Wake-Up Call: Mauro On Eagles’ Radar

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Chip Kelly
gravitated towards the familiar in his first NFL draft.

Four of the Eagles’ eight picks (Zach Ertz, Matt Barkley, Joe Kruger and Jordan Poyer) were from Oregon’s conference,  the Pac 12.  LSU, USC and Stanford were the three teams that beat Kelly over his final two years as head coach of the Ducks. The Eagles’ second, third and fourth-round picks in 2013 (Ertz, Bennie Logan and Barkley) were used on players from those three programs.

“I did notice that a little bit,” said Stanford defensive lineman Josh Mauro with a smile.


Mauro (6-6, 280) was part of a Stanford team that beat Oregon each of the past two seasons. He played all along the defensive front while with the Cardinal, compiling  nine sacks and 19.5 tackles for a loss since 2012.

The Hurst, Texas native is on the Eagles' radar. The team brass had an official visit with Mauro at the combine. That was the first time he and Kelly interacted since back on November of 2012 when Stanford handed Oregon its only loss of the season.

"Last time I think I saw him we were up in Eugene playing the number one team in the country, and we were able to pull that one out," said Mauro.

"You don't normally have a great relationship with the opposing head coach for the rival school in college. So no friendships in college, but that's not to be said for the NFL."

Mauro said that he spent the better part of four seasons two-gapping on tackles, and that 3-4 teams in the NFL are viewing him as a natural five technique. The Eagles look to be in pretty good shape at defensive end with Fletcher Cox and Cedric Thornton penciled in as the starters, but that's not to say that they won't add depth.

Mauro is projected to go in the fourth round this May.

"They have a great thing going on in Philadelphia right now," said Mauro, who played quarterback from   7th through 10th grade before being moved over to the defensive side of the ball. "[Kelly has] really transitioned that offense from college to the NFL and they are doing some good things defensively as well. He's done a great job up there and I think he'll continue to do more of it."

Here is NFL.com's breakdown of Mauro:

STRENGTHS

Big, well-built, projectable frame with little excess weight. Likes to play and it shows -- intense competitor. Is strong enough to anchor down and set the edge. Can neutralize the double team. Plays bigger than his size. Experienced in a pro-style, 3-4 front. Tough and durable. Good weight-room work ethic.

WEAKNESSES

Has never been a full-time starter. Mechanical, robotic movement. Needs to add some more bulk and bulk strength. Minimal pass-rush ability. Marginal foot quickness -- late to the outside. Limited athletic ability to create penetration.

WHAT YOU MISSED

As part of his Draft Daily series, Sheil takes a look at Indiana wide receiver Cody Latimer.

Developing depth at inside linebacker is a priority for Kelly.

Mel Kiper offers suggestions for the Eagles for rounds 1-3.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

In Jimmy Kempski's latest seven-round mock draft, he has the Eagles selecting Florida State linebacker Christian Jones in the second round.

At the Senior Bowl, Jones was by far and away the best pass rusher in 1-on-1 drills among the ILBs in attendance. His versatility in that regard is where Jones becomes really intriguing as a potential target for the Eagles. In the 2nd half of the 2013 season, Florida State started lining up Jones at DE, and he looked the part.

Dan Pompei writes that quality safeties are more valuable than ever because of the way the game has evolved.

Another safety scramble could ensue May 8-10 on draft weekend. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix of Alabama and Calvin Pryor of Louisville are almost certain to be first rounders. Because there is not much depth behind them, teams could reach to try to find solutions for their defensive backfields. Players such as Jimmie Ward, Deone Bucannon, Craig Loston and Ed Reynolds could be drawn up in the draft as a result of the safety vacuum.

Almost every coach is looking for a way to improve at the position, which is why at least 20 teams are expected to have a new starting safety when training camp begins. What they really want is just to survive, because more passing means safeties are stressed like never before. Ponderous safeties are about as useful these days as a VCR tape. Poor angles, blown assignments and missed tackles can be more costly than ever.

COMING UP

Some draft-related thoughts and nuggets.

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  • Uncle Wonder

    I’m not gonna lie…I love the Eagles with all my heart and soul, but this offseason/FA/draft stuff is gettin to be a grind…I need an offseason from the offseason, smh

    • NickS1

      Yeah, it’s really dragging on entirely too long.

