Eagles Wake-Up Call: Three Free Agency Notes

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On the third day of free agency, we offer three thoughts on where things stand with the Eagles.

1. Greg Cosell of NFL Films joined Jon Marks and Sean Brace on 97.5 The Fanatic Wednesday afternoon and pointed out the four areas he focuses on when evaluating safeties: tackling (both in space and in the box), their ability to play single-high, their ability to play two-deep and their ability to hold up in man coverage.


So how does Malcolm Jenkins grade out in those four areas?

"Jenkins can do all four of those things," Cosell said. "He does them in a solid fashion. He doesn’t do them at a high level. So he’s versatile, he can do a lot for you. He can allow you to be scheme-versatile. But he’s not a great player.

"The bottom line is he's an upgrade over what they had… and he can do all the things you look for in a safety. He's just not great at any of them."

I think that's a perfectly fair assessment and not far off from what I shared a few weeks ago. Jenkins is competent in several areas, not great in any.

The guess here is that the Eagles really value his ability to be the quarterback of the back end. That's what the coaches love about DeMeco Ryans in the front seven. He gets everyone lined up, makes checks based on the look of the offense and serves as an extension of Billy Davis on the field. Chip Kelly and company likely expect Jenkins to do the same with the secondary.

2. The fan base seems to be split on the Eagles' lack of activity so far. One side is glad they're maintaining financial flexibility and not overpaying. The other side is furious that they had a chance to upgrade their talent in a number of areas on defense and failed to do so.

As is often the case, the most reasonable take is somewhere in the middle. But I think a certain degree of skepticism is justifiable. The Eagles entered the offseason needing to upgrade several spots on defense. So far, their moves have included a couple backups and a mid-level safety.

And they're in firm "prove it" territory at that position. This is the sixth straight offseason in which the organization is searching for competency at safety. Maybe Jenkins will turn out to be a steal, but it's perfectly understandable for members of the fan base to be skeptical.

We've only had two days of free agency, and while many of the big names are off the board, there are still moves to be made. On May 11, once the draft is complete, we'll get a better idea of what the big picture looks like going into 2014.

3. So, who's left? Here are three names to keep an eye on:

Corey Wootton - The 6-6, 270-pounder played defensive tackle in the Bears' 4-3, but he could be a depth option as a defensive end for the Eagles. Wootton, 27, had hip surgery in January and could be looking at a short-term deal.

Willie Young - He's played defensive end in the Lions' 4-3, but Young could be an option as an edge rusher for the Eagles. At 6-5, 251 with 34 1/2-inch arms, Young has the length Kelly covets on defense. Young reportedly had a visit with the Jaguars.

Alex Carrington - Another option for defensive line depth. Carrington (27) played only three games last year because of a quad injury. He can play 3-4 DE and move inside in four-man fronts. Carrington has reportedly drawn interest from the Rams and Browns so far.

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The Eagles signed athletic safety/special teamer Chris Maragos from the Seahawks.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Matt Williamson of ESPN.com offers his thoughts on Jenkins:

Those who like Jenkins describe him as a highly versatile player who can help a defense in many ways. Jenkins has size and straight-line speed. He can play the deep middle or deep half. He is a good blitzer and can walk down and cover a slot receiver. He can play some man to man against wide receivers. But I contend that he isn't well above average in any of these particular areas and is a player whom quarterbacks should target. He can make quarterbacks pay by converting big plays but also can take too many risks. His hips are not fluid enough to keep up with the typical slot receiver and Jenkins is at his best in a straight line.

Is he a bad player? No, but I don't see him as this highly versatile do-it-all star, but rather close to a jack of all trades but master of none.

Eric Galko of Optimum Scouting has the Eagles taking Louisville safety Calvin Pryor in the first round:

Even after adding Malcolm Jenkins in free agency, don’t overlook the Eagles looking to add another top safety onto the roster. Chip Kelly already toyed with three-safety looks last year and Pryor can provide help at both free and strong safety in this Eagles defense.

COMING UP

More free agency coverage, plus we'll meet Braman and Maragos.

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  • trixman

    Thank you, Sheil. So many writers are trying to sell us on the “upgrade.” We don’t need the safety situation upgraded, we need it fixed. The Eagles had a prime opportunity to fix it, and they blew it. Thank you for voicing our concerns perfectly.

    • Jeff Asay

      As a player, you’d choose the better team. Would you outbid NOLA for Byrd? Because overpaying is the only way the inferior team gets him. No way a player like Ward targeted by Denver isn’t going to the best team in the AFC even if you did try to overpay. Let’s be realistic and assume the Eagles know what they are better than most.

      • Tom w

        Who says ward woulda not came. We didn’t even look at him according to reports. And ward is trying to get paid w this contract not win a ring. He can try to do that on next contract like most. And what about bethea and Whitner and ignoring every good corner and olb prospect

        • GEAGLE

          What’s really crazy is the Browns paid like a million more for Whitner then what it would have cost to keep Ward…

          I’m thrilled that Jenkins is an eagle. I just wish he wasn’t our main defensive acquisition..

          I’m also starting to be glad we missed out on Ware…he was really really struggling as a pass rusher last year. Basically the Broncos paid him for his reputation, instead of what they saw on tape and they are hoping he can get back to his normal self making last years down season an anomaly…I think the Broncos made a big mistake!! Jared Allen’s agent suggested to the broncos they sign him to the ware contract. Broncos declined and decided to give that contract to ware!! But IMO, Jared is a significantly better 4-3DE, and there is little doubt in my mind that Jared would have produced more sacks for them(of course only simpletons just judge a defender on sacks), but it wasn’t like Ware was destroying OTs and getting pressure on QBs and just not getting the sack. Ware struggled even against average OTs last year, he wasn’t

          • GEAGLE

            Now on paper a simpleton would argue that ware had double the amount of sacks as MJ did…but sacks hardly tell the entire story..MJ pressured QBs 61 times and batted down a nice amount of balls while also grading out a top run defender..

            Curious to see if Ware will prove to be a mistake for the broncos, or if Fox can rejuvenate Ware…but it’s hard to really love the move when Allen was available and comes with less risk

          • jesse

            Curious how they had so much cap space but to be honest all the rules of the soft cap ect .. ecsape me

          • cliff henny

            Denv actually has a pretty good cap situation. While Eagles sit with 5m available in’15 (plenty of guys to clear space), broncos had over 60m. bet those contracts are heavily loaded into ’15, and tightly squeezed into ’14s cap. once Manning is gone in guessing 2 yrs, that roster will be stripped to draft picks

          • Joe L

            I keep reading 40 QB hurries for Johnson last year. Where does the 61 come from?

          • Token

            “I’m thrilled that Jenkins is an eagle.” lol your killing me.

          • Richard Colton

            When life gives you lemons, make a lemon smoothie

          • anon

            Ware’s got a perfect situation — people playing Denver are always passing, Denver’s secondary is WAY better, add Von Miller to that pass rush Ware will get sacks.

      • Richard Colton

        We being rational about it? OK. Lets hope an NFL player and his agent have a better understanding than you. Who, right now, has a bigger window for future success? Denver – superbowl losers with a 58 year old QB? or the Eagles w/ Chip, Nick and Shady?

        We have just as good a shot as Denver over the next three years, and Philly is a better football town. So no, we shouldn’t have to overbid. This isn’t Cleveland.

        • anon

          I’d say Denver has a brighter two years — that team went from stacked to double stacked. You could come to Eagles but it’s clear they (a) don’t pay and (b) aren’t serious about defense so why even consider?

        • G_WallyHunter

          Bada Bing bada boom, much more future potential, it isn’t even close really. Mannings gone and they’re spine is gone

          • anon

            You assuming brock osweiler isn’t learning a TON

          • Joe L

            I bet Curtis Painter and Jim Sorgi learned a ton from Manning too…..

          • Richard Colton

            hahaha. Yeah. I forgot about Brock Osweiler. I take it all back.

          • G_WallyHunter

            I’m assuming he won’t be able to make that offense click like one of the best ever does, sure he’s learning a ton and I’m not counting him out because we’ve hardly seen him, we’ll see, lets say their potential hinges on him, unless they grab someone else

          • anon

            He doesn’t even need to be RW good as strong as that team is. If we played Broncos tomorrow you think it’s any different than when we played them last year — or worse?

          • G_WallyHunter

            Oline what upgrades have they done?
            We’ll see when FA is over, but ya certainly with addition of Talib and Ward then tough shot. Just sayin Manning brings a hell of a lot more to that team than people give him credit for, superbowl is a prime example of that. Shut him down and team gets blown out… Like I said, haven’t seen Osweiler we can’t count him out hey maybe he’s the next nick foles

        • BirdGang

          nfl = not for long. I would say the Broncos def have a better chance of winning it all over the next 3 years than we do.
          Manning…Miller…Ware…Thomas X2. That team is going to be stacked.

          • anon

            Yeah it’s unclear to me that Manning doesn’t play until he’s 40. He RARELY takes hits.

          • Richard Colton

            I’m willing to bet the house on a post superbowl loss letdown from the Broncos. It’s the most predictable thing in football, next to Dion Lewis falling down. So two years from now, when Manning is eligible for Social Security…is that when they’re supposed to win?

          • BirdGang

            Na that only happens win a team wins the superbowl. Look at the 49ers. Would you say they had a let down after they lost the SB?
            I think they will def win one within the next two years. Or i should say they put themselves in the position to win.

          • Richard Colton

            yes. they didn’t get back to the title game. step back.

          • pjcostello

            I believe Manning, Thomas and Thomas are all signed only through 2014.

        • Jeff Asay

          You smoking some of those mushrooms the new LB likes? Lol. You’re banking an awful lot on potential performance. I’m optimistic about Chip and the Eagles future as a fan, but objectively speaking, Denver has great fans, Super Bowl Championships, John Elway calling the shots, Peyton Manning at QB, the 2013 #1 Offense, and no clear challenger to a return to the SB. Eagles remain a work in progress, have zero playmakers on defense, enjoyed a last place schedule, and as of right now a QB and a Head Coach who are One Year Wonders.

          No rational player would pass on playing for the favorite to win their conference right now versus the opportunity to help a team climb to the next level and compete for the conference against the two best teams in football: Seattle and San Francisco.

