Eagles Bring Nate Allen Back

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Nate Allen surveyed the landscape, and after four years characterized by change, he decided he wouldn’t mind some familiarity in 2014.

“I was just playing the waiting game,” Allen said after signing a one-year, $2 million deal with the Eagles. “I really wasn’t trying to get all worked up and stressed out about free agency. I knew the Lord had a plan for me and I just kind of sat back and let everything fall into place. There was a couple other teams I talked to. At the end of the day I knew my heart was here in Philly and this is where I wanted to be, especially with the one-year thing going on.”


Allen has played for four different defensive coordinators in four NFL seasons. He showed some promise as a rookie, struggled in 2011 and 2012 and bounced back last season, starting all 16 games under Billy Davis.

The 26-year-old didn't show enough last season to convince the coaches he is an ideal starting-caliber option going forward. Instead, this move should be viewed more as a value/depth play. Allen had almost a week to test the market, and in the end, decided returning to the Eagles on a one-year/$2 million deal was his best option.

"I was open for anything," he said of the one-year deal. "That's what the Eagles were offering."

The Eagles did away with the wide-nine 4-3 and moved to a 3-4 last year. That meant less run responsibilities for the safeties. Allen's tackling got better under the new coaching staff, and he put together probably his best NFL season.

"It was huge," he said, when asked about scheme familiarity. "Especially because like I said, with a one-year deal, obviously my best bet would probably be to come back in a system that I already understood and had been a part of for a year. So I'm just gonna hit the ground running and keep learning and keep improving. I'm excited to be back here in Philly."

As we've been pointing out all offseason, the Eagles need bodies at the safety position. They've got one starter in Malcolm Jenkins. Presumably, Allen and Earl Wolff will compete for the other spot. And special teamer Chris Maragos offers depth.

"At this level you always come in with an attitude to start," Allen said. "You know you're gonna have to compete for the position. I understand that, and I know that, and that's how it's been the past four years that I've been there."

The Eagles also have Keelan Johnson on the roster.

These moves do not preclude the Eagles from drafting a safety early in May. Allen's deal is for one year, and the team has had trouble finding talent at the position for five-plus offseasons. If they see a college prospect they like - such as Alabama's Ha Ha Clinton-Dix or Louisville's Calvin Pryor - they'll pull the trigger.

In the meantime, Allen provides some depth and insurance.

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  • Will

    Howie you can’t find a better Safety than Nate Allen? You deserve all the white whale talk …you are clueless when it comes to great Safety play….Jenkins can’t do it all by himself…

    • GEAGLE

      Wolff should run circles around Nate in camp this year

      • Will

        I figure Maragos beats them both out for the starting job…

        • GEAGLE

          I think Wolff gonna surprise us…he going to know his responsibilities much better next year which should allow him to put all that athleticism on display. Doubt Nate will be much competition for Wolff in year two. If Wolff is the real deal Holyfield he will blow Nate out of camp..if Nate can hang with him. We have problems

    • cliff henny

      1m, man that’s deactivate money. might not be any guarantee, he could be fighting in pr-season just to make 53

      • Will

        lol…that would be too funny if he doesn’t make the 53 man roster…if he doesn’t start at Safety does he contribute on ST in any way?

  • GEAGLE

    If he was that desperate that he signed this 1yr 1mil..we should have made him give us year two(with no dead money) :)

    Can’t wait to see him play ST lol #TRAINWRECK!!!

    • cliff henny

      not like he’ll increase his value. guy is lifetime 1yr minimum contract guy from now on. really thought someone would toss him 3yr deal with couple yrs guaranteed. guess it was just too obvious he’s not that good, even for dumb desperate GMs

      • GEAGLE

        Same, I’m shocked some dope didn’t give him a 3yr deal considering how starved teams are at the postion…he can spend the rest of his career here if he wants to be a 4th safety, who takes one year cheap deals for the rest of his career….I’m just skeptical about Chip putting up with his ST play as a 4th safety…truth be told, I would rather have Chung back on a 1y 2mil deal instead of Nate. ATleast when Chung doesnt win a starting spot, we can get him to bring it on ST..as a safety, I doubt either is much better then the other

        • cliff henny

          see if eagles draft a guy. 3 spots are a lock in MJ, Wolff and Maragos. draft guy would almost have to be also, couldn’t even protect POS Oregon state guy, who’s name I cant recall, on the practice squad. so, now you are putting him as 5th/deactivate 6th guy (53 vs active, you know numbers generally?). this could just be 2m if you can beat out and make starter, if not, enjoyed having you in camp.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah I’m def not assuming he makes the roster

  • ztom6

    So it will be Jenkins and then a camp battle between Wolff, Allen, and a likely draft pick (Pryor?) Some will be disappointed, but that’s still much more promising than what they had last year. They actually look like they’ll have decent depth at both CB and S.

    • Will

      Maragos/Wolff/Allen pulling for Chris Maragos…

      • ztom6

        If he beats out the other guys, great.

    • dnabrice

      If Boykin is the slot…Is Maragos the 1st sub for the outside?

      • Will

        Nolan at CB maybe….I see Jenkins/Maragos as are starting Safeties this year…

  • Stuart Philp

    1mil seems fair. He isn’t the greatest, but he’s a solid backup and is already familiar with the system.

    • Septhinox

      $1m is an excellent value for a backup/depth safety. People poopooing this move show that they really have no clue about things.

      • cliff henny

        probably just more the name, and disappointment for 2nd rdr. if it was similar talented player, be viewed much differently. just been kicking the guy around for 2 or 3 yrs, tough to be excited about resigning him

        • Andy124

          It’s a helluva lot better than asking Coleman or Anderson to step in in case of emergency.

          • cliff henny

            yup, fine with this. sure he’s coming in with full understanding of new role. honestly, outside name, it’s a nothing to see here signing.

          • GEAGLE

            How little do we think of Chris Clemons who has great size, that we could have had him for two years and keep passing on him?

          • GEAGLE

            Yup..I have no problem with replacing back end guys, and sliding everyone down the depth chart, til they are all replaced with draft picks(but gradually so we don’t have to take 2steps back initially playing a rook, to eventually take 3 steps forward)
            ..
            Didn’t think we could get Nate cheap enough for this to be realistic. I can’t believe he had to sign this deal..like that’s bad

    • Johnny Domino

      Cheap and easy, always in favor of that.

      • miketd1

        I like my safeties like I like my women

  • Blocking Back

    Who would have wanted more years at this rate -Eagles or Allen?

    • Dominik

      Best bet would be no side. I don’t think lenght was the issue here. ;)

      • GEAGLE

        We should have made him give us year two option(with no dead money) just in case he surprised us

  • jabostick

    Seems like a worthwhile signing given the money, his familiarity with the scheme etc. I know this will come off as overly optimistic, but I wonder if a guy like Jenkins (who, by all accounts is a very smart, QB of the back end, kind of guy) will take the pressure off Allen and Wolff a bit.

    I know everyone (myself included) wanted a home run this offseason but if we could get by with a competent safety duo (the kind that would mostly go unnoticed – for good and bad), I could live with that. I think that is doable with what we currently have, even though I’d take another Safety in the draft if it was a good spot for it.

    • jabostick

      *Full disclosure: I stupidly bought an Allen jersey (he was my rebound relationship after Dawk left) his rookie season and will try to justify it as long as possible.

