Eagles Wake-Up Call: Draft Could Provide CB Upgrade

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In the past four seasons, the Eagles have had a rotating cast of characters at cornerback.

Starting on the outside have been Asante Samuel, Ellis Hobbs, Dimitri Patterson, Nnamdi Asomugha, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher.




What you'll notice about that group is there's not a lot of homegrown talent. Or more specifically, there's no homegrown talent. All seven of the cornerbacks listed were either signed as free agents or acquired via trade. Brandon Boykin would be the exception, but he's been used strictly as a nickel.

Williams and Fletcher were adequate last year, and the team signed Nolan Carroll from Miami. But the team's cornerback situation is precisely what Howie Roseman is describing when he talks about taking the best available player. The Eagles are OK going into the draft, but they will be looking to upgrade if the picks fall a certain way.

Last month, Roseman said the team had to review its grades on cornerback prospects after the combine.

"Impressed by the group overall, especially more of the guys that you predicted would be in the third-day range really showed up," he said. "I think that was exciting to us. In fact, we spent a bunch of time going over our board here today and looking at guys that we had in the third day, and kind of excited about that group to kind of go through them again and look at them because they tested really well. You put that together with the guys that are up top, and overall it’s probably a better group than maybe we anticipated when the offseason started."

Check recent mock drafts, and chances are you'll see the Eagles linked to a cornerback in the first round. Daniel Jeremiah of NFL.com has them taking Michigan State's Darqueze Dennard. Several others predict Ohio State's Bradley Roby. And Billy Davis was reportedly paying a lot of attention to Kyle Fuller at Virginia Tech's Pro Day.

All three of those corners are in Mike Mayock's top-five at the position. But the CB class is considered deep, and the Eagles could just as easily pick one in the later rounds.

One way or another, you get the sense the cornerback picture on this team could change between now and spring practices.

WHAT YOU MISSED

The Jets, Panthers and Raiders have reportedly inquired about DeSean Jackson. Are the Eagles trying to create a competitive market?

In his weekly mailbag, T-Mac talks backup QB situation, Jackson and draft.

We unveiled our annual Eagles pre-draft prospect tracker.

McManus sizes up the moves by the other NFC East teams.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Elliot Harrison of NFL.com has the Eagles ninth in his offseason power rankings:

Any way you look at it, there is NOTHING not to like about the Eagles dealing a fifth-round pick to the Saints for Darren Sproles. Yes, the running back will turn 31 this summer, but it's not like he's an every-down player. Moreover, the Eagles think they can win now. And given the state of the NFC East, that's not a kittens-and-rainbows outlook -- it's reality. Finally, that fifth-round selection falls in the back end of the round anyway, meaning it will represent somewhere around the 160th-best college player on the board. Big whoopie.

The Jackson situation shows that Chip Kelly is in control, writes Ashley Fox of ESPN.com:

Kelly wants players who will buy into his system and not be selfish. Throughout last season, Jackson said he bought in. He said he was trying to get more sleep, as Kelly requested of all the players. Jackson said he was more than happy to contribute on special teams, because Kelly preached the value of the favorable field position effective special teams play could provide. Jackson said he supported Nick Foles, even though he preferred Michael Vick to be the Eagles' starting quarterback.

But clearly Kelly didn't like something about Jackson.

COMING UP

Your guess is as good as ours.

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  • Dominik

    Don’t like the CB mocks at all. Yeah, bpa and all, but that position shouldn’t be a priority. We have 3 players for 2 starting positions + Boykin. None of them are Revis or Sherman, but they are solid.

    We can draft a CB we need to coach up – no problem. But get that CB in the 4th or the 5th round.

    It could be pretty simple: if an OLB we like falls to us at #22, pick him. If there is a WR we really like (depends on the Desean situation, how much we need to like him ;)), pick him. If a CB (or OT, f.e.) is the bpa – please pick up the damn phone and trade back. We don’t need players at that position, we need picks in a deep draft.

    • Dominik

      Look at the top CBs in the NFL (I looked at the All Pros): Talib, Haden and Peterson were 1st rounders, altough Peterson is also a great athlete + returner, that helped his draft stock.

      But Verner and Sherman are 4th respectively 5th rounders. The honey badger was a 3rd rounder (to be fair, he’s a hybrid FS/CB, but he does play a lot of man coverage). Drafting CBs is crap shooting. Claiborne was the 6th overall, Miliner the 9th overall pick. How do you think the Cowboys or the Jets are feeling about their 1st rounders at the moment?

