Free Agent Update: Options Open For Byrd, Ward

NFL: Miami Dolphins at Buffalo Bills

As recently as a couple days ago, it appeared the top two potential free-agent safeties would never get a chance to test the market.

But things have changed.


The Bills and Browns opted not to tag safeties Jairus Byrd and T.J. Ward, respectively. Both players can continue to work on negotiating long-term deals with their teams. But neither will be hand-cuffed. In other words, if they want to test the market, they will be allowed to do so.

Byrd is a classic deep-middle safety who is one of the best in the league at making plays on the ball. He patrols the area of the field in between the numbers and is a true ball-hawk. We did a full breakdown of his game last month.

Byrd is 27 and a three-time Pro Bowler. He played his college ball at Oregon, and for two seasons, Chip Kelly was the offensive coordinator on those Ducks teams. Byrd had plantar fasciitis in both of his feet last season and missed five games.

There are not many safeties in the league capable of doing what Byrd can do. He figures to command a big paycheck on the open market.

Ward, meanwhile, is a different type of player. He is one of the best safeties in the league against the run, consistently making plays near the line of scrimmage. Click here for our full breakdown of his game. Ward isn't the centerfield-type safety that Byrd is, but he is probably underrated in coverage.

The 27-year-old was a Pro Bowler last season and played one year at Oregon under (head coach) Kelly.

It's no secret that the Eagles need to upgrade at safety. Either player would instantly become the team's best safety since Brian Dawkins. The question will come down to what the Eagles think each player is worth.

Even with last week's re-signings, the Birds still have about $21.4M in cap space, per EaglesCap.com.

ORAKPO, WORILDS GET TAGGED

The Redskins used the franchise tag on Brian Orakpo, meaning he's not going anywhere.

The Steelers, meanwhile, used the transition tag on outside linebacker Jason Worilds. That means he'll get paid $9.754 million for one season, but other teams can still try to sign Worilds to a more lucrative deal. Pittsburgh, however, gets the opportunity to match any competing offer.

Bottom line: Monday's news means the safety market gets a boost and the outside linebacker market takes a dip.

The Eagles can start negotiating with free agents on March 8, and signings can become official at 4 p.m. on March 11.

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  • MediaMike

    Start the insanity……………… now!

  • Token

    Unless Byrd is a big A hole and I dont know about it, theres no reason Byrd should not be a Eagle. Pay the man. You couldnt ask for a more perfect safety for what this team needs right now. Money is no obstacle. They are swimming in it.

    • MediaMike

      The Skins are going to go 6 years / $60 million for him. Are you ok with going to that number for a safety?

      • Matthew

        Why would the Skins to that? They have so many needs and they just tied a big chunk to Orakpo. We need to worry about the Raiders and their 60 million

        • MediaMike

          Totally a possibility as well.

        • Token

          If he wanted big money he woulda stayed in Buffalo. they offered him money. I think the guy is tired of being on a deadbeat team.

          • MediaMike

            I don’t believe Buffalo offered him market (i.e. the most money ever paid to a safety) and low balled him vs. worse safeties.

          • Token

            Think it was reported they offered to make him one of the highest paid safeties.

          • MediaMike

            one of………… isn’t getting it done. He’s better than Goldson and Weddle who make $8.25 and $8 respectively.

          • Token

            Give him 9 then.

            Sometimes I feel people have been so beaten down by hearing about Jenkins that they dont fully realize how many steps Byrd is above a bum like that. If Jenkins gets 6 mil, Byrd is worth way more than 3 million more than Jenkins as a player. Money well spent.

            Like I said, unless theres something about his personality Im not aware of.

          • MediaMike

            If you can get him for 9, good for us. I’m also concerned with Cleveland in the mix. There is a strong possibility that Cleveland bids up Byrd and the Skins get Ward. Byrd > Ward > Goldson > Weddle.
            9 might get us Ward.

          • Token

            IMO Ward for 9 is highway robbery. Hes not worth near that on the field.

          • MediaMike

            Ward is better than Goldson and Weddle. Goldson just got 5 years / $41.5 or $42.5 million. Ward will start at $8.5 / year.

          • Token

            I wouldnt be so sure about that. Ward is very over hyped by fans. He is Goldson. Whom I also would have never paid that much for.

          • MediaMike

            Well, you would have needed to. Weddle, who is worse than Goldson and Ward, got $8 mil / year. And Ward is better than Goldson because he misses less tackles and draws less penalties.

          • Adam

            For the first two years of the contract. It dropped off after that.

