Twitter Mailbag: Undue Pressure On Chip?

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Possible if there is a player they feel they just gotta  have. (Adam Caplan says that wide receiver Mike Evans is on the team’s radar.)But given that they only have six draft picks to begin with, I think there’s a greater chance we see the Eagles trade back in a round or two in the name of gathering more firepower.

“We’d certainly like to have more picks, there is no question about it,” Howie Roseman said at the owners meetings. “I think that’s something this time of year you’re always looking for. Sometimes that doesn’t happen until draft day.




"When we're on the clock, it's a very simple formula: If a player is there that rates with that selection based on our draft board and where we are, we're going to take him. If we feel like there is a group of players that are kind of in the next tier and we have a trade back [proposal], we're going to look at the trade back. It's hard to know until draft day if those scenarios will come to fruition."

Not banking on it.  Right now the starters are Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper. I couldn't even tell you who the third receiver is. Here are the other wideouts currently on the roster:

Arrelious Benn
B.J. Cunningham
Damaris Johnson
Jeff Maehl
Ifeanyi Momah
Will Murphy
Brad Smith

I guess you could say Benn is the next man in, but I need to see the guy make it through the summer healthy before I even begin to consider him an option. Smith is entering his ninth NFL season, and has never had more than 325 yards in a season during his pro career. Maybe one of the other guys will be a surprise contributor, but I can't sell you on any of them with confidence.

They will no doubt take a receiver in the draft, but as Sheil pointed out, you can't rely on rookie receivers to be instant difference-makers. There is typically a maturation process involved. It should be noted that most of the receivers in this draft are underclassmen and therefor might need a little extra seasoning before they hit their stride.

Chip Kelly has a handful of tight ends and a receiving back in Darren Sproles that he can lean on. But the decision to move on from DeSean Jackson has left them quite thin at receiver. He better hope the top guys stay healthy.

If Kelly is feeling any pressure based on the 0ffseason moves/non-moves, he has himself to thank. Jeff Lurie said he would have opened up the check book if his head coach thought acquiring Jairus Byrd was the right course of action, but Kelly went in a different direction and instead made a handful of mid to lower-tier signings. If Kelly wanted Jackson here, he would be here. I don't think Howie Roseman will walk into Kelly's office and try to dictate the roster to him any time soon.

I agree that we're not looking at the finished product. There is the draft, of course. I would also keep an eye on the trade front. The defensive side of the ball feels incomplete, and there is only so much they can accomplish in this draft. I would not be surprised if they were aggressive in their pursuits if a player they like becomes available.

No question Kelly and his system are in the spotlight this season. He cut ties with one of his top offensive players, and is betting that the team can still move onward and upward. Kelly's machine kept humming in college even as the roster and quarterbacks changed. He had to use three QBs at one point or another last season and the offense still managed to set a bunch of franchise records. He is obviously confident in his system, and has a track record that suggests his confidence is justified.

This is a big test, though. Kelly has often said that this game is all about having good players, and he just cut one of his top talents. Very curious to see how it all plays out.

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  • Uncle Wonder

    If Chip is worried about pressure, he is in the wrong profession

    • Maggie

      There has been no indication that Chip is worrying about pressure, just other people saying it. ;~)

  • cliff henny

    fun chart. obviously doesn’t have guaranteed money, but does show activity. Dallas’ cap issue meant they can improve team. Washington and Snyder are spending like drunken sailors again. NYGs are doing replay or Philly’s ’10, it just doesn’t work.
    TeamMoney Spent On SigningsMoney Paid By Other TeamsDallas Cowboys$10,780,000$61,040,938New York Giants$102,915,000*$59,945,000Philadelphia Eagles$37,350,000$39,200,000Washington Redskins$109,115,000**$6,920,000**

    • Jarrod

      What do you mean by ‘Money Paid By Other Teams’?

      • cliff henny

        player’s on team in ’13 that are getting paid by another in ’14, like jax. not sure who the other 15m is for eagles.

        • Adam G

          Geathers and Vick. But still missing a few mil

          • cliff henny

            yeah, I didn’t make it. and the * and ** means it’s short too. doesn’t change overall theme

    • GEAGLE

      Did you include Ayers and Mike Patt recent giant signings?

  • TOm W

    Thought last year was referendum year that the national media conjured up and Chip passed w flying colors. Think he showed he can do more w less on offense than most coaches out there … helping foles blossom into a stud, helping shady have a career year, helping cooper turn from stiff to 1000 yd wr, helping turn around djaz’s career after 4 declining years, helping celek look younger then ever …. all with only one new starter in rookie lane johnson who looks like a future probowl tackle.

    • cliff henny

      nope…he’s starting over from scratch

    • greenblood0118

      They have to find stuff to write about, so why not create a stir? Typical modern so-called journalism.

    • reb

      Maybe he’s got some super-analytic method a la “money ball” that no one else has figured out yet; take players others don’t want, dump the overpaid stars, mix in a little motivation and start winning games. One can dream.

      • John J. King

        That’s pretty much the Seahawks formula.

        • Reef215

          Luck…. Don’t forget the Seahawks had a lot of luck

          • Honest_T

            Also, cheating. Let’s not forget that they earned the name Se”Adderall”!

          • John J. King

            First, I was talking about the personnel policies in Seattle and second, Luck is defined as the residual of hard work.

          • Andy124

            I’m pretty sure that’s not the real definition of luck. :)

          • Amar (India)

            I’ve seen a lot of lazy people get really lucky….So, its a very flimsy definition.

          • jsingleton

            Hate much

        • jsingleton

          Well i can’t wait to see how this works out for the Eagles!

