Mayock: Forget WR, Eagles Should Draft ‘D’

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By all accounts, this year’s wide receiver class is loaded.

With DeSean Jackson gone, the Eagles will undoubtedly end up with at least one new pass-catcher in May’s draft. But according to NFL Network’s Mike Mayock, the team would be wise to address the other side of the ball in the first round.


"Forget wide receiver and the whole DeSean Jackson thing," Mayock said, per NFL.com. "Whoever is the highest-rated defensive player on their board, they have to draft him."

The conversation illustrates the impact of losing Jackson. A week ago, the Eagles looked like they were set at wide receiver. Sure, they could have drafted one anyway, but they didn't need to select a wide receiver.

Maybe Chip Kelly and Howie Roseman feel like they still don't need to. But the allocation of resources could now be different. We ran through the team's WR depth chart earlier today, and if they go with what they have now, it's a below-average group.

The defense added one starting-caliber player through free agency (Malcolm Jenkins), but is also in need of resources. Daniel Jeremiah of the NFL Network thinks the Eagles could be looking safety at No. 22.

"If one of (Ha Ha Clinton-Dix or Calvin Pryor) is there, they'll probably turn in the card," Jeremiah said on 'Path to the Draft.' "They have a lot of bodies in the secondary, but they don't have elite players in the secondary. I think these two safeties classify."

Roseman talks a lot about taking the best available player. But it should be noted that the Eagles have tiers. In other words, they could easily have multiple players grouped together. At that point, it does come down to need. Again, a week ago, WR would have likely got bumped for another position in the same tier. Now? That's probably not the case.

MORE VISITS FOR THE EAGLES

Tim reported yesterday that Florida DB Jaylen Watkins will have an official visit with the Eagles. And previously, Texas A&M WR Mike Evans said he would be taking one as well.

Now we can add three new names to the list: Indiana WR Cody Latimer, Oregon DL Taylor Hart and Texas guard Trey Hopkins.

Latimer (6-2, 215) had 72 catches for 1,096 yards and nine touchdowns last year. NFL.com projects him as a mid-round pick.

Hart (6-6, 281) played for Kelly and defensive line coach Jerry Azzinaro at Oregon. He would be a backup defensive end in Billy Davis' scheme. The Eagles will address defensive line depth in the draft (and with undrafted free agents). Hart is considered a mid-to-late round pick.

And finally, Hopkins (6-3, 305) was an AP All-Big 12 first team selection last season. The Eagles are always looking for offensive line depth, and Evan Mathis and Todd Herremans are both on the plus side of 30. Hopkins could be a late-round pick or undrafted free agent.

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  • Richard Colton

    Mayock’s an idiot. Hadn’t said anything controversial in 10 minutes, so he says this.

    So what you’re saying Mike…is that after extensive scouting and draft preparation, the Eagles should simply Jerry Jones this thing and cut their draft board in half? Brilliant.

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      “These guys need safeties. Forget their less than stellar WR lineup. Instead of boosting the WRs with some top end talent in a high-quality receiver class, they should go after the best of a shitty safety class, neither of which would have been top three last year.” I like Mayock most of the time. This is not one of them.

  • ICDogg

    If a superior player falls to you, it almost doesn’t matter what position he is, you take him if he is a good fit for you.

  • mtn_green

    BPA could easily be a wr. I agree that this draft will be predominantly defense 4 of top 6 picks on defense, but a wr may be first and I thought that before DeSean was cut.

  • TheNest

    I wonder what it would take to move up and draft Evans, assuming it requires moving anywhere from 10 to 15??

    • oreofestar

      maybe a 2 next year with a 4 this year or a 3 this and next year

  • brza

    Why would the Eagles use an official visit on a guy that Chip and Azz had full-time access to for 3 years? Seems like a waste considering they only get 30 of those official visits. What would have changed over the past year that Chip couldn’t find out through his contacts at Oregon or his Pro Day visit?

    • GEAGLE

      Uhhhh how about that fact that we would like to see how he has progressed from an injury that kept him out of the entire draft process…good enough of a reason?

  • Gil

    What does Maylock know about the Eagles? 95% of his draft guess last year were WRONG.

    I think Chip Kelly knows a lot more about who the Eagles should draft than this big mouth idiot Maylock who is full of himself.

    I hope Kelly trades up and takes the 6’5″ Beast Mike Evans, who would be unstoppable in Kelly’s offense.

  • Gil

    Several years ago, the Eagles traded up and drafted Bradon Graham (they should have selected Earl Thomas)…..so why don’t the Eagles trade up to #12 pick again, and select Mike Evans?

  • LostInChiTown

    I think the WR question is really about 2015 and on rather than this season. For 2014, we could easily get by with some combination of Maclin, Cooper, Ertz, Celek, Shady and Sproles. I think we can assume a lot more 2-TE and 2-RB sets this year, even on obvious passing downs (Mac, Coop, Ertz, Shady & Sproles in the slot).

    BUT, Sproles is the wrong side of 30, Celek is getting close, and Maclin is on a one year deal. None of those three can be counted on as a significant contributor for 2015 and beyond. If we don’t get a good WR in this draft, we could be stuck overpaying in free agency next year, or reaching for a lesser talent in next years draft.

    This draft is supposed to be loaded at WR. Plan ahead and get a top talent we can count on for 5 years.

    • Gil

      I agree, we need receivers, so why not draft them now in this great receiver draft?

  • cliff henny

    boys, get posting now, before the Geagle lands. he’ll be in full form

    • GEAGLE

      Nah…nothing to really discuss. Did my homework, know the kids I like, have an idea the kids the eagles wont value like my main man pryor…..nothing to pound the table for when you picking 22 in each round…better do your homework amd be ready to pounce when someone we dont expect ends up falling to us….we aint drafting DBs in the first 3’rounds, id bet on that…

      • Dominik

        Then why were they so passive in FA? Allen signed a one year deal as insurance, but I’d bet they wouldn’t mind benching him if they like a Rookie. Could be an insurance to Wolff, but they would be stupid to not take a safety if someone drops to them who offers great value.

        I’m with you on CB, though. Not with Safety.

        • GEAGLE

          I can see them possibly drafting HAHA who i dont even like, but i believe there is no show of us drafting Calvin, who I adore….you cant force the top safety to be the best player on your board just because you want a safety..l.i simply dont see many scenarios where one of this years “round 1 safeties” will be someone we feel we have to have…..if we are going to draft one, it would be haha, because he is a better fit for what we do

          • Dominik

            I wasn’t focused on the 1st. You wrote “we aint drafting DBs in the first 3’rounds, id bet on that” and I think there is a good chance we pick a safety in one of the first three rounds, if they see value in a player.

