Eagles Wake-Up Call: What We Learned In Orlando

NFL: Annual Meetings

We spent the first part of this week at the owners’ meetings in Orlando, Fla. discussing various football-related topics with Chip Kelly, Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie, among others.

Now that we’re back in Philadelphia and have had some time to reflect on what went down, here are some takeaways.




* By all accounts, Kelly is calling the shots on the big offseason decisions. We know he has final say on the 53-man roster, and Kelly's fingerprints are on every move the Eagles are making. For example, Lurie noted that if Kelly wanted to sign Jairus Byrd instead of Malcolm Jenkins, that's what the team would have done.

"Nobody knows the safety who the Saints signed better than our coach," Lurie said. "I have very big confidence in that. And if he thought that we should allocate our resources to have that player be our safety for the next several years at that level, then that’s what we would have done."

Meanwhile, as we've discussed in this space previously, if the Eagles part ways with DeSean Jackson, that will be Kelly's call as well. The idea of Roseman walking into Kelly's office and convincing him it's a good idea to dump the team's leading receiver seems far-fetched.

And finally, there's the draft. In an interesting revelation, Kelly said he started scouting college prospects during the NFL season.

"I have time on Saturday," he said. "If we finish practice at noon on Saturday and our team meeting’s at 5, I’ll throw on college tape in the afternoon in-season and take a look at some guys. And our guys do an unbelievable job of preparing them. Here’s a list of outside linebackers or here’s a list of corners. Here’s a list of those guys. So I think all of our coaches are kind of always staying in tune with that."

Roseman, Tom Gamble and their team obviously play an important role, but the sense here is that nothing gets done without Kelly's full stamp of approval.

* Jackson is still on the trade block. Yes, I know you're sick of the story, which seems to feature a new rumor or twist every day. But my impression after hearing from Kelly and company is that the team still wants to move the wide receiver. Kelly was asked a simple question: Do you want Jackson back? If the Eagles weren't trying to trade Jackson, the head coach could have just said: "Yes." But he didn't.

Meanwhile, Roseman was more than willing to discuss every other player on the roster for 30-plus minutes, but questions about Jackson were off-limits.

Remember, there is no real rush here. The Eagles have the next six weeks to decide what to do. I know some of you disagree, but I'm paid to offer up my honest opinion. And I'd be surprised if Jackson were still on the roster on May 10, the last day of the draft.

* The idea that spending money on certain players can cause resentment with others is a real thing. Mostly, we've discussed this in terms of adding free agents. Pay new guys, and if they aren't fits in the locker room, existing players are left to wonder why they're not the ones cashing in.

But it looks like the theory applies even when you spend money on your own players. The Eagles decided to give Jason Kelce and Jason Peters healthy extensions. Evan Mathis, meanwhile, has started 47 of the last 48 games and played at a high level. Now his camp has approached the Eagles about restructuring his deal.

The problem? Mathis is in the third year of a five-year contract, and he'll turn 33 next season. There is no real motivation for the Eagles to extend him.

But managing finances, making players feel like they're valuable and keeping everyone happy can be tricky. If the Eagles have another successful season in 2014, they'll have even more of these issues to deal with.

WHAT YOU MISSED

Is Kelly displaying hubris? Here's what the national media are saying.

In-depth comments from Kelly about Jackson.

T-Mac has the latest on Mathis.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Rob Rang of CBSSports.com has the Eagles taking Auburn edge rusher Dee Ford at No. 22:

The Eagles took a significant step in improving upon their 30th ranked pass defense by landing former New Orleans Saints' safety Malcolm Jenkins but more help is needed. Adding a versatile and explosive edge rusher like Ford, the Senior Bowl MVP, would help.

Andy Reid offered some thoughts on Jackson, via Paul Domowitch of the Daily News:

"I have nothing but good things to say about the kid," Reid said. "I drafted him. I had a great relationship with him. When his father passed away [from pancreatic cancer in '09], that was a hard thing for him to go through at a young age. They were best friends.

"I've experienced life things with him. He was great for me when I was there."

COMING UP

Plenty non-DeSean stuff to get to from our conversation with Kelly.

