What They’re Saying About the Eagles

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Here’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles this week.

Chris Wesseling of NFL.com thinks the Eagles make the most sense for Jairus Byd:

The possibility of a reunion with Cleveland Browns coach Mike Pettine is real. The connection with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is even more obvious after Lovie Smith hired Jairus’ father, Gill, as cornerbacks coach. If Byrd wants to play for a winner, though, why not team up with former college coach Chip Kelly? Having locked up their offensive nucleus, it would behoove the Eagles to add a difference-maker such as Byrd in the secondary.

KC Joyner of ESPN.com throws out a new safety name for the Eagles to consider:

Eagles general manager Howie Roseman has indicated he isn’t likely to get into a bidding war for players and his free-agent history shows he looks for value players who can make an impact. Stewart fits that bill, as he excelled last season for St. Louis while filling in for strong safety T.J. McDonald in Weeks 5-10. The Rams gave up only 19 receptions for 189 yards and zero touchdowns to opposition tight ends in that time frame.

Joyner has Michael Vick on his “buyer beware” list of upcoming free agents:

A potentially compounding factor to the questionable on-field performance is Vick could also be the most polarizing figure in free agency, an attribute that could be amplified if he ends up playing in the New York market. There just may not be enough upside in this equation to justify the risk in signing Vick.

Pat Kirwan of CBSSports.com has the Eagles taking Minnesota defensive lineman Ra’Shede Hageman:

At some point in the first round the best available athlete drives the bus. Hageman is a 6-6, 315-pound athlete who needs to be more consistent.

Bucky Brooks of NFL.com has the Eagles taking Ohio State cornerback Bradley Roby in the first round:

Roby is arguably the most gifted corner in the 2014 class. He is a natural No. 1 corner with the skills to match up with elite receivers.

Charles Davis of NFL.com also thinks Roby would be a nice fit:

A strong finish to his season coupled with an impressive combine sends him to the NFC East champs.

Eric Edholm of Yahoo’s Shutdown Corner offers his offseason blueprint for the Eagles:

The offense could go supersonic this season in Kelly’s second year. Foles is in place with a great supporting cast that includes LeSean McCoy, DeSean Jackson, Riley Cooper (and maybe Maclin, who appears close to returning), a few good tight ends and an offensive line that is strong across the board and signed through 2016 now. Defensively, there are holes for sure, and a few salary-cap cuts could cause a little more bloodletting. But Fletcher Cox and Trent Cole are strong rushers, Mychal Kendricks appears to be ascending and there are a few serviceable corners to keep around.

Dane Brugler of CBSSports.com has the Eagles taking Ha’Sean Clinton-Dix in his latest mock draft:

Chip Kelly wants to get faster and tougher on defense and adding an impact safety would help. Clinton-Dix is a rangy player with a good feel for coverage and filling run lanes.

John Clayton of ESPN.com sizes up the salary cap situations of NFC East teams:

Only the Philadelphia Eagles have been able to build during the past two years. They have recovered from the 2011 Dream Team fiasco and have an early edge in the division this offseason. Last week, they re-signed wide receivers Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper and extended the contracts of offensive linemen Jason Peters and Jason Kelce.




They did all that and still have more than $20 million of cap room. Because they have transitioned from Michael Vick to Nick Foles, they can follow the lead of the San Francisco 49ers and Seattle Seahawks and leverage a couple of years with a low-priced starting quarterback to add an extra high-priced player or two to get them over the top.

Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com also thinks Byrd makes sense for the Eagles:

Did you see their problems on the back end last season? Byrd is a ball-hawking safety who would give them star power there.

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  • George

    I’ve actually heard that the eagles don’t value safety so highly and perfer ward over byrd b/c of his price tag

    • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

      Dick and I would take either with zero hesitation.

      • George

        So would I, but I’ve heard they’re more inclined to spend on front 7 than secondary.

        • GEAGLE

          If we didn’t value safeties before last year, we value them now…we signed big physical press corners and they had to play off all year cause our safeties were pathetic….

          • George

            I hope that’s the plan…

    • guest

      This is hilarious. Where did you “hear” this? Their price tags won’t be all that much different.

      Also, Howie is on record talking about how much he values the safety position. He just acknowledges that you can’t make cake out of cat shit. He hasn’t had the opportunity to get that dominant safety. That guy hasn’t been available to the Eagles since Earl Thomas and it wasn’t Howie’s call at that time. Good for him for not overspending on a mediocre safety in free agency just because the fans can’t grasp the concept that there just aren’t that many great safeties to be had.

      LOTS of teams are just as desperate at safety as we are. LOTS

      • CJ

        Where did he hear this? We’ve been hearing this since they let Dawk go while he still had some left in the tank. It’s not going to go away until they fix it.

      • FMWarner

        I want to stand and applaud this, dude.

  • Stuart Philp

    Byrd and Dix would be an interestng pair

    • George

      Nope. Both centerfielders. If we get byrd, draft pryor, and if we draft dix, get ward. better compliments to each other ala seahawks

      • Joe from Easton

        We don’t need two safety’s. I believe that if we put dix or byrd next to Wolff we’ll be looking pretty good.

        • George

          I thought you meant those two as a safety pairing. I think byrd would complement wolff well. of ward, for that matter. and I think ward is more likely b/c of his price tag and the fact that the fo doesn’t want to spend big on secondary. they’d rather spend on front 7

          • Joe from Easton

            I see Wolff as an “in the box” type of player and Byrd/Dix as both “centerfield” type players so I think either would pair well with Wolff. The point is I think we have something in Wolff and just need to put someone next to him that’s not named chung, allen, coleman, or anderson.

