Vick Weighs In On DeSean Jackson

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ORLANDO, Fla. — Michael Vick
provided some interesting comments about the DeSean Jackson situation on Tuesday.

During his appearance on Mike & Mike, Vick was asked why the Eagles might be looking to move on from the 27-year-old receiver.

Chip Kelly is a leader. I think you have to know Chip Kelly to understand what kind of person he is,” said Vick.”DeSean is not a bad person by any stretch, but I think certain organizations want things done a certain way. DeSean is a very productive player and everybody has a lot of respect for him but at the end of the day, Chip Kelly’s decision and what he’s going to do is his decision.”


Kelly reached out to Jackson Monday night. Whatever the head coach said prompted Jackson to post a positive message about it.

All other signs in recent weeks have been pointing  Jackson towards the exit signs.

"Who knows why internally. I don't sit in on the conversations with him and the GM [Howie Roseman] and the other coaches. But I know DeSean is very dynamic and the entire league loves what he brings to the table, but maybe we see something that Chip doesn't see," said Vick. "I don't question. If it does happen for DeSean, it's something that he has to embrace and something that he may have to learn from, depending on whether he wants to leave or not. Regardless, I'm going to support him. He's always been a great friend of mine and a great football player and I think highly of him."

Roseman, during a half-hour session with the local media on Monday, did not refute the trade rumors, only saying, "He’s still under contract. For us, until there’s anything to report on our players, that’s where we are right now.”

Kelly will sit down with reporters for an hour Wednesday morning as part of the NFC Head Coaches Breakfast here at the owners meetings.

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  • Will

    DeSean Jackson association with the crips gang I think is the reason behind the Eagles wanting no part with the Star WR. Plain and simple this is a very serious character flaw. DeSean might want to think about the people, and places he hangs out with in his free time.

    http://profootballzone.com/nfl/desean-jackson-continues-throw-crip-gang-signs-photo/

    • Ark87

      Possibly a business move for his rap career…street cred…or possibly little man’s syndrome. In a league of big tough guys, Jackson isn’t very imposing, doesn’t get a whole lot of respect. Throw some gang signs at the other players to mess with them. Regardless of how deep the affiliation is…it’s best not to associate at all. It’s hard to get out of it once you’re in. Makes you plenty of enemies too, getting robbed is pretty pleasant relative to typical gang activity.

      Coming from Vick, you can’t help but think of how he himself had to cut ties with his crowd to reclaim his life.

      • TripSquadMonopoly

        Mentally hes still 22 still obsessed with whats cool that’s why hes posting on twitter and instagram all day long. But you gotta take the good with the bad with this guy he has yet to let it affect the football.

        • Ark87

          That much is true. Every time you doubt the kid…don’t give him the money he wants, he will loaf…played hard in 2012 and 2013. Uh oh. he has a pretty big passion for producing rap that you hope doesn’t conflict with football…came into camp last year extremely focused. Except for 2011 and a few yearly knucklehead antics, he shows up and plays hard with a competitive edge. He keeps himself in tip-top shape too. Just runs go routes all day in the up-tempo offense. Strictly in football terms, he has earned the benefit of the doubt I think.

    • Richard Colton

      He’s what we call in gang circles – a “wannabe.” No real gang affiliation whatsoever.

      Honestly – he needs a little street creed after standing next to Donovan during the air guitar incident (aka – the least “gangster” thing to ever happen in the city of Philadelphia).

      • knighn

        It’s great to look at this picture now. DeSean’s looking at Mike like “WTF?!” and Vick is hanging his head and thinking, “I’m trying to rehab my image and I’m stuck here with this clown.”

        • Richard Colton

          that’s my favorite part. Mike can’t even look up he’s so embarrassed.

          • knighn

            Someone needs to show Nick Foles this photo and explain to him, “Nick. You don’t do this s***… ever, but especially not before a playoff game!”
            I’m hoping Nick already knows.

      • RIP illa

        Have never been so embarrassed to be an Eagles fan than on that day. Smh. Was watching with like 10 of my friends at the time!!! Nothing but uncomfortable silence cuz they didn’t wanna trounce on my enthusiasm for that game.

        • Andy

          Nobody would remember this if the Eagles hadn’t gone out and gotten absolutely STOMPED by the Cowboys right after. Just brutal.

          • RIP illa

            Air guitar – Never Forget!!!

          • Andy

            That was his last game as an Eagle IIRC. Bizzarre back-to-back beatings from the Cowboys.

          • GEAGLE

            Believe me, I couldn’t forget the air guitar if I tried…worms had a rough night

      • RIP illa

        Love how Vick has his head down, in what can only be shame, and DJax is looking over like, ‘man what the F are you doing McNabb’!