      CB is a position I’d rather take the chance to coach a mid-to-late draft pick up than to pick a guy in the 1st.

      • cliff henny

        Look at Belicheck. he’ll need a corner or 2, trade back couple spots in 2nd and 3rd, pile up the 6th and 7th round picks, draft like 5 corners. bring in another 2 or 3 UDFA and have them fight it out all summer. not saying davis vs Billy B is a fair fight, but if there’s one position you can volume shop, it is corner.

      • Eagles1018

        I up voted you because I agree to an extent. Honestly, I feel like Dennard is worth that pick. I think he’s gonna be a stud CB.

        • Dominik

          I’m not saying that Dennard in particular isn’t worth a 1st rounder. Haden, Talib, Revis and Peterson were worth a 1st rounder, no doubt. It’s more of a philosophical point of not liking CBs in the first round that much.

  • beak n talon

    There is a steep drop off after the top 4 or 5 CB in this draft, but every player in that 1st group is pretty close. Fuller fits what we want in a CB and could start by mid-season if not immediately. Ideally we could drop back 10-15 spots and still get someone like Fuller or KVN. Demarcus Lawrence is another name to watch at OLB. He could come off the board sooner than Ford and Ealy.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      Although I do love fuller, I feel there are 2 positions that just have a ton of high-end talent at the top of the pack: WR and OLB. Now, both are also deep, but those 2 have a handful of guys each who I’d LOVE in the 1st and 2nd. I’d be happier personally with ODB in rd 1 and a CB like Desir in rd. 4, for example.

      As far as other position groups I see as deep (and candidates for a mid/late round pick) or just not strong and worth a top pick are DT (deep), ILB (deep), S (weak), CB (deep), OL (deep), TE (deep). I don’t think any of those, with very few exceptions, offer value in 1st or 2nd rd, compared to what is already on the roster and what can be had later.

      • Tom w

        Kudos. And if you read the Quote from Howie it seems he is excited about taking a corner in rd4-7 … Like baptiste, aikens, Colvin, Oregon corner, rice corner or if McGill or desir drops. Rather than a corner early. Think we going wr and lb early and often

  • cliff henny

    4th-5th rd CB, mark it down-about time we start believing what they are saying. maybe Howie can work 4-way deal, Jax for a bunch 5th rd picks, hopefully bunch of real nice guys, heavy sleepers too, who’ll tackle returner at 25 instead of 30. or, just get a kicker who smashes it thru endzone.

    • oreofestar

      I agree there just is not enough value at the top Gilbert will be long gone at 22 and Dennard could be there but even if he is there is bound to be a better player I like Fuller alot but not at 22 which is what bothers me, Their is depth in the class, Mcgill, Desir, Johnson, Purifoy and others are there to be had in the mid rounds

      • cliff henny

        but how are their sleep patterns. god forbid a 25 yr old guy making millions might enjoy chasing (like these guys chase…stand their and it gets thrown at them) some ass in his downtime at the clubs

  • GEAGLE

    No corner at 22. Not gonna happen

    • oreofestar

      I agree, Gilbert is long gone, Dennard is probably gone too and even if he there I doubt they go for it look for a corner drafted in the mid rounds

    • cliff henny

      howie’s telling us 3rd day. both Kelly and Howie pretty much tell you what they are going to do, mix in some ambiguous chatter, but it’s right there.

      • Dominik

        That 3rd day reference made me relax a bit, too. + you should never forget how many mock drafts work: bad secondary, they signed 2 Safetys, but only 1 Corner –> bingo. I’m pretty sure Howie would rather pick a Safety they like than a Corner they like in the 1st.

        But the best bets for #22 at the moment are, imho: OLB, WR or trade back.

        We need D-Line depth or a NT starter also, but I wouldn’t like that with the #22, either. Picks are very valuable and besides OLB or WR, there isn’t really a position I would pick in the first. I think trading back makes sense, if there are some offers.

        Personally I wouldn’t mind if there would a good Safety at #22. But I don’t know if Howie would see this the same way.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        agreed. we just added a 3rd “starting-caliber” corner, not to say any of the 3 are all that great. But all 3 are making good money, and will compete for 2 spots, not to mention Boykin (and this is assuming he won’t get a shot outside). Adding a 1st or 2nd rd corner creates that competition chip loves, but now you’re paying 3 of those 5 (and using a high draft pick) on CBs to sit on the bench in most base packages?

