Tuesday Open Thread: Free Agency Begins

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Free agency officially opens at 4 p.m. today. We’ll keep you up to date with the latest buzz (and there is a lot of it) as we wait for the starting gun.

8:56: According to Jason La Canfora, TJ Ward is drawing “strong interest” from the Eagles and Lions. Ward is largely considered one of the top safety free agents in this class and will likely be paid quite handsomely. Howie Roseman said that if you are going to hand over big money to a player in free agency, “that person has to be a special person on and off the field.” We’ll see if Ward qualifies.

Around noon Monday, we were told that the Eagles weren’t in on the Ward sweepstakes. Adam Caplan backs that notion up.

-- TM

9:04: Here's an even  bigger name for you: Darrelle Revis. Per Adam Schefter, the Eagles and Patriots are two teams to watch if Tampa releases the standout corner.

Jeff McLane mentioned this morning that the Eagles flirted with the idea of acquiring the cornerback a year ago. Revis, who will be 29 in July, had two interceptions and 11 passes defensed last season for the Bucs.

It's going to be a crazy day. -- TM

9:54: According to Les Bowen of the Daily News, the Eagles are "very interested" in Ravens cornerback Corey Graham. The 28-year-old played for Chip Kelly at New Hampshire and has the ability to play both inside and outside. -SK

11:14: Safety Donte Whitner may be heading to Cleveland.

 11:34: Ian Rapoport reports that the Bucs are receiving interest from "teams with cap space" that may want to trade for Darrelle Revis. He says the Browns are one team to watch.  The Eagles have just under $20 million in cap room, according to the NFL Network. -- TM

11:40: Redskins OLB Rob Jackson has been mentioned as a potential fit in Philly. So far, though, we're told that nothing is cooking with the Eagles. Free agency signings come in waves, and it's possible that teams come in late after tackling the top-tier talent on Day One. But nothing yet from the Birds. -- TM

1:22: Will the Cowboys make a decision soon on DeMarcus Ware?

1:36: A juicy rumor from NBC Washington:

2:42: Safety Stevie Brown is re-signing with the Giants. I thought there was a chance he could be a sleeper for the Eagles. Brown missed last year with an injury but played well in 2012. -- SK

3:23: Joe Person of the Charlotte Observer reported earlier this week that the Eagles and Redskins were showing the most interest in Panthers safety Mike Mitchell. If that's the case, the Eagles might just be the front-runners to land him. -- TM

4:10: Whitner to the Browns is official, per multiple reports. And the money is interesting:

We need to see how much of that is guaranteed, but Byrd is clearly a superior player. --SK

4:14: Schefter also reports that Antoine Bethea is going to San Francisco to replace Whitner. That's another safety free agent off the market. Terms were not released yet. --SK

4:15: The Bears add a young, versatile defensive piece:

4:16: It's official: Ware is out in Dallas.

Ware turns 32 in July. He has length and pass-rush ability. Maybe the Eagles at least make a call and see what the price tag might be?

4:30: The Eagles aren't the only NFC East team showing interest in Corey Graham:

4:33: Walter Thurmond played his college ball at Oregon:

4:34: The latest on Michael Vick:

4:39: The Eagles have announced a three-year deal for puner Donnie Jones, and the team has released safety Patrick Chung.

4:50: It sounds like the Browns might be the favorites for Revis:

4:51: A couple defensive linemen come off the board:

4:53: O'Brien Schofield was one of the mid-level outside linebackers on the market:

5:04: We have a safety signing. The Eagles have inked Malcolm Jenkins:

5:55: Here is our All-22 post on Jenkins.  And some thoughts and background on the Jenkins signing.

5:57: On Ware, from someone who is familiar with the Eagles' decision-makers:

5:58: Byrd, meanwhile, gets a visit from New Orleans - a team that is last in available cap space:

5:59: T.J. Ward finds a home in Denver:

6:00: And maybe the Eagles aren't done yet at safety?

6:28: Looks like Mitchell will not be bringing his talents to South Philadelphia:

 

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  • Armchairgm3

    I’m not concerned that Revis will be Nnamdi 2.0 as some fans are suggesting. But I don’t like this dude (or his agent’s) knack for wanting a new deal seemingly every other year. Could become huge distraction. Plus at 29, how many years of elite CB play does he have left? 2 years? He will command multiyear deal. If I am spending big dollars in the secondary, I’d rather get Byrd. We can live with Williams and Fletcher for another year. Byrd, Fletcher, Williams + safety x (or Wolf). That could work.

    • Chut

      Pretty sure Byrd and Revis are the same age. I’d rather a shut down cb than a safety. Especially considering Byrd is going to ask for close to $9m a year. You could probably get Revis for a 4 year deal at $9-10m per with 1/2 of that guaranteed.

      • Rahkem

        revis is 28 will be 29 at the start of camp , that said im not worried

        • Chut

          Byrd will be 28 in October. Not much difference. Plus Revis is healthy, and Byrd has issues with BOTH of his feet.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            BIG difference between plantar fasciitis and a restructured ACL. You can play with the former with proper treatment (ie; see Byrd last yr).

          • Chut

            This isn’t 1980. Players come back from ACL’s just fine. When was the last player whose play greatly diminished due to an ACL injury? I can name you tons whose careers continued just fine.

          • Eagles4Life

            EXACTLY. Dude already wasn’t a burner and now he has a chronic issue in both feet. And he was 9 mil or more. Enough warning signs for me to stay away. If he comes here, I’ll be praying weekly.

      • Ian Farley

        Revis will be 29 and Byrd 28 by week 1. Revis has been in the league for 8 seasons, Byrd only 6.

      • James Hathaway

        Safety is a bigger impact position currently, and the NFL is going to start shifting to additional safeties on the field. I would much rather the Eagles go out and get Ward + Jenkins to add a box presence, plus extreme versatility/depth vs. dumping too much into a fickle CB like Revis. Sure, he’s a great CB, but no thank you.

        Also, how angry is Tampa for a one year rental of Revis for a 1st rnd. pick?

        • Uncle Wonder

          Tampa cant be angry at anyone but themselves…they signed him to this deal so they would have the flexibility to do exactly what they appear to be doing w/o any LT implications.

          • James Hathaway

            Meant Tampa fans. Last regime set them back, big time. I would have much rather seen them trade that 1st round pick for additional picks vs. a one year rental on a bottom feeding team. I would absolutely love to see Revis resign with the Jets, now that Cromartie and Holmes are gone.

        • JBShakes

          I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to say that safety is a “bigger” impact position. As talented and good as Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas are, they’d have a lot less freedom to make the plays they make if they didn’t know they could basically ignore whichever receiver Richard Sherman is covering. If you’ve got a true “shut-down” corner (and I think Revis can regain that form in the right system, especially given what CK’s sports science stuff could do for his body), it makes all of the players better. And as good as Byrd has been, it’s not like the Bills defenses have set the world on fire in any of the years he’s been there.

          • James Hathaway

            Safety is asked to do more, and with the influx of TE-centric offenses, improved safety play is a must. I’m currently ok with our level of CB. I think we can win with it, as long as we improve the depth. Just my personal opinion.

          • JBShakes

            Safety is asked to do more, but the differential between what a good safety can provide and what a great safety can provide is smaller, in my opinion, to the differential between a good CB and a great CB. A good CB is still going to need safety help from time to time. A GREAT CB frees up all three (or 4) players in the secondary to make more plays.

          • dnabrice

            Bills defenses haven’t been horrible.

          • JBShakes

            Fair enough, they haven’t. Is “not horrible” the standard you want this defense playing at? It’s not like the Bills’ D has been lacking in overall talent lately – if safety is such a crucial position, why hasn’t Byrd’s presence made them better?

            If a guy has first-round athletic talent, sometimes you just have to find the right role for him. Look at Marshawn Lynch.

      • Eagles4Life

        THIS.

    • DEBO 215

      I agree with Revis. I don’t want any parts of the money he will cost. I’m hoping they take a run at TJ Ward. He rated as the third best safety in the NFL last year by PFF and the first best safety against the run. He’s a banger that you have to account for on the back end and he will really solidify the position.

      • guest

        Except that he doesn’t fit Davis’ scheme. And he’s not anywhere close to the 3rd best safety in the NFL. Earl Thomas, Eric Berry, Jairus Byrd, Patrick Chung…there’s plenty of safeties better than him.

        • NJDIII

          Dude….you were fine before you started naming safeties, your right he doesn’t fit the scheme, gonna end up in Denver. Chung doesn’t even belong in the nfl…name any safety Jaquan Jarrett, IMO is better at judging a trajectory of a pass then he is.. Ehh just threw up I’m my mouth thinking about him try and play the pass….

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Revis is a luxury that this team cannot afford to focus on “at the moment”, with one gaping (possibly two) holes in the middle at safety. Fix your Safety position, add some depth then look at whether a Revis or even a DeMarcus Ware can make sense as added bonuses.

  • Tom W

    It’s smokescreen time. Any leaked information from eagles is misinformation or pumping up by agents.

    • Andy124

      So now that there’re reports of our interest in Corey Graham as Geagle predicted so long ago, I guess that means Geagle was wrong about him being a target. :)

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Don’t give Geags the cred, there were a number of “experts” I remember linking Graham with a possible reunite with Chip. Geags head will get bigger than it already is…lol.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        no, Geags thought he’d be a safety target. Turns out, they (and the whole world) saw him as a CB all this time (!!!). So half-right?

        • Andy124

          Nope, I’m sticking with ‘any reported interest is automatically wrong because Howie’s a ninja’. Therefore, Gio has whiffed on this one until further notice.

          • aub32

            Unless Howie is such a ninja that he knows that any information leaked will be assumed as a smokescreen. So instead he has one of his minions leak out his real intentions knowing that no one will believe them.

          • Andy124

            That’s just what he wants you to think.

      • Eagles4Life

        The man did call it lol

  • Joe Thomas

    Well if we dont need an in the box saftey, that means we are looking for a ballhawking, playmaker, who plays centerfield right?

    • UKEagle99

      Hopefully it means that and not a missed tackle machine that takes bad angles.

      • borntosuffer

        Yea, they have had that skill set covered for years now.

      • Joe Thomas

        Yea, we have had more than enough of that kinda play

  • cliff henny

    Today and draft day are great, all my rational thoughts go right out the window. Howie, get me Revis, Byrd, and Jenkins, for under 20m! no idea how, just DO IT!

    • Yes_General

      Exactly !!!!

    • aub32

      If Byrd gets 8-9 and Revis gets 10-12, how does Jenkins fit into this. I would be fine with just Byrd and Revis.

      • Richard Colton

        Ohh thats all? How about Drew Brees to back up Foles?

        • Andy124

          Too slow.

          • Dominik

            We all know about the mobile QB, don’t we?

        • guest

          too small. big people beat up little guys like Brees

      • cliff henny

        well, did say I wasn’t being rational, but…contracts aren’t linear. we use averages, say 8m and 11m, but those arent the cap hits. eagles signed peters and got 2m relief,there’s ways

        • aub32

          O ok. I didn’t know you were speaking about cap hits. I thought you meant salary. Then in that case I can see what you meant.

          • cliff henny

            99% of the time am, but don’t get into the whole cap vs sal discussion.

  • JofreyRice

    So if Ward doesn’t fit because he’s a box safety, and Byrd doesn’t fit because he’s a deep safety, then who the hell do they want? Really wonder if they actully know what a safety is supposed to be doing on the field.

    • Andy124

      Dawkins, the ultimate deep box centerfielding run stuffer.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I think that’s why they’ve been linked to Mitchell. While a one hit wonder so far last yr in CAR, teams like his all around style of play. He’s big but has some speed, can play deep but can also come up in run support, while fast he is still physical.

        • Andy124

          You just painted Mitchell in a positive light… DUCK!!!

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Was just reiterating what teams have said they like about him. They see him as an all around safety in the “mold” of Dawk. Their words…

        • G_WallyHunter

          Ya you just wait now, diggin a hole..

      • Richard Colton

        Weapon “S”

      • JofreyRice

        Yeah, except at 400k a year.

        • Andy124

          Non-guaranteed.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob
      • Andy124

        Winner.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Well…who is they? These are just ppl talking so they can feed their families…The only ones who know the truth arent talking.

    • hrtak

      Chung!

    • Token

      lol yea hopefully its a lot of false info. It does worry me in a way about Revis. Because it shows they still value corner above safety. I think thats old school thinking, kinda surprised Chip sees it like that if its the case. I believe safety has surpassed corner in terms of importance.

      Hell, im not gonna whine if they actually add a legit impact player like Revis tho. Just hope he comes packaged with Byrd.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Exactly. Fix the safety position, add some depth, then you can look to luxury additions like a Revis. I’d even go as far as keeping an eye on DeMarcus Ware this afternoon for a short term deal.

      • Uncle Wonder

        Thats all up to scheme which is more important…a million diff schemes, a million diff points of emphasis.

    • anon

      A hybrid — it’s called a cheap safety

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Per OSHA, you should never skimp on safety.

  • Justin

    I don’t know that we target Revis. Especially after the Asomugha disaster.

    • Joe from Easton

      Different players altogether. Nnamdi played in a crappy division on one side of the field with no one throwing at him because the rest of his team was garbage. Revis played against Brady twice a year.

  • Tom W

    Id rather have verner than Revis 3.5 yrs younger, no drama, cheaper, get him through his prime.

    Just get me the safety and then Howie can do whatever he wants

    • cliff henny

      signing bonus, guaranteed money issues. why i’d send that 2nd 5th or 7th to TB. bring Revis with 1000% understanding he’s looking at closer to 10m, put him on something like a Peters deal.

      • Tom W

        Have fun getting him to agree to anything. Want no parts of that cancer. Screwed jets over twice after he was already getting first rd money and elite player money. No thanks. Talented but not a great fit or leader.

        • cliff henny

          I don’t mind money squabbles. NFL treats players like rented garbage. I’ve never heard of him being a locker room cancer or taking it to the field.
          .
          agree, better have full understanding about his money if he’s being brought in. get him in that 10m and he’s happy (lot of if’s) but it’s do-able and adding ward/byrd cap wise

        • anon

          Screwed the Jets over? Seriously? Do a before and after on their secondary and look at Revis’s impact.

          • aub32

            That’s what happens when personal perception is used to judge a player over what actually happens on the field.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Revis signed for 4 yr 44 mil 14 guaranteed (i know that’s a little hopeful), as james said, I don’t think he’s the right fit anyways, who knows, all speculation yayyyy

    • Eagles4Life

      I honestly don’t think you’re too far off with those numbers. I don’t know that we’ll do it, but he definitely isn’t going to command what his cap number was for the Bucs.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Thankyou, i think its reasonable and team friendly with 7mil a year for 2 years…
        Like I said, a contract like this would require that he takes a little less money to come and improve a D that has a phenomenal O on the other side and has a lot of potential…
        Its hopeful, but so is all the other speculation everybody talks about

        • Eagles4Life

          Exactly. While it’s about the money too, at some point (some) competitors want the opportunity to win.

          • G_WallyHunter

            And although we’ve seen revis cry about money in the past, he’s definitely the type of player who is very competitive and wants to win, maybe he has change of heart… Lets hope
            Getting released today is the first step anyways

      • Joe from Easton

        Is he under contract with the Bucs? If/when they cut him, are they on the hook for any guaranteed dollars?

  • James Hathaway

    No thanks on Revis. Way too much money. Distraction due to contract disputes. Also, seems to be a locker room cancer from what I’ve seen. I’d much rather build through the draft and win a title with homegrown talent.

    That being said, what have we seen that leads us to believe that Wolff can’t be a deep safety with Ward being in the box? Wolff is significantly faster than Byrd. He showed serious growth through the year until he got hurt and was nervous about being a hindrance to the team vs. a help. I’m good with Ward and Wolff. Sign me up for that.

    • anon

      With Revis, you lock down a whole side of a field, it’s like a CB and a safety in one. Plus he’s going to have a chip on his should after they played him in TB.

      It’d be like Dez who? Oh is he playing today, b/c i haven’t heard his name.

      • Tom W

        Again … he was given a great first round pick salary under old CBA and he refused to honor that. they paid the ahole a new deal early, then he turned around and screwed them over again and held out and forced a trade. You don’t want somebody like that in your locker room. regardless of talent ….. could care less of impact of jets … im talking about for our team… he is a cancer … waiting for TO. 2.0

        • Uncle Wonder

          Why characterize him in such a negative light just because he is trying to get every cent he can out of the game for the short time he has to play? It is his prerogative under the CBA to holdout if he wants a new deal, just as it is the team’s prerogative to terminate his deal early if they so feel. Unless he was starting arguments w teammates or purposely playing poorly on the field, what diff does it make?

          • aub32

            Love this comment. Fans think players should play for the love of the game or some sense of loyalty to a contract not paying what the player is worth. Yet when teams cut guys with tens of millions left on the deal, those same fans say “good riddance you bum”.

          • anon

            Seriously — and what happened as soon has he got injured — jets traded him. He went to the Pro Bowl again and gets cut b/c of a coaching change. Obviously he’s the problem.

          • aub32

            What?!?! He is not a problem. The previous regime signed him to a ludicrous contract. He’s putting more strain on the cap than most QBs. Sure the no guaranteed money looked good for TB because no one knew how Revis would return from injury, but it’s 16M against the cap. Also, he’s making so much more than the next highest paid CB. He couldn’t possibly play up to the amount of money. You have to look at the whole picture and not just assume he’s some sort of problem.

  • Eagles4Life

    I might be talking out of my ass right now, but Ward/Johnson + cheap role players or Ward/Revis + cheap role players seems in the realm of possible dollar-wise. Highly unlikely, but still….

    • DEBO 215

      One of the many reasons I’d rather have TJ Ward.

  • JettMartinez

    Just so I can catch up… Eagles are signing TJ Ward, Byrd, Revis, Cromartie, a time-traveling 25 year old Lawrence Taylor, the corpse of Knute Rockne, a robot kicker that can hit 80 yard field goals with pinpoint accuracy, and an animated abomination created by cross-breeding Speedy Gonzalez, the Road Runner, and the Tasmanian Devil as a kick returner. Did I miss any?

    • andrew

      whatever it takes

    • Andy124

      I don’t follow… we already have G.J. Kinne. Are you implying there’s another like him?

    • Uncle Wonder

      You forgot Jabba the Hutt at NT…eats OL for breakfast literally.

      • Andy124

        Sticking with the sci-fi theme, we’ve already got the Borg for our HC. Assimilates the best from all he encounters, Adapts faster than you can, Resistance is Futile.

      • Kevin

        In that case, I want Mace Windu as my MLB.

        • Uncle Wonder

          We already had that…dont you remember Trotter swinging his light saber after he made a play?

        • Richard Colton

          BMF – big Millennium Falcon

    • James Hathaway

      We also are trading Jeff Maehl and a 7th for Julio Jones. Atlanta is rumored to be after Greg Lewis as Jones replacement. If they play the Patriots this year, expect a TD reception for good ol’ G Lew.

    • JBShakes

      You forgot the “Guardenstein Monster” Chip is piecing together using chunks of Gary Zimmerman, Gene Upshaw, Russ Grimm and Forrest Gregg to replace Herremans.

    • NickS1

      You forgot the return of Dawkins.

    • DEBO 215

      I mean, if we’re going THAT route…can we get Jim Johnson back from the pearly gates?

  • anon

    i want to go to REVIS ISLAND!!!!!!! We won’t even need a pass rush — I’m about to go GEAGLE in this bi***. I can’t wait to watch that.

  • Justin W

    There are no smoke screens. Money Walks.

    • Richard Colton

      and Bulls#!t Talks?

  • Rahkem

    Revis is a PA kid , he may want to be closer to home. That could play a factor , really depends what revis wants.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Well here we go, more details supporting my hopeful thinking

      Come on everybody hop on the Revis cruiseship with me WE’RE GOING TO REVIS ISLAND!!!

      • Rahkem

        Yeah you can never discount the home factor , its the reason tom gamble made a lateral move to come to philly from san fran. It helps that we have a team on the rise , that combination of things could make philly very attractive to Revis.

        • G_WallyHunter

          We on the same page here my friend, who knows right?
          All I’m saying is if they signed him to a deal that say, pays him 16mil guaranteed over 2 or 3 years, I wouldnt necessarily be opposed to it, team friendly deal.
          He signed 96 damn million with 0 guaranteed, I know that was him proving himself, but hey he’s familiar with team friendly deals.. different circumstances I get that

          • Rahkem

            I think that is possible , if you get him for anything less than 13 mill a year your getting a bargain. Hes still graded as a top corner and he played in a totally different scheme last year in tampa.

            It really just comes down to how much guarunteed he wants and what kid of options hes gonna give the team after the first 2 years of the contract

  • Yes_General

    why do people keep comparing Revis to Nhmadi. One player only stayed on one side of the field. The other player followed his receiver all over the field. If Howie could convince Revis to come to the Eagles. Plus with our sports science team we would resurrect his career. Throw in TJ ward man this seondary would be elite. I want a superbowl dammit..lol Dont forget the cap will increase again next year and dont forget about Sproles. I can see him a shady causing all kinds of mismatches. UGHH is it 4 oclock yet

    • anon

      We could be really good if they want us to be.

      • Yes_General

        I feel very excited about this upcoming season just gotta keep the faith bro. Our time is coming.

    • Richard Colton

      Can’t see spending the same amount on him that we would for a Safety. Just can’t. Sports Science isn’t magic, you know.

      • Eagles4Life

        It isn’t, but Revis was still a baller last season. If we got Ward for 7 mil and Revis in that 9-11 range, I’d do it. You’d be crazy not to lol.

        • Richard Colton

          What’s the guaranteed money? prorated signing bonus? It all depends on how it’s structured. Tell me we can do it without hamstringing our flexibility next year and I’m for it.

          4:06 PM – Howie Roseman walks to podium with smug look of self satisfaction. Twitter erupts.

    • Nfl All Day

      Sproles release is not official as of yet. As for Revis, IF we are signing a top safety (so tired of typing their namesthat id rather type this long explanation as to which 2 top safeties I’m referring to.) , and Revis wants similar money, Id rather have a passrusher and top safety, than Revis and top safety. Fletcher is as effective as Revis if Eli is laying on his back.

      • anon

        What pass rusher you going to get? Prospects for 34 OLBs are crappy in FA and the draft. Revis island give you a CB and a safety so Wolf or Mtchelll can focus on guarding one guy and the other guy plays in the box.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          If we’re talking about considering Revis, then we’d need to strongly consider Ware. If we add top flight safety as All Day mentioned, the perfect kicker would be to add a pass rusher.

        • Eagles1018

          I up voted this comment. Is there a way to do it more than once?

        • Nfl All Day

          Ware, Hatcher at DE had 11 sacks last year. Michael Johnson had a ton of pressures, Art Jones at end can bring heat, Mike Neal to platoon with Barwin and Trent. Lots of options.Any of those above are good tho.

          • aub32

            Neither Hatcher or Ware are FAs. MJ is off the table now. I’d rather have elite secondary players than rotational guys like Neal or Jones.

      • Yes_General

        I agree but when those days come when the pass rush isnt there, its would be nicec to know we have some lock down specialist in the secondary who can create turnovers by themselves. I want a Legion of Green..lol

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Add Byrd…secondary locked down, not just one side, plus TO monster. Pass rush already improves by default. Add say a Ware and argument can be made all day long for which side of the ball we’re better. Plus no need to reach this year in draft.

  • Joe Thomas

    Graham gotta be better than Roc Carmichael

    • Jerry Pomroy

      You could still keep Roc as depth. Last yr we carried too many safeties. They’ll probably trim the safety # down to 4 & carry 5 CBs this year to even out cost/position if they make a big splash at safety.

      • Joe Thomas

        Yea he looks better as the 5th Cb.

  • Ertz Donut

    Byrd will be an Eagle. Byrd will have 15 INT’s. We will always be way ahead. RGME will throw 3 to the Byrd. Eli will throw him 4. Romo 5. Byrd Byrd

  • Richard Colton

    The Great Revis Smokescreen of ’14. A Howie Roseman production.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Directed by Tom Gamble?

      • Richard Colton

        Joe Banner – best boy grip

    • cliff henny

      yeah, probably….but something is brewing. I don’t NEED Revis…we do need much better safety play.

    • Joe from Easton

      Howie is up to something if he leaked this and it ain’t Revis. He’s letting other teams think we’re out of the “Byrd sweepstakes” so they feel less need to throw bigger numbers at him in order to outbid a winner. Then once Byrd has seen what people think he’s worth Howie will throw a deal at him that’s comparable, but for a better team. Hope he bites.

  • aub32

    I’m sorry, but did I miss when elite safety became more important than elite CB? If that’s the case, then why aren’t S making as much as CBs? Experts are saying Byrd, who is a top 5 safety is ridiculous by asking for 9M per. Yet didn’t Shields not even a top 10 CB, just get that? I think some of you have let our safety drought taint your opinion of how the game is played. A top CB can eliminate a teams best WR. Do some of you realize exactly how valuable that is? Look at the top teams we will have to face. Imagine facing SF without having to worry about Crabtree. How about the Packers with Nelson? ARZ without Fitz anyone? Don’t get me wrong. I want Byrd more than any other player in FA. That’s because we can live with our current CBs but not with our current safeties. However, the idea that a top safety is better than a top CB is silly and you need only to look at the money to realize that.