          • GEAGLE

            What value? This safety class sucks…draft Jonathon Dowling between rounds 5-7….If Bucanon falls to the 3rd, draft him…doubt we take him at 54

  • JBShakes

    Can’t agree, at least not entirely. To me, barring some ridiculous drop of one of the top 3 edge rushers (Clowney, Mack and Barr), there are three players that are great fits in the scheme and would be immediate impact players – Pryor, Clinton-Dix and Nix. If none of those guys are on the board, I think the pick has to be Brandin Cooks. He’s just too good a potential fit in the offense – can replace a lot of what DJax gave the passing game (admittedly probably not at Jackson’s level, at least not right away), can play the TAZR backfield/WR position. He’s just too good a fit to pass up for a borderline 1st-round defensive prospect like Dee Ford or one of the corners.

    • ICDogg

      To me Nix is the wild card. If he is as good as I think he is he would have a bigger impact than any of these other guys.

      • JBShakes

        I totally agree. An impact NT makes the entire front 7 better, and the extra boost to the pass rush helps the backfield. If Nix is there, to me it’s a no-brainer. “Big people beat up little people”, and all that. He was hampered by injuries last year, but go back and look at the BCS game from 2012 – he’s the only defensive player for ND that doesn’t look like a high schooler against the Alabama line.

        • GEAGLE

          Benny logan is the impact NT….guess what? If you are expecting NIX to be an IMPACT NT as a rookie, you will be in the same position this time next year…..wtf is wrong with you fans who think you see a kid play as a rookie and think its the best its every going to get for the kid? We are young as hell on the DL, if we werent happy with it, we would have added a veteran….Logan is our NT of the future, sooner you get on board, the sooner you will be right

          • cliff henny

            everyone wants to replaced your boy Bennie. he needs to hire you as his PR director

          • GEAGLE

            Smh i dont get what these people possibly saw to not be thrilled of his rookie season, playing 15lbs lighter than his eventual weight…dude anchored a run defense that flat out SHUT DOWN 7 of 8 last teams they faced, and we did it with little to no safety help….on top of that he was chasing QBs around as much as you would ever hope to see out of a NT, and fans actually think that he will be replaced in the lineup by a rookie? Get real

            Get over it, in his first playoff game, he got beat by superbowl winning Pro bowl lineman…OK…and?
            ….
            Smh insanity

          • JofreyRice

            getting blown off the ball in that Saints game was not a good look. And I’m not talking about when the Eagles were in their Nickel Defense. I’m talking about the base D.

            Sean Payton clearly saw something on tape from Logan, because they were trying to sneak on 4th and short right up the middle on the first series of the game (but shot themselves in the foot with a false start, and ended up punting). They continuously converted short yardage throughout the rest of the contest in that same manner–including that last drive that set up the FG. They came in with a specific plan based on the tape, I’m sure of it.

            They do seem to like Logan, and he did some good things playing a position that’s tough for rookies to excel at, but they need him to be able to hold the POA against NFL guards and centers, or teams will exploit it.

          • GEAGLE

            Wont dispute any of that…but if you would have asked Poe his rookie year to deal with Grubbs in a playoff game, by halftime Poe would have been at home hiding under his bed, sucking his thumb rocking back and fourth after being traumatized…for us to be high on him means we like the way he progressed both on the field and his growth(strength) and that we are projecting him to be the answer when he adds 15lbs and strength…and i saw nothing that would make me think the eagles are dumb for feeling that way about him…one bad game in over two months from a rookie? Ill take my chances

          • Hiral GM

            You are a true troll/clown…. Told you we are taking a DB.. Lol . Let me guess mike mayock is a troll as well. Lmao. Now shut your pie hole up unplug your keyboard sit back a let me teach you something clown. Let the real football heads talk.. Go play madden and draft a WR

          • JBShakes

            I understand you like Benny Logan, and you know what? So do I – I just think he’s a better fit as a rotational player rather than the full-time starter at NT. To me, he’s a guy who’d be best served rotating in to give Thornton and Cox rest at DE and lining up as a 3-tech on passing downs.

            As for Nix, why CAN’T he be an impact player as a rookie? If he’d come out after 2012, his draft grades would have been very similar to Star Lotulelei, a guy who pretty much single-handedly took the Panthers D from “solid D with a good pash rush” to “top 5 defense” last season. As a ROOKIE. Lotulelei dropped because of “medical concerns”, which seems to be exactly what’s dropping Nix’s stock as well.

          • GEAGLE

            Not even about my thoughts on Logan….id bet anything Howie,Chip and Billy ADORE him and are really intent on developing him as a starter

          • GEAGLE

            I hope he is on the board when we pick, so we can pass him and maybe then people can understand how high we are on bennie

          • Hiral(GM)

            Dude shut that clown talk up. I’m sick of your foolish rhetoric. Let me guess mike mayock doesn’t know what he is talking about as well. But you on the other hand should be in the draft room with howie and chip. Clown talk is what you bring to this site. Told you before and ill tell you again. We are taking a DB dope and if not that a DT. ;)

          • myeaglescantwin

            I’m with him here. Why use a #1 pick on a 2 down player. We would need a 3 down LB , or safety in rd 1.
            there are hogs to be had in the later rounds. These young players can be better served as roll players.

            that being said, i’m not 100% on logan as the end all be all at NT.

          • GoBirds1

            GayEagle your credibility to evaluate college talent and project that into the NFL is nil when you expressed your man crush over Manti Teo and then every other hot name in the media buzz since. Btw, how is your boy Manti doing.

        • korman

          I’d agree with you to an extent, but I’ve heard next-to-nothing about the Eagles targeting Nix. I can’t speak for how the team views him, but word on the guy is relatively quiet.

    • GEAGLE

      Please explain to me how Calvin Pryor is a great SCHEME fit to what we do on defense? Smh lets talk eagles defensive scheme…this im dying to hear

      • JBShakes

        Because Pryor has similar versatility to Jenkins, only in the opposite direction. He’s a stronger player against the run, but can still play (some) center-field and man coverage. He’s not Steve Atwater out there.

        • GEAGLE

          When has Louisville ever used him in man coverage? He damn sure cant do it like Jenkins who is a SB winning CB…..

          I would get it if you compared Haha to Jenkins…but comparing Swearinger/Pryor to Malcolm is something i dont undertstam at all…
          ..
          Louisville screwed Pryor….they made him play 30 yards deep, not cover anyone, keep dudes in front of him, and run up 15 yards and torpedo into defenders…There really isnt college tape of him being asked to do everything we require of our safties, so you are completly projecting if you draft him…then he goes on to have a terrible combine…..Not elite Athlete, Louisville never allowed him to show the versatility that we covet…i LOVE that kid, I just dont see how the Eagles could possibly like him that much

          • Hiral(GM)

            You lucky I didn’t catch you on here earlier today seeing we just had this conversion yesterday. The irony

    • myeaglescantwin

      WR is the position it take longest to get situated in the NFL. The defense is unquestionably still the biggest need for the Eagles..

      i remember a certain 4th quarter playoff drive where we were killed 3 yards at a time by the saints. I’d like to never see that happen again.

  • LostInChiTown

    Additional thought. Everyday I’m more disappointed the Eagles don’t have more than 6 draft picks. We used a 5 on Sproles and just lost Jackson for nothing, opening a huge hole moving forward. Makes me nervous.