        • Richard Colton

          I’m in the “can’t have too many DBs; can’t have too many pass-rushers” camp.

          CB at #22 won’t get me standing up and cheering on draft night. But it’s a definitely a position that could stand an upgrade. We aren’t long-term locked at the position due to talent/age/salary. Like we’ve seen on the other side of the ball, they won’t let recent free agent signings dictate high draft picks.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I don’t disagree with any of that. But drafting a guy at 22, you’re starting him. We have 2 guys under contract, a fantastic nickel who may see snaps outside this year, and just signed our depth CB who can also compete for a starting job. Too many other needs for that 1st rounder.
            A ROLB will at least see plenty of snaps, take Graham’s role for instance, may even surpass Cole in camp and make him situation. A safety, although also upsetting to me for different reasons (don’t see anyone worth 22), would also come in and likely start, or have limited competition (mostly Wolff). WR would see plenty of snaps. If it’s Ebron, then Casey and Celek are never seeing the field (and Casey is pry gone). I’d be terribly upset if it is CB

          • Richard Colton

            Yeah – that’s the reason I won’t be standing up cheering. Well that and the fact that I’m taking off draft day and will begin drinking at 10AM.

            Here’s where I’ll disagree with you Rob: #22 may not start in a lot of our scenarios. Ebron starts the season behind Celek/Ertz. Martin may not beat Herremans out in camp. Cooks/ODB will factor early in the return game, neither one is beating out DJax/Maclin/Cooper in camp. We take KVN and he’s backing up 3 LB spots (not starting). Neither is Mosely. Dee Ford or Kony starts out at ROLB behind Cole and (barring a trade) Graham.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            (sigh) now I’m about to start drinking.
            I just think all these DB signings since Chip got here key in to him caring more about the front 7 and patching something back there. Hope I’m wrong.

          • Richard Colton

            I’m in the WR/OLB booster club. I just have resigned myself to the fact that the Eagles have a template they’re following.

          • GEAGLE

            They ain’t paying a 4th corner 1st round money. Believe tnat

          • Richard Colton

            Could wind up starting. Who knows? I don’t think anything about Carroll/Carey/Fletch would keep us from picking a CB. This group of CBs however, would keep me from picking one at #22.

        • cliff henny

          media sees no big names, thinks it’s position of need. they aren’t looking at how team’s being built.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Better not be, be pissed if they did, let’s sign 3 corners in 2 years then draft one :S
      I’m seeing later round steal that’d be great
      Barr, Mack, Ford, what other touted OLBs are gone in top 20?

      • GEAGLE

        Yup…we ain’t paying no corners first round monsy

  • cliff henny

    Schaub to Raiders. good, takes them out of d-jax sweepstakes. if jax got irritated he could out run Foles’ arm, wait till he gets saddled with Schaub’s.

    • oreofestar

      Yaya now we just gotta hope the Jets back the hell off

      • cliff henny

        ah, think it’s stupid, but if they are going to trade him, send him to Oakland, wont play them for 3 more years.by then, jax might have slowed a step, so only go for 200 and 3 tds against howie’s batting average secondary

  • Dad

    Prospects I would be ok drafting at 22:

    Dennard

    Clinton-Dix

    M. Lee

    Mosley

    Ealy

    Pryor

    Cooks

    Shazier

    Ford

    Fuller

    Jernigan

    • oreofestar

      I would add some guys and take some guys off this list

      • Dad

        Like who? All of these represent good value IMO. I could see taking off Ford.

        • oreofestar

          I would take off Jernigan, Shazier I love Fuller but not at 22, not as huge on Cooks kinda a stretch but I could live with it

          • Dad

            Jernigan, Shazier might not be scheme fits.

          • oreofestar

            Jernigan is a 4-3 DT to me, Shazier fits I just think that would be bad value I would only take him first round if we went back and got more picks

          • Dad

            Yeah, good points for sure. The 22 pick is so frustrating. Caught in between great players and players that aren’t worth that number. I think we need to trade out of that spot up or down.