      • GEAGLE

        Condolences

      • Shane Brown

        I feel for you. Feeling the same about my brandon graham jersey right now

        • GW.Fisher

          My #54 Brandon Graham jersey & I feel your pain…

        • GEAGLE

          My boy has a Kolbb so no one should feel too bad

          Thankfully Celek made it ok to where my authentic Brent again. I didn’t wear it once in 2012

        • jabostick

          Apparently the Saints safety Bush took #25 when he joined so that all the Saints fans with Reggie Bush jerseys didnt have to ditch them haha. Smart move actually. he instantly had a huge fan base.

      • cliff henny

        never commit to the rebound, should know better, Jabo

        • jabostick

          Ha, I know I should. What can I say, a man can do some strange things off a few beers, some old Dawkins youtube highlights and reading Mel Kiper draft grades.

          • Richard Colton

            wasn’t just the rebound – you WANTED that McNabb trade to work out for the Eagles, didn’t you?

      • Shane Brown

        Did anybody else by a lesean mccoy jersey back when he was #29? That was a mistake by me too. Im a total screw up when it comes to buying jerseys

      • Bracey

        It’s okay, I bought a Samuels jersey a month before we traded him. Oh and a DRC jersey when we first got him.

      • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

        Hey at least your gonna still get some use out of it for another year…my Nnamdi Asomugha jersey has sit in the closet for 2 years brand new and I can’t even give it away for free. #worstJerseypurchaseever

        • jabostick

          Touche

    • JofreyRice

      eh, I’m just hanging my hat on the offense. That’s who they want to be. I want an offense that can go shot for shot with New Orleans, and outgun the middling offenses of Seattle, Carolina, & SF. Let them get tired scoring points on our defense, and run it up on them.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        they may also feel that DL/rush is key to the defense. Rather than upgrade secondary heavy, get serviceable starters (B and C type players) and hope a confusing, variable front 7 makes life easy for them, like the ’11 giants. Makes some sense, considering
        (1) DL is strongest position
        (2) we know Davis is a creative blitzer
        (3) likely to get at least 1, pry 2 LBs in draft
        (3) If we’re scoring and other team has to pass more to catch up, allows rushers to “tee off “

        • JofreyRice

          They wouldn’t be alone in that thinking. Hopefully they can make some move that brings in more draft picks–without making the team significantly worse–because my grocery list of players is too long for just 6 selections. I think they gotta come out of this draft with at least one of the WR’s. Too much talent to pass up.

          I’m not sure they can stand pat and get an edge player at 22 that can have an impact right away. Trading up would have to cost more picks, and without free agency as an avenue to add talent, you need those picks to build your team. Maybe, like you said, the long term plan is to add edge guys to generate pass rush and we see the effects of it a few years down the line. 3rd and 4th rounders that can contribute in ’15 or ’16. We know Lurie had a lot of patience for Andy’s 5 year plan. Chip seems more straightforward and competitive, but does he project that far out, as well?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            He can only make so many changes. Last year they had to rebuild an entire secondary and switch to a completely different scheme. This year, they’re cleaning out more trash and getting some “Chip guys” until he can draft and groom them.
            Of course we all want to see more picks. Of course we all want guys stepping in day 1 and making big contributions. But that’s just not smart from a franchise perspective.
            Will we do well this year? sure. Will we compete for SB? pry not. It took Carroll 4 years in SEA, and they still had to luck into a cheap QB to ensure success.

          • JofreyRice

            Agree to an extent. I think they might be spinning their wheels a bit in garbage-picking one season only to clear out trash the next. I think in the next few years, we’ll see another philosophical change in that thinking, but we shall see.

            Schneider and Carroll were really aggressive in churning that roster through draft picks. If we’re looking for that kind of overhaul, I think it’s time to start dealing the guys that don’t fit, and have no future here. If the idea is to make this defense all about the passrush, they have a lot of work to do in adding passrushers. I’d argue our two best rushers are doing something else as their primary responsibility. Kendricks makes the most out of blitzes, but isn’t doing that consistently, and Cox is two-gapping on 2 downs.

          • Token

            Cant upvote this enough.

          • Adam G

            Agreed, only problem is that it doesn’t seem like Chip wants to do that. He can’t help himself with this offense.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I think it’s time to start dealing the guys that don’t fit, and have no future here.

            agree wholeheartedly

        • Token

          But you dont get the rush out of your DL in this scheme. You get it out of your OLBS, which we currently have no pass rushers at.

          Unless he plans on switching to a one gap 3-4 system. I remember him talking about the 4-3 Under system but not much seemed to come of it.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            yes I’m well aware. But unless DL controls LOS, OLBs are struggling. see pt. 3

          • Token

            It would seem that with their current line players a 4-3 Under system that Davis seems to like would work out better. But im guessing Kelly is overruling him? A guy like Cox is much less valuable in this 2 gap system I think.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            that’s an option. Makes sense the did less of it last year, we already knew how to 1gap and they needed to teach 2gap. You learn by experience, 10,000 reps.
            Now, able to do both, they have more flexibility play-to-play. We saw some of the elaborate fire blitzes, from slot to ILB. Only expect more this year.

      • cliff henny

        welcome to the dark side my friend! defense is just out there to give us a break, get cold beer, check other scores, and refill the chips bowl

      • Token

        Yep thats what we are looking at. Stockpile the offense. Make up a D with middling FAs and mid round draft picks and hope they can be average.

        Im still not getting a confident feeling that Billy Davis is the guy that can make it average enough with such little talent, but we shall see.

        • JofreyRice

          I’m not even sure some of the starters on defense are good enough to be called “middling”. I think some of them are “bottomling”. Like you mentioned, guys like Pat Chung leave here and the league simultaneously. How close was Nate Allen to looking for work in the insurance sales industry?

          • Token

            I dont see the positive in bringing a proven bum back personally. You already know what he is as a player. Not much. Id rather be wasting roster spots on low picks and UDFAs that you think fit system and you can coach up.

            I dont see the value in wasting all these roster spots on either proven bums or other teams former ST aces that cant play NFL positions. Before long, you have no depth and arent growing the amount of young talent you could be. You should be finding your own ST aces in the form of your own young UDFAs and picks.

            But somehow im a moron for thinking that way. Maybe im missing something. But I dont think its the way to build a solid overall team. You are crippling your bottom half if theres never any potential there. I was thinking, how many non Eagles starters on the roster can you project as a NFL starter someday? I couldnt think of any.

  • GEAGLE

    Lol his rookie deal paid him on average 1.28mil per year…

  • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

    Hey for a veteran backup/depth who played in Davis’ system not bad for the price…Now you got to get a safety in the draft unless they think bringing a quality pass rusher can mask what we have back there.

  • GEAGLE

    What are examples of schedule 4 prescription drugs?

    • andrew

      benzos

    • Tikkit

      Schedules are set up by pharmacologic use and the possibility of addiction. IE Cocaine is a schedule 1: no medical use and high addiction whereas Tylenol III(with codeine) is a schedule 4: Analgesic and low incidence of addiction.

      • GEAGLE

        Tylenol 3′s are schedule 4? Then what’s Vicodin, or fentanyl? Schedule 5?

        • Tikkit

          Fentanyl is pretty powerful stuff. I’m almost positive it’s a 2/3. Vicodin is a 3.

          Edit: Going off of recall of my Pharm class.

          • GEAGLE

            So him getting caught with schedule 4 means he got caught with weaker meds then Vicodin? I

          • Tikkit

            Exactly.

