Draft Daily: Indiana WR Latimer a Fit?

NCAA Football: Indiana at Illinois

Chip Kelly has made it clear that when the Eagles are scouting wide receivers in this year’s draft class, they’ll be looking at one factor above all else: Can they get open against man coverage?

Kelly explained that there are different ways to accomplish that.




"It can come in a lot of different ways," he said last month. "It can be the speed element of it. It can be the power and size element of it. There’s a lot of different ways to cut it. There’s certain guys in our league that have both and that’s why they’re elite. They have the size element of it, they also have the speed element of it. There’s a lot of different ways to do it."

Indiana wide receiver Cody Latimer has the size element. At 6-2, 215, he possesses the physicality to out-muscle defensive backs and make plays on the football. And while Latimer didn't run at the combine because he was recovering from foot surgery, he reportedly posted a 4.44 at his Pro Day.

Latimer has been generating some buzz during the pre-draft process and was in town to visit with the Eagles on Monday:

Latimer is entering the draft after a junior season in which he caught 72 balls for 1,096 yards and nine touchdowns.

Below are a few clips from Latimer's days at Indiana. He possesses certain qualities that Kelly is sure to like. Most notably, Latimer uses his size to make plays on the football even when he's not necessarily open. Take a look at this TD catch against projected first-round pick Darqueze Dennard (Michigan State).

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Latimer gets Dennard on his back and makes a play on the football for the score.

Here, against Penn State, he shows excellent body control and strong hands for a nice grab near the sideline.

In the games I watched, Latimer lined up exclusively on the outside. But he appears to have the skill set to be moved inside as well.

And Latimer is a willing blocker:

Given the depth at the position, it's tough to project where wide receivers will fall. But if Latimer is on the board in the second or third rounds, he could be an option for the Eagles.

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  • PhillySean

    Nice to see an out of towner make it to Jim’s instead of the usual touristy suspects.

    • Richard Colton

      hahaha. you had me going for a second there, almost took your bait. Upvote for subtle irony.

      For the Canadians – Jim’s is (with the possible exception of Genos/Pats) THE most touristy cheesesteak place in the city.

      • damrvrhunter

        Up vote for explaining it to me.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        Steve’s on south is gunning for that south street title, last time I was there

        And I’d still take jim’s over the other 2 turds-on-a-roll

        • peteike

          I go to Steves in the northeast, best by far thats close to me when Im home. Im guessing its the same one, they are awesome. Not a fan of Jims, Genos/pats are way better than Jims still.

          • Adam G

            Nah, steve’s on south closed. You are talking about Steve’s Prince of Steaks. They actually opened up a center city location. It’s great.

          • peteike

            aha, I knew they opened somewhere else. Never been to that steves, ya was talking about prince of steaks.

        • Johnny Domino

          I like Jim’s but not Abner’s. Liked Rick’s before he was run out of the Terminal Market. Go to Pat’s as much for nostalgia as the food. All are clogging my arteries, so who has the last laugh?

          • DharmaBum

            Went to high school with Rick (and RAJ) and used to love his steaks. Now, when I go home, I usually hit D’Alessandro’s back in my old neighborhood.

          • Johnny Domino

            Lived for a time in East Falls, love D’Alessandro’s. Try to route trips through the area for one there every couple of months.

      • Eagles1018

        So can the natives suggest a “real” place for the next time I’m in town?

        • reb

          I’m guessing nobody is going to agree. Hope I’m wrong for when I come in the Summer?

        • Richard Colton

          Tony Luke’s on Oregon Ave. If you’re near the stadiums, try Talk of the Town.

        • Corey Dawson

          Great places outside the city as well. May favorite is Leo’s in Sharon Hill.

  • Will

    If you like 6’2″ with speed go Donte Moncrief who is faster and heavier…

    • GEAGLE

      And Moncreif will be a 21yr old rookie….check out Jeff Janis, same school we got the Todfqther from!!! Would love to come away with Moncrief and Janis

      • Tom w

        Moncrief doesn’t really play to his size. Not all that physical and doesn’t catch w hands.