      • Warhound

        Still gives me douche chills!

    • 76mustang

      Personally, I don’t see how this isn’t being decried by the media and DJax’s teammates. How is this so different than RC’s drunken N-word rant? Is it culturally acceptable in the black community to post gang signs on your social media outlets? And if your argument is it’s just fingers making a sign, then you should be okay with Hitler mustaches, Confederate flags, KKK hoods, and various other excuses for hate and separation. Families and entire communities have been adversely impacted by gangs for decades.

      • Richard Colton

        Slow down – we do not call Reily Cooper “RC.” Don’t want folks getting confused.

        • GEAGLE

          Better then being confused with “CM”..

          • Richard Colton

            that will never happen.

          • Andy124

            That’s exactly what CM would say…

        • 76mustang

          I thought you went by tRC (if not, then you should)? Not trying to mislead with unsubstantiated rumors or anything…

    • Andy124

      This has all been orchestrated by the Crips. See, Les Bowen, or L-Bow as he now likes to be called, contacted his BFF DeSean for help establishing his street cred for the sake of his floundering rap career. DeSean approached his friends in the Crips, who he became close with during his anti-bullying efforts and various church related activities, for help.

      The Crips gave a listen to L-Bow’s Droppin’ ‘Bows On ‘Em single and agreed to help, on one condition. He’d have to trade in his journalist credibility for street cred. Being located out west, they had no idea that Les had traded in his journalist cred for clicks long ago. Naturally, he agreed with a gleam in his eye. That’s when they hatched the plan to dupe the rest of the media and fans into believing that the Eagles would trade their best WR in generations.

      Now DeSean’s no dummy. He knew he’d have to get the Eagles brass on board. When they approached Chip with the idea, he was all for it due to his disdain for the media. Howie hesitated, but Chip said jump, so he jumped. Lurie was about to put the kabosh on the whole enterprise until L-Bow agreed to sell him the movie rights of this tale on the cheap. It was actually Chip’s idea to throw in contradicting reports about he and DJ talking.

      So, now L-Bow has issued all kinds of conflicting reports proving that his sources are not to be trusted and the Crips have been convinced that he’s lost all credibility. L-Bow’s street cred is soaring in the LA underground, surpassed only by the legendary lyricist Jaccpot himself. Time to let the fans off the hook at laugh at the egg on the faces of the media while L-Bow goes platinum. Don’t forget to download his latest hit;

      Pennies In My Loafers

      • GEAGLE

        Bwahahahagahaa “L-Bo” hahahahahaha hall of fame post!! Instant Classic

      • Richard Colton

        I’m printing this out and taping it to my computer

        • GEAGLE

          Email it to Roob, he will probably read it on air to chump worthLES l-bow

          • Andy124

            I’m reposting it under the latest Bowen article to see if I get his attention.

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahahaha you are the man!!

          • Andy124

            It truly is a den of scum a villainy over there. Only response I got was:

            Scalper3 Andy124•an hour ago

            I can’t believe you spent so much time writing something so dumb

            LOL

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahah what a bunch of lames

          • Richard Colton

            I just popped in to up vote Andy – you should see the cast of characters. It’s like turning the lights on in a bar in Kensington.

          • Andy124

            bar in Kensington!!! Lolololol

          • GEAGLE

            LOL. I honestly have no clue where Les even posts his articles, but I can easily picture what kind of fools read them

      • GEAGLE

        Crips refer to him often by his full name….”ashy L-Bow”

      • greenblood0118

        “Droppin Bows On ‘Em” is what got me rollin’…great stuff.

      • RIP illa

        This is the best thing in awhile. Laughed so hard. How we you ever gonna top this?

        • Andy124

          Won’t aim to top anything. Think of it as a farewell present. :) I’m about to be about as scarce as rob has been lately. I’ll either be a new boss or have a new boss. Either way, new person looking at internet usage, I’ll be ghost.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            farewell, good sir. this time of year, playing in the dirt is better than playing behind a keyboard. nothing to see until draft time.

    • Johnny Domino

      So then he’d have to go to the Giants, Bills or Pats, not the Chiefs, Niners or Falcons.

      Right?

  • Birds24/7

    Come on Will quit drinking the kool aid

    • Will

      I’m telling ya that’s what’s behind this and why they would go so far as cut him for no compensation…Character is first thing the Eagles value next to versatility….Come on the Eagles can’t have the highest paid player on the team promoting gangs in any shape or form not gonna happen and will not be surprised when DeSean is gone one way or the other…

      • hoboduck

        I do not want to seem like a know it all newbie to this blog, however I do know CK. The Chippster has very high morals and does not tolerate the thug mentality…..AT ALL. He invests his time by supporting quality people who fit his vision of a team. You must always remember that CK will always be the smartest guy in the room. I believe DJax reached out to CK and they had a little sit down. CK will not piss backwards on this issue because he knows that in the system he is creating can support any number of running backs or wide outs that become available.

