE

        Should be allowed to….it be a cash cow for book makers. It’s so damn hard to predict…warren Buffet can make a billion dollar offer like he did with the perfect march madness pool…like 10million to mock the entre round 1 correctly, and no one would ever win…..people bet on anything, I’m surprised no one is taking bets on the draft yet….

        If I was forced to pick 1 player who will end up with the eagles from the draft In money pool, I would take Coleman hands down and there is no one Else I would even consider picking..
        ..l
        PAC 12
        Chip tried to recruit him(allegedly)
        6’5 315lbs, Long freak Bennie Logan type arms
        Strong enough to anchor against a double team, without being that fat sloppy 340lber who can’t transition between different fronts
        Tough, Durable, Plays thru injury
        Versatile enough to play NT or DE
        Basically a taller Bennie Logan clone who you can get in the 5th round

  • peteike

    Kap incident. Did these guys take notes from Sharper, wtf. Sounds like other guys could be in hot water more so but who knows at this point. May end up just going away, details seem fuzzy, oops thats a bad pun.

    “According to the report, the incident occurred April 1 when a woman went to Lockette’s apartment in Miami at 9 p.m. Kaepernick and Patton were there, and the woman made drinks and served shots to the players. She was also told “to drink the shots she had to “hit” the bong which contained marijuana,’ the report said.

    The report continues to say that the woman felt light headed and went to a bedroom where she was later joined by Kaepernick, with whom she had a sexual relationship in the past. Kaepernick then left the bedroom. The two did not have sex, she said in the report. The report says that Patton and Lockette peeked inside the bedroom and that the woman yelled at them to get out.

    According to the report, the woman does not remember anything about the night after that. She woke up in a hospital bed not knowing how she got there. The woman, whose name is redacted, reported the incident to police on April 3.”

    • Malcolm Jones

      This is why most players get engaged and settle down after being drafted….whether woman lied or the men are just idiots… they make too much money to put themselves in this situation.

      • GEAGLE

        I’d straight up video tape every interaction and make woman sign waivers before hand lol….I’m sure there are some scumbag athletes, but I’m also sure there are plenty of woman predators, pretending to be prey

        • cliff henny

          I try that now, probably for different reasons and a lot less zero’s in my bank account

          • GEAGLE

            You almost have to these days….it don’t matter what’s the situation…if there is an issue, between a man and a woman. The man is automatically behind the 8ball…She could break into your house, key your car, and you do nothing but call the police, and the cops are still looking at you as the culprit

          • damrvrhunter

            But it is better that we live in these modern times versus back in the day when we owned and routinely smacked them around with zero liability. Now and then some guys pay the price for the over correction.

          • GEAGLE

            Speak for yourself..I wouldn’t mind living in the cave man days lol jk

        • NickS1
    • cliff henny

      sounds like she tried to play with the bigboys and ended up face down in the gutter.

  • Amar (India)

    We either need a new NT or a new scheme…still kills me to see how our D-Line was pushed back 3-4 yards every time the Saints ran a QB sneak.

    • cliff henny

      for about the 1m’th time, Eagles were in nickel, it wasn’t on Logan. Davis, PM 24/7 igglesblitz or just about any site had articles dispelling this notion

      • GEAGLE

        Thank you…I refuse to ever discuss this again…if you don’t know by now…then so be it…. Go watch Dontari Poe’s rookie year, and then go watch our DLs play from the previous 8 weeks…it should be a prerequisite for anyone who wants to bad mouth our young DL

        • Javi Echie

          Some delusional fans just don’t get it brotha. Logan was rookie inserted mid season. I guess people also don’t realize that players can improve from the rookie to sophomore year or that it is a possibility to gain weight in life lol some stupid people

          • cliff henny

            possible to gain weight? if Hals needs help with that, I can help there

          • Javi Echie

            lol touché sir.

          • GEAGLE

            Kelce said we are currently in the bulk up phase of Hulls program..Wish reporters stopped chasing Deseans gang affiliates around, and start finding out where Kruger!Logan and Curry are at in terms of weight…Kelce too, who is focusing on adding size,,.
            ..
            Think it’s very exciting that Kelce,Todd and JP will spend the offseason following hulls offseason program, instead of having to rehab injuries like they were this time last year

          • Javi Echie

            Yes this is exactly what I been saying this whole offseason. Everyone in year two of the program with Hulls and year 2 in the scheme this o-line is gonna be a problem for opposing teams. Toddfather really stepped it up second half of the season so I am hoping for no early season struggles this year, Kelce and JP are gonna be animals this year especially if Kelce can gain a couple pounds but keep that great speed of his. I would also like to know what Lane is up to and how he is spending his offseason and who he is training with cause as good as he was if he refines his technique he is gonna be great. I’m just a simple football fan who is really excited about both offensive and defensive lines going into next year.