    • Richard Colton

      I predict a Token/Aub fight in 3…2…1

      But yes, the franchise number is higher for CB than S. Some would argue that number reflects old school NFL thinking and that the Safety position has become more valuable. Personally, I subscribe to the old school. NFL teams are built up the sides: DE/OLB, CB, OT.

      • Uncle Wonder

        It seems like its only been the past 10 yrs tht CB became known as a ‘premium’ position across the board so I wouldnt call it old school. Of course deion got paid but tht wasnt the norm. I cant imagine why anyone would think S is more important than CB…if the S does his job, it wont really translate to more wins if the rest of the D is bad…If the CB does his job on a bad team at least you only have to defend 1/2 – 3/4 of the field.

    • DEBO 215

      A great safety can cover up average CB play when you have to account for him. You still need to have at least one good CB, but can you name one CB on the Seahawks not named Richard Sherman? They lost Brandon Browner and didn’t miss a beat because Cam Chancellor and Earl Thomas are studs. I agree that they need a CB but the CB’s they have are at least average. The Safety play last year was just awful. Safety and NT are their most glaring weaknesses IMO.

      • aub32

        Actually I can. Sherman is of course the most pubbed, but prior to the SB I heard many players and pundits saying Walter Thurmond (nickel corner) would make all the difference. That entire secondary is stacked. So I think it’s a bad example. A great corner allows the entire defense to focus on the number 2 option. An average safety can focus on playing in the box or just helping out the #2 CB who happens to be covering the #2 WR.

        • DEBO 215

          That depends on the coverage scheme and the playcall too. Thurmond is good but I don’t see him being any better than Brandon Boykin. I do agree though that having a lock down CB that just follows their #1 around all day does take a lot of pressure off of the rest of the defense and allows them to focus on other aspects.

          • guest

            you obviously haven’t watched much of Thurmond, since you consider him to be a no-name in your initial post. The reason they didn’t miss a beat with Browner out is because Thurmond would start on most teams. Having a CB as good as Thurmond allowed the safeties to continue to do what they do…Thomas could sit back and play centerfield and Kam could come up in the box and play the run.

            Earl Thomas missed 14 tackles last year (everyone’s killing Mitchell for missing 18). They still won the Super Bowl.

            Look at all the titles Brian Dawkins won. He’s my favorite player ever, but safety is the least important position on defense.

          • DEBO 215

            I’ve seen a good deal of him. He’s a good complimentary player. You really think he’s better than Boykin? I don’t. All I’m saying is great safety play can mask average CB play if you don’t have elite corners…

          • aub32

            Though elite corners don’t need help and allow mediocre safeties to double team #2 WRs.

    • cliff henny

      for the right price, let’s get both! there’s no law against putting multiple talented players on the field. what we shouldn’t except is mid level corners and bad safeties

      • Eagles4Life

        All aboard the Ward & Revis bandwagon.

        • cliff henny

          hells yeah! we’ll be rational tomorrow!

    • Token

      Hard to change “common knowledge” thinking. They will come around eventually.

      • aub32

        Token it’s simple math.

        Option 1: great CB/ mediocre S
        -
        The CB can take out the team’s #1 WR. The mediocre S can then double the team’s #2 WR.

        Option 2: great S/ mediocre CB
        -
        The mediocre CB will struggle against the team’s #1 WR and will require help from the great S. Meanwhile our other CB is left on an island potentially at a disadvantage. That’s not even mentioning if the great S has to help out on the TE. Then the mediocre CB is left to go against the #1 WR with little to no help.

        I don’t see what’s so hard to understand.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          there are other offensive weapons other than WR. Great CB does nothing against Gronk, Graham, etc. TE is also undervalued on offense. Those 2 positions are changing faster than any other, in terms of scope of skillset and demand.

          • aub32

            How many teams have a TE that’s the #1 receiver? Pats and Saints. We play neither this year. TEs are becoming better weapons, but let me know when there are a dozen TEs that play to the level of Dez, Megatron, Fitz, Green, Jones, the twin towers in CHI, Thomas…..need I go on?

          • Eagles4Life

            No, I think that about covers it.

          • Eagles4Life

            Talib did pretty well on Jimmy. And I wouldn’t even call him great.

        • Token

          And in 1985 that would be correct thinking.

  • morgan c

    Revis. Please. This seems like a no-brainer to me. Dude will not garner a huge long-term contract anymore, so Eagles should strike. I would be totally fine offering him a 1 or 2 year deal for A LOT of money. He is still good. 75% Revis would be the best CB we’ve had in 20 years. Then go after one of the solid mid-tier safeties (mitchell, clemons, ihedigbo) if you don’t want to double splurge on Byrd.
    Let me dream though:
    Sign Revis to big money SHORT term incentive laden deal. Sign Byrd for 3 years 28 million or something like that. Trade for Jordan in the draft. Pick up Lamar Woodley on the cheap for depth.
    Look out.

    • DEBO 215

      I’d be a big fan of signing Woodley to an incentive laden, 1 or 2 year deal. He’d be a great situational guy. I don’t think he’s a 3 down OLB anymore, but as a long yardage situational pass rusher, he’d be a nightmare.

      • Nfl All Day

        Woodley in platoon would be a nice pickup. He’s had trouble playing a full season, but in a rotation at olb? I like it.

        • DEBO 215

          Absolutely. He can play either side and would be great to rotate in and out for Barwin or Cole. Definitely better suited for the 3-4 than Brandon Graham.

      • GEAGLE

        Sounding like he will reunite with Ray Horton in Tennessee…if we could get ware or peppers to take a situationa. Pass rush role like Dwight Freeney took last year, I’d gladly add ether to try and win a Lombardi these next two years..

        • DEBO 215

          Ware would be an ideal fit in our 3-4.

          • cliff henny

            no word yet. trolling couple of Dallas sites. they want in on Revis, so that’s funny to read at least

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Numbers say DAL is over cap, but reports are that all teams are now in cap compliance. I’d take Ware for the simple fact that it helps us and weakens DAL.

          • cliff henny

            they’re under by like 167k, lol. yup, time to spend big JJ

          • Joe from Easton

            They can’t sign a camp body for that number and they still have draft picks to pay. LOL

          • cliff henny

            plan isto june1st miles Austin, that should get them enough. plus add 6mdead to ’15. that’s the best part about following Dallas as an eagles fan, there’s nothing they can do that doesn’t somehow have a negative impact in future…cracks me up

          • Joe from Easton

            I love it. I actually have Dallas fan friends (sad I know) that think Jerry is a mastermind at the cap. “He manages to take care of it every year, don’t be mad that he spends money and the Eagles don’t”… Their logic is almost as stupid as their explanation as to how they’re a Dallas fan that has lived their entire lives 55 miles northwest of Philadelphia.

          • cliff henny

            I could never be friends with him. i’m really awful about that. true story, once broke up with a girl because she was cowboy fan. was out living in LA, she was from Montana or something, road horses as a kid…idfk, was just annoyed, so I told her to hit the bricks

          • Joe from Easton

            Haha, well played. No way in hell I could date a fan of that wretched organization. My fiancee’ wasn’t much of a football fan when we met, so she used to joke about being a Tony Romo fan. I let her know the gravity of that immediately. Now she wears Eagles shirts and makes massive amounts of food for me on Sundays. That dirty word is not uttered in my house anymore.

          • Joe from Easton

            She started to pretend to be interested in the games a few years back. Now she’s almost a real fan. She was angry and threw something during the New Orleans game. I shed a tear of joy.

          • cliff henny

            does she have a sister?!

          • Joe from Easton

            Haha, yea… sister lives in Florida. Very different than her though, lol.

          • aub32

            Nice!

          • Joe from Easton

            I couldn’t have been prouder Aub. The look of pain on her face was visible when the clock struck 0:00. She’s ready to take the next step this year and start spewing vulgarities while destroying in home items along with me during games. I’m so excited.

          • aub32

            I know the feeling. I once dated a girl from Puerto rico who had no idea of what football was. I remember once when she when was shouting at Shady to run in Spanish and would wince and cover her eyes every time Vick took a big hit.

          • Joe from Easton

            What a coincidence! My fiancee’ is puerto rican, cuban, and columbian. She mumbled some Spanish during the New Orleans game. I think she just said “shit” when we made a bad play, but I was pretty hot under the collar about it.

          • aub32

            Hahaha

          • cliff henny

            my father is half a Cowboy fan because he served in Navy at same time as Staubach, and eagles really sucked. I had cowboy jersey until I was 7 or 8 (xmas of ’78 I believe I decided eagles were my team). every once in awhile i’ll stubble across a kid pick of me in cowboy gear, it gets destroyed asap

          • Joe from Easton

            I have a friend who get’s jersey’s on the cheap. I needed to try one on in order to get my size option down. All he had was a DWare jersey. I tried it on and they tried to snap a pic of me wearing it. I tore it off so fast that I ripped it clean between the 9 and 4. He told me I had to pay for it. I laughed at him and told him he should have known the potential ramifications of such a stunt. I later went home and went full ace ventura in the shower.

          • aub32

            These stories are hilarious and a nice distraction. Keep em coming.

          • Joe from Easton

            haha, whatever passes the time…

            She bought me a complete history of the Philadelphia Eagles DVD set for Christmas a few years back (the Xmas during the 4-12 campaign). I looked at it and saw that it was made right after our ’04 Super Bowl run. I’ve yet to watch it because I’m sure it’s going to end with the Patriots loss and talk about the “bright future” of the Eagles. I promised her that once I believe the Eagles will contend again then I’ll watch it.

            I think it’s almost time.

          • aub32

            I hope so too my dude. Ugh the future looked so bright back then. My father still talks about how McNabb and T.O. could hold so many records and be side by side in the HOF if only they could’ve gotten along.

          • Joe from Easton

            That year was incredible. First game together they hit the long ball and I was in heaven for the next 18 or 19 weeks. My god, they looked unstoppable.

          • aub32

            All the years of fans clamoring to get McNabb a legit receiver and it finally happened. Unstoppable was the only way to put it. Though it was too good to last. Sigh. Here’s hoping that Kelly can put together an offense even more dominant with the multitude of weapons we now have. Man, I hope Foles works out.

          • Joe from Easton

            I was on the Foles wagon since preseason of his rookie year. Obviously I’m not saying I saw last season happening, but I was damned sure that I liked what I saw. He’s got those intangibles about him; the sort of stuff you can’t really teach. It’s hard to even verbalize what I mean, but the long and short of it is that I believe he’s got what it takes.

            Now it’s a matter of whether or not he’s put in a position to succeed and excel.

          • aub32

            I’m coming around on him. I like the guy. I just hope he’s more Brees than Dalton. I can’t wait to see what he does with those weapons. Next year will leave no doubt after he faces off against the best in the west.

          • Joe from Easton

            I already see more Brees than Dalton in him. Maybe it’s only a coincidence that they attended the same high school and he broke Brees’ records. Just think of it this way… he had one of the best statistical seasons in history without a weapon like AJ Green and a defense that gives him the ball like Dalton has had. He utilizes the head fake, pump fake, and run fake a lot like Brees. Guy was in year two fooling safety’s left and right. He’s humble and pretty wise when it comes to the game. Also, he comes from money so I don’t see him becoming a diva. He seems to have a pretty good foundation in faith too, for what that’s worth.

          • aub32

            I am not disputing any of that. I loved some of the fakes he had. My one worry is how he plays in big games. After the Chicago game I thought he would murder Dallas. He wasn’t bad, but he definitely unperformed. He also underperformed against the Saints. I am not saying that’s who he is. I really do like the kid. I just need to see him when a big game while having one of his better games at least once.

          • Joe from Easton

            A valid concern/desire. I think he can come through. He left the field with the lead against NO and beating Dallas is never usually pretty; division game. I won’t say your concern is moot though.

          • Andy124

            I’m just gonna pretend I didn’t read this.

          • Joe from Easton

            This is a GREAT story. An eight year old kid going against the family grain to become one of our own. This is an inspiration to all of us.

          • Andy124

            A real Eagle’s fan would have burned that jersey by his 3rd birthday. :) Time for @cliff_henny:disqus to get the #7 treatment.

          • Joe from Easton

            You can’t! Then who would be our resident cap guru? Colton is too drunk half the time, GEAGLE can’t be good at yet another thing or his head could explode, and Rob’s only concern is singing Jason Kelce until Thor returns to take both of them back to Asgard.

          • Andy124

            All part of my master plan to steal his specialty.

          • Neanderthal

            As much as I hate the Cowboyz, I think Ware would be an awesome 1-2 yr addition

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahahah they want Revis? Lol too funny.,,,they would have to cut the entire secondary to pay for him

          • cliff henny

            about half the posters are knowledgable, but the other half make a dutch/foles convo look sane.

          • Joe from Easton

            send me a link to this site. I need a good laugh so my sphincter can relax. 4:00 pm can’t come soon enough.

          • cliff henny

            bloggingtheboys.com on sbnation is easiest. have bleedinggreennation.com for eagles. from there they have links to sites lke csnphilly but for dallas…1 stop shopping.

      • guest

        He was terrible last year. Just terrible. And his teammates all talked about how he doesn’t put in the work. Count him out. Definitely not the type of character Chip wants. And his stats have gone down each of the last three years. A player on the sharp decline. No thanks.

    • Joe from Easton

      Revis is better than any corner that’s ever played for the Eagles, but a 75% Revis is not. Pay some respect to Vincent, Taylor, and Sheldon.

      • DEBO 215

        Eric Allen disagrees.

        • Joe from Easton

          Close call, I’d take Revis in his prime though.

          • Andy124

            You’re not biased enough.

          • Joe from Easton

            Guess not. It’s hard for me to look passed the fact that in his prime Revis was/is a hall of fame caliber player. Possibly one of the best to play CB.

          • Andy124

            Yeah but, Eric Allen.

          • Joe from Easton

            Lol, touche` sir.

          • Richard Colton

            Eric Allen returns an interception 95 yards for a TD in ’91 and hands the ball to Randall Cunningham, on crutches in the endzone. Meanwhile, in South Jersey, an 11 year old boy starts to believe. Eric Allen all day.

          • Ark87

            Classic John madden: “Catching the ball was great it was behind him then watch all these moves and spins he does, this is all Eric Allen…yeah I mean he’s running out of plays running and jumping his legs are going up and down…and he just runs away from everyone”

            People think I’m crazy at work right now.

          • DEBO 215

            Love it. I remember watching that. That gave them the lead in that game late in the 4th quarter…

          • Joe from Easton

            The real highlight is Bubby Brister.

          • Ark87

            you didn’t say in his prime, you said 75%. The gap between all time great, elite, and good isn’t as big as people think. Lose a step, the fall off is steep.

          • Joe from Easton

            I meant I’d take Revis in his prime over Eric Allen in his prime. Re-read, sir.

          • Ark87

            i stand corrected, or edited as it were, mistook your comment with the guy above you, ended up just echoing your reply, my bad.

          • Joe from Easton

            no worries

          • DEBO 215

            Not me. Allen was a stud for a long time in the NFL…Was even still good on the Raiders into his later years. Allen was the truth.

          • Joe from Easton

            I don’t disagree at all. Like we’ve said, the diff between elite and all time great isn’t far off.

          • NJDIII

            Troys numbers as well

            Tackles 749
            Quarterback sacks 5.5
            Interceptions 47
            Stats at NFL.com

      • Ark87

        I think that’s a bit harsh. We’ve been extremely fortunate in the CB department until the last 5 or so years. I’d take Sheldon Brown, Lito Sheppard, Bobby Taylor, Troy Vincent, and even Asante Samuel in their prime over a declining 75% Revis.

        We simply can’t talk about the CB position like we do safety.

      • guest

        75% Revis is better than Bobby Taylor and Sheldon Brown.

        Nice to see you’ve only been an Eagles fan for 15 years. There have been a bunch of CBs better than Taylor and Brown.

        • Joe from Easton

          Well considering I’m 26 years old I’d say that 15 years of solid fandom isn’t bad. If you want to lord over someone, sign in instead of being the a$$hole guest.

          And no, a 75% revis is a good player. Taylor and Sheldon were top tier at their position in their prime. Please let me be clear, I’d take a 90% or prime revis over any corner that’s ever played in philly with the exception of Nnamdi of course. :)

          • cliff henny

            get’em Joe!

          • Joe from Easton

            I couldn’t help it. Was Mr. Guest insinuating that if I were a real fan that I’d invent a time machine and go watch us beat Lombardi in 1960? Or maybe I should go check out the back to back ships from the late 40′s?

          • Andy124

            Just insinuating that you’re young I believe. Which is a pretty bad thing to be if you ask me. Now get off my lawn ya damn kids!

        • morgan c

          Yes. I’m 28. So, ya…??

          And read the original comment dimwit, I said “last 20 years.” Disagree if you want, but at least respond to what was said.

      • morgan c

        I said in the last 20 years, and I think 75% Revis is as good, if not better, than all of them. DR is currently still one of the best 2 CBs in the league. The same could never be said for Brown or Taylor (Taylor in 2002 maybe). MAYBE Vincent belongs in that discussion. Maybe. But he overlapped with Sanders. Just saying Revis would be our best CB in a long time.

      • NJDIII

        Troy was equal to Revis, Allen was better.
        Revis stats
        Tackles 344
        Quarterback sacks 2.0
        Interceptions 21
        Forced Fumbles 5
        INT return yards 367
        Passes defensed 105
        Stats at NFL.com

        Allen’s stats
        Interceptions 54
        INT yards 826
        Touchdowns 8
        Stats at NFL.com

  • Jerry Pomroy

    MJ deal with CIN is believed to be avg $8.5M/yr w/ $24M guaranteed. Thoughts??

    • cliff henny

      Michael Johnson – fair … Michael Jenkins WTF?!

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Johnson

        • cliff henny

          these numbers are going to get bigger and bigger. caps going up 10m minimum per year thru rest of decade.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I guess my point is…Anyone upset that we bowed out after seeing those numbers?

          • DEBO 215

            Nope. Not worth it.

          • cliff henny

            depends who they draft

    • GEAGLE

      I would love to see us pay that…I talked about how much I wanted Everson,but he is unproven as a starter and he got 20mil in GUARENTEES…I would have payed that all day for MJ…if those are the real numbers I’ll be pissed because we should have added him at those figures

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Update…5yrs, $43.75M, $24M guaranteed.

        So closer to $8M/yr & basically 3yr deal.

        • cliff henny

          whoa, that man got paid.

          • GEAGLE

            We should have paid that man…24mil for him or 20mil GUARENTEED for Everson who is not a proven starter? HArdy is getting like 12mil for one year….24 in Guarentees for a pass rusher in this inflated market, IMO we should have pulled the. Trigger

          • cliff henny

            24m G means he’s 3 down impact play from the jump. wouldn’t mind paying true 3-4 olb that, but not a hybrid guy. still have to draft olb early. he looks really good, rather have exact fit for that type of scratch.

          • GEAGLE

            Huh? I would NOT want to take him off the field..dude is elite against the run like Cole and pressured QBs 61 times last year even his sacks were down, year before he had good sack numbers….he is as much of a 3down OLB as we could hope to find

        • GEAGLE

          We should have payed that and June 1st Cole…only way we shouldn’t have done that, is if talks with Miami and Dion are looking promising

          • Jerry Pomroy

            And Howie bowed out early. MJ must’ve wanted Tampa so bad that other teams were gonna have to overpay that significantly. Otherwise, I don’t get it.

          • GEAGLE

            Weird right? Guys like Hardy are getting 12m for me year, and we bowed out so early from the Chip Kelly OLB prototype? Weird lol Howie must need that money for Ward and Byrd ;)

  • Corey Dawson

    I want a t-shirt that on the front has “Eagles Fans Contracting” and on the back “Safety is our #1 Concern!”

  • GEAGLE

    Gave Yous Corey Graham in November. Nice of the media to connect the dots and finally catch up :)

    Prediction time F’ers!! While most of you already know mine, I’d be curious to see what everyone thinks Howie will do(not what Yous WANT Howie to do). I believe Revis is a smoke screen for something big…for the 15th time I believe Howie will sign:
    Malcom Jenkins
    Corey Graham
    Chris Cook
    TJ Ward
    (That’s 4 new members of our Secondary and Some ST upgrades)

    Alex Carrington…if we miss out on him, Al woods will be the DL we sign (Mount Cody may be a Gaethers type camp body)
    ..
    Bruce Campbell (props to whoever it was that put me on to him)
    ..
    Donnie Jones

    Jamarri Lattimore, ILB depth. ST play cheap under 1mil per

    I think we will pass on Neal..I begged us to sign Obrien Schofield last year when he landed on waivers 3 different times, so how can I expect them to bid on him now? Think we pass on OLB, because none are the edge rushers we lack, think we will try to get Dion, and we wil
    Def Draft one..but maybe, slight maybe, in June we can see us at a stop gap veteran as a Nickle pas rusher like Ware.woodly or peppers…But they would have to sign a cheap Freeny type contract and be ok with situational pass rush role. So I would call it a long shot..

    Curious to see who you all are expecting us to sign today…Golden Tate? And Anthony Barr as our punt returner? Hahaha let me stop

    • George

      Howies about to put on a clinic… and to think rotoworld has him #13 in their gm rankings:

      13. Howie Roseman – Eagles

      You could argue this is too high for one of the architects of the most disastrous free-agent class in recent memory. Roseman’s role in Philly’s ill-fated “Dream Team” will be a stain he wears until he trades in his suits for pleated-retirement khakis. But he couldn’t have bought a better detergent than Chip Kelly. Roseman replaced a weary Andy Reid with arguably the brightest offensive mind of a generation, and has put his team one step ahead of an ever-changing NFL as a result. As an evaluator and player procurer, Roseman leaves much to be desired. But Kelly provides an easy-to-follow blueprint, lessening the room for error. The degree to which Roseman is tied to his head coach is highly unusual for a modern GM. Thankfully, he’s chosen the right one — the kind that should make him look like a genius in due time.

      • GEAGLE

        Totally AGREE!!! This Revis intell wouldn’t be being reported by everyone if Howie wasn’t cooking up something SERIOUS!!!

        • George

          I’m so excited. I’m off today, si i’m gonna go to the gym, blow off some smoke, and i’ll hopefully come home to the Byrdman or TJ… fingers crossed

          • GEAGLE

            Took a half a day at work, but now I’m worried I won’t be at a computer at 4pm smh…and I got a ridiculous dog obedient school for my pups from 7-8pm tonight….so pissed

          • George

            as long as you’ve got access to twitter, and this site on your phone, you’ll be fine. people here are usually pretty plugged in. And apparently oreostar SAW TJ WARD! If hes bsing, ill be pissed

          • cliff henny

            he took a fist full of bath salts to see him

          • GEAGLE

            I’m friggin suspended from twitter for no reason….

          • George

            #thestruggle

          • cliff henny

            sure,,,no reason at all

          • GEAGLE

            Dude…I’m dead serious. Normally, I’m doing something that I know I will be banned of suspended for and I make the decision to do it anyway…I swear I can’t tell you what I did wrong? WTF I was having a playful convo with Kyle long! It wasn’t a shit talking, hateful back and fourth at all. It’s not like I was badgering Kyle, he was answering all my tweets!and I was just trying to playful recruit him. You think I was talking crap to someone I’m trying to recruit? Lol it’s not my problem that a hundred people from Chicago that I don’t even know got pissed off..wtf…
            ..
            The worst thing I sad to Kyle honestly was “stop lying.
            Everyone knows you wear midnight green pajamas with the footsie’s attached when Lamce Briggs isn’t around”… It wasn’t a hateful convo. At first he was laughing, smiling. Playing along…then when all of Chicago started crying like it was the end of the world, he changed his tune and hit me with “#BEARdown, go home you are drunk”… I was talling him how good he would look blocking for FOles between Kelce and Lane and he was laughing…how the hell do I deserve to be suspended on the best day of the year for twitter over that?

          • cliff henny

            create a new account.

          • GEAGLE

            Noooooo!!L I need that account! I didn’t friggin do anything, how is it my problem that Chicago fans don’t like the convo I was having with one of it’s athletes…they can’t claim I was badgering someone famous because he answered all my tweets, and half of them I was answering him…wtf I been suspended since true detective on Sunday night. ENOUGH!!! Unblock me damn it!! Btw, someone go on twitter and tell me what Kapadia was talking about in the recent tweet where he mentioned me….I can see his tweet! but I can’t see the previous ones so I have no idea what’s being discussed??just curious

          • Richard Colton

            Threatening to burn down Chicago, Hazel O’leary style is a reason. Not a good one. But a reason.

    • Andy124

      Saved for posterity. What kind of batting average would you be proud of here? :)

      • GEAGLE

        Most of those players are cheap..
        ..
        Jenkins 4mil let
        ..
        Corey 2yrs 3mil
        ..
        Cooks? Don’t know what the going rate is for a young super talents Bust.. Cliff?
        ..
        Carrington about 3mil per, 4 tops..

        Lattimore would be lucky to get 1mil per
        ..
        Bruce should get a Barbre deal…
        ..
        Ward could be like 6.5-7mil?

        • GEAGLE

          This may me up cheaper then the 30mil in Guarentees we handed out last year

    • cliff henny

      i’m happy w/ this…and still want Revis!