        • GEAGLE

          “You know nothing Jon Snow” lol sorry, I couldn’t resist :) JK
          And welcome

          • hoboduck

            You’re forgiven…..I actually do not know very much at all.

          • GEAGLE

            Just a game of thrones reference..

  • jabostick

    2006 Michael Vick is reading this and saying “who is this thoughtful QB with good perspective and insight”

    • Septhinox

      Nah, he’s hearing it second hand (2006 Vick didn’t read) and laughing at the fool sucking up to “the man”.

    • Ark87

      Mike Vick is going to have one hell of a Biography to write when he hangs it all up.

    • cliff henny

      wish he was 23 not 33. imagine this guy coming into league, playing under kelly.

  • Lupo

    Jeff McLane
    ‏@Jeff_McLane

    8m

    Source close to situation said that DeSean Jackson has called a few #Eagles teammates and told them he’s staying after talk with Chip Kelly.

    • TripSquadMonopoly

      Wow how situations change…Took long enough for Chip to reach out. And the reports about Djac ducking Chips calls are such BS

      • jcwhy

        He had to reach out.. he has to talk to the media tomorrow.. makes it a lot easier to say, talked to DJax yesterday, he is getting ready for camp..

  • oreofestar

    I have Hope Desean!!! I need to start a campaign, I am flying to Orlamdo

    • cliff henny

      good day for you. and if you have a girlfriend, great day for her

      • oreofestar

        Great day,

        • cliff henny

          pop a viagra and dont forget the wheelchair and bag of ice, be considerate

          • oreofestar

            ….

          • GEAGLE

            Barry FInkle says…….
            DO IT!!!

  • GEAGLE

    Finally. A Desean thread!!!

  • Kev_H

    I’d be very happy if they kept him, because I like the recipe of continuity + a primary group of accomplished skill players in their mid-to-late 20s for 2014. Beyond that, keep whoever looks best in terms of production + fit + affordability between Maclin and Jackson after the season. We only get to keep one of those guys after this year and Jackson’s trade value is probably better today than it will be in 2015 and we’d get nothing for losing Maclin since he’s not under contract after 2014, so I can see why the Eagles are looking to deal now, especially going into a strong draft.

    For Jackson, his best bet is to put in 100% effort toward every professional task with the aim to play out his current contract. I don’t think there is a better financial alternative for him.

  • GEAGLE

    Interesting that Rotoworld still saying they can’t rule out a Dion Jordan trade ahead of mays draft…
    ..
    Did they cut LB Wheeler?
    ..
    Hard to give Dion snaps at DE ahead of Shelby and Wake
    ..
    Hard to give Dion snaps at LB if they keep giving big money to Ellerbe and wheeler, and Koa Misi is there best LB so he ain’t coming off the field

    • Richard Colton

      DeSean for Dion – then they can have 50% of their cap locked up in two blazing fast WRs. Won’t even need an O-line.

      • GEAGLE

        Lol wouldn’t put it past that franchise

        • Amar (India)

          Hated his guts after watching Hard Knocks (Dolphins)

          • GEAGLE

            I could barely stand his boring monotone voice for an hour long hardknock episodes. Good coaches make players run thru walls for them…that dudes speeches make players bang their heads against Walls…
            ….
            It’s like hiring speedy Gonzales’s retarded cousin “slow poke” to be your leader!! Wtf

  • GEAGLE

    Crap..McLane is the one tweeting that Desean called his team mates to tell him they are staying. Which means Desean really said his goodbyes

    • oreofestar

      This is great! Kelly just needs to commit to him tomorrow and seal the deal

      • GEAGLE

        YES!!! And FORCE teams to trade two 2nd round picks and a 5th for Desean :)

        • oreofestar

          Or…..keep him

          • GEAGLE

            Just screwing wit you…enjoy your day and bask in the glory of retaining your fav player…this media has put you threw enough

          • oreofestar

            Thank you, it has been emotional

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          And that’d be close enough to the Harvin haul that people shouldn’t even complain. If only…

  • Andy124

    One thing that I think got lost in the shuffle is that with how much of this has been driven by “sources” in DJs camp, DJ is a very emotional guy. So when a report says he feels like he won’t be back. It could be totally accurate in reporting his feelings, but that doesn’t mean his feelings make any sense whatsoever.

    We should be used to that kind of thing with Vick making minor PR misteps the last few years when he gets too emotional.

    • GEAGLE

      Very nice point

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      Um much of it was driven by “sources” in the Eagles org. All the initial reports came from there NOT DJ camp.

