What They’re Saying About the Eagles

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Here’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles and DeSean Jackson.

According to multiple reports, Jackson is done meeting with officials at the Redskins’ facility. Finalizing a deal could be next:

As Tim reported this morning, Washington is still the heavy favorite to land Jackson.

Gregg Doyel of CBSSports.com writes that it shouldn't be difficult for Jackson to prove the Eagles wrong:

What has happened to Jackson has to have been hard -- to have your name dragged through the mud and even blood of gang-related murder -- and then to have been dumped in return for absolutely nothing.

But what happens next ought to be simple. Sign somewhere. Show up when everyone else shows up. Work as hard as everyone else works. Go home. Stay out of trouble. Wake up the next day and do it again. And again. And again. Sticking it to the Eagles ought to be the easiest thing DeSean Jackson has ever done.

Mike Tanier of Sports On Earth offers his take:

Law enforcement experts know a lot about gangs. The law enforcement expert who provided the meat of last Friday’s NJ.com story said that there is no evidence that Jackson is in a gang. It is right there in paragraph 25 – paragraph 25! – after the detective in question talks about all of the people Jackson is connected to who are connected to murders.

Connections to connections: are we linking DeSean Jackson to the Crips or Kevin Bacon? When the primary police source for a story tells you he has no hard evidence, you are either dealing with a bad cop or a bad story. Given a choice to cast aspersions at a peace officer or some sensationalism-minded colleagues, I pick whoever buries “no hard evidence” in paragraph 25 of an article about a person’s gang connections. And I would be harder on the crew at NJ.com if I thought most people talking about Jackson this weekend had bothered to read their story.

Louis Riddick of ESPN.com says interested teams need to have a plan for Jackson:

Obviously there's no secret about DeSean [and his issues] and I'm not talking about the gang nonsense. I don't know anything about that. But I've seen what happens when you just look at the player and how you'll use him on the field and then think about his off-field [behavior], 'We'll just figure it out.' It's such a recipe for disaster I can't begin to tell you how ridiculous that is. You can't do that here. You have to make sure you know what you're doing."

Excellent All-22 breakdown here from Matt Bowen of Bleacher Report:

Looking at Jackson's overall skill set, I do believe his speed, route-running and matchup ability will continue to impact defensive game plans next season.

Even though the Eagles did generate specific matchups for Jackson to exploit, from my perspective as a former NFL defensive back, there is no substitute for big-play ability. That impacts how you prepare, play and adjust on Sundays versus a receiver such as Jackson, who can flip the field on multiple route schemes.

Bill Barnwell of Grantland has questions and answers on Jackson:

Is that really new behavior from Jackson, though? Has he really acted any differently than he has in the past? That sort of attitude has been the book on Jackson for most of his career, and it didn’t stop the Eagles from re-signing him two years ago, nor did it stop him from making the Pro Bowl this past season. All those adjectives might very well be true, but I’m still waiting to hear a play-by-play guy shout, “The me-first diva hauls in the pass for a touchdown!” Jackson’s never been my favorite player, but he was good enough to overcome whatever personality flaws he had a year ago, which is why you didn’t hear anybody in Philadelphia complaining last season.

Jason Cole of Bleacher Report notes that Jackson received a death threat in 2012:

And those reasons don't include one other. Several sources close to Jackson and the Eagles say he received a death threat in 2012 from a "crackpot fan.'' Unfortunately, those same sources say that such a threat is not unusual. But what is concerning about this one was Jackson's reaction to it.

"It freaked him out,'' a former associate of Jackson's said. "He thought it was gang (related) at first.''

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  • Maggie

    Bottom line. DeSean Jackson is gone. No longer an Eagle. Doesn’t matter how many passes he caught or how he sulked through a season or if he was freaked out. He’s gone. Dwelling on the past incessantly is counter-productive. Could we pleeeease talk about something or somebody else now? .

    • Brandon

      No

    • Amar (India)

      We’re not letting the Eagles FO get away with it so easy…

      • Maggie

        I hope you don’t seriously think anybody in the FO actually READS this stuff! ;~)

        • Andy124

          I always just assumed Howie logged on daily to read my latest nuggets of wisdom. Don’t take that away from me Mags.

          • Guest

            He used to. Then you guys scared Dutch away. No reason for Howie to come back now.

          • Johnny Domino

            I am sure every guest vote I get is either Howie or Jeff.

          • Johnny Domino

            See!