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  • Kevin

    Why are we stuck on the “fallacy of non-denial”? If it’s not denied, then it must be true right? The obvious question, which I have not seen addressed anywhere is, “what would the Eagles gain from publicly stating that DeSean is not on the trade block”?
    So, let’s take a close look. Obviously, it would stop the rumors and give Jackson a warm and fuzzy feeling, which he apparently now has judging by instagram and the Chipper with a big yellow bat. There is a ‘loose’ argument for supply and demand and driving up his trade value, but you are trying to leverage your internal demand against external at that point. Other than that, what is the benefit of squashing the rumor?
    Now, the other side, why keep private/quiet and let the rumor mill run? First, the organization has a policy not to comment on rumors. Once you break it, then you set a dangerous precedent. The next time this happens and there is no comment, then the reports go back to here and say “well they commented on DeSean, therefore no comment on this means…”, so it is a no win. Second, you want to keep your business in house and not deal through the media. This is another strong organizational policy. If DeSean and Chip talked and understand each other, than that is all that matters (not that that makes a good story). If you say there is no trade and then you trade him, now you are set up where no one believes you. It seems pretty obvious to me that the best course for the organization, as long as they and Jackson have talked, seems to be keep following the ‘no comment – private conversation’ line.
    Final thought, we marvel at how good the Eagles are at keeping secrets, is it a more logical argument at this point to claim the Eagles bungled this to this extent or to claim that most of this is fueled by rampant and unsupported information and stories? If you look at only what we know are the facts (not supposed information from sources that are often conflicting), there is no real story here, but if you stretch reality and make one, you get a ton of ‘clicks’ during a quiet off season.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Great post I agree, Chip thorughly thinks out everything he says, he chose not to say he was neither committed nor non-committal on the situation, a smart way to go about it, no need to be showing any cards in March with the situation… Can’t wait to see how it folds out

      • GEAGLE

        That’s not exactly true tho. Chip had no problem showering Maclin,Barwin, Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher with all kinds of praise yesterday, but is very stingy with his compliment of Desean…

        I get not painting yourself into a corner, but I would have prefered him just blatantly lying and putting all this talk to bed, while not looking so anxious to unload him to the Rest of the league,,,
        ,,,
        When Chip Kelly is praising The butt fumble but not Desean Jackson, people are going to interpret that as us wanting to trade desean

        • ABirds

          True. He praises some players more openly than others. But, as a leader, I’m sure Chip knows there are different personality types and that different players respond differently to coaching styles. Some people respond well to open praise and it makes them work harder. Others handle small amounts of praise well, etc.

          Desean strikes me as having an big enough ego already. How do you handle that? You praise but also break them on some things. For someone who has an over-inflated ego already, that kind of coaching often makes them work harder. “Why aren’t I getting the same praise as Cooper? I’m better than him. I’ll show the Chippah.” Something like that. It’s all psych fellas.

      • Kevin

        Thanks G! Chip and Howie know what they are doing and as much as I would love to know the details, I trust they can run an organization. My ‘gut’ feeling is that there is some truth to the rumors, but not near the extent that is being reported. To me, the most likely scenario is that the Eagles signed Maclin & Cooper other GM’s and the media took notice and thought, well DeSean’s a small guy, may not fit Chip’s system, maybe they are willing to move him. So a GM picks up the phone and asks Howie if DeSean is available, Howie probably gives a cryptic reply of “Why, what are you offering?” the other GM says a 6th, Howie giggles, comments he was a second round draft pick and says goodbye. All of the sudden the Eagles are trading DeSean and need at least a third. I have no doubt that if they got a Percy Harvin type deal, they would move DeSean, but cut him? low draft pick? Why? There have been no reports from teammates or the organization that they have any issues with him, why eat the 6 million in dead cap for a highly productive player? To me, the biggest loser in all of this is DeSean. The Saints got a 5th for Sproles…. and we can’t get anything for DeSean and the league seems to think he is overpaid… my prediction is that unless the Eagles get good value, he is on the team this year, and we have this conversation next year again, and at that point he will be traded or get a team friendly restricted deal.

        • GEAGLE

          We are def hearing some truth and a whole lot of Crap…trying to figure out what’s what will just drive us crazy…the ONLY part I can’t possibly believe is true is that we would cut him with out being compensated…everything else, is probably in play, but we are hearing exaggerated versions of it

  • Honest_T

    I think everyone is losing sight of the fact that Kelly still doesn’t have his guys on the roster. Most of our line-up on both sides of the ball was inherited, and while there are a lot of excellent pieces to work with, he is clearly prioritizing where he wants to upgrade.