      • Joe from Easton

        She’s back! We really missed you.

        • GEAGLE

          It’s a she? OMG it makes total sense now…can’t believe I never realized it

          • Joe from Easton

            Hahahahaha

            Just a guess based on the avatar.

          • GEAGLE

            It has to be…makes too much sense. Welcome back sweetheart, you are just in time to meet my new friend aka the minimize button….POOF be gone!

          • Joe from Easton

            Reading some of her comments over on Philly.com… hasn’t changed; just left us alone. Constant passive aggressive Foles bashing and Vick loving.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol shocker…bet you her and Dutch eloped

          • Joe from Easton

            It’s pretty funny. This is a good break from the DJax saga.

        • GEAGLE

          Bet you her and Dutch eloped

          • Joe from Easton

            Now they are one behind the keyboard… Oh please please let her stay and illuminate all of us. I’m so board with this DJax talk that I need a good solid laugh.

          • GEAGLE

            MIKE VICK sucks and FOles is a walking Demi God!!!! Lol
            #Bait

          • Joe from Easton

            ^^^^ Troll Bait ^^^^ – Her and Dutch gotta eat.

          • GEAGLE

            I tweeted Mcnabb about how FOles was a walking Demi god, fly Folesy fly. Don’t think he was very amused

      • scarolina1

        NO, By sources in the MEDIA??????

      • Andy124

        If you want to put your fingers in your ears, sing *LaLaLa* and pretend that nothing came out of DJ’s camp that fanned the flames then that’s on you.

        If you want to misread my post like I’m saying DJ caused this whole thing, that’s on you too. Maybe because you haven’t read my other posts throughout this drama you have some preconceived, highly eroneous notion of where I stand on the matter that is coloring your interpretation.

        • Richard Colton

          Nothing’s going to make her feel better short of a “Jets trade Vick to Eagles for Foles” story. Maybe Sheil will spin one up as a kindness.

        • OldDocRoss

          I think it’s fair to say the early stuff was being leaked from the Eagles’ side, but everything about D-Jax being ::sadface:: obviously came from his camp and that’s when the brown stuff really started to hit the fan.

          Of course, that could’ve been avoided if they’d reached out to DeSean sooner so nobody really comes out of this looking great.

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          LOL.

          You need a hug?

    • OldDocRoss

      See, this is why waiting until now to contact DeSean makes zero sense to me. We know he’s an emotional guy and if rumours about his future are out there he’s going to get upset and bad times will follow.

      Personally I think there’s absolutely no question we’ve been looking to trade him but we botched it horribly, received lame offers and now we’re in damage control mode (which thankfully seems to be going pretty well).

      At least now I feel like we’ve made it seem very unlikely he’ll be cut and put a smile on DeSean’s face so the most likely outcomes now are keeping him or getting decent value in a trade. I still vote for the former, but after everything that’s gone on the last couple weeks I’d tolerate the latter.

      • oreofestar

        Me like the former..

      • Andy124

        I agree with all of that. Especially the first paragraph.

  • Mike

    Eagles may be just saying they want to now keep DeSean, to get better trade offers from teams that thought they will cut him…..they may still trade DeSean during the draft.

  • GEAGLE

    Kempski is going to get punched in the mouth. Better yet, get his twitter fingers broken..
    ..
    Wanna know how he responds to the Chip/Desean coombaya?….
    “#Leverage”
    ..
    F*n prick

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Lol. It’s a possibility.

      • GEAGLE

        I know, but I’m tired of his god damn possibilities…irresponsible hack

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Aren’t they all, here?

          • GEAGLE

            But he is king prick, all this over a raiders rumor…smh.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I still think he’s gone. I think all these tweets are to help his value, make people back off the questions of “why are they trading him?” I just think we, the fans, are going to get dragged through mud for another six weeks. At the very least, it f’s with the media.

          • GEAGLE

            I think it’s 50-50…if proper value is offered, yes he will be gone..but I no longer think it can possibly happen as soon as next week…after this, I would expect us to hold off til close to the draft to pull the trigger on a trade if the right offer is available

          • OldDocRoss

            You hold on to that Raiders rumour sir! Don’t let a complete lack of evidence or anything resembling logic get in the way!

    • cliff henny

      guy’s comic relief, and he’s good at it. not sure why anyone goes or worries about his opinion on a serious topic.

      • GEAGLE

        I hate that everyone retweets that Joke hacks crap so I see it

  • GEAGLE

    Of course. Now there has to be a thread made about the Desean calling his team mates to tell them he is staying…Desean mania will never end. Haven’t seen anyone get so much press since Richard Sherman..

    Please no more Desean rumors. PLEASE!!!

    Someone interview Jerry Azzinaro or something..