          Side note: Cleveland’s football fans are pretty awesome (Dawg Pound) and have as many Super Bowl Trophies in their trophy case as Philly. Take off the Rose colored glasses my man. BOOM!!

      • jesse

        I feel if we made either one of those additions we are a better team then N.O. And maybe are still and Denver is this year or bust for young player like Ward just got on a team that has one chance them buried in over paid contacts for players on the spiral down

    • jesse

      It’s nothing against Jenkins is a decent player who is know an Eagle so I will support him unless he doesn’t perform. But they really had a chance to pick up a special talent at a much need position that would untied theirhands in the draft and you just let it walk?

    • guest

      You really want to give $9 million a year ($28 million guaranteed) to a guy that has two bad feet, and ran a 4.6 before those feet went bad? Byrd is very good, but he’s not Earl Thomas good.

      Did the Packers blow it? They desperately need a safety and you never heard their name mentioned once for Byrd or any of the FA safeties.

      Did the Patriots blow it? They desperately need WR help, but the only WR they’ve been linked to is Brandon LaFell

      Did the 49ers blow it? They lost Whitner and replaced him with an older, less versatile version of Jenkins, but paid him more.

      Did the Ravens blow it? They haven’t gone after anyone other than their own left tackle (who they overpaid).

      My point is that these are great teams, well run organizations, and what do they have in common? They know that answers come via the draft, not free agency. The time to strike big in free agency is when you have a record setting offense with a 38 year old Hall of Fame QB and you’re just a couple players away from being totally dominant. Thats why it may work for Denver this year. But the Eagles aren’t at that point yet. But to say the Eagles “blew it” two days into free agency tells us that you’re just complaining to complain, or due to a lack of understanding.

    • FMWarner

      Fix it at what cost? Everything you pour into safety to “fix it” takes away your ability to upgrade or fix another area. Just because we had Brian Dawkins a million years ago doesn’t mean that exceptional safety play is something this or any other team needs to succeed. Even the best teams have certain positions where they just get by and certain positions where they excel.

      Did I want to come back this year with the same crew of clowns we had last year? Of course not. But we’re not going to. I am honestly baffled at a portion of this fan base’s obsession with the safety position.

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    Wahhhhh!!!!

  • cliff henny

    woke up to Decker’s crazy contract after Tate’s last night, makes Cooper and Maclin’s deals look like steals. Rough 2 days, but it’s only half the story. wish they could use cap space like in NBA and buy picks. not sure what’s left out there to spend much more than vet minimum or shade above.

    • jesse

      I agree was a pretty thin crop of FA once you got the top two per position, all the more reason I’m smh at not ponying up for either byrd or MJ. especially byrd this franchise is starving at the saftey position has been priority since #20 was allows to walk, we have struck out year after year in the draft on this position often reaching out of need.a position that our GM really admits is his dark Horse a position that’s importance has grown these last year’s and one that is thin in talent through out the league and you have a chance to take one of the top 2 of 3 just being into their prime and lock that position up for the next few years and you start pinching pennies when you have money to spend I just don’t get it

    • G_WallyHunter

      Good point, Cooper and Maclin came at a pretty nice discount. Can’t believe decker and Tate got those, I think tates is a little better tho, Deckers gotta prove that worth out from Peytons influence… Who’s still chirping the cooper contract with 8 guaranteed? No one? Didn’t think so

      • Joe L

        I thought Decker’s deal was pretty good for the Jets.

        • G_WallyHunter

          They did get him for good value, but it remains to be seen how he is with someone like Geno throwing to him. He was very average before Peyton arrived. Will be interesting to see. Happy cooper stuck around like he did hopefully he has a similar year in his second season in system and looks even more like a bargain..

          • Joe L

            He caught 8 TD’s with Tebow throwing the ball. Anything is possible.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Good point haha he probably had a much better year when Demaryius showed up.. we’ll see will be interesting. It is equally as interesting as it would be if Cooper went to another team, same system-influenced success, same situation

  • cliff henny

    pic of MJ made me do a double take, thought he has grabbing at his knee writhing in pain. thought ‘yup, he’s an Eagle’

    • Richard Colton

      I thought the same exact thing. No coffee yet.

  • BrettConnolly

    The one positive out of the public reaction to Jenkins is it may fire him up to disprove the hype.

    Chip Kelly constantly reinforces that you “never arrive,” and that you “put your resume on the field every day.” Brandon Boykin has expressed countless times that he keeps a piece of paper with every corner taken before him in the draft, and you see this in players all the time. They get motivated and driven to disprove the skeptics. Jenkins is dead on the money in his assessment that it takes more than individual talent to build a championship, and I’d really like to see him rise to the occasion. I think he could be a steal for us here.

    • EaglefaninAZ

      I hear ya. With good coaching, and putting him in the right situations, he could end up doing very well. Certainly not going to write him off right out of the gate. Really looking forward to the draft now.

      • anon

        Guy running your secondary can’t tackle? what? Why would i listen to what you say if you’re always out of position?

    • TheNest

      I hope your right

    • GEAGLE

      I don’t think it matters at all with this kid…this dude is a worker, he is a leader, self proclaimed football junkie, who wants the coaches to put a lot of responsibility on his shoulders…players like that aren’t going to need extra motivation….Jenkins will prove to be a quality eagle and a nice solid piece of our defense, he just isn’t the game changer that Byrd is…but hands down he is a drastically better player then anyone we have had since Mikell

      • brent

        i don’t care how hard he works, the statistics show that he’s been one of the worst safeties in the nfl in recent years. i cannot get behind this signing at all

      • anon

        Surprised to see you so bullish, or maybe it’s just safety play has been sooo poor. I can’t believe they didn’t even grab a guy like Stevie Brown.

        • Token

          Told you this would happen. Geagle wanted no part of Jenkins. But now that hes signed, hes a STUD!!!!!

      • Token

        lol o just stop already. You are damn near ready to declare Jenkins the next Geagle STUD! Flip flop.

      • BrettConnolly

        Yes. I find it to be a very loud message that the culture of the program is important in so much as it leads to systemic winning. The perception I have, based in part on the signing of our own players, is that the players really respond to the open communication policy. In an age and a profession where being two-faced or manipulative can be justified as routine, the forthright, upfront honesty is something that these star, young athletes are really impressed by. I think it will pay in dividends. Dividends, by the way, are paid in the form of 2-0′ing division rivals. I think everyone gets that message, and when everyone understands the expectations, it becomes habit. “Habits reflect the mission.”

        We’re from Philadelphia.
        We fight.

    • Kevin

      I agree Brent. If you combine Desire + Work Ethic + Good coaching + Team chemistry, you’ll get above average results. That seems to be the theme of who we are signing and drafting and agree with the approach.
      The other thing that has been driving me crazy is “the convenience of statistics”. Some of the same people who quote stats for how bad Jenkins performs will be the same people who say the stats Foles put up are ‘luck’ or a product of the system. So which is it – Jenkins sucks and Foles is better than Brady? Stats need to be looked at in the context of how they were earned. You can’t take ‘resultant stats’ and broadly apply them with understanding context.

      • BrettConnolly

        Very true. In the end, it’s about unity. For Philadelphia, it comes from the core. I am extremely grateful for a coach like Kelly who is somehow simultaneously innovative and meat and potatoes. To be honest, it’s about what goes on from Tuesday to Saturday. I think back to some of Kelly’s initial comments regarding players buying into his system where he said, “I think players want to win. If you show them techniques that they can use to get better results on the field, they’re going to embrace it.” That says a lot…. It’s such a simple, eloquent and honest answer. The other thing is, “high character” can mean a variety of things. In Reid’s tenure, we did seem to gravitate to high character people in addition to football players. But I often felt that in those instances, “high character” referred to… it’s hard to put into words, but something along the lines of “you’d let your daughter marry them.” But in Kelly’s vision, I think they’re actively seeking people who eat, sleep and breath football. People who are selfless, who put the team first, who do the little things…. “Dumb people do dumb things, and smart people rarely do dumb things.” I feel like he wants a team full of Vince Papales. It’s a grind. The season is absolutely a grind, and he wants a team who will not let any *one* stumble, but will rise together, as one, to celebrate on the illustrious street called Broad.

  • GEAGLE

    Getting the 3rd safety on my wish list can’t be the end of the world, but he ain’t Ward or Byrd either. We got a solid starter, who can contribute to a quality defense, not a game changer by any stretch of the he imagination but it was a solid move that does make us better……Jenkins and Cary have SB rings, Brad is solid…once we draft a serious safety talent and a quality corner to start developing we will be on our way.

    Really hoping we sign Carrington..I don’t get the fascination with Wooten, we already have that player his name is Kruger. Rather find out what we have in Krugs first before we add guys like Wooten..
    ..
    CB Chris Cook is visiting the Niners today, I know they will sign him and pass me off.
    ..
    Redskins want Sproles and Anthony Spencer

    patriots are talking about putting Browner across from Revis.

    You guys catch Sproles wife on twitter? She spazzed out and tore the saints a new one..

    Really hoping we add another quality defender or two…Malcom was a nice addition! but not enough

    • GEAGLE

      I love how simpletons call Ward just a box safety…so WTF does he do when opponents pass the ball? Just hang out in the box twiddling his thumbs? Lol

      Jaws watched the saints/Eagkes game and wasn’t impressed with Jenkins?funny how different people see different things. I heard some really smart people use the saints game to illustrate how much better Jenkins is then our safeties, yet jaws wasn’t impressed…

      What’s a shame is that Malcolm could have been an AMAZING addition for us, if he were a complimentary addition instead of our Crowned Jewel. Had we brought in Ward and a versatile guy like Jenk, our defense would have reached that next level…but because we made Jenkins our main acquisition, fans can’t appreciate him as much as they probably should, but he is a really quality piece to add to a team that’s trying to build a contender..