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t think we have seen the best any of our players have to offer yet…such a young team, bunch of new free agents to incorporate last year, new coaches, drastically different schemes which require you to play the game using different techniques…it’s impossible to have seen the best our guys have to offer yet…we could have done nothing, but just brought back all out players land we still would have been better next year….

          • GEAGLE

            It’s just crazy…if people have a clue. Your comment would be Rec 1000times by 6pm

        • Amar (India)

          I’m good with that, we need to have someone else behind him to keep him motivated and add depth.

      • JofreyRice

        I don’t know what Tommy Lawlor’s opinion of Benny Logan is, but if you watch that game, you can sure figure out what Sean Payton’s was. They gave up some runs in nickel, sure, but they also ran right at Logan on short yardage throughout the entire game–when they weren’t in nickel–and had a ton of success. Including on the last drive, when everyone in the Linc knew they were running the ball.

        If he’s going to be a 2 gap Nose Tackle, he’s gotta anchor better than that in short yardage.

        • GEAGLE

          Can’t discount his previous 8 weeks, and put more emphasis on the first playoff game in a kids career against all pro guard..Espeially at THAT position…BIG NTs need time to adjust to the NFL, if we are going to roll with an undersized one, we have to give him some time and deal with a few growing pains…this year should give us a much better idea of what we have with him…he has a year against grown men double teams under his belt, he will be playing ATleast 10lbs heavier and stronger than he was last year..I’m sure he will be less susceptible to crafty veteran tricks…….if we are going to rule out NTs after rookie years, it will be years before we ever find one…I’m not oblivious to the improvements that he needs to make, but I don’t understand how people don’t think he had a promising looking season especially at that position…

          • JofreyRice

            Yeah, that’s fine, and understandable. But it must improve, if that’s going to be his role going forward. He’s going to occasionally go up against very good guards. If anchoring against those guys continues to be a weakness, other smart coaches are going to exploit it. Definitely not “ruling him out”, but I think the criticism of his play in that game is fair.

          • Token

            I went back and looked at my post about that mythical streak of great run defense that keeps getting brought up. Here it is.

            “-Raiders Jennings crushed us on the ground. Plus Pryor had 100 yards

            Played GB without a QB.

            Washingtons Morris goes for 100

            Cards Rashard freaking Mendenhall almost has 100

            Detroit blizzard game and not a running team. No Bush

            Vikings no Peterson, didnt need him anyway

            Bears wasnt even a game. Think they ran under 10 times

            Dallas, well they shut down Murray. Awesome.

            Saints….ran at will. It was their gameplan. They saw a weakness and exploited it all day.”

          • GEAGLE

            Oh it absolutely has to improve…it has to SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE..but so does the play of Lane Johnson, Zack Ertz and Earl Wolff….if we are being honest, Lane at his position didn’t have some drastically better year than Logan, yet I don’t have to listen to fans talk about wanting to replace Lane…I’m sure Logan played at his lightest weight last year then he will ever play with..is a good. Hard working kid that showed some nice potential anchoring a line made up of a bunch of puppies who played some pretty solid ball down the stretch..,Don’t get why fans will give Lane the benefit of the doubt! and give him time to grow yet act like the sky is falling at NT? Think Lane and Logan had similar rookie seasons.Held their own for the most part, showed some things to like, showed some things to work on…..we only have 1 NT. I mean, it’s no secret that Squares can’t be Logan’s backup, so another NT is on the way for sure…. I just don’t get the fans who saw so little promise in Logan that they think they have to spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick on one, or wanted to spend 6mil a year signing one in free agency…we need Logan to get bigger. Stronger, and craftier, and we need another NT to back him up and push him thru competition…but I don’t see why this is some major need that we can’t wait til the 5th round to adress

          • Token

            We have been through this. They played nobody. Go look at those 8 magical weeks you harp on. Junk RBs and teams missing their best player or players. Its a farce.

        • Will

          And the answer is Daniel McCullers 6’7″ 352 lbs of pure 2 gaping DT…can play all along the line…

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t think so….
            Not that I’m oposed to having him on our team…I just think it’s silly to spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick addressing the issue..doubt we can get McCullers in the 5th round, but I would LOVE to be wrong and see him added in the 5th round…but I have no interest in adding him in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th

          • Will

            figure he’d be gone by rd 4…late 3rd rd or early 4th rd…big man eats double teams great bull rush frees up player’s around him to make plays…I could see putting Logan and Thornton out there to bookend the big man…wow can only hope…