    • Token

      Oddly, you have no problem posting 100 times on each Desean thread.

    • Andy124

      I did. I asked him a lot of very intelligent and insightful questions ranging from his prefernces in defensive fronts, the hand techniques for DL, his tastes in wall lighting and what he thinks of L-Bow’s lyrics. His answer was always the same,

      MOAR VIOLENCE!!!

      • GEAGLE

        Lol Love that dude…reminds me of “The Lord of Bones” from G of T

        Especially the scene where he is trying to tell Jon Snow how to have sex lol

  • botto

    he’ll be traded

  • Weapon Y

    Still not 100% confident DeSean stays. Who knows what exactly Chip told him and whether DeSean interpreted it correctly? Hell, Chip might have told DeSean “we can’t trade you unless we get good value and that means we need to look like we’re not so desperate to get rid of you. Throw me a bone, dude.”

    • oreofestar

      I agree still 100% but what this means is one cutting is completely out the question as I always thought and also it means trade value will be higher and I think it will take something higher than anticipated to move him which may mean he just stays I say it is about 50-50 right now yesterday I would not have given us such favorable odds

      • GEAGLE

        If we keep Desean, we will have to put up with this same exact situation 365 days from now

        • JosephR2225

          But with a smaller dead money cap hit if released and Brandin Cooks or Odell Beckham waiting in the wings to take his job.

          • GEAGLE

            Imagine what the media will assume then…and since they don’t use real intel to write their “stories” I can’t imagine how much worse it can get

          • oreofestar

            My thing is if lets just say ODB since that is the guy most of us want, lets say he shows promise of being a number one and has 62 catches for 920 yards then you can feel comfortable with Sproles, MAC, ODB and Coop but until I see that number 1 wr ready to take over I can not be willing to let Desean go

          • Weapon Y

            What’s so great about ODB? I’d have a hard time believing he’ll be better than DeSean Jackson.

          • GEAGLE

            He is only going to be Randall Colbb with Steve smith toughness, he only set the combine on fire, is probably the most polished WR to come out, and has the best hands in the class….oh yeah, scary punt returner ..who cares about him?

          • oreofestar

            I got you man I like ODB A LOT!!! My favorite wr outside of Evans and Watkins who will be gone, I kinda like Benjamin would not mind him at 22 he could be a bust but has a VERY HIGH ceiling if coached well, Cooks not as big n as others I would not hate getting him though also Lee I feel the same, if we picked him I would not jump up and down but I wouldn’t be pissed also in the second your boy Moncrief or one of my faves Matthews or Adams or even Micrief or Landry if they get down to 3 but not Bryant

          • GEAGLE

            Depends what we want…Randall Colbb and Desean are very different WRs. If we are looking for someone like Desean! I think Cooks is our best bet…If we are looking for a Randall Colbb type who can run every route and make all sorts of catches, I think our best bet is OL Dirty Beckham…if we are looking for a Josh Gordon type, I would go with Moncreif

          • oreofestar

            I think Chip would love ODB get a tough wr who plays bigger than he is while still spreading the field just perfect but if he just wants an absolute huge beast then Benjamin makes sense also Lee too would not be horrible pick last year if you told me we would draft Lee I would be jumping now it is like whatever, to be honest if we are taking a wr first round it is between Cooks, ODB, Lee, and Benjamin an I would want them in the order of ODB, Benjamin, Lee, Cooks I just am not huge on Cooks especially at 22

          • GEAGLE

            Might not matter..hear Jets real high on Cooks at 18. Normally I don’t put much stock into reports like that, but Marty ain’t much of a pocket player, and with Rex as your HC, I think Marty prob has more influence on offense then he should

          • oreofestar

            I think of the wrs I mentioned probably 2 are there at 22

          • Weapon Y

            He’s a rookie so you’re taking a leap of faith on him. DeSean is a proven veteran who’s been consistently outstanding every year (yes even 2011). Who do you think I have more trust in?

        • juaniflaco

          I don’t like Benjamin – drops way too many passes. Would much rather have Penn State’s Allen Robinson he’s got size, great hands, great after catch ability (watch his highlights they’re incredible) Just looks NFL ready. Of course would be thrilled with ODB or Cooks too. Don’t think we have a shot at M. Lee or M. Evans

          • oreofestar

            Do not be surprised if Lee is the 4th or 5th guy picked I think he will be there at 22

          • cliff henny

            cant talk about all of them, about 25-30 guys depending on round that i’d be happy with. it’s wild how great this class is.

          • GEAGLE

            Where do you see me talk about Benjamin? Moncrief,ODB, Devante Adams are my guys

          • anon

            Jarvis Landry!! 3 drops all year! Handled a workload, gets first downs and RAC.