      • GEAGLE

        If they sign all that. AND Revis…I will talk so much crap to every none eagles fan it won’t even be funny

        • G_WallyHunter

          Didn’t you learn not to do that until the whistles blow? I sure did in 2011

          • GEAGLE

            Can’t help myself…you should see what I do to fans of other teams who wear their team Logos when I run into them in like Rome or London…lol start flapping eagles wings at them, siinging fly eagles fly lol

        • cliff henny

          i’d be on 169th profile in 15 minutes on bloggingtheboys.com

    • DEBO 215

      I’m not making any predictions but Ward and Carrington would be awesome.

    • Neanderthal

      Antoine Bethea
      Mike Mitchell
      Paul Soliari
      Jon Asamoah
      Dan Carpenter

      Ware if he gets cut

  • Javi Echie

    Please please give us Darelle Revis and Malcom Jenkins that would absolutely solidify the secondary for at the least the next two years. Then we will not be in dire need to draft a corner this year early. Two cover guys in the secondary would be so ideal then I can definitely live with Wolff as the strong safety.

  • oreofestar

    I saw T.J Ward!

    • cliff henny

      having visions?

    • George

      You serious??? This is wonderful

    • DEBO 215

      Where? What?

    • Ark87

      Pic or it didn’t happen!

    • Joe Thomas

      Dont play with our emotions, not today

      • oreofestar

        I meant I saw him in the article, that is a step in the right direction

    • Jerry Pomroy

      TJ Maxx is not the same as TJ Ward…

      • oreofestar

        OH…Sorry

  • Ark87

    I don’t support the idea of paying Revis mega bucks. As he is aging, with a pretty significant injury in his recent history, and this whole experience with NA a few years back…that being said, I’d probably geek out pretty hard if I saw Revis at a presser wearing an Eagles cap, ermergerd ermergerd ermergerd! Suddenly sports science would be my religion and Revis will be much better than last year because it takes 2 years to fully get over an ACL tear and all sorts of grasping for rationalizations….but right now, while level-headed, I say don’t do it!

  • Jerry Pomroy
    • cliff henny

      yeah, but JJ could be a dick and string him along. miss out on all the money. my guess is he’ll play for what ends up about 10m in Dallas

      • Jerry Pomroy

        But if not, do you look to replace Cole with Ware (better fit in 3-4), as your short term ROLB until you groom someone else? Plus at that number you mentioned ($10M), isn’t that cheaper than Cole too?

        • cliff henny

          no, Coles only 6.6m this yr. ’15 he’s 11+m. not sure spending 4m money on stop gap improvements is necessary, rather have rookie just play better.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            But wagering on even getting a quality rookie where we select in rds 1 & 2 is not ideal situation.

          • cliff henny

            really…they better! putting all my eggs in that basket

          • Jerry Pomroy

            They’ll either need to move up in 1st for Barr, or back to early 2nd for uncontested selection of next tier (M Smith please).

          • cliff henny

            think we’ll be happy with draft. looks like it lays out nicely for Eags

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Eagles sit at $19.9M in cap space currently per NFLN data analysts.

    • cliff henny

      rather go with Eaglescap.com and 24.2m, I like that number better

      • Jerry Pomroy

        So would I, but which is current and accurate?

        • cliff henny

          eaglescap and overthecap are about same. otc has 24.9m, even better

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Interest gained over past few days…lol.

        • PaoliBulldog

          Eaglescap.com is not being updated between March 6 and March 12 because the owner is out of the country. He will provide updates via his Twitter feed (@eaglessalarycap), though.

    • JofreyRice

      whew, gonna be a tight christmas this year for Jeffery Thomas Laurie!

  • PaoliBulldog

    The fact that Dolphins let Clemons walk and signed Delmas makes me wonder about Clemons.

    • GEAGLE

      nothing to wonder, he sucks and we won’t even consider him

      • oreofestar

        Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, Ward, Byrd, Byrd , Byrd, Ward, Byrd, Ward,Byrd,Ward, Not Mitchell, Byrd *whistles*

  • Bird of Prey

    Adam Schefter just reported the Eagles are interested in Bo Bo, a Silver Back Gorilla about to be released from the San Diego zoo to back up Cole at RTOLB. His off the field problems with China shops and making people uncomfortable about mentioning obvious issues in fear of setting him off. But the on field bonus of no offensive player will carry the ball his way in fear of having his head ripped from his body may out weigh the off field issues. It’s rumored that Chicago is interested as well to replace Brian Urlacher. More news at 4:00!

    • Average__Joseph

      Bo Bo ends up with the Raiders…bank on it.

      Just An Average Joseph

      • A Roy

        I guess he becomes a Fay Wray-der.

        • Average__Joseph

          OMG

  • GEAGLE

    OMG I’m screwed…worthLES Bowan is the one reporting about Corey Graham? Ugh that practically ensures I was wrong and he won’t sign here..smh

    • oreofestar

      Byrd Byrd Ward Ward please please Howie I am dying!

  • cliff henny

    fellows just joined 21st century, joined twitter. said i’d never do it, but this revis byrd ward stuff has cracked me.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Hahaha…I said same about a little over a year ago. My wife has Facebook, I have Twitter.

      • cliff henny

        yeah, already annoyed with it. idont feel like chasing down handles. so farfollowing Sheil…and only Sheil.

        • TheCatalyst

          Follow Tim too :p

        • Jerry Pomroy

          It’s actually the fastest way to receive info. Especially if you have a solid list you follow.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I was amazed at how fast the info flew in in regards to Chip last yr that I became hooked. I’m not a very patient individual…lol.

        • peteike

          ya I got on board a little less than a year ago. Just follow people, pickup comedians, politicians, musicians and sports guys. Im quickly realizing you cant follow too many, just dump em all in. You end up just scrolling through everyones posts and for the most part, people dont have anything interesting to say except for a nugget here or there. Stephen Colbert is funny, Jim Gaffigan is okay. Not as much interesting stuff as youd think.

    • JofreyRice

      whats your handle dog?

      • cliff henny

        clif henny

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      same ,a few months back.
      are you @drunkencapwizard? :)

      • JofreyRice

        i’m on a following spree, but I don’ think they call you rob on twitter.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          bmorerobbie
          can’t say i do much, except retweet some goofy players and bmore things

    • NickS1

      I’ve had one that I never use. Two nights ago I followed Byrd and Chung to find out what’s good w/ that cell # exchange, try to see if it lead to more. I refuse to get it on my phone though.

  • GEAGLE

    Herm Edwards just basically laid out why eagles won’t get Revis…you have to orchestrate your entire secondary, allow him to move around, line up In slot some…he has to go to a team that will allow him to have the secondary tailored around him….that not not…we have Cary on one said! Brad on the other! boy king in slot…don’t believe we plan on moving our corners around chasing certain WRs..
    .
    Herm says he expects Revis to get on the first plane to San Fran

    • oreofestar

      Geagle I am gonna be out from 3 to like 5:30 so I will miss the first wave hopefully we get a safety named Byrd or Ward

      • George

        that sucks…what takes you from this wonderful day?

        • oreofestar

          School gonna take a long drive from campus and go home today

          • George

            where do you go?

          • oreofestar

            to school? Seton Hall

  • TheCatalyst

    By all means please address the defense, I just want Donnie Longball signed to a lifetime contract.

  • oreofestar

    Byrd 5 years $44mil 22 guaranteed or Ward 5 year 35mil 17 guaranteed, Howie choose one these are you only options

    • cliff henny

      cause option C, well, you don’t what to know what option C is…it’s not nice

      • oreofestar

        C option is suicide

        • MoreViolence

          C for Cyanide.

  • peteike

    Just so everyone knows, come 4pm nothing will happen. Youll hear about 2 or 3 lower end signings and then just wait…….wait……..wait some more. Oh theres one by 5pm, ooh interesting another mid of the road guy at 630, wasnt expecting that. Then the big names start to trickle rest of week…no?

    • cliff henny

      don’t think so…it’ll be a wave of major signings and the leaks are about 2 hours away from flooding in. end of the week have the 2nd tier wave, spot starters, depth backups being signed

      • oreofestar

        4:03 Jairus Byrd signs 5 year $43.5mil deal with Eagles PLEASE GOD!!! PLEASE!!!

        • NickS1

          You’re forgetting someone else :)

          • oreofestar

            Oh yeah 5 years $35mil for Ward

          • NickS1

            There we go. I’d rather have the both of them for the same salary that Revis made last year.

          • oreofestar

            I do not want Revis at all, the salary he will command will be ridiculous

          • NickS1

            I’m not on the Revis wagon, either. I respect others’ desire for him, but I’m not interested.

          • oreofestar

            Get me Byrd or Ward at this point and I am happy

          • NickS1

            Yeah. Or both. Haha.

          • oreofestar

            Both would be crazy but I doubt it I am just praying for one

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      nostradamus in the house!

      • peteike

        ya I was joking. Kind of guessing but really asking. I dont recall how it really goes down. This wouldnt surprise me is all

        • oreofestar

          usually some of the biggest names are gone within an hour and by the end of the wee every top tier FA is gone

          • peteike

            thanks

  • Armchairgm3

    I don’t know who Dianna Marie Russini is, but according to her, it comes down to the Eagles or Redskins for Byrd.

    Dianna Marie Russini‏@NBCdianna4 mins: Sources say it will be between the Eagles or The Redskins for Jairus Byrd #NFLFreeAgency

    • peteike

      Dan Snyder would want nothing more than to steal a need out from the Birds with a Byrd. Maybe at least Howie in worst case scenario can make Snyder over pay in a bidding war. Although hes good at that on his own

    • Nick C

      Dont know how reliable she is, but Snyder would probably outbid us if this is the case…

      • oreofestar

        Unless he wants to go to a competitor, which is all I can hope for

      • Armchairgm3

        that’s what I’m afraid of

    • cliff henny

      ‘skins don’t have enough money to sign all the guys they are linked to.

      • DEBO 215

        They’re broke in terms of cap space. I don’t know how they can sign anyone.

    • Corey

      I know Byrd wants top dollar, but why would you go to the Redskins over the Eagles? Aren’t the Redskins just an NFC equivalent of the Bills only worse? He didn’t turn down a big check in Buffalo to go to a worse situation.

    • Jerry Pomroy
    • Jerry Pomroy

      She’s an NBC Sports anchor out of DC.

      • cliff henny

        gowton is linked on there. he’s editor over at bleedinggreennation, so might have some legs.

        • RIP illa

          Cliff, can the skins afford Byrd? What’s there cap situation like? I know they don’t have a lot of room.

          • cliff henny

            21m, just looked it up. but they have a shitton of holes. Byrd and orakpo would eat everything up. they cant significantly outbid eagles like an Oakland. close to even,he has to come to philly

          • RIP illa

            Yeah I would choose winning and getting paid over loosing and getting paid…of course. But damn, I thought they were more cash strapped than that. SON OF A…

          • oreofestar

            they had like $20mil but they resigned Riley today and they are linked to a bazillion guys

          • cliff henny

            they are after hakim nicks too. Snyder is ridiculous.

          • oreofestar

            And Andre Roberts, Kenny Britt, Mike Micthell, Aqib Talib, Corey Graham and Arthur Jones

          • cliff henny

            what did riley sign for ?

          • oreofestar

            no clue

          • aub32

            How about this. We agree to let them have Mitchell, Talib, and Graham. In exchange we get to grab Byrd and Revis.

          • RIP illa

            Yeah but a lot of those guys have been Safeties. So guess they start w/ Byrd and work their way down.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I know they don’t have the same cap ceiling this year than the rest of the league, minus two other teams (Giants & the other team has escaped me). Due to going over last year with paid incentive bonuses.

      • Armchairgm3

        Yea I saw that too. Just don’t know how credible she is, whether she is someone worth listening too, or if she is just another journalist trying to get attention before the free agency market opens up

  • Neanderthal

    Heard from a ” source” this morning that Byrd deal has been done for awhile. Guaranteed it would be the first signing announced at 4pm.

    (Of course “source” was Keith Jones, But hey!!!!!!!)

    • oreofestar

      and the Eagles will be the one signing?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!

      • Neanderthal

        According to “source”, Butt Jonesy usually speaks with his

        • Neanderthal

          I think we end up with Bethea and Mitchell

    • NickS1

      Don’t go playin’ with emotions.

      • oreofestar

        Like mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want him I can not take this anymore I want him to be on the F**Ing Eagles in 3 hours or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • oreofestar

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!! FRUSTRATION!!!!!!! ANTICIPATION!!!!!! HOPE!!!!!! BYRD!!!!!!! WARD!!!!!!!! HOWIIE!!!!!!! PRAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Chill out Brah. Have yourself some Oreos & milk. Then take an hour nap…lol.

      • oreofestar

        I CANT!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Ok, a xanax might do the trick as well…lol.

          • oreofestar

            A Byrd signing will cure all

          • Jerry Pomroy

            From the looks of it, a Byrd signing might make you shit yourself in excitement. Best drop trow at 3:55 and be seated. ;-)

          • oreofestar

            I will be the most excited guy here outside maybe Geagle

          • aub32

            I think G wants Ward

          • oreofestar

            Like me we would take either and I will be pumped regardless

          • Jerry Pomroy

            He’s predicting & pushing Ward though as preference.

          • aub32

            Ward? But haven’t you heard?

    • Max Lightfoot

      Getting a little revved up, are we?

      • oreofestar

        HELL YEAH!!!

    • Brian

      All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. All work, and no play, makes Jack a dull boy.

  • DEBO 215

    No way the Redskins’ can afford Byrd.

    • oreofestar

      I hope the Eagles just pay him, he would obviously choose Eagles over Skins if we give the right offer

    • aub32

      Orackpo has to be eating up some major cap space

      • cliff henny

        have 21m after franchising him.

        • aub32

          Wow. I would not have guessed that. Someone needs to hide Snyder’s check book for the next 2 hrs 9 minutes

          • cliff henny

            but no moves to make more. eagles are at 24m, with jax 4m, casey 3m and chung 2.5m, clears more…then celek at 4m and fletcher at 3m if things got really tight…not pushing for those, but there.

          • aub32

            I’m down for the first 3. Though, I would like to keep Casey. I am all for paying Byrd, even overpaying him. I just don’t want it to be some dumb number because Snyder wouldn’t just let it go.

          • DEBO 215

            Damn that’s wild. I don’t know how they swung that. Well at least we can drive the price up on that nerd Snyder…

          • cliff henny

            no 1st or 2nd round picks in 2 yrs. that saves about 20m in cap right there. he didn’t manage it out of intelligence, so still canbe confident he’ll F it up

          • DEBO 215

            Yeah how bout it…The Rams are going to end up getting Clowney AND Mike Evans this year with those picks too…Redskins’ are stuck with RG-ME for the next 5 years…with one leg…

          • cliff henny

            Mike Evans is coming to Philly. think Oreo want Byrd, my stalking of Evans puts that to shame

          • aub32

            I can’t see Evans falling anywhere near us, especially after that combine.

          • cliff henny

            I know, but today isa day we don’t have to be rational, or sober at 3-30

          • aub32

            I wish. I’ll be at work until 5 and then I have martial arts training at 7. I would like nothing better than to eat wings, drink booze, and call my boy (cowboys fan) as we make moves to further distance ourselves from the rest of the NFCE.

          • oreofestar

            doubt it :P

        • Andy124

          Does this have much to do with the cap penalty they’re just coming out from? I’ve probably already asked you that, but don’t remember the answer.

          • cliff henny

            that’s all behind them. now they just have to deal with no 1st rd picks for 3 yrs, a gimpy qb who’s 1 read and run, and a fantasy football type owner.

          • Andy124

            But what I meant was that they’re still below that cap because they were forced to be and just haven’t had enough time to screw it up again, but in the form of a question instead of a statement.

          • cliff henny

            no, they are working with same 130m number as everyone else.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      That was my thinking too. Why in the hell would any top FAs want to go to WASH? One reason $$ & they don’t have much.

  • Eagledelphia

    I am fine with adding any CB help because I have a feeling this time next year we will be saying how much we need two corners if a upgrade is not made

  • aub32

    Can anyone hit up Byrd on twitter and tell him to just read the comments and how he would become an instant folk hero by signing here. I’m not on twitter, or I’d do it myself. Also, all you Ward > Byrd fans, hurry up and edit your posts.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I pretty much did that yesterday.

    • cliff henny

      what’s his handle…I’ve been on it an hour, it’s about time for meto get suspended

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Just type Jairus Byrd into the search bar and it should show his account as an option to select.

      • Clamdigger

        Are you that guy who gets arrested peeping in to celebrities’ hotel rooms with a pair of binoculars?

    • DEBO 215

      I’d still rather have Ward…but I’ll sure as hell take Byrd.
      I’d rather sign both of them then sign Revis.

      • cliff henny

        you’ll come unglued like the rest of us if they announce Byrd/Revis dual presser ;)

        • DEBO 215

          I’d be excited for sure. Either one is a great improvement.

    • Andy124

      lol

  • CurlyQ

    If we’re competing against the Redskins, then Byrd is bird. It’s a no-brainer.

    • CurlyQ

      ** Byrd is a bird.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Anyone else having trouble retrieving tweets the past 15 mins?

    • DEBO 215

      twitter is straight broken

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Sounds like it is. Networks are at fault. They want viewers not tweeters.

      • cliff henny

        I broke it, my joining pushed it over the crazy ledge

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Way to go Cliff!

        • aub32

          Thanks a lot. Now how are we supposed to welcome Byrd and Revis.

          • cliff henny

            Revis is pipedream, but man, think Byrd is a done deal. these leaks now mean something.

          • aub32

            How can you be so adamant about today being the day of irrationality and then shoot down my dreams. Hypocrisy I tell you.

          • cliff henny

            true, my bad.

    • TheCatalyst

      Yup, can’t post from my phone as well.

  • RIP illa

    So Jeff Darlington of NFL Network just asked the question of what big name D players will the Skins spend money on. Ran off a list of names and when got to Byrd, said “we’re told it will not be the case.” Meaning his sources have told him that the Skins aren’t spending for nor are in play for Byrd! He’s also stationed at the Skins headquarters today.

    • cliff henny

      oh man….hang on for Oreofestar meltdown

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I’m hoping that someone has locked up all sharp objects from his reach, just…in….case.

        • aub32

          Might want to rent him one of those fancy rooms as well…you know the ones with the padded walls

  • Joe Thomas

    Remember back when the Eagles signed Asante at the start of free agency? That was a good day.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Jevon Kearse the second FA started?

      • Joe Thomas

        That was a good day too

  • TheNest

    So could the Byrd finally land!!!

  • Tom W

    Report outta dc it’s birds and skins for Byrd w two other reports saying skins aren’t in on Byrd. Market is weakening. All this Revis bullshit has distracted all the shit teams. It’s a perfect storm. Byrd is there for the taking.

    • cliff henny

      never ever doubt Howie

      • Tom W

        Never doubt the crazy kid who hounded every nfl team for a job and started as an intern.

  • Luis Urueta

    While I think a trade or signing of Revis would be a great fit, I only think at the right price. I like what the philosophy has been thus far, so one would hope that they stick to their guns. In my ideal scenario, I’d like to see them sign S Malcolm Jenkins, OLB O’Brien Schofield, DE Lamarr Houston. Jenkins is a versatile safety who can also play in the slot and is physical, which is what Billy Davis and Chip want. His versatility should bode for him well. With Schofield, he has been injury ridden in first couple of years in the league, but his athletic ability alone is what makes him attractive to teams. Look for him to fly under the radar and perhaps the Birds can scoop him up as a compliment to Barwin. Lastly, Houston adds a big body that can play inside or outside and has also dropped back before in his time with Oakland. Truly a versatile piece that Bill Davis can place in several positions.

    Signing these mid-tier options allows you to then draft at the safety position first in the draft. Calvin Pryor seems like an ideal fit that would add instant competition at the position during camp. Going into camp, you’d have Pryor, Jenkins, Wolff and maybe potentially Nate Allen if the price is right? Who knows… They can then grab a CB is a defensive-back-heavy draft in either the second or third rounds.

    Another option, or perhaps fantasy, I’ve been wondering about is the TRUE availability of Dion Jordan. Based off of posts on this blog, as well as others… Tom Gamble was literally salivating over this guy last year and he doesn’t seem like a good fit in the system that Miami wants to run. It seems we have pieces at our disposal to execute a potential trade: Brandon Graham and Vinny Curry. The question is: Is that enough?

    I’m not sure what to make all of this. Again, this is all my speculation and what seems to make the most sense for this team. I, along with the rest of you, do not want to see a “Dream Team 2.0″ being born this offseason. Dear God, no.

    It should be fun to watch this play out… After a month off, it’s like football never left…

    • Tom W

      Sorry Houston is already going to bears and is going to get paid not mid tier at all We passed on that olb last year.

      • Luis Urueta

        Not mid-tier by any means, but he doesn’t necessarily have the production of a star player. The contract would have been manageable.

  • NickS1

    So apparently Revis won’t renegotiate his deal upon being traded and doesn’t want to go to Oakland. Unreal. I get that his skill is undeniable, but how anybody wants this cancer in our locker room is beyond me. $16mil does a lot of things, like sign the two top safeties in the league :)

    • jabostick

      I’m guessing he wants to force a release so he can pick his team

      • NickS1

        Yeah, I was wrong on the not want to go to Oakland bit. I was given bad info on that.

    • aub32

      How is he a cancer? Do you even know what that term means?

      • NickS1

        He’s actually a perfect fit of the guy that walks into a locker room that’s overpaid where guys get jealous or upset. So yeah, that’s a form of locker room cancer.

        • aub32

          This isn’t 2011. There’s no one on this roster that’s eligible and deserving to get paid that hasn’t been paid. So what negative effect would there be from bringing in and paying one of the top two CBs in the league? We just spent so much money on our own guys. What do they have to complain about? Again, I ask how is he a cancer.

          By the way, getting paid what your worth is not being a cancer. Is he supposed to play for peanuts so that less deserving players don’t get their feelings hurt? Like I said, I don’t think you know what that term means.

          • NickS1

            I think you’re taking this a little personal.

          • aub32

            I am not. I do not know the guy. My issue is with fans who spew out ignorant rhetoric as if it is fact. That makes us all look bad. TO was a cancer. He contributed to dividing the locker room, caused all types of unnecessary media attention, and was a drama queen. All Revis wanted to do was get paid. He held out. Drew Brees held out. However, no one has ever claimed that Revis is a bad teammate, and he gives his all on the field.

          • NickS1

            That’s fair, but there’s a difference between holding out once for that deal you deserve vs holding out every other year, not willing to negotiate down to your worth like he should be doing now since he’s not the best nor is he worth 6mil more than the next highest paid. I don’t care about guys wanting to not go certain places, but you can only hold out and/or make so many monetary demands before you get some sort of label. If cancer is too harsh, diva isn’t. And as long as one can intelligently defend the position, it doesn’t make us look bad.

          • aub32

            Why should he renegotiate? Didn’t Tampa issue that contract. What loyalty does he have to them? I see nothing wrong with a player trying to maximize his dollars. His best chance of doing that is by becoming a FA. Look at the Eagles. Avant was due a 1M bonus this month. Where is he? Why should Revis or any player take a pay cut if they do not wish to? I’m not sure what you do, but if your boss decided tomorrow that you were overpaid and wanted to cut your salary by 40%, I am sure you would want to seek employment elsewhere as well.

          • NickS1

            Clearly my job, and likely yours, operate their pay a little differently. Fact of the matter is if he’s released he’s not going to get paid his salary anyway. So why not hear an offer?

          • aub32

            Because there are 31 other teams that will all want his services. He’s not some mid level guy. Teams will bid for him. Why limit himself to TB when he can go choose where he wants to play and the money he wants to play for. Are you telling me you would forego FA when you have the chance to be on a contender making more than what TB may have offered. The man has yet to ever play on a team with a good QB. Maybe he’d like to know what that’s like.

          • NickS1

            I didn’t hear an offer from TB, so if there was one, I’m working w/o that info. I’m just saying I’d at least hear what they have to say. If they offered him to reduce to 10-11 and he said no, he’s an a-hole….. 31 other teams don’t want him. So let’s not overstate that. They might at the right price, but all the right prices vary for each team, so it’s not act like the market for his services is 31 teams.

          • aub32

            31 other teams can’t afford him. That doesn’t mean they don’t want him. He’s still a top 2 CB in the league. He would immediately improve any secondary.

          • aub32

            Top 3 if you want to put Peterson above him. I would understand that.

          • NickS1

            You knew I meant. Damn semantics.

          • Andy124

            Nit pick, DJ and his desire for more guaranteed money.

          • aub32

            More guaranteed money is not more money. The guy is still making more than 10M this year. He didn’t even sound disgruntled. He was just answering a question, but it’s not like in 2011 when he wasn’t even making 8% of his actual worth.

          • NickS1

            By the way, for not being the clear-cut best corner in the league, he gets paid way more than the next highest guy. I don’t know that spotrac has updated for Shields, but here’s the breakdown of rankings for 2014:

            http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/cornerback/limit-25/
            So yeah, it’s not that hard to see how it’d be a problem for some.

          • aub32

            I knew this. That’s why he is getting cut. No one could play up to the contract he has, and I would want no part of him under that current deal. However, if we can pay Nnamdi, then we should have no problem paying Revis who is a HOF type player. If Revis is willing to accept 10-12M. Then, I would go after him.