    I think a trade out of the first round may be likely.

    • Tom W

      I think its very likely …. qb needy teams looking to get carr or teddy at 22 and hop fat andy and the browns … or someone wants moses …. or someone wants dennard …

  • Will

    Draft Day Draft Day Draft day I pray we have great success in CK 2nd draft…with just 6 picks and a real deep draft class I wonder what the Eagles will do? To get Mike Evans the Eagles will likely have to give up our first RD pick of 2015 and this years 1st RD pick at 22nd overall barring a player trade…even then value wise it puts you at the 7th spot at best. If the Eagles can get to 8-12 they might have a shot at landing Evans…if your sucessful do you trade back in with 2016 1st rd pick and our 3rd overall this year? Say at 17-20 and take BPA…then pick at 22 in the 2nd rd…Gives you 3 high quality player’s…A lot will be how the board falls…and getting a trade partner…and a little luck…

    • Tom W

      Don’t trade future assets. Not an effective way to build a team. Rather trade back and load up on second and third rounders in deepest draft in 20 yrs.

      Typically doesn’t pay off because of human error and value of two players in first round vs one. never say never but you are giving up a ton to get that high. I would think about it to get up to 18 to get Barr but any further and will cost too much. Love evans but doubt he is worth what it will cost. Maybe if he fell to 11 at titans but even then I would so rather trade down and accumulate studs and use our drafting advantage to build a stacked team

      • Will

        Hey I agree but your future 1st rd picks might be better used on better player’s in this draft which is loaded with underclass men declaring and entering the draft thus taking away from next year’s crop of players just something to consider…

        • IrishEagle25

          Think id rather trade next years one for a pick straight up, probably at the start of the second round.. that way you don’t lose a pick trading up.. Can get a WR, a CB and a LB in the first 2 rounds then

        • Tom w

          There is no way in hell that is even possible … That draft game is bullshit … It’s trades are wayyyy off the trade chart and past history. U would need to trade up to 9 to maybe get Evans, trade back in to get around 11-15 to get Barr, and reach for Buchanan in the second. Is love clowney while we are at but is like to have a first round pick the next three yrs

  • Brandon Boykin, LOL

    Let’s just face it. Our HC is offensive. We’re drafting offense.

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      The D-Jacc lovers find him very offensive.

      • Brandon Boykin, LOL

        Ha well… I’m a DJax sympathizer. I think Chip didn’t like him. I find Chip’s dislike offensive. But we’re not going to start this argument again.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          No, we’re definitely having the argument. I’m indifferent to that situation, to be honest.

      • Brandon Boykin, LOL

        Kudos for the pun, though.

  • cliff henny

    honestly do hope it defense, in particular 1 guy, Barr. seriously doubt with all moves Eagles made and priority of resources they place it’ll be safety or corner. #22 just seems to be sweet spot for WR or tradeback for those teams in top10 that passed on qb 1st time around and want to jump back in to get a Carr or Manziel or whomever has dropped. be interesting to see what Cleveland does with 1st selection. if they pass on qb, pick 26 (think) would almost have to be qb, and sitting at #22 hopefully teams will want to jump ahead of them.

    • JofreyRice

      From what little we know, and based on what they’ve said about drafting Dion Jordan, athletic edge rusher does seem to be one area Chip actually cares about on D. Obviously, he’s OK with good athletes/shitty players at other spots, but he does seem to prioritize that position.

      • Token

        Do you think Ford is even on their board? Doesnt meet the 6’9 height requirement.

        I was watching a little Allen Robinson. Do you think he makes it to the 2nd round pick?

        • JofreyRice

          Honestly, we don’t really know enough about Chip yet to really say. I hope someone like Ford is still on their radar, but my inclination is probably not.

          Here’s my rationale. Ford’s not versatile; will be an edge rusher that has to develop cover skills, and ability to set the edge. Also not really big–although, how much smaller than he is a guy like Khalil Mack who’s probably going top 5? 3/4″? It’s not like Ford is Brandon Graham; squatty and stubby with short arms. From what he know, obviously, we think Kelly likes rangy athletes on D. Ford is absolutely rocked up at his weight, too. I mean, he’s got an NFL physique, walking up to the podium after the selection. I don’t think you can say that about everyone.

          I like Allen Robinson a lot. I think he will be there in the second. Vicious on contested catches. He’s probably my second choice after ODB. Robinson or Moncrief would be really exciting picks.

          • Token

            I dont really want them looking at OLB as needing a versatile guy. They have that. Now they need the disrupter. The pass rusher other teams have to worry about. He should be dropping into coverage like 8% of snaps all season. You cant end up with 2 Connor Barwins. They need a legit pass rusher. Outside of Barr and Ford im not sure who I like in that role.

        • Tom W

          Ford said eagles were paying attention to him but I doubt we fall in love w him because of his height at 6 2 and his inability to play the run whatsoever.

          • Token

            Maybe not. But if they are dead set on 2 gap 3-4 then I really dont care if hes a below average run defender. You should have other players helping in that regard. Pass rusher first and foremost is what they need above any other trait.

        • oreofestar

          A-Rob is a trade back guy really if we want to trade into the 30-40 range

        • travis papa

          He doesn’t go past bill obrien at the top of the 2nd

      • cliff henny

        it makes sense, that’s the way he wants to play. run up and down the field, force qb into mistakes with tremendous athletes, if they drive, earn it and hold them to 3, and as always, hang 50!

  • Gil

    Eagles traded up from #24 to #13 to draft Brandon Graham….they gave San Fran two 3rd picks……so they may be able to trade up to draft Mike Evans.

    • IrishEagle25

      We only have 6 picks this year though

      • gil

        Yes, use 2 draft picks to move up to take future All-Pro Mike Evans….and 1 pick each of OLB, Safety, dback and oline……they have plenty of picks to really upgrade this team.

        • anon

          if you can find a way to hit in every round. then you gut the middle of the draft where the value is.

          • GEAGLE

            Doubt many HCs spent their saturdays during the season watching tape on college prospects they already knew better than every other NFL coach…it also probably helps that scouts arent paying much attention to the underclassment in august…this years high amount of underclassmen is making scouts rethink their approach…we should have an advantage with the underclassmen

        • IrishEagle25

          They would have to use #54 to get high enough then you have to rely on rounds 3-7 to find grades… like we can say they would all work out but you can’t guarantee that… love Evans but I think id be happier with a cooks/Beckham/lee and attaboy/smith/van noy or the like

      • Weapon Y

        Could use one additional pick this year and one next year

        • IrishEagle25

          Yeah I just don’t like the idea of trading up and losing picks.. especially when we are still trying to get players to fully fit the system..

    • oreofestar

      So next years 2 and this year’s 4? could that work

      • Gil

        Maybe a 3rd round pick this year, and 2nd round pick next year…to draft Mike Evans……that does not sound bad for an All-Pro Evans for the next 10 years.

