Eagles Wake-Up Call: Weighing In On DeSean

Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson (10) returns a punt return against the Detroit Lions during the fourth quarter of the Snow Bowl

In the past week or so, there’s been a lot of talk about DeSean Jackson’s future with the Eagles and the possibility of the organization moving on without him.

Jimmy Kempski of Philly.com offered his take over the weekend on why trading Jackson could make sense. Geoff Mosher of CSNPhilly.com and Jeff McLane of The Inquirer weighed in yesterday.


The way I see it the only thing that really matters in this scenario is Chip Kelly's opinion. Forget Jackson's salary, the team's decision to re-sign Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper and everything else. The bottom line is simply if the head coach - for one reason or another - thinks trading Jackson is the right move to get the organization closer to a Super Bowl, then that's what the Eagles will do.

But barring a slam dunk deal, I think such a move would be an enormous mistake for the following reasons:

* The basic premise of the Eagles' offense last year was to attack with the run until defenses showed they could stop LeSean McCoy and company. When defenses committed more bodies to the box, the Eagles did their damage over the top in the passing game. That's why they had the best rushing offense in the league and the best downfield passing attack. Trading one of the best two or three vertical threats in the league would be an enormous blow to the way the system operates.

* Without Jackson, this is a below-average receiving corps. Cooper benefited from man coverage with no safety help all season long. That doesn't happen if Jackson's not on the other side. Maclin is a productive receiver, but he's coming off of an ACL injury and is not the downfield threat Jackson is. The free agent pool is weak. And while the draft class is considered deep at wide receiver, the last thing the Eagles want to do is go into May feeling like they have to find a starting-caliber pass-catcher. That's when mistakes are made.

* The Inquirer reported that Jason Avant often had to act as a mediator between Jackson and wide receivers coach Bob Bicknell. I don't doubt that, but both Jackson and Bicknell should find a way to work things out. Even with the disagreements last year, Jackson had a career year. Four wide receivers had at least 80 catches and averaged at least 16 yards per reception: Jackson, Calvin Johnson, Josh Gordon and Alshon Jeffery. In other words, Jackson is not as replaceable as some might believe. The move is to make the relationship work, not cut ties because there are some disagreements.

* Jackson's salary to me is a non-issue. Per OverTheCap.com, Jackson got $15 million guaranteed with his new deal, which ranks 15th among wide receivers. His average annual salary is $9.7 million, which ranks eighth. Bottom line? The most talented, productive players on your roster tend to get paid the most money. It's really as simple as that. The Eagles still have the 11th-most cap space in the league going into free agency.

Like I said at the beginning, if there is some kind of smoking gun with Jackson that has yet to be revealed, and if Kelly wants to go in a different direction, maybe the Eagles pull a stunner at some point.

But Jackson looked like a great fit for this offense in 2013, and right now, given the information we have, I can't come up with a legitimate reason why the Eagles would be wise to get rid of him.

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WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Tommy Lawlor of Iggles Blitz isn't ready to close the book on Michael Vick just yet:

Honestly, I don’t know why the Eagles would rule Vick out. If the market doesn’t play out as he’d like it, seems to me that you would be willing to talk to him about returning as a backup. I don’t anticipate Vick coming back. I do think some team will give Vick a chance to be their starter or at least compete for the starting role.

Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com has the Eagles taking Louisville safety Calvin Pryor at No. 22:

He is a big-hitting safety who would fill a major need if they don't land one in free agency.

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  • Tom W

    Never a good idea to create a major hole on your starting roster and go from green to red at wr for no reason. The cap number can be easily lowered if it’s a problem. Not wise to part ways w elite deep speed wr talent until you have identified his replacement. Gotta wait atleast a yr till we review our stud wr. Finally let’s not get ahead of ourselves w maclin. One yr deal. If eagles don’t want him at the bigger number or he underperforms or gets greedy, we have a nother hole at wr. Let’s not create one unnecessary hole at wr now when we could have a necessary hole in a year w a guy that can never stay healthy or put up big numbers or be elite at anything Silly rumors to get clicks. Just like Jordan but worse

    • G_WallyHunter

      Yup, all chatter, if they got rid of Desean it would be a huge mistake.

      This was a great read and Sheil hit the nail on the head, given the information we have right now, there’s just no way you can come up with enough reason to get rid of him. Hopefully Chip is communicating with Desean through all this media chatter and assuring him that he isn’t going anywhere.. no one needs a pouty Desean showing up mid offseason because he heard some media chatter..

    • James Hathaway

      Can we please put to bed the notion that maclin is injury prone and never plays? The dude missed 5 games in his CAREER prior to this year. Including the year that was lost due to his illness. In a non-productive offense, he’s still putting up good #2 numbers. Let’s give him a year in a prolific offense and see what happens. My guess: 70, 1000, 10.