      • JReamer

        Hang in there, the draft is right around the corner. I see no reason to believe, given the recent draft track record, that it will be a poor draft.

      • oreofestar

        I blame it on the later draft like why did they HAVE TO MOVE IT the draft would usually be in 2 weeks

        • greenblood0118

          Gooddell wants a 365-day NFL year.

    • cliff henny

      glass half full, once draft is over, then OTA’s and TC come around that much faster.

    • damrvrhunter

      Are you saying you would like “less” coverage? If so I disagree completely, can’t get enough of it. It is like the season never ends and that’s the way I like it.

      • Uncle Wonder

        Not really less coverage…i read everything there is to read…its more like–fatigue. Just from the whole process.

    • Tom w

      Huh. It’s the best time of the year other than reg season. Don’t have to listen to nearly as many eagles “fans” bitch and complain about the team bc 610 and 97.5 aren’t feeding the sheep negative material to bitch about

      • Uncle Wonder

        Thank you, Captain Obvious…there is the season and the offseason so every day of the year is one or the other lol…were you referring to the the month before the draft specifically?

        • Tom w

          You don’t like the predraft build up and wanna be a whiny bitch by all means knock yourself out. I enjoy it bc most eagles fans shut the hell up for a few months bc they have no idea what’s going on. Leaves the whiners and complainers nothing to bitch about

  • cliff henny

    6 picks is killing me. guy makes sense, really any O or D-line guy in 4th usually does. not nearly as much sense in getting Cole’s and Ryans’ replacements, plus Celek get expensive, think we all would appreciate a safety, and you know Kelly’s walking with more weapons. Howie, get on the phone with SF, they cant use all those picks.

    • GEAGLE

      I’d bet money we don’t pick 6 times…

      • cliff henny

        certainly hope not. heck, i’m willing to trade out of first with SF for late 2nd, 2 late 3rds and late 4th (math works in SFs favor). go a step further, take 1of 3 3rds Eagles now have, trade back for 5th and 6th, trade graham for 6th, have 2 picks in each of rds 2-6 and 1 7th…wheel and deal Howie! now they can get more weapons, and couple of those guys that play when i’m hitting the head, refreshing my beer and getting snacks

        • GEAGLE

          Think in a normal year, Howie listens to offers to move back, but turns them down if he feels the compensation isn’t enough….this year, I think he will trade back as many times as teams let him, and accept whatever they are offering…..even if he trades all the way down to round 3 from 22(that would never happen), there will still be a prospect he would be drooling over, no matter where he ends up drafting

          • cliff henny

            SF is easiest trade partner to see right now, cause they have to trim off picks. would love to see Bridgewater or Carr tumble to #22.let all those top 10 QB desperate teams who passed 1sttime around come a-calling. with KC sitting behind Eagles and if Cleveland passes, might be able to move back 15 spots to top of 2nd ,and add least 2 maybe 3 picks depending on rounds.

          • GEAGLE

            Don’t sleep on Garrapolo…teams are all over his nuts right now…dud is being talks about in 35-50 range..wonder if he is a late first round pick by the time the draft comes around..

            San Fran is absolutely a team we can do business with…at first I worried because they have so much ammunition that they could easily trade up to like 15.. But I didn’t realize they signed bathea. So there is no reason for them to trade up to 15 for a safety…they will trade up for a CB or a WR, and #22 is a sweet spot for both positions so I like our chances doing business with them

            Also, a team that doesn’t have enough roster spots to accomadatioms all the picks they have, I can almost guarentee they will be interested in converting some of their picks for 2015 picks…so we need to strongly consider trading them a 2015 2nd rounder for an extra 3rd or a 2015 3rd rounder for an extra 4th…..I’m not a fan of mortgaging the future, but I’m even less of a fan of on,y drafting 6 times in a STACKED draft…and as long as we don’t trade away our 2015 1st round pick, we can use it to trade back,mget extra picks and make up for the pick we are trading away this year…

            It actually works out perfect for me, because I ALREADY know I want to spend next years first rounder on Oregons OG

          • GEAGLE

            And Guards are so undervalued that you can probably trade back to end of round 1 and still get a top OG

          • Harpy Eagle

            I’m kind of hoping we are already picking at the end of Rd. 1.