    I know it’s popular to hate him now, but I for one am on the edge of my chair waiting to see what move they make next. BTW, he was courting Geagle when he said “here’s a list of OLBs, here’s a list of corners.”

    • cliff henny

      that’s cause he sleeps with the WR tapes under his pillow.

    • GEAGLE

      Lol I hate corners

  • cliff henny

    what did we learn…absolutely nothing. except Eagles’ fans can find anything and everything to argue over, even when we 99% agree.

    • Eagles1018

      I totally disagree. Do you even know what you’re talking about?

      Eh? Eh?

      • cliff henny

        haha, wanna argue over a hypothetical BS toss out number? 98% instead of 99%

        • Eagles1018

          Definitely 99. Where are you getting your facts from dude??

  • GEAGLE

    We need DL bodies, wonder if we sign Pat Sims 6’2 310lbs 28yrs old to a one year deal that doesn’t guarentee him a roster spot….Terrence Cody is still out there

    • oreofestar

      Or you can get my boy Kony in the draft and play him on the line in some f our packages

      • GEAGLE

        Kony is an edge rusher..I’m talking two gappers

        • oreofestar

          Oh how about your boy Ellis

          • GEAGLE

            Love him…but even if we sign a FA DL who we don’t guarentee a roster spot to, I still think we will take a DL at some point in the draft

        • anon

          I think you can find 2-gappers later as long as they have long arms to shed blocks. Any position where getting to the QB isn’t a priority i feel like any scrub can play as long as he spends all of his time in the weight room.

          • GEAGLE

            I was never asked to two gap at any level..it was always single gap schemes so I can’t really speak on it

  • GEAGLE

    Sheil…I def feel you that he just isn’t going to be an eagle next year, but don’t sleep on them trading him after the draft for 2015 picks, if they don’t like the compensation being offered before the draft…fortunately we owe him no money until September, so it’s not like they HAVE to just unload him before the draft…

    • oreofestar

      I do not think they will trade him picks next year, I think the reason Desean (and others) is being dipped it trade talks is not because of Desean himself but rather because the Eagles hate only having 6 picks in this loaded draft and want to find a way to get more, so I think they are looking to get more and BG aint getting them good picks so they are testing out what Desean’s market and if Desean does not get them picks this year they will just keep going with him

      • aub32

        I think you make a good point. Coming out and guaranteeing DeSean will be on the roster does nothing for the Eagles. Allowing speculation to continue will undoubtedly prompt more phone calls and perhaps a higher and more acceptable price for DJax. Also, I can picture Howie saying, “Sorry, but your 3rd is too late in the round for us to trade you DeSean, but can I interest you in a Guard?….Perhaps a DE or TE?

        • cliff henny

          the old bait and switch! Jax to rich for your blood, how about a 6th for Smith or Benn?

          • aub32

            Exactly! No other player on this team is going to bring in inquiries like DeSean. Once GMs are on the phone Howie can hit them with the old….”DJax is not the player you’re looking for.” Next thing you know Bryce Brown is traded for a 5th.

          • cliff henny

            i’m here to see about that brand new shiny WR you are selling for a 4th? oh, guy right before me put it on layaway…yeah, guess while i’m here i’ll look thru your other inventory.

          • Cyrus Robinson

            Upvote for the Star Wars jedi mind trick reference.

          • GEAGLE

            What are we doing with Benn? Guess keeping him to take a look In camp?…no one will ever trade anything for him again until they see him make it thru a season, so I figured we would cut him. But if he can make a comperable comeback to Maclin, he could sneak onto our roster…

            What ever happened to Phillip Hunt?

          • oreofestar

            Yeah we do not have tradeable assets besides well important players, BG is not worth more than a 5th and that may be generous, Curry is someone we like wouldn’t trade him anyway Barkley will not get you much more than a 6th which you should just keep him for in that case and then you go to DJAX and others because they may be worth something

    • cliff henny

      oh man, that would set off storm. one thing to move on from Jax, another to wait a year to see the returns. hard to believe someone wont drop at least a 3rd/6th combo for him. Jets and Oak seem desperate enough, think Howie’s just waiting them out. letting media linking rumors all over the place do his work for him, while Jets/Oak end up negotiating against themselves.