  • Honest_T

    I know everyone is looking at the WR glass as half empty, but Chip turned Riley Cooper into a reliable receiver. I don’t see why that can’t happen with Benn, Smith, Maehl, and company? Those guys have some serious ability that can be unlocked during an offseason of work.

    • OldDocRoss

      Agreed, and to be honest I think looking at the WR glass at all inn isolation is the wrong way to view it.

      We’ve got Sproles, McCoy, Ertz, and Celek who between them could contribute 150-200 catches if they stay healthy. Chuck in another 150 from your two starting WRs and you’re actually not looking for too much from other guys on the roster.

      Just because a guy doesn’t have “WR” next to his name doesn’t mean he can’t be a huge part of the passing game in our O.

    • Javi Echie

      and the scheme does have a lot to do with it. Hell Maehl was Chip’s only 1000 yard receiver while at Oregon so I don’t see why one wr on the roster or from the draft can emerge to have a good year

    • peteike

      Maehl, haha, wait, Benn and Smith were counting on also, cmon man. Im optimistic also but really, put your chips into the draft pick if anything.

      • Kev_H

        Chip spends a lot of time watching players and seems to know what he wants. To me, Benn seems to have everything Kelly’s looking for. He’s not some shmoe they signed of the streets, they traded picks for him and signed him for two years. You have to believe he’ll make some noise if he’s healthy and I’m sure the Eagles are monitoring his health closely.

    • anon

      Those guys are talent lite, Smith can return a little, but those guys are upgrades ready to happen.

      • Honest_T

        Would you have thought Coop would have accomplished what he did last year?

        Benn has the same measurables as Maclin but was in a terrible O in Tampa, If healthy he could outperform Cooper.

        Smith can do a lot with the ball in space, and again was stuck in terrible Offenses that didn’t use him.

        Maehl is as fast as DJax and more agile (best 3 cone drill at the combine in not only his class but the 6 before him too). I’m not saying they are polished, but I would not be surprised if an entire offseason of work leads one of these guys to realize his potential.

        • juaniflaco

          really? I thought he was a 4.6 guy or something. Not saying he’s a terrible player, he made it to the NFL obviously and produced big time in college but seems like his ceiling is pretty limited.

        • GEAGLE

          Benn would be such a steal for us if his damn knees could hold up.,feel bad for Rejus, hoping he can get one year of good health but if suffers another knee injury, it’s prob time to retire

        • hoboduck

          Maehl is a stud and will (if given the opportunity) develop into the franchise pro bowl player I know he can be. He catches anything close to him and get yards after the catch. He’s not afraid to lay out for the catch. CK actually knows what he is doing.
          Just sayin….

          • GEAGLE

            Pro bowl ceiling?

        • GEAGLE

          Jeff Maehl had a similar combine to Desean? Say WHAAAAAAAAAAAT????
          ..
          Want to add Moncreif for Chip to develop. 6’2 220lbs, 4.40
          3rd highest vertical leap of WRs at the combine
          3rd fastest time of WRs, and he is one of the bigger ones
          1st in broad Jump…
          ..
          Dude will be a monster in two years with Chip and FOles…stuck a jug machine in every room in his house lol

          • Honest_T

            I have to correct that, Maehl’s 40 time is 4.56, which is nowhere near DJax. One of his 40 times was 4.43, but that seems like an outlier. Still, his 3-cone was 6.42 which is sick! DJax was 6.82.

            Still, I really think he has potential to at least bring something similar to Avant with more upside. I’m not putting him in the pro-bowl yet.

          • GEAGLE

            Fair…I don’t know much about Maehl to be debating him,

          • Johnny Domino

            And here I thought you were a master debater.

    • John J. King

      If Benn stays healthy he can be a stud.

    • paul from nc

      One word why not — talent

  • addicted2mula

    I wish Ifeanyi Momah could make the team. If he could get his skills back he would be a great addition to the squad.

    • Adam

      What skills are we talking here? He had a a career high season of like 400 yards in college.

    • GEAGLE

      I need to take a men in black memory eraser to eliminate the memory of Momah from,every eagles,fans brain.did fans love Hank Basket this much?

      • addicted2mula

        Bahahaha that really made me laugh. Can a man wish. He has the size

        • GEAGLE

          I wish too man…hey I believe he will be at our training camp, hopefully he shows up as an NFL ready monster….i wasn’t really coming at your neck, it’s just amazing how much I hear that guys name…if he doesn’t work out, he may be able to help the sixers lol Momah has a cult following in philly…
          ..
          My Cult God is Bryan Braman!!!

          • addicted2mula

            Do you think Maclin can replace WhoSean?

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t think he needs to,..but I will say, that if Maclin is and stays healthy, I would expect similar production to what Desean gave us last year..and if he doesn’t put up the same stats, it would be because we had more weapons to incorporate than last year…
            ..
            Sproles,Ertz(sophmore),Maclin(if he plays 16 games) should still be an upgrade to Avant,Ertz(rookie) and Desean…

          • addicted2mula

            I agree

  • Kev_H

    I think some people think Kelly was hired to be Andy Reid. I was skeptical of the hire but sold on his approach. He didn’t come in and just start transforming the roster. He started everyone off with a clean slate, gave it a year, and kept the best of them while moving on from the worst.