          • Uncle Wonder

            What if he keeps trading back and we end up with every pick in the 7th and not a single pick earlier? lol, that would be like Hinkie and his love affair w 2nd rounders

  • Will

    Good point about the Safeties not a lot to choose from….having just 6 picks is a killer…

  • GEAGLE

    Wrote about this kid the other day, but 4th round is silly talk…dude will be a 6th,7th round pick…don’t know where this site gets their round projections from but 4th is insanity for this kid….

    I wrote how we would be really interested in Brent Urban around the 4th, but if we miss out on him, we can fallback and take Mauro or Taylor hart in the 6th..all 5tecs with the long 6’7 frame and freakishly long arms,,,glad the eagles are interested but that was pretty predictable….Brent Urban is the real eagles target, this kid is just a late round alternative

    • cliff henny
      • GEAGLE

        Doubt it, and I’m sure you can find 3 other sites that list him as a 6th…..urban will hopefully be a steal,.broke a bone in his foot in a freak accident, missed the draft process, so I’m hoping he slides down to the 5th, but I’m expecting him to come off the board in the 4th….Mauro I really like, but he is a limited prospect. He is British for starters :)….he is basically a poor mans Thornton, in that he could grow into a quality run defender, but will probably never provide any pass rush, but I like the kid, and view him as a realistic eagles target!, but I see NO scenario where we would draft Mauro if urban was still on the board

        • GEAGLE

          As I was saying.. NFL.com list:
          urban as 3rd-4th and Mauro as 6-7th

          CBS is high if they think this kid even gets dafted if the 5th

        • cliff henny

          ha, like talking to one of my ex’s…ask a question, gets answered accurately, then argue with the answer.
          .
          rather a 6th-7th rdr anyways, don’t see back-up 5-tech even close to a top 5 need for Eagles.

          • GEAGLE

            Just giving you the correct answer…cbs also tells you eagles wil draft Pryor or a CB, doesn’t mean you shuld take it as gospel…..have I told you about my fountain of youth? Check out all the sites you respect, bet majority have him a 6th…heck go watch Film for yourself, it take you two minutes to realize he ain’t a 4th round pick..as in laughable

    • Brent E. Sulecki

      whats Urban play?

      • GEAGLE

        Urban,Mauro and hart are all 5Tec,….Thorntons position…Urban has potential to be better than Thornton where as at best Mauro can develop into a Quality back up….Taylor Hart is more Mauro than Urban…
        ,….
        Who did a I tell to watch Mauro last week? Someone who was watching Murphy, told them to check out the other Tall Lanky guy on Stanford’s edge

        Really good chance one of the 3 become eagles

        • Brent E. Sulecki

          not me. so if we go after urban is there value in the 3rd 4th like hes projected. it seems he will in the future take ceds spot. even spell him this year. but is that at all possible for a 4th rounder to take a starters pt

          • GEAGLE

            In this draft a 4th rounder is like a normal 3rd round pick…you SHOULD get a starter in round 3….urban could very well take Ceds spot down the line…where as Mauro would be fighting to make the roster every year

        • Brent E. Sulecki

          I personally want more. OLBs. not happy with the group that’s here. and im on board for getting another ILB to spell meco on occasion and to hopefully team with MK in the future.

          • GEAGLE

            I doubt you have to worry much about LBs….they will be added, possibly even two LBs

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            yeah well we got holes to fill. and only 6 picks. give me. S.WR.OLB.DE5.ILB.WR…am I crazy Ge?

          • GEAGLE

            No way we only end up picking 6 times…I expect ATleast two more picks with 3′going to offense, 5 on defense…

            Defensively we will want:
            ROLB:
            Barr
            Murphy
            Attachou
            Marcus Smith
            Demarcus Lawrence

            LOLB/ILB Hybrid:
            Van Noy
            Christian Kirksey
            Christian jones
            Telvin Smith
            Tripp kid from Montana

            5Tec:
            Urban
            Mauro
            Taylor hart

            NT:
            Deandre Coleman
            Justin Ellis…
            ….
            Think two of these get addressed in the top 4 rounds, with offense getting two picks in top 4 rounds

            Later in the draft we will take fliers on secondary depth….
            Hopefully Antone Exums injury drops him to the 5th

