Three Takeaways: Roseman On DeSean

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ORLANDO, Fla. — Howie Roseman was more than willing to talk about any topic not involving DeSean Jackson Monday afternoon.

The assembled media spent more than 30 minutes with the Eagles’ GM, and despite his official stance on the subject, tried to search for hints about the team’s plans.




Keeping that in mind, here are three items worth noting, all with a Jackson slant.

1. There have been some questions about whose call this is. And really, that goes back to why the Eagles are looking to move on from Jackson in the first place.

If there is some kind of smoking gun (and we're searching) that will make it obvious why the team is moving on from the talented receiver, then the Eagles will be able to explain their reasoning as a collaborative organizational decision. But up until now, no such reason has been revealed.

If this is a decision based on Jackson's fit in the locker room, the culture, him being high-maintenance, etc., then we have a different story. And if that's the case, there's no question in my mind that the decision will be Chip Kelly's.

"The job of a personnel staff or the GM is to make sure that you’re getting players that fit your coaches," Roseman said. "We can all get really good players, but if they don’t fit your scheme or they don’t fit what the coach is looking for at a particular position, they’re not gonna be utilized well."

Key phrase there: What the coach is looking for.

The Eagles are a coach-centric organization. Jeffrey Lurie has made that clear on a number of occasions. The idea that Roseman would walk into Kelly's office and tell the head coach that he's taking away one of his best offensive weapons is silly. Kelly has final say on the 53-man roster, and Roseman's staff looks for players that fit what Kelly wants. But the head coach has to be on board - especially with a move this significant.

While we're at it, any suggestion that Jackson is a poor scheme fit is ludicrous. The guy had 82 catches for 1,332 yards and nine touchdowns in this scheme. And the notion that they would move on from him because he's not a great blocker is also absurd. Jackson actually gave effort in that area last year. Even if he's never going to be above-average there, the Eagles still were the best rushing team in the NFL with Jackson rarely coming off the field last season.

2. Roseman did little to dispute the notion that the Eagles might think Jackson is replaceable.

Asked about the WR class, he said: "It’s the best group at any position in the draft in our opinion. I think when you talk about it, it makes a lot of sense because of all the underclassmen that came out. When you look at the draft and just look at position groups, I think it’d be hard to argue that it’s not the best position group.

"When you look at the history of that position too, guys drop. We’ve been in a lot of drafts where guys are dropping. And so when you put that compared to just the absolute numbers, and then you look around the league and you just say, ‘How many teams already have three? How many teams have four? So are they really gonna go in the first and second rounds and take one?' I think it’ll be consistent with what we talked about at the combine."

At the combine, Roseman suggested that there could be a wide receiver available in every round that the Eagles like. And many agree that the position is loaded with talent.

In reality, you could make the case that the Eagles should at least get back some of Jackson's production with a speedster on the outside. The problem? That means they're going into the draft with a specific need to make the offense go (which is a bad thing). And also, such a theory is predicated on getting a healthy return for Jackson in a trade.

It's true that Riley Cooper did way more in Kelly's offense last year than he had done previously in his NFL career. But to think that the Eagles could easily replace Jackson's production because of the scheme would be a serious mistake, in my opinion.

3. The only NFL person to speak truthfully on the record about Jackson has been Jets owner Woody Johnson. He told reporters yesterday that the Jets are looking at a lot of players, including Jackson.

Of course, Jackson remains under contract, meaning that Johnson's comments could be considered tampering.

Asked if the Eagles plan to file charges, Roseman said: "I haven’t read all the speculation, all the reports about everything. I’m trying to keep my head down and really at this moment trying to enjoy my family a little bit. I obviously know there’s a lot of speculation going on. I think for us, any conversation we have with teams, about teams [players], it just serves our point well with the relationships we have with those to keep those private."

Speaking of interested teams, earlier today we recapped some of the latest rumors involving the Raiders, 49ers and Seahawks.

And Tim has more from Roseman, including Jackson and the culture question.

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  • Waffles

    Fake story with no real world credibility.

    • Tikkit

      Dude, you’re clearly drunk. Lay off the Thunderbird and turn off the computer.

  • Eagles1018

    Can we PLEASE talk about something else until we get a confirmation of what’s going on. I hate soap opera sh*t.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Lol…i hate it too, but what else is there to talk about? We have reviewed the draft and FA ad nauseum. What else is there to do during the offseason among a rabid fanbase?

  • cloisterwater

    The smoking gun is Desean killed Biggie.

    • Beaster

      Hey bud, a bunch of the guys from the ESPN NFC East board migrated to a site called Spikedkoolaid. You should come join us like the old days

    • DEBO 215

      CLOISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • chris

      Not Pac, he’s alive.

  • Leegles

    How about an update on Arrelious Benn’s knee?

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      They’re bad.

      • GEAGLE

        On schedule to be ready for camp. Tweet him, he always answers

        • cliff henny

          does he? been hitting up Mac…maybe he reads here and see me call him self tacklin too much. maybe should be little more anonymous than I am

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          So he’s on schedule to re-injure his baby knees.

  • Andy

    If the reason for wanting to trade Jackson (or even cut him) was because they could get a good talent in the draft and save some salary money, then why would they have brought back both Cooper and Maclin. Isn’t this offense stronger with Jackson, the same draftee, and either Cooper or Maclin?

    • ACViking

      Those pesky “sources” say that Roseman/Kelly — or is it Kelly/Roseman? — tried to unload Jackson last off-season.

      Maybe Jackson is NOT a Roseman guy. And Kelly has no particular objection, because he’s a “system” guy.

  • Brian

    Sheil,

    Please make something else up. This is getting old.

    Regards,

    Brian

    • Tikkit

      Brian,
      This story continues to unfold. Sheil/Tim are covering the Eagles. This is about one of their players.
      Would you rather hear about Jason Kelces beard trimming?
      Regards,
      Eagles fans

      • JosephR2225

        Hold the phone…. Jason Kelce trimmed his beard?!?!?!

        • Tikkit

          I heard that he tried, but the scissors broke.

          • Richard Colton

            He’d need a battle-axe. Psycho enough to use one near his neck too.

          • cloisterwater

            When Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone he had 3 missed calls from Jason Kelce.

          • Tikkit

            He always makes reservation for 2. One for him and the other for the slave girl combing his beard.

      • Brian

        Everything we’re reading is made up. How about a few articles in the draft? Maybe all 22’s on draft eligible players? At least we KNOW that Kelce has a beard, and that it’s not made up.

        • Tikkit

          I get that and these guys have done several of these articles in the last few weeks. This news is dominating the entire landscape now. It’s kind of like reporters not reporting on a massive earthquake because of a new school lunch policy in Bucks Co.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        I’d like to hear about the Kelce beard trimming. Especially if it were for a cause.

  • Broadcasting Wisdom

    Sheil I keep seeing you and others cite to his statistics as evidence that Desean cannot be replaced. Can’t you allow for the possibility that some other receiver would have done just as well under Kelly’s fast-paced wide open offense, based on what Riley Cooper and Ertz did once Nick Foles was in there? I commented several times on your all-22’s that the plays you picked showed teams were playing single high safety and were not shading towards Desean (somewhat surprisingly). Desean had a lot of highlights, without question, but how many of those were a result of scheme/play calls and being wide open? (Raiders, GB, Minnesota long TD’s come to mind as just total wide open perfect throws that many others could have made). Did he really have that many plays last year that made you think wow, that’s irreplaceable what he just did?

    Truth is Desean IS replaceable, especially with Foles at QB, because he doesn’t run crisp routes, can’t catch in traffic, injury prone, can’t block, takes many plays off, doesn’t buy into the system, never celebrates with his teammates unless it’s his own touchdown (seriously, whenever Ertz, Cooper, Celek scored, he would never celebrate with them). He just has a bad attitude and I won’t miss having to root for him when he is gone. I trust Chip Kelly knows what he’s doing here. Coop on one side, Maclin in the slot, and Mike Evans/Sammy Watkins/Allen Robinson/Kelvin Benjamin on the other side with Ertz/Celek rotating in and McCoy/Sproles handling the RB duties, all at a savings of $12 million minus whatever the rookie earns (which won’t be much), and hopefully a good draft pick.

    • Richard Colton

      Liked how you causally tossed Evans and Watkins in there as if we had a remote chance at either of them. Tell you this – we somehow come out of draft night with one of those guys and we’ll forget about DeSean.

      For a little bit. Then we’ll realize how hard it is to match his production.

      • Andy124

        Howie just told us they’re all going to fall to us at 22. We’ll have our pick of the litter.
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        And we’ll reject them all for Barr.

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        DeSean? Who’s that?

        • Andy124

          Backup QB.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Love the versatility.

      • cliff henny

        bringing Evans in for a visit. maybe they think jax for a 1st or Evans could tumble. Evans was made to play for Kelly though, he would be insane in this offense.

    • ACViking

      BW:

      Good argument.

      The only players on an NFL team who aren’t replaceable are (i) All Pro QBs [Miami’s still looking for Marino’s successor], (ii) All Pro Pass-Rushing OLBs [the Giants never found a replacement for LT and moved to a 4-3], and (iii) All Pro DEs [Reggie White here].

      WRs? What’s the argument on that position?

      New England (during and after the Plagiarism Era) has been to 5 SBs with only one great WR, Randy Moss in ’07. Otherwise, it’s all about the QB, defense, and genius coach.

      The Giants in ’07 and ’11? No great WRs there. No great QB either. So how did they win?