          • GEAGLE

            Wow…weird

          • Gibby

            You are correct, Fentanyl is a class II, and very potent at that.

  • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

    Im pulling the Geagle- called it!

    • GEAGLE

      Barry Finkle approves

    • D-Von Funk

      I also supported the notion that Allen would be back in midnight green. Geagle, on the other hand, all but guaranteed Allen wouldn’t be back.

      • Will

        Other than Howie’s offer Nate Allen was out of football and stocking shelves at the local Walmart. This is not over Nate now has to crack the 53 man roster which would be hard with out playing ST if he doesn’t win one of the starting jobs at Safety.

        • D-Von Funk

          I would tend to agree with you for the most part, but we didn’t give him the minimum and we brought him back RELATIVELY early in free agency. So whether we were bidding against ourselves or not, there was at least a concern we wouldn’t get him back (unfounded, or not). Howie didn’t want to chance it, is how it would appear to me.

          I’ve said numerous times in this thread already that I’m not convinced Nate can be an effective special teamer. So unless he wins a starting gig, or we’re going to use a ton of 3 safety looks, I’m not convinced Nate’s a lock to make this team.

          • Will

            Agree wholeheartedly Nate’s not a lock….

          • GEAGLE

            That’s not how it appeared to me AT ALL. If we thought we could get Nate to sign this deal, he would have been extended before he hit the market like All the eagles we valued. Most of us thought some fool would give him a 4yr 12mil deal..at this cheap price, why not? My only gripe is if Nate had so little leverage obviously of he wouldn’t have signed this.wish we could have gotten a year Two option for him, just in case he shock us and really builds off last year…
            ..
            As bad as Nate and Chung are, not to many teams have a better 4th safety then them….can’t wait to watch him play ST in the preseason

          • D-Von Funk

            I assumed that no team on the open market valued him more than we did, which is why I figured he’d be back. So he tested the market, saw there was none for him, and came crawling back.

            We probably presented that offer to him prior to free agency and he thought he’d test the market- and knowing Howie- he honored it still, knowing we probably could’ve given him less in the end. That’s purely speculation on my behalf but it wouldn’t surprise me. It’s one of those situations where familiarity between the two sides (on and off the field) probably sealed it. The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t, or however that saying goes…

            All that being said, I don’t see Nate shocking us, even with a year in the system under his belt. I think he is what he is at this point. BUT, if there was ever the season to do it, it would be this one, so who knows. Here’s to wishful thinking!

    • GEAGLE

      When our options are Bush(who I know nothing about), Clemons who I know we don’t want, major wright…bringing back a dude who knows the defense is credible camp competition for Earl Wolff! and is ATleast someone you can throw into a game if need be, unlike the Kurt Coleman’s or Colt Anderson’s..bringing back Nate probably isn’t the end of the world. It’s good to have two credible(somewhat) veterans….only safety we could have gotten that I would drastically want more then Nate is Ihendigbo, but I never really viewed him as realistic because he is going to get a starting job with the Lions..

      As much as I despise the way Nate plays safety, id rather see him on the roster then Keelan. Can’t complain considering what we paid for him. I just HATE the one year deals. It’s not like I want Nate here Longterm! but get a team option for a second year with no dead money if we are dealing with players with little to minimum leverage..
      ….
      Have a feeling Nates ST play Is going to drive Fipp crazy lol. When you consistently hesitate and get trucked by running backs, I’m not so sure you are wired to run down field and crush people on kickoffs. If we have to deal with more Nate, I’m hoping he plays a ton of ST during the preseason, should be good for comedic relief…doubt he plays with the ones during preseason.

      It’s no secret that we want some 3 safety looks…for those that haven’t noticed, Boykin wasn’t ALWAYS on the field in Nickle…if we wanted to play 3 safeties, when our options were Chung,a rookie and Nate, then I think it’s safe to say it’s a look our DC wants to use in the future when he gets better personel…

      Give anything to know what offers if any, Nate got. The consensus was that safety is such a problem league wide that someone would offer him some Chung fringe starter money on a few year deals…if he only going to cost 1mil per year…he can be our 4th safety for the next 3 years as far as I’m concerned..Nate and Chung suck as starters, but as bad as they are, not many teams have a better 4th safety….

      If he took this deal, what the hell is major wright or Clemons going to sign for?

      • D-Von Funk

        I feel pretty confident in saying the interest in Nate was likely minimal, at best. Then again, we didn’t give him the minimum, so who knows.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        stopped at your 1st paragraph, but that’s my point exactly

      • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

        Agree on Ihedigho at least he would have took someones head off going over the middle. I’ve been doing some production work with him the last year…guy is a solid dude/high character guy. Would have been great for the Eagles locker room.

      • Rick H

        Ha Geagle I told you remember!

      • greensoul

        Just two comments: Not sure we’ll go with three safeties now that we have some depth at CB. Nate is good to have as insurance. No need for us to reach in either FA or the draft. Excellent move by Howie.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    Good

  • Bird of Prey

    One year deal is OK. I think everybody forgets his first couple of seasons he garbage for coaches. Looks like he made leaps in coverage and tackling last year with decent coaching. If he plays better this year, then it was a good idea.

    • GEAGLE

      Which is why I would have liked a year two option as insurance incase our coaches are miracle workers

      • cliff henny

        hopefully he never sees field. then is begging for same contract next year.

  • Will

    Nate Allen day 7 in FA signing i wonder if a single team beside the Eagles were interested…

  • James Hathaway

    I actually like it. Depth signing, and he was vastly improved over previous years. If we have a nagging injury, we could do far worse than having Nate Allen off the bench.

    • JofreyRice

      yep. Could have done a lot better in free agency, but this is the bed they made. I like the idea of Wolff having competition with at least a low-level starter.

    • stamtown

      agreed, was hoping for this exact outcome. Knows the system and maybe on a one year deal he starts knocking on some of that potential we saw his rookie year before the injury

  • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

    This is the draft I am seeing. What you guys think?

    Rd 1: Dee Ford
    Rd 2: Deone Bucannon
    Rd 3: Donte Moncrief
    Rd 4: Christian Jones
    Rd 5: CB for Depth
    Rd 7: Guard for depth

    • will

      Not sure if Deone Bucannon will be available in the 2nd round when we pick. But thats who I’m hoping we land.

      • dmancine9

        at this point, I’d take Bucannon with the 22nd pick. i think Dix and Pryor will be gone. but that being said, he’s my favorite safety in the draft anyway

        • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

          I couldn’t be happy about that unless we traded out of 22. I would take ford, ealy, or a WR. The strength of this draft is in the middle rds.

        • ztom6

          I don’t know what you guys see in Bucannon. @ 22 that’s just crazy.

          • dmancine9

            what don’t you see in Bucannon?

          • ztom6

            the kind of talent you spend a first round pick on.

      • cliff henny

        from signings, i’m not sure Eagles will use a 2nd rd resource on safety. seems like we should be looking at4th/5th rd guys.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          YES
          no safety worth a 3rd or higher pick. the guys at the top are waaaay overrated.

          • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

            I like the kid from baylor in the middle rds.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            same. Still high on Ward/Joyner, but I think their are “potential” guys, like Wolff last year, who could use a year of coaching. If Allen is the 3rd safety until they’re ready, I can still sleep at night

          • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

            Agreed. I would grab joyner if he is there in the 4th but thats it probably.

          • TOm W

            Complete agreement. Plus we know we suck at identifying safeties from college.

      • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

        Wouldn’t mind this variation either:

        Rd 1: Kony Ealy
        Rd 2: Deone Bucannon
        Rd 3: Donte Moncrief
        Rd 4: Christian Jones
        Rd 5: CB for Depth
        Rd 7: Guard for depth

        • Tom W

          Appears Ealy is more of a 4-3 d end than a 3-4 olb

    • oreofestar

      I do not even like Dee Ford but I would love this draft simply because of picks 2-4

    • ICDogg

      As long as you’re doing that with the 1st three picks the rest of the should all have first names that begin with the letter “D” also

    • Tom W

      Buchanon won’t be BUA or BPA at 54. Unfortunately because our FO went w just jenkins we are forced to speculate about safety at 22 and 54.

      Been reading alot about Ford’s edge rushing in college not really being that great when compared to others and that he has no idea or care about playing the run. Plus he is kinda short and stubby like cole … doubt we take him.

      Really doubt Moncrief gets outta the second after his monster combine and also doubt Christian Jones falls to the fourth. all wishful thinking.

      Don’t see anyone taking Barr if Titans don’t … cards and pack could but they have much bigger needs at safety, oline, etc.

      If we are forced to stay at 22 (which I think is highly unlikely)

      1) a) Barr OR b) ODB/Benjamin
      2) a) KVN or Matthews or attaboy/marcus smith
      3) Christian Jones or Martavius Bryant or clemson otackle
      4) Barrow or McGill or Desir or Landry
      5) Dontae Johnson or Halapio or guard from lsu or UVA DE
      7) Colt or Wyoming qb or ARK DT

  • Andy

    I like this move a lot.

    • Will

      The Eagles had little choice….no one else out there in FA . At least the Eagles know what they have in Nate Allen….and really do not have to draft a Safety now in this years draft…

  • hrtak

    Cant see Wolff and Allen competition. Wolff is more SS and Allen FS. I see Allen as Jenkins backup. Or as player in 3 Safety lineups

    • D-Von Funk

      I disagree. I think they brought Allen back to compete for a starting gig. I just don’t see him being a real contributor on special teams, and he’ll have to be that if he’s a backup. That being said, if they add a rookie safety and he makes the team, and Wolff outplays Allen, does Allen even see the 53-man roster?

      • CJ

        There is no SS and FS in this scheme. There’s left and right. Both safeties are expected to be capable of doing everything.

        As to the Funk’s point, I agree. This guarantees Allen nothing.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      Kelly has said numerous times he plays L/R safety. People get too hung up in FS/SS.

  • cliff henny

    is there any guaranteed money? 1m is chump change in today’s NFL. at best, would pencil him in for 53.

    • CJ

      Was wondering about the guaranteed $ myself. This doesn’t preclude a high pick on a safety, but I like the move for the price. Shows what the league thinks of him that this is the best he could do though.

    • GreenScabs

      Where is everyone hearing/reading that this one year deal for Nate is for $1 million? Many people have mentioned it, but I see it being reported as a one year $2 mil deal with a chance to be a $3 mil deal through incentives (playing time, etc.). I would love for it to be a $1 mil deal, but I can’t find that anywhere.

  • oreofestar

    I really do not think the Eagles want to draft safety early, if Pryor was at 22 I would not be surprised if the Eagles still do not draft him. I love Jimmie Ward but he will be gone at 54 and the Eagles would not draft him anyway the Eagles have shown major interest in Deonne lots of our scouts were watching him at the senior bowl and we brought him in for a private visit. Hopefully we draft one in the first 2 rounds but I woud not bet on it

  • ICDogg

    Gotta do what ya gotta do.

  • oreofestar

    Eagles have shown A TON of interest in Buucannon maybe they are planning on trading back to get him bottom of the first and add an extra pick..who knows? but if we come into camp with Jenkins/Wolf/Allen/Buncannon/Maragos while not a great safety group it would still be a HUGE improvement on what we had

    • dmancine9

      Bucannon would be ideal in the late 1st/early 2nd. especially adding picks by trading back

      • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

        Bucannon is not a first or high 2nd pick. That would be a reach IMO. He is tight in the hips in coverage. More of a 1 dimensional box safety. Not what the eagles are looking to spend that high of a pick on. I think Dontae Johnson out of NCSTATE is more of the chip kelly type guy and could be gotten in rds 4-6 somewhere. Better value. Fast and can cover.

        • Philly0312

          Senior Bowl rep on Buchanan is that he is the best cover safety in the Draft. Obviously there is film to say otherwise, but we all know the Eagles love to Draft players who participated in the senior bowl.

    • Tom W

      That would be a reach. Buchanon is by no means a late first or early second. lets not force a safety pick in first or second when this safety class is much worse than last year and identifying good safeties is a crap shoot and Buchanon is more of a strong safety/box safety who was barely asked to cover in man in college. physically gifted though.

      Jimmie ward is closer to a hybrid safety or someone later like Dontae Johnson.

      Luckily Pryor and Haha will both be gone by 22. And anyway the talent at wr and edge rusher and ilb will probably be stronger at 22 and 54 so we don’t have to consider a safety.

      • Richard Colton

        I see it the same way. In a way, it’s going to make draft night even more interesting than last year. Was pretty anti-climactic after Lane was picked 30 minutes in.

      • JofreyRice

        I agree with your thinking here. Ward would fit if the measurables were there, but it seems they are fixated on bigger guys, regardless of ability.

        Dontae Johnson probably has more what they’re looking for. 6’2, experience at cornerback, good workout numbers. Versatile player with some athletic traits and a ton of versatility, based on what I’ve read. Basically another Malcolm Jenkins. Probably a 4th or 5th rounder, don’t have to invest too much. I’m still trying to figure out these guys, but it certainly seems like an Eagles pick.

    • John E. Zang

      Mark my words they will not draft a safety high. They will go receiver in the first which I’m all for. Ideally, trading down to draft Mike Evans using Desean Jackson. I’d pull the trigger for the other teams first rounder and second rounder, while giving up our first and Desean. Get rid of the sour puss, little kid and get a big, tough and explosive wideout. Our offense would be unstoppable.

  • Will

    At least the Eagles have added 2 new faces to the Safety group…

  • ICDogg

    Schedule 4 prescription drugs are felonies? Those are one step from over the counter drugs. Schedule 2 are the drugs like Oxy-Contin, Percocet. Schedule 3 is Vicodin (though they were talking about bumping that to schedule 2). But Schedule 4 narcotics are stuff like phenobarbitol.

    Hell, I better check my car, I probably have a bunch of Schedule 4 drugs in there.

    • GEAGLE

      Kind of odd that a wacko like him, with billions and access to team doctors only got caught with Tylenol 3 caliber drugs…..

  • Token

    And we keep on stockpiling trash at the backend of the roster. Getting rid of the Chungs, Allens, matthews is how you build the team. Not keeping worthless garbage like that around. Takes a roster spot from a rookie that could prove to be a better player.

    Nate Allen was out of the damn league. Think about that.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      and for that price tag, he may not make it out of camp. But we need safeties on the roster in camp, you know, when 90 guys are playing.

      • Token

        You think hes not sticking around? Come on, you know the Eagles better than that.