        • Eagles1018

          Hahaha

      • PhillyMart

        This is not the Eagles FO getting away with something. This was Jackson and his agents plan all along. Remember Jackson said ‘my agent has a plan for the offseason.’ Remember Jackson has new agent who did not negotiate the existing contract. The key to everything is that the new agent needs to get paid in all of this. A trade doesn’t do that. Staying with the Eagles doesn’t do that. Jackson already said he wouldn’t renegotiate if traded. Why? Because the only way Jackson get’s more guaranteed money AND his agent gets paid is if the Eagles release him and they can negotiate with whomever for whatever. That’s the only scenario in which Jackson and his agent are happy. This whole was orchestrated by Jackson and his new agent. Jackson knew all along that the plan was to leave the Eagles.

        • http://www.jhkayejr.com Joseph Kaye

          Yeah, I kinda buy this.

          • PhillyMart

            Jackson fired Rosenhaus who is the agent who got him the 5 year (2 yrs really) contract with the Eagles. Jackson fired Rosenhaus (maybe because Rosenhaus had no incentive to get Jackson a new deal I’m guessing) and hired a new one. How does the new one get paid unless Jackson gets a new contract? This is all about the money. And all about his new agent getting paid.

        • Robin Wallace

          This what I thought all along. His agent, if I’m not mistaken is Drew Rosenhaus (TO’s old agent) who is know for this. If all did not go well I bet he was planning a holdout. Not to mention the alleged 400k his agent was suppose to of lent him. How else was he going to get paid unless he got a new contract with guaranteed money.

          • ochospantalones

            DeSean fired Drew Rosenhaus. The grievance for the $400K came after that. Don’t you think if DeSean was threatening a hold out we would have heard about it? We have heard every other negative thing imaginable, you think they’re holding that back?

          • Robin Wallace

            I was speculating it may have been in his future plans holding out this year for a new contract. It’s no telling what may come out.

          • ochospantalones

            Why would you cut a guy because he might maybe possibly in the future think about holding out? When he has given zero indication that he plans to hold out? And when there is zero time pressure, because they can cut him in August with identical money and cap consequences?

            Maybe we’ll learn more, but I doubt it. It seems like once you get to “he was arrested 5 years ago for driving while black” and “there was a crime near a building we think a family member rents space in which we think DeSean has been to at some point in his life” you’ve pretty much scraped the bottom of the barrel on the oppo dump.

          • Kaedwon

            At some point, you have to acknowledge the obvious fact that the Eagles know a lot more about DJax than the typical fan ever will. This isn’t unique to the Eagles; ask Pats beat reporters how transparent Belichick is.

          • ochospantalones

            I do not need to acknowledge this, at least as far as off the field matters go. They certainly know more about his practice habits, his attitude in the locker room, and how he was in meetings than we do. But however bad that stuff was, it didn’t stop DeSean from making the Pro Bowl last year or stop the Eagles from winning 10 games. It’s the coaches job to get the most out of talented players. If you’re going to cut your second best offensive player in his prime there better be something seriously wrong with him, and there is no evidence of that at all.

            I think it is absolutely wrong and highly unfair to the player to assume the team must know something terrible about his off the field activities that we don’t. How would you like to lose your job based on rumors and innuendo about what you do away from work? Until someone comes up with more than that atrociously weak NJ dot com story, I’m not buying any of it.

    • planetx1971

      Absolutely Maggie, for the most part (obviously not this one), I’m now personally just skipping over any articles about Jackson. We as fans have to just move forward now. Regardless of the fact I was praying it didn’t happen, it did. He’s gone. Whatever the reasons were, just or unjust, it makes absolutely NO difference at this point. So for be, so long DeSean, it’s been real. Onward Eagles nation!! :)

    • JofreyRice

      but then you wouldn’t be able to do your schtick of complaining about what people are writing about, while adding nothing new, noteworthy, or interesting yourself, right?

      They released a pro bowl wide receiver in his prime for no obvious reason. It’s going to be a bit of a “hot topic”.

      • Andy124

        Psh. That’s so last week.

      • Guest

        Has she ever added anything besides giving Geagles someone to roast?

        • Andy124

          Yes

  • peteike

    in a situation like this, do GMs talk to agents and discuss offers over the phone while the Skins are trying to get him to sign a deal? So he can see multiple options at once, or does that usually have to happen on visits I wonder.

    • Kev_H

      I don’t think there are many suitors, though the media dutifully made it look like there was. From what I can tell, the Jets, Raiders, and Chiefs are non-starters and they were the ones writers were writing about. “Mystery teams”? Seattle maybe? The biggest problem is that I don’t think anyone is willing to pay him $10 million per year and his past suggests he’ll cause trouble if he isn’t paid what he thinks he is worth (though I think that 2011 and today is an apples-to-oranges comparison, I think front offices think that way).