      Anyway, it’s an interesting issue to kick around.

      • djack10

        (Wes Welker is pissed at you for leaving him off.)

        I agree with your point that WR’s are typically more replaceable. That said, if it were that easy to have good WR’s the Eagles would have never ended up with Pinkston as a #1 WR for two seasons.

        Bring in the rookie WR and DeSean stays for one more season.

    • Brent E. Sulecki

      everyone is replaceable. except Dawkins. apparently

      • Dante Inked UP Lovings

        Well said

      • Jimbo99

        except Jim Johnson, I don’t even know who plays on defense anymore. Do know they were Texans before Eagles, probably why Eagles got better and Texans got worse ?

    • ceedubya9

      They aren’t saying that he can’t be replaced. Just that it isn’t as simple as just putting in another player and expecting things to not skip a beat.

      Regardless of how anyone wants to cherry pick how DeSean got his stats, the guy got over 1300 yards and 9 tds this past season. That isn’t easy. If it was, more guys would be doing it. There is no guarantee that Maclin will do it, or Cooper, or any other guy they might draft. Nobody’s saying he’s the best in the business. But he is a very good player, and proven in this league.

    • knighn

      DeSean has irreplaceable speed / quickness. There are just not many players in the NFL who can actually run as fast as DeSean does and actually catch the ball pretty well too. He gets a bad rap for his effort, too. He clearly dogged it in 2011, but since I’ve seen him make at least a couple of tackles on INTs and the guy does fight for the ball, and puts good effort in on run-blocking.
      When it comes to DeSean, I’ve got two big issues:
      1) Size + Injuries – DeSean is just small in every way. He might make an effort to run block and to fight for the ball but, due to his size, he will lose many of those fights. He clearly has a thinner build than many of the other successful short players in the NFL. I look at him and always think: that guy is one good hit away from a career-ender / life-ender. If DeSean ever sustains an injury that slows him down (even a little bit) he’s basically done. Speed and quickness are what make DeSean a successful WR. Without that speed he’s just a very under-sized WR. And then there’s the other part of the injuries: the concussions. He’s already had two and those tend to be cumulative. How many hits does DeSean have left in him… even at the young age of 27?
      2) His stupidity. There are many reports that he’s basically blown all of his money already. Hard to focus on the job when you’re just worried about your next paycheck. On top of that there’s the simple idea of, “Time and place.” Hey DeSean, when your TEAM had a great year that no one was expecting, it’s time to talk about the TEAM and the great future you’re hoping for with the TEAM, not YOU and YOUR money, even if people ask you about it.

      It doesn’t matter if the Eagles pay DeSean more money or guarantee him more money, he’s just ultimately going to be a problem… one way or another.

    • Neanderthal

      How does saving 12 mil help us be a better team this yr? Are teams going to keep a deep safety because we have 12 mil in our pockets? Are we getting a 1st rd pick for DJ to take Evans/Watkins/Etc or are we going to take them with our own pick that we already have and already could draft to ADD to DJ?

    • Yes_General

      I love how Sheil keeps pointing out that Deseans career numbers last season were against teams will low ranked defenses, no starting QB and possibly against coaches on their way out. So keep preaching about his 82 catches for 1,332 yards and nine touchdowns. Because all i will remember from last season are the 4 Catches – Zero TDs against the Bears, 3 Catches – Zero TD’s against the Cowboys and 0 catches for 3 quarters in the playoffs against the Saints – Ending with 3 Catches – 0 TD’s. That doesnt sound like a scheme fit to me when the games actually matter. If they cut him i really dont care at this point. We clearly need to find a receiver who can average 6+ catches a game. That is clearly not desean

      • jabostick

        The emphasis should be yards, not catches, don’t you think?

        • Warhound

          Yards per Pass Attempted is very a credible stat….. soooo Yards per Target?

      • djack10

        I may be mistaken, but I am pretty sure in almost every one of those games DeSean was open multiple times, and sometimes wide open and the QB didn’t get him the ball or the ball was overthrown/out of bounds.

        He is electric in this offense. Unless we get a great offer, you have to keep him as a weapon for at least one more season while you bring in a rookie replacement.

    • ochospantalones

      Why do you care if Jeffrey Lurie saves money? There is no one left to spend it on this off-season, so they would just be saving for the sake of inflating Lurie’s bank account. Hard to see why the fans should get excited about that. And they’re not getting a good draft pick for DeSean. DeSean is replaceable, he’s just not replaceable in 2014 with any players currently available. Getting a thousand-yard season out of a rookie wide receiver, even a very good one, is pretty unusual.

      • Broadcasting Wisdom

        I care because I am patient and not a knee-jerk fan who can only think about the present. This team finally has some solid building blocks and a PLAN to be GREAT in the near future. I understand that might mean 2014 isn’t a Super Bowl year – though it still could be – but if we have cap space to lock up Foles, Boykin, Cox, Kendricks next year to add to Peters, Kelce, Ertz, Barwin, Demeco, etc., we could be in for a 3-4 year window of sustained success with a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl every year. If that means potentially being a little worse this year (though I don’t think we’ll be worse without Jackson – I just don’t), I’ll take it.

        My understanding is that cap savings continue to roll over to the following year, which is how Banner finessed the cap so brilliantly during those halcyon 2001-04 years before they ditched the plan.

        Finally, if we had Vick, losing Jackson would hurt us more, because of all the improvising and “Jackson go deep!” plays that he could get us. But with Foles, he’s not extending plays, we need players who can run crisp, precise timing routes, fight for the ball, make the tough catch, block, etc.

        • ochospantalones

          Yeah, because the cap savings from cutting him now instead of after the season are totally going to make or break the future. They’re already have $16 million (minus rookie deals) to roll over for next year and have plenty of veterans they can get rid of or reduce the cap hit for after the season (DeSean, Maclin, DeMeco, Herremans, Trent Cole, Brandon Graham) if they need cap room then. There is no necessity to do this now.

          You are mistaken about Banner in 2001-04. The cap savings roll over is a new feature in the most recent CBA.

          • John Paine

            Banner apparently used “likely to be earned” bonuses to use this year’s cap in future years. Basically, the bonus counted against the signing year’s cap but got paid in whatever year it was earned. The roll over in the new CBA was basically designed to let everyone else get that advantage without jumping through the hoops.

            The fixed length of rookie deals and inability to restructure them until the last year is because of Banner too. He used to want to sign guys to 5, 6, or 7 year deals as rookies. Then if they were good, he’d resign at below market value 2 or 3 years before they could even field offers as a Free Agent.

            Also, Maclin shouldn’t be on your list of guys who’ll be off the books next year. The plan is that Maclin plays well and they work out a long term deal during this season. I’m fairly sure Howie has basically said as much. In fact, their desire to lock up Maclin long term (along with Riley and DeSean) is part of what started the D-Jax trade speculation. There would just be too much money locked up in the WR position, and the think was that something would have had to give.

          • ochospantalones

            I agree that it is unlikely they will pay all three of DeSean, Maclin and Cooper long term, which is why I put the two guys they aren’t locked into on the list. It’s also why I didn’t love the Cooper the deal. The list was not a list of guys they necessarily want to cut (I am pretty sure they want to keep DeMeco too), it’s guys with non-trivial cap hits you could move on from if you had to clear room. I forgot James Casey; Brent Celek probably counts as well. My point was not about the nature of the Eagles’ plan, I think it is pretty clearly the case they want to keep Maclin and don’t want to keep DeSean. My point is they have chosen this plan, it wasn’t forced on them- they have other options and nothing about their cap situation requires them to dump DeSean, especially not this off-season.

          • John Paine

            Fair enough… They certainly don’t HAVE to cut anyone for cap savings, as they’re well under the cap. I’m just saying that their willingness to lock up Cooper for decent money, and their desire to lock Maclin for (I assume) good money long term kind of does mean that they either “have” to move on from DeSean or “have” to restructure his number down.

            Since he’s coming off of a career year, I doubt he’s in the mood for a pay cut. Although, if he wants some more guaranteed money, then he’s going to have to take one. I guess that what it comes down to is the fact that the Eagles (and the rest of the league apparently), don’t think that he’s worth the money. Despite the numbers, I tend to agree. I think that he’s a limited player who CAN be great if you let him do his thing, but also can disappear for weeks at a time.

            I certainly don’t want to cut him, or trade him for scraps. But I completely understand why they’d want to move him if they can get good value. The fans over rate him because we had so many years of garbage WRs, and because he’s exciting (so was Vick, didn’t make him a great QB though). He’s not irreplaceable. He’s not one of the top 10 WRs in the league in ability (as opposed to statistically). Again, I’d rather have him than nothing, but I’m not married to him at all.

    • RIP illa

      Can’t a similar argument be made for Nick Foles???

      Ok the whole team can be replaced and are overrated. It’s all Kelly and his scheme. Talent has nothing to do with it and won’t win us a Super Bowl!

      • Broadcasting Wisdom

        Nope, because Nick Foles is at a much more important position – you can’t replace his mind, quick decision making, accuracy, leadership, toughness – and that is more important than a 5’9 speedster who lacks toughness, leadership, and is being paid like a top 3 receiver.

        In the salary cap era, it’s all about how much value do you bring per dollar you earn. If Jackson gives us a 90 score out of 100 for $12 million, and Kelly/Roseman thinks he can replace him with someone who gives us an 82 out of 100 for $500K with the possibility that the prospect gives us a 95 out of 100 in a couple years, then he makes that move. At $12 million, you better be a dominating force or you’re simply not worth it.