        • Tikkit

          I guess we have to be happy about Chung/Roc being gone for now. I’m ok with Allen being back, knows the system, didn’t have a terrible year last year.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          there’s nothing else to say. You can whine all you want, but there is nothing wrong with this move. I’ve called it all along.
          I don’t get you fools who think safeties are starting Day 1. Last year was way deeper, and only 2 guys looked good from the get-go: Vaccaro and Reid, clearly 1st rd. prospects. The bums coming out this year are 2nd/3rd rd guys being inflated to 1st and 2nd rd. picks.
          There is a far smaller chance that a rookie, either high pick or UDFA, is coming in and making the contributions a veteran like Allen can make from the start. He knows the scheme. He knows NFL play. Best case? That small % lottery ticket rookie works and we cut him. Worst? He’s a depth safety, better than Keelan Johnson and pry Maragos. To you? end of world, as always

          • Token

            Who wants a rook starting day one? I think this class stinks. They wont pick a high safety. They dont value the position.

            Wolff and Jenkins are the starters I would imagine. If Wolff cant beat out Nate Allen, then jesus……I dont even wanna go there.

            But yea end of the world…….

            Id rather trust evaluations and get some young players on the bottom of the roster with potential to build forward. Not keep roster spots tied up in proven bums. Thats not how you move forward. We already have all these bum ST aces taking up 10 roster spots.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            you do realize Colt, Kurt, caseymatthews, etc. are pry gone right? hyperbole much? Maragos and Braman are upgrades over the guys mentioned on defense as well as ST.

            For all the crap you give Geagle, you also expect playmakers at all positions. Go look at some other NFL rosters of great teams, see how many of their depth guys’ names you recognize.
            Unreal. If young guys do well, of course they’ll take the spot of players like Allen. Seriously, do you even think before typing?

            Let’s just look at DEF back 7 players, i.e. ST candidates:
            Knott (your classic young guy with potential, YGWP), Goode (YGWP), Philips (if he stays, ST ace, doubt he does), Travis Long (YGWP), Braman (ST ace, depth at OLB- better than anyone we had last year), Nolan Carroll (ST ace, starting caliber CB better than anything last year), Keelan Johnson (YGWP), Maragos (ST ace, better depth than last year, YGWP).

          • cliff henny

            back end of roster guy making back of roster money. everyone sucks, everyone is overpaid, and eagles FO are morons. it’s such a tiring theme.

          • Token

            Again, much easier to say everyone is awesome than to actually have a opinion.

          • cliff henny

            yup, you got me nailed…or is it just another one of your post twisting replies.

          • Token

            Braman and Maragos cant play NFL positions. Maybe a downgrade from guys we had actually. They are ST aces only. Hopefully better at that. Numbers dont confirm they are as great as the hype says they are. We were told about all the ST aces being great last year.

            I do wonder how often teams sign other teams ST aces and it works out well? Usually those guys come from lower picks or UDFAs. Seems you should be having that type of player on your roster already/

            How many UDFAs were on Seattles roster last year?

          • NickS1

            Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor…. Those are the two safeties Maragos was stuck behind. The fact that you consider that an indictment on Maragos is all we need to know you’re speaking hyperbole. At least give the guy a chance on the field to see what he actually has instead of using the aforementioned positional situation as the verdict on his career.

          • Token

            The guy has been in the league for 4 years on two different teams. The best case scenario is hes the new Colt Anderson. The best case. Thats the only reason hes here. Not to play safety.

          • NickS1

            He was on SF before SEA. Another loaded secondary a few years ago… He might be ST only, but him not getting game time at safety, again, is far from an indictment when looking at who was ahead of him.

          • Token

            lol ok man. You cant change minds that dont want to look at something for what it is. We will just disagree.

          • NickS1

            Clearly, since I can’t change yours.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            infallible logic, that one. Bring up counterpoint, it’s just laughed off.
            I prefer talking to geagle

          • Token

            Now thats a low blow.

          • Will

            LMAO….

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            yea, you’re right. too much caffeine today, having to listen to ravens fans talking about how the Real Steve Smith is bringing them another super bowl.

          • cliff henny

            just glad Eagles pick before Carolina, almost have to pick WRs 1st, 2nd and 3rd. pay Cam 20m and saddle him with Marvin McNutt. cant even afford Hakim Nicks

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            hahahha seeing Marvin McNutt as their #1 right now almost killed me. I’m not too worried about them.

          • Adam G

            They are not in good shape for the future either.

          • cliff henny

            yup, and lost some on defense. think panthers have great chance at bouncing back to middle of pack team.

          • Richard Colton

            They can fight it out with the ’49ers for 2014 Biggest Disappointment label.

          • cliff henny

            Carolina is poster child for why I don’t get or get into convo’s about strength of schedule.

          • Tikkit

            105.7 makes you glad for this site. At least people posting here have some kind of football IQ. Baltimore? Ugh.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            how can you say that first sentence so definitively? i doubt you know nothing about either. And even if that is still the case, they’re better than the guys they’re replacing

          • Will

            I believe Maragos beats out Nate Allen and Wolff for the other Safety spot with Jenkins…

          • Token

            I mean……. come on now

          • Will

            I called it willing to bet he beats out Nate Allen …

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            about as likely as me getting hit by an MTA bus

          • Adam G

            New Yorker?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            baltimore

          • D-Von Funk

            I think Maragos’ spot on our roster is more secure than Nate’s, at this point, especially if (when?) Wolff surpasses Nate. Heck, Maragos might be a dark horse to steal a starting gig. Given our safety play in recent years, I can’t rule anything out. He’ll get the chance to compete, at the very least.

            I’m just not convinced that Nate can be an effective special teamer. Hence, why I think Wolff and Maragos have a better chance at sticking than Nate (if he doesn’t win a strating gig outright).

      • A Roy

        Maximum flexibility. Now they don’t HAVE to draft a S, but they can if BPA.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          bingo. I don’t see how this is so complicated, would fans really prefer we save that $1mil and go into camp without a full complement of safeties on the roster?
          Emotion clouds pragmatism

          • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

            Grab Dontae Johnson in rds 4-6 and that is ok to go into camp with. Allen and Jenkins probably start at beginning of the year.

          • cliff henny

            bet wolff is pencil’d in starter.

      • cliff henny

        if it was different name, same level of player, be seen for what it is.

    • RC5000

      I’d rather they weren’t forced into reaching for safeties in the draft anyway. I was wondering yesterday why they hadn’t signed another safety. Allen also knows the system and he was okay back there last year and I went to the games so I saw it all at home.

    • Nfl All Day

      Matthews can’t possibly make this team with Bramman coming in and Phillips coming back. Plus we still have Najee (I’ll follow anyone on twitter) Goode.

  • Engwrite

    What am I missing? The comments below keep referring to this being a $1 Million deal while the write up above twice mentions $2 Million.

    • jabostick

      I think it was changed after the fact? Schefter said $1M at first, then clarified after. It’s $2M, with playtime incentives that could earn an extra mill.

    • cliff henny

      scheffie always reports max/with player hitting incentives. I’m assuming it’s non-guaranteed money and if he makes roster, will be 1m salary

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah it’s two mil with playing time Incentives that could make it 3mil

        • cliff henny

          2m emergency 5th safety, can live with that. hope I never hear his name

  • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

    I think the only way we pick safety #22 overall is if by some chance HaHa slide to that spot but that would be a BPA pick rather than a need pick anyway. Otherwise we NEED a pass rusher. If we can get a decent pass rush the safety spot becomes a whole lot less difficult for us. Ealy or Ford would go a long way in that dept.

    • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

      What pass rushers do you guys like in the draft?