      • cliff henny

        we can after 2 or 3 regular season games. ’09-’12 means nothing, right now he’s a talented guy coming of an ACL. surgery has come a long way, but it’s no sure thing. with that, i’ll go nutz if he hits those numbers, eagles might average 40

        • James Hathaway

          I’m not saying that his ACL injury doesn’t worry me. I meant that people act like he was some frail, injury prone guy before this setback. He isn’t Hakeem nicks or miles Austin. Those guys are NEVER healthy. He had a freak injury, and we’ll see what happens. I’m very optimistic.

          If he falls short of those projections of mine, I’m still expecting career numbers. I may be inflating his td totals, I think ertz could eat away at those but regardless I’m expecting big things out of the guy.

      • Tom W

        Still coming off an acl and still hasn’t put together a wr1 or probowl season. All I said is let’s relax on the maclin bandwagon bc he could easily be gone in a yr if he is great or bad … If he is great he will wanna get paid atleast what hartline got at 7 mil a yr and if he isn’ his ole self even we may move on especially if the rookie wr we get if we get one looks promising.

      • GEAGLE

        I’m not one of those who spends time worrying about his injury…but the dude has had two major knee surgeries, you can’t just pretend it’s a GUARENTEED non issue

  • Ertz Donut

    My guess is that big balls Chip likes him some Desean..

  • Engwrite

    One thing all this discussion will do is piss off Jackson and I’d rather not have him obsess about the sport writers or the fans or lack of support. All last season DeSean did what was asked of him, much of which included serving as a decoy. He may or may not be a Prima Donna but what he is for sure is the fastest player in the NFL and a receiver who I don’t recall dropping any passes last year. I want DeSean Jackson to feel the love.

    • G_WallyHunter

      He will, Chip knows what you just said and hopefully he makes sure Desean feels the love. Chip is so good at blocking out media, kinda hoping this year that all transcends to the rest of the roster and we see a general improvement in all the players blocking out stupid media distractions..

  • Leegles

    He’s no Damaris Johnson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf6UpiiLWaY — he’s DeSean Jackson, one of the most electrifying players ever in Philly. The Eagles can afford him. He’s not a mess off the field, despite his flareups. He does good chartiable work for pancreatic cancer. He’s a few seasons and a Super Bowl away from being an iconic Eagle.

  • Leegles

    He’s no Damaris Jackson – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9prEhmGafqM — he’s DeSean Jackson, one of the most electrifying players ever in Philly sports.

    • cliff henny

      after I got done spilling beer all over my living room and tackling my dog, relaxed and watched replay. really thought Coughlin was going need EMTs at the 40. his heart and arteries must be held together by stress. if Eli’s INTs dont kill him over next 2yrs, he wont last 3 months in retirement. he’s like my first car, took it to get the oil changed, mechanic told me he wouldnt, was the only thing keeping my pinto POS together

      • GEAGLE

        Wondering if Howie can pull off one of those, trade you our schematic trash for your schematic trash…Damaris to KC for someone they will cut? Why hasn’t Damaris been cut? Is it not time for Cuts yet? Professional courtesy is if you aren’t in our plans we cut you now so you have the best chance to find a job…why is Damaris head still attached to his neck?

        • Token

          theres a lot of trash still needing to be cut. Dont know what the hold up is. You would think before the 11th it would happen.

          • GEAGLE

            So the timeline would be, before the 11th for cuts? Teams are cutting players left and right(I know a lot of it is to get under the cap), but I find it odd that we haven’t seen ATleast 3 cuts already

          • Token

            Especially some statement cuts like Chung. Let the team know playing like hell gets you cut.

          • GEAGLE

            Relax…we need that F’er to lead our recruiting/tampering of the Oregon safeties lol…once Chung secures Ward or Byrd, feel free to screw him over and cut him lol

          • NickS1

            I feel like if we cut Chung after he does the recruiting it’s not going to sit well with whichever of the Ducks we sign, if any. Hell if he gets us one of them, I’m not even asking for a paycut.

          • cliff henny

            why, there’s 90 man roster. it doesn’t get team anywhere but satisfying blood-thirst for fans. now chungs and casey, yes,but vet minimum guys can be strung along

          • GEAGLE

            Guess it makes sense..why cut guys if you don’t have to…more time to work out trades for other teams trash…we have the money, but Chip ain’t doing guys like Maehl any favors by stringing him along, then again, a low end signing like Maehl probably wouldn’t even happen til after June cuts anyway, so Maehl probably doesn’t have much to lose

          • Nfl All Day

            It depends which league year the team wants the cap penalty, if any, to fall in. 2013, before the 11th, 2014 after. Affects the roll over.