          • NickS1

            Since TB wants a first round pick, he’d have to come lower than that for my preference. But, to each their own.

          • aub32

            I’m confused. I am in no way saying we should trade for Revis. Any team doing willing to trade anything other than a 6th and getting Revis to restructure, which he won’t, is run by an idiot. They have to cut him. He’s eating 16M of cap space. Most top QBs don’t do that. So when he gets cut, I am all in on signing him at the dollar amount I mentioned.

          • NickS1

            That’s fair, I definitely thought you were on board for trading a mid-high round pick. I don’t even know what my max on him would be. I don’t want to set the market by signing him when he’s not the best anymore (IMO). I’d be uncomfortable with more than 10, I think. Whole thing makes me uncomfortable, though.

          • aub32

            Also, I blame the Bucs for being dumb enough to give him that contract. Was he supposed to turn down the money?

          • NickS1

            Can’t argue that. And to answer your question of what player would be mad about it, my answer is Boykin. I’d be pissed if I were Boykin. Already doesn’t get the opportunity to show he can play the outside, which many believe he can, and then to bring in Revis and pay him handsomely to further logjam the road to the outside corner slot which further delays him showing his skills and getting paid? Yeah, not hard for me to see him being pissed.

          • aub32

            I disagree there. Roc Carmichael saw the field on the outside over Boykin. If I were Boykin, I would a lot less pissed off seeing Revis playing than a scrub like RC. Also, Boykin can’t get paid until 2015 anyway. Lastly, with Revis taking away 1/3 of the field, guess who gets more opportunities to continue to rack up the INTs. I see what point you were trying to make. I just disagree with it.

          • NickS1

            I’d be willing to bet he was unhappy about watching Roc fail on the outside. Boykin can renegotiate after the season, so if I’m him I want a shot on the outside to maximize my leverage as soon as possible. We just have to agree to disagree in general. I don’t want Revis. I won’t cry if he’s on the team, but I just don’t want each offseason to roll around and wonder if he wants a new deal at 30 and 31 years old and hold the team hostage in order to get it. That’s just me. I like what we’re building without his contract antics. I see your points, trust me, I do, we just view it through a different lens.

          • Tom W

            Cause we can sign two top safeties for the same money Revis is demanding. …. Only your qb gets paid that much. And cancer is someone. Who holds out not once but twice and only one year after getting a giant top corner deal and demands a trade. It’s bs u don’t anyone sixteen mil unless it’s foles or jj watt

          • aub32

            First off, Revis never demanded a trade. I don’t know where you are coming up with that. Second, I agree 16M is too much, but that’s not on Revis. The Bucs were dumb enough to agree to that contract. Revis took what they gave him. Now after he gets released, I fully expect teams to make him offers in the 9-11M range. Maybe one team breaks the bank. I do not want to be that team, but I would like us to be in the 10-11M range. He would be our best player on defense. So I don’t see why we wouldn’t offer that kind of money for him.

          • Uncle Wonder

            A cancer is a jerk to his teammates, jerk to his coaches, uses divisive tactics in the media to get his way, gets coaches fired…that is who TO was. The relationship b/t a player and the FO cannot make him a cancer. They have nothing to do w what goes on on the field. He has operated w/i the rules that the league and union mutually agreed to. At this point he sms to be trying to continue playing for the contract he signed! How can he be labeled a cancer? By that logic Ryan Howard is a cancer. After arbitration he signed two exhoribitant deals that the team offered him.

      • peteike

        ya, TO pretty much defined it

        • aub32

          True, but Revis is not TO. Even though I don’t think that’s what you were implying.

          • peteike

            nope, I never really understood this angle with Revis, same with DeSean

  • Threagles

    Several people saying Sal Pal was just on 97.5 saying the Eagles are in serious negotiations with Byrd. Didn’t hear it myself.

    • cliff henny

      this the old philly beat writer Sal Pal, who actually reported news, or the new ESPN SalPal who manufactures news? either way, i’m good!

      • Neanderthal

        ESPN SalPaL who tries to BE the news

        • peteike

          so true, my buddy who works for the Eagles used to be down on the field sometimes after games. He said Sal gave him the “do you know who I am” line one time when trying to get to a player. Hes not a fan of Howie “the man” either.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Screw him. He’s actually a friggin Giants fan anyway.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Holy CRAP!!
      Lord baby jebus I don’t ask you for much, so please this

    • Tom W

      Ugh salpal is the worst …. Literally everything he says never happens. We are screwed! He is moosh from Bronx tale

  • jabostick

    Twitter is back. Breathe easy, people

  • JofreyRice

    Cowboys are nuts if they let Demarcus Ware get away. Even slowed by injury he averaged about a sack a game. If he hits the market, I’d sign him in a heartbeat. Draft a developmental OLB and use a 3 man rotation in Base D.

    • peteike

      for the sheer joy of seeing him anger Cowboy fans and play against his old team would make it worth every penny

    • cliff henny

      if they cut Ware and don’t resign Hatcher, wonder what kind of defense they are going to field? all Ware opens up is 8m, which aint shit in today’s cap.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      He’s meeting with JJ right now to discuss future. I’d sign him if the dollars made sense & bring in a rookie understudy.

      • cliff henny

        then what do you do with COle? almost have to june 1st him, right? figure drafting olb in rd 1 or 2, he needs to see the field.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Yes…

          • cliff henny

            probably a mute convo, Dallas can only reduce him from 12m to 8m sal, 16m to12m cap hit, he wont see more than that in FA. Ware wants to stay near his 12m salary/16m cap hit. I hope they go full blown restructure, kick his can down the line. that really messes up Dallas cap

    • All Things Bad@ss

      Reports saying he was just released

  • Joe Thomas

    If Cowboys release Ware, do we look into it? He might come cheap enough, and get chance to beat Dallas twice a year, and they have to watch him win with us. Would be sweet.

    • JofreyRice

      He’s still got game off the edge. I hate to say it, because he’s still a Cowboy, but he’s up there with the all-time greats. HOF’r with maybe 3 good years (10+sacks, lots of problems for blockers) left in tank.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        We brought Kearse in at the tail end of his career and he was still effective. I think Ware can be more than just effective still.

      • Joe Thomas

        Yea he is one of the all time greats, and that will be easier to say if we can get him

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Jeez, Viniateri looks like his grandkids will be coming to see him kick. Look at that gray on the sides.

    https://twitter.com/Colts/status/443442708229550080

  • Jerry Pomroy
  • oreofestar

    Men I am out, see you in 2 hours hopefully Byrd is an Eagle be then

  • Mr. Wu

    Crack a smile and rub your nipples kids….T minus one hour!

  • Birds4Life

    I can’t FREAKIN take it anymore! Haven’t gotten a thing done at work today.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Sounds as if you’re being distracted. Tell me, what’s distracting you… :-)

      • Birds4Life

        I dont know what it is really…Just woke up this morning with the feeling of anticipation.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        By the way, that was said in my head with the voice of Bain from DK Rises.

  • Warhound

    tick tick tick

    • UKEagle99

      tick..BOOM!

      Yo back up now and give a brother room
      The fuse is lit and I’m about to go boom

  • Luis Urueta

    Les Bowen’s last tweet is accurate: “Does it bother any of the folks breathlessly retweeting/speculating on NBC Washington lady’s report that nobody else has confirmed?” – @LesBowen

    He’s right. What if we’re not even in contention for Byrd? It could just be people blowing smoke…

    • Jerry Pomroy

      She got the goods the old fashioned way from Snyder. ;-)

      • Luis Urueta

        Snyder pays for those high quality goods, they just never pan out… I have a feeling she’ll walk away feeling very disappointed after this.

    • CJ

      He says that out of one orphus and out of another retweets a poser Shefter about Revis to ATL being a done deal.

      Only Bowen.

  • Luis Urueta

    Revis is a Falcon.

    • cliff henny

      damn-it,new guy beat me!

      • Luis Urueta

        Never mind, it’s a hoax account! Damn, trolls.

        • cliff henny

          just joined twitter today…that got gunner an unfollow,stupid forwards. he’s like my mother with emails

        • peteike

          so if I see that tweet under Schfters name does that mean Im following a fake account?

          • Luis Urueta

            @AdamSchefter is the real account… The troll that tweeted it was @AdarnSchefter.

          • peteike

            ahh yes, I see that now, thanks

      • NickS1

        Slacker.

      • Tom W

        Good didn’t want him and the 16 mil dollar contract. For that money we could get Byrd and ward. Or atleast Byrd and Jenkins

  • Jerry Pomroy

    “Aah, so you think darkness is your ally? I was born in the darkness.”

    • Clamdigger

      Twin brother Darkness.

    • Luis Urueta

      “You merely adopted the dark… I was born in it, molded by it…”

      • George

        “I didn’t see the light until I was a man, and then it was nothing to me but BLINDING”

        • Luis Urueta

          “No one knew who I was before Chip Kelly…” – Jairus “Bane” Byrd

  • cliff henny

    steve smith to Ravens….maybe they wont be in Mike Evans sweepstakes

    • eagle fan dwn south

      Is that official cliff

      • cliff henny

        if pro football talk on twitter is official, then yes. also, ‘skins are now outside looking in with Mitchell. cant afford him, certainly not getting Byrd

        • NickS1

          Byrd and Mitchell, eh?

          • cliff henny

            can live with that. opens up the draft. Joyner!!!

          • NickS1

            Won’t be mad, as long as Davis lets Wolff compete for with Mitchell.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I’m sure it’s still “open” competition. Plus Davis likes to use a 3rd safety every now and again, so Wolff will see the field.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            If that’s true, I called that 2 days ago.

          • NickS1

            I hope that Mitchell stuff is smoke. Until it doesn’t happen, I’m remaining hopeful for Byrd and Ward.

          • cliff henny

            that’s not only a lot of money, but a lot of yrs. Mitchell is probably only seeking 2 yr deal. cant see Howie taking on what most likely will be 4 yr deals

          • NickS1

            I’m not really that hopeful. Fully realize the unlikelihood. It’s years, 3-4 depending on contract structure. I trust Howie can one of the two to effectively be a 3yr and the other a 4yr. Either way, both in their primes, I can live with it.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            What I saw in digging through their Twitter feeds didn’t look like smoke. But you really couldn’t tell what it meant.

          • cliff henny

            twitter crap is addictive, sure only on a day like today. i’ll probably end up following comedians and pornstars

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I love Twitter. I can’t effing stand Facebook!

          • George

            Pretty much.

          • cliff henny

            was just chasing down jenna haze and Audrey britoni

          • NickS1

            Awesome.

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahah didn’t take you long to get acclimated to twitter

          • GEAGLE

            Hit me up @GEAGLEreal

          • oreofestar

            I got 5 minutes before leave and I am dying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • GEAGLE

            Glued to iPad and phone til 6pm

  • Joe Thomas

    Wonder if Chip will be interested in what Edelman can do in his offense

    • Jerry Pomroy

      They will not add WRs through FA. Otherwise they wouldn’t have locked up Coop & re-signed Mac. They’ll look to the draft for WR.

      • cliff henny

        drafting Mike Evans, Jarvis Landry in 5th, don’t need to add any in FA

        • Joe Thomas

          Mike Evans would be a steal

          • peteike

            ya no way he drops to 22

          • cliff henny

            I will move back to philly if eagles land Byrd and draft Evans. might be sleeping on Geagles couch for a month or 2…but i’ll be back!

          • Joe Thomas

            Would definitely be a great offseason

      • Joe Thomas

        True, i would rather have Benjamin

        • Honest_T

          Let’s see, Big, fast, can’t catch…we already have Banjamin, but his name is Momah. Evans is the real deal, though IMO.

          • cliff henny

            i’ll settle for Beckham…even better if they can move back to late 20′s and pick up a 3rd(use on Christian jones)

  • cliff henny

    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m

    When the #Browns reach a deal with Donte Whitner, I’m told it’s expected to be four years for an average of $7M per year.
    .
    guaranteed will be a lot less. average includes air. seems like good news to me

  • peteike

    what happens in 11 min? is this like y2k

    • George

      pretty much

  • Tom W

    Howie! Do it do it! Byrd!

  • Jerry Pomroy

    In other news…Barr ran a 4.44/40 at UCLA pro day today.

    • George

      Yeah, we’re gonna have to trade up for him

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Either up for him or back for second tier. Either way, they’ll have to move one way or another to get their ROLB at the right value pick-wise.

        • GEAGLE

          New twitter @GEAGLEreal

          • cliff henny

            clif henny I just joined, hit me up

          • GEAGLE

            Done

    • cliff henny

      saw that…Marcus in 2nd is sounding more likely

      • Jerry Pomroy

        But as I’ve said, they’ll need to move up at least 15 spots for a realistic shot at Marcus.

  • Scott J

    Byrd and Mitchell sounds nice.

  • Jarrod

    5 minutes!

  • peteike

    signs point to dallas releasing Ware per Schefter

  • NickS1

    Ware released!

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Bring ‘em in!

      • NickS1

        At least have to look, even have Huls take a look, too, see what he can do with him.

    • cliff henny

      HAHAHAHA dallas is going to be SOOOOOOOOO horrible on defense!

      • NickS1

        Yes sir!

        • cliff henny

          know what 9M in free agency buys…nothing!

          • NickS1

            Could buy something. I’m worried JJ comes after Donnie Longball with a 7yr 24mil contract.

          • cliff henny

            actually, the real issue is he leverages that 9m into 25m, turn those 4 yr 25m contract, that we see as 2yr 12m,into 6yr 45m because he has to restructure.

        • Jarrod

          32nd ranked defense that was historically bad just released its best player… priceless

          • cliff henny

            guess they can sign Hatcher, 32 yr old dl who had 1 good contract yr

    • peteike

      welcome to Raider land Demarcus

    • Joe Thomas

      Let him come to Philly and get a ring, Dallas fans will love hearing about that

    • Neanderthal

      What will Byrd Ware?

      Green and Green

    • southy

      He’s a Cowboys legend. Damnit I have my limits!

  • oreofestar

    I am stopping in until 4:05 gotta catch a train at 4:11 I can not take this Mitchell crap bring in the Byrd

    • cliff henny

      both…and WARE and REVIS!!!! and mike evans in the draft!

  • heemy224

    With all this pre free agency hype talk its probably likely that no one knows what the eagles are going to do. They tell their free agents to say nothing. Look at the last 2 years. No one guessed Nnamdi and the dream team. No one guessed Sconce Williams and Barwin and the boys…So I don’t trusttthe reporting. Most likely no significant splash…which IMO would be a mistake

  • oreofestar

    It has started and Byrd has not been signed yet!!!!!!!!!

    • George

      Blasphemy!

    • Neanderthal

      Guess “source ” was wrong

  • Joe Thomas

    They sign Bryd yet, whats the hold up?

  • Warhound

    Well? Well? Well?

    • George

      Albert to raiders, staffold to raiders, veldheerr to cards

      • Jarrod

        what’s the best/fastest source of info on this?

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Just read that Falcon Pro bowl safety Thomas Decoud could be released shortly. Anyone know anything about him?

    • oreofestar

      Don’t care want Byrd!!!!

    • Uncle Wonder

      Rough year for him and that D…I like him though…think he will be a quality cheap option.

    • GEAGLE

      He seriously was horrible this year

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Andre Roberts to the Skins

  • oreofestar

    Damn I gotta leave in 3 minutes

  • aub32

    IT HAS BEGUN!!!!!

    • NickS1

      It’s like Christmas.

      • aub32

        let’s hope for we have been good fans and will get Byrd instead of lumps of Jenkins/Mitchell

        • NickS1

          For real man. The suspense is killin’ me. I don’t even care anymore. I’ll take Revis at 11mil haha.

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Arthur Jones to the Ravens

    • NickS1

      So he stayed home.

      • Jarrod

        Jones went to Colts

        • NickS1

          So he didn’t stay home.

          • EaglesFanInPhx

            correct. 5 year more than 30 mil

  • George

    houston to bears

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Whitner to the Browns (we all knew this was coming already)

  • George

    dansby to browns as well

  • GEAGLE

    Lamarr Houston to bears”..
    .
    Browns got Whitner and dansby

    • oreofestar

      where are you seeing this

      • Jarrod

        Live chat on ESPN – forward of tweets

      • Joe Thomas

        Espn

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      35 million over 5 years

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Michael Johnson to the Bucs

  • George

    Bethea to niners

    • Neanderthal

      there goes my prediction

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      4 years, 26 mil. 6.5 per

  • Neanderthal

    I want Ware

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Lions resigned Ogletree

  • Joe Thomas

    Bethea and whitner gone, second tier going fast

  • George

    mcluster to titans

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      3 year deal

  • Birds4Life

    Ware is getting released by the cowgirls! Worst defense from last year just got…better? Haha!

  • GEAGLE

    Carrington, corey Graham,Jenkins,Ward,Bruce Cambell, Chris cook Are all officially Eagles.. Confirmed :)

    • NickS1

      Really? Where you read this?

      • George

        All his predictions, nothing official yet

      • GEAGLE

        Lol jk..just my predictioms

        • NickS1

          Wow man. That’s f’d up. Real f’d up.

    • oreofestar

      where are you getting your updates

      • GEAGLE

        Twitter and espn

    • Neanderthal

      get off my leg

    • Joe Thomas

      Dont play

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Joe Hawley re-signs with Falcons

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Branden Albert to the Dolphins. Let the O-line signings commence

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    OT Rodger Saffold signs with the Raiders.

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    OT Veldheer to the Cards

  • aub32

    Has Ware officially been cut?

    • George

      yes

    • NickS1

      Yes sir.

    • cliff henny

      think i’m going to get banned about 20 times tonight on bloggingtheboys

      • George

        Wonderful

      • UKEagle99

        floggingtheboys more like ;)

        • George

          New eagles blog??

      • Andy124

        think i’m going to get banned about 20 Brian Dawkins times tonight on bloggingtheboys

        ftfy

  • cliff henny

    Como’n Howie, what’s the freaking hold up?!

    • George

      10 mins… he is losing it

    • NickS1

      “Come on, Smokey! Playin’ with free agency, is like playin’ with my emotions!”

    • jabostick

      He’s letting Schefter and Co get out all their initial tweets so the spotlight can shine on the Eagles signings alone

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    DT Earl Mitchell to the Dolphins – 4 yr 16m

  • peteike

    Haynesworth, TO, Chad Johnson and Rolando McClain signed by skins

    • Warhound

      Chuckling

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    TE Brandon Myers to the Bucs – 2 yr 4 mil

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    G Shawn Lauvao to the skins. 4 yr 17 mil

  • aub32

    I want Byrd (1st), Ware (2nd), and Revis (3rd)

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    DT Clinton McDonald to the Bucs – 4 yr 12 mil

  • peteike

    just byrd, just byrd and Ill be a happy camper. How does Schefter tweet so fast, damn

    • Warhound

      Already has them as drafts?

      • peteike

        probably or an intern

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Rumor of Vick to the Jets (unconfirmed)

  • UKEagle99

    Well it’s official! We haven’t signed anyone yet :/

    • aub32

      It’s a failure

      • Andy124

        Fire Howie!

  • aub32

    My boy just denounced his cowboy fandom

    • Mr. Wu

      just?

    • George

      Were those his first words??? Should be

    • peteike

      well I dont know your friend but like most Cowboys fans they just pick a random team that happens to be winning and roots for them. Seattle is the obvious next choice.

    • cliff henny

      hope you mean by ‘my boy’ as in a friend…not your actual son

      • aub32

        Yea cliff my friend. Any parent raising their child as a DAL fan needs to have social services step in

        • cliff henny

          honestly, you’d be dead to me

          • aub32

            Good. We would have a problem if you did not feel that way.

          • Andy124

            My 5-year old daughter told me Nick Foles is her favorite player… while wearing her McCoy jersey.

            She also knows that ‘Fly Eagles Fly’ ends with “Go Eagles! Dallas Sucks!”

            Just bragging.

          • Maggie

            My baby.

          • Andy124

            Fantasic.

          • Maggie

            Best part is someone else gave it for Christmas!

        • peteike

          my daycare lady is a Dallas fan, my wife is a Giants fan but my lil guy will be neither. Bad influences all around though

  • Joe Thomas

    Tim, Sheil, is there anything?

  • southy

    Lamarr Houston to Bears

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    OT Eugene Monroe resigned with Ravens

  • cliff henny

    the guy who invented twitter is a rightful billionaire…not like that garbage facebook toolbag

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Howie is sitting in his office saying, “we have everyone by the nuts by not telling them yet that we have Byrd.”

  • George

    Kolb is out of buffalo, lol we ROBBED the cards

  • Mr. Wu

    Kevin Kolb released….do it howie

    • Andy124

      Foles’s perfect backup!

    • Mr. Wu

      ^^sarcasm…just to be clear

      • Andy124

        Poor guy’s a concussion waiting to happen. IMO, he needs to protect his future and retire while he can still tie his shoes.

  • aub32

    I gotta go. Ugh. 40 minute commute. FML. Jesus Howie! How hard was it to sign Byrd by 4:15

    • NickS1

      I’m working late to avoid the time away.

      • UKEagle99

        Do you guys not have mobile networks?

        • aub32

          I’m listening to ESPN radio but the ass hat talking is on some tirade about how FA never helps anyone and fans get way too worked up over it. That’s why you have a job moron. Just shut up and read the signings. If I wanted your opinion you’d be writing for Birds 24/7

        • NickS1

          We do. I like being in front of the comp instead of on the phone while driving.

    • Andy124

      Karma for befriending a cowboy fan.

  • UKEagle99

    Corey Graham to visit the Skins to spite GEagle.

    • GEAGLE

      It was always between us and them…he is a raven, logically he goes up the road to DC first, but if they don’t get him to sign he will be an eagle.?GEAGLE CERTIFIED

  • Guest

    Kolb released (shocker)

  • peteike

    Howie is just working the back end of the deal with Byrds agent, patience peeps. Maybe a mil here or there for signing bonus.

  • ojdiddoit

    Geagle lost all respect 4u

    • GEAGLE

      I’ll live

      • ojdiddoit

        so will the Birds

        • GEAGLE

          Awe was I supposed to bite and ask why? It’s ok

  • All Things Bad@ss

    BREAKING NEWS: The Dallas Cowboys just became the league’s 33rd ranked defense in 2014

    • cliff henny

      Eagles will hang 50 by halftime in 1 of the games…that’s cliff-certified!

      • George

        How great would it be to hang 50 in a half in Jerrah-world

        • cliff henny

          make sure it’s on tape…cause I wont remember it

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Santana Moss re-signs with Skins. 1 year deal.

    • southy

      *crickets*

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Steve Smith NOT being released according to rappaport’s source.

    • GEAGLE

      Didn’t the ravens trade for him, or was that BS

      • EaglesFanInPhx

        bs, fake tweet

        • GEAGLE

          On ok thanks

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    OT Eugene Monroe with multi year offer on the table from Ravens, not final yet tho

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    LB DJ Williams re-signing with Bears

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Guys you don’t have to re-announce every single friggin signing made…we have eyes and ears elsewhere.

    • Warhound

      I don’t

    • Andy124

      It’s probably pretty convenient for a lot of the posters here.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Yes, but you have 4 different people trying to race to post the signing of the same 4 guys. Most of which are irrelevant.

        • Andy124

          Annoying to some. Fun to others. C’est la vie.

    • Mr. Wu

      I dont have ears elswere so I appreciate the updates

    • PaoliBulldog

      We’ve been speculating here for weeks. You think we’re gonna shut up now?

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Woodley was officially released.

  • UKEagle99

    Yeah Eagles only rumours would be easier to read and comment on. Obviously that would include names previously linked to us signing elsewhere… Don’t do it. Corey they suck.

  • Stuart Philp

    Lamarr Houson to Chicago

  • Scott J

    I’m sure Ware would love to sign with an NFC east team. #Revenge.

  • Anebriated

    Sign Byrd at 8 ware at something reasonable. If revis gets cut take a look at him. Trade Trent cole to Tampa bay and send djax to jax. Draft Pryor or Benjamin first round.

    • Andy124

      Upvote for living up to your screen name. :)

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Dan Carpenter re-signed with Bills. Hoping eagles sign a good kicker still!

  • cliff henny

    Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn 1m

    Cowboys believe they can sign 3 low-salaried defensive linemen as role players and replace DeMarcus Ware productivity

    .
    ha! batter-up! what does 8m buy? Soap was 3m

    • George

      Long live Jerrah

      • cliff henny

        warm bodies…for kelce, mathis jp and lj to shove all over the field

    • TheCatalyst

      There goes Sean Lee’s production…

  • Jerry Pomroy

    I just reluctantly signed my dog to a 4yr extension. He’ll get a vet check up twice a year and a bone every few days for the next 4yrs. However, if he pisses on the area rug again, he’ll void out the contract.

    **The dumb one, not the smart one.

  • GEAGLE

    Tim or Sheil…any word on what city Ward and Byrd are in right now? Knew I shoulda camped out in my car I front of Novacare enterance

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    DONNIE JONES 3 yr deal

    • George

      And howie’s clinic begins…

      • EaglesFanInPhx

        First signing of free agency! love me some donnie.

    • TheCatalyst

      F*cking right

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      3 year 6 mil

  • Luis Urueta

    Good riddance, Patrick Chung.