      • GEAGLE

        Marcus smith…Lousville pro day is on right now..(someone let me know how Pryor and smith look today please)
        ..
        I’m sure we will have Trent Murphy on our draft board, Attachuo,

        • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

          At work. How does he look. Haven’t watched his tape much. I know you are a Smith apologist.

          • GEAGLE

            No idea..boss is here today, can’t turn TV on. Apologist? Because he is the pass rusher I want more then anyone(with a realistic chance of us drafting?)…not sure what excuses I have to make for him, when he just had a beast of a season

    • Token

      This team wont draft a safety #1. Get that out of your head. Stupid to set yourself up for disappointment for no reason. They cant be any clearer about what they think of the S position.

      • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

        They will if HaHa slides. Because he is the BPA. Not because he is a safety.

        • Token

          The draft would have to break in a really terrible way to have HaHa be the best player available. If that were to happen they would trade back.

          • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

            You hate him don’t you.

          • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

            Say it. Say “I hate HaSean Clinton-Dix.”

          • Richard Colton

            To be fair to Token, he hates a lot of players.

          • Token

            lol. I think it seems that way because I dont go out of my way to blow all the players I actually like. I promise I dont hate everyone.

            I dont hate Dix. Clinton-Dix. I just think hes a 2nd round talent.

          • Richard Colton

            Speaking of guys you do like – Kenny Vaccaro. There isn’t a safety that good in this draft. But one will be drafted like there is.

          • Token

            Hes a 2nd round player that will probably go in the first.

      • Nfl All Day

        I’m totally agree. It won’t be a safety at 22. They’ve told us over and over they don’t consider it a high priority. Actions speak…

  • Will

    So the priority on Defense should be OLB in the draft. Still look for them to grab one of the tall talented WR in this draft before looking at OLB.

  • GEAGLE

    I can’t even play first pick game anymore, because there isn’t anything I want with the 22nd pick…and if you start trading back, that game becomes nonsense…only way you can somewhat play that game realistically is to not do any trades….and I hate the 22nd pick in this draft. Unless Evans or Barr falls, everyone I would want is a reach

    • Baron Peter VonShnauzer

      If everyone is a reach then no one is reach. Think about that.

    • Will

      The Eagles can trade up or down in this draft …go up after the OLB you covet or a WR….they may trade back for more picks…it really depends on a trade partner and who is interested in jumping up to #22…we shall find out in 53 days maybe they stand pat and pick BPA for all 6 picks….

      • Tom W

        Don’t have enough picks to trade up. would be mortgaging too much of our future. Maybe if we need to get 19 to get past cards and pack to get barr.

    • Nfl All Day

      All the more reason to trade back. It’s not as exciting but if it lands us 2 more good players, ….sheeeeeeeeeeeeeet

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        senator davis always gets upvotes

        • Richard Colton

          Is that show the Rocky of Baltimore? I did the 36 hour Deadwood binge-watch this weekend, forgot how well written that show was as well.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            i mean, it’s great and unnervingly realistic, but kind of annoyed it’s the only PR we have. When I was overseas, I met folks from all over who were like “You’re from Bmore? I’ve seen the Wire! how many times have you been shot?!?” Watched it dubbed in arabic, now THAT was weird.
            House of Cards is the new one. Filmed here; the rib joint that Spacey always eats at is a few blocks from my house.

          • Richard Colton

            Haha. Yeah – AFN always had crazy stuff dubbed in Arabic or with Arabic subtitles. Always Sunny w/ English subtitles and Charlie’s voice dubbed in Arabic. Hilarious.

          • G_WallyHunter

            According to Rob Ford and his doofus brother, Spacey is a giant douche, I don’t give any credit to the crack smoking mayor and his doofus brother, have you heard of any encounters with him lately?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            my GF ran into him a bunch, she lives in the neighborhood they film in (the nice houses), says he’s nice enough

          • G_WallyHunter

            I thought he looked like an approachable celebrity anyways as far as celebrities go, he was probably just being a douche to the two doofus brothers. apparently he wouldn’t give them the time of day backstage on the Kimmel show last week, then chirped Rob in his segment.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I don’t care much for the Fords, so if they think he’s a douche he’s pry pretty cool

          • GEAGLE

            Loved me some deadwood….just started watching Black Sail this weekend, it’s not bad…..Starz Magic City I like alot

          • Nfl All Day

            Swearingen is one of my favorite characters EVER!

          • Tom W

            cocksucker.

          • Richard Colton

            first time I upvoted that word here. guess its all about context.

        • Tom W

          Best show ever. hands down. Season 3 puts everything to shame.

          And Davis was cop in 25th hour … same line too when he finds the heron in the pillow

      • GEAGLE

        Not exciting? I would do back flips if someone let’s us trade back. Just can’t trade back in first pick game because it becomes too unrealistic

    • TOm W

      Nah … trade down twice is realistic. trade 22 down to late first and a third OR early second third and fourth.

      Then trade down again to mid second round.

      Is exactly what eagles must do.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah cuz the eagles are the only ones who realize how deep this draft is, and everyone else will be dying to give away picks…just like this years NBA draft, I’m expecting GMs to be really stingy with their picks. Of course there are teams like the Niners with too many picks who have to trade some because they don’t have enough roster spots to use them all, problem is they have plenty of ammunition to get higher then 22, in a draft where everyone will want to aquire more picks

        • Tom W

          They said the same last year when no one wanted to trade up w everyone who traded down bc there was a lack of talent … you can make that lamish argument every year and trades always happen….

          Teams will need a qb (atleast four teams after top 3 are gone), corner (premium position) otackle edge rusher like ford or weapon (benjamin/cooks) or best safety on board ….

          browns vikes titans maybe bucs (one of top 4 teams who doesn’t go qb) all need qbs and probably won’t land top 4 guy…

          so we drop to top of second and get an extra third and more … dont see how we stay at 22 unless barr or ebron falls to us.

  • Token

    Seattle resigns their kicker.

    So what UDFA kicker can be brought in to take this job from the bum? I havent looked at the kicker class yet.

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      I’m sure they will bring some college kid or UFA in for competition, but it doesn’t look like they would sign anyone to straight up replace him.

      • Token

        Hope someone comes through. I think Chip hates his guts.

        • JofreyRice

          he’s good.

          • Richard Colton

            only if you like facts

    • Richard Colton

      depends…how do you feel about pickled herring and fjords?

    • Will

      Alex Henry should be replaced by this guy who tried out for the Lion’s last year…The Eagles have also shown interest in the West Texas A&M kicker….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDwbjHV8jLo

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        any chance we can have 1 thread you don’t post that video on?

        • Will

          I love the song and hate Alex Henry be kind to me today for heavens sake the Eagles just resigned Nate allen…lol…

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            sorry, but I’d take Allen over every available FA safety still looking for work.
            Don’t think kickalicious is coming here, hate to break it to you

          • Will

            Your right but look for the kid from West Texas A& M to be in camp to push Alex Henry…maybe off the team….

          • Richard Colton

            don’t give up that easy Will. This is the way kickers make the league. they bounce around for a bit first.

          • Will

            I haven’t this is a no brainer for me sign kickalicious…

          • Richard Colton

            don’t say it Rob. What if one day we NEED a 30 yard drop kick?

          • Andy124

            Pretty sure the rules committee is adding a 5 point field goal if you can kick it in to a movie truck.

          • Richard Colton

            I want some competition for Henery and something interesting to talk about – this guy gets us both. Besides, it’s kicking. None of us know anything about the rookie/FA crop of kickers so its all conjecture. 65% of kicking is mental, 45% is physical, 10% is spiritual

          • Andy124

            What about the other 80%?