          • GEAGLE

            Thats my problem with him….love to see him on our roster, just don’t see how we can afford one of our few early picks on him….I think Deandre Coleman is perfect NT addition, but if he ends up going in round 3, I wouldn’t want him either….If we have to spend a 4th on DL, I would prefer a promising DE like Brent Urban. Like I said a million times, I think our PRIORITY this offseason for the defensive side of the ball is, Improving our ability to get off the field on 3rd down…a NT is the last player on defense that helps us improve in that aspect, so i can’t possibly believe we will add a NT before the 5th round, when the eagles view Logan as promising

          • Will

            Your Picks:

            Round 1 Pick 6 (ATL): Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina (A)
            Round 1 Pick 22: Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss (C)
            Round 2 Pick 22: Deone Bucannon, SS, Washington State (A-)
            Round 3 Pick 22: Bashaud Breeland, CB, Clemson (A)
            Round 4 Pick 22: Justin Ellis, DT, Louisiana Tech (C)
            Round 5 Pick 22: Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan State (D+)
            Round 7 Pick 22: Cairo Santos, K, Tulane (B-)

          • GEAGLE

            HAha sign me up!!! Switch breeland with Exum and Ellis with Coleman, and you are talking about my wet dream :)

          • Will

            Is Antone Exum healed up from his knee surgery? The Combine has Coleman ranked much higher than Ellis…

          • GEAGLE

            Yes, he isn’t a case of drafting him and having to stick him on IR like Colvin….the question with him is will this other year removed from the injury bring back his speed that made him such a promising press corner…he would play corner at 6’0 213lb(kid is all muscle)…I think he is such a good pick for us because let’s say he doesn’t get that next level of speed back to make him a quality CB, he has 3 years of free safety experience under his belt, and he easily bulks back up to 6’0 220lbs of muscle no plays safety for us..,,so one way or another, he will help our secondary….if we had probowl safeties already I’d be more hesitant to draft him,but whether he plays CB at 213lbs, of safety at 220lbs, that kid can still help us….quality physical tackler…if he didn’t get hurt, we would be talking about a 2nd or 3rd round CB….hopefully we can get him in the 5th, even 4 would be worth it…

            Now that Clemsons T/G tore his ACL the other day. I wouldn’t mind getting a top 50 talent like him who you have to IR for a yet in the 5th round…

          • Will

            You mean Brandon Thomas the OG wore rip up his knee at private work out for the saints? 4 weeks away from the draft kid has got to be sick…

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah…well he played OT, but projects as an OG in the NFl…like Justin Pugh…kid could really play, as in I wouldn’t have been shocked to see him sneak into the end of round 1 to settle..kid can play…feel horrible for the kid…what round did Ozzie Newsome get Brennan 2illiams in last year.? 4th or 5th I think? Which is why I assumed Thomas would fall to that range now….he probably just became a prime candidate to help the Niners spend some of their draft picks…I sure as hell don’t mind taking a 2nd round guard and sticking him on IR for the year…

          • Will

            yeah they are talking 5th rd now for him and to SF..hear the trade news about a 2rd pick and Graham for Dion in Miami…Miami wants a 1st rd for deal to get done…

          • GEAGLE

            I’d do it,for a first…look at it this way, you can’t use BG and the #22nd pick to get Anthony Barr,,,and Dion is better than every other OLB prospect,.not to mention I don’t even like the players that will be available in 22 range…I would be skeptical If only Chip and Azz thought highly of Dion…but he isn’t Gambles former player and he thinks the world of him as a 3-4 OLB…the only reason I would hope to keep our first rounder. Is to try and trade back and turn it into a second and an extra 3rd….

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          Yea, no chance at all he’ll improve from rookie form with half a season of play.

          He is what he is…

          • JofreyRice

            Don’t quite understand the sarcasm, I never said he was incapable of improving. I just disagreed with the statement that he had no issues anchoring against the Saints.

      • Amar (India)

        I understand we played “mostly” Nickel, however, that was not the case during the 4th and 1, 3rd and inches plays. We had our base 3-4 personnel on the field during those plays.
        Had we played nickel during short yardage situations, we would definitely need a new DC.

      • Token

        What a lazy excuse that is. Its damn near the same personnel. And does being in nickel make Logan get blown off the ball more or less than in base?

        Ive been over the magical 8 weeks run Geagle and others like to harp on too. They didnt stop anyone. Its make believe. Their run D must get better period. That starts with some better line play. And they will need better ILB play too. I dont want to let those guys off the hook.

        Maybe Logan is the guy. This draft should tell us their intentions. I like that Logan can really play across the line. But in this scheme they want to run, assuming its the same as last year going forward, you need a block eater at NT that can control the point of attack. The need for a guy that can be moved and is versatile isnt necessary. If he cant do that one job it doesnt matter how versatile he is.