  • TNA

    I think BPA is probably adjusted by marginal value (relative to other players in that position group and present supply in the league). Simplistically, saying a draft is “loaded” with WRs could also mean that the league is about to get a broad injection of talent at WR, which lowers the value of WRs overall because the standard of what it means to be an elite receiver is raised.

    • Andy

      And increases the value of players in the secondary.

      • Will

        yup supply and demand at work for sure…

  • Tom W

    Eagles are bringing in Jeremiah Attouchi next week … all right, all right, all right! Chip was dealing w djax fallout shitstorm and couldn’t make his proday and sent mcgovern instead.

    • Gil

      Yes, and yesterday they brought to Philly Mile Evans for private workout

      • Tom W

        Yea read that last week. worries me bc i hate trading up as far as it would take to get him

        • guest

          maybe they’re going to spike his urine so he fails a UT and then drops to 22

  • Neanderthal

    First time I would not mind trading down if we can get some value.

  • Token

    Well I see why Jeremiah isnt a scout anymore. Thinks both those safties are elite? Yikes.

    Drafting either safety in the 1st round is a reach.

    It depends how this shakes out. I dont think they should draft D regardless. That doesnt make sense. What if Ebron and HaHa are on the board? You are taking HaHa? No. If Barr gets past 15 I think they have to think about moving up if they have ammo to do it. The only other 1st round defender that interests me in our range is Ford. You probably dont have to move to get him.

    I dont see Beckham happening. Chip wants more size. If he goes with a 6′ guy it will be Lee over Beckham. But they would probably take a Robinson over either. You already had a talented little guy and Chip didnt like the fit. And hes faster than any of these draft guys. So why would he go and draft another smaller guy? You gotta hide them and do this and that to try and beat press man. Dont think he wants that.

  • Eagles1018

    Cody (not Corey) Latimer. Big body looks like he blocks well (forget Desean they better find blockers at WR after losing a willing blocker in Avant), has good hands and on one play in this clip he out muscles Darqueze Dennard for a TD

    • sdk152

      Fixed… thanks! -SK

      • Eagles1018

        You got it big homey. Since you’re taking requests can we get some more info on what the Eagles will/should do on defense? They’ve done nothing to fix pass rushing beyond Trent Cole who probably won’t be back after 2014. And the draft is not THAT deep at OLB at least if you’re looking for a stud guy. Thoughts?

        • Tom W

          first round – barr, ealy, ford
          second round, atta-boy, marcus smith, maybe van noy for a year .. maybe shazier but too short and small.
          third round – trent murphy, demarcus lawrence (more de)
          fourth round – west virginia d end converted to olb, adrian hubbard (ugh)
          fifth round – ronnie powell
          sixth round and later aaron lynch

          think we looking for a 6 3 olb w long arms to a 6 7 d end who is athletic to play olb … look at size of barwin and travis long … 6 5, 6 6.

          Chip spoke w marcus smith already, close attention to kony ealy at his pro day, bringing in attouchi, interviewed hubbard, interviewed and workout out at olb the kid from wva. recruited ronnie powell. also bringing in the oregon kid hart and knows boseko.

    • Bullwinkle

      He had a great Pro Day, see attached. The highlights in the attached article demonstrate that he is big, strong, has good speed, and excellent leaping ability. He beats up on the little people.

      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2007205-cody-latimer-huge-pro-day-will-propel-indiana-wr-into-early-round-discussion

      • Eagles1018

        I think a guy that’s 6’2″ 200 plus, 39″ vert, 4.38 – 4.40 40yd dash, tape shows good blocker, good hands, could be a 2nd rd pick IMO. I’m a defense guy all day but I know CK wants his toys to make this team go. I just hope whatever they do is not in seemingly typical Eagles fashion of hoping a guy like this drops. He’s mocked as a 2-3 rd guy, please don’t wait til the 3rd. His blocking I think needs some work, he needs to develop the ability to block more with his body and not just his hands. But this is a running team first. They needs receivers that are big for that reason as well. Just as important as guys that can run routes and catch.

  • daveH

    Mike Mayock awesome

  • JofreyRice

    Just can’t see it. Gotta think they go WR, OL, or TE. Can imagine scenarios where they look to replace either Mathis or Herremans, add the potential #1 WR they just cut loose, or add one of the talented TEs to pair with Ertz.

    • Token

      I dont wanna even think of a OL 1st pick. But if Barr isnt in their reach, yea WR seems like a good bet along with TE if Ebron is available. I keep seeing him go in the 10-15 range tho.

      • peteike

        you guys really think TE is even in the picture? I dont. I still think D. Mayock said Ha Ha most likely gone per great pro day, had scouts drooling. Cant wait to see how many ducks they draft and bring in, will get people in a tizzy if they have 2 or more

        • cliff henny

          Celek is more inline blocking that’s going to catch some balls, as opposed to Ertz, who’s going to catch balls and occasionally block. advantage to replacing Celek is those types can be found in 5th. that’s assuming Ertz becomes slightly south of what Johnny Geagle is promising, which is kellen wislow on steroids. but, I do enjoy his enthusiasm

          • GEAGLE

            Wouldnt sleep on us drafting sefarian Jenkins if he falls to 54, celek be damned

          • cliff henny

            celek be cut! i’m not against anything offensive, of course, Evans first

          • GEAGLE

            Nah,chip loves him and will prob value his leadership…i dont think its one of those situations under chip where we only cary 3 TEs, i could see that maniac easily carrying 4 even 5(if we add a quasi WR like Ebron)….MORE WEAPONS!!!

          • cliff henny

            one thing that’s great about Kelly, he isn’t about to get pushed around on offense.

          • GEAGLE

            Hell no…scoring 27pts,a game for him would be like averaging 13pts…he would lose his mind

          • cliff henny

            27? heck, scored 26 at halftime and he was pissed. man wants 50, if not 60. hope he sees it come true, be a blast to watch

          • JofreyRice

            He’s shown the most versatility. In-line, flexed out, in the backfield. Big guy. I’d be OK with it, but I’d prefer Niklas. He hasn’t had as much of a chance to show off his receiving skills, but he’s good clay.

          • GEAGLE

            Like Niklas…reminds me of the idiot eiffert the bengals drafted instead of Ertz

          • Adam G

            Why the hate of eiffert? Little random

          • GEAGLE

            Cuz he went in round 1 and Ertz will be better….all you need to know about what I think. Is i already designated ERTZ as one of my two fantasy keepers for next year

          • Adam G

            Ha, doesn’t make him an idiot. I feel like they will have similar careers.

          • GEAGLE

            I appreciate the bengals for taking him…i like Eiifert, but I like him like I like Niklaus, not in the first round sort of way….365 days ago you couldnt even get me to talk about Ertz because I thought he was so good that there was no chance he was making it out of round one. Thought he was such a pipedream for us that i tried to pretend he didnt exist…thats how good i thought he was

          • JofreyRice

            I’m still shocked about that little screen Celek found his missing 5th gear on. Couldn’t believe the way he accelerated in that 2nd Skins game.