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          “you can’t replace his mind, quick decision making, accuracy, leadership, toughness”

          LOl. You can’t?

          And Foles doesn’t make quick decisions he (mostly) makes right decisions – toughness? I’d argue he needs more mental fortitude. Big games rattle him.

          Even with all that I’d say Bridgewater has all those qualities – so yeah – you can def replace it, especially in a QB friendly system such as Kelly’s.

          But we will see how much the FO values him. He has another year like this one – including a one and done in the playoffs – his agent is gonna be asking for Cutler/Romo money. Believe that.

    • Joe Goldberg

      I’m less concerned with him being replaced as I am in getting fair value in return for him. When can you ever remember a team giving up a healthy, under 28 year old, multi-pro bowl player, coming off his best year and under contract with no guaranteed money or signing bonus( to carry into future years’ cap space) to whoever gets him…at any position, and not getting at least a #2 (or more)? Indy gave up a #1 for the RB from Cleveland, Harvin, Flynn (again to Seattle), even us to Buffalo for Jason Peters (who they wanted to unload). When was one of these type of high caliber players, at his age and completely healthy given away for less than a #3, which I’m now reading they might not be able to get. If they give him away they can never again use the word ‘value’ or the term ‘value pick’ (like they did with trading up and drafting Barkley) and have ANY credibility. Why should we be the only team to give up such a player for least return ever?

  • ACViking

    Re: “Three Takeaways . . .”

    Just three?

    There’s a fourth that seems conspicuously unmentioned.

    Roseman and Kelly don’t care a bit what the fans think.

    Not that they should (or they’ll be joining Kotite and Mike Tannenbaum in the cheap seats).

    But maybe some more dots to connect would be nice.
    ___________

    Right now, the fans sort of have that feeling you get when your plane is waiting on the tarmac to take off for 1.5 hours . . . and the pilot doesn’t tell you why there’s a delay.

    If the pilot just shares a tiny bit of what he knows, that’s usually a salve that’ll ease the frustration of being in the dark about why you’re still on the ground.
    .

    • jesse

      But if they truly do want to trade him why would you release the dirt on him? Wouldn’t that hurt his value? Then again isn’t Howie hurting Desean’s value by overstating how deep the draft is at wide out and how players of value at that position will fall?

      • Ark87

        Not necessarily, he could still tow the company line, and the interests that come with it.

        “The Eagles are open to receiving offers for any of it’s players for the right value. The Eagles value all of its players and the contributions they can make in the coming year.”

        in other words… yep, we’re looking to trade DJax, but we’re not stupid. We’re not giving him away and we don’t have a real problem paying the man to go to his 3rd probowl.

    • Brandon Baltic

      Like I’ve said a bunch of times on this site. I think they know Desean is going to hold out unless he gets a new deal. My gut tells me his agent has communicated that to the Eagles behind closed doors. Just think about it, he said he deserves a new deal after the Saints game, he’s coming off a career year, and hired an agent known for holding players out (Chris Johnson). So if there ever was a time in his career to hold out, it would be this season. It’s the only reason that logically makes the most sense of why they want to part with him so badly.

      • djack10

        Holding out may be the most idiotic thing this player could do. He has one huge payday left (if he doesn’t get killed first) and the only way to it is to put up big numbers this year.

  • Richard Colton

    I hate this story so much and will demonstrate my disgust by hanging on every word and dutifully clicking every link.

    • ACViking

      nicely done.

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Even when I try to not click, I do it.

      • Richard Colton

        I’m hoping this is our 2014 thing. Like in 2012 we lost Jason Peters pre-season. 2013 Maclin. Maybe 2014 we lose DeSean and nobody else.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Let’s hope. Need to see that the sports science program is legit.

    • mtn_green

      Honestly I read every word even without DeSean Speculation. I’d like the eagles to win big, if they can trade DJ for a bag of chips and still win big, I’ll grumble until the wins roll in.

  • jabostick

    Maybe it isn’t that DeSean is easily replaceable by one guy, maybe it is that his numbers are replaceable, collectively (between Sproles, Ertz being more developed, a rookie WR, Maclin, etc).
    I’m not agreeing with the approach but I’m giving Chip/Roseman benefit of the doubt. Yet I have a hard time seeing the rationale, other than Chip thinks he can replace what DeSean does and for less money.
    I don’t buy the culture argument unless there are some serious missteps that havent been unearthed. Again, though, I find it hard to believe that DeSean was a cancer to the team and it went unnoticed given the attention this team gets.

    • Kd711

      One of the things I took away from Kempski’s piece today was that all the receivers from Chip’s time at Oregon averaged like 600 yards. I think Chip really believes in the “equal opportunity offense” idea and wants to spread the ball more than what we had last year.

    • Brandon Baltic

      I think they know Desean is going to hold out unless he gets a new deal. My gut tells me his agent has communicated that to the Eagles behind closed doors. Just think about it, he said he deserves a new deal after the Saints game, he’s coming off a career year, and hired an agent known for holding players out (Chris Johnson). So if there ever was a time in his career to hold out, it would be this season. It’s the only reason that logically makes the most sense of why they want to part with him so badly.

  • GEAGLE

    Hearing we like Sanchez

    • Tikkit

      BBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

      • GEAGLE

        Wanna go back to talking Desean? No, then say thank you :) jk

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Ugh

      • GEAGLE

        I said WE, not ME! Lol

        • jesse

          Kill the carrier

          • GEAGLE

            Lol I always felt messengers were fair game

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          It was directed at Sanchez. Not you.

      • OldDocRoss

        Just Mort flinging out random names. Didn’t sound like it was based on anything beyond educated guesswork.

        I’d hope the fact he was lousy at throwing footballs would be enough to dissuade Chip from showing real interest.

        • GEAGLE

          When did you hear mort talk about this?

          • Adam G

            It was a tweet.

          • GEAGLE

            Oh ok…they all pass tweets around like a groupie on Shadys party bus

        • cliff henny

          vet min, since he’s still making huge money from jets. why not, who cares, unless he ends up playing and then season is in crapper already.

          • OldDocRoss

            Because if being lousy at football is not enough to discount Sanchez from consideration then my long-standing personal dislike of him surely must.

            I’d sooner find out if Bubby was free Sundays.

          • cliff henny

            let’s face it, not getting a stud to come hold clipboard as 3rd string. don’t want to waste a pick. he can stand there on sidelines wearing 15 yr old girl hairband for vet min, fine by me.

          • OldDocRoss

            Your failure to take into account my irrational dislike of Sanchez is alarming!

            I think he’ll get more than vet min though, surely? Someone’ll be desperate enough to think he could be a viable #2.

          • cliff henny

            no, if there’s anyone on this site that understands hating USC it’s me. I lived on LA, south Bay/Hermosa Beach during the Carroll hayday. I never thought i’d meet a more delusional fanbase till moving to SC and meeting gamecock fans. but combining annoying arrogant and delusional, USC are the cream of the crop.

        • OldDocRoss
        • LookinAtMyGucci

          That’s true. Quick, good decision making and accuracy are not his strengths.

          • OldDocRoss

            He did manage to win a QB competition against the mighty Tebow though, so there’s that.

    • knighn

      I only like Sanchez if you can keep him covered in mud and dirt. That way I can at least have some cheap laughs at Dirty Sanchez.

    • cliff henny

      i’m not getting hot and bothered by 3rd string qbs till they have a 1st string WR.

      • GEAGLE

        I’d be pretty damn embarrassed to be behind FOles and Barkley if I was the dirty one

    • DharmaBum

      Hearing that too. You’d have to hope that Chip/Shumur could salvage whatever promise he had two years ago. He did lead the Jets to 4 playoff wins in two seasons, including wins over the Pats and the Manning-led Colts. Not sure exactly what happened to the kid. I’d be damn sure I DID know before I brought him in. I’m still thinking that Pryor, along with picks, is a decent possibility from the Raiders.

      • GEAGLE

        No…my hope would be that I never see him on the field :)

        • DharmaBum

          Well yeah…or that.

          • GEAGLE

            But, yeah Pryor make more sense…

    • cloisterwater

      2 words:

      Butt
      ….
      Fumble

      • DEBO 215

        Sometimes he poops in his hand and places it into the toilette so it makes less noise.

        • cloisterwater

          Is that a french toilet??

          • DEBO 215

            Negative ghost rider…But there are nuggz…

          • cloisterwater

            DJ Nuggz what’s up man? I thought that line sounded familiar.

          • DEBO 215

            haha nothing much dude. Drop by the spikedkoolaid.com spot one of these days. Most of the blog is still over there.

          • DEBO 215

            That line will live in infamy. Those were your epic words that we attempted to be the LAST bEast comment on the E! so for like 12 hours straight people just kept posting it, lol…good times.

          • cloisterwater

            That’s awesome. And thanks for the info. Just signed up.

  • GEAGLE

    Howie almost stopped the session because they kept asking about Desean when he told them he wouldn’t talk about it. Lol..Gotta love our media chasing our front office all the way to Orlando to find out nothing, like being in Orlando will suddenly make us not think Les Bowan is a clown lol

    • cliff henny

      just tell us the truth…jax sees himself as 10m player, eagles’ don’t…next question

      • GEAGLE

        At this point he should just admit we are trading him and say we already have a trade partner, and that the compensation would depend on if he restructures or not before we complete the trade and are just doing our due dillegence to see if we can get a better deal..even if you are just bluffing, F it, who cares, we clearly don’t want him

      • anon

        Haha might as well end trade talks. People have to think he’s worth 10 plus a pick.