      A big positive about our safety position, is being passive means we really like Wolff and think he can be a quality starter. No way we would have been so passive if we weren’t confident in Wolff being a player for us…

      I’m hoping that we draft Deone Bucannon, and bring him along slowly. Around mid season when he should be ready to contribute, I would like to see us incorporate Dime Defense, with Wolf and Deone as the safeties and Jenk sliding into the slot, pairing with the Boy King as our slot corners…Coverage wise, we would have the pieces needed to play Dime, but I’m not exactly sure if Wolff and Deone can handle run support responsibilities in a dime…obviously you play a Dime in passing situation, but it’s imperative that your safety be really strong in run support, because if teams spread us out in a dime, and run the ball trying to trick us, we only have our 4 DL, 1 LB against 5 Olinemen, so your safeties have to be able to be counted on to come up and make a sure tackle in the run game, if your safeties miss the tackle, running back will be off to the races because there isn’t anyone else to make the stop. Ward and Jenkins would have allowed us to incorporate a nasty dime package…hopefully Wolff and the rookie can handle it, because the more looks we can throw at opponents the better

      • Token

        lol

    • cliff henny

      safety draft:
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      so, we’ve learned Howie/Kelly/Davis are taking this L/R safety philosophy dead serious. Does this change who’s a most likely target? Prior, ward and bailey seem to fit.

      • GEAGLE

        With Jenkins! I would probably rule out Dix and Ward for us

        • cliff henny

          ruled out HaHa 9 months ago, but some of that had to do with my anti-bama bias.

          • anon

            Stories say Chip was in Alabama for their pro day yesterday — maybe they are going to trade up for Dix (stupid in my opinion but oh well).

          • cliff henny

            Saban runs about the exact opposite defense Kelly does, my guess is he looking for another Square type, 5-star undervalued recruit. Kelly will be throwing elbows at LSU’s and FSU’s pro day to be front and center. Chip, if you read 24/7 and an idiot to clear house, clif henny on twitter

          • pjcostello

            Heck, for all we know he wanted to watch AJ McCarron! Just to make our heads spin.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah I was never thrilled with Dix…but say we signed Ward instead of Jenkins, in that case, I would have def looked at Dix……I’m not as down on Pryor as most people are, assuming he performs much better in his pro day I wouldn’t mind adding him at all. I view his basement as DJ Swearinger and his ceiling as Bob sanders…I’m not sure Pryor will be the BPA when it’s time for us to pick. But if we were to call his name I wouldn’t be upset like half of eagles nation…I just would prefer getting Buchanon in round 2 or Baily in round 3(if he even lasts that long)…Ed Reynold is prob my sleeper safety for us, tho I don’t know if you can really call a second round pick a sleeper

          • cliff henny

            here’s the thing, look at the resources Eagles are using on safeties, chung, Jenkins, 5th rounder in Wolff, Maragos, i’m not sure we should be looking at anything before round 4.

          • Andy124

            If there’s one this world needs, it’s more anti-bama bias.

          • JofreyRice

            I’m not as high on Haha as most, but I think he’s the best of this group. I think they really have to take a safety earlyish, now.

          • cliff henny

            I question whether they value the position. it’s a question of resources. goes against everything we thought under JJ and Dawks. hang 50, who cares then

          • JofreyRice

            I’m not sure they’ve ever valued the position. I think they’re behind the times, but we shall see. I think it’s going to bite them in the ass. Again.

            Chip doesn’t give a shit about defense. Chris Brown–Kelly Superfan #1–linked to this yesterday:

          • cliff henny

            let’s be fair…he doesn’t give 2 shits about defense

          • JofreyRice

            if he can hang 60+ points on teams like he did against Stanford, it’s not gonna matter.

          • cliff henny

            he thinks about football differently than we’ve been raised on. going to take awhile for fans to catch up. 63-45 is same as winning 28-10, just differently.

      • Eagles1018

        I feel Pryor is the best fit with Jenkins. I also like Deone Buchannon

      • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

        Maybe they have interest in Jimmie Ward if they can’t get Pryor

    • Ark87

      On the plus side, Jenkins seems like a solid guy. Seems like a no-nonsense guy. He knows who he is, he knows his strengths and weaknesses. Hopefully he will embrace the program that turned Nate into a decent….even solid tackler.

    • G_WallyHunter

      See this is the kinda optimism I like to see

    • Token

      I still cant get over your 180 degree turn on Jenkins in a weeks time. From pure hate of the thought of signing him to loving him lol. At least stick to your guns.

      • GEAGLE

        Wtf u talking about? I argued with this entire site PROMISING we would sign Malcom Jenkins.lm not a simple minded fool like you who looks at it as Hall of fame or bust. Your opinions are laughable…you may argue with mine, but more often then not, they prove to be True and you can’t even deny that…
        ..
        There are different degrees of playersl needed to make up a quality team, there are great game changers, quality starters, quality game ready depth players, and developmental depth players who aren’t ready to be thrown into a game…..I can be happy with certain players in each category as long as I believe in that certain player and we are talking about him in the proper context..
        ..
        I hold my breath and I’m rooting for us to sign Chris friggin Cook, and he is a complete BUST! He is literally nothing but a bust at this point, yet I’m nervous as hell that we will miss out on him…not because I think he will be some great addition, but because he is someone at the top of my list in the developmental category…
        .
        If we haned Jenkins 25mil in Guarentees and signed him to be our game changing Star, I would absolutely HATE him…but signing him for what he is, a complimentary starter who you can win games with, why the hell would I hate it?
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        Your opinion is insignificant. You are nothing more then comic relief…what you say holds NO weight!! You are nothing but a blowhard, you sit here and bad mouth a player you don’t even know. You trash players due to their reputation, maybe a highlight tape or a PFF ranking..that’s the extend of your knowledge of Malcom Jenkins..li wouldn’t even comment on a player if that was my extent of knowledge of him…you haven’t even watched all his snaps from 3 simple games, yet you think you actually have a clue?

        365 days ago, we had the same argument over about 15 young Eagles..probably 13 of them ended up making you look like a fool…I learn from my mistakes, and it’s rare I repeat them again..you are constantly a blow hard who runs his mouth trashing players you haven’t put in half the time to even have a decent opinion on…
        ..
        Back you go on the NO read list…doubt I’m missing much by not reading what you right. Enjoy the rest of your day. And keep being a clueless blowhard..I need people like you to make me look brilliant in the long run…from now on, I’m going to write down names and dates..,so when you prove to look like a fool, I can easily copy and paste this discussion for you to see :)….

        After our track records from this past year, it takes a TON of balls and Audacity for you to be talking trash to me…I guess kind of like the little broth syndrom. Who just talks crap, consistently gets slapped around. But never learns, continuing to run his mouth and get slapped around….

        Don’t get why someone SOOO miserable would put so much time following something he never has anything good to say about. Are U some masechist with “mommy issues”..did an eagle player shun you for an autograph when you were 7yrs old? All the crap you talked that proved to make you look completely clueless.and you never learn smh

        • cliff henny

          you took the bait.

  • jesse

    Hey what’s a good link on an up to date site for remaining FA listed by positron and rating? Also I hear Philadelphia isn’t the only town looking for a All pro saftey apparently Arizona is now amongst the three other states looking for pro saftey Darren Sharper after his apparent cross country rape spree

  • anon

    Ihedigbo visiting lions

    • cliff henny

      this point, might as well hold onto money, wait for next round of cap casualties. there’s always some.

      • Ark87

        yep, post draft is good. Inevitably some rookie turns a vet into a cap casualty.

        • Uncle Wonder

          Only thing is, those players are usually older and on the back ends of their original deals…oh well, take what you can get

          • Ark87

            most of them are, and all of them have limited up-side. We could definitely use the depth though.

      • JofreyRice

        Yeah, hopefully we can treasure someone else’s trash.

        • cliff henny

          or do an about-to-cut trash trade

  • anon

    Starting to understand why Howie made all those signings pre-FA. Should have gotten all of our jollies out of those and called it a day.

  • anon

    Funny our FAs basically out of the league unless we resign.

  • Will

    4. Chris Clemons- is still available wonder if Eagles go after him…28 yrs old 6′ 1″ 214 lbs. with great speed…4.41 40 time in 2009…

    2013 Grade: +4.1
    2013 Snaps: 1158

    Summary: Clemons made this same list last year, but after a stellar season he jumped five spots from the ninth-best free agent safety, to No. 4. Last year, with no big offers on the table, he returned to Miami on a one-year deal hoping to increase his value. The former fifth-round pick is now ready to cash in with a long-term deal, and while most will view him as a drop-off from the top three names, he might be a better value. Clemons was our 19th-ranked safety and excelled in coverage — his +7.2 grade in that department was ninth among safeties and he allowed just 0.20 yards per coverage snap, best in the league. However, his run defense grade dipped from +4.4 in 2012 to -3.6 in 2013 and his 14 missed tackles were 13th most of all safeties. Clemons will surely garner more interest than he did last year and be an asset to a team seeking a coverage-minded safety. per PFF

    • GEAGLE

      I’m about 80% confident that we have no interest in him..
      .,
      I wouldn’t mind getting james Ihedigbo to a cheap two year deal…would use him as a key ST player, first safety off the bench…dude is decent enough against the Run to come in on 3rd down and play safety next to Wolff in a dime package, while Jenkins slide into the slot to pair with Boykin as the two slot CBs..
      ..
      Clemons,major Wright.nate Allen, Rafael Bush is pretty much all thats left (wouldn’t given consider Roman Harper..
      ..

      • Joe L

        He played well enough last year that I don’t think he’s signing as someone’s third safety, especially not on a team with safety play as bad as this.

        • Will

          Figure him to start with the bunch we have now….3rd day of FA price should be right by now…

        • cliff henny

          almost have to assume from lack of activity, Kelly is pretty high on Wolff. I like the kid, cant say i’m sold, but they sure did put a guy out on the field in Philly that was a lot better than college tape. hope he continues to develop.

        • JofreyRice

          I’d have to think it would be his job to lose. Earl Wolff was an up and down 5th rounder. That job should be up for grabs.

  • Adam G

    The reason that super bowl teams are not built through free agency is that the process has its inherent flaws. Its a somewhat blind auction, which means not only can you outbid the next bidder by a lot, but when you land a big name free agent there is a high probability of the winner’s curse. In auctions, winner’s tend to overpay especially with an unknown quantity.

    • JofreyRice

      “Blind”? These guys have seasons worth of NFL games to look at. Gotta trust your scouts to spot the talent, and trust your coodinators to find ways to use it.