          • George

            that’s what i mean. However, I think that we’d need a stop gap to get dix adjusted to NFL speed. ‘bama players usually need a year to adapt. But I could see a Dix-wolff pairing being elite with good coaching and some luck

        • Nfl All Day

          Cant have 2 first year starters back there. Someone has to be experienced.

          • Joe from Easton

            Wolff isn’t a first year player. He knows the defense already and usually you get a pretty big leap from year one to year two in the NFL.

          • Nfl All Day

            It will be his first year as a full time starter. Dont know how he’ll handle it. Rather not have 2 unknowns.

          • Joe from Easton

            I get what you’re saying, but I wouldn’t call him an unknown. He flashed ability in the NFL already. The Eagles know what they have in him more than they do in any prospect.

          • Nfl All Day

            I wanna like him. Wolfe missing the amount of time he did is probably the biggest disappointment of last season. Could have really used the reps/experience.

          • Joe from Easton

            I hear that, but I think as a young player he didn’t want to go out there at anything less than 100%. You don’t get a huge window in the NFL to show your stuff and a few sub-par games last season due to injury could have really hurt his stock. He’s going to be serviceable at worst in this league, in my opinion. I think he’s got enough upside to be an above average player though.

          • GEAGLE

            Agreed, plus I suspect Chung warriored his way thru a bad shoulder all year, and Wolff probably saw how we treated him lol

          • Joe from Easton

            My sentiments exactly.

      • Jdubbs

        If we were to sign Ward I could see us trying to resign Allen. If Byrd then maybe some depth in later rounds to compete with Wolff. If neither, well then who knows.

        • Joe from Easton

          Howie and Chip know!

        • Nfl All Day

          I could live with another year of Allen at the right price. But I think some team might pay him more than we want to pay a backup safety. Others have a higher opinion of him than most of us do. Those who never had expectations for him.

          • Joe from Easton

            I still don’t think Allen is a bad safety. Follow his career and he’s had some tough breaks. He seemed to settle in the last half of last year. He was making sure tackles and patrolling the deep middle well. He’s by no means a pro-bowler, but if you put him next to an above average safety then I don’t see him killing us.

          • Nfl All Day

            Completely agree.

        • GEAGLE

          Allen will get more money then people think…for 3.5 I’d rather sign Jenkins to play centerfield with Ward torpedoing fools

          • Jdubbs

            Could live with that. But I could see them looking into Allen if they sign Ward and just letting him go if they sign Byrd. Between Allen and Jenkins, if it came to that, I’d just go with the cheaper option.

          • GEAGLE

            Jenkins is tne times better then Nate…and if we ever have better safeties and we bench Jenkins, he still will have a role in coverage subpackages…once Nate gets benched he is worthless…

            Btw, Nate has been our whipping boy for 4years, I could see him running away from philly as fast as he can

      • Stuart Philp

        We have Wolff and Allen as SS already, drafting dix lets him develop under Byrd for his first year and then take over so we could dump Byrds massive contract.

        • Joe from Easton

          I doubt Byrd is going to take a deal that will allow him to get dumped after one year. My guess is that any contract he signs will have guaranteed money (ie cap hit) for at least three years.

          • GEAGLE

            :30mil in Guarentees

        • Nfl All Day

          We have Wolfe and Chung. Allen is a Free Agent. Byrds deal will have from $15M to $25M or more guaranteed. He’s not a stop gap. He’s an anchor.

        • guest

          Sheep. Seeing it on the depth chart doesn’t make it so. Nate Allen is only a “Strong Safety” because Juan Castillo decided to switch the names of the two safety positions. In the NFL today there are very few “Free” or “Strong” safeties. You have to be able to do both jobs.

          But traditionally, Free Safety is the centerfield type. The guy that plays more in coverage. The Strong Safety is the guy in the box. The big hitter that focuses more on the run.

          You tell me which of those better describes Nate Allen.

          Plus, as the next commenter said…we dont have Allen at all.

          • CJ

            “You tell me which of those better describes Nate Allen.”

            Ummmmmmmm, can I choose neither?

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t even know how everyone can assume Nate would even talk to us lol. After how we treated him, I bet GB,The bengals, the saints who won’t spend big, the bears who under value the position, the dolphins could start to look like attractive landing spots for the kid lol

          • CJ

            Truth. If I were him, I’d want a fresh start. And if I were Howie, I’d want one too. Can’t see him coming back as a starter, and I think someone will give him that opportunity.

            He has skills, just didn’t work out here. It happens.

      • CJ

        I don’t know about that. Dix is can play the run and is more physical than his frame suggests. He’s been thrown out of games for some nasty hits since the NCAA started that, but learned to hit cleaner later in the season. I could see them playing well together.

        Besides, the way the Defense plays, there is no wide 9 front 4 that requires safeties to have run gaps. They can both cover a receiver and play deep middle, and Dix is a pretty good blitzer as well. I’d love seeing those 2 together back there. I think it’s a good complement, and with similar skills, there’s not really anyone better for Dix to learn from than Byrd.

  • Joe from Easton

    I love the situation the Eagles are in; young nucleus, plenty of cap space, and coming off of a division win. Unless they completely tank, they are set up for a few years of success. Trust Howie and Chip!

    • GEAGLE

      We are putting on a clinic of how to build a franchise

      • cliff henny

        the roster i’m picturing in my head being rolled out ’15 looks so damn nasty! honestly see no way Howie doesn’t crush this draft, it lays out like a pornstar on crack for Eagles. even if they don’t land ward/byrd, it’s not like there isn’t 4 or 5 other combo’s that wont greatly improve roster. that’s the beauty of a properly managed cap and roster, never pigeon-holed, or 1 decision doesn’t have rippling negative effects now and 3yrs down the road. haven’t felt this confident that there’s a parade coming to Philly since TO made that first play 80 yd TD catch. man, I was so obnoxious for days after that!