        • Kev_H

          Next year it would just be a straight up cut/salary dump. Either Maclin or Jackson gets a new deal. The other walks. No way they can pay Foles and keep both of them. Everyone knows it so no trade. That’s why they pushed (or are pushing) this year.

          • Adam G

            Foles has nothing to do with next year, they can just keep him on his salary, which will be his fourth year.

          • Kev_H

            Players and team’s are allowed to renegotiate a new deal after their third season. If Foles has any future with the Eagles, he will have a long-term deal in place prior to the 2015 season. If he doesn’t, the Eagles are going to have to give a vet at least the deal Vick got for 2013. Either way they have to pay a QB in 2015.

          • Adam G

            That’s tenuous. They don’t have to do anything. And they can also just extend like they did with Kelce. There’s no reason they HAVE to pay Foles in 2015.

          • Kev_H

            Okay Joe Banner. Technically you are correct but I’ve spoken to former GM’s and heard plenty of current ones on this issue and that isn’t how business is done. The QB isn’t Cooper or Kelce. You don’t let him finish his deal or put yourself in a position where you have to tag him.

            Whether it was McNabb, Kolb, or Vick, the Eagles have never let their QB twist in the wind regarding contract. They will aim to extend Foles ASAP. It’s a QB league and everything extends from stability at the position. Howie, Lurie, and Chip have all always been clear on that.

          • Adam G

            Like I said, they can just extend it. Learn your facts, Kelce was extended a year early. Former GMs huh? What are they saying about the Kaepernick situation? Pretty funny that you would even say you talk to former GMs.

          • Kev_H

            Did you stop reading at Joe Banner? There is the letter of the CBA and there is reality. They can let everyone play out their rookie deal and tag them, but you rarely see that.

            You are 100% correct regarding what they can do. You are 100% wrong regarding what they will do if you think they carry Maclin & Jackson and pay Foles like a scrub in 2015.

          • Adam G

            Again, I will spell this out for you one more time. They can extend him before the 2015 and setup the contract any way they want to so they can pay Desean in 2015, IF THEY WANT, while also paying Foles. As I said before, Kelce just got almost a 40 mil extension but his cap number for 2014 is only 2.6. Because Foles will be under contract for 2015, they have that leverage, just like in baseball.

          • Kev_H

            Kap is set to ink something in the neighborhood of $100 M/ 5 years. Baalke just said today he wants to get it done by July. Players want it all up front/guaranteed. Team can reduce the early cap hit to a degree with low base salary but that gives them less future flexibility if they have to bail on the player. For an example see what happened with Romo. They kept pushing off the cap figure and now they are stuck with him for good or ill for at least a few more years.

          • Adam G

            You’re really pointing out the obvious. Talking about checkers while I’m referring to chess. The niners have no space this year, so how do you think they are going to extend Kap? Do you think maybe the Eagles can do the same in 2015 with Foles? Come on man. Do you even know the difference between the types of guaranteed money? Figure your ex GM friends would’ve schooled you on that.

          • Kev_H

            The Eagles are the cap flexibility kings. The 49ers might have to push the cap hits back but that’s not how the Eagles have ever done it. See Vick’s big contract. They didn’t delay the cap figures and were able to get out of the deal in two years. Anyway, by your original premise, the 49ers wouldn’t be renegotiating w/ Kaepernick. They have him under contract and don’t have to do anything. Don’t move the goal posts on me. It appears you conceded that a new Foles contract WILL be a key priority next off season.

          • Adam G

            Man, you are all over the place. My whole point is that they can keep his salary low in 2015 and still get him extended. Foles is not the reason they would have to cut Desean after this season. Thats what we are arguing about. I pointed out the niners will extend Kap and keep his figure low. Do you even know that delaying guaranteeing money is a possibility? They can set up the contract any way they want if they want to keep Desean. Now if you want to talk about 2016, thats a different story. Go over your comments then get back to me.

          • Andy124

            I don’t have any numbers on this, so I’m just going off of vague memories and impressions, but it definitely seems like teams, especially the Eagles, always try to extend their promising rookies after that 3rd year so they don’t have to risk them going to FA.

            I would imagine the only way they don’t extend Foles next offseason is if he pulls a Flacco, which would surprise me a little.

            Before someone else feels the need to go there, it’s certainly possible that Foles has a mediocre year that leaves the team utterly unsure if he’s the man going forward or not. I also consider that to be unlikely. Opinions may vary.

          • Adam G

            Yeah, or they could just extend him and keep his 2015 salary the same.

          • Andy124

            They extend him, there’s going to be a signing bonus, and that’s going to count against 2015 even if his base salary stays the same. And there’s no reason to assume they’d agree to keeping the base the same.

            Maybe cliff can chime in on what’s typical for those second contracts.