        • Will

          Is high-cut and shows some lower-body stiffness in his route running.
          Average burst off the line. Not a quick-twitch athlete — could struggle
          to shake loose from more athletic corners. Lacks foot speed to separate
          vertically. Is straightlinish after the catch and will not make anyone
          miss. Marginal special-teams utility. Football was not his first love.per NFL Combine on Cody Latimer…

          • Tom W

            Please stop posting cut ups from websites. I try and formulate my own opinions by watching film

        • GEAGLE

          Hahahahahahaha you are silly..let me know if you ever come up with a non correctable limitation…you do realize I can list flaws that need to be worked on and corrected for every single kid drafted after round 1 right? lol you don’t see me list the correctable flaws of the players you blow, because how the hell am I supposed to know if they put in the work to correct them or not? Unless you Can point to some limitation that you can’t correct no matter how much you work at it, I’m not interested

    • Joe Thomas

      Sounds like another guy who would fit right into what Chip wants. This draft got so many receivers, and the way they could potentially drop some defensive prospects, or have the Defensive guys taken earlier due to the belief you can get good talent in later rounds, its impossible to know how it plays out. Im looking at 4 or 5 guys I like and am hoping we get one. But you gotta love the possibilities.
      What round is Moncrief projected?

      • GEAGLE

        Moncrief is talked about as a 3rd round pick…but I seriously doubt he makes it out of the top 50. 21yr old baby with TOO MUCH TALENT

        • Joe Thomas

          I wouldnt put it past Chip to pull the trigger on a guy he loves earlier then expected, and maybe jump up in the 2nd or 3rd to do it. I’m just grateful we have him for this draft and not Andy. Andy would blow it.

          • damrvrhunter

            Not always into beating a dead horse but beat away! Andy left so much psychic damage might take me 10 seasons or a Super Bowl to really get over it.

          • GEAGLE

            Totally agree….when you put so much weight on Charecter, commitment, Interviews, ii have no problem with Chip drafting guys he believes in, one round sooner to make sure he secures them, and when you are picking 22 in every round, you almost have to, to make sure you get the guys you want

      • Will

        Hard to say when the run on WR’s is…could be late 2nd early 3rd…

        • Joe Thomas

          Its gonna be interesting. This city needs a big, fast, playmaking receiver, who can take over a game. We’ve been deprived of that for too long, with the exception of our one teaser season with T.O.

          • Will

            Kevin Benjamin is WR I hope we draft….

          • Joe Thomas

            He got tons of upside, but just as much bust potential, he scares me. But if the Eagles take him I wont be upset, I trust Chips opinion on a WR, more than my own. I would prefer someone faster though. But this guys definitely intriguing.

          • Will

            yeah wish the draft was today…lol…

    • mksp

      Latimer > Moncrief. This will be obvious on draft day when Latimer is taken a full round ahead of Moncrief.

      • Will

        Latimer foot is still healing he will fall in the draft…

  • eaglefansocal

    Get Cooks/Beckam in the 1st and Latimer in the 3rd and we are set at WR!

    • Richard Colton

      Like it. Here’s my issue: don’t think they will like Cooks as much as you and I do. Don’t think ODB will be there. Say it’s KB in round one and Moncreif in round three. Can you live with that?

      • Will

        yes if they grab Deone Bucannon and an ROLB as well in the first 4 picks……lol…

      • eaglefansocal

        I don’t really like KB unless he falls to the 2nd. I really think ODB will be there in the 1st. My first thing to look at with any player is productivity and I think Latimer is little better than Moncrief and Cooks a little better than ODB. Of course this is based on fairly equivalent competition.

        • Richard Colton

          Here’s why I don’t think he’ll be there: I think the secret is out with Mike Evans. He’s a stud. I think he’ll go to Tampa at 7, Buffalo 8, or Detroit 9. That means, in order for ODB to be there at #22, we’ll have to go 13 picks in “the year of the WR” without seeing one taken, if you believe (like I do) that ODB is the 3rd guy off the board.

          • Tom w

            Pitt and ravens have atleast three bigger problems in first round. Jets take cooks over odb. Odb would be there.

          • oreofestar

            he won’t make it unless one of these teams like the Steelers is determined to get a big wr

          • Tom W

            Steelers and ravens aren’t drafting wrs in the first rounds. they have MAJOR problems … steelers need corners, oline, and dline real had … ravens need oline, safety, dline bad.

            Jets take either cooks or odb.