      • oreofestar

        I am not so sure I think there is a 54.5% chance he stays with us

        • cliff henny

          Howie/Kelly have done great job making situation so cloudy, he could get traded, cut, stay, restructured, or whole new contract…I have no idea, doubt any other team does either.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah that’s rough for sure….but GMs are treating this years draft picks like uncut diamonds..

        manziels pro day is today, all this damn attention for Doug Flutie junior? #BUST

        • oreofestar

          Manziel is tricky for me it is easy for me to say bust but tis kid could be coached up into a good player he had athletic ability and underrated arm strength I still think he is the 3rd best QB in the class I have him going 8th to the Vilkes

          • GEAGLE

            His ceiling is Big Ben…only he is tiny! won’t be able to take the pounding! can’t play from the pocket, and his arm strength is in question…..I don’t see him having a good career at all
            ..
            Whether it’s because he won’t be able to run an offense on this level, or due to injury, I don’t see him having a good care at all…just don’t get why anyone would even draft him before the 4th round of this draft class

            His Moxy and improvisation will win his team a few games in crunch time, I just can’t see how he can sustain success at this level with his skill set….if I didn’t buy the RG3 hype when people were talking about MVP during his rookie year, how can I possibly buy Manziel as a franchise QB?

          • oreofestar

            I think Manziel has a high ceiling and low floor but like you said in crunch time he can make the best out of nothing and win games also Manziel never seemed to have real injury problems he has pretty good arm strength but lacks ideal poise and footwork but that can be coached, I see Manziel as a healthier Vick for better or worse

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            manziel def has a gun. check out the stat comparison to him and the other qbs. as far as the yards passing. and not YAC. The kid has a LIL laser…his throws get there. I watched bridgewaters workout and it looked like akili smiths…not really but I wasn’t impressed. and neither were the experts. its about system I guess. I expect manziel to blow it up today. throwing accurate strong and on time.

          • Token

            When you have a instinct to run with bodies around you, you are more than likely gonna fail in the NFL. And he has a average arm IMO. Good enough but nothing great.

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            decision making def. needs to be better. but who else on that team did he have unless he and Mike didn’t make a play. I mean he could only do so much. but I get what you are saying. be nice to see him with Josh Gordon and give Cleveland something to play for

          • GEAGLE

            Just telling you what scouts are questioning right now..Many are worried about his ability to “drive the ball” at this level, atleast that’s what I hear recently…Texas A and M doesn’t have anyone I like on defense, so I haven’t watched him as much as most people…just going mostly by recent talk I’m hearing….if a player isn’t on a team with a defender I think the eagles will like, then the only time I probably get to see that player is when he is playing against a defender I like….

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            got ya

          • GEAGLE

            I try not to disagree with people and get debates over players I haven’t seen enough of for myself just going off what I hear..when you see me arguing to the death over a player, it means I don’t care what experts say, I have seen enough of the kid for myself to like him and have my own opinion on him…Obviously when I really like a player in October, like Moncreif, I will check my opinions with that of experts in case I’m missing something….but if I’m crazy about a kid I spent a lot of time watching, and scouts and analysts like Cossell go to bat for a kid, then I go all in. If I loved a kid like Moncreif! and I can only find positive opinions from the people I respect like “steal” “most under rated player in the entire SEC”, “Josh Gordon/Damryious Thomas type”…Then yea, that’s a dude I will want…

            Sure I wish his hands were bigger, and already was a great pass catcher like ODB…but I doubt Desean is getting traded because his hands are too small, and he has been about as sure handed as I could ask for….half the great WRs in the history of the NFL came into the league with questions about their hands..just like RBs come into the league with some fumbling problems, or blitz pickup issues…

            if your coaches suck, then yeah you probably should go get one of the most polished and NFL ready players in the draft…but when you see your coaches correct so many players flaws in one offseason, then yeah I’d rather swing for the fences and look for probowl upside…

            Talk to me about limitations that aren’t correctable..if the biggest question marks are hand size, which at his size may not be the ideal