        • cliff henny

          why cut minimum guys, still have to round out the 90 man, doesn’t clear space. seems like this week is the big clearers, which Eagles don’t have many. once FA starts, the professional courtesy cuts, likechung and casey, happen so they can find a home.

          • GEAGLE

            Can we really only cut Avant before FA?

          • cliff henny

            no, can cut anyone. guess they did that because he’s such a fan favorite, get it out of the way. cutting guys making 700k like coleman still have to be replaced on the 90 at some point by guy making 500k, doesn’t get eagles anything. i’d get the machete out right after the draft and udfa once have chance to see guys live.

          • GEAGLE

            They cut him to save the one mil roster bonus we owed him if we didn’t cut him

          • GEAGLE

            When would be the timeline to restructure guys like Casey/Avant? I would assume now is pay cut time no? Or do teams without cap problems, just casually restructure whenever the hell they feel like it?

        • Uncle Wonder

          There is no benefit to us to cut guys unless we hv a specific bonus deadline…just because we don’t like them doesnt mean we will find anyone to replace them. There are 30 teams in the league looking over the same few players…there is a possibility we may hv to keep some guys until we know what else we can get. Lol, why do any of us care? Whether we cut ppl now or in two months doesnt affect our lives any.

          • GEAGLE

            You can trace my bloodlines back to the Roman Empire, so every once in a while, I need my Blood Fix..that sweet taste of iron hitting your lips…hmmmmmmm OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!! Tho “off with his head” may be a bit “Fruity Frenchmen ish”..so THUMBS DOWN!!!

          • Maggie

            Totally agree. Cut and replace with who? Mentioned this yesterday.

          • Yes_General

            Mike Evans!! Wow that was easy..lol

        • #7

          True. He’s done pretty much nothing. Maybe Chip has him stashed away for some reason?

      • Jerry Pomroy

        He said Pinto…hahaha. My first was ’79 Grand Prix. 4.3L HO V6, Brown w/ tan vinyl front bench seat, mag wheels w/ raised white lettered Firestones & aftermarket pioneer speakers mounted above the rear deck lid.

        • cliff henny

          yeah, i’m not a car guy. had a jeep Cherokee I drove for over year without reverse. before you ask, park up hill, drive thru parking and sometime just have to fred flintstone it.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            That’s ok my next car was an ’87 Buick Regal Somerset T-Type (I wanted the REAL Regal T-Type). Rusting out fenders, goofy radio, glitchy digital dash & best of all…no heat or w/s defroster (bad heater core/bypassed it) during one of the worst winters I can remember. Used to drive with the windows down & buy cases of de-icer spray to spray the windshield down while driving (literally while moving) in bad weather. My buddies and I REALLY hated that car!

          • Maggie

            I bet now you remember it fondly. I had an ’87 Doge Minivan. Drove one winter in northern Alberta on park lights and stayed on side streets. If the headlights or heater or /wipers were turned on, the thing would stall. No steering or brakes when it stalls! Turned out it was the fuel/vacuum computer module. Even after replacing a few times, the same thing kept happening. Finally managed to sell that lemon to someone in a warmer climate! But the first time that thing went bad, there was such a loud BANG from under the vehicle I seriously looked back expecting to see the transmission lying in the road! Funny now.

      • #7

        The most fun I ever had watching football was 2010. I didn’t turn off the game because I knew that Vick would bring us back. When they kicked it to #10, it was like slow motion for me. I ran through my house screaming and jumping lol. My wife thought I was nuts

      • Maggie

        Keep that mechanic!

    • Chris

      Man, i’ll remember this game forever. I was so sick i turned it off halfway through…checked my phone a few minutes later to see a Celek TD, turned it right back on. So glad i did, thank god for smartphones, i’d never let myself live it down if I had missed it.

  • kyle wilson

    Nothing like a rational, well thought out analysis to bring clarity to a previously muddled situation. Thanks Sheil.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Very well said, I second it

    • ftotheyu

      This is what happens when there’s not much news to report in the NFL world… writers start making up speculative nonsense like this. Can’t wait until free agency arrives.

      • #7

        Damn anonymous scouts too. Hate them

  • cliff henny

    Bicknell is a position coach, part of the job requirement is to play bad cop, maybe even more so under kelly. new staff trying to get WRs to play a whole different style, and Kelly showed w/ 3rd teaming jax and not giving shady 250k off-season bonus he wasn’t some pushover college coach . Avant leaving could be a blessing, his mediating might have been a crutch. seen plenty of times in my professional life where a 3rd party getting involved hurts (or 2 guys that had issues build semi-friendship when a void is made by departure of popular guy). Bicknell and DJ don’t have to vacation together, but sure they can hammer out a professional agreement to get thru a business day.