  • FinsterBaby

    I’m with Sheil on the appropriate level of skepticism over the Eagles FA moves. I think last season exceeded expectations and as a result Chip and to a very slightly lesser extent Howie deserve the opportunity to execute their offseason personnel plan without premature Chicken Littleism. I would be lying if I didn’t say I was somewhat disappointed with the FA moves so far but neither would I support signing Ward or Byrd at the numbers they got. I think it is 100% fair to judge the effectiveness of their plan after the draft but not before. Unfortunately that leaves us with quite a bit of time to wait for judgement. Plenty of time to focus on the players that are on our team, how they fit together, and on what we’d like to see happen at the draft. Regardless in the words of Kermit the Frog “It ain’t easy being green!”

    • Tom w

      Ward didn’t get a lot of money don’t know what you are talking.

      • Adam G

        Yeah, which leads you to believe they couldn’t have gotten him. Certainly seems like he took less money to specifically go to Denver.

        • Tom w

          Reports are we didn’t even look at him which I find upsetting

          • Adam G

            I did not say that, that was another poster. We have no idea how the process played out. Obviously it seems like a great price, but you don’t know if he rebuffed all other offers.

        • Tom w

          And your initial point was u didn’t like ward at the money he got. My point being he didn’t get a lot of money so don’t know why you didn’t like the money he got.

  • anon

    Sproles to Philly!!

    • anon

      We really don’t care about defense on this team AT ALL.

      • cliff henny

        Nope! win 70-35 is the goal

        • GEAGLE

          Screw you and your offense Cliff. Told you this crap would happen yesterday..Ignore the defense, but we will get Sproles, sign another WR, and only draft two defenders. I’m so tired of this offensive crap…I’m disgusted! Can’t even enjoy adding another weapon…
          ..
          Bill Davis shouldn’t have to be a marcel worker agaIn…hate you right now Clif, I blame you completely

          • cliff henny

            I’m in heaven…now…GET ME MIKE EVANS!!!!!!! F DEFENSE!!!! I can play safety up 28 by mid 2nd quarter

      • G_WallyHunter

        Maybe Chip has successfully convinced Howie and the rest of the organization that there’s only one side of the ball game, my only logical explanation here

        I picture billy Davis leaning against a wall twiddling his thumbs looking like an outcast as he watches on as Howie and Chip sign offense and big special teams contributors..

      • Will

        Sure starting to look that way do not see them going heavy Defense in the draft either…

    • Andy124

      What’d we trade for him?

      • cliff henny

        please say Graham, please say Graham

        • Andy124

          Please say Matthews. Please say Matthews. (Need Graham to move up a few spots to draft Barr.)

        • Token

          Read that NO thought they could get a 3rd or 4th rounder. REALLY hoping thats false. That would be brutal. Should be a 6th or 7th.

    • Token

      Hes on the downside, losing a step. Hope they only gave up like a 7th rounder.

      • Uncle Wonder

        Lol…i knew you would have something bad to say…Im sure he wont b here long term

        • Token

          I dont love something just for the sake of loving it. Yea I dont expect him to be here long. Whats his contract?

          theres your return man atleast. Take some snaps off McCoy. Still can do things in the pass game.

          I guess just go crazy on offense. Trade up for Evans while your at it.

          The biggest positive here is it should mean less Bryce Brown.

      • cliff henny

        relentless. why not continue to troll Geagle on here for a fight

      • Adam G

        Couldn’t you say the same about Byrd?

        • Token

          no

          • Adam G

            Oh you mean having plantar fasciitis in both feet while leaving the prime of his career isn’t the same?

          • Token

            no.

            Whats with Plantar Fasciitis being thrown around as if its a torn acl? Do you even know what it is? Not that big of a deal. Its discomfort.

          • Adam G

            Except he missed 5 games last year from something that “isn’t that big of a deal”. You are such the standard Eagles fan, go back to your hole.

          • Token

            Yea, thats why he missed those games. Nothing to do with his contract situation. Clueless.

          • Adam G

            Oh so that’s even better. A guy who doesn’t care about playing enough to play through a contract situation. Just stop being a fan if you are so negative, like I said go back to your hole. And its pretty funny that you think you know what was going on in another man’s head let alone a professional athlete.

          • Andy124

            Friendly advice, Token has gone into uber-Token mode. May be best to disengage for a bit. Say, a few months or so. :)

  • anon

    Sproles to Philly!!

    • JReamer

      Where are you seeing this?

      • G_WallyHunter

        Jeff mclane twitter I saw… We’ll get more deets momentarily

      • Andy124

        twitter

  • Eagles1018

    Looks like we got Darren Sproles

  • Uncle Wonder

    So I guess just like in the draft, Chip likes to pick up players who had success against him…guess Will Smith will be our nxt OLB, smh

  • UKEagle99

    Saints traded RB Darren Sproles to the Eagles!

  • Tom w

    Hope sproles can play safety lol.

    • cliff henny

      could go with my draft WRs in rds 1-5, the 2 that don’t make it as WR toss to safeties and have them ball hawk. be like the first Madden, INTs or TDs on every pass

  • Token

    “Sproles will eat into some McCoy snaps. But no reason both can’t be on field together. Sproles spent 39.1% of snaps split out wide/ in slot” – PFF

    • Uncle Wonder

      I doubt that will happen in reality…no one is afraid of Sproles running btwn the tackles…maybe a 3rd and long back.

      • Adam

        What?

        • Uncle Wonder

          I doubt he will eat into Shady’s snap # by much…the only obvious spot is 3rd and long, otherwise i would envision them being on the field together

  • Joe Thomas

    I guess we are done with the Texans, now its time to fleece the Saints

  • Eagles1018

    We needed Sproles. He’s a good switch up to McCoy, who is a shifty, speedy…. Wait….Sproles is the SAME GUY!!!

    Defense? No? Oh ok.

    • anon

      Nah totally different, Sproles is GREAT KR/PR, can catch the ball either out of the backfield or screens — everyone that wanted DAT basically wants what sproles is going to give us.

      • Andy124

        Actually, doesn’t look like Sproles was doing much KR any more.

  • Mugzy Payton

    So much rather have Byrd than Sproles. You have McCoy, Jackson, WR2, WR3, Ertz, Celek, and Sproles. You can only play 5 of them. You need 2 safeties and I think we have 3/4 of a safety.

    • Adam

      Trading for Sproles has absolutely nothing to do with not signing Byrd.

      • Andy124

        But what about the price of tea in China?

      • G_WallyHunter

        What do you mean? Byrd would be covering Sproles on a few snaps in practice, they are quite relevant

    • Mugzy Payton

      Sproles is on the market becasue the Saints upgraded their average safety for a pro-bowl safety.

      (to Adam)

      • Uncle Wonder

        Sproles is on the market b/c the team isnt in great shape against the cap…there are many players on a roster, one has nothing to do w the other…unless you are viewing it in a bubble.

        • Mugzy Payton

          Despite being so tight against the cap, they decided it best to spend a lot more money on Byrd than retain Jenkins. They could have resigned Jenkins and retained Sproles for the same cap space. So they view Byrd > Jenkins + Sproles.

        • Token

          They extracted value from a aging player on the downside. Its that simple. The Saints are gearing up for a title run obviously. A team like that doesnt give away a Sproles if they believe hes still at the top of his game.

          Hopefully the Eagles get a year or two out of him.

          • Eagles1018

            Nobody else is tired of being the bargain basement shopping team? Someone mentioned it, this is to load up and score like 35 points per game. Sorry, when you play the niners and hawks that won’t happen. And when you play other teams with fire power on offense HOW DO YOU STOP THEM WITH MID TIER GUYS? WTF already!!!!

          • Will

            Yup when the Offense stalls your screwed for sure just like the NO play off loss you can’t stop a great Offense and there Defense shuts Foles & company down when will the Eagles learn…???

  • Andy124

    Sproles loves playing with QBs from Austin.

    • pjcostello

      HA, good catch! From that same high school, no less!

    • G_WallyHunter

      Foles to Sproles lol,can’t wait to hear merrill or whoever say that one..

  • southy

    Kinda saw this coming. Not hard to see Chip salivating over the versatility of a guy like Sproles. That said, not too excited about it. Maybe KO returner, change-of-pace for screens and wheel routes, not too much of a feature.

    • anon

      He’s going to have a career year here. All that ghost motion that DJax was doing Sproles will be doing and sproles is 10x better at it.

      It’s just going to be a points race. It’s clear who is in charge pf player personnel — not Howie’s fault whether we do or don’t get a guy, all Chip.

      • Token

        Certainly appears that way.

        Go all offense in the draft. Screw it. Defense is too messed up to rebuild in the draft anyway. Im sure some UDFAs could fill in there.

      • cliff henny

        GOOD! i’m all in with Chip. hell, ready to get some A&B’s charges so he can get an upfront and personal look at Joyner and Smith

  • Brent E. Sulecki

    nice job. Sproles. who you going to worry about shady or sproles…nice weapons!! well done.

  • jcwhy

    What did the Birds give up for him?

    • southy

      Rumored to be a fifth

      • anon

        that’s DAT’s pick. Maybe this means they’re going after Lyerla late round?

      • Token

        yikes

      • Adam

        I wonder if it’s that 6th we turned into a 5th when we got snookered by the Pats for Sopoaga.

        • UKEagle99

          Wasn’t it a 7th to a 6th?

          EDIT: Nope it wasn’t!

          • Adam

            Could be I can’t really remember

          • Will

            7th for soap…

        • anon

          You mean we snookered the Pats. Yeah that’s probably our extra 5th that we got for dumping a guy that was terrible.

  • dollamakeuholla

    Eagles get Sproles….. LIKE THAT

  • Will

    Screwed the Defense again…….

    • southy

      Don’t think this has anything to do with neglecting the D. Versatile guy at a reasonable price. Same as the defensive signings so far. Now if they go WR OL in the draft, I’ll be right there with you.

  • sig

    Great move, this will help keep McCoy fresh through out the season. People are upset because he is a similar type of runner but he fits the offense and will be able to do the same things McCoy can do. Just adding another weapon to an already potent offense.

    • RIP illa

      How are Sproles and Shady similar type of runners? Sproles barely carries the rock. He’s pretty much a WR lined up in the backfield.