        • cliff henny

          not like it’s a ‘we’re offering him 14m but he wont take our money’ situation.

  • jcwhy

    I think CK and Howard are looking at the entire roster and putting draft round grades on them… if they would have drafted them high.. pay high..if they would draft them low.. pay low… obv this theory doesnt ring true across the board but there may be some sort of logic in there…

    • anon

      What round tag do you put on the other wrs, tes, etc. Djax did pretty good for a second rounder.

      • jcwhy

        id agree… he performs like a 1 or a 2 at the worst.. career year etc. but some of the signings… Braman.. 6th rounder… Carroll.. 3rd or 4th.. Jenkins 2nd? etc etc… Long Hair Dont Care is a 3rd rounder? maclin 2nd rounder…just trying to be creative and think of a different perspective to make sense of whats going on over there…. sure know the FO is doing something different now a days… i like the direction though… different in a good way… when not saying anything about a player under contract and the whole media is a circus bc of it.. i think they are onto something good and im excited to watch it pan out..

  • LookinAtMyGucci

    Kelce just got a $260k performance bonus. Good for him.

  • DEBO 215

    Don’t sign Sanchez…just draft a late round QB…Seriously there’s plenty of them…Tom Savage from Pitt…hell even Tajh Boyd…Come on man…Sanchez?

    • cliff henny

      waste of pick. sign a vet how can run practice plays, pay him nothing. season’s over if he ends up playing in real games anyways.

      • DEBO 215

        I don’t think so. I’d rather get a kid with upside for next to nothing that can come in and learn the offense, then possibly develop and trade him. I’m not down with signing a Sanchez. What’s his number? He’s like a 5 or 6 year vet…he won’t be THAT cheap…

        • cliff henny

          like 1m. upside? man it’s Foles or F..ked now. Kelly doesn’t have all his eggs in a basket, he rented a flatbed and drove it to a chicken farm.

          • DEBO 215

            True that…I’m with that…but SANCHEZ THO MAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!?
            Bad enough Barkley is back there but SANCHEZ too? I can’t…

    • Joe L

      Savage is a bum.

      • DEBO 215

        Dude had a great year on a crap Pitt team and got screwed at Rutgers and got screwed out of a full year of eligibility. I think dude can play and just needs to get the reps and a stable environment.

        • Joe L

          He didn’t get screwed at Rutgers. He transferred because he didn’t want to compete at the positions. He went to Arizona because Nick Foles was leaving and he thought he wouldn’t have to compete at the position. He transferred to Pitt because again……..the cupboard was bare. He’s got no heart, I saw it first hand at RU. He wanted to be handed the job everywhere he went.

          • DEBO 215

            I thought he left RU because Schiano left?

          • Joe L

            No. He left before Schiano did. He started his freshman year and played alright, but erratic. His sophomore year he started off like crap, got benched for a 5’10 true freshman and decided he didn’t want to compete the next spring so he jumped to Arizona, because by the time he’d be eligible to play Foles would have graduated.

          • Richard Colton

            No heart is right

      • DEBO 215

        And he’s better than Barkley right now…

  • Neanderthal

    The only way this makes sense is if there is a Aaron Hernandez like situation that Eagles know about. Anything less means Eagles are cutting off nose to spite face.

    • GEAGLE

      No dude…you know what makes sense, our coach is planing something better…but yes, Hoffas body was discovered in the floor of Deseans apartment that was robbed

      • DEBO 215

        Unless he is getting a Sammy Watkins or Mike Evens, I’m skeptical.

        • GEAGLE

          Why? You can get Donte Moncrief in round 3, coach him up to be as good as anyone.. Desean a good player, but he ain’t TO

          • DEBO 215

            Are they three years away? I think with an improved pass rush, the current offense and maybe another CB, they could be ready this coming season. That’s if they have a threat the caliber of a DeSean on the outside. Maclin might be that guy, but who knows what we get out of him.
            Evens is a freak of nature. They might get that kid from Oregon too.

          • GEAGLE

            Not in this offense they ain’t 3 years away..not with shady,Ertz and Sproles on the Field…Moncrief will get one on ones all day, in this offense, maybe not in September, but I’d expect production by november

          • DEBO 215

            Yeah, I could see that. I just worry that the offense won’t be AS prolific without that threat. Sproles is a great get though, especially with the extension. I just hope we can adequately replace his production. 82 catches, 1300+ and 10 or so td’s is a lot.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah, even if it has to come by committee we should be fine.
            I expect Ertz to be a serious weapon in the near future
            Sproles is not here to play RB, he is here to be Wes Welker type, and he will catch ATleast 60 balls
            Mac should provide something
            And we will add a serious WR talent or two in the draft, so even if we subtract Desean, we adding some serious production by comitee

          • cliff henny

            both, evans and moncrief, then l’damien Washington in 7th

      • hacker13

        Planning something better? How can letting a Pro Bowl WR walk for nothing make your team better? We don’t have salary cap issues. And all of the defensive free agents who could have helped us have already been signed. Where is the $10M Jackson would have been paid going to be spent to make this team better? And with Maclin coming back from major knee surgery it seems like keeping Jackson around for at least 1 more year makes sense, regardless of who they decide to draft!

        • GEAGLE

          Do you think Chip is thinking, how the F can I screw this up and make the eagles worse? Is he working 20 ours a day because he wants to be less successful then last year?

          • hacker13

            No I don’t think Chip is the reason why Jackson is going to be let go. I think Roseman is cut from the same cloth from his mentor, Joe Banner who always seemed to shave an extra $20M from the salary cap each year while telling the fans they were “all in”.

          • GEAGLE

            You are high if you think Howie has the power to walk into Chips offense and say, hey Chip I know we have tons of Cap space, but we are taking Desean away lol.. You are delusional if you think they both aren’t in agreement, with Chip having final say on this matter

          • hacker13

            Well history has shown that the Eagles under Jeff Lurie’s ownership care more about managing the salary cap than they do about winning a Super Bowl. So until I see evidence otherwise I will continue to believe that Roseman is nothing more than a bean counter.

            Otherwise what is the football logic for releasing a player who had his best year and made the pro bowl and is only 27? There is none. How can you sell that to your fan base that he isn’t a boy scout so you thought it was best to move on?

          • hacker13

            So after the reports that Mathis is on the block because he wants more money do you still think Chip has final say on personnel matters? Roseman is cut from the same cloth as Banner – and its quite evident since he wants to get rid of 2 of the 3 best players on offense over contract reasons.

      • Neanderthal

        What a 5th rd pick or nothing is better? Maybe we can trade him for Hoffa.

  • kstagg

    Send DJ to Oakland and let him suffer out there. That would be epic. Sending him to Jets would be great just to give Vick a break and it also keeps him in the AFC.

    • GEAGLE

      It’s always nice to make Belliceks life a little more difficult

  • jesse

    I’ve been thinking about this , and it seems that perhaps this did all start from the Desean camp. Think about it this FO had always worked under stealth. It makes no sense to let this charade go on where you are losing value in your trade, then Howie goes on and on about how deep this class of wideouts are in the draft and how the will be value in every round. Again weakening the trade value of Desean so kinda makes no sense even if they did want to trade him doesn’t seem like this is the route they would have chosen. Now on the other hand you have Desean who although just answering a question did bring up restructuring his contract, he also got a new agent who made nothing of his last contact and I’m sure doesn’t want to wait three years to make his cut. So they leak the story to light a fire under Howie either restructure cut or trade thus Desean gets what he wants up front money and agent gets his cut off new contract. ? Now the Eagles FO saw this new what Deans value was and let this play out . Because by all accounts no one is really interested in Deans services at his current salary, so Desean should see that his best value is here in Philly

    • GEAGLE

      In fairness, we have no clue what value he has in a trade

  • GEAGLE

    20min ago Sheil tweeted this Roseman Quote: “at this moment in time, it’s hard to see the complete picture, but we have a plan”

    And Yous really think he don’t have an ace of spades up his sleeve? Get em Howie..
    .,
    Chip is in the business of improving our team, not making it worse!!!

    • cliff henny

      so do 31 other teams! none of them are getting rid of #1 1350/9 WR…maybe cause it doesn’t make a lot of sense!?

      • GEAGLE

        Other team haven’t turned EVERYTHNG they touched to gold…including a #4 WR that no one thought was worth a damn into a 10TD player…I ain’t see too many teams with an offense that got 29TDs 2INTs out of an inexperienced QB in 11 games….hey, if we take a step back, you know I’ll keep it real and rip them…but you can’t tell me you aren’t excited to see what we are going to do, and you can’t tell me that we are automatically doomed to make some Joe banner Andy Reid mistake.

        • cliff henny

          no, but quoting Howie isn’t a good way to keep me on bandwagon. he needs to shut the F up and write club friendly contracts.
          .
          and draft Mike Evans! horrible tats and all.

          • GEAGLE

            For someone so hype for Mike Evans, losing Desean increases your odds of doing something like going up to get him…you can hope to have Desean,Mac!Coop and the eagles go up to get him, but that’s like me hoping for the perfect march madness pool

          • anon

            I was on board with that when I though wed get more than a third. Have heard lots of people want to trade back, but we only have 7 picks now and still no depth on defense.

        • aub32

          I am not excited to see this offense start Cooper and Mac coming off of a major knee injury. I like Coop. I liked him before this year, but let’s not forget that in one season L. Robinson put up 11 TDs for the Cowboys. Where is he now without Dez taking all of the attention. Mac has never demanded the type of attention DJax does. You can sit here and talk about the draft all you want, but you have no idea who we will get or if they will work out. none of us do.