            Safety Jonathon Dowling we can get in 6th or 7th

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            no Dee Ford for OLB. I like him. another guy on your list who flashed for me at combine. was Dem Law. his movements were great and put up impressive numbers in the drills. add that to game tape and id love to see him on the team. 3rd maybe

          • GEAGLE

            Could be wrong but I don’t think we would like him…

            Less than ideal size for chips model OLB…often lined up on the left side against RTs…how is he going to do against NFL LTs?
            ….
            But more importantly, any time you hear Chip talk about OLB, one of the first things out of his mouth is “ability to set the edge and play the run”…as a rookie it doesn’t matter cause Cole is an elite run defender, so the rookie can concentrate on rushing the passer on 3rd down…BUT the rookie will have to be ready to be a 3down OLB by the beginning of 2015 so we can cut Coles insane contract…I worry that it will take Ford two years to play the run well enough to be a 3 down OLB, so he probably isn’t good enough prospect to make us overlook the fact that he isn’t built the way we want our OLBs to be built……
            ,..
            Just my thoughts, could be wrong….but as much as I love defense and need pass rusher, I’d be pretty surprised to hear us call his name

          • GEAGLE

            We def need more picks…think we are solid enough at CB and S to get by a year, so we can focus on really solidifying our front 7….I’m also hoping our back up OL are better than we think……Can’t build Rome in a day, so I’m hoping we use this draft to solidify our front 7 and get Chip Kelly is own weapons on offense, and then use the 2015 draft to stack our Oline and secondary…

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            no corner depth either. that’s what I mean we got pos. to fill and cant all be addressed in 6 picks. hope we move around a little and still get the guys on our board

      • leorautins

        stick ball, hanging by the fire hydrant

  • Will

    Is LSU Pro Day today? Wonder if Chip is there?

    • cliff henny

      yup. bet everyone is there, if not, they should be.

      • GEAGLE

        It’s also the time for smokescreens…as in bringing your owner to go watch Geno smith work out..I remember that day, this site was going crazy lol…

        Smokescreen time is here. Interesting to see that no teams hAve contacted Sammy Watkins. Yesterday was his first and only visit, Detriot….teams are that paranoid of tipping their hands that no one is talking to the best WR in the draft? Crazy

        • cliff henny

          B24/7 rules, cant mention Geno and not make fun of Dutch

          • GEAGLE

            Lol I don’t know what’s worse, Dutch hanging on Genos Nuts, or “Shah”(Lawlors site) undying love for Joe Webb the QB lol

          • cliff henny

            Shah, that’s just crazy talk. least Dutch was projecting talent, people are off all the time on those. plus, Dutch didn’t single-handedly ruin a site for me. might visit TL’s site once a week now

          • GEAGLE

            I literally haven’t read a Shah post in ATleast a year

          • cliff henny

            depends who he’s arguing with. i skim that convo log, pick out guys i find interesting. if he’s battling one of those guys, i’ll take a look. 99% of the time it him trolling

          • GEAGLE

            Lol now that I know how to minimize peoples posts, he isn’t even a blip in my radar. haven’t read a worthless Maggie post in like two weeks, it’s been glorious…..but without being able to down vote, im almost forced to minimalize more people than I’d like to

        • pjcostello

          Watkins will be visiting Jacksonville.

      • NickS1

        Teams w/o representation at an LSU pro day should immediately fire their personnel staff.

    • oreofestar

      yeah he is there I am sure a lot of coaches are there, Loston, Barrow, ODB, Landry, Mettenburger, Turner there are a lot of kids to watch

  • Andy124

    The Eagles have my blessing to draft this kid with their 6th round pick. Oh. Wait.

  • GEAGLE

    Sorry to change subject by why did that idiot Lebron have “King James” on the back of his game jersey last night? What a clown

    • oreofestar

      well I know before when they played the Nets they had like a nickname night Joe Johnson wore JJ on the back and Deron Williams wore D-Will and stuff like that maybe they did it again

      • JosephR2225

        Somebody should wear one that says “NBA Money Grab” on the back.

      • cliff henny

        did ray allen have shuttleworth again? think nba told him he couldnt put jesus

        • GEAGLE

          He really had shuttlesworth on his jersey before?