          • Richard Colton

            two well run organizations, neither of which draft historically for need. Think either one could be tempted by Ebron or ODB. The Jets going Cook over ODB? That’s interesting Tom. It would almost have to happen in order for him to fall to us.

  • eaglefansocal

    Moncrief or Latimer works for me, whichever is available in the 3rd round.

  • eaglefansocal

    Use 2nd and 4th rounds for defense and use the later picks for either.

  • Joe Thomas

    This guy definitely fits for what Chip wants. He looks like he would complement Maclin well. Would prefer a second round reciever considering defense is a bigger need.
    We really need to come away from this draft with atleast 2 quality starting defenders, one at OLB, and a secondary player, and a quality reciever. I like our D-line enough to feel like a couple depth players in later rounds that can rotate in for a season or 2, then hopefully be capable to compete for starting jobs in future years, would suffice, and make this another great draft class, and put us in a great position for next off season. Really excited for this thing to play out.

  • Malcolm Jones

    Latimer is my must have guy….while I love the ideal of Cooks, I want someone who can battle it out with a Seattle DB, beat them with speed, and go up for the ball. I just cant gauge his value… just take him in the second round, take Pryor or fuller in the first and Christian Jones in the 3rd round. Win Win!

    • peteike

      yes, yes and yes, like the way you think. I like Robinson as well by like many have said, so many potentially good big WRs, just hope they pick right

      • oreofestar

        I am tired settling for Cooks types I want big faast monsters Moncrief, Robinson, Jenkins, Matthews, Latimer and others

        • peteike

          I agree but Id be fine with Cooks if he turns into a great player, size dont matter if they are making plays. I think the bust potential is higher for bigger WRs though

          • oreofestar

            but I am not just talking about big guys with limited athleticism like Benjamin I am talking about player with elite atheticism and size like Moncrief and Latimer

          • peteike

            oh ya thats what you want

  • anon

    Sounds like he knows how to suck up — good interview he could be half way there. Jarvis Landry!

  • GEAGLE

    2nd or 3rd? I like this kid a lot but that sounds pretty damn high to me. Really like this prospect, but I really like about 10 WR prospects..he had a nice showing in bench press so would be a nice blocker for our run game, and he experiencd in a high tempo offense but philly has fallen in love with this kid in like two weeks. Everyone talks about this Kid,,,I liked him a lot, but sounds like Philly is really over rating him to me….
    ..
    6’2 215lbs, 4.4 benefit of the doubt..quality prospect, but there are a hand full of guys on his level, drafting him in round two would be jerry jones type of Absurd…I think Jeff Janis is every bit of the WR prospect if not better! 6’3 220lbs, 4.42, 38 inch vertical (whiteboy gets up), top performer in 3 cone,..why Would I want Cody in round 2 or 5 when I can get Janis in the 5th? … I actually just did a Mock, where I didn’t draft any WRs early and I ended up with Janis and Cody

    • Tom w

      Cause Janis played shit competition and doesn’t play as fast as he is timed. Didn’t wow people at all star games Same w Cody Hoffman.

    • oreofestar

      I am hearing a lot of 4th

    • Tom w

      He was looked at as a 5th rounder before he had a chance to run his 40 at his proday then scouts went nutz … His deep speed was really only question in his game. Much more complete player than say moncrief or Bryant and much more talented than Coleman or Janis. Third round seems about right as I have him ahead of martavius, close w moncrief, and behind Robinson

      • oreofestar

        I think he is likely a 4th rounder but if we take him or Coleman in the 3rd I am fine I want one of them

        • Tom W

          Coleman is a 5-6th rounder at best. project. etc.

          • oreofestar

            natural catcher with a high ceiling

      • GEAGLE

        Hahahahah you are nuts…I love reading your posts..get a kick out of them

    • Tom W
      • GEAGLE

        Dude…WTF are you doing EVER visiting Bleacher report?

        • Tom W

          DUDE you are so predictable. I literally wrote and then deleted (“yes I know its bleacherreport”) but aside from author and opinions expressed it has a fair amount of content that lends to scout-types believing he will go earlier than expected in draft and bleacher report gathered it in one article.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol SMH..

    • Malcolm Jones

      So if we Have Pryor, Latimer or Robinson in the second, Christian Jones third, and Aaron Colvin (if he makes it that far) you are gonna be mad?