          • GEAGLE

            Exactly…exactly why I don’t feel the need to lose my mind until I know WTF IS GOING ON!!!
            .
            I vented yesterday and got it out of my system, sorry it’s not going to ruin any more of my days until I have some idea of what’s really going on…but feel free to freak out

          • aub32

            Who is freaking out? I just feel it’s dumb, really dumb. There’s no football reason for it. The fans that say DJax doesn’t fit the scheme is what gets me up in arms. I can’t control the front office and will be an Eagles fan regardless. However, I still reserve my right to disagree with the move. I want it all to work out, but part of my profession is probability. The probability that this team is better without Jackson is very small. I don’t expect the offense to be horrid. I just won’t be as excited and would be surprised if we wound up in the top 10.

          • GEAGLE

            You aren’t disagreeing with a move, you have no idea what the move is…all you KNOW is we are losing Desean, well no shit in a vacume that’s going to friggin suck…But for all you know we wainting to trade him so we can complete a trade for Larry Fitgerald, or are moving up for Sammy Watkins…I know this is crappy, but who the hell know what this offensive genius has in store for us right now,..doubt we would jettison Desean if we didn’t Think we had a way to be a better team..because Chip hasn’t been a coach long enough in the NFL to even care about money yet

          • OregonDucker

            Aub – Djax has a high probability of success but the standard error is 25% using non-parametric statistics. It is not a bell shaped distribution but a parabolic one. So be careful with mean related conclusions.

      • Ertz Donut

        Things are changing for the better it’s obvious get on board! If you can’t just go root for the raiders and jets and your fat boy Rex with his dog killin quarterback. You can be down with Matty shwab connection to lil Duchewan Jackson. Also, this is not the place for grammar police. Don’t be such a bag.

        • cliff henny

          ha, you got me pegged, troll someone else

    • Richard Colton

      If Plan A is replacing DeSean’s production with Sproles and (maybe) a rookie, I’d like to see plan B.

      • Kd711

        You’re forgetting Maclin and a more experienced Ertz

        • GEAGLE

          And two stud rookie WRs

          • Kd711

            I’m down with that.

          • anon

            Haha no defense huh? Guess you are being realistic. Honestly think we need to take a rb.

          • Richard Colton

            Seriously? We going to carry four or are you cutting Polk and Brown?

          • aub32

            You have no clue if they will even produce let alone be studs. The greater probability is that neither one of them will be studs, especially not in year one.

          • GEAGLE

            Chip hit a Homerun with an OT
            Home run with round two TE
            Homerun with 3rd round DL
            .
            Promising safety in the 5th round..
            ..
            But you are worried about Chip Kelly missing out on a WR, when he tried to recruit 80% of them and has known these kids for like 5 years? Excuse me, but if I wanted Chip Kelly to pick players for me, RBs and WRs would be at the top of my list

        • Richard Colton

          Nope. Factored them in. I really hope Maclin can finally become the #1 WR we drafted him to be. He hasn’t shown it yet. Can’t assume Ertz takes that next step just because we want him to.
          Here’s what I know – DeSean was successful in Chip’s offense.

          • Kd711

            We’ll see. I was just pointing out that your description of “Plan A” is a blatant straw man.

          • Richard Colton

            No doubt. Since Howie won’t be honest with us, he’s inviting the Strawman. DeSean’s production won’t be easy to replace. Saying we have other options is just hoping. It’s not a plan at all.

          • Kd711

            Whether Maclin can put up numbers like DeSean in Chip’s offense remains to be seen, but you’re talking like he isn’t a proven NFL starter.

          • Clamdigger

            The main problem I see with DJax, is that he can not break any kind of significant contact. If they barely get a hand on him, he can slip away, but if they get a decent grab on him, he usually gets brought down. I think he wants guys that can run through tackles to break coverages. When DJax has to bounce backward and make a move, it allows defenders to make up ground and get to him before he breaks one off.

          • Richard Colton

            Yeah. No argument. He’s not Megatron.
            He is, however, the best we have.

          • Joe from Easton

            I think by next off-season Ertz will be the best we have… Let’s all hope I’m right.

          • GEAGLE

            You don’t have to hope. He is the truth!!

          • Clamdigger

            Not justifying trading him. I was just trying to rationalize how he possibly doesn’t fit. =P

      • GEAGLE

        If you need to replace By committee, our fire power would be the way to do til until the WRs we draft are ready. I like Desean,but Yous talk about him like he is Calvin johnson

        • cliff henny

          man, you really need to fix spell check and Yous, that’s just terrible

          • GEAGLE

            How do you fix spell check? You can shut it off, or you can deal with it….not sure how you fix it

          • cliff henny

            don’t know, but I couldn’t careless about grammar (obviously by anyone reading 3 or more of my posts) but yous i’d figure something out

          • GEAGLE

            Yous is intentional..my spell check don’t write that :)

          • Kd711

            Real philly right there

          • GEAGLE

            South philly right there :).. Gotta shout out my origins every once in a while, and I dont think my 9-5 is the proper setting, so Yous are my next best outlet :)

          • Joe from Easton

            nice.

          • Kd711

            Care less should be two words ;)

          • cliff henny

            see, 1 post. just busting johnny’s balls, but yous is pretty bad

          • Kd711

            I kind of get it when you’re talking to multiple people, but when it’s to one person, I agree it’s pretty bad.

          • GEAGLE

            I get to type like 3 less letters and you all know what I’m talking about. So cry me a river build a bridge and get over it…Yous are the fools typing like 3 extra letters every time Yous wanna speak to everyone…

          • Kd711

            Well every time I type those three letters, I burn like 5 calories, so I’m going to live longer than you.

          • GEAGLE

            Well played!! Always appreciate someone who can stoop lower then me!

          • Joe from Easton

            While we’re on the subject of grammer; wouldn’t it be “lower THAN me”? haha

          • Kd711

            It’s spelled grammar. FIN.

          • Joe from Easton

            Shit! Epic fail.

          • Jarrod

            Actually in most cases where you use it ‘yous’ would simply be ‘you’ and you are the one typing the extra letters… just saying

          • GEAGLE

            Grrrrrrrr

          • Jarrod

            I have to say I think I like this conversation better than all the speculation on DJax though

          • GEAGLE

            Talking about bacon scented candles is better then more djax
            Tried talking Sanchez, but all I could come up with is he is dirty, and he sucks worse then knowshon

          • GEAGLE

            He gets brownie points the for a properly placed apostrophe lol
            ..
            I love watching all the offensive nutjobs go crazy, MORE WEApons MORE WEAPONS!!! DEEZ Nuts!! Hope your best weapon is traded straight up for Dion Jordan and the Eagles score 24pts a game for their rest of your lives!!
            :)
            DEFENSE!! DEFENSE!! DEFENSE!!

          • cliff henny

            jax for Jordan, sure! i’m hoping for jax for 2nd and 4th right about now. my only cling of hope is Evans’ visit. Jets’ 1st or Raiders being 2003 stupid and their 1st.
            .
            yeah, but 24, defensive driven team, that is never going to happen. might want to find JJ’s gravesite, visit that Sunday morning, before Eagles hang 50 on everyone.

          • GEAGLE

            Hate to say it bud, don’t shoot the messenger, but I think this is the beginning of the eagles transitioning to a Defensive Team!!

          • Joe from Easton

            Chip is not going to run a defense-centric team, I’m sorry. I love defense and I miss JJ more than anyone except maybe Weapon X himself, but those days are over.

          • cliff henny

            joe, he knows, he just hoping against hope, and also fact that Kelly is HC. wait till Kelly drafts 2wrs,OL and TE before 5th round. these d guys better hope Jax gets some picks. say it with me, 49-34 is same as 21-6

          • GEAGLE

            Lol MORE LBs!! More LBs!!! more LBs!!!

          • GEAGLE

            MORE DEFENSE!!!!!! Lol

          • Richard Colton

            MORE VIOLENCE!!!!!

          • GEAGLE

            That’s a compromise that works for me!! Which is why I watched 3 knockouts in one fight last night between hendo and Shogun…got my violence fix last night, but we could always use more…then again, my people fed humans to lions in an arena while everyone cheered so what do you really expect?

          • RIP illa

            MORE DJax??? Lol!

          • cliff henny

            doubtful, fact that head coach barely cares about d ‘s weekly game plan is probably first issue

        • Richard Colton

          He’s not, but he’s the best we have. “Replace by Committee” – good phrase. Better trademark it before Spadero steals it from you.

          • GEAGLE

            Replace by committee while you get younger and wait for a better WR you draft to develop? Happens in the NFL all the time, not really some trademark Spadaro phrase….it’s NO SECRET that we needed to get younger at the position, I just never thought it would come at Djaxs expense right now…but since I’m lucky if I’m even seeing a fraction of the vision, I prefer to wait to burn the city down…I get pissed enough over real stuff that happens, I’m trying to maintain my sanity during a trying time..do you mind? :)

          • Richard Colton

            Hang in there. We’ll get through this. Eagles will still have a dynamic offense. I’m just pissed right now.

      • DEBO 215

        Indeed.

      • Token

        They also seem to have a plan of Connor Barwin being the pass rusher next year. Sooooo yea.

        • Richard Colton

          Barwin was an underappreciated pass rusher before it was cool

  • anon

    Read a story that eagles were ready to move on from djax over a month ago. It’s clear Kelly doesn’t like him. Don’t know if it makes Kelly a bad person that he’d take a racist over a malcontent but it does seem like we won’t take lyerla in the draft or anyone else with attitude issues regardless of talent.