          • oreofestar

            If we trade it would likely be down unless they are in love with Evans or Barr and they fall close and they trade but likely if they trade at all it would be into the late 20s-early 30s to stash on those mid round pick

          • Dad

            I would be absolutely pumped to trade down. The draft tapers off around 15 and then picks 15-40 or so seem to group together in my eyes. There are kids who might go 20th that I wouldn’t pick til 40 and vice versa.

        • Richard Colton

          Ford is the best player on your list.

          • Dad

            Yeah. I love him. But opinion seems to be mixed here…

          • oreofestar

            Ford….I just do not know why I have watched him and I really want to like him but I just do not like him as a 3-4OLB

          • Dad

            He is a good fit for our ROLB I think. He can get after the passer like not many can in this draft.

          • Richard Colton

            He sets the edge and has ideal bend. I understand the concern – he doesn’t look like Dion Jordan. Guy can play.

          • oreofestar

            I don’t know I am not attacking Ford I just watch him and I don’t love him a lot as a LB

          • Richard Colton

            Comes down to personal preference I guess. I suspect I have Ford rated a little higher than the Eagles will. If they are looking pass-rusher at #22 and it comes down to Kony, Ford, Attaouchou, etc… I’m picking Ford.

          • oreofestar

            In that case I am taking Kony but I am actually looking for a round 2 rusher because Attaouchou, Smith, KVN

          • Dad

            Me too. This is probably crazy but I would rather pick Ford at 22 then trade down and get Attaochu, Smith, or KVN. I think he is just that much more of a playmaker.

          • Token

            They likely dont even have him on the board because hes not 6’6. Shame. Could probably be a better pro than most of the taller guys they like over him. I just think he loves football. Which is a bonus. He wants to be great. You cant say that for a lot of these guys.

          • Richard Colton

            Yeah – I get the whole idea of not wanting physical exceptions at positions, but I’d rather have Dee Ford than Dion Jordan right now.

          • GEAGLE

            That’s crazy talk…both can’t set the edge yet…Dion brings way more then ford who can only rush the passer his first few years

          • Richard Colton

            Wait. When did you become a Dion Jordan fan?

          • GEAGLE

            No, he won’t be able to set the edge for a few years, ford needs to spend his first two years as a Nickle pass rusher. He is a liability against the run his first two years in the league(ATleast his rookie year)

          • Richard Colton

            Looked pretty good doing it in the Senior Bowl…but I’ll admit, didn’t watch his college games religiously.

          • cliff henny

            think Lee is. guy none of us discuss, but when he was w/ Barkley, kid freaking killed it

          • Dad

            Yeah, I think Lee is a top 5 reciever in the NFL in two or three seasons.

          • Richard Colton

            Just not excited about him as I am with Evans/ODB. Honestly, I’d prefer a trade down and taking a shot at WR KB.

          • cliff henny

            really? hate usc, but Lee’s route running puts odb to shame.

          • Dad

            i don’t get the KB love. I know he is huge but what does he bring that you can’t get out of a combo of Zach Ertz or Riley Cooper

          • oreofestar

            6-5 240 with mid 4.5 speed and a ton of upside I am not saying he will be great but that is an attractive player to take a shot at

          • Token

            Evans-Barr-Ford-Ebron

            Should be able to get one of those 4. Id be happy with that.

          • oreofestar

            I do not find it unrealistic that all 4 are gone, at least in that case it pushes other players down

          • Token

            Nobody is taking into account the big reaches that always happen. Not to mention the stupid QB picks. At least one of those 4 will be there IMO.

          • Dad

            Of those 4 I think the only realistic chance at 22 is Ford.

          • oreofestar

            Lets say 4 OL and 3 QB go, Clowney, Watkins, Evans, Another WR, Barr, Mack, a DT, Gilbert, At least one safety and insert random reach that is 17 picks and that left Ford, Ealy,Mosley, Dennard, a top 2 safety, a top 4 wr at least one would have to fall

          • Token

            Picking a corner in the 1st would be horrible. Picking either of those safeties in the 1st is horrible. If thats whats left then trade back.

          • Dad

            HAHA is worth the 22 pick. Definitely.

          • Token

            On name recognition he is. Not on skill level. Hes a 2nd round pick IMO. Rated higher because its a weak S group.

          • Dad

            I disagree. I feel like Pryor is rated higher than he should be. But I think HaHa is a rangy cover safety that can tackle. I think he is exactly what the eagles want at safety. Cover Cover Cover.