        Now maybe they are changing up the scheme a bit this year, who knows. But if not I have a hard time seeing Logan as the guy at NT unless hes really yoked up this offseason, which I guess is possible.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        Stupidity is a major health epidemic, you should sympathize not criticize

  • peteike

    Eli had ankle surgery, back running in 6 weeks since hes so fleet of foot. So thats why he threw all those INTs mustve been his plant foot, ya right

  • cliff henny

    in the ‘it never hurts to ask’ category…

    http://www.pottsmerc.com/sports/20140409/grotz-trading-for-jordan-would-make-sense-for-eagles
    .
    pull out part that matters…
    .
    The Eagles are said to have included a second-round pick and linebacker-defensive end Brandon Graham. For now Jordan is still part of the Dolphins, who say they’re going to find a way to get him more snaps next season.

  • Tom W

    If they draft this stiff Tripp from Montana over say a Christian Jones or Preston Brown or even Barrow from LSU I won’t be happy. Lets keep the small school early draft picks for Fat Andy. UDFAs are fine from wherever but not high draft picks.

    • dnabrice

      Brian Westbrook??????

      • Maggie

        Jerry Rice??? Joe Greene???

    • oreofestar

      Oooooh we got another Preston fan :)

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      Go watch tripp before making dumb small-school comments.

  • Tom W

    Hey Sheil/Tim — Any chance of starting a Birds 24/7 readers mock draft from pick 1-32 daily by displaying each nfl teams needs based on needs identified by nfl.com and local beat reports …. then set up a voting mechanism each day. Walter football.com does this as well. obviously maybe spend a couple days on eagles pick. think we have close to 32 days left as well.

  • travis papa

    I think we can all agree Trent Cole will not be back next yr especially with his contract ballooning and his age. If we also let graham walk that leaves us with 2 OLBs on the entire roster being barwin & braman barring who we add in the draft. In that case we need to draft atleast 2 OLBs or 1 olb and 1ilb/olb. Murphy shazier van noy jones any 2 of those 4 is fine. Me personally you have to give Graham the starting job if he is close to earning it & see if there is something there & let Cole play the reserve role which will keep him fresh down the stretch to help with his age plus being able to make an educated decision on Graham once and for all. BTW grahams contract makes very little sense to outright cut especially as thin as we are at that spot

  • Kev_H

    The 49ers are in the market for a reliable, franchise QB.

  • cliff henny

    ESPN is like dog with a bone on Kaep reports. when I make my 3rd billions, and buy the Eagles, i’m instituting either off-season cruise ship or isolated island policy.

    • GEAGLE

      I’m specifically avoiding ESPN since I heard the rumor

      • paul from nc

        How about avoiding this sight?

    • Ark87

      I would say only wives/family allowed to accompany but….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGbjV2moEOM

      Should probably make it players-only…

      • cliff henny

        I would make it the 2nd coming of Caligula’s Rome. 4 months of free reign, then detox month, have the players so sick of food, women, booze and drugs, all they’d want to do is go from NovaCare center to football field. be Kelly and his 53 football disciples

  • Will

    Eagles Tried to Trade Brandon Graham and a Second Round Pick for Dion Jordan, per report

    By Brandon Lee Gowton

    @BrandonGowton

    on Apr 10 2014, 3:08p

    67 per BGN

    • GEAGLE

      If the dolphins would even consider eating that dead money without finding a taker for Mike Wallace, then we will pry him away by the draft….even if he fit their scheme the simply have no room for him, He ain’t taking snaps from Wake and the Kid Shelby had a breakout year and was probably the one bright spot from their season…Wheeler wasn’t cut, he got PAID so He won’t get benched, Misi is their best LB, and Ellerbe plays MLB…If they are willing to Eat the cap hit, we will get Dion but I don’t know that it has reached the point where we can assume they are ok with taking that cap hit

      Hearing they might cut Brandon Gibson, what impact would that have on their cap? Does it help a Dion trade or make it even less likely?

      • Will

        Report says if eagles are willing to give up Graham and our 1st #22 overall the deal could get done…Miami would eat 10 million salary cap hit if deal is done before the draft…report on BGN…Steep price but we would have are ROLB before the draft…would you do it Geagle?

        • GEAGLE

          God…wish BGN weren’t the only ones reporting it…but Brandon Gowton, interned for the eagles last summer so he may have made a connection or two in the building that would give him a real scoop….if Dion can be had! we will end up with him….especially when we would probably love to get an OLB at 22 and there are none to be had…

        • NickS1

          I’d give the first and BG for Dion and their 2nd, 3rd if I had to.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol I’d do it in a heartbeat, I like the players in round 2 and 3 more then I like the players at 22-28 range….I’d do #22 and BG for Dion and a 3rd all day….draft KVN and Chip can draft 5 offensive players for all I care

          • NickS1

            Pretty much where I was going haha

          • GEAGLE

            The only reason I would even fight to keep the #22 pick is so I could try and trade out of round 1 for a rd 2 and an extra 3rd….