            Agree tho, he’s definitely on his way out the door in the next couple years.

          • GEAGLE

            I swear i thknk about that screen all the time…thats how shocked i was by it…Curious to see what another offseason of Hulls training can do for him

          • cliff henny


            best i could find. of course is girl yapping away about nothing in background, but guy at 12 secs yelling ‘com’on’ cracks me up

          • GEAGLE

            I was there…everyone in my section was asking each other who the hell just did that…no one could believe it was celek

        • Token

          I think Mayock puts more stock into pro days than anyone in football. Most dont care. And yea TE is in the picture. If a Ebron is sitting there and hes the best on the board of course you take him. Celek is gone next year and Ertz is a solid good player. Could be a good pairing with Ebron.

          • peteike

            right, if Ebron drops maybe. Still have a hard time seeing them draft TE in 2nd and 1st back to back years with so many other holes. BPA though right

          • anon

            Frankly i think CK would take a team of TEs over a team of WRs. If you can teach them to be proficient catchers and blockers it’s really the best of both worlds. WRs with TE size come at a huge premium, but as you’re seeing with Graham catching TEs get paid a lot less and dominate DBs.

          • oreofestar

            I would like Ebron but he won’t make it to 22 anyway

          • ICDogg

            Definitely would take Ebron if he were there but I don’t think there is a high probability of that.

          • Amar (India)

            You are right-on about Mayock. He makes serious changes to his rankings based on Pro days. Most scouts put very little stock in them, especially the Eagles. Howie’s interviews on WIP revealed how much faith he has on game film than on Pro day / Combine.

  • Tom W

    Don’t think either pryor or haha are elite first round safety prospects. Jesus Jeremiah has gone to shit. Think Vaccaro was much better than both. Neither ran well and neither excel in man coverage. Haha is the deep ball hawk and pryor is the athletic box safety who cant tackle. Beyond that, w 6-8 teams ahead of us who need safeties, i dont see how they fall to us.

    That leaves us w best corners who aren’t going to play for a year. Gilbert will be gone. Say Dennard and Fuller are there? Dennard is on the short side and fuller has some bad tape and inconsistencies. Maybe at mid 40s. Chip repeatedly says he likes our corners alot and we boykin and carroll is a good 4. Don’t think we go corner in the first three rounds so the kid can sit on the bench all year. Think we follow the seahawks method of drafting corners later and coaching them as press corners. We aren’t good enough to let first round corners sit around and learn.

    Nix isn’t elite talent, has knee problems, and you don’t draft nose tackles based on tape from a year earlier after a bad year of tape.

    Only defensive product we may draft at 22 is Kony ealy as our aldon smith and even that is probably a stretch. But Chip is going heavy front 7 on d this draft ..at least two if not three picks

    Best best is to trade down (or pray Barr falls to 18 or so and grab him up) and accumulate picks to fill holes w future starters who can play a bit this year like a wr, ilb, olb, safety, guard … like van noy in the second, marcus in the second, christian jones in the third, moncrief in the third, wvu d end in the 4th, barrow in the fourth, bailey in the 4th, kirksey in the fourth, dontae in the fifth, mitchell in the fifth, etc

    Why would Mayock push drafting for need he knows better than that.

  • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

    Philly needs to draft Pittsburgh style and just stay put and draft the best player that is there. No need to jump around.

  • Honest_T

    From what I think I know about Chip, he thinks you win with the line (both OL & DL). He can’t be happy with the lack of pressure we got last year. The last 2 free agency periods show you can fill the secondary adequately with guys off the street, but when it comes to DL and especially 3-4 edge rushers, that is much harder to do. I think we go OLB or NT early.

    I also don’t see them trading up in round 1. Too many needs in a deep draft class to do that. Also, with Sproles on the roster, that means Brown or Polk likely gets traded.

    • cliff henny

      Gil, pace yourself brother! like new posters but man, you working off 3 or 4 different monitors? ;)

    • GEAGLE

      Shocked if one, maybe even two of these guys arent an eagle…marcus smith, attaboy, Demarcus lawrence or Murphy

    • cliff henny

      sorry, refreshed my browser and about 50% Gils dropped off.

  • GEAGLE

    I want exum to fall to the 6th(probably a pipe dream), and get Jonathon Dowling in the 7th. Although im not sure how we will feel about his Giant neck tattoo, knowing lurie

    • GEAGLE

      Dont ask how i know a 7th/UDFA from western kentucky has a neck tattoo lol

      • Rahkem

        We need Colt Lyerla ! lol

        • GEAGLE

          Its COKE LYERLA!!! Much cooler that way!!

          • cliff henny

            hope if eagles draft him, get a ‘pepsi’ chant going after catch/td

          • GEAGLE

            I can see the entire stadium chanting Cooooooooooooke!!!!! Like we did with Duce

          • cliff henny

            so can I, but rather not be that knuckleheaded of fanbase for the under 12 kids and their dad’s

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahahaha if a fanbase is that nuts to praise a rookie for being a drug addict it would def be drunken eagles fans on sundays….until those 12yr old kids fathers stop getting smashed and beating the crap out of each other at eagles games in front of their kids…then i chose to invoke the Charles barkly code…”I am NOT a role model” especially on sundays :)

          • Richard Colton

            Why do it halfway? COKE LYINGToYa. After his first beast-mode TD he can be COKE LION-ONya

        • anon

          Hahah, unless he’s a choir boy or completely reformed he’s not getting drafted.

          I would have taken Blount for $1.3/yr and then traded the other RB depth and cut James Casey.

    • Tom W

      I like Exum alot … may be a scumbag though … 6th would be outstanding but who knows …. i’m thinking we take colvin in 6th and sit on him and draft dontae johnson in the 5th … dowling is a afraid to tackle. Kenny ladler from vandy is also an intriguing option late

      • GEAGLE

        Scumbag? Intelligent, cultured, articulate, sometimes can come off as arrogant…nothing i hear of constitues the scumbag label…what am i missing? Played 3 years of FS then switched to CB for the good of the team…has he been arrested or something?

        • GEAGLE

          Now Demarcus Lawrence, THATS a friggin Knucklehead, but Id take that Maniac Warrior to play ROLB all day….his 97 suspensions dont scream Chip kelly..but crazy talent

        • Tom w

          Arrogant me me …. Granted scumbag was too harsh.

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Exum (or anyone else, for that matter) falling to the 6th would be far more useful if we had a 6th round pick. Or did we one that I’m unaware of?

      • GEAGLE

        We are getting one for BG…and im sure we trade back to get atleast one more

        • Maggie

          You were also absolutely positive that DJax wasn’t going anywhere, too.