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Patrick Chung released!

  • Corey

    Well wonder how Chung’s release makes Byrd feel

  • Eagledelphia

    Donnie resigned and Chung released

    • Mr. Wu

      D Jones re-signed?

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        3 years woooooooooooo

        • Andy124

          Donnie Football!!

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Donnie J’owns!

  • Luis Urueta

    Could Chung’s release mean a safety is on the way?

    • George

      i pray…

    • jabostick

      It just means inevitability is inevitable

    • GEAGLE

      No. It means two safeties are on the way!!

    • Weapon Y

      Absolutely. There was no other reason to hang on to him this long.

  • GEAGLE

    Soliali to Atlanta with Tyson Jackson, and asomogha

  • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

    hasta la vista chung!

    • George

      Good fn riddance

    • OldDocRoss

      I haz a happy!

  • Nfl All Day

    CHUNG GONE!

  • cliff henny

    ohhh man….tough to cut chung if he’s tight with Byrd

    • George

      Not if the contracts already signed…

      • cliff henny

        piss him off before he hits the ground, haha.

    • GEAGLE

      Means we are signing two safeties…Jenkins/Ward or Mitchell/byrd

    • Nfl All Day

      Its business. They get it.

  • Nfl All Day

    Details on Whitner deal? Anyone

    • George

      4/28

      • Nfl All Day

        Guarantee?

        • EaglesFanInPhx

          No details on that yet

    • Eagledelphia

      4 years 28 mil havent seen much about the guaranteed money yet

  • Joe Thomas

    Donnie!

  • GEAGLE

    Obrien scofield is a giant..told you Kapadia we wouldn’t want him

  • JofreyRice

    Good move to release Chung. Now don’t sign the 2014 version. Get a player!

    • GEAGLE

      Means we are signing two safeties

      • borntosuffer

        Nate and …?

        • Warhound

          Ward

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        have to; only wolff and keelan johnson, two 2nd year guys, on roster. someone’s coming to roost….

        • GEAGLE

          Yup…need two veterans….GUARENTEED two sign two

      • Joe Thomas

        Hopefully

        • GEAGLE

          GURENTEED!!!

      • Dominik

        My first thought, too. And I LOVE it.

  • GEAGLE

    Chung’s release means we are either landing Byrd and.Mitch…or Ward and Jenk

    • peteike

      I like your thinking

  • NickS1

    Chung better have done his recruiting duties before he got cut.

  • UKEagle99

    Chung released. 1 down 1 to go. Fingers crossed. #TalentlessOne

    • NickS1

      Hopefully Roc is next.

      • George

        Or casey…

      • OldDocRoss

        CASEY MATTHEWS!

      • UKEagle99

        Casey then Roc in my book.

        • NickS1

          Tomato tomahto.

          • Ark87

            keep in mind, guys, we have plenty of roster space, a guy who made the roster is good enough to be a camp body, we can always cut small time players like Roc later as opposed to now (with a better idea of whether a player is ascending, stagnating, or regressing).

          • southy

            what are we paying Roc this year?

          • Warhound

            Hopefully nada ;)

  • TNA

    Donnie Football!!!!!

    • TNA

      I’m curious if there’s a clause in donnie football’s contract that enables him to compete for the pk position.

  • southy

    *chris berman voice* “TICK, tick TICK, tick TICK…”

  • jabostick

    I assume this post will shatter the Birds 24/7 record for comments?

  • UKEagle99

    If Andy was still here I’d be half waiting for them to announce they are moving Celek to Safety.

    • southy

      LJ has it covered

    • Andy124

      I am still here and I’m considering it. Have to see what Stoutland thinks about it first.

  • Andy124

    Eagles showing strong interest in Ward per the league’s worst source. Maybe he finds a nut this time, but he will still suck.

    • Nfl All Day

      We sign one of the 2 big safeties I’m copping a jersey.

  • Nfl All Day

    Almost 1 hour in and nothing. I swore we’d have a mid level guy by now. They must be waiting for a big fish b4 they commit

    • Andy124

      Insufficient love of Donnie Football present in this post.

      • Nfl All Day

        That’s like the kid who expects a present for cleaning his room, you were supposed to do that.

        • Andy124

          lol

  • Eagles1018

    I feels it either Bryd or Mitchell. I think Nate Allen comes back also. And don’t forget the draft……

    • anon

      why let him test if they are going to re-sign. see riley.

      • southy

        if his agent’s expectations were out of line with reality, and he thought he might see a better offer from, like, KC or somewhere.

    • Luis Urueta

      Agreed. Can see it being Mitchell if the price isn’t right for Byrd. Don’t forget about Malcolm Jenkins, either.

    • Warhound

      If Allen is back I expect Ward.

  • GEAGLE

    EAGLes SHOWING STRONG INTEREST in WARD

    • George

      per who?

      • Andy124

        The most unreliable source in the league.

        • George

          JLC or Bowen??

          • Andy124

            JLC.

      • UKEagle99

        @GeoffMosherCSN per @JasonLaCansomthing

        • Andy124

          Mosher was just passing on what Mr. Nobody wants to work for Howie Roseman said.

          • Andy124

            Jason La Confora to be precise.

          • peteike

            I thought it was the unwritten rule not to engage him in any way

    • peteike

      wait a second, hes not coming off knee surgery

      • peteike

        ok ok bad 2011 joke

  • cliff henny

    maybe the holdup is Ward and Byrd are negotiating against eachother for which gets the honor to play in Philly

    • jabostick

      I’m sure that Whitner deal threw a bit of a curve.

    • GEAGLE

      Have a feeling we are getting both

      • cliff henny

        nawh, issue is they both will want enough that contracts will be at least 3yrs, probably be tough to get out in under 4 yrs. so 2nd guy will only be a 2yr contract. I know how the Bear-Jew thinks

        • GEAGLE

          Wonder if we can pair Mitchell with Ward or if it will be Jenkins?

  • GEAGLE

    Its either Ward AND Byrd,,,or Ward AND Jenkins -Geagle

    • reb

      Ok, now you’re going over the edge. Grab a paper bag and breathe deeply. Just don’t want you to pass out.

      • GEAGLE

        Wipe your mouth…

        • reb

          Come on now, don’t get snippy. I actually like your posts, just trying to keep you tethered to earth. Why’d you edit out the Maggie part? Half the fun is watching the two of you go at it.

          • Maggie

            Well reb, the problem is, I address my comments or opinions to other people, like now. I also use proper English and do not call anybody ugly names because they don’t agree. And I don’t EVER call people ugly garbage based on their gender.

    • Eagles4Life

      No Ward, buddy…smh

  • JofreyRice

    If Ware wants to go back to a 3-4 and hope to win a SB, I honestly don’t see too many places for him to land, other than Philly. NO? they are bailing players out of the cap. Ditto on PIT. Baltimore & KC have their edge rushers. Arizona has a hell of a task just winning their division, let alone the SB. Green Bay generally doesn’t go after guys like that. I guess you could say maybe Indy or New England, but I like our chances as much as theirs. I wonder if Ware hates Philly, after being a Cowboy for so long?

    • peteike

      NE only has like 8 mil in space they need to resign Aqib. I could see taking the money in Oak or GB even, lot of teams with money to spend. Doesnt mean they will though

    • Nfl All Day

      Doubt it. He’s a fiery guy. I bet he respects the passion.

      • JofreyRice

        I have to make a confession…he’s one Cowboy I’ve never hated. Just doesn’t seem like a punk. Romo, Witten, Dez : NEVER want them as Eagles. But Ware…yeah, I could root for him.

        • Andy124

          Sean Lee

    • Token

      How much and how long? Id do a 2 year deal max. Draft a olb. Cut cole as june 1st. Ware can still impact a game. Just has to stay healthy.

      • UKEagle99

        I wouldn’t cut Cole, definitely look to deal Graham though.

      • Nfl All Day

        I wouldnt cut #58. Platoon them boys and pull Barwin to play both Cole & Ware on passing downs. YIKES!

        • Nfl All Day

          Then send Kendricks A gap with them coming off the edge….GOOD NIGHT.

  • cliff henny

    bethea only 4yrs 23m. pretty low considering

    • George

      he’s gotten money, wnats to win now

      • cliff henny

        still. less than 6m, probably closer to 5m over 3yrs. 30 probably didn’t help his cause

    • Nfl All Day

      Scared to see the numbers for Mitchell and Jenkins at that rate.

  • GEAGLE

    Stevie brown and Schofield are both giants

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Vontae Davis expected to re-sign with Colts

  • anon

    chung gone. dead $$ be damned.

    • George

      a little late to the party there bud.

    • borntosuffer

      Per McLane – Correction: #Eagles won’t have to pay $1 million guar to Patrick Chung if he signs elsewhere, per source. Had offset language in contract.

      • cliff henny

        nice, so does casey. think he might be next to go

      • anon

        good ole howie should have known.

        • Andy124

          Hooray for offset language. Fair to players and teams.

    • Nfl All Day

      $1M. Aint ish

    • cliff henny

      @JimmyKempski Chung was just a poor scheme fit. Needs to go to a team that won’t ask him to tackle, cover, or read plays.

      • borntosuffer

        Damn.

  • Joe Thomas

    Jenkins

    • Joe Thomas

      3 years

  • George

    Jenkins to US!! 3/16.5

  • GEAGLE

    Eagles signed Jenkins….

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      you called this one.

      • GEAGLE

        I ain’t done yet bud :) 3yr 16m

    • Joe Thomas

      So we get ward too right?

      • GEAGLE

        OH YEAH!!!!!

    • JofreyRice

      Took so long because he missed the pen the first time he went to grab it. ugh. Horrible.

    • Joe from Easton

      Who’s next schwab?

  • Eagles1018

    Malcolm Jenkins to the Eagles

    • JofreyRice

      Terrible!

  • GEAGLE

    So far I’m 2 for 2…Jenkins and Donnie :)

    • mksp

      DUDE, SHUT UP.

  • Nick C

    No Byrd. Jenkins coming for 3 years

    • JofreyRice

      Awful!

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        boy, they must really value character/leadership/intangibles, or the whole notion of jack-of-all-trades, master of none

        • JofreyRice

          I really hope there is more to come. He sucks. Bad luck his rancid tackling display is so fresh in my mind, having just re-watched the Seattle game.

        • GEAGLE

          Relax..Ward is next

          • Andy124

            Well, he was next. Just to the wrong team.

          • Maggie

            Yup.

  • DharmaBum

    Chung gone>

  • Token

    Ugh….Jenkins was the main target

    • JofreyRice

      unbelievable. Release Chung to sign Jenkins. Bum swap.

  • Nfl All Day

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • Javi Echie

    Ok now since we got Jenkins we can snatch up Ward.

  • Nfl All Day

    Fucking jenkins eat shit

    • George

      they’re only signing one??

      • Nfl All Day

        I’ll b3 sick if thats it.

  • Mr. Wu

    waaa waa waa waaaaaaaaaa……..ugggh

  • Nailed it!

    Really, I like Jenkins especially if Byrd’s contract will be in the 9 mill/yr range everyone needs to grow up.

    • JofreyRice

      I know he saves some coin against the cap, but he’s not a good player. Byrd is. You get what you pay for.

  • cliff henny

    3yrs 16mfor MJ. basically a C-wills 2yrs 10m deal.

  • GEAGLE

    Ward Carrington and Corey are next :)

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      graham is in DC visiting

      • GEAGLE

        I know…logical. It’s on the way to philly”…if they let him leave, he is an eagle…they signed like 5 dudes. Already

  • UKEagle99

    Step back from the ledge guys, this show ain’t over!

  • Eagles4Life

    Jenkins…SMDH

  • morgan c

    DeMarcus Ware? Yes please!

    • UKEagle99

      Rush trumps all.

  • Mr. Wu

    this is worse then the True Detective finale

    • peteike

      haha, cliche indeed

  • peteike

    character guy, captain etc.

  • Eagles1018

    I’m not sure how to feel. They couldn’t wait and let the market shake out? Bryd has proven to be worth spending a little extra. I feel like Christmas came and instead of a ps4 I got a Super Nintendo

    • Nfl All Day

      Turbo Graphix

    • Andy124

      Super Nintendo has more good games.

  • Nfl All Day

    GIMME WARD &WARE NOW!

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    NT Soliai was linked as a possible target for the birds, he signed with Falcons

    • George

      still signed with bidrs lol

  • Spinelli

    Signing Ware and Ward or Byrd or Mitchell would be an amazing offseason. Safety Play and Pass Rush would be improved. At least on paper. Pretty Sweet if the Eagles Brass can pull this off. Let’s Watch and Hope!

    • peteike

      Ware aint coming to Eagles.

  • cliff henny

    still have 20+m to spend

  • Eagledan

    We Got jenkins

  • Joe Thomas

    Just Bryd now, dammit, bye Ward

    • GEAGLE

      Byrd or Mitch….they better not sign major wright

      • Joe Thomas

        No doubt

  • Eagledelphia

    8.5 million guaranteed for Jenkins

  • PaoliBulldog

    Jenkins? Did Amaro take over for Howie? Hate this move.

  • George

    Ward to broncos

    • Nfl All Day

      Nards.

  • Eagles1018

    TJ Ward to the Broncos. Now what???

    • George

      Byrd… I hope

    • GEAGLE

      Byrd(may be bad fit) or Mitch

  • GEAGLE

    Broncos signed Ward. FUCK!!!!!MM

    • Andy124

      I always knew I hated Elway.

  • peteike

    ugh, I knew it, was so obvious he would follow last seasons playbook. Only spending on middle of the road guys. Worked before, stay with the trend. Is Byrd a raider now, just wait

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Blaine Gabbert to SF for a 6th round pick

    • Andy124

      wow

  • Eagles1018

    I guess that’s what Howie thinks as well

  • Token

    Broncos sign Ward. Rich get richer and we get Jenkins

    • JofreyRice

      they’re not trying to “force” anything. Championship rosters usually just spontaneously form on their own.

      • peteike

        so true, I bet they dont make it to the champ game this coming season. Peyton has to be done after this season, not sure Im buying much more stock after that, window is closing fast

        • JofreyRice

          I was actually being sarcastic. The reason they were in the Super Bowl is because they had the cojones to go out and get Peyton Manning, DRC, Pot Roast Knighton, etc. Big time free agents.

          I agree Peyton’s days are numbered, but I think they’ll be a force next year–and I think Ward makes them better.

          • Clamdigger

            DRC is a bitch.

          • JofreyRice

            Agreed, but he helped that team.

          • Clamdigger

            Pshh!

  • Corey

    Jenkins is FS right? isn’t only SS left Mitchell?

    • Javi Echie

      He’s actually a FS to

    • George

      in our system, safeties are interchangeable

      • Corey

        well then Byrd can still be had, hahahahahaha

        • George

          I hope

          • Corey

            I want Byrd bad, that Oregon connection must be appealing to Byrd. Would think Chip would not give up on him so easily

    • JofreyRice

      he plays a lot of positions poorly. Terrible nickel corner, lousy free safety, incompetent box safety. Versatility is key!

  • CurlyQ

    Malcolm Jenkins????? WTF??? If that’s all we’re getting for christmas, might as well burn all the other presents……

  • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

    garafalo says we’re not done at safety yet

    Eagles might still be doing work on the safety front, even after signing Malcolm Jenkins. Stay tuned.— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 11, 2014

    • NickS1

      I hope so.

    • Andy124

      Mitchell next. Guessing.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        noooooooooooooo

        • Andy124

          Only becuase Jenkings = coverage. Byrd = coverage. Figured they’d diversify. Maybe they’re just going to go all in on coverage because today’s NFL. Might be a good idea.

          Still birding for Byrd.

      • cliff henny

        better. not great.

  • http://batman-news.com theedevilsadvocate

    oh fudge noooooooooooooo

  • anh

    shefter is reporting that Broncos got TJ Ward

    • NickS1

      Damnit.

  • alsdjfs

    Eagles don’t want a box safety, I don’t know why people would think they would go after Ward

    • UKEagle99

      Because he’s more than just a box safety?

      • aslkdjf

        There were multiple reports that the Eagles viewed him as a box safety, as did others. Do some research please

        • Eagledelphia

          That doesnt mean that is all that he can do he is a more than adequate cover man as well and much better than anything the Eagles have had at any time recently in both phases

          • Kd711

            I don’t think the Eagles were willing to dish out a lot of money to someone with only 5 career interceptions. He may be able to cover, but Chip values turnovers.

          • Eagledelphia

            Jenkins only has 5 as well and according to twitter the average salary is around the same no word on the guaranteed money yet though

        • Andy124

          There were. There were also dissenting reports praising his man coverage ability. Try to disagree without insulting.

        • UKEagle99

          Did you read SK’s piece on him? Sure he played mostly in the box and isn’t suited to centre fielder (how many are?) but he plays man well and can cover tight ends.

          No need to be THAT guy.

      • mksp

        Yeah, he’s pretty much considered best lined up 8 yards from the line of scrimmage, despite the delirious simple-minded rants from fans on this website…..

      • Maggie

        He’s also a Bronco now, I believe. according to NFL Network they were pursuing him for some time. Eagles fans have to pay attention to what is going on in the real world.

  • Joe Thomas

    Sounds like we could go into next year with Jenkins and Wolfe. I like Wolfe, but I still want Bryd

    • Andy124

      I know spelling isn’t very important on teh interwebz, but Wolff.

  • peteike

    Donkeys going to get Ward and Jared Allen I bet. RIch get richer is right with Von coming back. Where does Sproles end up, Jets with Vick?

  • Andy124

    silver lining
    JLC continues to be an always wrong douche nozel.

    • George

      lmao

  • JofreyRice

    DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CRAIG STELTZ NEWS???

  • Eagledelphia

    Ward signed for an average of 5.5 million a year havent seen that guaranteed money yet but if that is all he needed to be signed and we gave that much to Malcolm Jenkins…..

    • George

      damn…

    • Mr. Wu

      uuugggh shut up …I don’t even want to hear this…LALALALALALALALALALALA!!!

    • anon

      which one of those teams went to the sb last year??

      • Eagledelphia

        fair enough but not a offer a little north of that may have made the Birds competitive in the race

        • anon

          I’m with you — we all got our hopes up

    • UKEagle99

      $8.5m guaranteed

      • Eagledelphia

        for Ward?

        • UKEagle99

          Sorry, my bad, misread. Jenkins…

  • oreofestar

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • George

      welcome back

    • cliff henny

      Byrd’s still in-play. it’s not a bad/limiting contract. it’s a Howie special

      • Rahkem

        i hope your right , i really do

      • oreofestar

        How do you give Jenkns that huge deal and expect Byrd too!!!! DAMNIT

        • Andy124

          That’s not huge. That’s medium.

        • cliff henny

          dude, it’s a Howie special. 2yrs 8.5m. he’ll never see 3rd yr

      • JofreyRice

        So 7.5 mil played out over the next two years of the contract, with half of the total hitting this year? So basically, they paid for a middling player at middling wages, with a nice signing bonus. I hate that strategy–knowingly signing someone you have rated as average–but it is true to what they said.

        • cliff henny

          probably something like that. have to see numbers. but guy isn’t seeing 3rd yr at 8m, that’s for sure.

        • Maggie

          Well, Ward was in play with Denver for some time. Byrd? Gotta pay attention to the rest of the league sometimes.

  • TNA

    Vontae Davis – 4 yr $39 MM, $20 MM guaranteed. wow.

  • cliff henny

    Wonder if Howie just has form contracts. have the 2yr with 2nd yr having off-set language. have the 3yr one where it’s 50% air only really 2 yrs. that’s it…free agents have better like one or the other

  • Corey

    Eagles could still get Byrd, need another starting safety can’t just hope one falls in the draft.

    • JofreyRice

      could try a batting average approach by bringing in a guy like Major Wright (mid tier) and drafting guys in the first (mid tier) and fourth (mid tier) and seventh (mid tier).

      5 mid tier guys, one of them has to be a really good safety, by the law of averages, right? Isn’t that how that works? Don’t they say if you and two buddies are having a beer, at least one out of the three of you has to be a starting quality NFL safety, or am I confusing that with something else?

      • peteike

        ya right, after suffering so long at the position Im just not feeling batting avg approach. I also just dont think they add 2 safeties in FA, not buying it until I see it.

  • Threagles

    We are getting another safety, folks.

  • Tim

    Wow, Denver really signed Ward for 5.5/yr (same as Jenkins)? Very confused.

    • Corey

      maybe that brings Byrd’s # down?

      • EaglesFanInPhx

        I think its 8.5/yr

        • Corey

          They got Jenkins on the cheap, could easily get Byrd at the 8.5/yr rate, hopefully not demanding much higher

          • JofreyRice

            I got my washer on the cheap three years ago. I paid a little more when I replaced it last month.

    • cliff henny

      haven’t seen his number announced yet

    • DharmaBum

      I’m almost speechless at that. I’m hoping that means Byrd is still in play for us.

  • aub32

    Alright. Who didn’t believe hard enough for Byrd!!! I leave for 40 min and look what happens.

    • NickS1

      Its unreal.

    • oreofestar

      !!!!!!!!!!!

  • Brian

    Is there any relation to Izel Jenkins?

  • oreofestar

    WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is just….

    • cliff henny

      hang in there….breath. byrd and Mitchell are still out there.

      • anon

        Mitchell is a consolation?

      • oreofestar

        I can not see us pairing Jenkins with Byrd

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    McFadden re-signs with Raiders

  • anon

    s
    So browns let Ward go and pay Hitner more??

  • oreofestar

    I can not believe we let Byrd and Ward just go, for Jenkins who we overpaid

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      Byrd is not “gone” just yet

      • oreofestar

        so we are pairing to FS together

        • George

          the safeties are interchangeable, or coaches want them to be…

          • oreofestar

            I sure as hell hope so

    • George

      byrd too?

    • Maggie

      We let them go? You knew that half the league was after safeties. Why wouldn’t Ward go to Denver, maybe go to the SB again. Maybe.

      • peteike

        The Browns were in the superbowl? kidding. I read it like that haha

  • Eagles4Life

    Ward took less money than Jenkins…INCREDIBLE.

    • TNA

      Won’t know that until they release the guaranteed money details. The average per year is about the same ~$5.5 MM/yr. But we don’t know how much of that is guaranteed for each player.

    • JettMartinez

      NFL in general, not just the Eagles, placing less value on run support in the box safeties. Passing league.

      • Eagles4Life

        Pretty damn good at coverage too.

  • botto

    jenkins is good

    • peteike

      I like him also, good leader, will fit in well. I just wanted Byrd and I seriously doubt they buck up for him

    • anon

      “good” not “great”

  • Javi Echie

    I hope everybody clamoring for these big name free agents do know that Howie is saving some money in order ro resign kendricks, cox, boykin, and foles next year. Take that into account everybody.

    • peteike

      they are also freeing up a bunch of money letting guys go so that formula doesnt really wash

    • aub32

      That’s bogus. Cox won’t be extended. He’s still making first round pick money and has not outperformed his contract. Kendricks won’t cost much, and Boykin has little leverage lest he wants to play at under 1M again. Salary cap goes up. Plus cole, graham, and herremans will be gone.

    • RIP illa

      I hope everybody talking clamoring for Howie to save money for kendricks, cox, boykin, and Foles next year realizes that the salary cap is moving up and that we have old vets making some serious cash that need to come off the books!

      • Guest

        In no way is this team Jairus Bryd away from a superbowl so why break the bank for him unless that was the case? I’d rather build for now and the future instead of investing heavy on one particular free agent.

        • anon

          what were broncos before peyton? is there anyone on d you can build around?

  • Guest

    well I fully believe the Eagles are done at this point and our secondary will continue to suck next season.. Please prove me wrong

    • Jeff Asay

      Booooooo

  • Nfl All Day

    2nd time in the last 5yre. The Broncos scoop us for a safety at a head scratchingly LOW number. $5.5M avg? You kidding me?

  • I hate this

    Waste of money. Malcolm Jenkins PFF rank:

    65 of 86 safeties in 2013
    88th of 88 in 2012
    33rd of 87 in 2011
    46th of 85 in 2010
    103rd of 107 in 2009

    • JofreyRice

      Batting average!

      • Eagledelphia

        seems appropriate for the Eagles safety moves recently

        • JofreyRice

          Howie is the Greg Dobbs of free agency. But hey, yeah, let’s keep doing it this way. Wheee.

    • Nfl All Day

      Say it again, SAY IT LOUDER! ABSOLUTE CRAP!

  • jabostick

    We’re only an hour and a half into the offseason everyone. No need to bridge jump yet

    • oreofestar

      *jumps bridge*

      • jabostick

        My wife and kids aren’t the only ones who dont listen to me

        • borntosuffer

          Preach.

  • Warhound

    1007 and counting….. we need lives…

    • RIP illa

      This is our lives!!! :-)

    • cliff henny

      i’m happy w/ mine. miller lites and the Eagles (25 missed calls and about 250 emails…but F’em, they should know better)

  • Eagles1018

    I am seriously disappointed.

  • JofreyRice

    I’m just glad they haven’t spent that much yet. I woke up in a cold sweat last night thinking they were under 20 million in cap room. HEAVEN FORBID!

    I’m thinking the scene in Howie’s office at Novakremlin looks like “It’s a Wonderful Life” when George Bailey is trying to ride out the end of the day, except Howie’s sweating it out with two 10 million dollar bills on the table. 5.,..4….3…2….1 YAAY!!!