      • GEAGLE

        No. But thats not at all realistic

  • GEAGLE

    Anyone know of we scheduled a visit with Jeff Janis? I’m sure we will

    • Tom w

      Have not yet. Could check to see if we went to his proday. Chip is at psu watching Robinson and that dtackle today

      • oreofestar

        Daquan

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        they have have that brilliant OG as well, would love him here.

        • oreofestar

          Aaaaah him, is it fair to say there is a slight chance he goes 6th-UDFA

        • GEAGLE

          Uhh what’s his name! you are talking about the 6th or 7th rounder right? urshel or something that reminds me of Steve Urkel

          • Andy124

            Urshel. He is a man amongst children. I saw him pancake block a guy… with his brain.

  • GEAGLE

    Question: what sites do people find as the most credible for projecting the rounds a kid will get drafted in?

    • Joe Thomas

      I kinda go off how often a guy is projected to go where.

    • eaglefansocal

      I think Adam Schefter is the best guy for projecting rounds for players. However, it would be interesting to do a statistical analyses on the past 4 or 5 drafts to see who has been the most accurate picking the rounds players were picked in. Sheil??

      • Tom w

        Does schefty even make round predictions about players other than first rounders and qbs? I don’t think he watches tape and had any talent evaluation skills

    • Twatkins@temple.edu

      None yet. CBS is pretty good bc they update Espn is horrible bc scouts inc is still watching film on lots of pkayers. Nfl.com is horrible as well. Tough for some players whose prodays are so late like latimer and attaboy and lsu and psu.

    • Adam G

      Walter Football has decent projections and rumors.

      • oreofestar

        meh….to be honest I just formulate my own opinions based on all the tape I watch look at general consensus and see hw it matches up with my opinions and that is really all

        • Adam G

          You watch tape on over 200 guys? You must have a lot of time on your hands.

          • oreofestar

            Not everyone but I have definitley watched tape on most people I think are targets at least a little then I see the generall consensus for guys I have not really watched

        • Will

          The thing with Janis he played at a Division 2 small school hard to say what happens when he gets to the pro’s…

          • oreofestar

            I actually have not watched anything on Janis

        • GEAGLE

          Same, which Is why I have to ask the question about which site do people find credible! I normally Don’t pay any attention to sites opinion on prospects, besides their mocks

  • Uncle Wonder

    • ceedubya9

      Nice!

    • Joe Thomas

      Is Chip there?

      • Uncle Wonder

        yeap

  • knighn

    Man, with all of the “strength” of this WR class, I can’t help but have two thoughts:
    1) We could get a truly great WR somewhere in the draft and still end up pissed in a few years because we could have had an even better one.
    2) The Eagles must get AT LEAST one good WR in this draft. It doesn’t have to be round one or two, but the WR that they get has to be a capable starter one day (for the Eagles – no more losing our good WRs to other teams!)

    • oreofestar

      in fairness half of the wrs will be busts or disappointments

      • knighn

        That’s fine: as long as the half that are busts or disappointments are drafted by other teams!

        • oreofestar

          oh we will not draft a bust and least at wr, Chip will get the best out of them and coach them into something special

          • knighn

            Chip better get a good one, better coach him up, and better not have to cut him or trade him! I had to witness the drafting of these WRs during the Andy Reid Era:
            Na Brown
            Troy Smith
            Todd Pinkston
            Gari Scott
            Freddie Mitchell
            Freddie Milons
            Billy McMullen
            Reggie Brown
            Jeremy Bloom
            ——————————–
            And here were the good ones:
            Jason Avant
            DeSean Jackson
            Jeremey Maclin
            Riley Cooper
            —–
            Right now it doesn’t say a whole lot for Andy that the Eagles had to cut one of the few good ones!

          • cliff henny

            FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuugly list! seriously, how did Reid get to 5 nfccgs and win 125 or whatever games with the way he drafted. JJ, mcnabb had that one killer draft

          • Adam G

            That would be defense. They go to those nfccgs mostly with defense

          • cliff henny

            RIP JJ

          • oreofestar

            basically doing what we are trying to do now they had such good defense that a mediocre offense was good enough we are now trying to score so many points that even if our D is ranking in the 20th- 25th range it does not matter you said it 55-34 is going to be the norm

          • knighn

            As FUGLY as that list is, just take a look at who the Eagles took in the first three rounds from 1999-2012. (I tried to post it here and it doesn’t look like it’s going to show up). They had some hits there, but they took so many below average and terrible players.