          • cliff henny

            yup. they did the nickname thing earlier on in season. no one calls Allen Shuttlesworth, hey call him Jesus, but NBA wouldn’t allow it.

          • GEAGLE

            Smh….these rich executives that run these leagues have too much time on their hands…banning dunking on a goal posts, not being able to use certain names? Like GTFO here….wish Ron Artest would change his last name to Jesus

          • NickS1

            Yeah, NBA decided to do a few games with players’ nicknames on the jerseys instead of last names.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Lol…why is he an idiot? He is the best player in bball…it is an NBA promo thing…players hv nothin to do w it outside of telling them wht nickname they wanna use.

  • cliff henny

    Marquise Lee is coming in for a visit.

    • oreofestar

      Oh snap! yeah I would not be suprised at all at this point if he is the pick better prepare myself now for the disappointment

      • cliff henny

        O-star, tried helping you, told you to prepare well over a month ago.

      • anon

        I really hope not. I don’t put as much stock into visits. I think they are doing diligence on guys, maybe they had extra questions — trying to find out about the offense / other guys in the scheme, etc. One of these guys will fall to second. Picking at 22 is just terrible though.

    • Will

      Isn’t this the kid that’s injury prone? Figures we should be a hospital for football player’s…Geez

      http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/9742457/marqise-lee-usc-trojans-leaves-game-knee-injury

      • cliff henny

        not sure where you are getting injury prone. ’11 and’12, he had about as good of numbers as a WR could have. think lot of Lee hate is anti-USC bias, which i totally agree with, but this kid can play.

        • Will

          An extremely motivated, dynamic, playmaking receiver, Lee’s junior season was plagued by shoulder, knee and leg injuries and a revolving door at head coach, where he cycled through three. Showed all the traits desired in a No. 1 receiver early in his career and has overcome a lot of adversity in his life to get to this point. per NFL Combine on Marquize Lee…

          • cliff henny

            injured and injury prone are very different.

          • Will

            true…enough…knee injuries seem to be a trait to make it on the Eagles..lol..

        • NickS1

          So could Dwayne Jarrett…

          • cliff henny

            and mike Williams, so what’s your point? fact is, no matter how stacked we’re told this WR class is, bet 5 out top 10 picks are meh to busts. nfl is really hard

          • NickS1

            My point was that, like you, I don’t care much for USC players that aren’t LBs. They always have stud WRs that usually don’t become studs in the NFL.

          • GEAGLE

            And I bet out of those 5 busts, 3 would have been decent players if they were drafted by a different team,,..it’s not as simple as so and so is a bust…Cooper was nothing more than an4th WR under Andy, he was a pretty solid number 2 under Chip…coaching, QB play, healthy environment…alot of dynamics play into whether a WR you draft pans out or not….how the coach is using him…

        • Will

          Yes not crazy about USC player’s…we have 2 QB’s from there on the roster not crazy about either one…

        • Will

          Possesses a relatively slight frame and struggled with injuries in 2013, raising legitimate questions about his ability to remain healthy against NFL competition. Relies on his natural athleticism to work himself free, at times, rather than exploding out of his routes at the proper depths, showing a willingness to freelance that has led to interceptions for the Trojans. per BGN

          • cliff henny

            i don’t want the guy, but said well over a month ago, look out. kid is talented and beat the bejesus out of Kelly in ’11 and ’12, he tends to notice those things

          • Will

            At #22 I do not see Lee as the BPA…

          • travis papa

            If lee and Barkley each left school a yr earlier they both would have been top 5 picks.

        • Will

          I would rather go with Kevin Benjamin but hey that’s me..we already have to worry about Maclin’s knee as it is…

          • Token

            Did you know Kelvin has only 3 100 yard+ games in two seasons on a team that puts up over 45 points every game? This kid pops up so many red flags. Hes a 3rd round guy thats gonna go in the 1st. I hope we arent the moronic team that does it. People see 6’5 and dont look any further.

          • Will

            6’5″ is what you want in the Red Zone…plus I trust how CK would use him and we know how CK loves mismatches…granted the knock on him is dropped passes but I look at that as a coaching issue that can be fixed with practise and a jugs machine…

          • Token

            6’5 dont mean much if you arent that good of a WR. Ask Momah.

          • Will

            True…

          • Will

            Token what WR do you like that is a reasonable player we can draft or falls to us?