    I agree with the argument that you can replace djax in the draft, but then it doesnt make sense to me that youd lock up coop and Maclin prior to fa when those guys could easily be upgraded with mid round picks, unless you thought you could get a 1 or 2 for desean. Now I feel like you have to take a guy in the first bc you need someone with route skills that can consistently beat man coverage, not just a guy that runs 4.3 (and most of those guys need to develop hands).

    • Ark87

      If you know a gm that easily finds starters (Maclin/ Cooper) in the mid rounds, we should hire that guy. And replacing Desean? If we were lucky and nailed a pick in the first round. Half the first round guys never pan out to be anything more than role players. Yeah we thought we could get value out of Desean because he is a bigger asset than those guys. That’s what makes him a trade commodity. I don’t think anyone in the front office is under the illusion that trading Desean, for any value, would result in a net gain at the WR position. But it does allow your to take Desean’s value, and allocate it to other needs on our roster (cap money and the picks we get as compensation).

      The real question is, if we don’t receive a reasonable offer, do we just take the highest (but still crappy) offer anyway because we NEED him gone? Or worse, if no offers came would we cut him? If that proves to be the case and we find out why, that’s when we have the discussion of, is he more/less desirable or disruptive than a dude hated by an entire race. Does he schematically fit more or less than say, Nick Foles in a system that utilizes the read-option. Seriously if all this comes down to schematic fit vs value we can get in return for trading, Nick Foles would be a huge talking point.

      We’re just going to have to see how this plays out and get the dirt before we judge to severely one way or the other.

      • djack10

        A first round WR draft pick for the Eagles: Freddie Mitchell. How’d that turn out? Don’t toss the all pro WR overboard until you actually have a replacement!

        Deep draft at WR? So was 1999 at QB, remember?
        Akili Smith. Cade McNown. Shaun King. Brock Huard. Oh yeah and that McNabb guy.

  • Brian Pillion

    I’m getting a little sick of the assumption that Desean is necessarily a scheme fit because of the numbers he was able to put up under Chip. Chip Kelly is a highly intelligent (and adaptable coach), i.e. he’s going to make full use of the weapons at his disposal, whether they’re ideal scheme fits or not. And that’s just it, Desean CAN work in this system, but he’s not an IDEAL (or even good) fit. He’s not a quick or a crisp route runner, and just because he showed effort in the run blocking game this past year does not discount the fact that he’s simply not a very good run blocker. It’s a question of resource allocation, and with what Chip asks for from his WRs, there is no good reason to pay a WR like Desean (or probably any WR for that matter), with his particular skills and weaknesses, $10m/yr. Getting rid of Desean now, even if only for a 3rd rounder , allows for his snaps to be better allocated within the overall design of the offense. You might not have one player who steps into his spot and puts up his numbers, but the entire offense has the chance to be more efficient and versatile. Additionally, you gotta think it’ll be a good bit easier to sign someone like Maclin to a team-friendly long-term deal without Desean’s bloated annual salary as a negotiating benchmark.

    • aub32

      Better allocated? What receiver do we have that would have done more with DJax’s touches. Some of you just sound silly. I get we all may not be huge fans of DJax, but you’re kidding if you think that there’s a WR on this roster that’s better with the ball in his hands.

      • RIP illa

        You don’t know what you’re talking about Aub!!! He’s a one trick pony who can’t block and would never be this good without Kelly, even though the past and game tape says different! Who you gonna believe? Haters or your lying eyes??? :-)

        • Andy124

          DJax didn’t even catch those balls. That was all Jeff Maehl. They used special effects to make him look little and fast like DJax.

          This was all done so DeSean could have more time to focus on his rap career and keep him from being even more of a locker room cancer. They knew the writing was on the wall when DJ wouldn’t drink his smoothies because they weren’t hard core and he needed to keep it real.

          • RIP illa

            Now that’s the best conspiracy theory I’ve heard about this!!! If more of them were even close to yours, I would never get angry at a single post on the subject again. Lol.

          • Richard Colton

            yeah, but can we BENCH him?

          • GEAGLE

            Heard we plan on using Desean holograms on offense to free up Riley Cooper. Holograms don’t cost as much, they don’t rap really bad songs, sulk or talk back

      • Brian Pillion

        I said his snaps (not touches) might be better allocated. You have to factor in the entirety of what a player is asked to do within the offense, not just the things they do well. You already have Maclin and Sproles stepping onto the field to account for (who’re going to replace more than just Avant’s snaps), and I assume we’ll draft at least one WR. I think there’s a pretty good chance that if you subtract Desean from the equation, and divide his snaps between Maclin, Sproles, Ertz, and a rookie WR, chances are you get better overall production. If you disagree, that’s fine.

        • RIP illa

          Chances are that if you add or leave Desean in the equation of Maclin, Ertz, Sproles, and a rookie…you’d receive better overall production than without him. I don’t understand how people just bypass this! It didn’t really have to be an either or, except for the fact that Kelly and Roseman, seemingly, making it so.

  • Macsit

    My fear:
    they decided to deal DJax for various reason: attitude, not a Kelly WR, sport science saw fast declining etc…
    BUT they expected to strike an Harvin like deal (a 1st 3rd and 7th pick) but they didn’t come anywhere close to this and now they have created a problem in relationship with DJax and no one will trade for him so they’ll end up releasing him…

  • Brandon Baltic

    Posted this on a previous post but wanted to post it again since its applicable here as well.

    The whole “bad locker room fit” is total bs in my opinion. Chip had some questionable character guys at Oregon (Blount anyone?) and it worked out fine for him. The only theory that makes sense to me as to why they want to get rid of him so bad is this:

    He’s definitely going to holdout. His agent hasn’t gone public but has privately said to the Eagles Desean is holding out without a doubt if he doesn’t get a raise on a new deal. Howie doesn’t want to give him a raise (rightfully so because he’s worth what he’s getting now and not more) and therefore the only 2 options are trade or cut him.

    If you think about it, it’s the only scenario that makes a lot of sense.

    • Jarrod

      You’ve got a good point there but DeSean never said he wanted more money. He said he wanted more security. I think your point stands though. He wants security and the Eagles don’t want to give it to him. So why would he play a snap for them. Rather than deal with this every 2 years, Roseman said fine play for someone else.

      • Brandon Baltic

        Yep. He said he’s “deserving of a new deal”. He was kind of vague if he wanted more security, more money, or both. So who knows what “a new deal” means. His agent may have communicated precisely what he wants to Howie and Howie decided he’s not interested. Regardless, Desean is coming off a great year so he does have more leverage this year then he’s ever had if he wanted to hold out.

      • Brandon Baltic

        Also remember that his agent is the same agent that had CJ2K hold out a few years ago.

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    He’s a goner. That’s what I took away from Rosemn’s comments. lol

    • RIP illa

      Wasn’t that kinda obvious as soon as the rumors and reports started to come out? Everybody’s searching for some great reason, but there doesn’t seem to be any. No smoking gun on DJax’s part and every report points to this being a chip and Howie calabo, just cuz they don’t want him here and don’t see a need to keep him. It seems like it is what it is, at this point. I’m not understanding why it’s so hard for everybody to accept, whether it’s a dumb move or not.

      • Richard Colton

        I’m still at “Anger,” you’ve moved on to “Acceptance.” Still have 2/3rds of the folks in here stuck on “Bargaining.”

        • RIP illa

          Lol. Told you guys…just let everything out all at once. It helps! There’s still all the emotions there but it just makes things a bit clearer and leaves out all the conspiracy theories.

          • Richard Colton

            maybe we can still get a 3rd round pick for him?
            Nope…back to bargaining for me. This sucks. You know what? FU Chip. You’ve been here 15 minutes. Sometimes you have to work with people you don’t like. You should see some of the a-holes I have to interact with on a daily basis.
            Back to anger.

          • RIP illa

            Good, good. Let it flow through you.

            Who knows what they could get for him at this point. They helped sabotage his value, by wanting to cut ties with him, for not a real valid reason at this point, and then let the media finish it off with the speculation that it had to be his fault, due to lack of a valid reason from the organization. Other GMs are probably so shook, thinking the adage of too good to be true, that they are just falling back on something must be wrong with him (DJax). Coupled with the fact that they heard we are not keeping him no matter what. All that equals low value for us! Woody needs to do his best Al Davis impersonation, ASAP!

          • Richard Colton

            and Illadelph is back to bargaining. Grief is a process. Medication helps.

          • RIP illa

            Wait…wanting Al Davis back or to posses Woody is bargaining???

          • Richard Colton

            to get us a pick. I think its over. don’t think we get anything. you still holding out for a pick?

          • RIP illa

            Nope, but I wouldn’t put it past Howie to surprise us with getting a 6th or 7th. And then I wouldn’t put it past some, to spin it like Howie’s a genius for not letting Dsean get away for nothing, despite what I mentioned above about who had a hand in killing his value.

            To be unbiased…I failed to mention earlier that the draft class does play a part in his lower value also. Gotta say that before some of the FO pole jockers come at me on that!

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Lol.

          • RIP illa

            What??? I thought that was pretty unbiased!!! ;-)

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            I thought so, too haha.

          • RIP illa

            Nope. But I wouldn’t put it past Roseman to salvage a 6th or 7th from this mess. And I wouldn’t put it past the FO pole jockers to act like he’s a genius for it. Despite what I mentioned earlier about who had a hand in his trade value being so low to being with.