          • anon

            Funny you put cooper in the good category — he was only good once andy left.

          • knighn

            He’s still capable of playing for the Eagles. Compared to the rest of the dreck on that list: he’s actually good.

          • Explorer51

            You should add Brandon Gibson and Marvin McNutt, both of whom are still playing with Miami and Carolina respectively.

          • knighn

            Wasn’t sure which list to put Brandon Gibson on. He was a 6th round pick so any value the Eagles would have gotten out of him would have been a good thing. Still, he never did anything for the Eagles…. and in 5 seasons, he’s only gotten above 500 yards twice… and never more than 700 yards in a season. So, is this a good pick for the Eagles? Or a Bad pick, since the Eagles weren’t the ones to get production out of the guy?

            As for Marvin McNutt, I would have included him with the Bad / Useless ones. Two years in the NFL without a single reception. Wasted pick, even for the 6th round.

          • Explorer51

            I just remember when the Eagles traded him to the Rams for Will Witherspoon, they both had career days on their first game with their new teams. Gibson had some kind of rookie receiving record that day and Witherspoon had a bunch of tackles and a pick six; it looked like a win-win for both teams but it clearly didn’t pan out. I think Gibson wasn’t helped by a series of nagging injuries and putrid QB play on the Rams; he showed enough flashes, with decent size, that he could have really developed under a guy like Kelly.

    • Will

      Gotta go WR with first pick can’t bet on Mac’s knee holding up or Cooper staying healthy…with 7 so so guys behind the two on this roster…might take 2 WR’s this draft…

      • knighn

        Expect that they’ll take two. Not sure that one will be round 1. I think it will come down to Best Value Available.

        • Will

          Yeah hard to say what the Eagles do in the draft go up, stay put or trade back will depend on how the players fall…

          • knighn

            Can’t see them trading up unless there is just a knockout of a value. This draft class is too deep.

          • oreofestar

            I agree if Barr was there at like 19 I could see them jumping GB and ARZ but I do not expect them to soar up in the draft

      • oreofestar

        unless you are trading up for Evans or getting ODB at 22 neither of which are likely I would rather take Ealy, Fuller, or someone else because Coleman, Moncrief, Benjamin, Lattimor, Seferian-Jenkins, Amaro, Matthews, Robinson, Adams and other are amazing weapons we can get in the 2nd-4th round

        • Will

          Agree less top Defensive player’s we need an ROLB, Safety, and a NT, …

        • Tk-rete

          Why isn’t anyone mentioning Martavis Bryant? Another AJ Green!

  • JosephR2225

    Gil Brandt says Allen Robinson killing it at Pro Day. Ran sub-4.5.

    • Will

      ran 4.6 at combine…

    • oreofestar

      f***

      • JosephR2225

        Now before you react… keep in mind Gil Brandt is in the advanced stages of senility. He has good days and bad.

        • oreofestar

          damn but if he 4.5 that gets the speed question out of the way, freaking forget about him lasting to 54 now

          • cliff henny

            they cant all go top50.

          • oreofestar

            I know….but I prefer Robinson to some of the guys we would get, F*** it I want to trade down badly

          • cliff henny

            he jumps in top50, pushes guy like Marcus Smith or KVN down that much closer to #54.

          • oreofestar

            but what happens if we used the first pick on D

          • Will

            Our Defense would be better…

          • oreofestar

            I am saying then it would not matter if KVN or Smith falls because if we take Ealy then we would not even draft them

          • cliff henny

            Eagles will walk with weapons, not terribly worried there

          • Tom W

            Aside from Barr, don’t really see any first round pick what we will use on defense.

            And I truly believe we will trade back. Only concern is fat andy is right behind us and wants to trade back too.

          • GEAGLE

            A rob and Moncreif will go top 50

          • cliff henny

            bet moncrief doesnt

          • GEAGLE

            He will…but ok…

  • cliff henny

    never even heard of this guy till the combine, add another beast possibility to the list. this point, I’ve almost come to grips with not getting Evans cause Kelly’s walking from draft with 2 beasts and bet they bring a 3rd in as UDFA that gets press during camp. after Sammy W and Evans, all these guys have flaws, least Eagles have a coach that made Cooper look good. mean, Riley stunk to high heaven, cant wait to see what Kelly does with couple of these freaks.