    • GEAGLE

      Quality as always brother!

  • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

    I think the Eagles planted these rumors for motivational purposes and DJax is in on it.

    • aub32

      I doubt it. They know better than anyone that DJax is all in right now. Why rock the boat when the guy has already expressed he’d appreciate some extra security.

      • #7

        Best that he’s ever played by far. He was locked in all season regardless of the QB and caught pretty much everything

    • CJ

      maybe this is a stupid question, but if “DJax is in on it” then how the hell is it motivational?

      Howie: “We’re going to leak to the media that we intent to trade you, but don’t worry, it’s only to motivate you because you only had the best year of your career last season and we know you can do better.”

      You’re kidding, right?

      • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

        I’m just trying to trick myself into thinking this is all some sort of joke. So I created this scenario where they’ve leaked this story for “Haters gon hate” purposes. That motivates some guys.

        If these reports are true that means we’re probably drafting a WR #1 and I probably just need to face that reality.

        However, until they do that I will believe this is something they are doing together to motivate him this off-season as odd as that sounds. Positivity is the key.

        • CJ

          I think this is wishful thinking by some teams hoping that the Eagles take the one weapon that makes this offense go more than any other, and get rid of him. DJax demands a safety over the top on just about every play, taking another player out of the box and giving Shady extra room.

          They might well take another WR high, I’ll be shocked if they don’t. But it won’t be at DeSean’s expense this year.

  • GEAGLE

    OMFG!!!! I can not discuss this worthless crap AGAIN!!! Someone please post something worth talking about,,,any pro days today?

    • Andy124

      We have casual dress Fridays here. If you’re off on Friday, we call Thursday our Virtual Friday. Casual dress or not? Discuss.

      • GEAGLE

        That’s actually a better convo, then to talk about something that would NEVER happen this offseason for the 17th day in a row. There is a better chance that the eagles sign Byrd,Ward AND Jenkins, then Desean not being on the 2014 Eagles

        • UKEagle99

          Eagles already have agreements in place to sign Byrd and then trade him to the Browns for 2 first round picks. They are signing Ward and sending him to Carolina for a first and a second. They are signing Jenkins and trading him and Jackson to New Orleans in return for Vacarro and a second.

          It’s all true, my dog told me and she’s more reliable than Jason La Canfora.

          • GEAGLE

            God told me if I leave the combine, I’m going to be a seahawk, then I find out God was just some internet Jesus

          • Maggie

            Sweet Dreams, baby!

      • UKEagle99

        We have the same here, virtual Friday does not qualify for casual dress, you can however wear virtual casual dress which is almost identical to standard business dress.

        • Andy124

          Thanks guys. It was actually a trick question. Half our office dresses full-casual all the damn time anyway. :)

      • G_WallyHunter

        I think a lot of that comes down to the discretion of the manager or supervisor involved. I mean, technically it is your Friday, you should be entitled to casual dress. Other employees may grow irate, as many people like to take fridays off, then they always get virtual fridays. Tough debate

        I think a compromise would be a great solution. Jeans and a dress shirt? Dress pants and a t-shirt?

      • Maggie

        What does casual mean? Jeans? Shirtless? No shoes? Loosen your tie? No deodorant? ;~)

        • Andy124

          Bow-tie and nothing else.

          Serious answer: Jeans, t-shirt or polo, sneakers.

          • Maggie

            Last office I was in there was one accounting guy used to ride his bicycle to work, wearing cargo shorts and some ratty sweatshirt. And sandals! True west coast I guess. He wore them all day too. For him, casual Friday would have meant nudity! No one would have ever taken him for an accountant!

  • aub32

    The idea that the Eagles would get rid of DeSean is ludicrous. We all knew when he signed that contract 2 years ago that he would only make it to year 3 if he played like a top receiver. I think he exceeded the expectations of many. He’s one of the best WRs in the league right. He’s not your prototypical #1, which makes some fans and media members thinks he’s expendable, but make no mistake. DeSean is a bonfide #1 guy. Look at the company he keeps in terms of stats. The guy is one of the most dangerous deep threats, does what he can when blocking, has vastly improved on his route running and intermediate game, stays healthy, and haunts the dreams of NFL punters (especially those in NY). This is all a result of fans not liking his personality and media members conjecturing whatever stories they can come up with over the offseason.

    • Andy124

      Tangent:
      Who on the team would we (the fans) not even listen to trade offers for?

      I can’t imagine trading Foles for anything. If you think you have your QB, you don’t let him go. Period. This is a positional thing.