    Head coaching is a high pressure position, but the best have a plan, are hired because of their plan, and don’t deviate from it. I never agreed with it, but for the first 5-6 years it was clear Reid had a plan and it showed results. It looked like it got sidetracked a little after the Super Bowl year, but he still seemed to be on course with his plan and his methods in 2006-2007. Those last 5 years it seemed like the wheels came completely off the wagon as Reid appeared to be jumping on every fad (the wildcat) or short-term opportunity (a whole list of players that didn’t seem to fit) that came down the road. Your team isn’t going to win with a coach who is responsive to hoi polloi and who is afraid to do what he knows is best because he doesn’t have the courage to cut a guy with nice fantasy numbers.

    • Maggie

      Many upvotes. Being a member of the hoi polloi myself, and seeing the extremely divergent opinions of other members, I can’t fathom why anybody in any sport would pay the slightest bit of attention to us!

    • jabostick

      No plans are risk free, though. And if part of the plan was to jettison a good-but-troubled star that’s fine. But I hope getting nothing in compensation wasn’t part of the plan. I think it was a risky move. Perhaps necessary in his mind but still risky.

      I’ve said all along that Chip has earned benefit of the doubt with me but it is a bit of blind faith right now because some of the moves are confusing.

      • Will

        DeSean wanted Guaranteed money….what if the Eagles were not gonna give him guaranteed money? Then if they trade him to Bills or any other team. DeSean still has no Guaranteed money….what if the only way was to cut him and the Eagles did him a solid or favor? DeSean got what he asked for 16 million guaranteed money which gives him security.Football is a violent game one bad injury and his career would be over so would the pay checks…now if GOD Forbid DeSean gets hurt he is guaranteed 16 million….. The only way that happens is if he cut so he could sign a new deal…..So maybe they gave him what he wanted he was great as a player for 6 years…quite a few player’s spoke highly of him….So I’m still not sure what really happened but the bottom line is DeSean got exactly what he asked for….

  • Malcolm Jones

    I think if Benn is healthy he can be an absolute beast. I also think BJ Cunningham has potential. I would love to see Momah come into form, and prove he can be more than a camp body. Then draft Cooks or Odell and this is a very scary group.

  • Yes_General

    “Eagles rarely use future picks to move up in the draft. Seems like the year to do it to get an impact OLB/Safety/WR. Thoughts?”

    This is definitely the year. I want a superbowl dammit. Losing Desean and watching Seattle win a superbowl i hope put more pressure on the eagles to really attack this year’s draft. I hope we draft 4 players within the first 3 rounds. Slot WR 190lbs +, Safety, OLB, Corner

  • Will

    CK lives, breathes, and thinks football …A lot of people doubted Chip last year where did that get them…The only pressure is the stress he conjures up for opposing Defenses…Chip did remark they are not gonna ignore the Defense or something along those lines…Howie said WR can be found in a lot of rounds….I have no idea who they will target, who they like, or what the plan is in the upcoming draft…I would say that CK is a calculating thinker and has a well thought out plan with a lot of contingent ideas or back up plans if things do go as exactly as he like. He lost Maclin in camp, Vick early in the season…the team didn’t miss a beat…I’d venture to say Chip has done his homework and is very focused on the upcoming draft…. Pressure, heat, heavy weight over time turns coal into diamonds…the Man is a proven Winner… and hates to lose…

    • paul from nc

      I so hope you’re right. I was really getting excited about the off season moves, but giving away a top talent for nothing, makes no sense. If he really didn’t want him, I’m sure there were teams that would take him, even if we had to pay part of his salary. We have $6MM in dead money anyway.

  • TOm W

    Almost impossible to do realistic early round trades because they are so overweighted and way off trade chart. I emailed the owners of website and told them I loved their product but if I had one complaint its trades in first four rounds are so off base compared to trade chart its hard to make realistic trade down. so i tried an honest draft and got back our 6th by dropping a few spots in the 4th round. nothing crazy.

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 22: Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State (A-) feel free to substitute odb

    Round 2 Pick 22: Dee Ford, DE, Auburn (A) never but substitute marcus or attouchi

    Round 3 Pick 22: Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt (A) never happen but sub moncrief or bryant

    Round 4 Pick 28 (CAR): Lamin Barrow, ILB, LSU (B+) or christian jones

    Round 5 Pick 22: Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon (A-) or dontae johnson or exum

    Round 6 Pick 15 (CHI): Justin Ellis, DT, Louisiana Tech (A) or kerr or deandre

    Round 7 Pick 22: Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma (B+) or walt aikens

    • cliff henny

      give me an “or” draft with the 1st guy if choice of 2, and i’m running thru streets naked-might wear a tommy bahama shirt just to let everyone know i’m having fun

    • GEAGLE

      I see you like my boy Deandre

      • Tom W

        relax. chip recruited him along w alotta guys in the draft. read an article this week on every player he recruited in this draft class. odb and cooks on that list too. just trying to look at positional fit and patterns. I actually think its more likely we avoid that position altogether w the udfas coach azz has been working out all offseason from s miss and arkansas and the sec.

        • GEAGLE

          Chip recruited Deandre Coleman? Can you hook a brother up with that link to all his past recruits?

        • GEAGLE

          Relax? You post about draft picks every day for past 3 months, and I doubt you can point to one previous post where you wrote Deandre Coleman lol tell me again how Exum is a scumbag haha

  • barneygoogle

    This is a long term process. If we go back to 9-7 this season with a ton of young players growing together…people won’t be too upset. I want to see a contender here for many years into the future. Build it right.

    • bobby bo

      Something tells me this is what the thinking was inside Nova Care. Why dump your second-best offensive weapon for nothing (and allow a division rival to scoop him up) unless you know something the rest of us don’t?
      I have to assume it had everything to do with chemistry and other behaviors/attitudes. They are still BUILDING a team. They haven’t brought in Chip’s guys and he’s trying to mold the young players here into his vision.
      Shocked that they did so in this manner, however.