    • oreofestar

      Coleman, Moncrief, Benjamin, Lattimor, Seferian-Jenkins, Amaro, Matthews, Robinson, Adams and other are amazing weapons we can get in the 2nd-4th round and Latimer is a beast watch his michigan st. tape where he put on a show against Dennard who will be a top 25 pick

      • cliff henny

        com’on 49ers, come a knocking with your 2nd, 2 3rds and a 4th for eagles 22nd. then, tak’em ALL!!!!!

        • oreofestar

          Wait you mean 56,77,94, and a 4th for 22?

          • cliff henny

            something like that-have 3 3rd round pick-the latter 2, math works.

          • oreofestar

            so you do not even want a top 50 pick

          • cliff henny

            nope, but 7 from 54 thru 125. it could be a sick-ass haul

          • Tom W

            That would be amazing.

          • cliff henny

            yup, cant get evans or Barr, then this trade is 3rd on my list. it’s not a first-pick crazy trade, saw math, 9ers end up with higher points.

          • oreofestar

            hmmmm that is low but at 54,56,77,86,94,whatever their 4th is and 126 it would give us a ton of options it just means we would not get an elite prospect but would they even have all of those picks after they trade up from 30 like they likely will

          • cliff henny

            yeah, they be left with 2 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, and 5 picks in the 5th-7th rounds, don’t know exactly which selections. embarrassment of riches for SF.

          • oreofestar

            meh I personally would not trade down that low but if SF would give us 2 3rd and a 4th to move down 34 spots then whatevs

          • GEAGLE

            No first,
            Two 2’s
            Three 3’s…trade out of round 3 with one of the 3 picks. So we can stock up on rounds 5-7

          • cliff henny

            trade 3rd for 5th and 6th, Graham for a 6th… end up with 2-2nds, 2-3rd, 2-4th 2-5th 2-6th and a 7th

          • GEAGLE

            I’ll co-sign that!!!

            Still want to trade a 2015 2nd for an extra 3rd…and then use our first round pick next year to trade back and get that pick back

      • anon

        Jarvis Landry!!

        • oreofestar

          meh….

          • anon

            We’ll see at pro-day tomorrow Landry vs. ODB. I wonder if his parents were Wu-Tang fans.

      • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

        I really don’t like Amaro. The two games I saw he gave such a lackadaisical effort blocking and running. Limited sample. Sef-Jenkins looks like a QBs best friend. Reminds me of Celeks skill set more than the H-back type. Same for Fiedorkowitz? Type of guys you’d hate to see bailing Eli out for the next 8yrs, bleeding you on 3rd downs. Just big solid targets. Also Niklas from ND I can see working here in a MOVE roll. And much as I hate to say it, if you can get Lyerla in the 6th or later go for it. That kid will make plays if you keep him off J Street. I’d love to walk away with a tight end

  • Will

    Agree less top Defensive player’s to choose from we need an ROLB, Safety, and a NT, …maybe 3 good safeties, 3-5 ROLB’s, 2-3 NT’s…8-10 WR’s……

    • oreofestar

      22 is that spot where all the elite talent had just been taken so if Ealy is there at 22 I take him so I can focus on offense for 2,3 unless a trade down was available

      • Will

        yeah it looks like Kony will be BPA…then grab a WR and hope Deone drops into the 3rd…

        • oreofestar

          Deonne will not drop to 3rd he may not even drop to 54 now it really depends if they like Ealy because if they do not there are few other options but if they like him as much as I do he should be the pick also Cliff gave a cool trade idea that I do not think we will be able to do but 22 for 56,77,94, and their 4th is at the least intriguing

          • Will

            dropping back really depends on who fell to you if your guys are gone then trade back….

          • oreofestar

            yeah if you hate what is left then trade back but only if you can get good value in return

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I just don’t see Ealy as a LB in NFL. I see him as a DE NYG could like or even more possibly DAL.

  • Neanderthal

    on mock draft on first pick,com it gave me a (c) for taking latimer in the 4th rd. Opinions are all over with this guy. I like what i see.