        • Token

          Just trade up for a much better prospect named Anthony Barr. Its scary they would give up a 2nd for jordan. Means they get obsessed with a player for no good reason. Even after showing not a ounce of NFL ability in year 1.

          • cliff henny

            not an ounce…think one obsessed is you with being overly negative 24/7.

            .

            http://www.thechipwagon.com/eagles/2014/03/dissecting-dion-jordans-2013-season-part-2-outside-linebacker.html

          • GEAGLE

            What. Did the idiot say? I minimize all his comments before reading them

          • cliff henny

            the usual. he didn’t have 15 sacks, so he sucks. link gives great breakdown as to when Miami used Jordan in roles that Eagles would.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol..his opinion is more valuable than Tom gambles lol…got it

          • Token

            Chipwagon. Shocking. What do Spadaro and Lawlor think?. If not living in a fairy tale means im negative then i guess I am. Jordan is a soft player that doesnt rush the passer very well and has had injury problems even tho he only played like 46% of snaps since college . Not a fan. Gotta look past the height and combine numbers.
            By tge way….what do you think it says of a player when their team will eat 10 mil a year after taking him #3?

          • cliff henny

            there it is…don’t like the message, attack the messenger. probably didn’t even read it, but, it too sucks.

          • Token

            Ive seen plenty of Jordan to form my own opinion, i know weird concept. Can you and Geagle go back to telling us how good the run d is?

          • cliff henny

            show me where I said run D was good? typical Token, being shown you are being negative and shouldn’t be listened to, and switching argument to something I didn’t and haven’t ever said.
            .
            and why would anyone ever come to you for an informed opinion? a valid opinion is from someone who starts off unbiased. anyone who’s been on this board for more than 8 seconds knows for a fact that you aren’t that!

          • Token

            You may be right. I should just wait for Lawlor to give me my opinion. What game college or pro jumped out to you with Jordan. Why r u so high on him?

          • cliff henny

            haha, don’t like how the convo is going, attack the messenger.

          • Token

            Your in the business of attacking others for having strong opinions while never having much of your own. Atleast tell me why you personally like him. What games should i go back to?

          • ACViking

            Let’s assume Kelly covets Jordan. And would spent last year’s 1st on him. By all accounts, and Kelly’s hints, that’s what would have happened.

            Based on your comments, you don’t trust Kelly’s judgment.

            Were you against jettisoning DJax?

          • botto

            i dont think he woud’ve actaully taken jordan. he was just being nice saying stuff.
            we needed lane

          • Maggie

            Agree, it was last year. Some on here seem to think the proposed trade is current!

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahaha Dion was drafted LAST year…do you even watch football? Seriously? You posted this 4 times, do you realize how clueless you look?

          • Tommy McCabe Jr
          • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

            Straight up! The light may yet come on and he could start raising hell, but if we’re gambling. …. Trade Graham for whatever (you already gave up a pro bowler for nothing, so a 6 or 7th for Graham is a win.)Use the 2nd on an olb who’s just as question mark as Jordan is. And Graham can be packaged with a 2015 3rd/4th for a 3rd/4th this year. (BOOM That’s MO’MONEY! )

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I agree that Barr is a better prospect than Jordan, but Jordan was actually one of the better rated pass rushers in MIA according to PFF (pass rush efficiency) for a good part of last season (playing out of natural position as DE). Graham & a 2nd, was a decent offer. Moving up for Barr would most likely cost us our 1st & 2nd, possibly 3rd & maybe even a player, depending on where your trying to trade up to. Giving up your 2nd & basically a guy that doesn’t fit and would thrive in MIA, for a guy that doesn’t fit and would thrive in PHI, makes more sense AND could potentially cost you less than Barr. I’m not crazy about Jordan, but I do think he’s capable of much more in the right system.

          • Token

            https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/04/01/rookies-in-focus-dion-jordan/

            I think he pretty much is what I thought he was gonna be. A guy who cant get off blocks. Isnt a very good pass rusher. No moves. Will get shut out more often then not. Is weak at the point of attack. Will get overpowered in the run game.

            His best asset is being able to run with a TE. Woopie do. I just dont give a rip about that. Not for what we need. They need a difference making pass rusher. A guy that will be dropping back like 8-10% of snaps. I could care less how great he is at dropping. I care about how much he impacts the other teams passing game as a rusher.

            Its possible Jordan gets better and better. But all hes shown is what I saw at college. And again, keep in mind this is a guy that didnt even play many snaps in college. Less than half.