  • peteike

    theyll have to pull off a julio jones type deal to move up for Evans, ok maybe not that much but it will cost em.

  • Dom Trombone

    Rd 1- Marqise Lee, WR, USC
    Rd 2- Marcus Smith, OLB, Louisville
    Rd 3- Phillip Gaines, CB, Rice
    Rd 4- Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana
    Rd 5- Antone Exum, DB, Va. Tech
    Rd 7- Logan Thomas, QB, Va. Tech

    Thoughts?

    • JosephR2225

      Cody Latimer’s stock is rising fast. Jason McIntyre at thebiglead.com projected him in the late first round. I don’t think he’s there in the fourth.

      And I hope, like me, you want to make Logan Thomas into a TE, because he’s a dreadful quarterback.

      • Tom w

        Late first round or second is laughable. A week ago he was a fifth rounder or later. It’s a 4.44 time at a proday that is always considered faster than a combine time. Kid is raw and w so much talent and size and speed at wr this year, no reason to force a guy up save a freak like martavius Bryant.

        • Honest_T

          Matt Waldmen, who write the Rookie ScoutinReport (RSP) said He’s take Latimer over Benjamin, Lee, Matthews, Landry, Cooks, and any of the other WR people are talking about in late 1 early 2nd rounds.

          He is also big on Richardson out of Colorado, compared him to Marvin Harrison.

          • Tom W

            I buy the portfolio every year … he is better evaluating rbs than wrs and isn’t a scout or ever been employed by a high school, college or nfl team. big fantasy football guy who i respect.

            And Matt knows you don’t overdraft a player just because you like him. if he is projected by others to go in the fourth, fifth round (which latimer is by most draftniks), you would be a fool to draft him in the first or second round.

    • Javi Echie

      remove logan Thomas for any other player and that’d be a pretty nice draft.

      • Andy124

        Or replace his Q with an OL.

    • Tom w

      Sub cooks or odb for Lee and we good. All your picks should be there including latimer w such a deep wr draft class. A good forty time doesn’t make a high pick.

      • Duck Eagle Maniac

        chill out, Chip know what he’s doing, has known what he’s doing all along. If the Eagles go on the clock with Evans Lee and Bekam their, and Chip chooses Lee, than that was the right pick. Like you said, a good fourty doesn’t make a good player, Chippah played against this guy in college, he’ll know if he’s good period.

    • Gil

      Round 3- Buchanon hard hitting safety (instead of CB Gaines)

    • GEAGLE

      Love smith and exum

  • Birds4Life

    Chung signed with the Patriots! We really need some safety help now!

    • GEAGLE

      Coleman visited jets now he is on his way to Colts

  • anon

    Clowney. Watched his pro day — it was pretty somehow he’s a pass rusher and has hips to play in space. Texans will think really hard about that. If they put him next to Watt you gotta imagine someone on that font 7’s getting a free line to the QB.

    CK probably hates him given the criticism.

    • cliff henny

      that double footed 7 bag jump sprint and pick up2 tennis balls was crazy athletic sexy.

      • GEAGLE

        I know Yous all love Evans…but Clowney and Greg Robinson are the only players worth trading that high for….
        ..
        Evans is only awesome because he is NFL ready and comes with little bust potential, when in reality there are prospects that a good coach can get and develop into a similar talent..only difference is Evans will be ready to beast in September, while the other prospects will need a year or two to develop…

        • Amar (India)

          Could we have traded DeSean a 1st and a 2nd round pick for the 1st overall (Clowney)
          Can’t believe we got NOTHING for him.

          • GEAGLE

            Just kick me In the nuts while u are at it

  • GEAGLE

    I repeat…must trade out of round one. Must trade a 2015 2nd Round pick for a 2014 3rd round picks…so we can end up with No 1st rounder, two 2’s and three 3’s…get it done Howie…

    Thinking Deandre Coleman from Cal is who we will target to back up Bennie Logan

    Execs are saying ODB has solidified himself as the 3rd WR off the board

    • UKEagle99

      I like the trade a 2015 2nd for a 2014 3rd, need to target someone picking early in the 3rd if you can, hopefully our 2015 2nd will be a very late one, if not the last!

      • GEAGLE

        I want the 77th pick from the niners

        • UKEagle99

          Clevelands 71st might be an option…

          • GEAGLE

            Look for teams that have multiple 3rd round compensatory picks, that’s a team that would be willing to part with their normal 3rd round pick for a second rounder in 2015

    • TOm W

      How bout we just trade back in twice … instead of wasting future picks. trade back from 22 to early second w the jags so they can get Carr and we get their third and fifth … then trade back again from that second round pick w a team w success moving up (like vikes) who may want garappolo or lsu qb or our late second round pick back into third.

      otherwise we could gotta look to the browns and niners and ravens as trade partners for that 2015 pick …

      execs blah blah … could be cooks or benjamin depending on what teams what … doesn’t matter to me. ravens, steelers, jets are such a mess could easily avoid wr

      Don’t think the backup to Bennie is a priority … could be one position we address after draft … seems to me if there is versatile guard late in draft that is more important at this point.