  • pjcostello

    Fifth round pick for Sproles. Hot damn!!!

    • Dan

      Awesome!!

    • Will

      Good value if true now we have 6 picks…great…

    • Token

      5th rounder for a 31 yr old player thats losing a step on the downside of his career. NO must be ecstatic.

      He could help the Eagles for a year maybe two. But its a weird move. I could understand it if the team was loading up for a title run. But they arent. They needed that 5th rounder to build through the draft like everyone wants to do.

      Funny how people talk out of both sides of their mouth.

      • Uncle Wonder

        I think the 5th is a bit much as well…we had 2 5ths and no 6th

        • jcwhy

          maybe its 2015 pick?

          • Token

            2014

          • Uncle Wonder

            If you view it as trading Sopoaga for Sproles then its not as bad lol

          • Will

            Soap was a 7th rd pick I thought?

          • Token

            Still think youd like that pick more than a rental player.

            I dunno. The way Howie drafts that 5th prolly didnt matter. However, like I said if they were loading up for a run its a perfect move. But since thats not the case id rather just stick with the pick, I guess. Just a odd move.

          • Adam G

            Your hate is too much. Howie been in charge of last two drafts, how did they turn out?

          • Token

            Spectacular!

          • Uncle Wonder

            Not every team that makes a run ‘loads up.’ After the year they just had you dont think this team has title aspirations right now?

          • Token

            no. Not realistically. They could have positioned themselves to truly contend. But thats hard to see right now. They have no defense. Even if every draft pick was on D, you are really hoping for a big impact from rookies right away.

          • Uncle Wonder

            Well sure, but we havent even started playing the games yet…and we are in an undeniably better position than say…midtier and bottom feeder teams. I dont think we are one player away either, but that doesnt mean we cant win it all

          • Will

            No we go as far as the Defense….when we play the top tier teams which we will see in next year’s schedule we will get blown out again behind a shabby Defense who can’t stop a good QB who will make the D look like swiss cheese again…

        • GEAGLE

          Would have been much happier if we traded a 5th for Sproles and the saints 6th rounder…
          ..
          But I’m not too worried about his age. It’s not like he will be our feature back, who runs up the gut and takes a beating…I picture a Brian Westbrook role, minus the RB carries…for years he has been primarily a pass catcher so it’s not like his body has been pounded on by defensive linemen..he showed no signs of slowing down last year catching more then 70 balls. And with shady here, Sproles role will get a major, reduction, add in our sport science and he should be fine these next two years.
          ..
          If we are serious about taking a run at the Lombardi trophy these next two years while we have the advantage of not eating up 20mil in cap space paying a QB, then I’m NOT OPPOSED to adding 29-31yr olds, AS LONG as we can get out of their contracts after the 2015 season…If we aren’t DEAD SERIOUS about winning a SB these next two years, then there is no point in adding 30yr olds…
          ..
          But now that they showed us they are ok with adding a 31yr old(which shows we are committed to win now mode), then I hope we can get one of these older edge rushers to take a two year deal and accept a Dwight Freeney role trying to win a SB these next two years. If we can’t trade for Dion, the next most ideal scenario I can see is, no one wanting to give Julius Peppers a mega deal, get him to sign a two year reasonable contract, cut Cole, draft a OLB in the first two rounds and let him learn behind peppers, ease his way more and more into the rotation, and have him take over as a 3down OLB in 2016.
          ..
          Then again. I literally have no idea what level Peppers has been playing at recently..haven’t watched him at all, haven’t even seen his stats…however I have seen Jared Allen and a totally believe he has plenty left in the tank and I trust Allen to continue to play at a high level more then I trust Ware..problem is I don’t see how Jared could fit in up it scheme well enough to pay his price tag

      • RIP illa

        Devils advocate: his receiving numbers are way awesome for an RB and for most WRs. Chip’s got his toy. Wonder who goes, Brown or Polk. Better be Polk!

        • cliff henny

          tucker. can carry 4rbs

          • RIP illa

            And how many WRs, plus 3 TEs?

          • cliff henny

            asking me…10 WRS! think they carried 6 WR, 3TEs and 3rbs on active for most games last yr. so, shady, brown sproles, with polk watching.

          • Uncle Wonder

            and no FB

          • RIP illa

            Our 3rd TE is our FB.

          • Uncle Wonder

            You sure? Andy used to carry 3 TEs didnt he?

          • RIP illa

            Not the last few years. Clay and Celek was about it. He always kept an eye on other TEs and on the PS tho.

        • Token

          His return numbers are down and his receiving totals have declined for two years in a offense that love to feed him.

          Like I said, you hope hes got 2 years left. But even if he does, still odd.

          • RIP illa

            Yup. I don’t like the age either and I stated how much I didn’t wanna go after him in FA. But make no mistake, he’s still dangerous. 600 receiving yards is nothing to scoff at. Hopefully he’s not like a James Casey signing, where we pay good money but Chip doesn’t use him.

        • anon

          Brown is gone unless he can learn to run up the guy.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Henny, what’s sproles cap hit next yr, fifth round pick sounds like a bargain depending on that hit and what’s guaranteed
    Sproles in final year of contract, they gave up the fifth rounder from the soap trade, wow what a move, it may not be defense folks but its a damn good move, wonder what the cap hit is 3.5 mil or so I think..

    • Chris

      overthecap has him at 4.25mil, 2014 is the last year of his 4yr deal with the saints

      • Token

        ok, so a one year rental. Makes it even more strange.

        • Chris

          http://www.overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Darren%20Sproles&Position=RB&Team=Saints

          i’m thinking what Cliff said, maybe hammer out an extension to make him happy and give us some cap relief

          • Uncle Wonder

            We dont need cap relief

          • Chris

            obviously don’t need it at this point, but i’d prefer a 2-yr deal as opposed to a 1-yr rental. if cap hit gets lowered, so be it, it can’t hurt.

        • anon

          That’s less than Riley is making — who do you think will have more yards? I’mm sure we’ll extend him — probably little real $$ in that 4.25mm

      • cliff henny

        Eagles don’t pay the prorated bonus.

        • Chris

          ah yes, my mistake. thx. that’s why you’re the expert!

          • cliff henny

            nawh, just have OTC.com in favorites

    • cliff henny

      3.m,but on final yr. would be surprised if he got new 2 yr deal with some cap relief

  • GEAGLE

    Hope we go 2-14 next year with the offense averaging 47pts per game. So tired of this crap

    • anon

      Man, surprised to see you that down — but sort of agree with you.

      • Will

        The Eagles do not give a shat what kind of embarrassing Defense they put on the field …

      • GEAGLE

        Ridiculous…if you actually look at my pre free agency posts, i wanted to add Sproles, and I don’t think it takes Nostradamus to tell us the eagles would have interest. Sproles is a HUGE addition to our offense, but it’s tough to enjoy when you pass on like 100 defensive free agents….like screw the defensiv stars, I couldn’t get a single defensive no name depth player I wanted or not a single defensive reclamation project like signing cheap bust like Chris Cook or mount Cody…..it be one thing if they eagles werent signing defenders I wanted, but still adding defenders they think will help us, but it’s an absolute DISGRACE that we only added ONE player to this defense,. I don’t ask for bank breaking starters..I talked about Byrd for to stinking years, but as soon as I saw the price tag, I didn’t utter a single complaint about not signing him…but Wtf, I can’t even get a single 750k per year back up defender who people haven’t even friggin heard of like Jamarri Lattimore?

        Sproles is a BIGTIME addition for Chip n FOles, but the lack of balance is really pissing me off. It’s even harder to swallow when the defense doesn’t even need that many additions…BUT WTF you gotta ATleast add 3 new defenders that will contribute to the rotation in some capacity,.,I’m not even seeing defenders left on the market that can realistically help us…IF WE DONT sign Carrington, then I don’t even know how else to improve out unit…we had TOO MUCH MONEY, with TOO FEW holes, to not be talking about a significantly upgraded defense today

        • Ark87

          Wonder if he will make contributions in the return game….and at least this puts the nail in the DAT, or anybody else like him, coffin. But there it is again….Versatility.

          • anon

            Secondary class is so deep i think we’ll get some good guys.

          • GEAGLE

            You would think he would contribute to our return game..but we are definitely going to draft a WR…if we take a WR like Mathews or Devante, then sprols would most likely return kicks…but If the WR we draft is a Odell Beckham, Brandin cooks type who are also explosive return men. We probably go with the rookies and let veteran Sproles preserve his body for the offense..that’s my guess

    • Token

      Ive never seen you so depressed

    • cliff henny

      draft Mike Evans…hang 50! can run out 11 UDFA’s on defense, wont matter…it’s the new Eagles way

    • phillyphanlvnv

      How can one not sit back and laugh at this pathetic organization acquiring OLD RB from a franchise ready to release said player. And then do it for a 5th rounder at that… Same round players such as Trent Cole, Cam Chancellor and Richard Sherman are found. This shit is friggin hilarious. What probably frustrates me more is the total LACK of draft picks we already have. Add that to the lack of trade-able assets that can acquire us multiple picks, and we basically have an 8-8 team at best, but that DOES compete for the division crown as pathetic as that sounds. But one thing to be happy about… The NFC West was equally as pathetic 4 years ago and look at how the entire division has turned it around. Expect something similar in the NFC East in the near future, just not this season, and probably not even the next.

      • anon

        Sproles is BY far the best at what he does — can’t argue for getting him he’s going to be an absolute beast in this offense.

        • cliff henny

          right!? 5th? what’s the hit ratio on these picks. hoping for depth spot starter. jeeze….talk about over reactions.

      • GEAGLE

        Dude if you are going to post crap like that, don’t expect me to agree.
        ..
        I can be mad that they are ignoring the defense, while will acknowledging we added a very quality weapon, which stylistically is a piece we didn’t have and a piece Chip n FOles can do big things with….my anger stems from ignoring the defense, not with adding Sproles..i actually expected it and wrote a post about the type of addition he could be with him and shady both running wheel routes down each sideline…this was a great move for the offense…I just wish we would also give Billy Davis some weapons

  • Will

    Safety and OLB still big ? marks and you sign a 31 yr old RB?

  • Clamdigger

    I still can’t believe we got fleeced so hard on that Sopoaga trade.