          • Adam G

            I can let you know just as well as Cliff. Look at Kelce’s contract. His cap number for 2014 is only 2.6 mil. Bottom line is, they can extend Foles and keep it so they can pay desean as well in 2015. That contract is just an extension.

          • Richard Colton

            the salary cap throw down?!? Cliff’s going to eat your lunch AdamG. He’s gonna get all “cap-ologist” up in here.

            Joe Banner wears Cliff Henney pajamas. You’re in for a long day.

          • Adam G

            It isn’t rocket science.

          • cliff henny

            footies. chicks dig them

          • Kev_H

            It’s new territory. They used to be able to renew sooner. Foles plays anywhere near 2013 and team has success he gets paid. The longer you wait, you risk letting RGIII, Wilson, or Luck set an insane standard as they will get new deals too.

          • anon

            If his agent is worth anything he’s going to wait until those guys get paid anyway. Cap is going to set standard since he can renew earlier — all the other guys are going to want more than that. Cant hate on players wanting money, whether it’s QB or WR.

          • Kev_H

            If he flops they have to bring in and pay a vet QB Schaub money at least, so either way they can’t have it all at wr.

          • GEAGLE

            Rather lose Mac…that comes with a compensatory pick

    • mike

      I agree, they may trade DeSean at the draft.

    • Kev_H

      I think they gauged interest the last couple days, didn’t like what they saw and truly decided to stand pat. Now if one of the suitors was holding back and blows them away before or during the draft, he might get traded. They’re going to have to pay Foles next year and move on without either Maclin or Jackson. The best chance of getting something in return is still trading #10 this spring.

      I don’t have a problem if they have them all plus rookie wr this year and then just let one walk, because I think a special season is in store. But I understand if they want to turn the situation in to picks or a pick.

      No way coach and player collaborate on a ruse. There are too many ways that can go wrong which would obliterate reputation and credibility.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    meaning stop f’n around and do your job.

  • George

    http://instagram.com/p/l-T67huNgQ/ From DJAX’s instagram

  • Adam G

    Over on betfair they posted odds that you can bet on, of course only if you live outside the US. Its even money Desean gets traded or released.

  • Rj

    Am i the only one who sees ODB as a slightly more talented Jeremy Maclin coming out of college?

    • oreofestar

      I don’t I think if we talking about Maclin, Lee is the most Maclin like ODB is Randall Cobb,Steve Smith, Cooks is Desean, Benjamin is Alshon

    • RIP illa

      I could see why you would say that. But the kid has way better hands. And I’m down on Mac, but he is a solid player, so I don’t see how that’s a bad thing.

      • GEAGLE

        Tougher then Mac too

        • oreofestar

          So a faster, stronger Mac with good hands uuumm yes please

          • Andy124

            Sounds like G.J. Kinne to me.

    • Richard Colton

      ODB is a lot faster.

      Hey…dirty
      baby you scored a touchdown
      on that kickoff
      dirty

    • OldDocRoss

      Jeremy Maclin is pretty good, so a faster Jeremy Maclin with better hands is fine by me.

    • anon

      Lots of people in this draft with more upside than Mac and Coop (maybe even Djax) which is why i don’t understand why we locked them up so early.

      • Adam G

        Bird in the hand.

    • ztom6

      A more physical Maclin with better hands, speed, and leaping ability, sure

  • jon h

    After all of this, wouldn’t it be hilarious if we keep DeSean and pick up a pick from the Jets because of tampering? That would make all of this a worthwhile exercise.

    • oreofestar

      THAT would be great actually maybe a late one

  • jcwhy

    We could talk about the Eagles lack of addressing a kicker!!!! the outrage…

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  • Dilwala_G

    Two theories (both wild speculation – maybe I should become a full-time philly sports journalist :) – (1) most likely – Eagles didn’t want this to get picked up as early as it did, and then all the speculation has made a good trade hard to do, so they finally had Chip reach out as a way to improve their negotiating leverage; (2) even more wild speculation – Eagles have never had any interest in trading DJax but are doing something else they don’t want much media coverage for, so they have allowed this smokescreen/non-story to blossom by doing the one thing they knew would stoke the fires – saying “no comment” :)

    #2 is almost certainly untrue, but it would be fun to speculate as to what it would be that this desean smoke screen would be covering up – maybe a graham/curry trade?

    • GEAGLE

      No, I too get the impression that we are up to something..not sure what that is tho

      • Richard Colton

        Superbowl. that’s what.

        • GEAGLE

          Rhythms with Mike Jordan lol

    • JofreyRice

      #3, the plan hasn’t wavered, they’re goint o move on from Desean, but they’ve reached out to him and made it clear that the quickest way for him to a new contract, and guaranteed money, is to play nice and help leverage while they look for a trade partner his agent can negotiate with. If worst comes to worst, the Eagles will release him outright, and it’s his call to negotiate with whomever he wants as a FA. He wins either way, if he really just wants more money.