    • Neanderthal

      Ha. Just did another draft . Got a (c-) for Latimer in 5th

  • mksp

    1) Off topic, but can some of you douchebags please stop writing “I’m hearing…..” -> You’re not “hearing” anything, you’re reading twitter and articles. You’re not an insider. Mannnn.

    2) Latimer is going in the 2nd.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000339778/article/indiana-wr-cody-latimer-rising-fast-on-nfl-draft-boards?campaign=Twitter_nfl_cb

    • Tom W

      Did you read the article? Dunno who Mike Huguenin but I know he isn’t a draft guy. Just because 8 teams are meeting w Latimer, I don’t think it is safe to say he is going in the second vs the third or fourth for that matter.

      Every team has 30 interviews, every team has a pick in the first, second, third, fourth rds.

      Merely bc carolina and philly and bills are looking at him, doesn’t mean his is going in the last first or early second as this dope concludes especially considering there are more productive and athletically gifted wrs from bigger programs.

      15-20 wrs get draft in first 4 rounds over last 10 yrs of draft. I could see him go in the second or third or even fourth at this point. not rankings just 20 wrs who could go in first 4 rds …

      Watkins
      Evans
      ODB
      Cooks
      Lee
      Benjamin
      Robinson
      Adams
      Matthews
      Latimer
      Moncrief
      Bryant
      Landry
      Herron
      Ellington
      Huff
      Abbrederis
      Norwood
      Janis
      Coleman

      • mksp

        I’ve seen other tweets about him going late first, that was just one article I pulled up.

        Just want people to stop mocking him in the 3rd / 4th round, its not happening.

    • Andy124

      I’m hearing a lot of hostility coming from you. You sound a bit upset. I mean, your tone of voice when you called us douchebags was downright ugly.

      • mksp

        +1

  • Neanderthal

    Seeking opinions on Dee Ford. I think Mathis type. I love nfl.com…. Draft profile has him as a 4-5th rd pick. I might even trade up for him if he is available in 4th. Dee or Lee is my pick

    • Tom W

      Troll?
      ford is a late first rounder. elite pass rusher but size makes him a tough projection at the next level. doesn’t play the run well, tackle well, or set edge well. on 6 2 240 so most likely undersized to play olb in a 3-4 for some teams. probably not a three down player for a couple yrs to he builds up size strength and proper technique. high motor guy.

      • Neanderthal

        LOL. My point exactly. nfl.com sucks. I would be very happy with Ford at 22.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I’m not even sure if I’d call him an elite pass rusher. Almost exclusively played left side going up against RTs. So I’m sure that padded his sack numbers. I also noticed that on the rare occasions he did play the right side, LTs could neutralize him. Definitely doesn’t play run well at all. In fact, he’s a liability in the run game with his style of shooting aimlessly upfield, leaving gaps as wide as Moses parting the Red Sea behind him.

        I don’t think he’s a fit here as the number of projections outweigh his potential ceiling and would agree that he’s gonna take at least a year or two to be a 3 down player.

        Seems better suited for DE in 4-3 wide 9, which we abandoned than a 3-4 OLB, or even possibly a stand up strong side rusher in 4-3 under front where he has help. We need round pegs for our round pegs. If he had the measurables, maybe. But he ain’t getting any taller.

        • HowieGambleChipsAllDay

          My only real exposure to him was in the Championship gam, which I just rewatched, and I came away impressed for the most part. I thought he ended in frame on nearly every play. Saw him chase plays from the opposite side of the field 30+yards, and show some dog and a good motor.

          He didn’t seem to have much of a repertoire of pass rush moves, yet consistently got in Winstons face, finished with 2 sacks. Did a decent job setting the edgeWhen they ran at him, but FSU did a fair amount of damage between the tackles. Only seen him in coverage maybe 3-4 plays. One a seam vs. TE that never really developed, the others chasing backs in the flat. No real opinion there.

          I thought he might have tired by the end , but its the title game. He earned it. Overall, I think he worked his ass off. Never got manhandled. Would have been nice to see him make a play on that final drive, and help his team get a stop with the title on the line, but he never really threatened. Definitely has room to improve, but the talent and build to do it. I would take him over Ealy. Especially if he starts to slide. It’s a no brainer in round 2

  • Dilwala_G

    Is it the foot injury that is keeping this guy out of first-round projections? What am I missing? Sounds like he had good production, has ideal size and very good speed – so, what’s not to like?