        • GEAGLE

          Lol totally agree, and trust me, I was at my all time high in terms of obnoxious the TO year, I was a senior in grad school acting like a 17yr old all year…2015 I’m picturing a nasty roster, nasty, a NASTY NASTY like lil Kim type nasty

    • travis papa

      I think another bargain basement signing could be Bruce Campbell the workout warrior from a few yrs ago. Raiders drafted him in the 4th & traded him to Carolina last season he didn’t play bc he tore his rotator cuff in preseason. Was an OT in college but has been moved to guard. 6’6″ 320lbs ran a 4.74 with a 1.7 split. 10.5″hands 36.25″arms 38reps. Could be had for probably vet minimum and could compete with herremans. That would give us the most athletic right side in all of football.

      • GEAGLE

        Oooh nice call. I’m going to add him to my list of batting average signings:
        ..
        Jamarri Lattimore ILB sub, ST stand out
        ..
        Corey Graham, replaces Colt as ST ACE, and backs up every position in the secondary while being our dime corner(since I expect to add a safety good enough to play Dime(if we want a dime defense, Ward is better then Byrd)

        Chris Cooks, Vikings BIG CB, 2010 draft bust

        Alex Carrington, bills interior pass rusher

        Crap, I’m starting to forget my own list lol…what other no name players do I always talk about?

        • GEAGLE

          Preferably Buchanon since I suspect he could be the best safety In this draft 3 years from now

          • Maggie

            There is no “h” in Bucannon.

          • GEAGLE

            Really? Had no idea. Just like I thought there was an O in FOles, isn’t Lyerla spelled Lyeria? smh, your worthiness to football debates has no boundaries..another Gem by Maggie. Tell me again how Jason peters is really a punter instead of a LT, and how we are going to overpay for golden Tate…

          • paul from nc

            Peters, he was left out of the opening discussion.

        • Eagles1018

          Wow…my wife calls me super fan. Not even close……

          • GEAGLE

            We ain’t doing another dream team..so if we want to have any clue about FA, better start getting accustomed to the depth players or we will be clueless….besides the safety we sign, and I guess possibly Haushka, I doubt we can expect Howie to sign any other household names…

        • UKEagle99

          You’d definitley be called for too many men on the field :p

      • Eagles4Life

        He went to my school. Dude is an animal. Oakland was not the best place for him to go and be developed. I think he could thrive in this system though.

        • travis papa

          If he could be a viable replacement for herremans that would be amazing. Screens and all kinds of stuff to that side. I hope he comes here & becomes Evan Mathis on the right side

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          He was a terp, right? I remember him, wouldn’t mind a cheap deal

          • Eagles4Life

            Indeed, he was. Cheap deal and kick the tires.

      • Andy124

        Those numbers are friggin ridiculous.

  • ohitsdom

    Can’t trust almost any of these mock drafts because they are all drafting based on need (defense- CB, S). Howie has shown he drafts based on value. So while I would rather have a safety than a DL, if the value isn’t close the team won’t force it.

  • Nfl All Day

    I might be alone on this, but the trio of Williams, Fletcher, and Boykin are better than serviceable. Considering they got squat for safety helpn and diddly squat for a passrush they held their own most games, and dominated Chicago, Dallas, and New Orleans down the stretch. Orton made his killing with the tight ends, Jeffery had 99 garbage yards against a soft defense with a big lead, and Graham and Colston never got in the stadium in the wild card game. CB is NOT the weakness of this team. For all the praise of Fletcher Cox, could he actually get to the damn QB. Hurries and knockdowns are great and sometimes effective. But considering Thornton doesnt excel at chasing qbs, we need more from the 12th overall pick than 3 sacks.

    • RIP illa

      Think you’re missing the point…well at least the points for fans on this site. It’s about depth, money, and the future. This is why we should sign and/or draft a CB or two. Most outside, and some inside, analyst go off the fact that our pass D was ranked 30th. There’s definitely credence to that fact, but as mentioned, it goes a little deeper.

      • Nfl All Day

        No I get not wanting to see Marsh/Rock back. I would just prefer our resources go to more immediate needs, and we draft a guy with great potential and size after round 4, groom him to take one of the outside jobs in a year or two.

        • RIP illa

          We only have two immediate needs, well really one glaring immediate need and one that just needs to be addressed…Safety and OLB.

          We can’t rely on C-Will and Fletch playing all 16 games. Fletch missed 3 last year. And our odds would be increased of finding a CB that can actually start and play well, eventually, if he’s drafted within the 1st 3 rounds. After 3, it becomes more of a crap shoot than it already is.

          Also there’s not a whole lot of “grooming”, well at least not how we tend to think, for the position. It’s not like the WR position where you’re spending more time on teaching how to run proper routes (and that’s not a whole lot of time either, but more so than teaching a DB how to stay low in his back pedal and open his hips fluidly, and how to play the ball in the air, etc). Coaches don’t have the time to go over proper technique, ad nauseam. This could probably explain a lot about Marsh, and why you don’t draft a kid who’s that raw despite size, height, and athleticism.

          So unless a guy who has 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round talent slips to 4, I’d recommend against it. And that has to be legit talent and the slip is due to injury or questions about the level of competition he played in college. But he has to show that he already posses the skills (not height, weight, speed) to be a consideration for a future starting spot. Examples of players that fit those requirements this year are Colvin, Gaines, Desir. McGill is an example of a players who doesn’t. And Yes I know about Seattle and there DBs.

          • Eagles4Life

            The only corner I’d want early would be Gilbert, and him falling to us ain’t looking too likely. OLB might be an option. After checking his pro day, I’d be even more willing to trade back and snag Dee Ford if this Dion Jordan pseudo saga doesn’t work out. The kid has good tape and that 6.8 in three cone changed my last bit of hesitation on him. That’s absolutely excellent for a pass rusher, and imo even more important than a straight line 40 time (which he also killed). May not be the biggest guy, but his suddenness/quickness and strength might be enough.