      Would suck if we straight out released him. Wouldn’t even get a comp pick, if he’s cut.

      • anon

        I honestly don’t understand the speculation. We’ll trade him if we can get fair value (in picks for this draft). If not he’s too valuable a player just to cut — it’s not like we’d do anything else with the money this year.

        Also a sign to DJax to get his head right, no pre-madonnas on the team.

        • Warhound

          …prima donna…

        • JofreyRice

          The speculation comes from the fact that there has been so much chatter about them moving on. It’s tough for me to dismiss all of that as baloney. I mean, it could be, but you have like 8 separate media outlets all citing different “sources” saying he was either done, or they’d release him, or whatever. I’m hoping it was all a bunch of hogwash, but I just don’t know.

  • Guest321

    Riley Cooper has taken the nickname Stans dad recieved after his Wheel of Fortune debacle. As for Vick, heck I hope he gets Desean up in NY so I can see a few jaw dropping highlights this season.

    • OldDocRoss

      If you’re looking for highlights I’m sure Sproles, Shady, Foles, D-Jax et al could oblige.

      • Guest321

        Yea but that wont give me the Djack to Vick connection highlights I miss!

        • OldDocRoss

          You’d probably only get four weeks of that before Vick went down, followed by 13 weeks of DeSean looking on forlornly as Geno fires pass after pass into entirely the wrong zip code.

          • Guest321

            Thats fine, I only want a couple. They are just a ton of fun to watch playing together in the same offense.

  • travis papa

    A walrus might be the most loyal animal in the wild. Reid was asked what he thought about the availability of djax to which he replied djax is not available to his knowledge and part of the eagles. Still toeing the company line. Nice.

  • GEAGLE

    Carrington signed with Rams…that officially means no veteran DL help is coming

    • anon

      I guess you were right — i thought we’d at least get a NT. Fankly, by coaches standards i think they really like those guys, there could obviously be improvement, but whatever. LB/DB obviously bigger issues.

      • GEAGLE

        Wasn’t that right…figured we would pounce on a potential cheap free agent steal like Carrington. But I am positive that we don’t have interest in traditional Monster NTs

    • cliff henny

      so sitting at 5, counting Kruger, right? Squares is no bueno. need more picks. com’on, something, anything for Brown and Graham.

      • GEAGLE

        Yup, lost Gaethers, squares shouldn’t make the roster because our NTs can’t get trucked by cowboys

        • cliff henny

          that was bad, was also 15 yd penalty. maybe try to do cut4cut trade. defense feels so thin, might just have to score 60

          • GEAGLE

            Yup..exactly what I was thinking…something like Damaris to KC or Jets for a DL they will end up cutting aka the Howie special

          • cliff henny

            brad smith and Benn are trade bait too. neither has dead money. Graham for a 6th, seems really needed.

          • GEAGLE

            Pathetic…hate BG right now..took him 13th, at one of the most valued positions where backups like Everson Griffin get 20mil in Gaurenteed dollars and we have to settle for a 6th for this prick while we are so desperate for picks that we may have to trade Desean……hate him right now

        • GEAGLE

          Basically, DL is a strength, yet it’s now one of our biggest needs also.. Smh

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    Kev and Adam are about to throw down. Cripple Fight!!!!!

    • cliff henny

      put on the hat, Timmy!

  • GEAGLE

    Bruglar is Mocking Moncrief to the browns with the 3rd pick in Round 2..,by the time rolls around, he will be worth the 22nd pick in the draft…I wouldn’t want the midget Cooks, Lee, or KB over him,..

    He mocked us Roby in the 1st
    Clemsons OG Brandon Thomas in the second….smh
    ..
    Mocking the draft has Demarcus Lawrence Boise OLB going 22 to the Eagles…dude was suspended like 5 times, doesn’t sound very chipish to me, but a nice player of the edge…20 sacks in two years is nothing to sneeze at

    • cliff henny

      good, pushes 2nd rd lb closer to #54.

      • GEAGLE

        He has a run on them earlier in round two….if they take a CB, and a friggin Guard, I will spazz out. Rather draft two friggin WRs, MORE WEAPONS!!!

  • GEAGLE

    Shefty said something like we will want to see how Desean acts in mini camps in April! but unless Chip says Desean won’t be traded tomorrow! it’s still a fluid situation regardless of what Desean think…basically, if we can’t get value, and Desean doesn’t act like an idiot from now til the draft we may get to keep him

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    Vick said everything but nothing. Garbage. For once, he should just speak his mind.

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