      • GEAGLE

        We don’t even have enough DL bodies.,,I’d bet DL is more of a priority than OL to the eagles…and I’m talking about using a 5th or 6th on a DL
        ..
        Sure, I’d trade back as many times as teams let us….but even if they let us trade back twice, I’d still like to Yous next years 2nd to get an extra 3rd….even if we trade back 3 times and have 4 3rd round picks, I’d still want to aquire a 5th for next years two…if we take that next step like we are supposed to, then all our picks next year will be around #25.,,so that second round pick we would owe will practically be a 3rd rounder….plus we can always try to trade back next year and recoup the pick we traded away

    • oreofestar

      Hmmm I really do not want to say trade down that first pick it really depends who is there, also I really think we should take our 3rd a move down like 40 spots with it and collect an extra 5 and 6

  • UKEagle99

    As I see it our WR situation is not far from what is was after Maclin went down in pre-season last year. I see a lot of people wondering how a rookie replaces Jackson. I believe as far as Chip is concerned Maclin is replacing Jackson and the rookie will replace Maclin.

    Now, Maclin gets ripped by a lot of fans and yes he does get tackled by a blade of grass every now and then but he does a lot of things well, imo.

    @cover32_PHI posted this graphic on Twitter a few days ago and I think it throws light on the situation. Jackson owns the yardage but he doesn’t come close to Maclin’s 1st down/TD ratio. The graphic only shows their play under Reid which I think is fair, I’m hoping Maclin has a career year like everyone else enjoyed this year!

    • Guest

      How does 37 1st downs/season not come as close as 40 1st downs/season especially considering it is over a 13-game season? I would say they are both comparable. What is not shown is how DCs have to game-plan for Jackson. Let’s see how DCs handle Maclin.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        DJ has 13 games more in this chart. To really make the point, the last 13 games from DJ has to be taken away or one needs to project 13 more games for Mac under Reid’s system.

    • anon

      This is surprising. I didn’t realize Desean was a big play receiver who only ran a couple of routes while Andy was here.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        Maybe you missed the chart in Sheil’s earlier post, but almost 60% of his yards came on four deep(er) routes this past season, while the remaining 40% came on 7 shorter routes. His bread and butter didn’t change, really.

        • anon

          I’d be interested to see the route tree under Andy. That said i think DJax proved that he could be a more well rounded Wr than we thought previously.

          He had 60 of his 82 catches for first downs this year.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I offer this. Was he more well-rounded or did Chip’s offense maximize his talent by getting him in space more? I don’t have the route breakdown in front of me, but of those seven routes making up 40% of the yards, a good bit of the yardage was screens and hitches from what I remember. It’s not like he’s a guy you can rely upon on 3rd and 6 for a quick out route to get the first. I’m really not trying to minimize him, because you can’t teach speed and he has awesome hands, but it just seems to me he’s not a “complete” receiver, even when he’s better utilized.

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Have to compare a full season under Chip. I’d be curious what this looked like with DJ stopped at 59 games.

      • Guest

        I have done that, what became immediately apparent is that in doing this you are removing Jackson’s worst season. All his stats based on averages get a bump up and he clearly gets more yards than Maclin.

        In doing this I was not intending to belittle Jackson’s efforts but to illustrate that we are not looking for a rookie to replace Jackson’s production but looking for Maclin to step in.

        From CKs stand point, he may well be thinking, last year I had Jackson, no Maclin. This year I have Maclin, no Jackson. My plan is to score points, what’s your plan?

        I get that some people are upset but life goes on, I doubt we will find out why, maybe when CK writes his biography after retiring as the most successful coach in Eagles history and the man to finally bring a Lombardi to the City ;-)

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Interesting, thanks for doing this. Just one thing, I’m assuming that for yards/season, a rounded number was used, as opposed to dividing 59 by 16 to get 3.6875, which makes both of their yrd/season increase, Jax to 1084 and Maclin to 936. Doesn’t change anything, just me being picky. Again, thanks, this is pretty awesome.

    • Amar (India)

      That makes me feel a lot better…only to realize Maclin did that while Desean attracted #1 attention and Desean achieved this despite the fact.

      • paul from nc

        And Jackson wasn’t coming off an ACL. Don’t fell better yet. Let’s see if he holds up. As the article said, there is no backups in waiting and a rookie WR usually doesn’t produce until year 2 or 3.

      • Yes_General

        Also Desean achieved these stats typically during the 1st half of the season. Teams easily took him out of games towards the end of the regular season. So the question is can Maclin show up late in the season something Desean couldnt do with the Eagles.

  • Honest_T

    I listened to the Marcellus Wiley interview with Dan Lebatard and he said Chip (who recruited him to Columbia) believes everything you do should be aimed at making you a better football player. That is why there are smoothies and monitors, etc..to maximize your performance. His sense is that DJax wasn’t committed to it, and Chip sent him packing. Great interview if you have a few minutes.

  • Scott J

    I predict the Eagles will trade down to the Niners spot (30). The Niners have a boatload of picks and they’ll want to move up. Although I think they will want to move up higher than 22.

    • GEAGLE

      Predict we trade out of round 1, and our first pick will be the 7th pick in round 2….and then we will aquire the 77th pick(RD3) from
      San Fran for a 2015 second round pick

      • cliff henny

        your desire for the 77th pick seems very specific.

        • GEAGLE

          It’s the Niners pick…figure they open for business….I don’t want a 2nd round pick because that would cost next years first rounder..I’d rather trade next years second rounder, and then use our first rounder next year to try and trade back and recoup that second rounder we lost……

          And if we can’t get 77 from San Fran, I’m sure we can get a 3rd round pick from someone…I target round 3 because that’s when compensatory picks start..teams can’t trade away a comp…however, if you are a team with two or 3 third round comp picks, you can afford to trade away your normal 3rd for a second rounder next year. Because you still have 3rd round comp pics to add players

      • UKEagle99

        If that does pan out I’d be interested in who we would acquire with picks 39, 54 & 77. Hard to project that far down I appreciate and the BPA mantra still rings true but the weighting at 39 has to be WR/OLB doesn’t it? All other things being equal.