          • RIP illa

            If early means the 1st rd, then I’m with you. I was never a fan of drafting a corner in the 1st to begin with. I think there’s value in the 2nd and 3rd, but don’t like to many other prospects slated for later rounds, besides Colvin.
            I’m liking Ford and the Jordan trade scenario also (although who knows how likely the latter is). But I still have not made up my mind on which exact pass rusher we should go for if any, when put up against a more versatile OLB.

        • CJ

          Teams that draft for immediate need draft the Jaquan Jarrett and Brady Quinns of the world in the 2nd round. FA is for need. Draft is for the long term.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Yes but I think the point RIP is making is that adding a FA softens the dropoff after CW & Fletch to Marsh & Roc that we have now. It also doesn’t make you sole dependent on the rookie you draft should either CW or Fletch go down with an injury. So your then being wise with your money, covering your depth and also building towards the future.

    • GEAGLE

      No you are right…don’t listen to the media, we like Cary,Brad and boykin

    • CJ

      Once upon a time the Eagles were more than ok with Taylor and Vincent, and spent their first 2 picks on Sheppard and Brown anyway. Good teams don’t draft for immediate need, they draft for the future. While I don’t think a high CB is necessary, nothing would shock me.

  • PaoliBulldog

    “Defensively, there are holes for sure, and a few salary-cap cuts could cause a little more bloodletting.”

    Huh? Cutting Chung is hardly a cap-conserving bloodletting; it’s just getting rid of a bad player. Ryans may get restructured, but he ain’t gonna be cut for financial reasons. On the other side of the ball, Casey is probably looking at a pay cut or else, but he’s hardly irreplaceable.

    • guest

      He’s acknowledging the fact that these are people, with families and lives, that are being released. We just treat them like numbers.

      Also, consider the timing of the quote. Maclin hadn’t been signed yet. This means Avant hadn’t been cut yet. Thats who he is referring to. Its also before Roseman came out and said Ryans isn’t getting cut and his contract isn’t being restructured. But at that point, it was far from a given that Ryans would be back.

      And bloodletting doesn’t mean getting rid of great players. Bloodletting means getting rid of things you dont need

      • GEAGLE

        Ryan’s was only ever in doubt in the silly Media’s eyes

    • CJ

      Chung isn’t a bloddletting, that’s a mercy killing!

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Yeah that off-season “blueprint” was written in crayon by captain obvious. I think we all know what they have, a blueprint shows what is needed. Not that the majority of us didn’t know that either, but still…

  • G_WallyHunter

    This WTSATE is so focussed on Byrd, should we all be getting excited?
    No one really knows what Byrd values, do people think there’s a chance he takes a slightly lower deal to play for a team that will actually contend? Because if so the Eagles are primed to be that team. Him saying they’re heading in the right direction is certainly encouraging, and Dawkins probably told him how awesome of a city Philly is and that his efforts will be appreciated 10x more than they ever were in stinky Buffalo…
    Maybe he’d take the exact same deal buffalo offered him in Philly, who really knows, not many if not only him..

  • GEAGLE

    Listen you simple minded media FOCKS!!! The bucks have safeties named Barron and Goldson and because his father was hired Yous write this silly worthless crap? Wtf is wrong with people…a secondary with Barron, Goldson, Revis and probably peanut Tillmen ain’t aiding Byrd..you simple bastard. If I see one more media dope Linc Byrd to Bucs I will lose it

    • Vet Linc

      There’s no chance in hell you went to grad school with the way you write.

      • cliff henny

        9th comment, new guy comes out with unprovoked attack…upvote worthy in my book

        • GEAGLE

          Lol

        • Jerry Pomroy

          There’s one for you as well.

        • Andy124

          Well hell, it’s not like downvotes mean a shit anymore. I miss ‘em. Why bother leaving the arrow there?

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Happy to oblige.

          • Andy124

            Nobody can see it but you. For example, here’s one of your own.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I know. That’s why I responded. Since you missed ‘em I figured I’d give you one for the hell of it.

            Maybe we should just reply with “phantom down vote” to show our displeasure out in the open…

          • Andy124

            respond with a -1.
            Next person that wants to downvote replies with a -2 and so on.

            Seems childish. I like it.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            -1

            C’mon G, Cliff, RIP, Token, Maggie, Nick…Andy wants some down votes.

          • GEAGLE

            Phantom upvote for the suggestion

      • GEAGLE

        I did go to grad school enough to know that blogging and writing aren’t really the same thing, and since I spend 8 hours every day watching my diction in the real world, sorry I’m not going to write on a blog at a grad school level when I’d rather let my hair down
        .but wipe your mouth and get in the back of the line…the next response you will have to earn will a decent oppinion of football related terms..Maggie already has a monopoly on my cyber nuts..but welcome new cyber hoe..

        • Vet Linc

          Thanks for the, uh, clarity….

          “….the next response you will have to earn will a decent oppinion of feootball related terms….”

          But hey, that’s just you letting your hair down.

  • Jdubbs

    I heard we want to draft Cooks in 1st. And by “heard” I mean my gut feeling is that we will. And by “gut feeling” I mean I’d like to see it happen.

    EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED!!!

    • Eagle Dave

      Sign Byrd, Ward & Talib. Trade 1st rounder for Dion Jordan. Defense should be solid after that.

      • Mr. Wu

        you think? lol

        • GEAGLE

          Does it really matter? I heard Barry sanders was coming to backup shady

    • CJ

      Actually, even after Coop and Maclin, I’m expecting a WR in the first 2 rounds. And another TE at some point later (Lyerla, or even Sefarian-Jenkins now that he’s slipping), probably at the expense of Casey.