          • Token

            Put it this way, im good with almost any other 1st or 2nd round rated WR over Kelvin.

          • Kev_H

            To me, if you are planning to be an NFL wr for a living are 23, and haven’t already maxed out on hands work, something is wrong with you. They have jugs machines in college. Same thing with lousy combine results. They don’t do surprise drills at the combine, the date isn’t a surprise and doing well might be worth a million+ dollars. If a player doesn’t perform decently compared to his peers with no obvious reason, I start to wonder about motivation, drive, work ethic, and even intelligence. It’s hard to “coach up” a player who lacks those qualities.

          • peteike

            amen, I think KB has bust written all over him. They spread those plays out though to all their weapons to be fair. I just dont trust him as a pick, he may pan out but too risky imo

        • eaglefansocal

          Agree with Cliff. Remember watching Lee in 2012 thinking he was one of the best college receivers I ever saw. If the Eagles are confident in his durability and their sports science stuff he could be awesome. He is a great character guy and warrior also since he played dinged up all of 2013.

  • GEAGLE

    The ultimate Warrior died?

    • cliff henny

      side effects from ‘roids? guy was juiced out of his mind

      • Will

        Who?

      • GEAGLE

        Absolutely…heard he took part in Sundays wrestle mania,and dies two days later…hope he didn’t wrestle on sunday

        • Token

          He was really into fitness and wellness after wrestling, without roids, wasnt he? Kind of surprising. Must have been a heart attack or brain aneurysm.

          • cliff henny

            imagine that garbage he had running thru him in the late ’80 early ’90s, bet damage was irreversible.

          • anon

            sounds like he straight up dropped dead in the street.

          • GEAGLE

            Haven’t read any of the details yet, just saw the headline

          • peteike

            I recently saw some story that they think Superfly Snuka may have killed his girlfriend or wife. That the investigation afterwards was so bad and full of holes. I never saw the feature, it was like 20/20 or some show like that. This made me think of it.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah man, his veins were huge back in the day, haven’t seen any recent picks of him…wonder how he looked at wrestle and on Sunday….if you go back and watch his 80s or 90s interviews and wrestling promos, He was out of his friggin mind…I was young at the time, so I didn’t really appreciate how insane the stuff he used to say was until a few years ago when I went back and you tubed some of his old interviews…what a maniac
            ..,
            Heard tons of rumors throughout the years that they kept using different dudes as the ultimate warrior, because the originals kept dying…but apparently not, if he just passed away

          • Uncle Wonder

            suicide?

    • travis papa

      Seems like he dies every 5yrs since 1990

  • PhillySean

    Lack of news is a bit of a grind, but I like that Tim and Sheil have been creative about finding something substantial to add to the blog during this lull. If I could make a suggestion, I wouldn’t mind seeing some more info on Kelly’s principals and philosophy. I was reading Jaworski’s Seven Games book a few weeks back and in the first chapter it talks about Sid Gillman’s Feast or Famine game plan for the AFL championship game against the Patriots. It struck me that comparing Chip’s ideas to that of Sid Gillman, Bill Walsh, etc could be a worthwhile exercise. Maybe worthy of an occasionally revisited series during lulls like the one we are in now.

    • Anon

      Did you finish that book? I thought Jaws did a horrible job. I read three chapters and quit on it. Interesting stuff that could have be presented in a better way.

      • PhillySean

        I did the same. I don’t usually find myself saying “needed more pictures”. But it definitely applies. I found it difficult to follow narratives about the course of a game without a graphic reference.

    • ACViking

      PS –

      1. Gilman’s believed, back in the ’60s, in stretching the field horizontally to create wider passing lanes vertically. He conceived his scheme when the hashmarks were the same as college football still uses (much wider) — so you could pressure put a ton of stress on a defense to exposes the wide-side of the field.

      Gilman became the first pro coach to make the 2-TE/1-back offense a staple. He loved the balance it created, which prevented defenses from rolling over to one side. Joe Gibbs, a Gilman acolyte, turned that 2-TE/1-back offense into the 11 personnel with an H-back; and on passing downs the H-back gave way to Trips.