  • Birds4Life

    Maybe they signed Jenkins to make room for Ware and Revis

    • aub32

      We can only hope.

  • George

    Byrd is visiting the saints… were fucked

    • oreofestar

      I am not worried about the saints but if Byrd is wondering around then it means Howie is not freaking interested!!! I am pissed!!! Malclom Jenkins?!?!?!?! He is coming in as our number 1 safety

      • George

        Thats what im thinking… damn this draft better be damn perfect

    • Corey

      how can they afford Byrd?

      • Javi Echie

        That was gonna be my exact question after they resign Jimmy they gonna be close to broke

        • George

          If he wants to be there theyll find a way

          • Corey

            I know Saints just beat Eagles in the playoffs but I don’t know if their future is brighter than ours. Their team is crumbling with cap cuts. Just seem to be in disarray.

          • Clamdigger

            Calm down, Chicken Little.

    • Threagles

      Lighten up, Francis.

      • peteike

        RIP harold ramis

  • peteike

    “49ers QB Colin Kaepernick is scheduled to make $1.1 million in 2014.
    His new backup, Blaine Gabbert, is scheduled to make $2.01 million.”
    aint that funny

    • borntosuffer

      Not to Colin.

    • Clamdigger

      Gabbert’s probably a better passer.

  • cliff henny

    byrd visiting saints

  • TNA

    Bills free-agent S Jairus Byrd is on his way to New Orleans to visit the Saints, per source.

    • anon

      Why do i even get excited for FA? It’s like a kid getting excited for Christmas then realizing he’s a Jehovah’s witness

    • JofreyRice

      Nice upgrade for them!

    • CurlyQ

      They only have $2 millions in cap space….. how are they going to show him the money?

      • JofreyRice

        I have to think the financial wizards an organization employs is better at figuring out creative cap management than a bunch of amateurs that can check overthecap.com. I mean, I’d imagine there are ways to move stuff around that the average layperson is just not going to get. If the parties are interested, it will happen. Don’t think Byrd (or his agents) is would waste his time, otherwise. Every hour he spends on the market might lower his price.

        And NO knows something about fielding a champion within the confines of the cap.

  • Nfl All Day

    Wish they’d have let the market shake out a bit b4 they signed Jenkins. If you missed out on him and had to fall back on Nate did you really lose much?

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Still buzz on Mitchell tho per McLane

    • cliff henny

      yup, 2yrs 5.5 per, then bunch of air on top…the Howie special #2

    • JofreyRice

      holy shit, one fucking bum isn’t enough?

      • EaglesFanInPhx

        “batting average” approach makes it likely. i REALLY want Byrd tho.

  • anon

    Byrd travelling to Nola?

  • Nfl All Day

    Byrds visiting the Saints! What a mind f#ck!

  • Name

    no way the saints have enough cap space to sign byrd

    • NickS1

      Restructure brees n they do

      • guest

        I do not think they can do much with Brees’ contract or else next year the cap number is rediculous. I can not imagine it being worth it for Byrd

        “Notice that Brees said he’d be willing to extend his contract to save the Saints some money next season, not take a pay cut. Brees is set to count $18.4 million against the Saints salary cap in 2014 and then $26.4 million and $27.4 million in the two seasons after that.”

        • NickS1

          If Loomis follows the Jerry Jones school of contracts, then it’ll happen.

    • borntosuffer

      Per Kempski
      The Saints have less than $2 million in cap space, according to http://overthecap.com . Maybe Byrd is visiting New Orleans for the beignets.

      • Warhound

        They are yummy

        • borntosuffer

          Agreed. So are the ladies. Just make sure they are, you know, ladies, if that’s what you’re looking for.

      • UKEagle99

        If they sign Graham to a long term deal they can lower the current $7m.

        • EaglesFanInPhx

          He wouldn’t sign for less than that.

          • UKEagle99

            He doesn’t have to.

          • EaglesFanInPhx

            right, but even a big signing bonus wouldn’t lower it more than a couple mil i wouldn’t think.

          • UKEagle99

            So that’s now $4m they have and Brees wants more years… they can make it happen.

        • Corey

          It will take all summer for Graham and Saints to agree on long term deal. No way Byrd waits around for that.

      • peteike

        haha, love it. They are in cap hell just trying to sign Jimmy

    • Corey

      have apparently less than 2 mil. Should be no chance.

  • Corey

    I don’t get why people keep bringing up the Buccs as a suitor for Byrd just because his father is there. Don’t the buccs still have Barron and Goldson? Do they need 3 safeties?

  • aub32

    Maybe Byrd is going to pickup Jenkins on a private jet.

    • Shane Brown

      Please

    • Andy124

      Is there a doubt?

  • NickS1

    Howie must have low-balled the sh*t out of Byrd

    • George

      Banner taught him well… :(

      • RIP illa

        Not really. What Banner wants, Banner usually has a way of getting. Balls of steel during negotiations. But until Bryd is or is not announced, I’m not gonna even try to figure out how Jenkins was preferred over Ward!

        • aub32

          Especially for as little money that ward went for. I mean it’s peanuts.

    • Corey

      You get what you pay for. Unless you overpay for shit. Then you spent money on shit. But Byrd is not shit, so spend money on him. I should write poetry.

      • George

        Yogi berra-esque

  • JofreyRice

    Former Eagles Pro Personnel guy Louis Riddick thinks the Eagles are probably going hard after Demarcus Ware, via twitter.

    https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/443503103510589441

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      Forget “thoughts”, give me facts or at least rumors, not “thoughts”

      • aub32

        Pics of Howie sitting down with Ware or it doesn’t count.

        • NickS1

          Even then I won’t believe it’s not photoshopped

          • aub32

            Time stamped and verified for authenticity?

          • NickS1

            With an affidavit…. maybe.

    • Nfl All Day

      Just like it was down to them and the Skins for Byrd? Enough of the speculators. Freaking Geagle has a better batting avg. Than most of the experts right now.

  • aub32

    Is Jenkins and Ware better than Byrd and not Ware?

    • EaglesFanInPhx

      not with Ware on the decline.

    • oreofestar

      no

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Golden Tate visiting Detroit tonight. This one’s for you Maggie.

  • oreofestar

    This is stupid and ridiculous, get me Byrd or I jump

    • peteike

      not happening, batting avg. You can feel it right, major wright

    • aub32

      I didn’t know you were still on that bridge my brother. I figured you jumped when we signed Jenkins.

  • ed

    by all means … all of these wanna be GMs can jump

    • Javi Echie

      I agree

    • peteike

      from the guy who wants to add Ware and Revis, everyone is guilty

    • oreofestar

      OK I will….

  • ed

    You think Howie is executing Chip’s plan? Do you think Chip has an idea who he wants? Everybody should just calm down…

    • RIP illa

      Ed, I think you would enjoy yourself much more if you went over to Tommy’s site and linked up with like minded commenters instead of trolling and peddling that ish over here at the present time! This is initial knee-jerk reaction time for some for some of us. AND THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!! Jenkins has a history of being not as good as what we would hope would help fix our Safety problems. And when looking at the price vs the number 2 safety in FA…It’s beyond a little F’d up. So until we get some good news, WE shall react in whatever way we deem fit!

      • ed

        RIPILLA (Great Name BTW?) I’m certain you are so much more a fan than I … troll? sure. Just because you and your buddies post you incoherent “predictions” and they don’t come to fruition, I have to sift through that non-sense to read updates. React however you like, but your commitment to this forum is not directly tied to your knowledge of Eagles football … so do us a favor keep that in mind when you assert that I should go hang out on Lawlor’s site. I bet you were a die-hard Vick supporter too – were you one of the guy’s droning on about how Foles wasn’t the answer? How’d that work out.

        • RIP illa

          Sigh, I tried being polite.
          OK, In an attempt to defend yourself from being a troll, you’ve done nothing but enforce the fact that that’s all you are. Your whole response shows you to be nothing but a POS, who decided to TROLL this thread instead of providing any substance to support your original post, or contribute at all.
          Allow me to deconstruct.

          1) You would understand my name if you were around longer.

          2) Never did I claim to be more of a fan, nor did I attack you “fandom”.

          3) I’m not so sure what’s so incoherent about the so called “predictions” posted, but that’s neither here nor there. Fact is that the vast majority of posters here, bring up and discuss players that we would like to see here and/or think that can help the team.

          4) Why do you have to sift through anything??? There’s in thread updates posted, regularly, from the authors of the article. Despite that, the same people that you condemn as having “incoherent predictions”, are the same people who post the updates that you admittedly seek…You disrespectful fuck!

          5) I’m glad now I can react however I like…especially since your original comment was in direct opposition.

          6) Commitment vs Knowledge??? SMH, who the fuck even broached the subject?!

          7) Assertion vs Suggestion…Learn the difference asshole!

          8) Sorry, but all the die hard Vick supporters are gone. But yes I did support Vick over Foles. 99% of the time I will support a player that has proven more in the league than a player who has not or who is less proven or until he proves to be better. But you can go back and look through my posts to accurately see the caveats of the discussions or you can just stick to your asinine blanket statements and remain ignorant. Your choice.

          • ed

            yawn

          • ed

            I especially enjoyed your “sigh”

  • Tim

    If Ward signed for 5.5/yr then we should be able to get Byrd at 8/yr, which is reasonable considering past projections. Not sure how the Saints would be able to outbid us if we truely are interested.

  • botto

    byrd is a health concern, maybe not the best bet after all.
    jenkins is good, no worries

    • peteike

      no hes not

    • Michael

      What is different between Jenkins and Allen?

      • Mr. Wu

        they have different names

        • Michael

          Zing!

        • aub32

          I prefer Nate over Malcolm. Malcolm is a stupid name. You know what’s a really cool name? Jairus. Now that’s original. We should sign that guy for his cool and original name.

          • Eagledelphia

            and his last name is Byrd cant get much more of a sign than that

          • Mr. Wu

            hey now…my sons name is Malcolm

          • aub32

            Really? I meant it’s a stupid name for a NFL safety. Now for a doctor, lawyer, or president it’s an excellent name.

          • Mr. Wu

            lol…Well thats good because he is 8 and he really does believe he is going to be president….poor kid

          • oreofestar

            Parents need to know when they are naming their kids that if they want to be NFL player you got to name him Jairus

          • oreofestar

            That is actually an amazing name so is Terrell way better than Mike and Malcolm (sorry Mr.Wu)

          • peteike

            but is it pronounced Terrell or Terrell

          • oreofestar

            It does not matter cuz he aint an Eagle

    • Eagledelphia

      no he is not good hopefully he proves me wrong but until then he is trash

      • mrparabolic

        You misspelled Negadelphia.

        • Eagledelphia

          Not one statistic or test says he is any good hey I hope he turns out to be the Ronnie Lott and Ed reed and Dawkins but I think its safe to say we know what we will get and that is a below average to average safety for two years and then he is gone

    • oreofestar

      Do not dare compare Jenkins to Byrd, you are so disrespectful

      • NickS1

        Slow down, Steven A

    • RIP illa

      Do guys like you try and and fact check before posting, or just spout out BS. And even if he was a health concern…Howie has a long history of signing health concerns.

    • JofreyRice

      Yeah, healthy as a horse. Call it Lorenzo Booker syndrome. Shittiest players are never nicked up. Always ready to go out there and hurt the team.

  • NickS1

    “Sometimes I just want to jerk the wheel into a BRIDGE EMBANKMENT!”

  • oreofestar

    Oh Giants lost Joseph to the Vikes

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    Ahmad Bradshaw re-signs with Colts

    • Javi Echie

      Keep the info coming brother my job computer doesn’t let me access too many websites but this is one of them and you are just all over the new things going on. Thank you much sir

    • Mr. Wu

      Terry Bradshaw resigned with the Steelers

      • Javi Echie

        So does Ben get to hold the clipboard now?

        • Mr. Wu

          idk…but lets hope they Ben doesnt run into him in a bathroom stall

          • Javi Echie

            actually for Terry’s sake he should be the one hoping he doesn’t run into Ben in the bathroom

  • peteike

    Im sensing the bitterness setting in

    • oreofestar

      Only Bitterness?

  • NickS1

    I’m guessing Howie is unaware that none of us are fans of Malcolm in the middle.

  • oreofestar

    Please God I love you, I go to church every Sunday and have been an Eagles fan since my birth please bring Jairus to Philadelphia, tell him to come just like you “told” Reggie to leave please please

  • NickS1

    Howie’s batting average reflects the guy hitting 8th in the lineup right now.

    • YEP12

      Or same as entire phillies line up

  • All Things Bad@ss

    “How Come” and “Malcolm” rhyme. Coincidence?

  • aub32

    So jairus going to NOLA only makes me want him in an eagles uniform even more. I mean what a nice guy. He’s going all the way to NO just to let them no in person that they should stop whatever crazy cap maneuver they were planning because he’s planning on taking his talents to the city of brotherly love.

  • oreofestar

    Eagles resign Kurt Coleman to 4 year $40mil deal, Eagles also signed Antoine or however the hell you spell his name Cason for 4 years $33mil and he is starting and we are trading for Brandon Weeden Nick Foles is too good a player and we do not like good players!!!!

    • eaglesfanqc

      Damn take ur pills and calm down… Byrd isn’t sign yet

      • oreofestar

        I aint taking no damn pills

        • Andy124

          I believe we’ve identified the problem…

          • oreofestar

            I am just stressed out man, I was praying and hoping for a Byrd signing today

  • oreofestar

    PLease Byrd, Ware join us and I shall forgive Howie for his wrong doings

  • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

    Byrd or Allen, please
    Thank g-d it’s not Jenkins/Mitchell

    Mike Mitchell to the Steelers. Eagles probably still looking for another starter at safety. Who's left: Byrd, Clemons, Nate Allen.— Brandon Lee Gowton (@BrandonGowton) March 11, 2014

    • JofreyRice

      never imagined I’d be praying they could reel in Nate fucking Allen. Travesty.

  • Javi Echie

    Mike Mitchell to the Steelers is a done deal, scratch him off the list

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      thank you baby jeebus

    • peteike

      who was better option, Jenkins or Mitchell? or both similar?

      • Javi Echie

        I honestly would have preferred Jenkins cause at least he has been decent in his career to wheres Mitchell never did anything until playing behind one of the best front sevens in the game last year

      • oreofestar

        I would take Jenkins over Mitchell easy, I do not hate Jenkins or anything but he sure as hell better not come in as the number one safety

  • oreofestar

    YEEEEEEES!!!!!! MIKE MITCHELL BYE BYE WATCHA GONNA DO NOW HOWIE TJ GONE DONTE GONE BETHEA GONE, MITCHELL GONE HAHA!!!!

    • George

      byrd or allen… hope its the former

      • oreofestar

        Get the hell out of my face with Allen, I hope Detroit takes him and someone takes Clemons and some random team takes Ihedigbo and then it is done

        • NickS1

          Not writing off Ihedigbo.

          • oreofestar

            I am

  • aub32

    Did the skins get a safety?

  • Joe Thomas

    Man Clemons better sign with someone fast, force Howie’s hand

  • oreofestar

    I am still having trouble can someone give me a link to all the updates

  • UKEagle99

    Everyone saying what a ‘good guy’ Jenkins is, should of just converted Avant to safety and saved a few bucks.

    • oreofestar

      Jairus is an amazing guy have you seen him play?

      • UKEagle99

        Yes, I’m not saying I would have preferred either to the Byrd man, fingers are still crossed. It ain’t over until he signs on the dotted line.

  • NickS1

    Can someone get Jairus off the plane to NOLA?

    • peteike

      cheesesteak > po boy

      • Andy124

        Blind Chow siting!

        And cheesesteak >>>>>>>>>> po boy

        • ACViking

          A124:

          where’d you’d see “the Chow”?

          • Andy124

            He upvoted peteike’s post. Can see it if you hover over the ’10′

    • oreofestar

      I hope Howie is in NOLA waiting for him and then he is like SURPRISE!!!

  • botto

    Jenkins is the MAN!
    look out

  • Brian

    Why don’t the haters just line up at the Novacare complex, and Boo Jenkins upon arrival. I seem to recall something similar in our past, and that worked out great. SMH Jairus Byrd isn’t going to win us a Superbowl. I’d like to have the best available, but it doesn’t always work that way.

    • oreofestar

      It is not Jenkins fault, he is average which means he is the best safety we have had since Mikell but Brian sometime average is not good enough especially when the best safety in the league is available and his price is falling I am not angry about Jenkins I am angry about no Byrd this is our chance man if you do not think Byrd could help us win the bowl than Jenkins sure as hell aint getting us there

      • bsn

        Byrd isn’t the best safety in the NFL.

        • oreofestar

          I think he is but even if you disagree you can not argue that Byrd is not top 5 which is a lot more than I can say for Jenkins

      • Brian

        As long as Byrd hasn’t been signed, the Eagles could be the ones to sign him. We’ve seen this before, with big time free agents that want to make the rounds. Time will tell.

        • PaoliBulldog

          Time just told.

          • Brian

            Yes it did. 6 year deal. That’s a lot of time.

  • oreofestar

    I have yet to say anything bad about Howie because I still hope he will bring in the big name DB that we need but I am disappointed at the moment

    • UKEagle99

      I’m more concerned about our rush, I don’t see where any upgrade is coming, including the draft and last year it just wasn’t good enough.

      • oreofestar

        Our safety depth chart right now is just Jenkins who is average and Wolff who has yet to prove anything if going into the draft Jenkins is the number 1 safety I got a problem

        • UKEagle99

          Yeah, we’ll have to see what happens there, news on Allen is quiet, they may just bring him back, if he wants to come back that is!

          I can see them kicking the tyres on Ware and him possibly sharing snaps with Cole. If he has anything left and can stay healthy he’d be an upgrade on the edge.

          • oreofestar

            It is disgusting to me that we are talking about Allen when there is a free Byrd

          • UKEagle99

            Agreed

        • RIP illa

          Really O??? How could you forget Keelan Johnson!!! Come on man. We’re set! :-)

          • oreofestar

            Oh yeah I am sorry he fits what Howie likes….not good

  • oreofestar

    Bears released Peppers, not that we have interest just thought I would throw that out there

  • Token

    So fill me in

    from what I gather….. The Brocos signed TJ Ward for about the same as we got Malcolm friggin Jenkins for?

    And the Saints want Byrd to replace the bad safety we just got from them. How can they afford anything?

    • RIP illa

      Pretty much. We did resign Donnie “Long Ball” Jones. :-)

      • Andy124

        Stay calm. We’ve got Kinne.

      • oreofestar

        Only good player we signed

        • RIP illa

          True. Don’t jump yet man. Just give Jenkins a chance to prove himself in this D. And if he doesn’t…then we’ll go all torches and pitchforks.

          PSA: This is in no way supporting the signing. We just can’t afford to lose anymore good Eagles Fans!

          • oreofestar

            If he is the number 1 safety on the depth chart much longer than I aint waiting for him to play before I jump

    • oreofestar

      Saints will not get him they would go crazy cutting to even try, TJ Ward basically took less to go to a competitor and from what I have heard Eagles did not even give him an offer, also Eagles overpaid for Jenkins

      • Token

        TJ Ward isnt in a position to take less, thats BS. This is his payday. That was his market value.

        Eagles didnt want a box safety, ok I guess. I could live with it. If it means they like Byrd.

        But to like Jenkins over both of them? WTF?

        The only thing im clinging hope to is that Byrd isnt gonna get near what he wants. Maybe much lower. Visiting the Saints tells me the interest out there isnt that great IMO. Howie could snag him for well under what we thought. Maybe. Hopefully.

        Byrd AND Jenkins I can be good with. Jenkins AND another bum I dont find appealing. Side step. Lateral move.

        • oreofestar

          I agree the Ward stuff is BS but he signed for so little that is the only explanation, Eagles better sign Byrd and Jenkins and anyone left on the market besides Byrd is not appealing to me whatsoever

        • saftely

          Sadly, Byrd will not sign anywhere “on the cheap.” Reports have his offer from the bills still on the table and it’s reportedly in the ~8m per season range for many years.

          • oreofestar

            I doubt they would still offer that after the Aaron Williams deal

        • Eagles1018

          Something tells me Nate Allen gets re-signed on like 3/6 kinda deal. I mean if Michael Johnson or Lamarr Houston was still out there I could say yeah Jenkins makes sense. But we have the most money of any contender, the saints won’t have the room to sign him unless they get rid of more good players out there and the redskins aren’t competing this season realistically. I hope this means they’re waiting for Revis to get cut and bring him in….please……..

    • RIP illa

      And we cut Chung!

      • Andy124

        Addition by subtraction.

        Sorry Patrick.

      • oreofestar

        I am surprised I thought Howie liked guys of that skill level, I thought he would only cut him if he was a top tier safety like that kid from Buffalo he won’t sign

    • saftely

      TJ ward is a great safety because he’s great playing in the box, a team playing a 3-4 should not need a safety who’s primary talents are against the run. Yes, I know, many people say his skill in coverage is “underrated” but with the level of skill we have in the defensive back field (slim to none) we really need a coverage guy. Jenkins, being originally drafted as a cornerback, is a better cover guy.

      • Token

        Jenkins sucks. My god. People will blow anything Spadaro tells them to. Im sure Lawlor is a big fan too.

        • oreofestar

          He is settling I am not settling I want Byrd

        • Stuart Philp

          He’s a good slot corner!

          • Token

            If your being sarcastic im sorry. But no hes not.

            I see that thrown around all the time. Just because he was a corner coming out of college doesnt mean hes a good corner.

          • Stuart Philp

            Hah yeah, a lot of stories are saying that. He’s decent running routes with a receiver, but his awareness and tackling don’t seem to be that great. Maybe he can be coached up, Allen certainly improved last year.

      • oreofestar

        Ward is still a better cover guy than Jenkins and he has amazing run defense to go with it

    • Eagles1018

      Ward got 4 yrs 23 mil (about 5.75 per year). Jenkins got 3 years 16.5 (about 5.3 per year).

      • Stuart Philp

        Ward got 14 guaranteed, Jenkins got 8.5. We don’t know how the years are split (front or back loaded, evenly), or what incentives are in there. I doubt all of Jenkins is straight base pay. Guessing ~4 mil per year + performance incentives.

        • Eagles1018

          Do you like the Malcolm Jenkins signing?

          • oreofestar

            no

          • Stuart Philp

            I think we overpaid, but I’m okay with it otherwise. We need to find another better player in the draft or if we can get Byrd for a decent price since Ward went for cheap

    • Ark87

      I’m wondering if ward didn’t take his highest offer in favor of signing with a team that has a great shot at the superbowl. Big pay days is a common event on day 1 of FA, especially fresh after the cap raise.

      I guess I’m saying a) if we were interested in ward, and outbid the Broncos, I’m not so sure he’d take it. Years playing in Cleveland with no QB, fixed that problem, all set to dominate the AFC. Real shot at getting to the superbowl.

  • mksp

    $14 MM guaranteed for TJ Ward. $5.5 MM more than Jenkins got.

    • oreofestar

      Jesus…..

    • Token

      Im not even a big Ward fan. But wow did the Eagles overpay. One guy is a pro bowler and the other is a bottom tier safety.

      • G_WallyHunter

        I wonder what made them offer that. How the hell did they not have a feel for the market… Damn

        • Token

          Howie got fleeced. Just like the Cary Williams signing last year. We will look back on this one and wonder when the hell we can get out of it.

          • oreofestar

            If they sign Byrd all is forgiven but until then Howie has disappointed

          • Token

            Yea especially at the price they could prolly get Byrd for right now. It would be like stepping in shit for Howie. Just lucking into a good move.

            Byrd, bum, bum looks much better than bum, bum, bum.

          • oreofestar

            Indeed I have no problem with Jenkins as the number 2 safety despite being overpaid but if he is the guy then I got a problem and considering we might be able to snag Byrd for 8mil a season we gotta

          • G_WallyHunter

            this is Howies “Batting Average but we’ll still overpay you as if it’s not a batting average approach” strategy
            Worked last year with CW

          • oreofestar

            How about the PAY A STAR MONEY HE DESERVES strategy

          • G_WallyHunter

            my guess is 2 years, 8.5 over 2 guaranteed.. can get out of it after yr 2, hopefully he actually plays well this year with Wolff/Whoever and it doesn’t look so bad.
            Why didn’t he COME IN WITH 3yr 13-14 MIL????
            Why 16.5
            We should get full contract structure details before making more conclusions and jabs at it

  • oreofestar

    I guess I have ranted enough today but God am I pissed…

    • LeClaw

      Are you shocked by your current state? I am not surprised at all, Bryd is way to pricey
      Plus guys Jenkins is solid, minimal mistakes safety a la Cary Williams

      • Nfl All Day

        Duuuuuuuuude. Go on any Saints forum and all you’ll see is “so long Jenkins. Glad he’s gone!” By solid you must mean STIFF.

    • Nfl All Day

      At least you didnt jump, and that’s saying something considering the turn of events.

  • oreofestar

    Cowboys releasing Ware and Austin guess they got enough for Melton

  • Joe Thomas

    They gotta sign another saftey. They could like Clemons size, or Ryan Clarks vetern presence, he is from that steelers D Davis loves so much. DeCoud i think from atlanta might be a guy they look at. It could be anyone really.