          • GEAGLE

            Celeks hands sucked the last two years of Andy…look how reliable he was last year.
            .
            Ertz had questionable hands too this time last year, that never was an issue on Sundays
            ..
            Questionable hands? Stick a JUG machine in his living room…problem solved…
            ..
            Of course his Charecter, desire, coachable, commitment has to check out..but if they do, then I want someone with serious upside..the type of upside that we would NEVER pay for in free agency..we All know we ain’t signing stars, if we go with the safe picks, we will never get the game changers fans are clamoring for…and it’s obvious those stars aren’t coming as free agents

          • GEAGLE

            And we should be happy that he isn’t polished or that he doesn’t have the best hands yet..because guess what? With out those question marks, we would NEVER have a shot at drafting him because he would go in the top 13…so thank you unpolished routes and questionable hands..I like my chances of Chip turning that kid into a WAR Horse!! Assuming the Charecter we covet is there

          • oreofestar

            Yeah ODB is someone we probably could get I made a lost of guys above and I think he could be there and be great for us

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            ESPN’s Bill Polian on Johnny Manziel: “Arm strength is absolutely not an issue.” Says Manziel has stronger arm than Bortles & Bridgewater.

          • Adam G

            I will take Cosell over Polian every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            how many championships does Cosell have?

          • Adam G

            Just because he got lucky with Manning? Guy is an old has been. Check his recent record against Cosell’s then get back to me.

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            was just a question. I really didn’t know the answer. I like Cosell. think he is a great analyst.

          • Adam G

            Cosell has 0 because he’s worked for NFL films while Polian got fired for drafting horrendously.

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            my bad if I got back to you too quickly. im checking the record now…be right with you

          • Adam G

            And record as in opinions on prospects. Cosell has always worked for NFL films, Polian is a has been who got fired for drafting really really poorly. His opinion basically means 0 to me.

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            Bill Polian was the GM for 3 of the 4 Buffalo Bills teams that went to the superbowl. 3 consecutive times with him as GM. that’s not bad

          • Adam G

            Yes, but that was over 20 years ago. Look to see why he was fired. People get old and become less sharp. Al Davis was once one of the brightest minds in football.

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            As GM of the Panthers he took a team in only its 2nd year of existence to the NFC Championship game.

          • Adam G

            And why was he fired by the Colts?

          • Brent E. Sulecki

            I have no clue. for leaving to go to INDY? and drafting Peyton Manning. Edgerrin James. and Reggie Wayne? 2 out of 3 H.O.F. and getting Jeff Saturday? Dwight Freeney? Robert Mathis? Dallas Clark?

          • Adam G

            You can talk all you want about his success 15, 20 years ago. The guy got fired for being a horrendous drafter at the end of his career, it happens. People get old and less sharp. Some of the stuff he says now actually is nonsense. Some of his later drafts he completely whiffed. Here you go, this lays it out:

            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1007781-jim-irsay-fired-bill-chris-polian-for-bad-decade-of-drafting/

          • Ark87

            could we call him Lil’ John?

          • GEAGLE

            Better then calling him “football” that’s for sure…at best he is Johnny “pee wee football”

          • cliff henny

            I was really liking him till the bowl game. some thought it was a great performance, guess for college it was. but, as audition tape for NFL, man, he plays like that be scrapping up pieces like in road runner cartoon. seemed once pressure started, everything he gained during season, and he did improve throwing from pocket, went right out the window and he was back to street balling. I was entertained, but was thinking ‘thank god for Foles, this guy is reverting to bad habits”

          • GEAGLE

            Can’t disagree with a word….impressive athlete, dude was dunking his ass of ..kinda feel bad that he wasted it being another TEBOW..dude should have been a short stop or pt guard or something with that athleticism

          • oreofestar

            I think Manziel is way better than Tebow he actually has a good arm needs better touch yes improvement on poise and footwork too but he has talent, a good arm and a knack for making plays I am not sure about Manziel but I dont wanna say he is just gonna be a bust he has potential to be a good player

    • Ark87

      I wonder if we could get a first in change in next years draft. With a record number of underclassmen going into the draft this year, in theory couldn’t that sap the talent out of next year’s draft a bit?

      • oreofestar

        Not exactly because you got reshirts and all of these sophmores that will come out next year

        • Ark87

          that’s if the record number of underclassmen that came out this year becomes the norm. Basically we know the number of talented seniors should be down next year (a lot of them came out this year), if underclassmen don’t again come out in record numbers to fill the gap, it could be a down year. Not to mention you have to wonder if the number of busts and bad picks will be going up as the average age of prospects go down. Less film to scout, etc. Example: Barkley as an underclassman: High 1st round pick, Barkley as a Senior: exposed a bit and dropped to the 4th round.