            Yeah, I consider it a given there’ll be competition in camp for Alex. If it’s this guy, fine by me. Hell, bring in a few guys.

          • JofreyRice

            you may say that, but have you seen this?

      • jcwhy

        kick, kick, kick-a-delphia!

    • Nfl All Day

      Kickaliscious

  • Will
  • GEAGLE

    Interesting…Chip Kelly was at Louisville pro day, but Tom Gamble was at Wake Forrest..so was Chip watching Pryor, while gamble checked out WF pass rusher? Wonder if Azz was with Chip? I would have liked Tom gamble evaluating Marcus

    • Tom W

      Is Gamble a passrushing guru or prior linkage to passrushing scouting speciality??

      • G_WallyHunter

        We kind of get that sense eh, he had those public comments on Dion that were given so much weight..

        • GEAGLE

          Aldon smith too,,,someone at the Niners knew how to draft defensive players. Then again, I wouldn’t mind his opinion on Pryor either since they seemed to do ok with safeties…obviously I want Chip Kelly watching offensive players..so would have prefered him checking out the WF wideout, with gamble checking out Louisile two safeties and Marcus. But whatever

    • Tom W

      What did marcus do?

      • GEAGLE

        No clue…would love to know

        • Tom W

          word is he looked very good in on field drills. didnt run

    • cliff henny

      over-reading brother, divide and conquer. long as Kelly and crew are in full force at FSU and LSU, i’m good

      • Tom W

        I second that. the day of days.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      they already have tape and scout info. seeing them in person offers chance to talk with them. more important to chip/gamble than an extra pro day at this point

  • Nfl All Day

    There’s something to be said for Allen finally having some coaching continuity back there. With our luck we do get a safety high, and Allen will play his ass off. Take the job. Screw up all the kids playing time and developement, then bolt in the offseason.

    • Will

      LMAO…more likely a camp body…LMAO…

      • Nfl All Day

        He’s the Eagles version of John Mayberry.

    • cliff henny

      i’ll bet against all that happening…and bet HEAVY, like got cleaned out NFL Sunday trying to win it all back on MNF heavy

  • MattE

    Is this a sIgn that we trade out of the 1st round? grab another pick and pick up Bucannon somewhere in the 2nd round?

  • miketd1

    I like this move. If for nothing else, this at least shows that the organization recognizes and rewards hard work and personal improvement. Allen has quietly worked himself into a serviceable player after being absolute garbage for the better part of his professional career.

  • Mr. Wu

    Nate Allen is like herpes …..just can’t get rid of him

    • miketd1

      now, now…. Reno Mahe, he ain’t.

    • Richard Colton

      At least when herpes shows up, it’s aggressive

      • Eagles1018

        Wow. Best line I’ve seen on this board today

      • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

        Cheers to that one, Dick!

    • Nfl All Day

      Nate Mayberry

  • jon h

    I’m not a nate fan, but he did pretty well before getting hurt in the giants game a few years ago. he improved this year under a real coach, so if billy thinks he still works, who are we to argue?

  • John E. Zang

    This guys not bad. He played on horrible defenses with idiots for coaches, Andy included. That defensive staff with Juan Castillo was mind boggling and embarrassing. He did well with McDermott as a rookie and made improvements with Davis. He has stability to develop his game now. Everyone wants to just blame the player and find a scape goat. Your scape goat is the coach and his incompetent staff.

    • GEAGLE

      If it was as simple as stability we would have given him more then one year deal

      • Dubya

        Maybe Nate wants to try a one year deal, play a little better and then cash in. Why accept a multi year deal for marginally better money and look like doo doo then get cut. Take a one year deal, try to get better in a familiar system.

        • GEAGLE

          That’s it…he turned down multiyear security to sit on our bench for two mil…Nate plays with soooo much confidence that he would bet on himself and turn down security. HA!

          • Ark87

            Logic aside:

            “I was open for anything,” he (Nate) said of the one-year deal. “That’s what the Eagles were offering.”

    • reb

      Yes, some of it can be attributed to scheme and being on atrocious defenses, but taking bad angles, hesitating, and missing tackles isn’t scheme. He made strides last year but floundered at the end again. We can hope that the offseason with this staff and the one year deal will spur him to up his game.

      • OldDocRoss

        Hesitating can absolutely be scheme. If you’re playing in a new system or being asked to do things you’re unfamiliar with then you’re going to be thinking way too much. And generally being in a scheme that doesn’t suit you hurts confidence which can lead to other problems like missed tackles.

        I don’t think anyone’s looking to be founder member of the Nate Allen Fan Club but a combination of injury, scheme and the general Faces of Death level awfulness that was the 2012 season have definitely hurt his development.

      • Harpy Eagle

        What other event happened at the end of last year when he floundered again? Yup Wolf got hurt and he was paired with Chung during that time. It could be just that Chung is sooo bad he made everyone around him look worse.

  • Tom W

    Lots of prodays this week (and today)

    Teddy Qb — mayock down, brandt said he was fine

    Marcus Smith — didn’t run 40, looked very good in on field drills one scout said he is the most talented player on louisville roster last year.

    Pryor – didn’t run 40 (surprising as he didn’t run well at combine). Chip was front and center during his on-field drills. Birds and Jets met w him privately. Don’t see how either safety gets anywhere near 22 w by my count at least 7 teams between 11-21 needing a safety.

    Florida’s pro day got rained out.

    Wanna hear how Gaines looked at Rice and demarcus looked at Boise st. and Urban looked at UVA.

  • Mike Tyner

    I still feel like we take a safety in the first 2 rounds somehow. This was definitely a depth move.

    • Richard Colton

      any Safety drafted in the top 5 rounds would be a lock to make the team. So you roll into camp with 6, maybe 7 guys. Jenkins/Wolff/Maragos are locks. Would the Eagles carry 5? Maybe. But more likely it would come down to Allen or a 5th CB for that roster spot.

      Point is – we don’t HAVE to do anything at Safety now. We just need to upgrade in May.

      • OldDocRoss

        Yeah, the way I see it our safeties should certainly be better than last year.

        2014 Wolff > 2013 Wolff
        2014 Allen > 2013 Allen
        Jenkins >>>>>> Chung (because Chung)

        And Maragos is going to have to go some to be a downgrade from Coleman and Colt.

        There’s a small number of positions where we could do with an impact starter and a larger number where we could use depth but we’re definitely in position to go BPA all the way now.

        • Richard Colton

          Obviously you’re spot on with Jenkins vs. Chung. We all hope that Wolff takes that next step, but its not a guarantee based on what we saw last year.

          Devils advocate. Was 2012 Allen > 2011 Allen?

          • OldDocRoss

            Eh, I was just going with the most likely scenario. The balance of probability is in favour of them improving is all. Very unlikely both would regress I would’ve thought but not impossible.

            Was 2012 Allen > 2011 Allen?

            Is syphilis > herpes?

            In my head I’ve given anybody who’s still on the roster a mulligan for 2012 and blamed it all on (in no particular order) Nnamdi, Babin, Washburn, Nnamdi, DRC, Nnamdi, Danny effin Watkins, Nnamdi and Nnamdi.

            I also think Nnamdi deserves some of the blame.

          • Bert’s Bells

            Yes, syphilis -cured by antibiotics -is much better than herpes. Ask Mike Vick.

          • Andy124

            Never heard of him. He related to Ron Mexico?