    • oreofestar

      or they could look at Byrd

    • Token

      Well they all suck.

      Then theres Byrd,.

      • Joe Thomas

        He is the best of the bunch. Hopefully Philly will be stop two. Looks like they wanted Mitchell, before the Steelers got him, maybe Howie falls back on Bryd

        • oreofestar

          hopefully

      • Nfl All Day

        You are the voice of the people. Dont let anyone tell you different.

  • oreofestar

    Redskins are paying $8.25mil a season on Roberts and Riley which brings there cap down to like $12mil and they still have a lot of holes on both lines and in the secondary I think it is safe to say they are out of the Byrd race

    • Nfl All Day

      If that were the case he wouldnt be in NOLA right now. They have even less to spend. Where theres a will…….HEAR THAT HOWARD……A WILL!….You gunshy SoB!

      • oreofestar

        I have no idea why he is there maybe the Saints are like well no one else will sign him I guess we should look

        • Nfl All Day

          He must be asking a ton, or he’s the one guy who honestly is looking for the right situation.

          • oreofestar

            I think it is probably a combo of both, he wants to get a lot of dough but they only teams willing to give it are the bad ones he may be waiting for a good team to pony up like the Eagles maybe because he would definitely come here if Howie would just give him Eric Berry money

  • Matt

    What do you guys think about signing someone like Revis(if he’s released) or Verner for anywhere from 8-12mil and cutting Cary Williams saves 6mil so we get a shutdown corner for pretty much 4-6mil so we don’t have to rely so much on our bad safeties

    • oreofestar

      Or Howe could sign Byrd!!!

    • G_WallyHunter

      100% approve this. I know cutting fletch is 3mil savings.. 0 dead
      cutting CW is what savings? And I’m pretty sure there’s some dead money there too
      If Revis could be had for (like I’ve said 3 or 4 times today) 4 yr 46-48 mil with 14-16 guaranteed over 2-3 seasons…… then I’m all for it.. but that’s a very hopeful contract for him. It would require that he takes a little less money to play for a team that has a ton of potential to do something in the next 4 years. He would have to sacrifice dollars for wins and a potential championship.

      Some have said on here that he is a cancer, a me-first diva (no one actually knows if he’s a locker room cancer behaviour-wise, but we know he’s been a little selfish the last few years), my point is what if he’s changed? Maybe this TB situation has been humbling, and going on 29, he wants to settle for a good team and organization that won’t screw him around. Again, I know how hopeful this is. He did collect his sweet 16mil last year, so he’s not hurting for cash.

      I say get him if the contract I said can SOMEHOW be worked out..

      • oreofestar

        I would much rather have Byrd than a 12mil corner and cutting C Will gets you 3mil in cap with 3mil dead money, not worth it IMO

        • G_WallyHunter

          You want Byrd? you don’t say..
          I thought you were a huge Ward supporter

          • oreofestar

            I was always the Byrd guy I said that if we got Ward I would still be pleased though but Byrd is all that I want now!

          • G_WallyHunter

            shoulda put the Sarcasm tag lol you’ve mentioned Byrd in every post I think

      • Matt

        I totally agree I think if you’ve got a corner that you can rely on to shut a guy down it makes it easier on both the safeties and the other corner since they can focus more on the other recievers which would make our pass defense much better.

        • G_WallyHunter

          He takes a damn side of the field plain and simple. As someone (maybe Token) stated today, people don’t realize how important an elite CB still is. Their franchise tags speak to it. The value in being able to take a top-10 Receiver out of the game… GET REVIS

          • NickS1

            While I understand Revis is a great corner, but hasn’t he always had some above average safety play behind him? It may not mean anything toward his game, but it surely doesn’t hurt it.

          • oreofestar

            I think Revis is a great CB but he is gonna be damn expensive and want t least what Asom. got might as well get Byrd for 8.5mil a season

          • G_WallyHunter

            Well TB, yes he had very good S coverage.
            Who was in NY? Jim Leonhard for a bit I know that, Laron Landry for the year he tore his ACL?
            Hopefully Jenkins and Wolff/Whoever could live up to the average-above average play..

          • NickS1

            Didn’t he have Kerry Rhodes, too?

          • G_WallyHunter

            I thought Rhodes played in Arizona before he was released, never in NY

          • NickS1

            Played for the Jets before the Cards…. and I think Revis has generally had a solid pass rush as well. Always helps. Doesn’t have that luxury here, or good safety play. Guess we’d see how good he really is if he came aboard.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Good point ya, I think we’ll have a sufficient front7 for him this year around, but ya he had a top1 or 2 D for a few years… it would be quite the test. I’m starting to sway away from him, just not worth the money and I really like what we got going right now

          • Nfl All Day

            Our corners ended the year by shutting down Dez, Brandon Marshall & Alshon, Colston, and Jimmy Graham. We don’t need Revis.

          • G_WallyHunter

            indeed you have a point I can not argue to there.
            damn
            I’m not saying we necessarily need an elite CB, but just if the opportunity was there. I agree that CW and BF are good enough, then with Boykin it just improves it by A LOT..

      • Nfl All Day

        That’s such a waste of money. Our corners are good enough. Give them support over the top and some pressure, and they’ll be able to play to their strengths more. Jamming, instead of 10 yards off the WR for fear they get beat deep. Revis needs to bring his price down and fit into a contenders plans and price range, or he can keep on getting paid big money by weak teams and miss the playoffs a few more years.

        • G_WallyHunter

          it is a waste of money looking at the 46-48, but we all know that number doesn’t matter, it’s the 14-16 over 3 years that takes more weight. It’s a contract that would have to be heavily team friendly, and we all know Revis isn’t up for that. I know there’s 0% chance to get him, just saying if the opportunity arose and somehow he wanted to come here, maybe he likes what’s going on (along with many other players in the league, such a great intangible), why not whip up another contract like that.

          He’s no stranger to team-friendly deals, even though that was a prove-it year. Do you think after last year he’s all the sudden going to demand 15-20mil guaranteed? Maybe he wants to PLAY FOR HIS MONEY just like he did successfully last year, which makes for a Howie-friendly contract….
          I KNOW Y’ALL ITS HOPEFUL

          • oreofestar

            I like Revis but he will be SOOOO EXPENSIVE that is my only gripe

          • G_WallyHunter

            And it’s a good one, he will be, plus when you think of all the suitors that will line up. Just…. no
            If the safety play improves and CW and BF play as good or better, with Boykin in on as many god damn snaps as possible, then this secondary should be a decent unit. Depends heavily on Safety play (big surprise there)

          • oreofestar

            Get Byrd to go with Jenkins and Wolff and watch how much better Fletch and C Will play

          • G_WallyHunter

            YUP

    • Nfl All Day

      You’ve missed the moral today. We don’t do those kind of deals anymore. Got bit once upon a time by a chick whos name started with 2 N’s. Now we only date girls in the 4-6 range.

      • NickS1

        Howie just drinks before the meeting then turns the light out when negotiating so it’s not as bad as it seems.

  • Nfl All Day

    Wish one of you real photoshop savvy types would make me a meme of Howie Roseman whipping off his mask and revealing that Ruin Tomorrow Jr. had repossessed his body, becaise this is obvoisuly what has happened.

  • cheapmeat

    How much does Peppers have left in the tank? We do need someone that can get to the QB…

    • oreofestar

      We will not touch him, promise just forget him

      • JReamer

        Forget who…

        • oreofestar

          Peppers, just forget the idea

          • JReamer

            Didn’t want him anyway.

    • JReamer

      Peppers or Ware?

    • Joe Thomas

      Much rather have Ware

      • cheapmeat

        Really? Isn’t Ware a much larger injury risk vs Peppers?

        • pjcostello

          Peppers is a 4-3 DE… Ware is a 3-4 OLB. Ware is a far better fit for the Eagles.

  • oreofestar

    I am little bit calmer not than the craziness that has been the last few hours I still have hope for Byrd although the chances are much slimmer, we will see though

  • oreofestar

    I still love Howie but it seems that everyones mood towards him has changed to being far more negative and Byrd can remedy that in a heartbeat

  • cliff henny

    How great would it be to see Ware, unblocked, blindside Romo, break his F’N back in 2…right on the star at Jerry’s World

    • JReamer

      Fan-freakin-tastic.

  • Goombachiphi

    I know we can’t say exactly, but what kind of cap hit will this jenkins contract inflict?

    • cliff henny

      4.5m average, give or take some over 2yrs. he’ll never see 3rd yr

      • oreofestar

        yeah no way he gets to year 3

        • cliff henny

          it’s the Howie special #2. guy has2 contracts for FA. other, 2 yrs, 2nd yr has off-set language.

      • Goombachiphi

        thanks, leaves us in a pretty comfortable cap situation. We could still cut James casey right? If so we’ve got plenty to spend, and save for next year.

        • cliff henny

          about 21m. still can get 9m more if need be with minor moves. there’s f’n money! someone better get sign that’s a difference maker.

  • Eagles1018

    Long shots (in order)

    1. Revis
    2. Peppers
    3. Jared Allen
    4. D Ware
    5. Byrd

    In that order…….

    • oreofestar

      SO theres a chance

      • Eagles1018

        Yes, Lloyd Christmas…

    • cliff henny

      please reverse that order..for my mental health

      • oreofestar

        I think he means Brd being most likely and Revis being the longest shot

        • cliff henny

          oh…well, think anyone that wants more than 2 yrs and paid over 5m is a long shot

    • Adam

      I’ll take names I recognize from Madden for $500, Alex

  • Spruce Goose

    Byrd to the Saints.

  • Corey

    HOW IN THE HELL CAN THE SAINTS AFFORD TO SIGN BYRD????

    • oreofestar

      they signed him?!?!?

      • Corey

        apparently done deal

        • oreofestar

          what!!!!

          • Corey

            It’s BS, 2 million of free cap space and they make it happen.

  • 609to336 Eagles

    How did the Saints afford him?????

    • JReamer

      I despise the saints.

      • 609to336 Eagles

        So do i…..How did we let him go? Please don’t tell me Nate Allen is coming back

  • oreofestar

    How were the Saints able to sign Byrd and we couldn’t

  • cliff henny

    verner went for 4 yrs 26m 14m guaranteed….Howie is sitting on his ass!

    • oreofestar

      to who?

      • EaglesFanInPhx

        bucs

        • oreofestar

          He is only making $1mil more than F***ing Cary Williams!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • DharmaBum

        Tampa

    • NickS1

      Unbelievable. WTF is Howie doing. Other than relying on Chip to put up 40/game…

      • RIP illa

        He stated last season that that was pretty much the plan. Looking back at SB winners quote and such. Problem with that is, that SB winners and playoff winners favor D more than O.

        • NickS1

          Exactly. Curious what this draft is about to turn into.

  • 609to336 Eagles

    Rob Ryan is smiling…Vaccaro and Byrd

  • oreofestar

    The Saints has 22mil less than us and did not need a safety half as bad as us and somehow…. I am jumping

  • DharmaBum

    Byrd, six years to the Saints. So, we get the guy they don’t want, in return for the guy we needed…f$%&ing priceless.

  • cliff henny

    it’s 6 yr deal for Byrd….yeah, Eagles weren’t going that deep, ever

    • Adam

      They’re gonna have over/around third of their cap tied up in 3-4 guys. Good luck, NO.

      • Stephen Stempo

        yeah. Saints look as if they’re building for the next 1-2 years followed by.. not good things.

        • Adam

          What?! Jerry Jones thinks that’s a great idea!

      • cliff henny

        byrd wanted paid. I gotta see wards numbers…if that 5.5m /yris true,i’m going from team panic to team desperate to team fuckingpissedoff in 3hrs

        • NickS1

          I’m on #teamfuckingpissedoff already.

    • NickS1

      6 = 4 where Howie’s concerned. I’m not buying that. What are the dollars?

      • cliff henny

        not released, bet ugly though

        • oreofestar

          If it is something ridiculous like 6 year 40mil I swear… it better be the fattest most ugly looking deal I have ever seen

  • PaoliBulldog

    The cap-flush Eagles sign Malcolm Jenkins and the cap-strapped Saints sign Byrd. I am repressed.

  • oreofestar

    I….

    • aub32

      Farewell dude

    • NickS1

      Don’t do it, man. It’s not worth it.

      • oreofestar

        but… I…

  • DharmaBum

    So, let me get this straight. We are coming out of FA with 3 safeties on our roster — Jenkins, Wolff, and Keelen Johnson. I have that correct, right? So, we are actually WORSE off, as a result of free agency, so far? Am I missing something?

    • oreofestar

      We basically swapped Nate Allen and Patrick Chung for Jenkins….wow

      • borntosuffer

        So far. Although, there doesn’t appear to be a whole lotta upside left

      • DharmaBum

        Don’t forget Colt Anderson. We got worse! WTF even knows what Keelan Johnson has?

      • cliff henny

        Clemons?

        • NickS1

          Him and DeCoud are about all that’s left….oh, and Kerry Rhodes lol.

          • DharmaBum

            I’d almost welcome Rhodes at this point. The only thing I can reasonably think of, is a trade. Maybe we’ll trade Graham and a pick for a safety. Anyone care to throw out some possible candidates?

          • Adam

            My buddy’s franchise on Madden

          • NickS1

            Can’t say I do. Didn’t think a trade would be necessary since, you know, that whole free agency thing started.

        • oreofestar

          I cant take this

          • Stephen Stempo

            lol

        • RIP illa

          We basically dont have a choice now. Although they have thrown away the logic of going after the best available players…who else is left besides Clemons?

          • cliff henny

            Raphael bush…that’s it

          • RIP illa

            Who??? I kid. Would rather have Clemons over him. But I don’t think they like Clemons, so you’re probably right. The DB market evolved in a very strange way this year in FA. And it’s amazing to see how aggressive teams were to lock up Safeties. Howie used to be aggressive, but in a different way. He normally doesn’t come out swinging and usually waits for the market to set itself. This makes me think that Jenkins was truly our 1st choice as reports have said. Kinda Sad.

            Good news…Jimmie Ward had an excellent pro day! We need him to get his weight up tho.

    • Mr. Wu

      dont worry we will sign nate allen so he and jenkins will be around 9 mil a year…sweet right?

  • Aussie Eagle

    Byrd to NO… how can they afford him? Bet Jimmy Graham is beyond pissed…

  • PaoliBulldog

    Mitchell to Steelers. Otay.

  • Corey

    I was worried this would happen. Howie sat on his hands just to prove a point. “You don’t see the packers going crazy in free agency, and oh golly I would love to be like the packers.”

    • Stephen Stempo

      yes that’s the case…

  • aub32

    DA FAQ????

  • Stephen Stempo

    dear lord do we really need to deal with this now? all the jumpers upset we didn’t overpay for a safety? on the first day of free agency…

    • Mr. Wu

      well we did overpay for a safety on the first day of FA

      • Stephen Stempo

        did we? I wonder in 2 years which deal will be regarded as worse. OR which team will be up against the cap because of it.

        • Mr. Wu

          ward or jenkins? are you a betting man?

          • Stephen Stempo

            I assumed we were jumping off a bridge over byrd but sure. consider me uninterested in all this stupid shit. We’ll see in jult what the roster looks like I’m not going to waste my breath panicking like a “fan.”

          • Mr. Wu

            I ain’t jumping off anything….just making common sense observations. Ward got basiacally the same money as Jenkins then Byrd went to the team that unloaded their trash on us….I mean look at jenkins record….its numbers dude…simple math.

            also why would anyone waist their time on here if you are not a “fan” i dont even understand that lmao

          • G_WallyHunter

            Lets hope tomorrows a brighter day in FA

          • Mr. Wu

            haha are you going to sing the song for Annie for us G….please dont

          • Stephen Stempo

            difference between fan and “fan.” A fan is someone who weighs things logically and roots for their team being critical after information has been gathered. A “fan” is the type of person the Listens to Mike Misanelli and thinks “there’s a logical level headed person.”
            Am I a bit dissapointed? yes? Am I going to go full on retard because of it? no.

          • Mr. Wu

            A fan is someone who weighs things logically and roots for their team being critical after information has been gathered.

            my thoughts exactly

      • NickS1

        Yup. The wrong safety, at that.

    • aub32

      I’m sorry do you see any upgrades at safety left available? They’re all gone. Sometimes you have to overpay for a guy. Btw ward did not get overpaid. Byrd went to a team with 2M in cap space.

      • Stephen Stempo

        ok. um. is it july?

        • phillyphanlvnv

          You must be one of those guys who gets excited watching guys college highlight reel and listening to Spadaro during Training Camp. I must say, what the Eagles have managed to do in terms of creating excitement among their fans is almost unbelievable. To make them all so excited for EVERY July as though that is when the Superbowl is played…

          • Stephen Stempo

            Dumb comment. Go root for the redskins they always get the best free agents.

          • phillyphanlvnv

            But nonetheless, VERY relevant. Stop worrying about what will happen by July. There is a reason teams go crazy during free agency. Because it DOES work.

          • Adam

            You really are FakeWIPCaller. Were you the Dolphins GM last year?

          • phillyphanlvnv

            No, but the ridiculous money handed to Percy Harvin and Cliff Avril last year by Seattle says an ENTIRELY different story. Get your facts strait. If you are really a team that is good at drafting players, then you need to spend your money to make sure you fill out the talent and when the time arrives to pay said players, cut the players no longer worth their salary designation. Simple truth is the Eagles will NEVER spend money to win as they claim they will. Even the Dream team, the Eagles STILL had salary cap to make a major move if they wanted too. They COULD HAVE paid DeSean and lessened a lot of that distraction, they could have traded for or drafted a much better LT than Bell. The Eagles made disastrous decisions that off season, and I am afraid this is more of the Reggie Brown mold of paying guys who probably don’t really deserve it.

      • Adam

        Just because the Saints are tight on the cap doesn’t mean they didn’t over pay for Byrd. They can, and will have to, make room. And they’re cap situation is going to be a nightmare.

    • phillyphanlvnv

      What a turd. You do realize that the only safety overpaid WAS Jenkins?! That’s like Carey Williams making just a million less than a pro bowl CB.

      • RIP illa

        Actually Cary’s due like 4. something mil this year. The rest was/is tied up in bonus money that has been paid. His cap hit or dead money (I get confused with those terms) comes out just north of 6 mil. Or at least that’s what I’ve read. But I totally understand and agree with your point.

  • aub32

    I can’t believe Howie really didn’t make a move. I mean he told us he wouldn’t, but who the actually believed we would walk away with only Malcolm Jenkins. Come On!!!

    • G_WallyHunter

      You speak for many of us, I see saints sign him, jesus, so mad about that. Vaccaro and him LOL

      • Corey

        I thought they already had 2 starting safeties?

      • oreofestar

        They have the second best safety tandem n the nfl with no money lol

  • EuropeanEagle

    Well I guess now it’s safe to assume they’ll go safety in the first two rounds.

    • Corey

      Nope, it’s a deep safety class so we’ll address it in round 5. Everyone likes saying safety is becoming a crucial position, but don’t tell Howie that.

      • oreofestar

        He is gonna undrafted a good safety is not his style

  • cliff henny

    got my pitchfork, heading to NovaCare Center…who’s with me?!

    • NickS1

      I’ll drive.

    • aub32

      I’ll meet you there. No one steals March Christmas and gets away with it.

      • cliff henny

        F U HOWIE….DO SOMETHING

        • Stephen Stempo

          lol is this sarcasm?

          • cliff henny

            half, but com’on, Jenkins as the answer. verner just went for 7m/per. ward 5.5m/per…he’s leaving some meat on the bone

          • Stephen Stempo

            there’s still a draft and possibly revis. Plus trade possibilities. Do we have to go insane on the first day of fa every year?

          • oreofestar

            No but everyones GONE!!!

          • cliff henny

            trade 4 who?

          • Stephen Stempo

            lol i dunno. just saying. Byrd is not on the same planet that brian dawkins was can we all stop pretending he was

          • cliff henny

            then how is it a viable option, or just talking out ass?

          • NickS1

            What’s insane is our handling of the safety position year in and year out since Dawk. You know, doing the same thing over again expecting a different result…

          • aub32

            Yes.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Swing by Canadia land

    • oreofestar

      I got my vest

  • EuropeanEagle

    By that I mean either one.

  • Javi Echie

    Can we sign one if these corners now revis, cromartie, walter thurmond, corey graham

    • NickS1

      With the current safeties, we might as well sign Revis and try the rest out at safety.

  • oreofestar

    Jesus Christs Howie I liked you…. how did you I… how did you let every one get away the only excuse you have is that you are going to get Revis

    • Stephen Stempo

      so is everyone trying to imitate fakewipcaller on here today?

      • cliff henny

        2 glaring holes…olb and safety. i’m ok w/ olb being in draft, generally are…but com’on, Jenkins? i’m pretty level headed fan, this is really bad. grab a corner atleast

        • Adam

          FREE AGENCY STARTED 6 HOURS AGO

          • cliff henny

            verner 2yr 14 m is a steal. all the top players are gone. who’s left?

          • Adam

            14 mil guaranteed is a steal? I guess we have different standards of steals. Then again, I’m Canadian.

          • cliff henny

            c-wills got10.5m. it’s funny money numbers, agree there

          • RIP illa

            That’s a great deal for a top rated corner. Especially with prices set to rise as the salary cap rises.

          • Stephen Stempo

            shhh you’ll ruin the narrative.

          • cliff henny

            enjoy the 5 mid tier players eagles sign. sorry we wanted 1, A impact free agent

          • cliff henny

            tell Howie, not us!

  • phillyphanlvnv

    LMAO at this front office. Build a team like the Seahawks just did. Yea, the team that just traded away a 1st round pick for a player who played like 3 snaps all season, before finally playing in the Superbowl. A team that wasn’t scared to go crazy during the off season and pay for Cliff Avril. A team not scared to cut bait on a 1st round bust (cough cough Brandon Graham). This team is going to be a laughing stock next season when they go up against a Green Bay team WITH Aaron Rogers, and a LOADED New Orleans, not to mention on schedule calling for us to go head to head with the ENTIRE NFC West. God Gawd.

    • Goombachiphi

      We cut a first round bust this year. shudder

    • NickS1

      Too early to panic like this. I’m as pissed as anyone about free agency, but pump the breaks.

      • oreofestar

        I will not go as far as this but if we do not bring in a big corner FA is a straight up bust

        • Stephen Stempo

          oh. good to know.

        • Adam

          So we’re skipping this draft this year

          • oreofestar

            Might as well they will trade out of the first round down to the 4th for the entire 7th round

          • Adam

            Great point. We’ve done that often since the Joe Banner era.

          • Stephen Stempo

            wait a minute I see what you did there he didn’t make a good point at all :)

          • oreofestar

            obviously I was venting until I saw contract terms

    • Stephen Stempo

      lol come on guys this is obviously fakewipcaller.

  • DAS

    Jairus Byrd just signed a 6 year deal with the Saints

    • Stuart Philp

      six-year, $54 million contract, including $28 million guaranteed

      • oreofestar

        I can not believe…

      • cliff henny

        oh, that softens blow some. he lost howie at 6 yrs

      • Will

        People seem to forget that we have to pay a bunch of our own players next year, including a quarterback. We all wanted Byrd, but none of us should be surprised…

  • cliff henny

    seriously, clemons or Raphael bush…who’s left? don’t get me started o Rhodes, not homophobic, but it wont be pretty

  • Corey

    It would be one thing if the Eagles had a top 15 pick, but they don’t. You really needed to fix safety now because everyone could be gone by 22, and this isn’t a draft you want to trade up in.

  • mksp

    Good lord. 6 years, $54 million, $28 million guaranteed for Byrd. Those numbers are INSANE.

    • Javi Echie

      Yea no way we were signing him for those numbers

    • HarmsWay

      Way insane. Holy crap!

    • Aussie Eagle

      Now can we all stop bashing Howie?

      • mksp

        Right???

      • Stephen Stempo

        lol come on man you know all of those “commentors” were sitting at their keyboard WAITING for Byrd to sign somewhere else. They couldn’t wait.

  • guest

    Byrd got A LOT of money. not mad at the eagles for not offering that

  • HarmsWay

    Jarius Byrd not going to hapoen. ESPN just reported he signed six year deal with the Saints.

  • Adam

    6 years. 28 mil guaranteed. I’m sorry, I love Byrd and wanted him but Saints can have him for that price.

    • NickS1

      Eases the pain… a little.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Damn, thats huge, good thing its looking like the deal that makes us scoff at and thank Howie for not making..

    • oreofestar

      I feel a tiny bit better maybe I won’t jump but the Verner deal does not sit with me

      • Adam

        We’ve been linked to Revis. I’m hoping something comes of that.

        • oreofestar

          As long as they do not over pay

          • Stephen Stempo

            unlike Jairus Byrd. Revis is the type of player you might overpay for.

          • oreofestar

            no, do not overpay

      • mksp

        Verner is not a good fit here. Does not play the style of CB that Chip & Billy want.

        He’s a cover-2 guy. Through and through.

    • Token

      Its 9 mil a year. Probably really backloaded. Lurie coulda wrote that check. But hey…. we have Jenkins. Cheap and available. See what the Saints did? Get rid of a bum like Jenkins and get a real safety. And they have no precious cap space.

      • Adam

        How do you backload 28 mil guaranteed?