        • UKEagle99

          BTW I believe we need more pass rush than pass catcher, for what it’s worth.

          • GEAGLE

            Agreed…pass rusher is also more valued positionally speaking

        • GEAGLE

          Yes I’d assume WR OLB…OLB is going to be drafted early no matter what. It’s way more valued than WR generally speaking, and this is NOT a deep class for pass rushers, I just don’t see how 3 rounds could pass without the eagles securing an OLB…now it also helps, that 39-54 is a sweet spot for WRs and OLBs, so it’s not like we would have to reach to fill those positions….at 54, Marcus Smifh,attaboy,Demarcus Lawrence! Murphy, one will be on the board…and we can find a serious WR talent as well In that range….if it’s not a WR or OLB….then I would assume:
          1) A DL we had a first round grade on falls like Tuitt,Nix,Hageman..Or…a Serious TE talent like Sefarian Jenkins falls to 54…

  • Tom W

    Eagles Mock draft — post desean No Trades

    1) Brandon Cooks (wr – Oregon St.) ( Or ODB)

    2) Marcus Smith (olb – louisville) (or Attouchi)

    3) McGill (6 3 corner – Utah)

    4) Christian Jones (ilb – fsu)
    5) Dontae Johnson s/corner nc state or Exum safety/corner va tech

    7) DAT or Colt or Kerr

    • Glenn

      I don’t think Cooks is going to be there when the Eagles pick. I hope so, but I think the Jets swoop him up.

      • Tom W

        Cooks or ODB doesn’t matter to me … jets could just as easily draft a corner or safety which are bigger needs at this point or a qb who falls or edge rusher.

        • Glenn

          Beckham will be picked by the Steelers. Cooks by Jets. Or vice versa. I think we will be left with Lee or Benjamin. Or we are lucky enough to have one of the top two safeties slide.

        • GEAGLE

          I been talking about Brandin since like Octover, I love that kid, but I hate to say it, I’m starting to think the Eagles will have ZERO interest in him as a first round pick…and I’m starting to Believe that there is no shot ODB lasts til 22

          • anon

            Because he’s desean?

          • GEAGLE

            Because I think Chip believe in his ability to develop talent, and that there are simply too many WRs with a higher ceiling for Chip to take Brandin in round 1…there are like 7 WR prospects who won’t be picked in the top 20 to have potential to develop into chips definition of Elite WR…there are 3 types of Quality WRs(and Chip talked about this)
            1) Big Body WRs with great Size and average speed (Cooper)
            2) average/below average size with great speed(Maclin to Desean types)
            3) “those WRs who have the size and speed combo are the elite ones”-Chip Kelly (Calvin,Josh Gordon,Jeffries)
            …..
            You can get really good players that fit the mold of 1 or 2…but why would we settle for that, when there are a handful of prospects available to us who could be developed into 3?

            Keep in mind, that everyone talks about how we need superstars. We need playmakers, but by now it should be obvious that we won’t be adding any 40million dollar free agents any time soon…if we want those game breakers, we will have to draft and develop them…the GAMEBREAKERS with little bust risk, they come off the board in the top 12 like Mike Evans..people can’t wait to list the flaws of A-Rob,KB,Moncreif but we should be THANKFUL for those flaws, because without a flaw or two, those kids would be top 12 picks that we have no shot at drafting…

            Route Running. Body catches! Hands, these things can be corrected and improved…But you simply Can’t develop Moncreifs 6’2, 220lbs, 4.4’flat, 3rd highest Vertical leap out of WRs at the combine, top rated broad jump, third fastest….think of All the smaller, blazing fast WR prospects that ran at the combine…how did this 220lb monster tie for the 3rd fastest? You can’t teach what he has you can’t develop it….if the Charecter and work ethic is there, we gotta get him…I believe In our coaches ability to develop young players, so why wouldn’t I want us to swing for the fences and get them ELITE upside for them to mold?

          • paul from nc

            Can we get any players for the D?

          • GEAGLE

            Dude, I don’t don’t even like Offense…if it was up to me, I would draft 6 defenders

          • oreofestar

            I am a huge defense guy but after Jackson I need some offense I need more weapons and it sucks to say it and that is the worst part about him leaving, now I can not go crazy D

          • oreofestar

            Well to be honest there is a chance for Beckham and look at it this way, how many wrs could possibly go before us and if you think 4-5 wrs go before 22 that just pushes other guys down, I think Cooks or Beckham will make it and I would not sleep on us drafting either and then the Jets are interested in Benjamin(which s good cuz I do not want him) and they need a corner so who says they will even draft Cooks

          • GEAGLE

            If ODB is on the board at 22, I could see us drafting him(he is that good and versatile), tho I’m having serious doubts about him lasting to 22….but if I’m being honest, i would be really surprised to hear the eagles call Brandins name at 22. I really like that kid, I won’t be the least bit mad to see us draft him, because he is a personal favorite, but id be pretty damn surprised if I see us draft him at 22(that’s just me being honest)

          • oreofestar

            I would not be surprised, Chip does whatever the hell he wants :P I seriously think our first 2 picks will be OLB and WR in some order

  • peteike

    already the dog fighting, checkered past articles coming out for Vick in NY. Just the beginning.