      Defense will get a boost in FA, and with 7 picks, I think they’ll be split about 50-50 between the units (with another OL thrown in for 3 guys on offense; 4 on defense, if not more after trades). You can’t expect Chip to go defense the whole way through. He’s gonna get himself at least one shiny new toy each draft.

      • GEAGLE

        Wouldn’t be surprised if we carry 4TEs

        • Andy124

          I don’t think we’ll have 4 active on gameday, but I’d put the odds over 50% that we have 4 on the 53.

          • GEAGLE

            Very possible

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Could you imagine us signing say a Jermichael Finley and running Celek, Ertz & Finley out there with Coop? Talk about big people beating up little people. That’d be big people eating little people.

          Not saying they sign Finley but needed another large body for my 3 TE analogy (wet dream if you will).

          • GEAGLE

            I thought about Pettigrew too from the lions

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I was gonna use Casey, but had to remember if he was still here… ;)

          • Andy124

            I think it’d be good competition to see which Casey is the better linebacker.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Not a bad idea!

          • RIP illa

            No thank you on him. Cant stand him and the way he plays or the lack of the way he plays.

      • Jdubbs

        Oh trust me. I’m serious. I would love a way to get Cooks in the draft without reaching for him early. I’m not sure why but I just like the guy. Think he’s a more natural for for the slot than any of our current guys now with Avant gone. And he brings a much needed boost to the return game in his first year while learning the offense and contributing more and more as the season wears on. Take into account Maclin is probably gone next year and he fact that he played against Chip a bunch and I think it’s a very real possibility.

        • GEAGLE

          I wouldn’t get caught up with the who will play the slot. I don’t think we operate that way and I expect everyone to see time In the slot with many of the snaps going to Ertz,,,with that said, cooks is a heckuva an athlete and quality football player..unless their are some Charecter or injury issues I don’t know about. He will certainly be on our big board, the problem is it’s a deep draft especially at that position so figuring out where we value him on our big board is the tricky part…
          Like take just 3 players for example. OBJ,Cooks and Mathews…I couldn’t friggin even guess the order in which those 3 comes off the board, and that’s just 3 players…I couldn’t even tell you if cooks gets drafted Before or after KB right now. This is a very very difficult draft to figure out, and because there are so many good options, I think the interview and Charecter will be what breaks a lot of ties in our evaluation, and it’s hard to know how it unfolds without being in the interview room

          • Jdubbs

            Avant played 75% of his snaps in the slot last year. This idea that this offense doesn’t have a designated “slot” player is a bit of a fallacy if you ask me.

          • GEAGLE

            Last year we didn’t have a world of options I expect us to have this year, and I think Ertz takes a MAJOR leap in year two, and he should probably see about 50% of his snaps in the slot, no? We only really had 3 WR that we wanted on the field last year. This year we might have 5

          • Jerry Pomroy

            He played 75% of “his” snaps in the slot. But when opposing defenses started going press man on the outside & crashing down on Shady inside, Avant sat and they went big with two TEs for a majority of the remainder of the season.

          • GEAGLE

            Don’t care how many great WRs we have, I still expect us to use 12 personel significantly more then last year

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Agreed, but I think we’ll also see the emergence of the F-Back, we all thought we’d see Casey utilized as.

          • GEAGLE

            Oh I absolutely agree. Fans are simple, they see a small role for Casey in year one! and act like there aren’t 16 more layers to Chips offense. we will build on last years offense, we certainly won’t be remaining stagnant under chip

          • CJ

            I’m really intrigued by how WR plays out in this draft. There are so many that teams could say, why draft WR now when the dropoff there is so minimal in the first 3 rounds vs another position, and Evans could fall right in our laps. Or, people could look at the grades and see them as too good to pass on, trigger a huge run and 4-6 could go in the first round.

            I have no idea which way it’ll go: Watkins is a top10 talent, but can a team with a top 10 pick and so many needs really take one that high when you can still probably get a day 1 starting WR in the first half of the second round? And there’ll almost without question be at least one of the top 10 WRs that outperform him and have a GMs fans and bosses questioning the investment of such a high pick at the position?

  • GEAGLE

    BYRD is done In Buffalo!!! They just extended SS Aaron Williams to a 26m extension..can the bills say “bye bye BYRDIE?”

    • NickS1

      Every bit helps. Even if I didn’t consider them a actual likely landing spot.

      • GEAGLE

        Yes sir..we can cross the Bucs and Bills off the list of our competitors.
        ..
        But I’m starting to get the feeling that Ward would be the real target. We will inquire about Byrd, and who knows how the hell he feels about us after spending time with Dawkins yesterday who I’m sure pitched us hard because for the past two weeks hhe as been all over TV talking about how great Byrd would be for the Eagles…I’m sure he made him aware that we have been starved for safety since Dawk left. As in serious Somalian type of malnourished at that position. I’m sure Dawk made him aware of what a GOD the next safety who is worth a damn will be in this city..Dawk spent time with Chip and the eagles so I’m sure he told Byrd all about how awesome we are, the sports science, and how safety is that true missing link to make us feared!!!!…so if Byrd decides he wants to come to philly. Not only would he save Chung’s job lol, but I’m sure we can work it out contractually.

        It’s pretty simple: does he sign with the highest bidder? Then we have no interest. IF he eliminates the crappy franchises with money from his wish list, then I think we become a serious player…but if he expects us to be outbidding Oakland and the jets, we probably laugh at him and tell him no thanks …it’s all about what he really wants. He will get, whatever that is

        • NickS1

          I won’t be upset if saves Chung’s job. And it’s not that I don’t want Ward, but SS isn’t the position we’re totally lacking at. I know he’s not bad in coverage at all, but we need ball-hawking not box-crowding. I would completely trust Wolff to start if he were starting opposite Byrd and his responsibility/space was a little more limited. Plus, that would foster his growth even more, keeping space limited and slowly expanding with comfort. That’s just my opinion, though.