      Dan Snyder’s pretty dumb and might give him $12 million per year. Washington does seem to be one of the last stops at the NFL cash machine for many players over the years (Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, Jeff George, Donovan McNabb, Albert Haynesworth…). To me, it is an indicator of the type of player Jackson is. He could go to a team that helps him become a better player, increase his value, extend his career and increase his earnings, or he can head right on down to the NFL’s biggest chump and cash in before fading away.

      • peteike

        at this point it seems to be skins and raiders with SF as an outlier. Although doubt SF is really in it, they only want him on the cheap it sounds like. Actually, Oak is the key destination for over the hill players making that last money grab. Could easily see them trying to outbid Snyder so this works in Deseans favor. Id prefer RG3 than Shaub all day.

  • ochospantalones

    I assume they’re saying the Eagles current group of wide receivers sucks.

    • Glenn

      Suck is a strong word. I think the group overall is below average. And that would be fair. And we cannot forget that Maclin had not one, but two, ACL repairs to the same knee. I cannot think of too many examples of WR’s or RB’s that retained their explosiveness after that. I think that if you are going to let Jackson go, which I do not agree with, at the very least they can shore up the position with their cap space. This can be done cheaply at this stage of the game. I am sure they draft a WR high, but rookie WR’s picked where the Eagles pick cannot be counted on in their first year.

      • ochospantalones

        For me noticeably below-average = “sucks”, but your mileage may vary. I think we’re more or less in the same place on the actual analysis, though I personally doubt their ability to add useful depth through free agency at this stage of the off-season. Who is out there that you would want? Sidney Rice? Right now we have no NFL WRs beyond the top two (I have no faith in Arrelious Benn). This is part of why I find waiting until the end of March to cut DeSean so frustrating.

        • Glenn

          You mean you do not think Damaris Johnson can be plugged in DeSean’s spot if Maclin doesn’t recover, and come back 100%, from his serious injury? You mean you are not convinced Ifenayi Momah will become the second coming of Terrell Owens? LOL. Yes, cutting DeSean like this without compensation is frustrating. Have to believe that there was a chance to get something for him either during or after the draft. Especially WR needy teams that are looking for a significant upgrade, and may not be happy with the results of the draft. But, alas, there are many posters here who think this is acceptable and justified behavior for the Eagles between swigs of Kool Aid.

    • cliff henny

      incomplete for me. add an Evans and Landry, thing turn around quickly. have to believe Kelly/Howie have a plan, but why didn’t they get a pick?!

      • ochospantalones

        I don’t expect any wide receiver they get in the draft to be a big contributor in the first year. There are exceptions, like Keenan Allen last year, but most good wide receivers need at least one season before they break out. So while those guys may end up being excellent long term players, I would be shocked if they are as good as DeSean in 2014. Which is why I hate this move: there was no reason they couldn’t keep DeSean for this year and draft whoever they want.

        They didn’t get a pick because they destroyed his market value by making it so obvious they wanted him gone that it became impossible to bring him back. If they had moved quickly early in the off-season, maybe they could have gotten something for him.

        • cliff henny

          one big advantage to Kelly’s offense is it’ll be a lot more similar to what these guys ran in college. 3 vs 2 wr screen to evans is pretty simply. also, Kelly offense doesn’t seem to have the learning curve on qbs, which is easiest to use as examples, vs other types of offenses. so, yeah, agree, relying on rookies makes me semi-nervous, have some hopes it wont be too bad.
          .
          yea, guess no one wanted to negotiate off a 10m starting point with jax, who, had little reason to drop his price. seems like 1 yr too early for me, but have to hope Kelly knows what he’s doing.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        Just watched ODBs kickoff catch highlights for sh*ts and gigs. What a sight.

    • JofreyRice

      The WRs look pretty shaky, as it stands. Maclin’s never quite been the guy he was supposed to be, and is coming back from a serious injury. I hope Cooper’s not a mirage. After that…Arrelious Benn? Jeff Maehl? Yeesh.

      They are coming out of this draft with at least 1 WR, tho, and maybe even 2. Like Cliff said, incomplete, for now.

  • Kevin

    Note to Gregg Doyle – If Jackson was doing your ‘easy’ thing, he would still be in Eagles Green. Chip doesn’t care if you’re a diva, a star, etc., Grab your lunch pail and work your butt off day in and day out.