    • aub32

      I don’t think it would make much sense to trade him after the draft. The only players traded after the draft during the offseason are guys struggling to make the roster. If Jackson makes it past May 10, he will be an Eagle throughout 2014.

  • oreofestar

    Players that I would not mind taking at 22

    Calvin Pryor
    Haha Clinton-Dix
    Justin Gilbert
    Dequeze Dennard
    C.J. Mosley
    Anothony Barr
    Khalil Mack
    Dee Ford
    Kony Ealy
    Jadeveon Clowney
    Eric Ebron
    Marquis Lee
    Sammy Watkins
    Kelvin Benjamin I guess
    Mike Evans
    Odell Beckham Jr.

    Factor in that 2-4 QBs will be taken ahead of us probably 3-5 OL, a DT or 2 like Donald, Nix or Jernigan and then the random reach picks you have to factor in like who know Cooks or Fuller or something so I believe it is fair to say about 4 of these guys should be there when we pick leaving many options

    • Richard Colton

      I’ll subtract: Dennard (wouldn’t 100% hate a corner, just don’t think he’s what we’re looking for, and doubt we take a CB 1st round), Lee (just don’t like him)

      I’ll add: OTs Lewan, Robinson, Martin, Matthews – I mean, if you have Watkins and Mack on your list – two guys who will probably go top five, then you can account for the possibility of a top rated lineman falling to us.

      On my “bubble” would be Marcus Smith, Attaouchou, KB, and Su’a Filo. I’d prefer them in trade down scenarios, but wouldn’t absolutely hate them as picks.

      • Token

        You keep bringing up offensive lineman and ruining my days. Its a depressing thought.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          So really it’s just the status quo for you, given that every day is a bad for you where the Eagles are concerned.

        • Richard Colton

          Well, if you draft for talent – you’re filling next year’s need. If you draft for need, you’ll always be chasing.

          We both like the round one WR option I think, don’t we Token? If you go into week one with Jackson/Maclin/Cooper, your 1st round receiver isn’t starting. Same possibility exists with your round one or two OT/G.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Please don’t tell me that you said rd 1 Guard Colt??

            To me that’s like saying, “We talkin bout practice? Not da games, but practice?”

          • Richard Colton

            Yea – like I always say. My preference as a fan and as a guy who likes instant gratification on draft night is a round one WR or ROLB.

            But let me throw two possible scenarios at you and you tell me what you think. A) Lewan falls to Dolphins at #19 – Eagles land Zach Martin OT/G at #22 B) Eagles trade down to #32 picking up an extra 2nd rounder and draft Su’a Filo

            Be honest -would either upset you?

  • aub32

    I hope McCoy doesn’t start asking for more money.

    • oreofestar

      the way running backs are getting paid now a days you do not have to worry but if someone offers a 5th watch out

  • hrtak

    Mathis + our 3rd rd pick for Dion Jordan? :)

    • oreofestar

      Mathis is a guard at 33 who does not have much of a market and Dion creates a ton of dead and the only way we get Dion is if we take Wallace’s ugly ass contract which aint happening

  • oreofestar

    I had issues with Dee and LB before but I have warmed up a bit to the idea f taking Ford

    • Tom w

      Too short. Horrible against run. Second rounders much more likely.

      • oreofestar

        Yeah I am not a huge fan and would rather have KVN, Attaochu or Smith round 2 but I have gone from being against Dee to just feeling okish about him but yeah I would prefer a guy like Ealy

        • Tom w

          Ealy is more of a 4-3 d end … Not overly athletic like I bet chip wants. Saw the eagles trying to work out the 6 6 d end from West Virginia out at olb during proday and looked good … Would be a nice steal in the fourth round. At this point im just hoping chip atleast spends half the picks on defense

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That’s Will Clarke. He is a leader, physically imposing, highly coachable and a blue collar worker. I like his overall potential as an under the radar guy that could very well prove to be a very good pro. Both he and Marcus Smith are my favorites. I prefer blue collar guys that put the work in but show you flashes of greatness. Those are guys that have a solid base with which to work with and it’s just a matter of tapping that greatness potential & fine tuning their game.