            I should also not that the Draft class has an effect on his value to. Wouldn’t think I would have to say it, but I’m sure some FO D riders would try and throw it in my face. So to try and be a little unbiased.

            Sorry if this posted twice…phone’s actng weird.

          • Richard Colton

            I can see that. Changed the “L” to a “K” after “pole”

          • RIP illa

            Yeah I just changed it to Jockers for the, like 7th time. Damn IPhone and Disqus don’t mix for me!

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        Well I haven’t been in denial about it since the rumors became hot and heavy. But b4 that happened I had the argument with my Uncle who said Jax was the chip they needed to get a more prootypical WR that Kelly prefers. The only point I had a problem with is that they were moving Jax for perceived “diva” issues. Basically I think it just comes down to they think they can it a more “normal” WR and don’t want to pay 10 mil for the mini-yet speedy-mouse.

        • RIP illa

          Yup. In one I my post below, I said how his trade value was hurt by people trying to fnd a reason that made sense. And since this move is so off putting, most media folks instantly assumed that it was strictly on DJax end. But they have yet to find anything.

  • Uncle Wonder

    Uhhh…did anybody else just see Mort report Sanchez to Eagles as basically a foregone conclusion?

    • JofreyRice

      Yeah, getting a real sense of peace and calm about this offseason. Trade Vick for Sanchez and Desean for nothing.

      • GEAGLE

        QB BATTLE!!! YES!!!!

        • Richard Colton

          Mark Barkley vs. Butt Fumble. I (for one) can”t wait.

          • GEAGLE

            I’m pretty friggin delirious right now..I’m taking it so well. That I think I’m really starting to lose what’s left of IT this time…because I should not be laughing right now

          • Richard Colton

            I’m really starting to come to grips with the idea DeSean won’t be on the team next year. its depressing. pry won’t shower for the next three days.

          • OldDocRoss

            Maybe they just want Barkley to get the confidence from winning a QB battle. This was the easiest way to ensure that short of tracking down Mike McMahon and seeing if he fancied coming back.

          • Richard Colton

            Next generation of Detmers not available yet?

    • GEAGLE

      I’m under the impression that it’s a done deal…3 sources not named LaConfora or Les Bowan confirmed it

  • Uncle Wonder

    Sanchez "failed physical" termination w Jets was protocol. Won't affect next step – signing with Eagles. He's on good recovery from surgery— Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) March 24, 2014

    • Joe L

      USC’s finest as the two back ups. Great.

      • Kd711

        I always thought the idea that Chip especially liked signing players he had coached against was overblown, but now I don’t know.

        • Uncle Wonder

          DeSean is from the Pac 12…lol, just sayin

    • Kd711

      Wow. And now Schefter tweeted about it.

      • cliff henny

        well, scheffie means it’s done deal. someone needs to get him a real headband. that 15 yr old girl’s one her wears cant cut it in philly.

        • Kd711

          To be clear, he tweeted that Mort was reporting it, but still sounds official enough to me.

          • cliff henny

            whelp,now eagles can get rid of coleman Matthews or whoever we were discussing becoming new kicking boy, we have a winner.

        • Ark87

          Is there anyone less Philly than Mark Sanchez?

          • Richard Colton

            Cole Hamels

          • RIP illa

            Casey Matthews?
            Matt Barkley? Excuse me…Mark.
            Alex Henery?

          • Richard Colton

            depends if we’re talking pure suck factor or personality. personality wise current/recent players?
            Phillies: Cole Hamels/Billy Wagner
            Sixers: Andrew Bynum
            Flyers: Shawn Antoski
            Eagles: Ricky Watters

  • Eagles1018

    Terrell Pryor wants to be released according to “sources”. Fingers crossed. I think he’d be an awesome back up

    • Joe L

      He wants a shot to start somewhere.

    • GEAGLE

      Mortenson, ESPN and New York are all reporting we will sign Sanchez

    • Andy124

      He lost his job to Matt McGloin at one point. I love Matty, but come on. That is not a good sign.

    • phillylove21

      That “dream” won’t exist.. We have a PACk of PAC’s..

  • Philly0312

    Sanchez to birds

    • Eagles1018

      I wanted the butt fumble guy on our team. I mean aren’t we already a laughing stock

      • Philly0312

        I’m a fan…depending on salary. I’d take him over the other guys who were in the market.

        • OldDocRoss

          The only possible way I could support this move is if it means Henery is left without a jersey number and thus a job.

          Sanchez is a terrible, terrible quarterback. Historically awful.

          I’m not loving this signing.

          • Philly0312

            Well, then you haven’t paid much attention to his career.

          • OldDocRoss

            I have. He has provided four seasons of mostly dreadful quarterback play. Early in his NFL career a very good defence helped his W/L ratio and in his second year he did reach the dizzying heights of “below average” but since then his performance has declined at a rate that would make Nnamdi blush.

            I do not believe a serious shoulder injury was the thing to help get his career back on track.

            When he’s passing, no man, woman or child outwith a ten yard radius of his intended target is safe.

            Dreadful player.

          • Philly0312

            You said “historically bad”. He isnt. His third season he tossed 26 tds to 18 INTs. Then every offensive weapon on the team disappeared. He isn’t great…but he can step into a game and maybe pull out a “W”. If they are paying 5 mil I’ll hate it. But if it’s 2 to 3 mil..better than the other FA qbs, with the best legs of the bunch presently.

          • OldDocRoss

            To clarify, historically bad was relative to where he was drafted. There are very few top 5 picks who have been as bad.

            Great QBs look good when they’re given poor weapons.

            Good QBs look OK with poor weapons.

            Average QBs look bad.

            Bad QBs look like Mark Sanchez.

            I’d rather take a shot on someone who I’m only 90% certain is awful than someone who’s proven beyond all doubt that he is.

          • Philly0312

            Fair enough. I would say 90% awful would be prior, who at least has huge physical ability.

          • OldDocRoss

            Yeah, Pryor probably fits the 90% figure, but I’d rule him out because he seems to be under the illusion he’s a starter. If nothing else I’d hope Sanchez has accepted he needs to be a #2 for a year or two if he wants to get back on track.

          • Maggie

            He’s been to the playoffs twice in 5 years with a mediocre team.

          • OldDocRoss

            Dan Klecko is a three time Super Bowl champion.

            Those playoff teams were mediocre because they had a bad QB. Stick Brady or Manning or even CruddyManning or Jay Cutler in there and they’d have been viewed as pretty darn good.

            The defences were sick. The offense would have been above average if they had a good QB.

            Also regression.

            Also, also shoulder injury.

            Also, also, also my long standing not entirely rational dislike of Mark Sanchez.

      • Neanderthal

        Chippah is going to design a play called the buttfumblerusky

  • JofreyRice

    I’m making my peace with moving on from Desean, but I find it so odd fans are engaging in smearing him on his way out of town.

    • Andy124

      He literally slapped my momma and urinated in my cheerios. I am quite displeased with him.

      • OldDocRoss

        Better that than the other way around….

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Who’s smearing? I understand people pointing to his questionable choices, behavior, etc, but who’s outright smearing?

      • JofreyRice

        Elaborate theories of his possible criminality, people hoping he ends up in some toilet NFL franchise, talk about teaching him “a lesson”. Some fans are damn near giddy with ill-will.

        • OldDocRoss

          I can’t speak for anyone else, but I want him to get shipped to a toilet franchise (in the AFC) because I think he’s a bloody good player. San Fran or Seattle getting their hands on him scares the jeebus out of me.

          I mean I *really* want him to stay and this all to have been part of some hilarious prank, but assuming that’s not the case I’ll go with the toilet NFL franchise thing.

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Well there’s been a lot of fans for a while that don’t like him, so I guess I just ignore those posts. As for the criminality, I’ve seen the elaborate theories you mention, but you don’t think he brings them on himself when he’s all over IG dropping gang signs, even flashing them at D. Hall in the middle of a game? Hell, he spells “Jaccpot” with the second “c” to rep the Crips. Dude’s such a wannabe gangster it’s a joke. That isn’t ill will. He provides that ammo. And while I understand there’s some things that you have to accept with players, after the spectacle made with Hernandez’s alleged Blood affiliation, it’s not unreasonable for a franchise to want to distance themselves from that.

    • Token

      Its clear what I think of the Jackson thing. I dont value him as highly as others, dont care if hes gone.

      But, its hard for me to believe Howie when he says they have a plan. WTF kind of plan is it? They didnt fully purge the trash off the roster like I expected. They brought in even more bums then they already had. Get rid of the highest producing WR for probably no compensation. Sign maybe the worst QB in the league to be your backup because he had a good game against Oregon once.

      I dunno. I didnt think it was a good idea to let Chip control personnel when he was hired and I still dont. The problem is, if hes not controlling it then Howie is. Theres just no right answer there.

      As I said in another post, I fear we may have ended up with a coach who buys into him being the star of the show. And that he can make any players work out with his coaching and system. I dont think they scenario ends well.

      All that said, maybe there is a plan. I guess we have to wait til the end off the offseason to fully judge it. But from where im sitting it doesnt look great.