  • Glenn Articolo

    Let’s talk about how the Eagles are going to use their cap space. How about a kicker to replace the ridiculous Henery? How about a veteran WR still unsigned that provides depth? We are really counting on the health and recovery of Maclin quite a bit. How about signing someone to help the pass rush? The team looks WR needy, a position that is not ideal heading to the draft.

    • JosephR2225

      Top Free Agent Wide Receivers: Desean Jackson, Miles Austin, Santonio Holmes, Sidney Rice, Jacoby Ford, Jason Avant
      Which one of these guys are you spending money on?

      • peteike

        Id take a flier on Miles if he came cheap enough, or a 1 yr deal. He may do okay in this system, probably decent blocker although I have no clue

        • JosephR2225

          Well he’s 29 years old, missed significant time in two of the last three seasons, and is constantly dinged up with hamstrings. Last year he had 24 catches, 10 of which came in Week 1. I think he’s cooked. Maybe, maybe for a very very minimal deal, but you can’t sign Austin and say you’re no longer receiver-needy heading into the draft.

          • peteike

            ya the injuries, esp hamstring are not a good sign

          • JofreyRice

            There is some scientific evidence that pulling a hammy and rehabbing it to return in-season produces a lot of scar tissue that lingers long after the hamstring has healed.

          • cliff henny

            or cowboys have the worst sports science training staff in league. never seen a team battle hammy’s like those idiots, especially last 2 or 3 yrs. something is wrong down there

    • PaoliBulldog

      There wasn’t a FA receiver on the market whose deal I wanted the Eagles to match. Nor are there any FA kickers who are better than Henery.

      It’s no secret the Fins want to move Marshall but he somehow doesn’t seem like a CK type.

  • KobraKai7474

    Greg Doyle is exactly right… and I have very serious doubts that Jackson can accomplish it. If he was smart… and his agent was smart… he would sign with a team that has a more hands-off live and let live attitude about its players because he WILL chafe under a disciplinarian coach. …unfortunately, teams like the 70s-era Raiders don’t really exist anymore.

  • addicted2mula

    Desean who?

  • Tom w

    Guess djax to the skins wasn’t such a done deal as people thought. Raiders backing out as well. If Snyder is smart he realizes djax had no market and low balls him. Maybe that’s what he already did w little guaranteed money and djax and segal are regrouping. Skins gonna need atleast 4 mil to sign draft picks. Dunno how they offer him that great of a deal

    • KobraKai7474

      I agree. I will leave it to others who are smarter than me to determine what Jackson’s actual market value should be, but the simple fact was that, when he was signed for $10 million per year, nobody in the league wanted to touch him. If they weren’t willing to take him for $10 million a week ago, why would they pay it now when even more dirt has come out on him?

    • Adam G

      Only 1 mil of cap space needed for their picks.

      • Tom W

        How do you figure? is that in the cba? the first round pick and second pick get more guaranteed than one million alone.

        • oreofestar

          the Redskins actually need about 3.5mil

          • Adam G

            They need 1 mil of space. Bc the drafted guys displace other guys. Here is the link:

            http://overthecap.com/2014-rookie-pool-estimates.php

            And they don’t have a 1st round pick.

          • oreofestar

            “And they don’t have a 1st round pick” ya don’t say….

          • Adam G

            Well Tom W mentioned first round pick guaranteed money. Maybe they will restructure Trent Williams, but I don’t know how they would sign desean with only 5 mil in space to do so.

          • Will

            DeSean might be in for a pay cut…

          • Adam G

            He is def in for a pay cut, I just don’t understand how you can structure this contract with only 5 mil in space. Maybe he would take a small signing bonus and high 2015 guaranteed salary, but that’s not very team friendly.

          • oreofestar

            BIG BONUS:)

          • Adam G

            I’m thinking a 3 year 25 mil contract with a 10mil signing bonus. Ends up really being a 2 yr/15 mil deal. Something like that.