      I can’t imagine trading Shady. No matter what assets you get in return, what he does on the field is irreplaceable.

      There’s no one else on the team that I would just hang up the phone if someone came calling for.

      I could theoretically see an offer big enough to trade DJ. It would take quite the offer (probably not a realistic one) for me to pull the trigger, but I would listen to offers. I think it’s possible to get enough in return to offset what you’d lose. I don’t think anyone can do what DJ can as well as DJ can, but they can do other things better, and I trust Chip to be able to adjust to that.

      That being said, I neither want nor expect DJ to be traded.

      • GEAGLE

        Cox, Kendrick,Boykin,Barwin,Logan, Lane,Kelce,FOles, shady, Chung…I’d laugh if anyone asked me to trade them

        • AJ Race

          chung, really?

        • CJ

          CHUNG?!

          Oh surely you mean you’d be laughing because someone wanted to give us something for him. In that case, you could add Casey Matthews to the list.

      • cliff henny

        listen…everyone. raiders came up to me about Jax I’d say ‘whatcha got?’ when GM started of with 2 seconds, i’d ask how his family was, no need to laugh in his face.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I’m with you there. That’s not a laughable offer by any means. Especially in this draft where you could conceivably replace that player in the second & add another high quality player to boot. Or use one of those to leverage yourself in trading up if you see someone of elite talent within reach. Throw in a 4th & the conversation then gets even more interesting. Now if that second 2 is next year, I want a 2nd & 3rd (instead of 4th) this year.

          • aub32

            What? Do you know what you’re saying? DeSean is one of the best players in the league at his position, and you would trade him for 2 2nds who may end up busts?

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Yes, I know what I’m saying. DJax is a very productive receiver and I like the player, but let’s not get too carried away with what he is and isn’t. You cannot say that he isn’t replaceable and if the offer is too good to pass up, you’d be a fool to at least not consider it. Also, I didn’t say you trade him for two 2s. I agreed with Cliff that you can’t just laugh in the guys face if the first offer is that and just change the subject. But if the offer was two 2s & a 3, well then maybe you’re serious and I’ll listen a bit more before asking how their wife was doing.

      • Bdawkbdawk

        I’m not saying you shop anyone, but if another GM makes an offer – you gotta listen. No one is untouchable on this team. Some offers you just can’t refuse.

        • Maggie

          Another part of the argument is that Jackson has maximum value now, but he’s 28. Will that be true in 2 years?

        • Yes_General

          No one is untouchable. Very True!!!!

  • GEAGLE

    geez, BJ Raji sucks so bad, he signed a one year prove it deal without even testing his value on the open market lol….like that means you are well aware of the fact that you been playing like crap

    • CJ

      Or it means teams still tamper and he already knows what he’d get elsewhere. Guessing that’s more likely.

      • anon

        Makes you think Byrd knows where he’s going to go

  • Token

    “Howie Roseman on 94-WIP: This year’s free agent class is weaker than it was the previous two years.”

    ???????????????????????????

    • Uncle Wonder

      Definitely weaker at the top, lacks star power…but idk if i buy that throughout. probably blowing smoke.

    • aub32

      Weaker in the sense that there isn’t a lot of talent that can be had in the bargain range perhaps?

      • Jerry Pomroy

        That was my first thought as well.

    • RIP illa

      Overall he’s right, but the exception is at the DB spot. The way things have shaken out for CB and S is pretty damn good for teams w/ a need or two and willing to pay. Can’t say that I saw this coming but right now those spots are looking way better than at the least, last year.

    • CJ

      He’s been going well out of his way to beat that drum, and the not spending on high end stuff. He’s going so far out of his way that it almost has to be a clear misdirection. Almost seems like he wants to be underestimated in FA so he can swoop in and get a high end DB before anyone knows what hit them.

      Of course, the need there is so obvious that it won’t work, but he’s trying.

      • Token

        Thats been my thought. He says it every chance he gets.

      • Maggie

        Have you noticed, too, that the whole organization is almost silent except for Howie’s mantra? Hmmmm.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      is that not true? besides 2 good safeties, who is out there? No decent QB, RB, WR’s are only ok, no TE, weak OL, ok DL prospects, weak LB and weak CB. Howie’s not lying too much

  • GEAGLE

    Jason Verrett having surgery for torn labrum…

    Bear won’t bring back Devin Hester…is he still a good return man, or has he fallen off?
    ..
    Champ Baily was cut

    • Joe from Easton

      Wonder if he’s having open or arthroscopic. HUGE difference in recovery times

    • Jerry Pomroy

      IF I’m signing a return specialist in FA, it would be McCluster over Hester. If only because of age. But, if we’re absolutely looking for a guy in the draft that can handle that role, I would consider (consider=keyword) Hester on the cheap. As far as STs go, our weakest links have been place kicker & returner. Our punter and gunner (Boykin) were excellent last year. Hopefully they already have a signed/post dated deal with Donnie just waiting to be officially announced. Henery needs to go to a dome. Not only does he not have a strong leg, he’s not consistent in the clutch & to me, clutch is more important than overall leg strength. And what’s up with him being terrible at home? Gimme the kid from Seattle that can kick in the wind & noisy stadium.