            The fact that Miami may be willing to eat 10 mil on a guy they just traded up for and drafted at #3 is all you need to know folks. This “bad fit” crap is just a excuse that the apologists want to believe. He could be a DE in that scheme. Worst comes to worse he could probably be a hell of a SAM LB in that scheme. Thats where I think he belongs. They could figure it out if they thought he was worth the trouble.

            Barr right now is a Superior prospect is almost every way IMO. He will need work too. But theres a better base you are starting with. The kid is more aggressive then Jordan. That counts for something at that position. Real nice bend. I see him as much more likely to be a high impact rusher than Dion Jordan.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Yes, that’s a season summary. I said a good part of last season. I’m not even that high on him as I have some of the same concerns, but I do understand that he was going to be an even bigger project at DE, than a project at LB. As I said, and said many times before, Barr is a far better pass rush prospect than Jordan. But that is like comparing a Camaro to a Lamborghini, because I think Barr is a superior talent. Meaning that with some proper coaching and continued development, increase in weight and strength, Barr’s an elite (top 3) player in this league. Jordan could be an above average pass rusher (top 8-12) with further development in a role that utilizes his natural abilities.

            I get what you’re saying about Barr. Believe me I do. I wish every day that his stock plummets. But I am not so willing to give up a king’s ransom for him in a draft where we’re light on picks to jump up to 10 ahead of TEN, if he’s there. Now if we’re talking about him still being there after 16, than yeah I’m picking up the phone. Barr is the ONLY guy I’m considering moving up for. After panning through the receiver prospects, I’m not really looking to move up for Evans or any other receiver for that matter. I do say to myself that I’d consider giving up our 1st & 2nd for a move up for Barr, as long as my remaining picks wield us a quality bigger WR, CB/S, ILB & OG. Which I think is still possible as this draft seems a round deeper than last year’s.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Last point is null
            New management, decimated OL (what the pick should have been last year), wrong scheme, and they didn’t expect Vernon to play so well.

          • Maggie

            The story actually states that the potential trade with Miami was a possibility last year.

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahahaha god you are clueless…posting three times how everyone is dumb and you are right? Dion was drafted last year you clueless simpleton, so you think they traded up for Dion and then we offered them graham? Hahahahaha just stop, please just stop….I’m starting to feel sorry for u

        • Will

          http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEViIcAUdTmF0Azw0PxQt.;_ylc=X1MDMjExNDcwMDU1OQRfcgMyBGJjawMwMDF0djl0OWswdXY4JTI2YiUzRDMlMjZzJTNEaTAEZnIDeWhzLWlyb25zb3VyY2UtZnVsbHlob3N0ZWRfMDAzBGdwcmlkA3h2YVN3amFhU1oyOXNjSTNNVURyZUEEbXRlc3RpZANudWxsBG5fcnNsdAMxMARuX3N1Z2cDMwRvcmlnaW4DdXMueWhzNC5zZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tBHBvcwMxBHBxc3RyA2JyYW5kb24gZ3JhaGFtIGJlbmNoIHByZXNzaW5nIDUwMARwcXN0cmwDMzMEcXN0cmwDMzcEcXVlcnkDYnJhbmRvbiBncmFoYW0gYmVuY2ggcHJlc3NpbmcgNTAwIGxicwR0X3N0bXADMTM5NzE2MzY1NzE4MAR2dGVzdGlkA251bGw-?gprid=xvaSwjaaSZ29scI3MUDreA&pvid=m0f0Bjk4LjEAB79PU0B76AZMNjguM1NHARz_07jo&p=brandon+graham+bench+pressing+500+lbs&fr2=sa-gp&hspart=ironsource&hsimp=yhs-fullyhosted_003&param1=yhsBeacon&param2=cd%3D2XzuyEtN2Y1L1QzutDtDtCtAyBtB0AyDyE0B0A0Ezy0DtAyCtN0D0Tzu0CyBtCtCtN1L2XzutBtFtBtFtCyEtFtCtAyBzytN1L1CzutCyD1B1P1R%26cr%3D417499919%26ir%3D15sec%26elng%3Den%26elcl%3Dus%26a%3Dirmsd1202%26uref%3Df0%26f%3D4%26cat%3Dweb%26sid%3D7a901ce3790461ab4c450af6fe16baf2%26cnc%3Dironsource_tb_intl_search%26sesid%3D%26abg%3D%26ipblock%3D0%26csr%3D0%26p%3Dmysearchdial&type=irmsd1202

        • Will

          I wonder if Miami saw this of Graham what beast that’s 500lbs…

          • GEAGLE

            Email it to Miami headquarters..do your part man!!

          • Will

            lol..I.should put it on there boards…

          • GEAGLE

            Barry Finkle says…..