  • PhillyMart

    It continues to amaze me how most of the conversation regarding Jackson misses the real point. Jackson signed a deal that everyone at the time recognized as a 2 year deal. 2 years are over and there is no more guaranteed money. Jackson fired the agent who got him the deal and hired a new agent who makes no money at all if Jackson stays put. Jackson said two things after the season: he’d like more guaranteed money and my agent has a plan.
    There was only one way for Jackson to get more guaranteed money AND his agent get paid and that was if Jackson became, in effect, a free agent. A trade wouldn’t do it and staying with the Eagles wouldn’t do it. Jackson and his agent got exactly what they wanted and that was to be able to negotiate a new contract at the highest price possible with any team they wanted. Jackson’s agent we can guess made it known to any teams inclined to trade for him that it wasn’t what they wanted. Jackson’s agent we can imagine made it clear to the Eagles that his client would not be happy (read: won’t perform) without a new deal.
    So given the choice between trying to keep a player at 10M who isn’t happy (and has a history of not performing when he isn’t happy) and releasing the player as the player wishes the Eagles wisely chose to release him. Anything else–the gang stuff, etc.–is smoke and has nothing to do with Jackson and his agent implementing the plan they had all along. Jackson got what he wanted.
    This played out exactly according to Jackson’s plan. It was Jackson who knew long ago that he was going to part ways with the Eagles. Putting the blame on the Eagles completely misses the point.

    • peteike

      great point, hadnt ever heard that. I was one of the ones dumb enough to buy into the article. I just couldnt understand how they couldnt get at least a low end pick for him.

      • PhillyMart

        Picked up most of the points from an excellent post a few days ago by someone else. Got lost in the anguish and anger being expressed. This was about Jackson’s plan for his future all along.

    • Glenn

      It is possible the Eagles could have renegotiated his contract. There was no guaranteed money in the current deal. And the Eagles would have had a large cap figure for this year. With renegotiation, DeSean would have had guaranteed money, in return for maybe a lower base salary, and lower cap hit for 2014. This could have been a good will gesture on the Eagles part in reward for DeSean’s season. It is not surprising that DeSean was unhappy after the season given his contract situation. If he got hurt in the offseason, OTA’s, camp, or preseason, he isn’t protected. It could have been a win/win for both sides, even if it meant having DeSean for only one more year, until the guy they draft was ready to take over as the #1.

      • PhillyMart

        Jackson said he wouldn’t take a pay cut. So renegotiating at a lower base salary is not an option. Eagles either give him his entire salary AND guarantee a good portion of the last three years to make Jackson happy or release him? They made the choice Jackson and his agent expected. Now Jackson can negotiate freely and maximize his money and guarantee AND his agent can get paid (his agent getting paid is the key to everything). If the Eagles simply keep Jackson hoping he doesn’t become unhappy and underperform, Jackson’s agent gets nothing. That just wasn’t going to happen. It had to play out this way. Eagles knew it and decided wisely to move on.

        • Glenn

          I think you are right for the most part. But I think the Eagles could have renegotiated, as a good faith effort and even kept the base salary the same, but gave him some guaranteed money upfront to give him piece of mind. And a sign of appreciation for a very good year. I do not blame Jackson for being upset, that none of his money was guaranteed, heading to the offseason. Jackson would have been happy, and more motivated, and the Eagles certainly have the money. Even if it meant keeping him for only one more year. It would have increased the chances for a successful year in 2014. Even if Jackson is not in the Eagles long term plans. But, obviously, the Eagles were unwilling to budge from the contract, and reached an impasse. Let’s hope the Eagles at least use the extra cap space to improve the roster.

    • ochospantalones

      This is not convincing at all. For one, it totally misrepresents DeSean’s contract. When he signed the new deal, the point was it allowed the EAGLES an out after two years, not that it gave DeSean Jackson an out after two years. There are contracts in the NFL written to explode after two years, and the way you can identify them is they either include a massive roster bonus at the start of the 3rd league year or a wildly inflated base salary. DeSean’s deal does not include either of those (arguably DeSean was scheduled to be slightly overpaid in 2014, but it wasn’t by a huge amount).

      Further, there is just no evidence DeSean actively campaigned for a new deal, or to be cut. He answered some questions from a reporter after the season, and hasn’t been heard from since. Please direct me to the reports of him threatening to hold out if they didn’t re-negotiate his contract. If that had happened, don’t you think the Eagles would have leaked it by now?

      • JosephR2225

        Also difficult to imagine Howie would let himself be quite so publicly bullied into releasing a star player.

        • ochospantalones

          Also difficult to imagine that DeSean’s agent’s master plan was to get his client released in late March after most teams have already spent their free agency budget.

        • Maggie

          Seriously doubt Howie was bullied. From most accounts the team was probably not planning on keeping Jackson anyway. Think they just wanted to be done with the whole mess, have their financial situation and draft board in as good a shape as possible, as soon as possible.