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      They’ve been out for a week or two already. It’s unbelievable what people will write for clicks. What’s worse is when it pollutes your FB news feed with these so-called disgusted animal lovers who, while reading the very article, are sinking their fat faces into juicy burgers or chicken sandwiches while wearing their Uggs. I hate those people. Passionately.

      • Jeff Asay

        Idk. Unless you’re a vegan or vegetarian, I don’t see equating animal abuse with eating a burger.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Ever seen a video about the treatment of the cows/chicken/pigs you eat, or the sheep used for Uggs?

          • Jeff Asay

            Spoken like a rank and file member of PETA. Look, I know how the factory farms work which is why we purchase as much of our stuff from farms or buy organic. But if you eat meat, it’s not the same as electrocuting a dog. Sorry, there are animals that are considered family and animals that are considered sustenance.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Far from a PETA member, here. I love wings, steak, and bacon far too much, and they rarely come from local farms (usually not cost effective)… I understand there is a difference between animals for pets and animals for sustenance, but distinguishing purpose doesn’t justify treatment. That said, Vick’s dogs weren’t bred and raised to be your family’s dogs. How they handled killing them was wrong, no doubt. That doesn’t justify people selectively applying the claims of injustice about Vick’s treatment of dogs bred to attack and kill when they guzzle down factory farm meats, wearing their Uggs (which aren’t farmed for sustenance, mind you). At least Vick served time for what he did. I get your point, but, again, distinguising purpose doesn’t make any of it okay.

          • OldDocRoss

            Couldn’t agree more with all of this.

            I pretty much hate PETA. I kill animals all the time. Spiders, flies, ants? Those guys have got it coming I say. I subsidise the killing of many more animals because steak, chicken and bacon are delicious. Also, duck’s pretty tasty. And venison. Screw you Bambi.

            OTOH, what Vick did was very clearly wrong and even if someone doesn’t *think* it was wrong it is the law of the land and he was rightly punished for it.

            He’s served his time now, seems to be a genuinely changed man and the sanctimonious nitwits who still feel it’s their place to hate him for past crimes are absolute morons if they can’t find a more appropriate target for their hate. Of course the thing about sanctimonious nitwits is that they’re….

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            They really are. And I get what Jeff’s saying to an extent, but let’s not act like Vick was breeding and raising Lassie to save you and your family from the trouble in this week’s episode. If what he did disgusts you and you want to be public about it, be consistent in the waiving of your Mutumbo finger. That’s all I’m trying to say.

          • OldDocRoss

            The easiest way I can sum up my feelings on the continued “You guys, Michael Vick was totally into dogfighting!” thing is….

            At this stage surely their complaint is with the American judicial system. That the time served by Michael Vick was not long enough. That the punishment for his crime should be longer. I disagree. Others would agree, but rather than make this point they continue to just attack Vick.

            When was the last time you read an opinion piece on Vick in the mainstream media where they author said “I believe his sentence was too lenient and here is what I plan to do to ensure future offenders receive greater punishment”?

            I’m guessing never. It’s almost like these people realise that when you boil it down to a rational debate they will lose, so instead they just play on the emotional.

            I don’t even know why I’m defending #7 right enough. He’s a Jet now. Eff that guy. Behold my rationality!

          • paul from nc

            Now showing at Burger King, Wendy’s and McDonalds.
            All other restaurants, next week.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Nice, I’ll get a #10 and two doublecheeseburgers to eat while I watch.

        • paul from nc

          But not any worse than equating animal abuse with wife beating and murder (humans, that is)

  • Andy124

    Ok, I admit it, this tweet from Evan Mathis nudged my concern-o-meter:

    http://instagram.com/p/mWFoiyHxAV/

    • oreofestar

      meh…he might just be a little pissed about not getting a new deal but he has no leverage and won’t hold out I wouldn’t worry

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      The ol’ signing bonus. I’m sure he’ll get a phone call about that.

    • GEAGLE

      I’m too Desean fatigued to even look at a Mathis problem right now. I am boycotting your link :)

      • Andy124

        Hmm, the pic is showing on this page for me. No need to follow link. Maybe refresh?

        • GEAGLE

          Refresh didn’t work..but I clicked on it, you suck Andy! Thanks for that….;) just kick me in the nuts while your at it

        • OldDocRoss

          I think it’s just Evan being Evan. Think this and the “one of these dudes….” tweet are just him fooling. The guys either side of him just got a raise. He’d like one, but I doubt he’s gonna die in a ditch over it.

          At least I hope not. If we lost Mathis I may have to go on a rant the like of which has not been seen since….about a week ago when that “Charlie Kelly” dude found out about DeSean being cut.

    • Jeff Asay

      Just think he’s messing around, entertaining the fans who follow him. Not concerned.

    • paul from nc

      This is not the team to make fun of. He may not see too many more of those Eagle checks

  • oreofestar

    Everyone says we should trade out of round 1, nah unless a team is giving up some nice mid round picks I would rather sit at 22, also hell if a Barr or Evans drops you can think about trading up plus Ealy, ODB, Pryor, Cooks,Dennard,Ebron etc. there are some guys that if you like you just take

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Evans drop? Have any extra of what you’re smokin’?