          • GEAGLE

            Here’s the thing..if we are going to play bend but don’t break, keep you in front, tackle you short of the first down, he may even be a better fit then Byrd..

            I don’t really care which it is, just get one, we don’t have enough safeties under contract, so whoever they sign, they will have roster spots available to find his perfect compliment in the draft..I like Wolff, I just ain’t losing sleep if we don’t pencil him in as the starter for the next 5’years just yet, and if he ain’t the best compliment for Ward, who cares? He is a 5th round pick who I have no issues with sitting on our bench, especially since he will still be good enough to play in subpackages, evident by the fact that Billy wanted to play 3’safeties last year when we were lucky to have 1.5 worth of real safeties on our roster…so even if he goes to the bench because he isn’t best suited to play with Ward, Wolff will still have his role…we need like 18-19 defenders we can rotate in and out depending on subpackages…I don’t want to see for example, Meco playing 97% of the snaps especially when our offense always puts the defense on the field. We need depth players, and there are worst things then being so good at safety that Wolff becomes our 3rd safety

          • Andy124

            I’m thinking 9 years.

          • paul from nc

            Please no more Chung. Ward would be a better fit anyway

    • oreofestar

      yeah that pretty much made it official but I do not think that they were our biggest concern to begin with

  • Jay

    In 2012 the Birds selected Cox with their first pick. In 2013 they selected Johnson. You’re telling me they might draft Dix in 2014….? Are they trying to tell us something?

    • TheCatalyst

      Not like there’s a Box, Pie or Nookie in the draft…

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Now that was priceless. Bravo. Up vote well deserved.

    • CJ

      That’d be nice. It’d take the guesswork out of next year’s draft, too. It’d have to be Gurley, Strong, or Humphries unless someone drastically moves up.

      None really stand out as far as Johnson, Cox or Dix, so maybe they’ll just have to draft a Oregon State Beaver instead if one moves up the board.

    • UKEagle99

      They definitely want more penetration from their fronts.

    • Chris

      Don’t forget, they briefly employed Ed Wang before he was cut. It goes deeper than just the first round…

    • Nfl All Day

      They cut Wang last yr also

      • RIP illa

        That was a seriously sad day :-(

        • cliff henny

          nawh, was good for him, they kept jerking him around

    • GEAGLE

      I heard DEEZ NUTS ain’t coming out til the 2016 draft

    • Cheesesteak

      Gotta plug those gaps

    • FluxCapacitor

      I can’t breathe…funniest thing I read in a long time.

    • BigWhoopWannaFightAboutIt

      To be fair, in that scenario they are practicing more gender equality with Clit’n’Dix

    • myeaglescantwin

      this chain just made my afternoon.

    • paul from nc

      Great comment. Made a rainy cold night enjoyable

  • Token

    This story just keeps on going…..

    “Geoff Mosher of CSN Philly says on PFT Live he thinks Eagles WR DeSean Jackson could be “one false step away” from being cut.”

    • GEAGLE

      Cut?
      Lol Jesus…we cut TRADEable assets now? If Oakland made a generous offer for him at the combine! how the hell can someone report we would cut him? What’s wrong with the media?

      • OregonDucker

        It’s cheaper to cut him then take a $10.5 mil hit. The math works in favor of a cut then a trade – cut hit is $2 mil 2014 and 4$ mil 2015 see http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/05/desean-jackson-could-be-on-the-outs-in-philly/

        I suspect the drama with coaches and the suspicious $250,000 cash stolen from Jackson’s home is bothering Chip. I know many fans are upset with these reasons but they are BIG Chip deals; i.e. he wants player/coach camaraderie and does not want to read about big money drug deals with players.

        Don’t misunderstand my post, I am NOT a Djax hater. I am just trying to give you some info. Don’t be surprised if things go south with Djax.

        • GEAGLE

          I think getting two 2nd round picks, is worth the hit, and way better then just losing Desean Jackson. Sam Hinkie would not approve of cutting TRADEable assets lol. He understands that cap space is a tool that can be the difference between having to cut a TRADEable high value asset, and get value for him. I would keep 10mil free every single year if I could get a two second round picks for players we don’t want and will just discard

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Do you have any 2s?….Go fish.

          • GEAGLE

            As If we wouldn’t take a 10mil cap hit to get out of round two with: KVN,Maaaaarcus Darling and Buchannon, allowing us to take WRs in rounds 1’and 3….sounds well worth 10mil to me

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Who’s your trade partner you’re getting two 2s from?

          • RIP illa

            Raiders. He’s been on it since the report from the combine. I never saw the report and can’t remember if it came from a credible source of than Geags.

          • GEAGLE

            Allegedly the raiders offered it…but that’s appropriate value for Desean trade coming off last year..so if our TRASHY tmz media would stop spreading crap that devalues him in trades, I doubt it would be hard to find someone to give up two twos for Desean…If the Niners don’t win soon, they will have Andy Reid syndrom..the need WR and have more pics then they can keep, why wouldn’t they trade two twos For Desean?

            Worst case we get a two this year and a two next year

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I think Harbaugh would beat DJax’s ass if he got outta line.

            I dunno, despite his production I’d have to say that DJax isn’t as highly valued strictly due to his height. Some people just can’t see past that.

          • Andy124

            height… see past that… there’s a joke in there somewhere.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Actually there was but my wife was headed out the door for work & saying goodbye and I forgot the wink. I’ll edit…

          • Andy124

            I’ve got 1.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            How bout a 10?