      • PhillyMart

        Exactly. The only way Jackson’s new agent gets paid is IF the Eagles exercise their option to release him. There is the incentive for Jackson and his agent to make sure the Eagles do that. Jackson has already proven his willingness to underperform if he is unhappy–admitted it. The Eagles could have forced him to stay put but then Jackson’s agent doesn’t get paid and Jackson gets no more guaranteed money. If his agent has a plan as Jackson stated how does he get paid otherwise. They had to force the Eagles to exercise their option to release him. Nothing else makes sense.
        Jackson didn’t need to say anything more than “I’d like more guaranteed money’ and “my agent has a plan.” Then we began to hear all sorts of things from Jackson’s camp while the eagles were quiet. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see what Jackson and his agent want.
        Eagles then have a choice: do we pay our highest paid player knowing that he and his agent aren’t happy and knowing that Jackson had once before underperformed or do we release him and move on. Its as simple as that. Nothing sinister or complicated.
        This was Jackson’s plan all along.

        • ochospantalones

          “Then we began to hear all sorts of things from Jackson’s camp while the eagles were quiet.”

          Did you live through the same Eagles off-season I did? When did this happen? The leaks were almost entirely from the Eagles side! Remember “one-false move”? The fight with the receivers’ coach? Stuff about his work ethic? How he has a bad attitude? Kelly doesn’t think he’s big enough? And finally the gang nonsense?

          DeSean has been out in L.A., I haven’t heard anything at all from his side from between the day after the season up to his taking to Instagram last week.

          And seriously, if his agent’s master plan was to get his client cut in the last week of March he needs to fire his agent. If this was really a brilliantly executed plan wouldn’t DeSean have been a free agent when teams still had money to spend?

    • botto

      this makes perfect sense to me.
      the agent has to get paid somehow and this will do it.

  • GEAGLE

    Bleacher report is like one step up from Dutch smh

    • Hiral(GM)

      How did you like that report from mike mayock? I’m assuming you knower more than him. Told you clown we need DBs not WRs. We will get one in the 2nd maybe. Definitely in the 3rd. Watch out for dri archer. ;) but let me guess your sitting in the GM room with howie and chip. Please just shut your pie hole and sit back and let me school you on football clown. This isn’t madden or fantasy football. Anyone who watches eagles football know we need defense. You don’t get eagles game in Idaho? We are getting DBs and DTs 2 of out of the first 3 rounds. Especially the first round clown. One more thing if we do take Pyor from Louisville do understand they have a person called a coach. Which means it can teach him better ball skills idiot. Yeah he is good in the box against the run but chip could help him with coverage. Just ask Nate Allen clown. I’m done

      • George

        Its not who we NEED, but who’s the BEST. Need me to explain it again, Andy?

  • Rambler

    In other earth shattering news… New guy Chris Maragos was assigned jersey #42. Which puts some finality on the end of the Kurt Coleman era. Good luck to you, fellow Buckeye. I always appreciated the effort, even though you really did not have the talent to match.

    • cliff henny

      yup, good luck Coleman. I’ve matured in my 43rd yr, think all my Coleman hate was misplaced. it’s in it’s proper place now, 100% on NNo-D.

    • Kaedwon

      Coleman was probably the worst starting safety in the league, when he was starting, which was all too often. Marginal speed, poor tackling angles and a propensity for taking out his own teammates rather than the opponent was a constant refrain. He can play special teams, but he is simply awful as at the safety position. Good riddance.

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    Rooting for the Brownies to land Jaccson. The tweet is from noon, but they were apparently pushing hard and have the cap space to pay him.

    • JosephR2225

      I wish I could be on the sideline after the third down play when Gordon and Desean were wide open but Johnny Football scrambled and was sacked for a 26 yard loss. Would be priceless.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        DeSean then flips out on Manziel and the WR coach.

        • Javi Echie

          Don’t sleep on Johnny Football if that happened I can see him slapping djax if that happened lol

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            And then running away

          • Javi Echie

            Or they both run away from eachother

      • peteike

        you mean Hoyer? if Browns are smart they dont draft a QB with that top pick. They are finally doing some decent things imo

  • Will

    I think CK after the loss to New Orleans in the play offs decided he needed a change at WR. A different body type….a WR who could get off man coverage…and is a red zone threat…DJax is a special talent but I do believe not what CK envisions in his plan… the draft is right around the corner…

  • Andy124

    It’s all good. I have all the confidence in the world in Macclin and Ccooper.

    • cliff henny

      no choice, have to pick Beccham

      • Andy124

        You make a strong ccase. But I could see Chip still loving Marccise Lee. Monccrief seems like a likely target later on as well.

        • OldDocRoss

          Just as long as we all agree there’ll be no effin Pinccston.