      Gilman’s the real father of the modern passing game — and his offense was run by the great Raiders teams of the ’60-’80s, the “Air Coryell” Cards Chargers, the Rams of the late ’80s, the Cowboy Dynasty under Jimmy Johnson . . . and the Vermeil Eagles starting in ’79.

      2. Walsh, like Gibbs, was also a Gilman acolyte.

      Walsh’s genius was not just in using short passes in lieu of runs. But in scheming to create mismatches out of his base offense by pressuring defenses to cover the field horizontally.

      The whole short-passing WCO was the product of Walsh’s time as the OC for the Bengals in the late ’60s and early ’70s when they had a weak-armed mobile QB named Virgil Carter.

      Anyway, that’s my 2 cents. Love to read others’ thoughts.

      • PhillySean

        I feel like I see more of that stretch the field, force the other team to protect every inch of real estate under Kelly than I ever saw from Reid. And the long bomb and successful running attack that Gillman featured have been apparent too.

      • Maggie

        Having recently reread Roy Blount’s book “Three Bricks Shy of a Load”, I could see quite a bit of Chuck Noll in Chip Kelly. Treating players like men, willing to cut stars who won’t or can’t fit the system, longsuffering with potential greatness (Bradshaw and Greene), pair of WRs like the current Bears, utilizing the tight end, using hand signals, etc. Maybe every “great” coach comes from Gilman or Lombardi or Lambeau. Kelly frequently states that there is nothing really new in the NFL.

      • Warhound

        Walsh further developed the WCO when, in college, he had poor OT play and had to get the ball out quickly.

      • PhillySean

        The book I partially read had an interesting chapter about Bud Carson. Apparently he expected his entire defense to get all of the assignment reads memorized so that playing in a loud environment wouldn’t be an issue. In a game against Bill Walsh he came up with new reads which were revealed just prior to the game. Paranoid that Walsh was going to figure out his coverages, he instructed his defense to start flip flopping assignments, alternating between the new assignments and the previous assignments. Walsh later said he couldn’t figure out what was going on. It me wonder if Kelly’s signs on the sidelines refer to a whole package if reads.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        your 2 pennies are always appreciated. thanks.

        we here a lot about offense, but I’m curious to learn more about Kelly’s defensive beliefs. Turn it over completely to DC? Bring in supreme athletes? Versatility and disguise? Front 7 or Back 7 emphasis? Favorite personnel groupings/schemes?

        So much intrigue on that front.

  • anon

    Celek was on NFL AM. Asked about Vick and Desean – he was basically like IDGAF. He said Vick was a good QB / great leader but so clear Foles is the man. Asked about goals for the season — Superbowl — I thought that was really telling, not individual stats or getting better, but SB. On Sproles, called him one of most dynamic players in NFL — really excited about what he can do against man coverage.

    That sort of sums up FA for me.

    • cliff henny

      think Kelly was losing sleep last season over having a team with issues against man coverage. Oregon, he hung 50 in a hurry against it. listening to him and everyone else, might not want to play M2M single high as base defense this year.

      • GEAGLE

        Yup, I think the offseason goals were pretty simple for this year:
        ..
        Offense: iMprove ability to destroy press man…makes me think Allen Robinson is on his way
        ..,
        Defense: Improve our ability to get off the field on 3rd down, add subpackages(last year we laid a basic foundation)

        Improve depth and add competition across the board..start to get bIgger, longer and more athletic at every position..I think the draft will reflect this…expecting athletic, versatile, high Charecter draft picks who have above average size and length for their position

        • Kev_H

          Don’t forget STs, which is clearly a priority.

          • GEAGLE

            That’s a Given…I don’t think that will ever stop being a priority..

        • Tom W

          Robinson isn’t very good against press … actually a knock on him is that he is more finesse than physical. ODBeckham destroys any type of man coverage … Latimer does well against press too.

        • devCal

          just because you are a charecter doesn’t mean you have character…

        • Dan

          High Character (why is this capitalized?) guys win championships! Just ask the Seahawks and Ravens. Sheep led to slaughter.

    • Maggie

      Glad you brought it up. I saw Celek too. Thought he pretty much sounded like a true Eagle. Sort of answered the questions about former teammates without actually saying anything. Wants to get to the Super Bowl, thinks Shady and Sproles will make a great backfield, and likes Foles. Boring but safe. :~)

  • JofreyRice

    Ourlads’ Dan Shonka is relatively high on this kid. Good size, a bit plodding, though. Decent depth for a 2 gap 5 technique. Chip loves him some Pac12.