    • anon

      Yeah traded Sop for Sproles — that looks terrible!

  • BobA

    Add Darren Sproles to the nest, they just traded with the Saints. Now things are heating up!

  • Tom w

    Please feel free to disagree but couldn’t we of just drafted deanthony Thomas or dri archer w that fifth rounder rather than an aging sproles and got a much younger and cheaper version of the same past his prime player?

    • Token

      yea, its weird.

    • GEAGLE

      DAT will be lucky to grow into half the player Sproles is

      • Tom w

        Was.

        • GEAGLE

          Hahahaha silly. You don’t get to say WAS about a RB who just came off a 70plus reception season….I’m not even happy about the addition, but ATleast I can acknowledge we added a quality weapon, and ST player…plus I like that we stole him from the skins

    • sig

      I think DAT is going to be gone in the 5th round. We try and predict what round he will go in, but all it takes is one team falling in love with him and he could be taken in rounds 3 or 4. Really you just don’t know he will be around and fall to us in the 5th.

      • Uncle Wonder

        Am i in the twilight zone?

    • JofreyRice

      I am interested to see what Kelly can do with Sproles. Great receiver, this could look a little like the way Bryan Westbrook was used by Andy Reid. Dri Archer or D’AT are faster than Sproles in a straight line, but neither of them have his feel for the game or receiving ability. He’s not going to be much of a help running the ball, I think, but he could take some of those screens from Shady, to give him a breather.

      The downside is true, Sproles will be a 31 year old running back with an expiring contract that was reportedly on the verge of being released a couple days ago. A 5th seems a little steep in what’s been called the best draft in 10 years–and I know that’s rhetoric, but it does seem like a deep draft. I’ve got no objection to adding Sproles, but a 5th? I was hoping they’d add 5ths, not trade them away.

      And considering they don’t believe in free agency, building through the draft is even more important.

      • phillyphanlvnv

        32! BIG DIFFERENCE!

        • Adam

          Wrong.

        • JofreyRice

          no, he’s 30 now. He’ll be 31 when the season starts. It’s still old for a running back, but he’s really more a screen receiver than runner, anyway. Something like 200 yards rushing last year, but 700 in the air.

      • Andy124

        Yeah. I like the addition of Sproles. But I really like draft picks. Once he starts catching balls and making defenders look silly I’ll probably get over the loss of the pick.

      • Maggie

        Like your upside. Not long ago, in fact, there were several people here suggesting that very thing. A quality, dependable backup RB to give Shady a breather. So now they have one. Isn’t he an upgrade over Brown? Maybe even Polk? For a fifth? Why not?

        • JofreyRice

          I think he’s more of a first-string receiver/runner than a second string running back. If Shady goes down, I don’t think Sproles can carry the load.

          If I’m Kelly, I’m doing something similar to what Payton did: Keep 3 running backs on the roster, in addition to Sproles–your starter (Pierre Thomas/Shady) backup (?) and developmental guy (Bryce Brown/Polk).

          With how important the running game is to Kelly’s offense, I think you have to be more comfortable than normal with the idea of your backup running back as an injury starter your entire offense can run through.

    • phillyphanlvnv

      This here is the million dollar questions. Why trade for a Sproles who has been on the wrong side of 30 before last season even started, and proved with his numbers that the slide is indeed coming. Does Chip really think that poorly of D? Maybe he just figures he already plans to get rid of Jackson, maybe he just knows he really doesn’t like either players attitude in his lock room.

    • anon

      Don’t know if they’d be there in the 5th. Plus we still have our normal 5th rounder. He’s by far the BEST at what he does and can do kr/pr. If you play all yards fantasy you know he’s a monster.

      • phillyphanlvnv

        He WAS putting up monster numbers. KR/PR numbers were pretty pedestrian last year, and probably only going down. People don’t realize, this is an OLD RB who has taken a massive number of hits in his career. Add to that he has always been undersized, and then the numbers begin to slip… I recall a game last year the Saints played, forgot the opponent. Well Sproles brought out a KR and took a serious hit, and was just never the same the remainder of the season. Much like people do not realize that last season after taking multiple facemask full of snow, Calvin Johnson was not the same the rest of the year. These “GREATS” take hits that truly do change the way that said player plays and it totally effects their futures. Sproles is gone in NO because the dude CANNOT PRODUCE ANYMORE. Period.

    • oreofestar

      We basically lost Sopoaga for Sproles

      • Will

        Sopoago we got a 7th round pick so no that’s not true…

        • oreofestar

          no we got a 5th

          • Will

            Thanks…

        • Andy124

          For Sopoaga we moved up about a dozen spots from 6th to 5th.

    • cliff henny

      either’s good. 5th rdrs aren’t sure things. least we have a known here.

      • phillyphanlvnv

        Last thing you do is send away a 5th round pick who might actually make the team better, for a player that will most likely NOT be on the team within 2 years. Sproles is done and the Saints know it. You’re only as good as the last time you touched the field, and Sproles was a big part of why the Saints didn’t move on last year. Dude took a hit and was done playing the rest of the game. You could see in his face that his body doesn’t even feel the same.

        • cliff henny

          generally encourage new blood posters on 24/7…sorry I cant say that for you

          • oreofestar

            I am supposed to be the crazy new guy why is he here :P

          • cliff henny

            nawh, u r doing a great job

          • oreofestar

            Good, do not want to disappoint anyone

    • Maggie

      So the Eagles are the only team who will be drafting?

  • Will

    Spoles boost the Offense and good value with a 5th pick…but what have you done for the weakest part of your team the Defense?

    • cliff henny

      increasing possibility of scoring 50 helps defense alot. it’s a new brand of football, Eagles are playing basketball of the football field. see if teams can stay up/scoreboard pressure.

      • Will

        Yeah saw that plan in action against the Saints in the play offs how’d that work out? Foles marches down scores with a few minutes left and the Defense losses the game. What a Figging surprise?

        • cliff henny

          issue was offense stalling in 1st half. hey, not saying it’s a fool-proof plan.

          • Will

            Yeah when an Offense stalls then it’s up to the Defense to keep you in the game. Very hard to do with the 30th ranked Defense in the NFL…

          • cliff henny

            well, get Mike Evans and offense wont ever stall. ’13 team was not the finished product, Will. have fun defending shady sproles mac jax and ertz

          • aub32

            All depends on Foles. If he is off, we are screwed. There’s no way everyone of these weapons will have an off day at the same time. Foles just needs to quickly identify the matchup that he can exploit. If he can’t or takes too long like in the Saints game, then it should come as no surprise if our D can’t hold up late.

          • cliff henny

            if Foles cant run this group, plus adding Evans Benjamin or Beckham, I have no time for him. F, what does he need!??!??!

          • aub32

            I was speaking more toward an individual game. I have no doubt Foles will have some success with this group. I meant if he fails to show up in the playoffs (have an off day) there’s no defense to back him up. (i.e. Wilson vs the Saints)

    • Maggie

      They’ve signed, what, 5 players so far on D? Or is it 6 players? In 2 1/2 days.

  • Adam

    6th for Gabbert… 5th for Sproles. I’ll take the latter.

    • oreofestar

      The 49ers have a super bowl contending roster and 12 picks we have HORRIBLE D and now 6 picks, not the same they can have luxury pickup

      • Adam

        There is nothing luxury about throwing away a pick on a terrible player.

  • oreofestar

    I like the addition, sort of… I would have really liked it if we had bolstered up the D and this was a luxury pick up, I hope Howie has some decent-good db he wants to trade for

    • anon

      It’s not Howie making the decisions it’s Chip — feel like this made that clear.

      • oreofestar

        So it is just like it has always been

    • cliff henny

      seriously, how can anyone be against a proven player for an additional 5th? if it was 3rd, hear me complaining, but com’on, 5th are depth players 90% of the time

      • oreofestar

        I wish we had waited forhim to be released or we would trade for Defensive players, I am not complaining I am just not in love with this move

        • oreofestar

          Still nt a horrible deal though hopefully we extend him and get more value

        • GEAGLE

          If we didn’t trade for him the redskins would have….it was a qualify move. Just sucks to see us ignore the defense and adding him cost us the opportunity to draft an extra defender…then again. I thought we would wait til rounds 4 or 5 to address our lack of CB depth. We traded away a 5th which I wanted to use on CB Terrence Mitchell, and immediately signed Nolan Carroll improving our CB depth. So in my eyes, no harm no foul…

          Steven Ridley right now is talking about what a special backfield we will have with Shady and Sproles..he says Sproles is such a special player that the Patriots actually have plays named after him, and that he never thought the saints would let him get away, but that this is a huge addition for the eagles

      • Will

        Because your Defense ranks 30th in the NFL and over the last 3 days in FA you’ve done nothing to change that…

        • cliff henny

          have a thing coming up in 3 months. relax.

          • Andy124

            2 months?

          • Will

            Eagles go Defense in the Draft fat chance it happens before the 3rd rd…lol…

          • cliff henny

            good, hang 60 then !

      • Token

        I love proven players for picks. But, a 31 yr old thats declining that you have for a one year rental. On a team not likely to contend this year. Its just weird. I dont HATE it, its a fun piece, but its odd for this team.

        • cliff henny

          sproles has plenty left. Hals probably has him hooked up to an IV smoothie already

          • Token

            He didnt look like he does. You could tell this year theres starting to be the loss of speed a bit. Maybe the smoothies are the key.

          • Dubya

            Possibly, but there was no guarantee a player like DAT would be there for the Eagles in the later rounds and who knows he might be the most over hyped 3rd day draft player. Chip and Howie want to go in the draft not specifically targeting anyone. The guy is fast and shifty and jack of all trades but Sproles has done what DAT has done in a college game as a pro. Granted he is older but at least we know he can help with ST give shady and break on 3rd long, play in the slots go super spread and he’s tough. I look at DAT and he looks like Sean Lee can break him in two. A 5th rounder I can live with. I just want to know how he affects are remaining cap space. Yes I know we didn’t spend anything we should have loads. Give it a rest people

          • Token

            With the way Chip looks at the game, they may still draft DAT or that other little fast kid. Archer? I forget his name.

          • Maggie

            “Chip and Howie want to go in the draft not specifically targeting anyone.” I’d be interested in hearing how you found this out.