  • Brian

    Desean Jackson ‏@DeseanJackson10 3m
    Never settle 4 less !! Don’t jus Give up !!

    • Will

      Quitters never win and winner’s never quit…Good luck DeSean hope you land on your feet…

  • Tom W

    All these people telling us eagles gotta go defense in the first round and they can’t even point to one specific player at 22 we should take …. Eagles don’t draft positions, they draft players … they have them rated by round and numerically within each round.

    Too blindly say we should take the best corner or dtackle at 22 completely ignores how we drafted last year and Howie’s comments how we don’t take positional scarcity into account at each pick … they are drafting best player in comparison to the remaining players w need coming into play as a tiebreaker at best.

    Beyond that, chip and howie have specific measurables for each position and specific traits they want from each position … thus a road grader guard doesn’t fit, or a 6 1 olb, or a short armed d end or a 6 ft dtackle, or a 5 10 corner or a box safety who can’t cover or another 5 11 ilb or slow wrs. ain’t happenin.

    I would take clowney, mack, barr, gilbert at 22 no doubt. I would consider Kony Ealy. Don’t think either safety measures up and is worth the 22d pick and I don’t think its even close. Neither is making it to us anyway bc the safety class is shit. Don’t think Donald fits in the 3-4. And mosely has some red flags. More and more i think I pass on dee ford at 22 because of his average size and liabilities setting the edge and tackling.

    No other safety is worth 22. .. Tuitt has knee problems and bad tape, sheed is 24 and has bad tape. Jernigan is dropping like flies and doesn’t fit our scheme. Shazier is short and more suited for the 4-3 Will lb.

    So you left w Kony Ealy who if chip thinks can play olb I could live with at 22. Fuller at corner who I like in the second round but is basically a wasted pick this year bc our top 3 corners are spoken for and carroll is a good 4. Kid won’t even get on the field. Rookie corners struggle mightily on field. Or Give me odb or cooks who I can plug in and play day one as a wr3 and special teams ace returner.

    Ideally we trade down I guess is what I’m saying do address more positions and plan for the future and accumulate more picks.

    • Hiral (GM)

      Dude will you please kill it with at clown rhetoric nobody cares to hear that expect you and your seven other flunkies. We need DBs and DTs. But I guess mike mayock is a troll as well. Your telling me we are good with the DBs we have know? Do us all a favor and unplug your keyboard for a month or two. How many times do you need to hear the name Ha ha, fuller, and or even Calvin pyor. It’s amazing even after a guy like mayock says it you clowns Geagle, Tom W, Richard who cares, Wally who cares keep saying the same foolishness and talk about WR. You guys must not live in eagle country. Probably Dallas fans. Do us all a favor and you 7 dwarfs need to put on Freddie Mitchell jerseys. Then after you do that go 4th and long off the Betty Ross bridge dopes. ;) I’m done

      • Will

        We are revamping the Safety and WR’s group…Coop & Mac who is coming off major knee surgery…who on the roster goes in if either can’t play with 7 iffy WR’s behind those 2? Agree we need to improve on the Defensive side of the ball but our HC is very Offensive minded..will depend who is BPA…Brace yourself for a WR with first pick…first 2 picks last year went offense…then in the 3rd rd DT…

      • Tom w

        Go back to igglez blitz shah where everyone laughs at you for your joe Webb nonsense. …. Never heard anyone I thought was such a troll. You been here two days and added nothing.

      • Tom w

        Eagles don’t draft postions dope they draft players … Go read another mock draft from a national source that has no recognition what chip is actually going to do … Maybe you will have an original thought about the draft instead of regurgitating crap you read at nfl.com and think about anything beyond the first round where the draft is really won and teams are made. I’m on round 4-5 for the eagles while your still playing w cataldi and salpal and talking DBS in the first round. Keeping reading kiper dope

      • Tom w

        Hahaha shah your such a troll you had to change your name on here so everyone wouldn’t laugh you off the site like the dope you are over at igglez blitz.

  • John J. King

    Well, now we know all of the media thinks the Iggs are wrong just as all of the media knew last year that the Iggs would come in 5th place in the NFL East and Chip would quit because his stupid college boy game plans didn’t work in the Big NFL and Blah, blah blah.

    • UKEagle99

      Vegas had us down for dead last in the NFC East in pre season, Sheil & I exchanged Tweets over it. The whole of Vegas were wearing “Shit happens” T-Shirts after that!

      • John J. King

        LOL, I don’t know which I enjoyed more: them squirming and babbling after they changed their minds or the season itself. On second thought, it was the season.