  • Rahkem

    If one of the safeties is there take him , id also lke Jason Verrett or Darqeuze Dennard but even though theirs depth at the reciever position theirs a dropoff after OBJ and Brandin Cooks. Those two players may fit what chip wants more than any other guys in this draft , guys who can make contested catches and still make people miss in space. Again if a safety is there its a no brainer but after watching 4 games on each of those two recievers it would be hard for me to pass on those guys at 22, In last years draft they wouldve been top 15 Picks this class is just so loaded its pushing them down to us at 22 ,we should take advantage if a safety isnt on the board and we arent in love with a corner.

    • GEAGLE

      What are you going to do with Verrett? Are you preparing to cut Boykin for some gang affiliation I dont know of?

      • Rahkem

        Verrett Can play on the outside , im not buying that hes only a slot corner because hes 5’9 , if brandon flowers can do it he can as well. Hes extremely physical and by far the best pure cover guy in this draft.

        • GEAGLE

          Lol Brandon Flowers is having major problems in KC, they cant wait to move him to nickle in 2015

          • Rahkem

            According to PFF Flowers has been Excellent the last 2 seasons if im not mistaken , hes not moving to the nickel , ever lol With Verretts 39 inch vertical im not worried about height , exspecially when you see how conifindet he is to get his head around a play the ball and how many plays he makes on the football and not the reciever.

          • GEAGLE

            YOU ARE SERIOUSLY MISTAKEN!!!! I have read like 7 different reports about “not fitting in Suttons scheme as an outside CB” and eventually having to move him to nickle…im positive, I FOCKS with Suttons defense…i was busting on Andy Reid and flowers every week

          • Rahkem

            Welll hes still a good corner i know he was one of the best rated corner in 2012 , 2011 and 2010, if hes not a fit for suttons system thats fine but hes been good on tthe outside without sutton lol

          • anon

            Great in Zone can’t play Man I hear is the problem. Opposite of the Revis issue.

          • travis papa

            Cheese and rice fella you are describing Boykin who is an inch taller and they still won’t give him a shot outside and he’s a proven cb in the league. Fudge

          • Rahkem

            hes nothing like boykin , go watch Verrets tape , hes a better cover guy than anyone else in the draft , if he was 6’0 he’d be a top 10 pick. Verrett is a good tackler and is VERY phycial unlike boykin who i love. Verrett is also faster and had no trouble dealing with bigger recievers go watch his tape

          • travis papa

            As much as you like him unless he has a verified 3″ growth spurt in the next month he won’t be drafted by the eagles to play outside cb. Ask Boykin if you don’t believe me.

          • Rahkem

            I get what your saying , i dont believe we will pick him but im not the only one who likes him , he was invited to attend the draft so hes expected to be a 1st round pick. Chip kelly prefers bigger guys but verrett is the kind of guy you make an exception for , 4.38 speed 39 inch vertical to go along with amazing game tape.

  • Guest

    From the Birds…

  • Eagledan

    What about signing Kenny Britt. Thoughts?

    • Adam G

      He signed.

      • Richard Colton

        penal league?

        • Adam G

          Yeah the california penal league.

    • cliff henny

      must be banking on Benn. I don’t get it, i’m at a token level on that guy, he stinks

    • GEAGLE

      He is a ram..and that will go over great with the fans you are allowing to believe lost their fav player for gamgbanging

    • Maggie

      He was resigned.

  • Amar (India)

    Kempski top 5 WR

    1 Watkins 2 Evans 3 Lee 4 Cooks 5 Beckham

    • oreofestar

      Just switch Lee with ODB and the list is fine

  • cliff henny

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 25s

    Redskins and DeSean Jackson still haven’t discussed contract. Team to watch: SF. 49ers have “real but guarded” interest in DJax, per source
    .
    guess it’s not as close as we were led to believe.

    • Adam G

      What I find hilarious is that they did all this wining and dining, and really the only thing that matters to desean is money, just like mr wonderful from shark tank.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        Dan probably showed him the bill and DeSean said, “That money would have been better spent by putting it in my pocket.”

      • cliff henny

        right? what are you talking to jax about before money? still believe if the Hamilton TIgercats offered him 4yrs 45m/20+m guaranteed, jax be up in America’s hat making finger puppers

        • G_WallyHunter

          Hamilton only 30 min away, I’d go watch :)

        • Adam G

          Apparently his agent is just sitting down now. I really wonder if they will meet his demands. Have to come with a decent signing bonus bc of cap constraints.

          • GEAGLE

            I heard desean left already

          • Adam G

            He did. Segal is at the table. Keeping him around.

          • GEAGLE

            Better sign with the skins…im gonna spazz out if he is a niner,,.those pigs have more picks then they know what to do with…if they sign desean they should throw us a pick for charity

        • Maggie

          Do you mean Hamilton, Ontario, Canada? The 2nd largest country in the world? The city where Donovan McNabb’s nephew played hockey and was drafted in the first round last year? That Hamilton? Where your very own US Steel has manufacturing facilities, although they keep reducing operations and cutting jobs, even after getting tax breaks from the Canadian government? That Hamilton?

        • Jerry Pomroy

          If DJax was a religious man they could sell the fact that there is a church right next door and shares the same entrance to the stadium. How’s that work on Sunday’s???

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Man, that’ll make this morning’s discussion pretty worthless.

    • JosephR2225

      Wonder what they have been talking about so far. Fabric swatches?

    • GEAGLE

      Niners said to have called his agent last night when he was at dinner with snyder…then the genius thought it was a good idea for his image to take pictures in a nightclub with washington rapper Wale(meek mills will be jealous)….hear the browns also really interested. Much rather him sign with skins than niners…ill be so mad if he is in san fran

      • anon

        49ers have no cpa space. They’d have to give him the Jaruis Byrd contract.

        • GEAGLE

          Cap space is some pink unicorn GMs agreed to invent to justify being cheap to fans

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Well as long as it supports breast cancer I think it’s something we can all appreciate.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            With cap increasing, they also need to increase rosters and spending floor.

        • guest

          Boldin comes off the books next year. Its no problem for them to load the contract up after the first year.

          • Adam G

            Kap’s contract makes that a little dicey. Plus cutting Boldin next year would only free up 3.3

      • guest

        in fairness, yes, Wale was in the picture, but so was DeAngelo Hall and Pierre Garcon. It was Hall and Garcon that took him out on the town.

        • GEAGLE

          If half of america is speculating im a gangster, id probably refrain from being seen anywhere near a rapper for a few days while millions of dollars hang in the balance…but thats just me

          • guest

            The funny thing is…it probably wont have any effect on his salary. It only takes 1 crazy owner to pay him. Snyder certainly qualifies.

            Also, rappers aren’t gangsters. Some are, and I’m certainly no Wale expert, but especially in more recent years, there are many more rappers that might look the part, and smoke a lot of weed, but are family men.

            You’re not wrong though. I’m not saying DeSean is not an idiot. I’m just saying he was out with Redskins

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Snyder is odder than you think and much more of an ass than you think. A lot of these guys are like that. When I worked with DirecTV I had the pleasure of visiting the homes of Jaws, Irving Fryar, Dan Snyder, Vai Sikahema, some scrub CB from Vikes, Pete Townshend’s daughter.