  • GEAGLE

    Wow, the philly media is really eating off this story lol…why not just make up another rumor? Why stop at Desean?
    ..
    We offered FOles to the browns for the 4th pick…that’s the equivalent of talking about this nonsense

  • NickS1

    Great read on the masterful tank job being executed by the Sixers. You needed to a new topic Johnny G.

    http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nba-bag-volume-2-10-steps-to-tanking-perfection/

    • Tom W

      yea simmons loves what the sixers are doing (and not his beloved celts) but hates the system that perpetuates 1/3 of teams wanting to tank.

      Rooting for 1 and 6 w the picks and made a late first for 2s or a late first to inherit a bad contract dump.

      Happy w 2 and 7 — dont wanna be to greedy.

      Any sixers fans — say we have 2, wiggins goes 1, we locked into Embiid despite Noel’s presence even though brett brown said publicly a week ago Noel is only a center, can’t play 4 and he prefers a stretch 4? gotta make it work if embiid is olajuwan vs taking parker … or not? Vonlah at second pick would be my dream (like chad fords mock yesterday)

      • cliff henny

        Pelly’s had me nervous for a day or 2. had to jump 4 crappy teams and then beat Lakers, think about 9th, give or take one, will be landing. which is fine. think Young plus the 296 2nd’s and 50m in cap can get 6′rs to about 6th, if Hinkie works a magical 3-way. a lot will come down to just how much garbage sixers will take on. going to be some serious dumpage for the hopes of free agents.

  • Mugzy Payton

    Eagles should offer to restructure his deal to give him more guaranteed money for a little less overall money per year, maybe add a year to reduce the cap hit.

    Problem solved

  • #7

    #10 is the reason these guys get open. This would be a bad move by Howie. Chip does a great job with moving DeSean around and not allowing teams to jam him.

    • cliff henny

      the best moving Kelly did was moving Vick right on outta town. this isn’t a Vick article, what brought you by?

      • G_WallyHunter

        This is probably why he doesn’t come around!
        #7 I respect your opinion, now everyone else lets stop stoning certain commenters, the past is the past

        • cliff henny

          7 and I never had issues.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya lol you’re always civil, its others I speak of

        • #7

          Wish that could happen. At the end of the day, just want to talk football

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ya precisely, ppl just can’t drop your love for Vick, maybe its the avatar and username?
            Soon enough

          • #7

            My username and avatar came about because there was so much hate on here for the man and I took his side and fully believed that Vick was the better player and he was by winning the QB comp fair and square. Also, I just thought the avatar was funny and that’s the honest truth. People start attacking, so i just stuck with it. I intended to change it.

            Kudos to Foles. He did what he was supposed to do. I’ve always gave him credit for the way he played, but I don’t have to be a believer or a fan of his because people say I should, right? Like I said all along, at the end of the day, I want the Eagles to win. I always figured that could be the main point, but “people” like Token refused to hear anything. Just filled with hate

          • phillylove21

            I truly understand where your coming from.. You were a Vick fan and fell in love with the team.. Honestly coming out of high school I didn’t have a favorite football team but I always loved to watch the eagles play.. My favorite player has been Vick.. Ten years old watching a guy come from V-Tech turn a team and the sport it self around for athletes playing qb.. Over the past 5 years I couldn’t help but like this whole organization.. Its like damn obviously your a fan so why every time you comment you get sh¡t?

          • #7

            Well to correct you, it was Randall that made me become a fan and I liked how the fans supported the team. On the Vick angle, I just thought that he was an amazing player and he happened to come to the Eagles. I’m a sucker for underdogs and Vick was the ultimate underdog coming to the Eagles. Nobody wanted him and was the most hated man in the country and he overcame that. That’s what I admire.

            Why do I get sh!t? It’s because I don’t agree with the majority and they try to force it on people on here. They expected me to jump on the Foles train and I just don’t see the player that they see…and the same for them with Vick. Some on here just can’t handle a difference of opinion. Period

          • phillylove21

            I get it.. You used your user name and picture purposely not giving a damn.. Touché my friend.. What kills me is majority of people I’ve come contact with hates the fact I own a Vick jersey.. I’ve seen and heard people do horrible crimes but for some reason to this day he’s the most hated individual in sports.. “Its known today that the human race is nothing” (K.L.) and that just proves it.. But now I understand where your coming from.. I’m 21 years old and never grown to like a team but Philadelphia(father is a Pittsburgh Steel-her fan)..