    • GEAGLE

      If we don’t draft Brent urban earlier, I think this kid could be high on our round 6 wish list..of course we have to get a 6th round pick first, but I can’t possibly believe we are only going to pick 6 times….think we will draft ATleast 8 kids

  • Tom w

    Kiper finally watched tape of Barr yesterday and agreed w scouts inc that he didn’t play well enough last year to warrant a top 15 pick and is very raw an plays like he is on offense …. Both espn guys take a lot of heat but that’s two scouts plus josh Norris from rotoworld who was a scout from texans and I like a shitload also hasn’t been high on him for three months. Tennessee met w him but they could easily take a corner there to replace verner or Ebron. Could see him dropping to cards or eagles draft day very easily at this point

    • ACViking

      So the Birds would take Barr at 22 in hopes that he’s an elite pass rusher. But he’s only available at 22 because he’s not elite.

      Or did I get this wrong?

      I happen to like Barr. A lot. Two or three times a game he seemed to make big plays. But I’m no scout.

      • JofreyRice

        gosh, it’s just so hard for me to see Barr dropping that far. The guy was ultra productive in a good conference, did well in the postseason athletic testing, has a good frame at 6’4, 250, and just switched from running back 2 years ago. He had some games where he got stuck on blocks. Ok.

        Compare him, as a prospect, to Dion Jordan, and I think Barr is more desirable for an NFL club. He’s going to take some work to mold, but I think a lot of coaches look at a piece of clay like that and think they can sculpt the best form out of it.

        • ACViking

          JR–

          I’m with you. He’s so athletic . . . or looks that way on TV.

          I don’t get the whole “he’s a bit tight in the hips”-thing that McShay and Kiper were spouting.

          Barr bends big around the edge on pass rushes.

          So what if he’s not yet great at setting an edge. That’ll come in time. When he gets stronger and learns the position more. Right?

          • JofreyRice

            that’s what I think. One thing that’s always stood out to me is how small he gets around the edge. Guys like JPP and Demarcus Ware (and even Dion Jordan, to an extent) have that “Gumby” look going around the edge; ultra flexible with those crazy long limbs. In another life either of those guys could have been a yogi. Barr does it by staying lower, but I think he takes a little more direct path. Before the combine, I was convinced that UCLA was inflating his height, because of how small of a target he made himself for tackles trying to prevent him getting around them outside. It might be something UCLA’s staff teaches, because I remember Datone Jones had a similar weird ability to do it last year.

            Who knows, though. It’s all a crapshoot. I’d be happy if he fell to the Eagles. I wouldn’t have an issue with him at #22 at all.

            Trading up is tricky, because we’re hamstrung with so few picks, and the fact that they addressed so little in free agency. Essentially, if they’re not going to spend money to bring in longterm quality players in free agency, we’ve got to hope it happens in the draft. Tough to give away picks if that’s the strategy.

      • Tom W

        Did i say he wasn’t elite or potential to be elite. no i did not. I am pointing out three different scouts that are down on him and one most recently … further flaming the fact that he may drop to the eagles or atleast close enough (say 18 or 19) to move up and get him.

        After the titans at 11, there isn’t a team until the cards at 20 that has a need (versus three other larger needs) for a olb. Hence why he could drop.

  • Tom w

    This kid is very unathletic. Rather roll w Krueger and use our dline pick on a versatile nt from lsu or late pick on Kerr

    • Tom W

      Was watching more and more of Dion Bailey and actually thought he was quite athletic for a big safety and versatile having played linebacker as well ….. most impressive was that he covered tes and slot wrs literally on every series in tight man coverage …. he has the size chip likes and had a good combine workout …. could be sitting there in the fourth.

  • Tom w

    2d round for Christian jones as a raw ilb is a bit early for kempski. Can’t force him there Especially if birds also looking at Preston brown and barrow. Looks better in third rd.

  • myeaglescantwin

    i have a feeling every 6’6 280+ pounder is on our late round draft board.

    we’ve got this guy,
    the dude from Cal,
    the dude from Oregon,
    and that dude Urban.

    Big people beat up little people.