          • Will

            ? Have to admit you lost me with that one…lol…

          • GEAGLE

            Barry Finkle says….”DO IT”(Benn stiller in Starsky and hutch”

    • anon

      Deepest draft ever and we’re giving away picks — talk about jumping for needs. Frankly i think if we’re giving up a second we have no inclination to stay in the first round.

      • Maggie

        It was last year.

        • GEAGLE

          Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha how many years has Dion been in the NFL?

        • oreofestar

          no it was 2 months ago, they drafted him last year who drafts a guy 3rd overall and trades him before he plays a snap for you I mean just think obviously it was not last year

          • GEAGLE

            Lol after maimi traded up to Draft Dion, Howie immediately called the dolphins, offered Brandon Graham, and a second rounder, but Miami said we would have to give up the 22nd pick this year, because Miami GMs magic 8 ball told them we would be picking #22 a year later….classic

    • Maggie

      Maybe if you actually read the piece? It clearly indicates that the potential trade was last year! NOT now!

      • GEAGLE

        LOL!!!!

  • Token

    Was told KB recently blew off workout w NFL coach who had made special trip, said he was too tired. – Gil Brandt

    Add it to the list of reasons I want nothing to do with this guy. Hes a dog.

    • Ark87

      Yeah that probably doesn’t fit what we’re trying to do here very well…any idea which coach?

    • Will

      I wonder which coach and for which team…

    • NickS1

      If it was for the Jets, Raider, or Cowboys, I’ll excuse it.

      • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

        Damn would he rot in a Jets uniform. Between Marty and those qbs?eHe’d never develope.

    • ACViking

      And this is true because Gil Brandt’s source told him?

      Maybe some team that wants Benjamin to fall?

      Benjamin already has too little room for error — age, experience, Combine numbers — to do something so stupid.

      Not that he didn’t.

      But taking Brandt’s source at his word — in the run-up to the draft — without any cross-check by Brandt is probably not the course NFL GMs are taking.

    • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

      Just what we need to stay the slide to the 4th!!! He won’t pull that shit on Chip.

  • Will
  • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

    Could’ve been lip service, but Graham was pretty vocal last year about understanding our disappointment, and wanting to redeem himself. I feel for the kid. He just doesn’t fit. We’re already making a project out of Vinny, and living with Trent’s shortcomings (4now), which Im happy about. Can only be so charitable. Somebody has to see value in him……” Paging Dr. Reid. …. Dr. Reid to the bargaining table…”

  • Eagles1018

    I wish the possibility of trade was for both guys in this articles picture

    • George

      Why woud we ever trade CASEY FRIGGEN MATTHEWS?? Dude is obvious first ballot HOF. FN idiots

      • oreofestar

        Yeah….but if they offer 9 1sts for Matthews and Sconces I take it but only if they throw in a former Texan

      • GEAGLE

        We are saving the franchise tag for Casey Mathews!!!!

        • oreofestar

          uuuuum….no Momah

          • Andy124

            Momathews

          • oreofestar

            that would be one dominant guard

  • Maggie

    Re’ Kaepernick, etc. Two 49ers and a Seahawk, according to Miami paper, picked up by philly.com. Almost sounds like she was drugged too. Says she woke up in hospital, so there must be witnesses. Booze and drugs. The usual as&&ole young males. Won’t keep it in their pants and think that drugging a woman unconscious then boinking her really makes them ever so clever real little mannie-boys. Don’t anybody give the crap that she was there willingly. So many young girls are taught that exposing themselves and being sexually available to anyone who wants them is their sole purpose for existing, and willing to go to a room with an old boyfriend is not the same as being willing to be drugged and hospitalized.

    • oreofestar

      yeah…I won’t judge until…facts

      • cliff henny

        what?! that’s no fun. Kaep’s guilty of something.

        • oreofestar

          as of right now he is only guilty of being an overrated, mediocre QB

          • cliff henny

            hope he gets 5yrs 100m, with about 60m guaranteed.

          • oreofestar

            lol I was hoping more 8 years 172mil 100mil guaranteed but in serious if this situation clears he will be looking at about 5 years 92mil with around 40 guaranteed

          • cliff henny

            looking at Flacco’s contract, his is crazy. what did he get,like 55m signing bonus? then with dead money he’s pretty much guaranteed to see 28m thru ’16. thenstill has huge money left to get restructured.

            .

            http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Joe Flacco&Position=QB&Team=Ravens

          • oreofestar

            disgusting I am hoping for a super friendly deal from our boy Foles lets say he wins a playoff game if we can get him for 6 years 96mil with like 35-40 guaranteed that would be good

    • travis papa

      She said she wasn’t sexually assaulted. Probably just a little freaked out she woke up in a hospital not knowing how she got there. Police even said there was no evidence of a crime or sexual assault just an incident report.