          • Dubya

            I guess I should be more specific in what I meant. Its been about the BPA lately with Howie, Chip has not said anything like that but I like to think he would like the best football player regardless of position. I’m not saying they wouldn’t be interested in DAT but I feel like they would like to go into the draft with most holes filled and its just picking up talent. I’m not saying DAT isn’t talented or won’t be drafted by the Eagles but no it won’t be a crap we gotta get another weapon for the offense lets take him with our 3rd round pick or 2nd round pick. I think Howie has learned about not panicking with “holes” in our team.

        • Maggie

          Kick returns? Package in a trade?

    • phillyphanlvnv

      Dude, Chip Kelly is picking up the Saints bargain bin players that he sees watching film of their last game, that he thinks would make the current team better. What Kelly isn’t doing is watching these guys the last time THEY were on the field, and then asking themselves, why would a team be looking to unload these players in particular, if they do not believe that better options can be had?

  • Uncle Wonder

    At this rate the actual Sproles post will be empty

  • Token

    So, this kind of comes off as a move for the sake of making a move. Sproles wont be here when we have a team that can contend. So why give up a 5th rounder for him? In a deep draft. On a rental player. Thats a move a team thats looking to win right now makes. The Eagles obviously havent put themselves in that position. The fact is Sproles is a declining player. Maybe he gives you one awesome year, but I cant figure out what benefit that has to this team this year.

    The question is can they make the offense soo good that their horrible D doesnt matter? I doubt it. They wont be as good as Denver was last year and Denver still didnt win.

    I cant get a read on what they are thinking. Are they gonna go really D heavy in the draft and hope the rooks can contribute just enough to make the D solid? Or are they gonna go offense heavy and try to make that ridiculous?

    They need to try and extract value from Graham if theres any. I think its stupid to trade Curry, but they dont care for him so get what you can. Recoup some picks.

    Maybe the best bet is to go offense heavy again. Then next offseason you can piece together FAs to form a average enough defense. Im sure thats what Chip would prefer to do.

    • oreofestar

      I am waiting for us to pick up Jimmy Graham and become ridiculous :P

    • Adam G

      What if they value the front end of the D way more than the back, which it seems like they do, and they didn’t love anybody out there, especially enough to give huge money to. We heard they liked Worilids, but there wasn’t really a solid OLB edge rusher available, even though you love MJ, who got PAID. Next year there will be a ton of FAs because of the 4 year contract structure of draft picks. You can’t force it.

      • Token

        I dont love MJ. Your thinking of Geagle.

        I just want to see them value something on D. They dont value safeties, they dont have good starters at corner and theres not a pass rushing OLB on the roster in a 3-4 D. Thats nuts.

        Personally I dont need a great D. The Eagles are gonna be a offensive powerhouse. Thats Chip. But the D has to be average. I just want like a 12th-15th ranked D. That would be good for this team. Right now I think they are far from that. At some point they atleast have to get a pass rusher that can play this season. Trading up a bit for Barr or Ford may have to be in the cards. If they like either.

        • Adam

          Thoughts on adding Raji for a year?

          • oreofestar

            No thank you

          • Adam

            Thanks Token

          • oreofestar

            your welcome

          • GEAGLE

            No…all name. Little game….s best ball is behind him…there are cheaper young DL available who’s best ball i still ahead of them…Raji is someone who gets signed off reputation and then gets cut in a year or two

        • oreofestar

          That is what I have been saying if you put Byrd or Revis or Ward on this D and sprinkle in depth and draft picks we would have a middle of the pack D like 16th or something which would be better than 29th

        • Adam G

          Let’s get something straight, I believe the best way to improve this D, if there was one move, would be to get a lights out ROLB that can get after the QB. But who could they have gotten?

      • GEAGLE

        MJ? The kid you keep arguing is only a DE after our coaches and front offense had interest in him as their OLB? That MJ?

        • Adam G

          Yeah, the one who is getting paid as a top ten DE end with the production that doesn’t match. The one who had his best year playing on the same line as Geno Atkins.

    • Maggie

      It’s entirely possible that they don’t want anybody to get a read on what they’re thinking.

  • Stuart Philp

    Just signed Nolan Carroll too!

    • Will

      Hope this is true but still need a true Safety….Curtis Marsh pack your bags…

    • Uncle Wonder

      Yeah i just posted in the other thread…he has good size for sure

      • Will

        Carrol has awesome speed…

    • Token

      Thats interesting. Carroll is a starting corner. May have seen the last of Fletch. No dead money.

      • Tony Alva

        Why cut fletcher? There’s no salary cap issues at this point. Why not have depth at cb so we do t have to trot roc Carmichael out there this year?

        • Token

          Id keep him as the 4th for this year ive said that. Dont know that theyd do it. Need the roster spots to keep young corners.

          • Tony Alva

            Oh ok didn’t see where u said that. Just saw directly above this where you said may have seen last of fletcher. My mistake

          • Adam

            Might actually be Cary. His salary is fully guaranteed on sunday. We could save $3.1m if we cut him before then. Here’s hoping.

          • oreofestar

            no way I would rather pay him 6 and play here then 3 to play somewhere else

          • Adam

            Why? Fletch is the better corner of the 2.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            there’s just no need to cut him. we have no depth. just because 1 of those 3 won’t be starting doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be on the team. no need to save 3mil anyway

          • Token

            Well im assuming they keep what 5 corners? So even if id like to have Fletch or Cary as a #4, id rather have young kids at those spots to develop. For this team in its current position.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            if they’re drafting 2, keep 6. No reason to put a late-round pick, developmental guy on the field too early, and need someone NOT named Roc or Curtis to play in case of injury.
            As you have said time and time again, $$ is not an issue.

          • Adam

            I’m hoping depth comes from the draft. It’s more of a financial reasoning, it’s tough to justify playing 3rd corner that much money and the deadline is approaching. I would love to have all 4 around though.

          • RIP illa

            Thank You!!!

          • oreofestar

            That is debatable and do you think Cary Williams is worth 3mil to this team because that is what you save if you cut him, and right now Cary is arguably our best corner if we got Revis or Verner then yeah maybe but we didn’t

          • Adam

            Cary is not our best corner. Boykin is much better, and Fletch is better as well.

          • oreofestar

            Boykin is inside and I am not arguing Cary vs Fletch on the bright side we have some depth from Carroll why lose it over 3mil making him start

          • Token

            Very true. Carroll is probably better.

            Not sure where Cary gets his rep around here. Dont be fooled by the swagger act. He sucks at playing cornerback. I dont care about the other stuff.

          • RIP illa

            Yet the numbers for C-Will and Fletch are very similar. Fletch is the better cover guy, and that’s pretty much it. So if that means, better…then the numbers show and as well as the games played last season, that it’s not by that much.

          • Token

            True. 3 mil dead money. Doubt they do it. But paying Cary 6.4 mil is a travesty.

  • anon

    Sproles is the No. 1 pass catching RB in the league over the last 5 years. And we got him for a 5th and the last year of a K — can’t complain really.

    • oreofestar

      I hope we extend him a year or 2 and lower the cap hit

  • oreofestar

    See now we might be able to trade Brown or Polk or something for a late pick if anyone would do that

  • aub32

    I’m so tired of some of you fans playing the conserve money for the future angle, or bringing up the fact that other teams didn’t do much. What’s even more annoying is the ones who act like other fans are idiots by stating the obvious “You need to build through the draft”. Who on this site doesn’t know that. However, draft picks don’t always turn into pro bowlers. Who cares about non playoff teams standing pat. The teams that were ahead of us in the talent department either got better and widened the gap or stood pat and left the gap the same. O but aub, what about the draft? News flash, we aren’t the only team that gets to draft new players. Every team, including the ones that made moves in FA, will get the chance to draft and add talent. Now I am not suggesting we should have bought every big name FA. However, there is nothing wrong with overpaying one guy when you have a crap ton of cap room and two players that would have filled the teams biggest need for the last half decade. Well Howie said he’s going for a batting average approach. How can you get a good batting average when you are afraid to swing the bat. We still have no CB depth, a huge question mark at the 2nd starting safety spot (not to mention no depth there). We have one actual OLB on the roster. Also, the D line needs bodies.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      I’m so tired of some of you fans….

      sheesh. what’s worse, those fans you speak of or the guy writing a long-winded paragraph about them?
      good lord, we all need a week’s break from this site.

      • Adam

        Yeah great way to start a paragraph to really get someone to take you seriously.

        • Dubya

          I wish “you fans” would stop posting. Everything has to jump ugly in 2 secs with this board. Over at Tommy’s board it hit the fan in 2 sentences. Ease up people. Wouldn’t say it to people’s face don’t say it on the board. Happens every year with FA and the draft without fail.

      • Eagles4Life

        Aub has PTSD from the first two days lol. I can’t blame him. Still disappointed with the defensive moves or lack thereof, but this morning was good news.

      • JofreyRice

        we should all just agree not to take each other too seriously.

    • Adam

      I’m sure the feeling is mutual, aub. You have your right to your opinion just like any fan does. Doesn’t mean they’re right, you’re wrong or vice versa. It’s called the internet and you’re going to often have several varying and different opinions.

    • anon

      Exhale — we’re making moves.

  • RIP illa

    Finally some really great news. We just added Carrol and got depth and a little better and faster at CB!

    • Eagles4Life

      AMEN. I was waiting for something…Sproles and Carroll made this a good morning.

      • oreofestar

        How much did Carroll cost us

        • Eagles4Life

          Two year deal and a little over 2 mil per. Good contract.

      • RIP illa

        A very good morning. Too bad there are no more DE’s left. We really need quality depth there.

    • cliff henny

      NOOOOO…more offense!

      • oreofestar

        I want Jimmy Graham!

        • cliff henny

          YES! screw kickers and long snapper, wasting 3 spots that can be used for more weapons

          • oreofestar

            Lol forget the D with Graham we put up 50 a game

          • Andy124

            John Dorenbos must stay. You’re on twitter now. Follow his wife.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            thank you for that wonderful advice. made my day

      • GEAGLE

        Don’t worry I’m sure these jackasses will do something aggrivating like give Carringtons money to Steve smith smh

        • cliff henny

          defense is fine. hold them to 49, should be enough. i’m literally giddy for 1st cowboys game!