          • Token

            Its kind of pointless to think about anyway. No way are the Eagles spending a 1st on a safety. They cant be more clear that they dont value that position.

          • Dad

            This is a depressing truth haha It’s like you have chronic diahrea but do nothing about it because you don’t value diapers.

          • anon

            No they want a guy that can play everywhere that’s why they got jenkins instead of byrd

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I could not agree more with this.
            After rd 3, give me Dixon, Brooks, Reynolds or Bailey much later in the draft.

          • Dad

            The only issue is that none of these kids can cover man to man. They aren’t even close to Clinton-Dix in that aspect. HaHa moves like a corner.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Haha is a guy I like more than Pryor and Buchanon, but to me 22 is too high. Maybe if they trade back with SF and use him with their pick at 30. And I still don’t like Alabama DBs

          • Richard Colton

            Doesn’t matter because he’s the clubhouse leader for the “Most Likely To Be Reached For in 2014″ award. Doubt he makes it past 15.

          • Richard Colton

            you know how I feel man. Evans and Barr are pipe dreams. Ebron is an interesting name – adding Sproles/Ebron would create matchup nightmares.

          • cliff henny

            Ebron to Giants is mocked about 90% of the time.

          • Eagles1018

            I think the d-Jax trade thing is bs. So I hope we don’t go WR in the 1st. Of your list I’d like Ford or Barr. Why do we need Ebron?

          • Token

            Even with Jackson im fine with a WR pick. Ebron is potentially a game changing TE. Anyone could use that. Ertz isnt that kind of player. Celek is gone very soon. He basically functions as your big WR. I didnt even watch the kid until JofreyRice brought him up. But he looks good. Certainly can use some work still, but id be good with him in the 1st.

          • oreofestar

            I am hoping Desean stays lets just assume he does we will have a new wr by the end of day 2 regardless

          • Richard Colton

            B/C he’d be an upgrade. Not 100% that Casey makes the squad, and Celek’s on his last legs. I’d be fine with a Ebron pick, just don’t think he’ll last.

    • Richard Colton

      I see Jernigan as more of a 4-3 DT, less as a 3-4 DE. Shazier would be a total overdraft at #22, so I’m assuming we traded down to #32 to get him in your scenario. Lee & Cooks will probably be there at #22 and fall into the “safe but boring” category. Otherwise I’m OK with your list.

    • oreofestar

      Also if we are making a full list I would take Watkins, ODB, Benjamin and Evans at 22 along with Mack, barr, Gilbert, Clowney, Ebron,

      • Dad

        haha true

    • Sean

      Would really like to see Cooks in this offense… I think they have him on their radar as a possible DeSeasn replacement, depending upon how that goes.

    • Tom w

      Wouldn’t be happy w any of those guys nor do I think we take any of them but thanks

      • Dad

        Wow. None? Who would you be happy with saying we don’t trade out of 22?

        • oreofestar

          I’m confused…
          EDIT; Never mind

      • oreofestar

        then who the hell would you take at 22

    • Dad

      Had a dream last night we drafted an undersized no-name safety/special teamer with red frizzy hair from Oregon at 22. Woke up in a cold sweat.

      • Sean

        I had a dream we drafted an undersized MLB with goldie-locks from Oregon, oh wait…

  • oreofestar

    Why is n one here? :P do we need to whip out a Desean article

    • cliff henny

      they’re all desean articles, some just less blatant

      • oreofestar

        This is Desean article

    • Chris

      They managed to pepper it in anyway haha

  • Chris

    I know we complain a lot about how poorly they’ve drafted safeties, but I didn’t realize how much they’ve missed on drafting corners. ouch….

    • anon

      not sure why we even draft them anymore — might as well stick with your drafting strengths and buy talent

    • Richard Colton

      Not really fair. We whiffed on some 3rd round guys. Who are the last top 40 CBs we drafted? Sheldon Brown and Lito Shepard? Both of them wound up being outstanding picks.

      • Chris

        Fair. I guess my point was more based on the fact that we haven’t even drafted any talent TO miss on, we are just reliant on FA more than i realized. I guess you can’t successfully draft every position every year. I missed Sheldon when he left

        • Richard Colton

          Me too. Always remember that hit on Reggie Bush in the playoffs.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            It really was a thing of beauty. A nice “welcome to the league”.