  • oreofestar

    Damn if we got Dion for a 2nd and Graham I would be doing cartwheels but that will not be the case, with all that dead money we either have to give up 22 or take on Wallace’s disgusting contract too the former I am not a fan of the latter is not an option

  • oreofestar

    Not saying I would or would not do it although I have a opinion just want to know who would do pick 50 and Dion for pick 22 and Brandon Graham

    • George

      Maybe… that feels like a bit of a raw deal for us, if they throqw in a 7th?

      • oreofestar

        Dion Jordan with 50,54,86 eliminating the teams biggest need uum hell yes, won’t happen but I friggin’ wish

    • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

      Nope. Id rather have: FORD, SMITH, VAN NOY, ATTAOCHU, all over Dion. Not necessarily in that order.

      • oreofestar

        Outside of Ford I like all of those players but there is no way I like any one more than Dion in that group besides Mack and maybe Barr no one comes remotely close to Dion not even my boy Ealy

    • GEAGLE

      Id rather have the 50th pick in this draft then the 22nd pick…and I’d trade my right arm for Dion.?need me to spell it out? :)

      • oreofestar

        Dion Jordan, Austin – Seferian Jenkins, Donte Moncrief, Christian Jones imagine them walking out of day 2 with those guys Chip would be going crazy

        • GEAGLE

          I would climb to the top of City hall and start beating my chest King Kong style

  • GEAGLE

    Yo, it’s Thursday, when are we doing the live draft? Saturday morning? 8 people would be perfect, we would each get to draft for 4 teams…I’m assuming Will,Oreo and George are in….we could use anywhere from 4 more people up to one person for each team…BUT we will just divy up the teams according to how many people are participating

  • Bob

    I know this is off topic and the wrong sport but man the Phillies bullpen is like the equivalent of the sixers every game it seems the pen blows it

    • oreofestar

      I can’t talk about baseball here only hockey, football, and basketball because *whisper* I’m not a Phillies fan

  • addicted2mula
    • oreofestar

      little late :P

      • addicted2mula

        Damn lol

      • Malcolm Jones

        you didnt have to burst his bubble lol…I dont know whether they leaked it because they failed or to get us to give up our 1st.

        • oreofestar

          I doubt we give up 22 straight up if we lose tha first rounder we will probably have to take there 2nd I said below to think about 50 and Dion for 22 and Graham

        • anon

          good way to let people know we’re looking to trade and need a pass rusher. How much would you pay for Robert Mathis?

  • oreofestar

    If the Cowboys want to trade up to 2 for Clowney that is amazing news because what they would have to give up would be intense I would think they would need to give up something similar to the Falcons for Julio which was 27th overall with a 2nd and 4th that year and 1st and 4th the next, if the Cowboys were to get Clowney and not pick again until the 3rd round and then the 5th while lacking a 1st next year for a player that I do not even think is the best defensive player in the draft then fine by me

    • cliff henny

      think the Jerr Bear just likes hearing his name in media. way too many holes, they need those picks. unless they think the 6 7th rounders will all be solid contributors. but, Dallas is in a hard spot, Romo is on the clock, they cant start drafting/building up for ’17, wont have qb then.

      • GEAGLE

        Even they can’t be that dumb

        • oreofestar

          I wish I can see it first pick of the draft TRADE Cowboys on the clock, select Clowney Cowboys get Clowney Texans get 16th pick 2 and 4th round picks 2015 1 and 4 and 2016 4 just wonderful :)

        • cliff henny

          seemed to have slightly smartened up this off-season. though, think damage was done, cap was just too banged up. love reading btb.com and how Ware wasn’t any good, which is true by end, but when Dallas got off to 5-2 or 5-3, he was playing well. thought is that 32nd ranked defense cant be worse without Ware and Hatcher when it most certainly can and probably will be.

  • TripSquadMonopoly

    Does anyone know how King Dunlap finished the season in San Diego? I remember him beasting the first couple of games…just curious to see if Chip made a mistake.

    • GEAGLE

      The mistake is assuming that just because he played well in the Chargers scheme that he would automatically flourish in ours…big King Dunlap and Fluker work for their power scheme, but they are not the types of OTs you want playing in our scheme

  • Oli Richford
  • myeaglescantwin

    We do need more depth at DL. nothing in the top of the draft though. We have our starters lined up. + a few of our rookies from last season are added to the rotation. Kruger and Curry should both see a jump in their physical make up from the offseason conditioning and training program. I heard kruger is pushing 305lbs now.

    I think we can nab a few younger/higher ceiling monsters late in the draft.
    that kid from Cal. ; the Oregon DE, & that dude Urban would all make sense after round 5.
    But I do feel we need a 340lb NT. I have nightmares about the saints killing us 3.5 yrds at a time in that 4th quarter.