          • GEAGLE

            Screw you! I’m taking this all out on you. This is all your fault!!! Just watch henney… Paybacks a no comment ahahah I digress..anyway, just watch im gonna learn evll Voodoo/Santaria and I’m gonna sacrifice as many goats and squirls as it takes for my spell to work, and on draft night, you will sit there and drool with excitement as Mike Evans keep falling down draft boards.18..19…20…21..;22 OMG Evans is still on the board. What a no BRAINER……
            Goodell: ” with the 22nd pick in the NFL draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select.,wait, what’s this? The eagles have drafted Zac Martin and have traded him to the miami dolphins for Dion Jordan!!!” … Chip Kelly passed on Evans, what a COLLOSAL upset!!!

          • cliff henny

            i want more! waves and waves of weapons.

          • GEAGLE

            Must be nice loving the side of the ball we focus all of our attention in.,..must be nice to be stacked with an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction yet still kick your feet up comfortable knowing that you will still get more weapons in the draft, you damn gluten. You been eating long enough now stop being greedy! i literall have to worry about us not adding a single OLB continuing to be weak at the most important position of a 3-4…like we all know how bad we need an edge rusher, but would anyone be that surprised if we ignored it til the 4th?

            This is philly where we are used to tough. Bruising defenses…and if we are going to win a SB these next two years we will have to go thru some top defenses in cold weather games to get to the SB…don’t care how great our offense is, Niners,hawks,panthers will be dogfights in playoffs. We can’t let those teams have drastically better defenses…we can be an offensive team, but we need to close the gap between our defense and the top NFC teams if we are going to be a serious competitor

          • cliff henny

            actually, am huge defensive guy. all sports i played, always played defense, or took best offensive guy (trust me, whole county hated me-was the Ron Artest of Lancaster county). switched over because knew what they were getting in Kelly. might as well be happy if i’m going to follow team like i do.

          • Maggie

            And you’re a gluten!

    • Token

      Id be a little surprised if Carroll isnt here to start. Curious to see the contract.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        2/$5.2 so really only on the hook for 1
        They get to choose between all the CBs next offseason, who stays/goes

        • Token

          Youd figure one will be drafted. So yea, Throw Boykin in there and they will choose what they want to do.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            it’s regardless of draft, since they’re not going to cut a draft pick a year later. I see it as an open battle between sconces, fletch, carroll, and Boykin this year, with 2 of those likely coming back for ’15 (maybe 3 if you’re a huge optimist, but I know my audience here)

          • cliff henny

            built in options. continuously add depth and replacements. seems like something easy to keep rolling over. don’t get trapped into any crazy contracts.

      • RIP illa

        I would hope they brought him in with the intentions of letting him seriously challenge for a starting spot. The contract doesn’t show much faith in him tho.

        • Andy124

          Looks like a textbook “players set the depthchart” situation.

  • Will

    2012 Review:

    Nolan Carroll2012 StatsGames14Starts10INTs0TDs0Sacks1Tackles47

    Carroll frustrates Dolphins fans like few other players. According to Pro Football Focus, Carroll was the 67th ranked cornerback in 2012, out of 113 qualifying corners. Of the fourteen games in which he appeared, Carroll scored positively, according to PFF, in seven contests. In the other seven, he feel below zero, with a disastrous Week 11 performance.

    Carroll took over the starting cornerback position when Richard Marshallsuffered a season ending back injury. As a starter, Carroll struggled, and deserved the criticism. He was caught out of position too many times, was picked on by opposing offenses, and would have several ugly pass interference penalties called against him.

    Why he could improve in 2013:

    Carroll should return to being a reserve cornerback this year, and he should find more success. He is not going to be asked to cover one of the top two receivers from the opponent. Not being asked to perform at that level should allow Carroll to return to his strengths.

    The 2013 season is just Carroll’s fourth in the league and seventh year as a cornerback. He’s still a young player and is still developing his skills. A second year under defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle, a former defensive backs coach, should set up Carroll for success.

    Previous Roster Breakdowns: Ryan Tannehill Armon Binns Jason Trusnik Jared Odrick Charles Clay Jasper Collins Dannell Ellerbe Richie Incognito Kelcie McCray Daniel Thomas Randy Starks Dan Carpenter Josh Kaddu

    Why he could regress in 2013:

    The blueprint for how to attack Carroll was made last year. With all of the play time he had, teams know what he brings when he is on the field, and know his weaknesses. If he does not show improvement, he will definitely be a liability for the team.

    While Carroll is young, he is getting to the point that he is what he always will be. This is the make or break year for the cornerback.

    Odds he will make the 53-man roster:

    Odds are better that Carroll will make the roster than miss it, but it would not be something on which I would put money. Currently, the Dolphins have 10 cornerbacks, with an 11th if you count Jimmy Wilson, who is still listed as a safety, but has been playing the nickel corner role in OTAs. Carroll is playing as the second string corner right now, but rookie Jamar Taylor has not been playing, and will likely either take a first or second string slot, which could push Carroll back on the depth chart. At that point, it becomes a matter of position depth versus potential on who stays with the Dolphins.

    Carroll could find himself on the wrong side of the cut line if he does not impress in training camp. per PFF

    • Adam

      2012 review?

      • Will

        what I could find on him…

    • oreofestar

      He is a solid season last year

    • cliff henny

      can he high 5 the offense after scoring 7th or 8th TD of the game? that’s all the back-ups will need to do

  • Will

    Eagles signed CB Nolan Carroll to a two-year, $5.2 million contract.
    It’s a solid depth add for the Eagles secondary. We don’t expect Carroll to beat out Cary Williams or Bradley Fletcher for a starting gig, but they could certainly do worse at the No. 3 outside corner spot (Brandon Boykin only plays inside). The 6’1/205 Carroll started 12 games for the Dolphins last year, grading out in the middle of PFF’s corner ranks. Mar 13 – 9:51 AM
    Source: Adam Caplan on Twitter

    • GEAGLE

      Really? That’s a quality addition!!!

      • oreofestar

        GEAGLE expectations are lowered that is the best we will get

      • Will

        Curtis Marsh and Roc Carmicheal should have competition too…lol…

        • cliff henny

          to see which is first to hit the bricks?

    • Token

      So bout the same that Fletch makes. They will be competing for a starting spot.

      Now when you consider Cary is gone next year, do they envision Fletch and Carroll as future starters? Still kicking Boykin to the curb.

      • oreofestar

        Cary will be gone my thought is hopefully we get a stud corner in a next years FA or this years draft(sleeper) and either Fletch or Caroll emerge as the other guy

    • cliff henny

      10 bucks it’s a 1 yr deal, with small dead in 2nd yr plus has off-set language where ends up being very little dead if he’s cut.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      he’s 5″11, but still a good move

      • Will

        Team: Philadelphia EaglesAge / DOB: (27) / 1/18/1987Ht / Wt: 6’1′ / 205College: MarylandContract: view contract details Nolan Carrol…

        • Token

          He didnt grow 2 inches from the combine.

          • Will

            Carroll with the Dolphins in 2011No. — Free AgentCornerbackPersonal informationDate of birth: January 18, 1987 (age 27)Place of birth: Jacksonville, FloridaHeight: 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m)Weight: 205 lb (93 kg)Career informationHigh school: Green Cove Springs (FL) ClayCollege: MarylandNFL Draft: 2010 / Round: 5 / Pick: 145Debuted in 2010 for the Miami DolphinsCareer historyMiami Dolphins (2010–2013)Roster status: ActiveCareer NFL statistics as of 2013Tackles135Quarterback sacks1.0Pass deflections23Interceptions5Forced fumbles1Stats at NFL.com

          • Adam

            Doesn’t matter what the team/league posts. Combine measurements are what you go by.

          • Will

            okay…5’11″ on combine….6’1″ in cleats…lol…

  • Will

    No. 33: Nolan Carroll

    Position: Cornerback

    2013 stats: 47 tackles, three interceptions, two sacks

    Analysis: With Pro Bowl cornerback Brent Grimes on the other side, Carroll was picked on often last season. Sometimes Carroll held his own, and other times he allowed big plays. But Carroll did show some improvement in 2013, accumulating a career-high three interceptions and two sacks. He’s just not full-time starter material. per ESPN Blog…

  • Will

    Well at least they looked at Miami player’s still wish they’d sign Chris Clemons Safety of the Fins…

  • Honest_T

    I think it is another excellent off-season so far. By resigning Mac and
    Coop, the Eagles signed 2 of the top 5 free agent WRs, and they added
    Sproles too! Tell me who how the Defense going to defend D-Jax, Mac,
    Coop, Shady, Ertz, Sproles on the field at the same time? We upgraded
    Safety, added depth at CB, improved special teams, and we’re not done
    yet.

    I was not a fan of Byrd’s because he is 28, has problems
    with both feet and you are paying for prior production which may be very
    different from future production. Ward clearly wanted to play in
    Denver and took a fraction of what he could have made to go there.
    Considering that, Jenkins is not a bad signing as he was an upgrade and
    left them cash to chase Ware (which I think they did but lost out to
    Denver) and maybe Revis (notice Carroll was signed shortly after Revis
    made his decision) but he wants to sign 1 year deals to maximize his pay
    and Eagles are looking for more consistency/commitment.

    Other than losing out on a needed edge rusher, which may still happen, I don’t see anything to be upset about.

    • cliff henny

      wait till they draft Evans or Benjamin. Holy F’N Smokes!!!

      • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

        I was thinking the same thing if somehow they pull off Evans (who is scheduled for a pre-draft visit to Philly soon) I’d have a heart attack sir!

        • cliff henny

          not me….all my blood will be coursing to different part of my body

    • Will

      you need two starting Safeties you got Jenkins who is average still need a second safety that’s started would be better….

  • Will

    Still holding out hope we sign another Safety…

    • Honest_T

      Agree, I think the Brids were staying flexible and now that the high end of the market is settled, we will add another vet.

  • PaoliBulldog

    Hoping that the Eagles anticipate that Pryor or Clinton-Dix will be available at 22….

  • Maggie

    I believe it was Bill Davis toying with 3 safety looks, wasn’t it?