          • Chris

            Was going to say the same thing! One of my favorite all-time hits

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Why does it seem like that duo just didn’t last all that long?

        • RIP illa

          Cuz Banner screwed over Shepard with his stingy tactics. Broke up what was a real good thing. Had Shep who could cover deep and Brown who could cover short and tackle. Plus we had great safety play behind them. Was so pissed when we broke up that secondary.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Reason #178 why we hate Joe Banner.

          • Richard Colton

            I hate his face

          • RIP illa

            That was so simple, yet so good!!!

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Probably in the top 5.

  • Jimmie

    22 Dee Ford Auburn OLB
    54 Deone Bucannon Washington State S
    86 Martavis Bryant Clemson WR
    118 Brett Smith Wyoming QB
    150 Daniel McCullers Tennessee DT
    214 Shaquille Richardson Arizona CB

    Wish we had more picks, still need an ILB, G, and possibly RB, but I’d be very happy with this mock draft. What do you guys think?

    • oreofestar

      DAT 2nd pick

      • Sean

        won’t he drop to 3rd round tho?

        • oreofestar

          No way…he probably will not even be there for our 2nd

          • Dad

            De’Anthony? He is at best a late third rounder.

          • oreofestar

            no I was saying that second pick, you know dat second pick

          • Sean

            lmao – exactly thought you meant D’Ant

          • Dad

            OOOOH haha

          • oreofestar

            DAT is a Day 3 pick IMO

    • Dad

      You just said below you would not be happy with any of the people on my list but then chose Ford with 22nd?

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I just do not share the same amount of enthusiasm many have towards Dee Ford. Not that I don’t like the player. I just have concerns that I have yet to see anyone else share and I see better value, better versatility & less projecting with other prospects.

  • cliff henny

    Wow, Schaub’s contract is ’14-11m ’15-13m ’16-15m…be interesting to see what Kaep gets, mostly due to setting Foles market.

    • Richard Colton

      That team is going to self destruct this year. Wouldn’t mind trading #22 for their 2nd this year and their 1st in ’15. Could be a top 10 pick.

      • cliff henny

        signed like 7 FA over 28 just this off-season. anti-eagles

        • RIP illa

          They had no choice. That roster is/was barren.

          • cliff henny

            think they are eating money just trying to get to cap floor. send jax out to Oakland and let that noodle arm toss lob balls to jax, be fun to see that train wreck.

          • RIP illa

            Lol. Not enough fun for me to get rid of Djax.

          • cliff henny

            me either. Jax must have really pissed Kelly off if landing destinations are Cleveland jets and Oakland.

          • Dominik

            Reunion with Marty and Vick doesn’t scream nightmare for DJax, I think. Cleaveland and Oakland, on the other hand – that would be a case for the International Court of Justice.

          • RIP illa

            For real. However, I do get to see my fair share number of Jets games and I wouldn’t mind seeing him teamed up with Decker and possibly Vick. Still think that team needs to draft another WR to beat out Hill and move him to the 4th WR spot. Plus they should Draft a TE fairly high.

    • RIP illa

      At least they finally got a decent FA pick up. I understand how they blew up the team to unload waste, but still can’t believe how they let Veldeher and Houston get away and the lack of going after some of the top tier FAs.

    • aub32

      Kaep should get more than what Foles will command at this point. Foles still has to win in the playoffs before commanding 18M/year

      • LookinAtMyGucci

        Agreed. Hope Foles gets one this year but I won’t be mad, for contract reasons, if it’s not more than that.

      • cliff henny

        oh man, Foles making 700k and Howie’s in the batting cage at least trying to hit overhead pitches….Foles gets 16m, lordy, we’ll be hoping for ten feet away underhand slow pitch batting average

        • LookinAtMyGucci

          Foles contract in 3 yrs won’t be a big deal when the salary cap is pushing 160. Decent signing bonus and keep the money lower in the first two years so the ballooning means less by year 3 and there’s nothing to worry about. It’d be same batting average approach. Foles money in the next two years is courtesy of Trent Cole.