            The nicest was Pete Townshend’s daughter by far. The worst was Dan Snyder by far. Got a signed hat from Fryar & poster from Jaws. Vai just got home from work, so I dealt with his wife mainly. But I did shake his hand to wish him merry xmas (was there late on Xmas eve about 10yrs ago). He’s got a monster grip.

          • GEAGLE

            Believe me, I have zero problem with any rapper and half are just actors playing a part..but old rich white dudes with money could see things differentl then I do, but you aren’t wrong…it only takes one

          • Hir(GM)

            Trust we know your not a gangster and $amn sure not a football expert. Probably from Idaho somewhere and haven’t even been to south jersey or philly

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Screw that. I don’t want him in DC over SF. Go west DeSean, go west and be forever forgotten. I don’t want to watch his on field antics against us. I’d be calling for his head and wanting Waters, Hopkins or Dawk to come outta retirement and knock his lights out.

  • Javi Echie

    Has anybody been on twitter the past couple of hours? Apparently a DC radio station called Jason Kelce a pussy and Kelce responded with a video from week one of him stone walling London Fletcher.. Jason Kelce is the f’n man!!!

    • GEAGLE

      Yeah….he owned them

      • Javi Echie

        Yea I thought the response was great.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Lol that’s jokes, they make fun of Kelce why? Because Jackson is visiting and Kelce tweeted can’t wait for future? Jeeze idiots…happy he’s so active to make people look like idiots on internet..

      • Javi Echie

        I was thinking the same thing brotha, they attack Kelce for that exact reason and he responds with the best respond, a video if him doing what he does best. F**K the skins and there DC radio idiots

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I worked down in DC area and their local sports radio is TERRIBLE. That said, B’more’s isn’t great either. Maybe I’m partial being behind enemy lines, living in MD now.

    • cliff henny


      .
      ha kelce kills fletcher…and just to piss off RIP, if Jax blocks downfield, McCoy has a TD on the run

      • damrvrhunter

        True that on both counts.

      • ODBorBustAllDay

        Jackson’s blocking wasn’t even remotely responsible for Shady being forced out of bounds? Celek might have extended the play if he picks up #30 screaming in from the left side, but that would’ve been a tough play to make. Jackson blocked effectively for a 160lb guy. One of the more annoying commentaries about the dude…. He never blocked , the same way Asante never tackled. True, Asante had no idea HOW to tackle, but he was more than willing to throw himself at the ball carrier, often resulting in a stinger because he damn near broke his neck going in like an idiot. I found Desean to be an adequate blocker most plays. This one included.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          To be fair, on this play, Shady didn’t go OOB until after he got past Avant’s block & DJax’s man was free and headed toward him. But at least he did block. Or try to.

          • ODBorBustAllDay

            I think of gets a piece of #30 he’s free to cut it back to the middle, in which case Desean’s block is effective…… Since we all wanna break down film you should know that NFLRewind is only $24.99 from now til July 31! 5 day FREE TRIAL off the bat. Every game the last 4 years complete with the ALL 22!!! Only works on IOS and Android tablets tho?????

      • myeaglescantwin

        This was beautiful.

        thats the definition of road grader.

    • myeaglescantwin

      awesome

    • BleedGreenJames

      Kelce bodied so many people when he got out and pulled. Mark Barron was on the receiving end of a nasty one when they hit Shady on that big screen to start the Bucs games. He also had Lance Briggs eating dirt in his first game back. Those are just off the top of my head.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    So Mayock is Captain Obvious now?

  • Tyrion Lannister

    I had actually become OK with releasing Desean… until I saw Ashley Fox liked the move. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10706865/philadelphia-eagles-made-right-move-cutting-desean-jackson

    • GEAGLE

      F Her!! Give her that Imp ish, and send her on her way

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Upvote for name.

  • GEAGLE

    YES…i just realized why i like Dowling, its cause he reminds me of new york Knicks Super Knucklehead JR smith lol

  • GEAGLE

    Cliff any chance we can trasform Hubbard the way we did Wolff? God his tape sucks
    ..Adrian “Big 4 nuffin” Hubbard

    • cliff henny

      IDK. Wolff least played hard, was just running the wrong way 50% of the time. have to check him out, it got a little funny. I really grew to hate Hubbard, mean almost everything about him, watching him live got me frustratingly angry. he almost seemed lazy and disinterested. not sure how much of that is scheme. he’s an off the bus first guy, for sure. physically looks great but did nothing on the field, ever, never, not a glimpse. if I didn’t know and follow his number, wouldn’t even know he was on the field. if it’s between him and any WR, hope they take WR. another Token level guy for me.

      • GEAGLE

        What i hate even more than all that is the. “Thinks he is better than he is label”

        Stout graded his kids on how they blocked him in practice…he should know if we need to draft him or stay away

        • cliff henny

          to replace Cole, the role we assume they want, hybrid impact pressure qb guy, all over the place…literally nothing I can recall live thinking that is the guy. Barr, raw as raw can be, but that dude was flying all over the place. someone gets him pointed like Wolff, now we’re talking. little unfair comparison 1st vs 4th, but I don’t even see unreal athleticism in Hubbard like a Wolff.

          • GEAGLE

            Only reason people even mention Hubbard is because of the lack of size and length of this years OLB prospects

          • cliff henny

            he was only reason I watched ‘bama. was waiting to see why cbssports had 2nd round grade, and they saw what I saw, ending year as 5th/6th. think he’s rebounded to 4th.

          • GEAGLE

            Big-4-nuttin…

          • Jerry Pomroy

            What do you think of Will Clarke? I think he’s a solid consolation prize if we don’t address OLB in rds 1 & 2. Excellent size, good character guy that’s coachable and plays well both against run, rushing passer & in space. Will chase down plays and is actually more athletic than you’d think. He’s even good at leveraging himself despite his tall frame. Needs some polishing of course, but could turn out to be a solid player, if not really good player. I think the Michael Johnson comparison is legit, but I see that comparison as his floor because he looks exactly like Johnson now.

  • WorldPh_ingChamps

    I think that the Eagles would be best served to get a playmaker on D with their first pick, whether that be in the secondary or LB corp. DL depth can be added later in the draft. Don’t forget we will need OL depth as well. This all depends on availability, but I would go:
    1) DB or LB
    2) WR or the other D position that we don’t draft in rd 1.
    3) OL or NT depth
    4) another LB or pass rusher

    • Tom w

      Eagles don’t draft positions try draft players. We don’t look at positional tiering and positional scarcity … Howie said as much more than once last year

  • Eagledelphia

    Safety comparison by walterfootball http://walterfootball.com/draft2014positionreviewS.php for those who believe taking Did or Pryor would be a reach

    • Tom w

      Walter football is the laughing stock of the scouting community

      • Adam G

        So all the scout’s got together and told you this? I think their mock drafts are pretty good compared to others, no?

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Can you offer up some alternatives? I’m always looking for additional scouting sources.