          • #7

            “You used your user name and picture purposely not giving a damn..”

            Correct, but that didn’t go so well on here and I didn’t a F.

      • #7

        Because I felt like commenting sir.

        • cliff henny

          how have you been…you know I was just busting stones

          • #7

            Doing well man. Had to step away from this for while. The Eagles have an interesting period coming up regarding FA’s. I’m thinking that Byrd wants to come to Philly

          • cliff henny

            he better swing by city hall before settling, Johnny Geagle will need a serious restraining order

          • #7

            Who are you leaning towards in the draft

          • cliff henny

            dreaming of Mike Evans-literally. hoping Barr. if neither, drop back, hopefully twice, get 3rd and/or 4th, take stub WR (old dirty bastard Beckham) cause think Kelly will kill it with any of them. Christian Jones in 3rd, he works on so many levels. rest, just get freaks, Kelly can figure out the rest

          • #7

            Mike Evans…a lot faster than I thought he would be. Would be a great fit next to DeSean. I’ve been reading conflicting reports on Barr, but hell, we see conflicting reports on all of these guys. I really don’t like this time of year. All of the anonymous scouts saying their bit. I hate that.

      • Joe from Easton

        Ah now that’s not right.

    • Token

      Ugh. Just when we thought we were free.

      • #7

        Why do you bother… Haven’t said a word to you in weeks

      • #7

        Dude I don’t want any trouble. Please just ignore me. This board is open to all people. Give it up man

        • G_WallyHunter

          I like your thinking on Byrds desire to come to Philly… Out of all the teams pursuing him maybe Philly is the most attractive, but if Howie gives him 9 mil a year I don’t know about that one..

          • #7

            Understood. 9 mil is a lot, but look at the impact that Hitner and these other guys have made at safety. Earl Thomas, etc. Byrd can cover and lay the wood when needed. Nate Allen became a lot more steady I thought as the season went on, but you never see him setting the tone for the defense like a safety can do with a big hit or big time tackle or INT. We have great cap space. Why not?

          • G_WallyHunter

            Its true, plus some cheap positions free up space for it, I wouldn’t be totally against it, team and city is in serious need of safety and has been for years, would be a good time to open up the cheque book..

          • cliff henny

            just remember, 9m isn’t 9m anymore. players are getting 20%-25% raise (cap going from 123m to 155m, maybe 158m in 2yrs)

  • jabostick

    As this ‘rumour’ has unfolded, I always thought that you could rationalize the move and I don’t necessarily disagree with some of that rationale, but it does seem like a ‘fantasy GM’ thing to do rather than an actual move that would happen. Like, just getting cute with the roster and making moves for the sake of making moves.

    As Sheil puts it, barring any smoking guns (whether it be something about DeSean, or some master plan where they needed to pay a ridiculous amount to Byrd and were in love with a WR they thought they’d get in round one) it would seem like a very strange move and would send a confusing message to the locker room.

  • Rick H

    As a way to change the NON DISCUSSION about Jackson which is not going to happen period! I do believe the Eagles will get at least 2 real potential receivers in the draft or a split meaning 1 in free agency & 1 in the draft. I believe they get a receiver in the first two rounds. The choices are numerous. I was hoping for Cooks but I believe the cat is out of the bag with him & he will go early. Lots of other choices tthough like Beckham, Mongrief, Benjamin, Landry and several more… if the get a real bargain in free agency that would be great but that player would MUST be a serious player & MUST be a excellent fit with the Eagles great team atmosphere & chemistry. Thoughts???

    • #7

      Just hard to say on WRs. People look so much at speed (Heyward-Bey) and not check if these guys can actually run routes and catch the football. BLOCK, which is huge in Chip’s system. Hell he even had #10 out there blocking lol. Unless it’s a can’t miss like Calvin Johnson or Randy Moss, you never know with these guys. Seems that the WRs picked in the later rounds end up being better players IMO

      • anon

        Nice to see you back

    • cliff henny

      by several more, you mean 10-12? yeah, want 1 early 1 middle (4th or 5th) and combo of big/small or small/big. Mac might be 1 yr rental, and Cooper didn’t sign a contract that a young buck cant force his way ahead of.