          • Andy124

            Got one of those too. Will trade him to you for 2 2’s.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Deal. Go ahead Geagle, there are your two extra 2s… draft away

          • GEAGLE

            You just say that cuz you know I would draft all the players you want :)

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Do you think I’d give you the keys if I didn’t think you could drive? I’ll take Marcus, KVN & Buchannon & call it a day. But you’re only allowed to draft the second rd, not the 1st. You’d probably screw that one up and take an OG that was projected as a 3rd rounder…lol.

          • GEAGLE

            No, but I would screw it up and take all defenders and not give Yous the WRs you want!!!

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Not me bro. I don’t want a WR in rd 1. If I can’t get my OLB there & Pryor is off the board, I’m trading back like10 spots and picking up another 2 or 3.

          • OregonDucker

            Truth man.

        • RIP illa

          F Bicknell!!! Get rid of him instead and bring Avant back as WR coach no matter the cost!!!
          And if Chip is actually concerned with the reasons you mentioned…concerned enough to think about cutting Jackson, then maybe he does need to go back to college and coach young men who don’t have much of a say about anything, rather than trying to coach/lead grown ass men who help this team tremendously and have good off the field interactions (despite how the media likes to paint them)!

          • cliff henny

            Damn RIP, breathe dog, breeeeathe.

          • RIP illa

            Trying to. This ish is getting on my nerves, cuz whether true or not, it’s so damn stupid either way.

          • anon

            yeah he’s not greg schiano

          • Maggie

            All right, calm down. It’s just somebody thinking out loud, speculating. Same as we all do.

    • ochospantalones

      Such a ridiculous story. It’s probably true that they won’t actually keep all three of DeSean, Maclin, and Cooper long term, but there is no impetus to make a move right now. Why would a playoff team with $26 million in cap room cut their best receiver this off-season? If they need cap space for Foles, Cox, Kendricks and Boykins next off-season they can cut, trade, or renegotiate with DeSean then.

    • cliff henny

      the writers dont know enough about football, free agency, salary cap, etc to write columns without being spoonfed, unlike PM 24/7 duo and tommy L. they rehash BS for hits. it’s even worse now, cause Chip has disappeared all year, for most part. Howie’s talked for couple days, said nothing, and now he’s in full media silence mode. they had Vick to run crap up the flagpole, now it’s switched to biggest lightning rod, d-jax.

      • Token

        Maybe Geoff knows something we dont? Maybe Jackson is being a big dick behind the scenes?

        Youd save 6 mil this year if he was traded or cut, but it wouldnt make much sense. Even if they have decided hes not the future here, next year is way less dead money. He would have to be a huge locker room problem for Chip to want to get rid of him this year if it were to happen.

        • cliff henny

          no, I don’t think he does. really think d-jax could be doing anything behind the scenes? guy cant get a hangnail without full coverage.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol I doubt he is even in philly, and he most likely isn’t personally blowing up chips and Howies phone, making death threats about wanting to be paid more..if he ain’t in philly, and he ain’t personally calling Howie 600 times a day, wtf could he possibly be doing right now all the way from California, that we ain’t hearing about? Is there some sit up press conference with Cali Palm trees in the background of the driveway that I dont know about?
            ..
            Contract talks are made by his agent, who I’m sure conduct himsef professionally, so what could Desean possibly have done since the combine to spark all these rumors? NOTHING!!! Just BS click whoring…you are talking about Moesher, the dude who spend time writing about Lamarr Houston and how he may be a great fit to send Ced to the bench. Doubt THAT Geoff Mosher knows anything

          • Andy124

            DJax told Chip that Diamonds on My Neck must be played in practice every day. Chip was not amused.

          • cliff henny

            well, now that is a cuttable offense

          • RIP illa

            LMAO. Probably the only way that that song gets put in any kinda rotation.

          • GEAGLE

            That’s actually probably more realistic then what Geoff reports

          • anon

            DJ spends all his time in the booth.

          • Token

            Thats true. Moser is brutal.

        • RIP illa

          Coaching in the league is about managing and leading men, not ordering around little boys. No reports have ever been made saying that Djax causes unreasonable sized, TO and Pollard problems in the locker room. If he doesn’t get along with his WR coach, but still balls out, and the locker room is not suffering from it or being ripped apart…F’n deal with it and continue to win.
          These so called reports are doing nothing to keep the situation (if there is one) in check and are only serving to make DJax demeanor and the situation worse. So is the silence of Chip and Howie. There should be an affirmative dismissal of all these reports by the organization.

          • cliff henny

            OC vs top WR, it’s close, depends on coach….WR coach vs 1400 yd 10 td 4.2 40 wr…bye bye Bicknell

          • RIP illa

            OC wins out most of the time nowadays. I remember back when that would never happen. Still can’t beat out a good QB tho.

          • Andy124

            I disagree with the last sentence. That sets a bad precedent. Responding to every bs rumor serves as positive reinforcement for the rumor starter and spreaders and only invites more of the same.

            Kind of like you’re supposed to ignore your dog when they behave poorly. They (the media) must be trained properly.

          • RIP illa

            I would agree if these rumors, in particular, weren’t getting more and more persistent. And thus far they are. It’s already made national news. Disruptive rumors should be quelled immediately. Especially when we’re on the verge of owning the NFC East for the foreseeable future.

            Players are in a rung above us about how they get their info also. I say rung above us, because they can actually talk to the FO from time to time. But there’s been many a times where players here the news, concerning themselves, at around the same time we do. So unless DJax and Howie have already talked and put the issue to bed, then DJax is sitting reading/listening to the same rumors as we are and wondering what the F is going on, just like we are. That ish can easily play with a players head.

          • Andy124

            I was assuming the Howie and DJ were on the same page. If they’re not, they should be. In all seriousness, doesn’t Howie seem like the kind of guy that is going to hear these rumors and take the time to text DJ to tell him they’re bs?