      • oreofestar

        I hope Byrd does Terrible there

      • cliff henny

        28m guaranteed. mans w/ dead, least 4 yrs

        • NickS1

          So he’s paid through his prime. He has to be great for 2 more years and really good for 2 after that. Impossible? Far from it. GLARING hole for years now. Gotta Overpay sometimes.

          • Stephen Stempo

            You overpay for greatness not Very goodness. I think Byrd is Very good. He’s not a future HOFer. And for god sakes he’s not Brian Dawkins.

          • NickS1

            Well he’s been all-pro the last two years… no, he’s not Dawkins, league’s changed and Dawkins-types aren’t as necessary. Ballhawks, like Byrd, however, are worth paying for.

          • JofreyRice

            his #’s are HOF worthy, over his first 5 years in the league; very similar to Ed Reed. Obviously a big projection out over the rest of his career…I will say that the way he plays, he could be productive into his mid 30s.

          • cliff henny

            nope, not dawkins, don’t pay him…igglesblitz argument

        • NickS1

          10mil in signing bonus, year 6 is a restructure, tack on year. 6 mil in guaranteed salary next three years, walk after year 3 with 4mil in dead money if needed.

          • cliff henny

            these real or you guessing. cause I doubt they can take a 10m cap hit this year, which means yr 4will have a lot more dead

          • NickS1

            These aren’t real, my point is Howie could have structured this deal to make it work rather easily for us. While I don’t doubt Howie didn’t like these numbers, he thought about it. Thing is, with NO, they have to spread the guarantees out because of their shitty cap, which means he’s got the guaranteed longevity in NO, as opposed to just getting paid here for 3 and possibly out afterward, meaning he’ll see more of that deal in NO than here. The contract doesn’t bother me nearly as much as it did initially, though. Hell, the whole point of year 6 for NO is so they can restructure and move guarantees. This is textbook Jerry Cap Management.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Exactemon, Howie just lookin out 3+ years.. his limit is likely 3 years of guaranteed lol

          • cliff henny

            3, more like 2

          • oreofestar

            I think he would do 3 for the right guy

          • NickS1

            Pretty much. Is what it is.

          • cliff henny

            ok, true. NO, it’s 4 maybe 5yr contract.

          • NickS1

            Bingo.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Signing bonus is always prorated over contract life right or no?
            1.67 cap hit a year on sign bonus?

      • mksp

        Who cares how backloaded it is, $28 MM guaranteed is a massive number for a guy with health concerns.

    • JofreyRice

      not directed at you in particular, but I just have a hard time understanding why everyone is so concerned with money. These guys are making it hand over fist, and with the Saints as an example, the teams that are supposedly so hamstrung by the cap can still make the moves they really want to make. No, you don’t just spend money to spend it, but that’s not why you’d bring in a guy like Byrd anyway. You bring him in to get better.

      Byrd/Vaccaro is going to be sickening behind Ryan’s blitzing D. Byrd would have made the Eagles defense a lot better. He’s a far, far superior player to Malcolm Jenkins. That’s really my main concern. The Eagles worry about the cap enough, I don’t think it’s necessary to ring my hands about it, as well.

      I ended up being really impressed with Chip, and I’ve said I’ll have faith if they pass up both Ward and Byrd. This is a tough pill to swallow though. I’m going to be checking out how those guys shake out in their new spots; those are good, successful organizations. Letting those two guys slip through their fingers feels like a huge misstep.

      • Will

        NO realizes the importance of great safety play while we get there rejects….

        • Stephen Stempo

          oh

      • Stephen Stempo

        I’m confused when did Ward and Byrd become Eric Berry and Earl Thomas. We missed out on upgrades not centerpieces. Big upgrades based on what we have but I don’t think either guy would have made the Eagles wall of fame by the end of their tenure. Maybe byrd, but still.

        Also I have yet to believe that Rob Ryan is anything but a hack.

        • JofreyRice

          By any of the advanced analytics, both those guys are right up there with Berry/Thomas. I know they don’t have the name recognition, but they are there. That’s why they were the prize of free agency, and why Byrd re-set the antiquated thinking of paying safeties like shit.

          Byrd, particularly, can be used to play deep centerfield, which gives you a tremendous amount of flexibility in scheme and playcalling. Blitzes, run support, disruption of underneath routes–you know, like how Seattle’s defense dominated the Superbowl?

          Rob Ryan’s a good coach. The Eagles should have hired him back in 2010 when they promoted Castillo. Look at the turnaround in NO from the mess Spagnuolo left. Did you see all the creative stuff he had Vaccaro doing to disrupt QB’s? Jerry Jones came out and said what a mistake it was to let Ryan go, during the season (gotta love Jerry).

          • Stephen Stempo

            Jeryy Jones sure does have a knack for spotting coaching talent I’ll tell you that.

            I tell ya when I think of Rob Ryan I think of all those(1) good defense he coached over the years.

          • Stephen Stempo

            http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Rob-ryan-3.png

            Great Coach. just superb. Awesome talent. Amazing mind for the game. Not a hack at all.

            I take it all back.

          • JofreyRice

            yeah, those Raiders and Browns teams were titans. Amazingly talented. Stacked. And of course stat ranking year to year tells the whole story. That’s why Castillo is such a hot name for people looking for a D-coordinator. Would never want to actually look at the scheme he runs, or how his defense matches up with really good quarterbacks–that wouldn’t be helpful at all.

            Trying out the sarcasm thing, I see.

          • Stephen Stempo

            Well I’m looking at more than his last name.

          • Stephen Stempo

            We could also add to the fact that he’s one of the few coaches in the elite coompany of. “I’m such an asshole I cost my team a penalty.” type guys. Great character too.

          • JofreyRice

            So you can reference the meta stats for his defenses on a bunch of utterly shit teams, and you think he acts like a jerk. I think i get your argument, and not much of it has to do with the specifics of who he is as a D-coordinator right now. Glad we got that cleared up.

          • Stephen Stempo

            Really? You like Rob Ryan? and the only reason is because he had 1 good year with the saints? You’re telling me that he was just misunderstood before then?

            What stats would you like me to use? Go on pull out you’re tiny sample size stats i’d love to see them.

            Tell me that in games on mondays during a full moon against QB’s who’s names end in P-Z he has a 3-0 record.

            Tell me about how disciplined his teams have been in penalties.

            Tell me there is any reason you think he’s a good coach aside from being half made of Buddy Ryan’s sperm.

          • JofreyRice

            I like his overload blitzing and the way he disguises coverage, which, yes, do come from Buddy. I like that style of D. Pressure the QB into mistakes. Turnovers. And he’s had success against top QBs–Brady, Manning, Brees (when he’s faced them). Those are the guys you need to beat when it counts; don’t know if that counts as an “obscure stat” to you. To call that kind of defense, you have to have a feel for when to make those big decisions and you need the players to make it work. As we saw from McDermott, it’s not just step in and do it. You can look really, really bad when you guess wrong. The talent he has in NO is better than the awful squads in Oakland and Cleveland, point blank. Jerry Jones openly admits to meddling in his defense, trying to pressure him into using Claiborne in specific coverages.

            Beating top QBs in the playoffs takes the kind of creativity Ryan has shown. Amassing top 15 defense stats like Castillo’s defense did down the stretch in ’10 when they faced QB’s like JP Losman, Stephen McGee, Mark Sanchez and Matt Moore is fools gold, and shows you how you need context for stats. That was some run. The strength of those stats bought Castillo another year and prolonged the inevitable.

            At this point, whatever nepotism that opened a door for Rob Ryan has run it’s course. He’s working off the merits of his own resume. That’s why the Saints hired him, and that decision proved to be a pretty good one for them. When he said he’d have a job in 5 minutes he wasn’t lying. He’s not some “amazing world’s best D-coordinator” or whatever strawman argument you’re trying to craft for me, but he is a good defensive coordinator that just added another extremely talented player.

          • RIP illa

            Wow you actually put forth the effort to keep going with this. I’m impressed cuz I couldn’t do it. Very well put. However, you did fail to establish Ryan as being the greatest D-Cord ever and didn’t use enough numbers and stats in your response!!!
            :-)

          • RIP illa

            It’s too late man. He’s too far gone…most guys that cling to stats without context are.

          • Stephen Stempo

            Ok what’s the context that makes Rob Ryan a good defensive coordinator. He’s good, but just happened to coach for bad teams or had no talent. Maybe, or maybe if he was better at his job he would have found more talent. Please enlighten me on this love of the Ryan.

        • RIP illa

          Ok stop. I get that you’re trying to be anti-irrational (not to be confused with rational), but if you’ve seen Bryd play for an extended period of time, then there’s no questioning the dude’s talent, skill, and all around domination of the position. I’ve got to see him on tv a lot and live a lot and the dude is as real as it gets. And whether you’re a fan or “fan”, as you put it, or just pay attention to the league, then you’d know that Ryan is anything but a hack! Come on man, no need to take it to such drastic and untrue lengths.

          • Stephen Stempo

            Erm… Watching Football is exactly how i know ROB RYAN is a total hack. Let’s see until this last year his defenses have ranked in the top 10 in yards allowed… 1 times. His defenses have ranked in the top 10 in points allowed exactly.. 0 times. His defenses have been in the top 10 in takeaways exactly 0 times. Oh and until last year he has coached defense for teams that have gone better than 8-8 exactly 0 times. Please tell me how wonderful and amazing a Defensive Coordinator Rob Ryan is again.

          • RIP illa

            I’m sure organizational sturcture, player personnel, offensive production, field position, etc..etc, doesn’t fit into your vacuum of defensive stats…which are compiled in a vacuum themselves. Just as I’m sure that there is a very discernible difference in not being a hack vs wonderful and amazing. But whatevs…do what you gotta do to try and prop up your statements. Hence…”not to be confused with rational”!

            Edit: At least you backed off the nonsensical ramblings about Bryd. I credit JR with that tho.

          • Stephen Stempo

            So what you’re saying is that there’s a chance that Byrd might not be worth 9 million in a different organization or structure? Since everything you said can be easily applied to.. any situation.

            I’m not in love with the Ryan name. sue me. What else exactly do we need to be measuring him by? I mean I doubt the teams he was fired from didn’t have any of that information available to them either.

            Or are you implying that he’s only a good coach when he has great players? Like last year? Which would make him. Not as good a coach.

            Listen I overstate the Byrd thing a bunch just playing Devil’s advocate but you’re not seriously telling me that Rob Ryan is an amazing and gifted defensive Coordinator but it just took him 13 years to figure it out.

          • RIP illa

            Kid, this is so tiring. When you chose not to apply basic reading comprehension, there’s nothing left to discuss. When you choose to keep shifting the context in order to tip the scales in your favor, there’s nothing left to discuss. I’ve said what I had to and made the points I needed to make. Whether you chose to accept or acknowledge them is completely on you. Anything you say after this, if it follows along the same path that you have been going, would not be beneficial to either of us or anyone else reading.

          • Stephen Stempo

            Erm I don’t remember you making a point about Rob Ryan that was anything other than “he good yo.” I showed you some numbers. You didn’t like them because of their.. METAness or whateve. What you do in an argument at that point is come back with a rebuttal. Perhaps explaining explicitly why after Rob Ryan left the Browns they jumped up to a top 10 defense or you could try and point out how defensive rankings and great DC’s rarely coincide with each other.

            I stand by my statement and will add that not only is he a hack but his devil may care undisciplined attitude is the exact reason why he can have a few good years and several REALLY bad years. He doesn’t coach little things and relies totally on scheme. His great players are great and if you give him great players who can stay within themselves without strong coaching he can have a year, now and again, like he did last year. What you will get for the most part out of him is a defense that takes stupid penalties, lacks situational awareness, is overaggressive to a fault and take no responsibility.

          • Stephen Stempo

            I’ll await anything resembling an argument.

          • RIP illa

            LOL. Like I said.

      • Adam

        I don’t like missing out on them either, trust me. But I don’t have the “pay whatever costs” mantra that you do, and that’s fine. It’s a personal opinion. I don’t want to be handcuffed to him for that long paying him that much money. Football aside, Byrd chased the money and got paid. I think it’s a terrible contract and wouldn’t touch it with a 10 foot pole. But that’s me.

        No arguments from me that Byrd would have made the Eagles better and have made the Saints better.

        • oreofestar

          I wanted Byrd probably more than anyone but at 6 years 56mil I get it Howie aint giving that out, hopefully we have a plan though because Ward is gone too, trade?

        • JofreyRice

          I’m not sure I fully understand your opinion on the money thing. Why? If they can make it work with the cap–and presumably a team that starting the offseason at 23 mil under the cap can, if a team starting 15 over can–then what’s the objection? NO & Mickey Loomis are not Jerry Jones. They know what they’re doing. They have the hardware. Ditto on Denver. Is it just the principle of the matter, or do you think those contracts are really going to damage the franchise, long term?

          • NickS1

            They’re using the same textbook as Jerry. Build in restructure years, pray for cap increases to bail you out. NO just didn’t overpay for home talent. That’s the only difference.

          • oreofestar

            Yeah at least Jerry overpayed for his own guys to stay

          • JofreyRice

            but realistically, the cap obeys the league, to a certain extent. The NFL is not going to effectively lock down the growth of the cap. I think it’s pretty safe to assume that the cap will grow. There is only one painkiller-addled corpse-marionette piloting his franchise into the center of salary cap hell every year. Teams like the Steelers, NO, Packers, may get near the cap one year, and then have a little more space the next.

            My point is, for most franchises not run by Jerry Jones or Al Davis, it mostly comes out in the wash. You should just try to make your team better where you can, rather than worrying about being some huge number under the cap based on future projected contracts or whatever. Ugh. I don’t know.

          • Adam

            This deal will effectively eat that cap increase for the Saints the next few years. And they still need to deal with Graham. I imagine he’s not too impressed with this.

          • oreofestar

            Yeah if I am Graham I am pissed that Byrd is making more money than me on a 6 year deal that the refused to give me

          • JofreyRice

            Definitely a ballsy move. Could come back to bite them, or they could be just another team the Eagles can’t beat in the NFC.

          • Adam

            If they lose Graham to get Byrd, how much farther ahead are they really?

          • JofreyRice

            I would bet money they do not lose Jimmy Graham. I would bet an avatar. The guy is a transcendent offensive player. Not a chance.

          • Adam

            Something has to give..

          • oreofestar

            I do not know what but it will not be Graham, they are gonna be in hell soon though

          • Adam

            Graham just watched his team hand over a fat check over to a guy who has never played a snap for NO, yet he has more than earned it as a home grown talent but can’t get his deal. With the cap hell this team is about to be in, plus that slap in the face he just took, I’m not sure it’s safe to say he’s going to be willing to sign in NO. And if he is, he’s going to want a truck load of money (more than before probably), and I can’t see a way NO is going to be able to facilitate that.

          • JofreyRice

            I don’t know all the money specifics, but they can get rid of Sproles, who’s best days are behind him, Lance Moore, who can be replaced pretty easily. Probably other role player types, too. Payton is a great offensive mind–Chip-like. I think there is a certain element of plug and play to his offense that provides an opportunity to fit guys in and maximize their ability.

          • oreofestar

            yeah there are like 5 of those right now

          • NickS1

            I don’t disagree, my point is the methodology, generally speaking, seems the same. While the NOs, PITs, etc of the world manage it differently, the same general methods are used in terms of setting deals up so restructure years in are built in at the end.

          • cliff henny

            the balloon will burst, but brees only ha so many years left. i’d go all-in for 3 knowing following 2 might be rough if I was them

          • JofreyRice

            It is true that Brees’ age gives them a much different profile than the Eagles. Definitely looks more like a “window” situation. If they raise another Lombardi in the next few years, it’s not going to make it sting any less, tho.

          • Adam

            Because I don’t view cap space as a reason to justify spending that type of money. NO making it work even though their tight against the cap is irrelevant to me. It’s about value. 28 mil guaranteed to me is simply too much for Byrd. Like I said, my opinion. And I’m not sitting here and saying Byrd is a bad player. He’s clearly a great one. But you’re absolutely 100% handcuffed. I’m worried about his speed and his foot/feet injury. And there are other variables I consider as well. What does it do to your locker room when they see the Eagles handing over a blank check to Byrd? What precedence does it set to other FA you attempt to sign in terms of what money they’re going to expect?

            NO is a great franchise, no doubt about that. But they’re putting just about every damn egg they have (and some they don’t even have yet) into a very small basket. They are going to have roughly a third of their cap money tied up in 3-4 guys. At this point, they need to start cutting starters to make this happen. And last time I checked, Jerry Jones trophy case is a little bigger than Mickey Loomis’. Just because their SB is more recent does not mean he can’t be making the same missteps as Jerry has.

          • oreofestar

            I understand, in a perfect world Byrd would take a little less to come to us but it aint a perfect world

          • JofreyRice

            And at the end of the day, both those guys we’re pointing and laughing at have a trophy, while our cold comfort is celebrating value signings like Jenkins.

            fair enough, I think our definitions of value are different. For me, it’s always going to be about football value more than economic value to them, as a franchise. I’m a fan of the team on the field, I don’t give shit about their financials, really. It will be interesting to see how it all works out. I think the value signings are more for when you’ve got a tight budget and have to make due. That’s clearly not the situation here.

          • Eagles4Life

            My sentiments exactly. The goal is to hoist the Lombardi. Period.

          • Stephen Stempo

            oh.

          • JofreyRice

            Do you have a point or did you burp or something?

  • Token

    Well that about does it for FA. A few more bums to come. Maybe hope for a Revis and Ware. Dunno. Hard to see how this team is gonna be getting much better than last year. The rooks better be damn good. A lot of holes to fill.

    • Adam

      Revis would ease the pain. Caplan linked him to the Birds I believe and he’s usually pretty good with breaking Eagles stuff.

      • G_WallyHunter

        I’ve discussed revis a few times today, lots against the idea.
        He’d be what 4yr 44mil 15-20guaranteed? Or way more
        Then u got Cary 3mil 3dead someone said, and fletch 3space, how the hells it work, and does revis character fit the locker room, who knows

        • Stephen Stempo

          I wonder if Revis is looking for a huge contract anymore? I mean he got that and got cut after a year? HJe’s been part of 2 dysfunctional organizations. This might make him more reasonable. Plus after tampa paid him and the bonus his bank account should be pretty set.

          • Aussie Eagle

            I thought there was no bonus or guarantees in his Bucs deal?

          • Stephen Stempo

            no? I can’t imagine there wasn’t any guarantees. Maybe no bonus.

          • oreofestar

            There was no guarantees

          • Stephen Stempo

            well maybe revis has learned an important lesson.

          • G_WallyHunter

            6yr 96mil 0 guaranteed.. he got his 16 first year, was a prove it deal tho, I wonder what kind of guarantees he’s looking for now. It was only one year

          • G_WallyHunter

            Funny u say this I said it all in different order earlier today, I feel the same way, who knows what he’s thinking, might want to go to a good organization with continuity and potential for a couple bucks less..

    • oreofestar

      Pretty much obviously Howie does not want to compete for a superbowl

      • Stephen Stempo

        lol

      • borntosuffer

        I remember a couple seasons ago when the Eagles had the “Dream Team” because of what they did in free agency and then they won the super bowl … no, wait …

        • oreofestar

          true glad they did not pay him that but they let evry good db besides like Talib get signed and we are not signing Talib

          • borntosuffer

            On the other hand, I do understand the frustration. After all, we are all Eagles fans.

          • oreofestar

            Yeah I am disappointed but it is not Howie’s fault

  • Corey

    I can respect Howie for not matching that shit contract, but mother fucker, why did they have to move the draft back into May. I won’t be able to feel good about this team until fucking May?

    • G_WallyHunter

      See what happens, maybe tomorrow we see some encouraging moves, but agreed 28mil guaranteed jesus. I assume 6yr 60mil 28gt’d… they’ll warn u with language like that might as well not use it

      • Corey

        well i apologize, I usually frequent BGN and they could care less

        • G_WallyHunter

          No need to apologize to me ha ha I couldn’t care less, I just know I’ve been warned in the past and I know a few accounts have been banned in the past, likely because of the national newspaper affiliation.
          I was just lettin ya know

  • EaglesFanInPhx

    9m per year for Byrd

    • cliff henny

      yeah, he got paid. Howie wasn’t even in the yrs…never involved in all that

  • oreofestar

    Okay 6 years $54 mil fine I forgive no way we were matching that but still how the hell are the Saints gonna afford that

    • DoctorRick

      Wow! I’m almost speechless.
      How ARE they going to aford that?

      • oreofestar

        No idea and $28mil guaranteed so at least 4 years probably even a little guaranteed in the 5th that is crazy

    • Nfl All Day

      Maybe they’ll have to rip up their tender on Graham and we’ll have our revenge

  • 609to336 Eagles

    Denver leading spot for D. Ware

  • DoctorRick

    Man, I go the the bathroom and grab a beer on the flip-flop and the world’s changed. Byrd and Mitchell both gone. Jenkins is OK but he’s not the deep safety we need.

    • Stephen Stempo

      honestly jenkins is this years cary williams. He’s a body until we draft his replacement.

  • dnabrice

    We have 20 mill more cap space than the Saints and we just manage to sign their scraps while they got Byrd… How on earth can they pay him with only 2 mill of space???

    • Stephen Stempo

      I smell cuts.

    • Adam

      They cut starters, and they restructure deals to push back their cap hits. They’re going to have a third of their cap tied up in 3 or 4 guys. Cap hell, as they like to call it. Jerry Jones heaven.

      • Will

        NOLA believes they have a Superbowl Team, I don’t think we are there yet. Maybe in 2-3 years.

        • Max Lightfoot

          I agree – we are 1-2 drafts away from winning in the playoffs. Just one year ago we were coming off a 4-12 season that could have been even worse. We are making progress. It’s slow, but that’s because Reid (with Banner’s and Howie’s help) left this team a smoking crater with atrocious drafting.

          Why build a defense around a guy with plantar fasciitis in both feet? He’s damaged goods – these injuries are extremely painful, slow to heal and recur too easily – very easy to tweak. Byrd will probably miss some games for the Saints next year.

          Yeah, we need a safety and an OLB, but we can’t go crazy in an overinflated FA market, which I think this has proven to be.

          No one wants to hear this – I keep posting it again and again – but high-priced free agents are for teams close to winning a Super Bowl. Man, I love my Eags (and have since 1967) but we are two years away from being in that position.

  • oreofestar

    Saints are going to have to do a lot of stuff to get under and sign picks and Graham will make more money I mean damn they are in trouble I hope Byrd sucks for them they cut tons of good players and they suffer

    • Stephen Stempo

      the question is who were the Saints bidding against? I mean was someone else ready to swoop in with something close to that? for a safety?

  • Corey

    I definitely feel better after having seen how much Byrd was offered, but how can the Saints even come close to affording that? I doubt they’ll be able to pay their draft picks now.

  • oreofestar

    I am gonna be honest maybe contract length and guarantees would be different but I would totally be fine if the Eagles gave Byrd a 5 year 45mil deal with 20 guaranteed

  • oreofestar

    I am not hating against Howie and while I stll think he just let some DBs get away super cheap like Ward and Verner I can not get angry, Saints wanna win now and they paid the price Eagles did not want to pay the price and they are not ready to win now and that is not a spite against Howie but with NOLA and SEA and CAR I just do not think we are ready yet

    • Corey

      I really hope the saints have a collapse this year. This is a horribly irresponsible way to run a team and I would love to see them have a Cowboy-esque season. Some Byrdspite for sure, but screw them.

      • Stephen Stempo

        Maybe not this year, but they’re going to be pretty up against it the next 2 offseasons. Maybe they’re trying to cash in while Brees still has gas left in his tank.

      • oreofestar

        I hope they just collapse and Byrd plays horrible I hope they have a dream team like couple of seasons

  • oreofestar

    oh it is actually6 years $56mil

    • Eagles1018

      Did Bryd go to NO?!?! I don’t see it……

      • oreofestar

        yeah… unfortunately

  • Corey

    Howie better kick the draft’s a$$

    • cliff henny

      or get a stub at CB or LOB, but they’re coming off board quickly.

      • Brian

        Why do you want a short CB or LOB?

        • Jerry Pomroy

          He’s wasting away his frustrations over alcoholic beverages…lol.

          • oreofestar

            yep

  • Will

    8. Malcolm Jenkins

    2013 Grade: -6.0
    2013 Snaps: 830

    Summary: For most, tallying a -6.0 overall grade and ranking 65th out of 86 safeties would be considered a terrible year and a low point, but for this former first-round pick it was actually an improvement from his 2012 performance when he ranked dead last in overall grade. So, why is a guy who hasn’t finished in the Top 65 in his position making the Top 10 list? The answer is potential and versatility. After starting his career as a highly touted cornerback, Jenkins has made the transition to safety and can fill the dual role that is desired in today’s NFL. He can cover slot receivers and proved to be an asset in Rob Ryan’s exotic defensive schemes. He led all safeties in Pass Rushing Productivity, generating nine pressures and three sacks on just 35 rushes. At just 26 years old, there is still opportunity for growth for a player who has increased his tackle total each of the last four seasons. This could be the definition of a boom-or-bust signing for a team looking to take a chance on a supremely athletic player that hasn’t come close to reaching his full potential yet, but just might never get there. per PFF

    The Eagles pass on Byrd for Jenkins….