            I want no parts of Ford & would rather pass on Attaochu or Ealy, but wouldn’t be totally bummed if we did end up with them.

        • GEAGLE

          Think we would absolutely love Demarcus Lawrence from Boise, but he is a true WARRIOR not a Soldier which is what we really want…bet he would be high on our list If it weren’t for Charecter…4 or 5 suspensions doesn’t scream Chip Kelly player to me

      • Token

        Hes certainly up there in the conversation of best pass rusher in the draft. You get past those top two guys and then your down to Barr and Ford. Id take either one.

        Honestly, I could kinda care less if the guy is great against the run. Just dont really care. Thats how dire our pass rush situation is IMO. They just need to get the most disruptive rusher they can. If God Kendricks takes the step everyone thinks he will then there should be enough players to help against the run. Especially if it stays a 2 gap system.

        • aub32

          Somebody call 9-1-1. Token just mentioned Kendricks without putting bum or sucks in the same sentence. Upon a second reading I think he may have even given him credit. It’s worst than I thought. Somebody go get help!!!

          • Richard Colton

            think he may have been being sarcastic with “God” but i’ll take it from Token.

      • GEAGLE

        He won’t be ready to play the run, set the edge in 2015, and we will need more then a pass rusher by then if we want to get Coles contract off our books so I don’t view him as someone we will want at 22

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Plus as I’ve mentioned numerous times, Ford has had his success almost exclusively rushing from one spot. That being the left side, hand in the dirt every time and going up against RTs. Zero run awareness…ZERO. Just shoots too far upfield & bang the RB slips right through.

        I don’t want a guy that is too far superior on one skill and completely lost in another. I’d rather take a guy that shows ability in more aspects of his game & hone them in. That’s why I like either Barr (if within reach), Smith, even Clarke. Maybe Ealy, but I don’t see him as the high prospect he’s made out to be. If I don’t see it on tape, in games, I’m personally skeptical. Ealy just looks like a guy where his talent potential & drive aren’t quite in sync. He’s the polar opposite of Barr who you can see is supremely gifted and lives to make plays in the backfield. Barr’s just lacking strength, coaching and play discipline & the question is can it all be out together. But I definitely like Ealy over Ford, 10Xs over. I just do not like Ford for this defense at all!

  • Tom w

    Chip probably talked more than he has since he arrived in Philly. A couple pts I learned from listening to the hour:

    1) djax is still attainable by any team for the proper price.

    2) Kelly feels we need more pass rush

    3). Boykin isn’t going outside

    4) he likes our corners

    5) maclin may have a future here

    6) he likes players w great work ethic including Jason Mathis Todd maclin demeco celek peters

    7) he hadn’t heard about Mathis report

    8) want competition for backup qb spot

    9) prodays another time to check out pkayers and silly not to take advantage

    10) defense will get better based on comfort in roles in yr 2.

  • GEAGLE

    YES!!! Joel Embiid is entering the draft,,,I was worried wiggins would come out and Parker and Joel stay in school….FANTASTIC NEWS!!!

    • oreofestar

      HMMMM so gotta wait for Andrew too we gotta have one of them!

      • cliff henny

        Wiggins is going to be really good in pro’s. think Kansas was about the worst school he could of gone to after watching how they used him. draft and hang out with AI for a year, need that kid to soak up some selfishness. 6 shots, dude should be jacking 20 a game.
        .
        that 2nd jump of his is basketball porn to me, man is that sexy!

        • oreofestar

          Wiggins will be nice worried about the Pelican’s pick a little though, I am hoping in case we do not get the first that Jabari comes out

          • cliff henny

            found MCW with 11th, to me it’s a free player. after top 3, exum only know by rumors, cant get Vonlah or Gordon, then just have to hope Hinkie can continue to out-Hinkie everyone.

          • oreofestar

            Watch a Thad. Young trade lol

          • Adam G

            Huge game tonight for the Bucks, they are actually favored against the Lakers. If they win, Sixers could have worst record, which would be huge.