          • cliff henny

            trent gets them 1/2 there. if eagles’ splash signing when starting qb is making 700k is 2yr contract for 4m/per, off-season is going to be crickets when Foles is banking 15m

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Say he get 5/75. What’s the guaranteed portion? Call it 30 with 15 in signing bonus. 3/yr in cap hit via proration, 5 guaranteed in ’15 salary, that’s 8, 8 more in salary in year ’16 for 11mil in cap, and only 2 more is guaranteed for ’17 and by then it won’t matter if he’s getting 10 more on top of that for a cap hit of 15 mil because by ’17 the cap hit is going to be in the 160s.

          • Dominik

            I don’t want to offend you, but calculating with a cap in the 160s sounds like a thing Jerry Jones would do to re-sign his solid #4 WR to a huge new contract.

          • LookinAtMyGucci

            Projecting cap is one thing. But if it were truly a Jerry Jones thing to do, I’d be talking about giving Foles 25/year. 133 in ’14, low to mid 140’s in ’15, low to mid 150’s in ’16, 160s in ’17. Far from unrealistic, so, no offense taken.

    • Dominik

      Yeah, Kaeps contract is in interest for the Eagles. But even if Kaep gets his 18m/year average, Foles shouldn’t. Like aub32 wrote, Kaep gets 18m because he was the QB of a team that lost a very close SB and lost a very close CCG last season. I don’t like him that much, but that’s success.

      • cliff henny

        even if Foles gets 90%, wait till Howie has to work around that contract.

        • Dominik

          I think Howie is working around that already (anticipating it). I don’t think it will be much worse than that.

          • cliff henny

            sure he is. man knows his cap. have couple other guys to sign. but wont be much in new FA being brought in.

    • Maggie

      I believe NFL Network said Schaub is out and Fitzpatrick is in to mentor the QB they plan on drafting.

  • RIP illa

    Still holding out hope for my boy Ealy. Killed it at his pro day. He put up an 4.57u 40 but his averages got him in the 4.6 range which reflects more of what he looks like on tape. His 3 cone, which was already excellent at the combine, matched our own Shady. And he worked out as both DE and OLB.

    I doubt we get him, cuz it seems he has just blazed up his draft stock. But the Kid is a BEAST and has all the tools to be a dominant pass rusher. The size to beat up tackles and make QBs hurt and the athleticism and change of direction to handle the OLB spot for the 20% of times when he drops back. But who truly knows at what number he will go. I’m hoping we have a shot.

    My favs for the 1st round, who I think we could possibly have a shot at getting, are now…
    ODB
    Shazier
    Barr
    Ealy
    and maybe Ward

    • GEAGLE

      Cowboys have no choice but to draft him. Do they even have any DEs on the roster?

  • oreofestar

    Just did a nice Cowboys draft

    Round 1 Pick 16: Will Clarke, DE, West Virginia (D)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson (F)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Pat O’Donnell, P, Miami (Fla.) (F)
    Round 4 Pick 19: Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU (B)
    Round 5 Pick 18: Zac Kerin, C, Toledo (F)
    Round 7 Pick 14: Kenny Guiton, QB, Ohio State (F)
    Round 7 Pick 16: Chris Coyle, FB, Arizona State (C-)
    Round 7 Pick 23: Rob Blanchflower, TE, Massachusetts (B-)

    • cliff henny

      2nd round is reserved for backup TE bust.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      you know they’re trading up to get a G, right? pair with their 1st rd C for the “greatest OL ever”

    • Richard Colton

      You only took one punter, could be issues with depth there. May want to consider a second one.

      And “Blanchflower” had me cracking up. Is he a real player? Is David LeFleur still in the league? Maybe they can run a 2 TE set with those guys.

      • oreofestar

        Branchflower is a real player, his name got him drafted

      • Maggie

        Doesn’t Atlanta or someone practice in Flowering Branch? Good one on LeFleur.

        • Richard Colton

          I’d expect a Canadian to know all about a “LeFleur” – Guy or no Guy.

          • Maggie

            Guy was quite a few years ago, but I was a Canadiens fan back then. Who wouldn’t be? The talent! All those Stanley Cups! Of course I was much younger then and had a minor long-distance crush on one of them. Lol.

    • oreofestar

      Also Mettenburger is being converted to guard

  • Goombachiphi

    Something untoward has happened. I agree with Ashely Fox… again.

    • Dominik

      When I read Ashley Fox, I think about the fake Ashley Fox on Igglesblitz.

  • eaglefansocal

    Being a sparti fan I believe Darqueze Dennard would be great with pick 22. He is fast enough, a great tackler, and as tough as they come.