      • oreofestar

        -_- what are you saying in the draft anything could happen and when I say drop I don’t mean to 22 I am saying if he is lingering in that 13,14 area same with Barr

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          had to check

  • oreofestar

    DAMN I love Trent Murphy and I was skeptical about him just 3 days ago but the more I watch the more I like, my number 5 OLB and rising

    • GEAGLE

      Yeah I was pleasantly surprised with his ability to move backwards at the combine..if you are going to watch Stanford tape, might as well keep your other eye on the other big tall white dude on the edge, Josh Mauro…he has the length, size, tenacity, love for the game that I can see Chip wanting to work with! but he would be a 6th, 7th or Undrafted pick…but if you are gonna watch mUrphy, might as well watch Mauro while you are at it.,.pay a little attention to Ed Reynolds just in case he falls, but I doubt he falls far enough to warrant being an eagle

      • oreofestar

        Yeah I have seen Reynolds but he could be a 2nd round pick which is waaay too high for me

        • GEAGLE

          Same,,,reminds me too much of Nate lol…then again, if you really wanna see his upside you have to watch his Junior tape…Reynolds is like Roby,Exum,Lee in that they tore it up two seasons ago, and struggled this past year instead of Bulding on their big year.,.atleast Lee and Exum were hampered by injuries!!!I can’t recall Roby and Reynolds having serious injuries this past year contributing to the dip in production

          • oreofestar

            me like Exum wonder how much he will fall, we are trading out of 86 I hope

          • GEAGLE

            No clue..my wet dream is getting him in the 5th….

            Why do you want to trade out of 86? That’s our last pick in the top 100. At 86, you can get a similar,talent that you get at like #43 during a normal year….heck. I like the players that will go in round 3 more than I like the players that will go from like 22-30..all the players I want are major reaches at 22…I’d try and stock up on second and 3rd round picks…then maybe trade out of round 4, so we can pick like 3 times in round 5…

          • oreofestar

            Here is my thing I like a lot of guys in round 4-5 that may be considered reaches at 86 I know it sound crazy but I would trade down 30 – 40 spots form 86 and get an extra 5 and 6

          • oreofestar

            I said it yesterday I would prefer 1,2,4,4,5,5,6,7 to 1,2,3,4,5,7

          • oreofestar

            even if it means waiting 60 spots between picks

          • GEAGLE

            I feel u, cuz I like so many guys 40-60 more then I like the guys at 22, so I get what you are saying

      • ODBorBustAllDay

        If we’re talking white guys, I like Bullough from Michigan St. to replace Ryans in a year. Not much in the way of versatility, just a tackling machine.

        I hope we don’t fall into the trap of the Reid Era by drafting too many “lighter/faster” defenders thinking we’ll be playing primarily pass defense with a lead all the time. Versatility is great, but there’s something to be said for lining up and punching people in the mouth. Hopefully the final drive of the year haunts them like it haunts me………I’ll be at a restaurant in my dreams, and Mark freaking Ingram will come out of nowhere and bulldoze the table, my wife and kids, the waiter…. It’s sick really

        • oreofestar

          Bullough hmmmm… I need to see more I have seen little of him I watched some Mich St. tape like a little but it was for Dennard and Bullough did not really jump out

  • oreofestar

    Somebody said we should trade our 6th this year, BG, and our 2nd next year to move up to number 10, I think that is a very optimistic trade

    • GEAGLE

      No…I said trade BG for a 6th and trade of 2015 2nd round pick, for #77th pick of this draft

      • oreofestar

        No I was not talking about here someone was talking to me at school

  • botto

    what about this mathews guy? he looks promising yes?WR

    • oreofestar

      Oh hell yeah one of my top 5 guys I love him but I have doubts he makes it to 54

    • OregonDucker

      Yeah, he’s related to Jerry Rice (either Dad or he are cousins). Mathews has the YAC ability and hands that might attract Chip. He’s a winner.

      • oreofestar

        Yeah I think they are cousins, also I love Matthews a character guy good size, good hands, route running could use a bit of work but that can be fixed and he s a very willing blocker

  • Bobby

    I like what chips doing. Djax must have been a huge headache, really really bad employee or both to be released. Djax was a very versatile player in the way he could line up in various positions and chip covets that. Not to mention his special team contributions, few and far between but still. I don’t see the birds offense missing a beat this season. Were a run first team now which relies heavily on miss matches. Especially at TE and from the backs coming out of the back field. Chip wants team guys not me guys and wideouts that can block. Desean isn’t going to take over a game. Hes good for a home run or two every other game. Unfortunately mostly in games that didn’t have much riding on them. Djax sure did know how to disappear in games though. And although he likes to fly from the east coast to west coast he sure is vertically challenged beyond the line of scrimmage. Always has played scared since that Robinson hit.

    • George

      Agree. Esp with the tight ends. I think we will see ALOT of 12 personel this year

  • oreofestar

    I go to school in Philly why are there so many Giants fans lol all they want is weapons Ebron,, Evans, Watkins just weapons

    • ODBorBustAllDay

      TE maybe, but I think they might like their WRs, Cruz and Randle, Jernigan, resigned Manningham, and I hope they do. Randle is actually decent, but the rest. …..dreck

  • oreofestar

    Aaaah I hope Barr becomes the Shariff FLOYD of this class

    • Sauce

      Quite possible, name 2 team that run a 3-4 defense and need a starting pass rusher that draft before us??

      The only one that scares me is Arizona

  • Will

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 11 (TENN): Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (A)
    Round 2 Pick 22: Kyle Van Noy, OLB, Brigham Young (A)
    Round 3 Pick 22: Craig Loston, SS, LSU (B-)
    Round 4 Pick 22: Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee (A)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Russell Bodine, OG/C, North Carolina (C)
    Round 7 Pick 22: Cairo Santos, K, Tulane (B)

    Traded 2014 & 2015 1st RD picks to move up..offer same trade starting with the 7th pick…was able to jump to 11th overall to grab Mike Evans…then coulda traded back but offers were not realistic compared to real world to generous…So I took BPA at positions of need with remaining 5 picks…