      • Rick H

        Agreed! But to be honest I am tired of the summer camp Superstars that turn out to be nothing. I want real deal players that can play and make the catch and YAC…

    • Ertz Donut

      They won’t pick up receiver in FA but they will be tempted to draft 2. I’m calling 4 offensive players drafted. 2 Oline, 1 WR, 1 TE.

      • Rick H

        I tend to agree with you. I think my clearer point was if A quality guy / receiver was basically out there in late in free agency they really wouldn’t have anything to lose on a one year deal(unlikely). I do like your thinking a lot! More offense of firepower for sure. I know I’m in the minority but I think they’re going to get a running back at some point maybe in the 4th or 5th round or later. Someone that can hit the hole really fast that is not named LeSean McCoy.

  • Beans

    I’m glad you could put out a logical story off of the other morons speculation

  • JofreyRice

    This is what happens when you deputize a fan blogger to run your Eagles coverage, Philly dot com.

  • Kev_H

    I agree with everything Sheil writes except for the “system” business- a pet peeve of mine. I’m certain the Eagles offensive approach in 2014 will be much different than it was in 2013 and 2015 will be different than 2014. I often think our faithful bloggers love Kelly too much, but what puzzles me is that the things that make Kelly different and special as a coach- which are clearly supported by the things he says, emphasizes, and repeats- seem to go right over everyone’s heads.

    Kelly himself said that he didn’t come to Philadelphia with a “system” to “install” when it comes to offensive game tactics. if I remember correctly, he said he sat down with his offensive staff, looked at the players they had, what they expected opponents to do, and came up with an offensive approach to start off 2013. He hasn’t said anything to indicate he won’t approach 2014 the exactly same way.

    My bet is that they will take a more Peyton Manning-like approach next year and throw the ball all over the field for about 600-650 passes. Foles completion % will increase and his yards per pass will decrease (maybe significantly). He’ll throw 8-12 picks and 40-50 TDs.

    McCoy will be deployed like Marshall Faulk and have a Marshall Faulk 2000 MVP/Hall of Fame type year (if he stays healthy) running 250 times for ,1250-1,300 yards and catch 70-75 passes for about 10 yards per catch and score over 20 TDs.

    Kelly, you, me and everyone who reads this knows that none of the 15 NFL teams who scored 500 or more points in a season were running game centered. I am certain that Kelly wants to score at least 500 points and would be astonished if he’s planning to trot out the same approach that he used last year. Everything he has ever said and done in public is the opposite of Kelly “installing” a “system” on offense that he will use year after year while seeking out players who fit his “system” and he hasn’t been subtle or coy about it.

    • Maggie

      I would upvote many more times about Kelly. Of course he never said he would install a “system”, yet even seemingly smart fans keep using that term. Abovr and beyond the talking heads on TV or this here InterWeb. I stole InterWeb from Craig Ferguson.

  • myeaglescantwin

    if i was gauranteed a draft pic that could net me one of the top 2 or 3 WRs & a later round selection or swap,, i’d pull the trigger on Jackson.

    he is me first,
    but luckily for us that me first style gets him highlight after highlight & 1400 yds.
    hard to replace a player as special as DeSean, i just wish he would man up.

    all this childish stuff still hasn’t gone away at age 27, hard to think it will change further down the road. that sideline spat with the coaches last year was enough for me to look past his talents, and start looking at what his value would be.

  • Bird of Prey

    Thanks for speaking sense to the masses Sheil. When I saw the articles the last couple of days, I blasted them for the same reasons. He’s one of the players around the league that defensive coordinators have to game plan for. Having two players like that on the same roster without blowing your cap up is a huge plus that most teams would give their right arm for. As for position coaches and players getting into it. It happens ALL of the time (See Brady/O’brien) with successful teams.

  • Brlynn

    Thanks for the dose of reality Sheil…D-jax may have some diva qualities, but he is a potential home run on every play, and every defense knows this…people need to stop letting their personal feelings for d-jax cloud their judgement

  • Yes_General

    Desean is not a number1 receiver. He is not built for the slot and when you take away his speed. What is left, nothing but a decoy. Mike Evans would easily fill his void. Only naive fans root for desean in the beginning of the season then make excuses when he disappears late in the season when teams ‘Hit’ him more. If the eagles landed a 1st or 2nd RD pick and addressed this Defense the right way our offense will be more than capable to make a playoff run with out him. Trade him while he still has some value. Stop pretending like Desean is Calvin Johnson or Steve Smith. He doesnt have the physical toughness. I cant even think of the last time I seen any QB throw desean a back shoulder pass. I support trading desean and fixing this defense. These are not rumors its calling it how you see it. He is one of the last of Andys failed i’m smarter than everyone else picks. I dont need a bigger WR 190lbs+ . We all saw how that turned out. No Superbowls!!!!!