        • Tom w

          Josh Norris I really like and he scouted for the texans. Rotoworld. Optimum scouting.
          CBS sportsline for a baseline. Cosell. Caplan.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Thanks. I use mosy of those already. Do Cosell & Caplan do any writing pieces? I know they do video for PE.com & I follow Caplan on Twitter, but have never seen any traditional scouting reports from them.

        • GEAGLE

          Me

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Hahaha…eh no…lol

          • GEAGLE

            ;)

    • Token

      HaHa better then Vacarro? Jesus what a horrible site.

  • ODBorBustAllDay

    Mayocks not wrong. We need to get more athletes on defense. Cole, Ryans, Williams, Fletchers are all GONE in the next year possibly,2.years tops.Logic would tell you that WR is deep enough to find an impact player in the 2nd or 3rd round. Problem is the best of those guys are gonna FLY off the board 10-20. Too many teams in desperate need of playmakers in that range.

    Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and the Jets, all need a WR BAD!. Pitt just lost Sanders and Cockery leaving them w/Antonio and Heath Miller as the top targets…. That’s not gonna fly. Having invested in safety and olb this off season, they’ll want a big body wr to compliment Brown, and aid in run blocking. Baltimore couldn’t move the ball at all in ’13, They addressed their needs at tackle and center, and could stand to replace Art Jones on the D- line. But teams with any hope of competing with Denver and New England are gonna need to score points to survive. They also sorely missed Boldin’s physicality in the run and pass game. The Jets signed Decker who’s at best a #2. With a stable of pedestrian wide outs, they’d also be well served by picking up a passcatcher. (Someone who could play a similar roll to how Tavon Austin was used at WV makes sense to aid Geno going forward. Their public pursuit of Desean should give you a good indication where their priorities lye. Eric Ebron could fit the bill for any of these teams, however, the Eagles have to know that if they want one of the top 5 guys, they’re gonna have to jump, maybe as many as 8 spots to #14 (currently owned by Chicago)in order to leapfrog the above mentioned teams.

    Whether they can even pull this off is highly doubtful. There’s obviously been some discussion about moving up. They were willing to host Mike Evans for a workout, despite having no legitimate chance at selecting him since he’s not likely to get out of the top 10. Perhaps they wanted to use his workout/interveiw as a baseline to compare other prospects to, and find out how close to the top prospects these other players are? But if you’re talking about the top 5 guys being gone (Watkins, Evans, Cooks, Benjamin, and ODB/Lee….you pick.), Thats what its gonna take.

    I think this realization explains why they were willing to offer up Mathis and Desean to bolster the amount of picks they could use for the leap. If the cost becomes too prohibitive, I think they stay put, and wind up going BPA. Of the wideouts, the 2 I see having any chance of making it to #22 would be either, ODB, or Lee.

    We know Chip attended FSU’s pro day, and had Evans in for a visit. We know of the WRs he’s acquired, nearly all have been +6′ ft. We also know he cut a 5’9″ kid who wasn’t much of a YAC threat. For these reasons I think Kelvin Benjamin is coach’s top choice. And to get him I think you have to get in front of Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and the Jets.

    With Kelly at the helm, this team feels no pressure to address ANY position on defense in the first round. They’ve got youth on the D-line, and feel good enough about the backers and secondary to grab players in the latter rounds. They’re going for impact, and they only way Chip knows how to make an impact is to score more points.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Damn bro. That was a mouth full. Could you summarize…lol.

      I don’t think they move up for a WR. Too deep a position to move up for and there just isn’t anyone that I see heads above everyone else except maybe Evans that “they’d” do it for. I personally would salivate for Ebron terrorizing the middle of the field. 20+ downfield in between hashes is his playground & safeties would have trouble with his combination of size, strength, speed & hands. The way he is able to make those over the shoulder catches in stride looks like a bigger version of TO playing the middle.

      • ODBorBustAllDay

        Definitely Ebron would be a nice pick up. But I think even he’s gone by 22. My general feeling is that what separates this WR class, particularly the top 5 guys, from the rest of the class is the elite potential.

        Watkins is very gifted. Evans is a man. He’s gonna bully DBs yr1. Cooks I hate to say he’s like Desean cuz he’s not. He’s more like Shady with straight line speed, the way he stops on a dime and reverses field + fights for yardage.Benjamin looks like a baby Larry Fitz when he’s on. Not a guy you wanna have to tackle 1 on 1. And Beckham, I honestly don’t see where Sammy Watkins is better than this kid? I guess Watkins is a bit bigger but that’s about it. He catches everything. Runs yard as hell! Hes from a family of athletes and coaches who installed a serious work ethic in him. And he might slide to a good team with a good QB and start lightin sh%t up asap!

        It’s just my opinion, but these 5 guys are gonna be followed their whole careers like the ’83 QB class. I think the draftniks are missing the fact that they’re all going early. Maybe by pick 20. And I think a huge part of The Eagles willingness to dump #10 was the feeling that they could not only replace, but upgrade him very easily with any of the aforementioned. At a much cheaper price for the next 4years. True the class in general is deep, but I dont think you get the certainty of success beyond these 5 with the rest of the class. That’s why I think they’ll try to move up and get Chip a stud. Just don’t think they have the bullets to go get Evans.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I love ODB, and he plays much bigger than his size, but I think they want a bigger guy though.

    • Tom w

      Think Benjamin is overrated, poor hands, and limited rac ability. Don’t even have a first rd grade on im. Steelers may force him in bc they crave a tall wr but I think it’s more likely they draft nix. Think the eagles would be nutz to move up for him. Doubt we move up for any player we don’t have enough picks and mortgaging your future by using next yrs picks is a horrible idea.

      • ODBorBustAllDay

        I agree with your Benjamin points. I Just don’t know if Chip does. My main point tho is that if you want one of those guys and you’re in the early 20′s like us, you may be SOL.

  • Mr. Magee

    Well that settles it… If Mayock thinks we should draft D, it’s obvious we should focus on fhe offense

  • myeaglescantwin

    No doubt, we still need 3 of the 4 first picks on the defensive side of the ball. That other pick should be OL.. WR, can wait.
    Aside from MegaTron & Moss, no rookie WRs come into the league and make an immediate impact.

    And don’t worry about the trash that comes from DC. Those punks have no back bone. Once we dominate them again 2 this year, they can throw their jerseys back in the closet for another 20 years. I’d call them front runners, but their squad is still a joke. They are just bandwagon mouth runners.

    Nolan Carrol will shut DeSean down 1-on-1. no worries fellas

    • lou

      Keenan allen

      • myeaglescantwin

        WE GOT 1 !!!!! (and he is the only option the Rivers has.) can you provided 2 more,, then take that number of 3, add up all the 1st round receivers drafted in those drafts they were in & all drafts in between, and give me a percentage.

  • Scrunt

    Part of me wants to see Dennard so he can lock down Desean but I would be fine with OBJ or HaHa in round one and Joyner in round 2