            Better yet, send him a voicemail telling him that, with Diamonds playing in the background for added affect.

          • RIP illa

            Jesus man…lol. I would hope so. I think I’m going to download that song now, just cuz you brought it up so much.

          • Andy124

            Don’t steal it. DJ needs that money. Didn’t you hear he’s about to get cut?

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahahahahaha that’s awesome man

          • RIP illa

            Just saw DJax twitter/instagram post from way early this morn via BGN. Think it’s safe to say that it’s starting to F with him.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Or maybe he’s just ignoring it…

            “Life goes on”. Sounds dismissive to me.

          • Maggie

            Diamonds. Little Darlin’?

          • Andy124

            Just old. :) Abbreviating his song title: Diamonds on My Neck.

          • Maggie

            Or the rumors have some basis?

          • Maggie

            Since many people here want more draft choices and perhaps DJax wants to go to the West Coast (don’t blame him ;~), maybe he will be traded for several draft picks. Stranger things have happened.

      • Maggie

        If Chip really has disappeared from view, I wonder if he’s in the training room with Huls, dropping 50 pounds or so? Ryan did it, so why not? It might be an even better incentive for the players to listen. A somewhat chubby guy giving advice about fitness might cause a bit of reluctance. Especially since there seem to be quite a few coaches nowadays who work out regularly.

  • Maggie

    Who is “Stewart”?

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I was thinking the same thing but haven’t had a chance to check it out yet.

    • Andy124

      Darian Stewart. Safety from the Rams, undrafted our of South Carolina. 5’11” 215lbs and has 4 times as many career sacks as career interceptions.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Well that could mean he has 4 sacks & just 1 INT. 215lbs is pretty big for sub 6′.

        • Andy124

          That does mean he has 4 sacks and just 1 int. :)

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Without looking, sounds like a box SS…

          • Andy124

            Agreed. 5’11” 215 sounds pretty boxy to me too.

        • Eagles4Life

          Also could mean Robert Quinn was wrecking shop and there really isn’t much to the guy lol.

      • Maggie

        Thanks. Haven’t followed Rams at all lately. Could have checked their roster but was feeling lazy. Also my dog needed to go for a walk, lol.

        • Andy124

          Just to keep expectatinos low, I’ve never heard of the guy. Just looked him up.

          • cliff henny

            hey, I never heard of b-fletch, so…who knows

          • Andy124

            Do we still have ties with Steve Spagnulo? Maybe he can give us some inside information.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Sure I’ve got his number right here…

          • Andy124

            Tell ‘em you need the info for 124. He’ll know what’s up.

          • RIP illa

            Doesn’t Spags hate us? Or at that was the impression I got when we were pursuing him.

          • Andy124

            He may hate you. I’m sure he’s one of my biggest fans.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Doh! 124 is on a roll fellas.

          • Andy124

            Flyers traded a 2nd and 3rd for a lousy D man. I’m just trying to ease the pain.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Yeah I saw that this morning. No Webber. :(

          • GEAGLE

            Noooooooooo!!! I didn’t know :( booooo. Who is the defenseman they traded for?

          • Andy124

            Andy MacDonald. I know, hard to believe isn’t it? That someone with such an awesome name could be, statistically, one of the worst in the league?

            Hopefully Homer is right about him and everybody else is wrong. I know the Islander fans are laughing pretty hard right now. At least he’s not old (27).

            We also traded Mez to the Bruins for a 3rd rounder.

          • GEAGLE

            Can’t tell you the homicidal urge that just came over me to shoot the messenger!!! Like, my stomach just dropped reading that name….like the flyers are really trying to compete with the phillies for most dysfunctional organization? They are just better at putting lipstick on a pick(no offense Maggie) then ruin tomorrow junior

          • Jerry Pomroy

            But he’s second in the league in blocked shots…

            No, still no Weber. I won’t be happy until we get him, which typically means that he’ll be 35yo and over the hill.

          • RIP illa

            HA.

    • GEAGLE

      Think he was a fullback in high school

  • GEAGLE

    Pat angerer of the colts could be on of Howies knee injury low risk cheap fliers he seems to like to take chances on…back up ILB, cheap
    ..
    Not ever signing will be GUARENTEED a roster spot. Fans have to understand that we will always sign guys whom have to win a roster spot in camp or get cut..and like the Seahawks I expect to keep shuffling like the last two roster spots trying out new guys til we find gems that we want to stick…Injuries have killed this kid, but he could play before the foot and knee. If he signs for cheap, I wouldn’t mind taking a camp look at him…then again, the battle your way onto the roster type players is starting to be something Howie prefers to trade for…those our trash for your schematic trash trades..like Gaethers..we traded for him, but if he didn’t perform in camp,mwe would have had no problem cutting him

  • cliff henny

    one week, and right about now we’ll be flooded will breaking news. stay off Philly.com except for kempski’s humor and csnphilly trolling for hits. it’s going to be rocky with rumors.

    • GEAGLE

      This is literally like one of the most BS reporting times of the year…steelers cut Larry foote!Levi brown and extended polomalo and Heath Miller..
      ..
      Wonder if we can get a Clifton Gaethers type for Damaris out of KC?

  • GEAGLE

    It’s officially Brandon browner suspended the first quarter of the season…shocker

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Huh, I thought he was just reinstated??

      • GEAGLE

        Think it means he can practice but not sure…he was reinstated, but his penalty wasn’t announced yet..yes I know it makes no sense…he tweeted he was reinstated before hearing the penalty

    • anon

      i’d go after him try and get a howie contract

      • Jerry Pomroy

        As long as he’s cleared, so do I.

        • oreofestar

          Yeah I am down with that he will be dirt cheap and if he stays clean he may end up being our best corner

  • theKingDP

    Yeah, and they’re also trying to sign a guy named Byrd. Lol.