  • KeithPetres

    1) Because DeSean’s salary is so high, his marginal value is relatively low (note: marginal value, not actual value, which is very high). If he were a free agent he would be getting a contract for about what he’s already getting paid – so why would a team be willing to give up both his free-agent salary-ish and a draft pick. In short, the Eagles probably won’t get much.
    2) As great as he is, because he’s so one-trick-pony (his speed), I got the impression that good defenses/CBs make him disappear easier than other players would disappear. For example, it wasn’t until that Saints CB got injured that DeSean started influencing that playoff game. I guess every player’s performance is affected by the quality of the opponent, but DeSean’s extremes (both good and bad) seemed to be a little more pronounced than it is for other players. My guess is that Chip Kelly wants players with less variability in their ability to affect the game, or at least, less variability that is dictated by the quality of the opponent.

    • Maggie

      His actual value, according to NFL.com was as a wide receiver ranked #31 in the League.

  • oreofestar

    Yeah… we got rid of Desean….for Sanchez yeah thats just f***ing rich

    • Richard Colton

      maybe we can wring a 2nd out of the Jets if we promise not to pursue tampering

      • Ian Farley

        i believe this is called extortion.

        • Richard Colton

          football’s a violent game Ian. be a shame if somebody was to…get…hurt.

    • oreofestar

      Of all backups to sign….this fool

  • Mike Tyner

    Why do we want Mark Sanchez?

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Give our DBs practice.

  • oreofestar

    Yo Mckenzie what is taking you so long give us your freaking 2 and 5 for Desean

    • LookinAtMyGucci

      Have you finally accepted it?

      • oreofestar

        what?

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          That he’s gone.

          • oreofestar

            I still think it is incredibly stupid and I do not agree with it but that does not mean that they won’t do it, unlike everyone else I still think there is like a 24.2% shot he is back but at this point I doubt it

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Oh, I thought you had miraculously come to full acceptance.

          • oreofestar

            I am basically there and I more worried about what we get than really trying to hope he comes back but I am still saying that I do not feel it is a 100% foregone conclusion he is gone

          • Maggie

            A little reality. According to NFL.com, prior to 2013 season, DeSean Jackson was rated WR #31 last year. Calm down. Even Maclin was rated higher before his injury.

          • oreofestar

            I do not give a crap what NFL.com says and I expect no less he was injured and had 700 yards, I have calmed down though

          • OldDocRoss

            You’re about 24.3% too high, but you’re getting there.

          • oreofestar

            so we are getting into the negatives, he really is not coming back

  • Honest_T

    Just to clarify, is the QB competition to see who will back up Foles…or is it to see who can throw more interceptions?

    • oreofestar

      IDK my hope is that this is a flier type deal and not a longer thing hopefully if Sanchez is injured and sucks we can get rid of him easy

  • Mike Tyner

    Heres hoping Sanchez fails his physical

    • oreofestar

      I hope so too

    • Maggie

      Sanchez did lead the Jets to the playoffs twice, let’s not forget. And I don’t believe they have ever had a really good team around him.

      • oreofestar

        That second part is a lie I am sorry Mags but Sanchez had really good defenses around him for those runs

        • Maggie

          Defenses. All Ryans seem to be about defense, not so much offense, I think.

          • oreofestar

            That’s fair

      • OldDocRoss

        He didn’t so much lead them as he was dragged kicking and screaming by very good Ds.

        And Cotchery and Holmes didn’t entirely suck. Braylon Edwards….mostly did, but he had his moments.

  • GEAGLE

    Vince Wilfork cleaned out his locker, ripped his name plate off after asking for his release…..

  • Mike Tyner

    So we traded Vick for Sanchez basically

    • oreofestar

      Well there was no way we would pay Vick 5mil a season Sanchez would probably not make half of that….I hope

      • Mike Tyner

        What I hope is that he plays well in preseason, someone qb gets hurt and we get a 4th rd for him

        • oreofestar

          That would be nice, get a 3rd or 4th for him and dig through the scraps for a backup

          • OldDocRoss

            Exactly what level of quarterback-opalypse are we thinking would be necessary before Sanchez became worth a mid-round pick?

          • oreofestar

            Chip Kelly makes him look beastly in the preseason

  • oreofestar

    I would rather give Tebow a shot then sign Sanchez of all backups I would have preferred a Freeman, Campell, Pryor

    • OldDocRoss

      I would rather give Tebow a shot then sign Sanchez

      I’m assuming you mean “than” rather than “then” because signing terrible quarterbacks sequentially is a foolish course of action, but that aside even Sanchez > Tebow.

      • oreofestar

        you are correct “than” and Tebow would cost nothing and if he makes our roster at all it is because he improved and would be playing at a minimum as opposed to Sanchez who will be making some dough but I am not entirely serious about the Tebow thing though

    • Rahkem

      why woudl you rather have pryor whos shown no accuracy than sanchez? hat makes no sense if youve watched football the last 5 years lol

      • oreofestar

        At the same exact price I will take Sanchez but a proven guy like Sanchez who we know would cost more than taking a flier on a guy like Pryor

  • GEAGLE

    Sanchez actually wasn’t as much of a joke last time he played behind a good run game…..trust a QB who beat Brady in the playoffs more then I trust Barkley at this point….Barkley vs. Sanchez, it’s like my nightmares are coming to life

    • oreofestar

      Damn Nick better not go down or stuff is gonna get ugly

    • OldDocRoss

      trust a QB who beat Brady in the playoffs more then I trust Barkley at this point

      Then bring back Jake Plummer already.

      • GEAGLE

        Barry Finkle wouldn’t approve

    • Kev_H

      I’d love to see Sanchez in Eagle green. He’s going to make some NFL noise away from the Jets’ circus and he might as well get things rolling here.

  • GEAGLE

    Shefty is saying we are open to trading Desean but that it’s not a guarentee

    • RIP illa

      Lmao. That’s hilarious. Love to see how this one plays out if they backtrack and keep him. The F up has already been done, they talked that talk, of letting him go regardless. They should it their losses and move on. And I’m saying this being a DJax Lover

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        Yeah, they backtrack on that now and ish is gonna be AWKWARD. As a fan I’d be conflicted about what to do.

      • OldDocRoss

        Eh, I respect Schefter but this sounds like ass-covery in the 1st degree.

        “Thing will happen, unless it doesn’t! (Per sources)”

  • oreofestar

    Prediction – Sanchez will look decent in the Chip Kelly offense in the preseason a team get excited and jumps gives 3rd round pick for Mark

  • GEAGLE

    Raiders GM confirms Pryor will be traded or released soon

    • oreofestar

      Why would anybody trade for a player when you used release right after mentioning him being traded…..dumb

  • GEAGLE

    Hahahah and those dirty Niners just landed the 100th pick in the draft as a compensatory for losing Goldson last year…greedy pricks…no compensatory picks for us sigh

    • oreofestar

      F*** them half their picks won’t make their roster so give them to us damnit

      • GEAGLE

        Ravens were just awarded I like a 3rd,4th and a 5th or something crazy…wonder if John Harbaugh would take Desean..that offense needs help
        ..
        Jets recieved an extra 4th and three 6ths

        • oreofestar

          I doubt it they just resigning Jacoby and signed Smith

          • GEAGLE

            That’s right…forgot

          • oreofestar

            You see 49ers have the picks and some good ones but I would hate to see him there plus there is NO WAY they could afford him

          • OldDocRoss

            They’ve got some contracts they can play around with (Gore’s being the obvious one) to make room.

            But yeah, I’d rather ship him to Oakland for a swap of 7th rounders than see him anywhere in the NFC.

          • oreofestar

            The Niners have a TON of picks to sign and have a QB who is gonna get PAID and only have 4mil in space which is not even enough for their picks assuming only lets say 6 or 7 make the roster let alone adding 10mil fr DJAX

          • OldDocRoss

            They could get DeSean’s number down after signing him and they’ve got quite a few guys on their roster who could be reworked or cut altogether. If they decide it’s “win now” time and really like DeSean they could make it happen.

        • Mike

          Wow..if Jets just received all those additional picks, they will probably trade for DeSean.

          • oreofestar

            Jets got a 4th and 3more 6th

  • Kev_H

    I have to disagree with the strong stances of SK and TM regarding scheme fit. My sense that Kelly has a clear idea of what he wants every player to do on every play and he values versatility in his main wideouts. Just because Jackson caught more balls for more yards than he ever did before doesn’t mean he was giving Kelly everything he wanted at the position. There are guys out there who catch a lot more balls for a lot more yards and TDs and every Eagles’ skill player was putting up mad statistics. It isn’t unreasonable to think a more versatile WR might catch 100 balls for 1500 yards and 15 TDs for Kelly. I think they’ll be eating those words come November.

  • Dave

    Jackson needs to start doing sit ups in his driveway already and get this thing over with

  • Matt

    I am so sick and tired of hearing that Jackson is definitely gone. The only way that he is definitely gone is if they can get a 1st round pick for him. They will NEVER cut desean Jackson. It just isn’t going to happen. Think about everything that has happened. It’s clear that chip and roseman aren’t saying anything to squash it because they aren’t sure whether they can get what they want for him. You wouldn’t specify one or the other because then the other option is gone. They are being smart. Nothing definite has come from within the organization and that can only mean one thing… That they don’t fucking know! If the media would let them breathe maybe this wouldn’t even be a situation. News flash everyone, anybody is tradable for the right price. Anybody! Just because they sent out feelers does not mean he is “definitely gone” like that joker jeff mclane seems to think. God I feel like I should be writing these articles, not these asshats. Until chip Kelly says that desean is gone, there is no reason to read any of these articles. I hope you are all enlightened. You’re welcome, chip!

    • Kuato

      “It just isn’t going to happen.”

      “God I feel like I should be writing these articles, not these asshats.”

      Just sayin.