          • Nfl All Day

            RON MEXICO! Among the 10 funniest things I’ve ever heard to this day. That story is the best!

          • Nfl All Day

            I go Washburn/Babin Team Dysfunctional 9 times more at fault them Nnamdi.

          • cliff henny

            why waste time, I hate them all abundantly and equally

          • Nfl All Day

            Past is past, but those two were truly on some other sh%t! Running a little 2 man cult. That whole era was like or entire fan base, all being locked in a basement held captive by a gang of maniacs. Getting bad touched every Sunday. Still flinch evrytime i hear the words wide nine, mudd, and dream team, watkins. Only year I ever willfully stopped watching.

          • OldDocRoss

            My list was not intended to be taken seriously.

            Can’t stand Nnamdi, but if Washburn and Babin were at the dining table I might take my lunch out to the car too.

          • Nfl All Day

            Good point.

          • JeryfromYorkPa

            Hilarious!!!!!

          • Vet Linc

            Reid deserves more blame than Nmadi.

        • JofreyRice

          I mean, it’s an incremental upgrade, but you have to give them credit where due. It’s like we upgraded to death by lethal injection instead of firing squad.

          • OldDocRoss

            Jenkins is a huge upgrade over Chung. The only thing Chung had going for him (allegedly) was that he was a decent tackler but 100% of his memorable tackles last year were on men wearing Eagles uniforms which is less than optimal.

            I think we’re in position to be decidedly average at safety as it stands. Not ideal, but after all we’ve seen in the last few years I’ll take it.

      • Mike Tyner

        Totally agree, now we dont have to reach in the draft either

  • Tom W

    Aside from not liking this years safety class whatsover, I am extremely confident that our FO nor Chip will pick a safety early if they don’t believe that safety is deserving of the pick and don’t have someone else of interest rated higher. There will be no drafting for need. Maybe a marriage of the two (BUA) best upgrade available, but I don’t see how a safety will be our best BPA or BUA at any pick until maybe the 5th or 6th round in this draft. If buchanon or ward fell to the third probably but I dont see that happening. I think Dontae Johnson from NC st. in the 4th more likely 5th is our guy.

    • cliff henny

      like to not get in the habit of finding safeties at NC St. joking…like this kid, think looking correct rd, too.

    • RC5000

      You’re “not liking this years safety class whatsoever” yet you don’t see Bucannon or Ward falling to the third in what Mayock says is the best draft in years.

      • RIP illa

        Yes Mayock said best draft in years…he did not say best safety draft in years. In fact, when asked about why and where is this draft so deep, he always referred to WR and CB.

      • JofreyRice

        if you believe the pundits (and play of rookies on the field last year) the ’13 draft class was the time to grab a safety. We took one in the fifth that might be a starter. I think we’d have to spend a higher pick to get a similar talent this year. Draft is deeper at other spots, like WR, TE & LB.

        • Tom W

          Thanks and correct ridiculously deep at wr, te, lb, otackle, guard, corner … heck even rb to a certain extent and okay at qb. weak at safety, dtackle … strengths from last year.

      • TOm W

        Teams need safeties in today’s nfl … at least a dozen teams need a safety … thus the top 4 safeties will be pushed up the draft board to fill needs by teams that draft for need. eagles don’t do that. deepest draft in 30 yrs doesn’t contradict that its a very weak safety class and that the third and arguably fourth best safeties won’t fall to our pick at 86.

  • Mike Tyner

    Figured I’d come back and eat my crow since i said there was no way the giants would sign DRC. Its a 5 yr deal for 35 million

    • Justin

      All Foles has to do is throw that way now when we play them.

      • Mike Tyner

        yes lord!! Ill give him his ability to cover but he aint tackling a thing

      • G_WallyHunter

        ya as long its a screen to his side and not down the sideline to him in coverage..

    • Eagles1018

      That’s not good news at all

      • oreofestar

        yes it is, as soon as the Giants start losing DRC will become uniterested

        • Eagles1018

          Their back half with Thurmond and DRC, plus Antrelle Rolle is pretty good. Add to that they brought back Beason. When the Giants win championships their defense is put together. The offense is still weak but I’m sure they’ll use the draft to get it together. This sucks. I don’t know if anyone is a native New Yorker like me but I’m tired of hearing the “you don’t have a ring” talk. I want Eli to get hit by a low flying aircraft

          • oreofestar

            Yo I live in NJ I know how you feel, honestly the Giants do not worry me much at all, they still have a glaring hoe at OL and DL now because they let Tuck(who they keep on saying is declining but regardless racked up 11 sacks for them) and Joseph gone and they let Nicks go too. Thurmond was a rotational player i Seattle and I am not going to be like everyone else and assume that a rotational guy in Seattle is a starter somewhere else when being in a good system surrounded by probowlers helps A LOT! DRC is going to get picked on and quit on them now for sure that he has some security in a 5 year 39mil deal. Rolle we have dealt with before so nothing new

          • GEAGLE

            You can’t put together a defense overnight and you can’t do it without drafting well. They will be gelling together, and we will be build off last year..I’ll take our puppies and our one year head start over this giants “welfare dream team” anyday

        • Maggie

          It’s hard to say. DRC became uninterested in Philly along with most of the team. With other teammates and different coaches, who knows? Thurmond might decide to give him a little lesson in how to become ‘interested”.

  • TripSquadMonopoly

    Giants and DRC 5 year 39mil. Wow who the hell wants this kid for 5 years? Its gonna be great to play him so often. Run the ball to his side every time.

  • Maggie

    Been watching some Steelers week. Sigh. The 70′ had the best football, the best music, the best movies, real people doing real things. I know i sound like an old fogey who hates change but I actually started taking computer classes in 1986. What I really hate is everything plastic and digital and instant gratification sound bytes. For example, if you could find real musicians making real music they would still sound like garbage on an Ipod. Just one more thing. Chip Kelly apparently has studied the NFL for a long time. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that he admires Chuck Noll. Built his team over 5 years, used 3 tight end sets, tackled so ferociously the NFL changed the rules, won 4 Super Bowls in 6 years. Should have won 5. Sigh.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Check out the ponoplayer neil young is developing, can’t wait for it to gain ground

  • Joe Thomas

    I think Nate is gonna have a good year. It will be the first time being really comfortable in a system, and it will show in his play. I think by mid season, everyone will be talking about our saftey depth, and how well the secondary is playing.

    • oreofestar

      I sure as hell hope so

  • oreofestar

    Damn the Raiders are signing every mid-tier free agent

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Chip was in attendance at Louisville pro-day today. Most likely checking out Pryor & M Smith. I’d consider it extremely lucky to end up with both after the first two rounds. But one can be hopeful. I’m really excited about the possibility of M Smith. To me he is the best pass rush ROLB prospect outside of Barr. Barr has a higher ceiling potential due to his measurables & freak athleticism, but there is definitely more bang/bust involved & development necessary in Barr. Smith looks like a safe bet to be a solid NFL player from day 1 with the potential to a consistent playmaker in the backfield.

  • Nfl All Day

    DRC to the Giants for 5yrs $15M/G. After signing Thurmond, making a concerted effort to bolster the secondary, you think somebody got in their head a little bit? Chipper is all up in Coughlin’s kitchen, BANGIN POTS & PANS! Can’t wait to see Tom dragging DRC off the field by his face mask cuz he faked trying to tackle Shady. Or better yet see DRC getting trucked by Kelce on a screen.