          • cliff henny

            yeah, why’s espn dumptrucking hate on sixers losing streak but ignoring that bucks are still worse?
            .
            and Cuban talking about NFL becoming hogs…does he realize that 75% of league has no chance at title before tipoff of 1st game. they have worthless 1st round of playoff series, play about 30 too many games, and in east it’s actually about 80, because everyone knew after a week it’ll most likely be pacers vs heat.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I watched the MIA/IND game last night. Even though that’s the one of the best matchups in basketball, it was a clear reminder of why I hate what Stern did to the NBA. It’s become one big roll of Cottonelle.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I’m not a fan of today’s NBA. It’s changed so much in past 10yrs that it’s hardly recognizable of the game I loved as a kid from the 80s-90s.

          • cliff henny

            yeah, why i’m not terribly concerned about pelicans pick. say it’s 11th, with thad get to 8. 10th with thad, get to 8. if 7th, with thad, get to 6th. the worse the team, the less value thad would have. see his value being very relative. just cant let them get lucky with pingpong balls.

          • Tom w

            Wiggins and vonlah is the dream scenario. Wait for hinkie to use those twos and cap space to get back in the late first

          • cliff henny

            oh yeah, Philly is going to be the home for the old broken down players with awful garbage contracts for next 2 or 3 yrs. while Hinkie racks up 10 deep of guys who can tie their shoes without bending over and run/press East into the ground.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Don’t let AI take him to his school of financial management

          • cliff henny

            been starving philly fan too long, couldn’t care less about those things. that’s their time…all I care about is on the court and stay out of jail, mostly so they can stay on the court.

    • cliff henny

      they’ll all come out. why would anyone stay? hopefully they all watch Marcus Smart lose 10m on back end of pro career for nothing.

    • Tom w

      It’s all hawes fault. He misses that turn around 3 against the bucks and we tied w them. Still don’t see embiid or Parker going first. We need the top pick to land wiggins w embiids back issues

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      I hope Parker stays, for selfish reasons. Pairing him with two top 5 players plus the 2nd ranked shooting guard. I can already picture Coach K’s 5th next April.

  • rluderitz

    Regardless of the realities of the Jackson situation, I don’t think anyone should pay too much attention to what Chip has to say at these press events. It’s becoming clear that he has little time for media questions and likes to play cat and mouse.

  • Bird of Prey

    If one thing is true, it’s that Chip loves to screw around with the media. I believe Nick Foles was proclaimed the starter the last game of the regular season(too lazy to double check that one). My point is, I don’t see a trade deal getting done because his value drops as the speculation that he’ll be cut grows. He is one of the most dangerous receivers in the game, but letting this story go so long may be hurting his value. So they may not cut him at all, or trade him, or they keep him after they’ve made their point. What ever their plans are, it sure looks like they’re having fun watching everyone squirm.

  • GEAGLE

    No surprise. Chip is at A and Ms pro day

    • cliff henny

      with bag ass duffle bag…tomorrow’s headline ‘Evans missing’

      • aub32

        Any chance that after Evans goes missing that we bring Momah back, but for some reason he has a very odd likeness to Evans.

        • anon

          he’s already back i don’t know why. he’s softer than a down pillow but has hands like bricks. look at him then look at desean. Sean gives up probably 10 inches but i bet he can out catch momah any day of the week. disgusts me that momah is back.

          strike against djax is he doesn’t fit chip’s measurables.

          • Brazilnut

            Why would it disgust you that hes back? Hes a young player that could be good if he gets his stuff together, and the cost/risk is virtually nothing.

        • cliff henny

          My sources tell me it’s other way around. Kelly has hired tattoo artist and remover, like Face-off…Momah is being turned into Evans and Evans will become Momah

  • Fly High

    I don’t think ” Kelly is calling the shots is exactly true.” Both from Kelly and the front office’s description of their process, and even from stories of how things got done at Oregon, I think that what happens is the major players come into a room, lay their thoughts out on the table, listen to one another fully, and come to some kind of consensus. I think Kelly’s opinion carries great weight, but does not necessarily dominate. I think for those of use to being organization where someone has to be king have a hard time describing this. From everything I have read, this is more of a consensual type of decision making process, which usually means those involved are more interested in winning than being right, so they listen to others in their areas of expertise.
    I do not think Kelly says, “I want this guy” and then Roseman says, “he is making too much, he has to go.” But what may happen is Kelly says, ” I really like Jackson (or whoever) and Roseman says, “At his salary level, we will have to give up someone else we want for him, and it mean that other guys want higher salaries, do you think he is worth it or do you think he’s replaceable?” And Kelly says, ” I like him, but he is replaceable”.