  • JofreyRice

    I follow Louis Riddick on twitter and he essentially thinks anyone that signs anyone for more than a song is managing their enterprise irresponsibly. Guy wants to be a turtle in free agency. Judging from his tweets, he’d criticize a franchise for “overspending” if JJ Watt somehow hit FA and a team signed him to a fair market value deal.

  • UKEagle99

    I’m English but I think Emma Watson says it better…

  • anon

    Talk of Stevie Johnson getting released if Bills draft Evans — think we take a look at that. He’s good…

    EDIT: he’s ok…

    • RIP illa

      He’s unreliable, not that great at any one thing, and is a bigger or just as big of a pain as DJax.

    • Adam G

      I don’t know if i buy that because of his contract. His cap number is the same as the dead money.

      • RIP illa

        He’s been overdue to be cut for awhile now. And now that woods was drafted and emerged as a guy that can be depended on…it’s time for him to go if they get a guy like Evans.

        • Adam G

          Yeah, I hear that, but they won’t save any cap space and they just paid him a 1.75 mil roster bonus. Makes 0 sense to cut him.

          • RIP illa

            Yeah. Play doesn’t match the contract. Stupid that they signed him for a deal like that, but then again…that’s B-Lo. Even when he was having his best year he was still so unreliable and dropping balls and game winning TDs. Notice the plural. His dead money is the biggest this year. Yet if they draft Evans, I would think some WR is gonna have to go. Maybe TJ Grahm. fans have always been down on him, cuz of his way low production, but it’s only his 3rd year and he has flashed some potential. Goodwin is in his 2nd and a very scary return man. I think Easley is a quality depth guy who doesn’t get much of a chance. Oh well, who knows…as long as Johnson’s not in Philly.

          • oreofestar

            Yeah but character makes me think nah for Chip I would rather they keep him and let Evans slide more and if somehow he gets past NY all you need to do is get to 14

          • RIP illa

            Definitely character issues. He’s just a weird dude, personality wise and even on the field.

    • Joe L

      The Bills only save like 25,000 by cutting Johnson. No point.

  • Gil

    Eagles traded up from #24 to #13 to draft Brandon Graham….they gave San Fran two 3rd picks……so they may be able to trade up to draft Mike Evans.

    Maybe a 3rd round pick this year, and 2nd round pick next year…to draft Mike Evans……that does not sound bad for an All-Pro Evans for the next 10 years.

    • oreofestar

      Oh you know I would do it, now will the Eagles I am not sure but coming into the draft the 2 highest guys on the Eagles boards are probably Mike EVANS and Anthony Barr they are the perfect prototypes for what they want at 2 positions of need and if one is in that 10-15 range don’t be shocked if we snatch em

  • oreofestar

    Pipe dreams/possible trade up possibilities
    Khalil Mack
    Anthony Barr
    Jadeveon Clowney
    Sammy Watkins
    Mike Evans
    Justin Gilbert
    Haha Clinton-Dix (I would personally only draft him if he slid to 22)
    Eric Ebron*

    Realistic targets
    Kony Ealy
    Dee Ford
    Odell Beckham Jr.
    Brandin Cooks
    Marquis Lee
    Calvin Pryor
    Daqueze Dennard
    Kyle Fuller
    Eric Ebron*
    C.J Mosley
    Zach Martin

    Possible trade down targets
    Kelvin Benjamin
    Allen Robinsone
    Jordan MATTHEWS
    Ryan Shazier
    Deonne Bucannon
    Marcus Smith
    Xavier Su’a-filo
    Austin Sefarian – Jenkins
    Davante Adams

    Some other guys I di dnot even mention but these are most of the main ones

  • G_WallyHunter

    my twitter investigations indicate Desean didn’t get on his scheduled flight out of DC tonight.. well… looks like this effed up nightmare is about to become some effed up reality, Desean trottin around in that disgusting maroon, what number will he wear? hmmm.. Whatever, hopefully they throw him a 5 year 55 mil with 20 guaranteed, then the skins continue to suck and his true me-first traits surface again… best case ontario right?

    • bukester

      who are you calling a disgusting maroon?

      • G_WallyHunter

        Which team wears a disgusting maroon/red

  • Javi Echie

    And it’s official desean is a deadskin and now we have to see this lil a**hole twice a year

  • Robert Perri

    What I hate is that of course he will prove the Eagles wrong, but that doesn’t mean he would have acted the same way if they didn’t cut him so it is moot.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    I’m done with all the DeSean stuff. Time to move on and look forward to how this team can be made better between now & season opener.