          • Adam

            The deal was structured funny, so he’s going to test the market. He wants to be the highest paid safety for the duration of the contract. Winner doesn’t matter, he’s chasing the paper.

      • AJ Race

        where did you get your skins info from?

        • MediaMike

          Straight out of my rear end, to be honest. It’s totally a conjecture on my part. The Skins have horrible safety play and Snyder pays too much money for garbage.
          Just a guess.

          • CJ

            The fallacy in your argument is that they “pay too much for garbage”, while that is true, Byrd is not garbage.

            Mike Mitchell is destined for DC

          • MediaMike

            They pay too much for everything. I should have been more specific.

      • Token

        I dont know it will be that. But if it is, sure I would. Theres corners that get that. Safety is more important than corner. Give him the big number. Structure as a three year deal. Just get the guy here.

        • cliff henny

          nawh, there’s a number Eagles shouldnt go past. the only thing equal in nfl is salary cap. use it wisely, max it out. worst case byrd and ward push 3rd and 4th guy into eagles wheelhouse. and maybe allow for better Veteran corner.

          • Token

            Sure, if you want to be mediocre.

            After Byrd the safety market drops off significantly. Ward is over rated by fans of hitting safeties. Guy is effective on 2 downs. Byrd on 3.

            Its not my money and I trust Howie knows what hes doing with contracts. They have way more than enough money to sign Byrd. Eagles are not even in the ballpark of having cap troubles. Not anywhere close.

            I want to win a SB. Dont care as much about a cap bowl. We have won enough of those.

          • cliff henny

            he want 5yrs45m, i’m good, but not setting20% over the market, then have issue it creates inhouse. 9-9.5m, sure, it gets up in11m-12m, that’s bad business.

          • Token

            Wow that would be a good deal.

            I dont get the worry about money. They could sign multiple high priced FAs if they wanted to, let alone one. It will have no impact on signing our role players next year.

            Ill take a difference maker at 9 mil over a average role player at 6.

          • Maggie

            Cliff is trying to make the point that overpaying one player may cause hard feelings in the locker room. Hard feelings in the locker room does not win Super Bowls.

          • CJ

            Won’t b in house issues here like the dream team. Took care of those with Coop, Mac, Kelce, and Peters first, as it should be. There is no Db on this team that’s eligible for an extension that can hold Byrd’s jock. No in house issues, no bad business. A too 5 players at his position comes free in Fa during his prime just about never. Break the bank.

          • peteike

            haha, cap bowl. Nice, so true, pay the man. How nice would it be if we drafted Pryor and signed Byrd to go into camp.

          • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

            Amen @peteike:disqus if that happens imagine the possibilities. Pryor lighting up receivers over the middle while Byrd is picking off passes. Teams having to think twice about our Safeties is something teams haven’t had to do in a LONG time.

          • Richard Colton

            The days of Andre Waters and Wes Hopkins are over. Sadly. I’d settle for a couple of FS/SS types who can blanket big receivers and come up and support the run.

          • GEAGLE

            Pollard signed to. Two year deal today because he likes the tone he set…Kam Chancellor punished dudes on the way to a Super Bowl, you can still add a hitter, as long as you have a quality cover guy and subpackages alternatives

          • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

            We get that kind of production from our safeties, I’d be a happy camper RC. It’s the least we could ask for.

          • Maggie

            Not Pryor.

          • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

            Fan of HaHa Clinton-Dix? why no love for Pryor? If not Pryor in the 1st Jimmie ward could also be on the radar in the second.

          • Maggie

            Nice to dream, but I bet if you check out the boards of half the teams in the league, they’re all dreaming too. Intense competition will drive up the price, like it has for quarterbacks.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I’m right there with you. If Byrd can’t be had for a somewhat reasonable number ($10M & under), I refocus to next S tier down & also add a vet CB (preferably a younger one) that can challenge the guys we have for starting or be less of a drop off as the 3rd CB on outside. Then I’m looking to draft a young guy at one of the two spots.

      • TNA

        There are reports that Jets are going to also go after Byrd/Ward.

        • Tikkit

          I’m just wondering which guy wants $$$ regardless of the dumpster fire team that they might be playing for. Hopefully they’d rather play for an up and coming contender.

          • Maggie

            Some might like to play in NYC as well. Endless endorsement deals, etc. Not everything about the Jets is awful. Ryan likes himself some good defense, don’t forget.

          • oreofestar

            Assuming Byrd wants to win he is gonna sign for a good team not another mediocre one in his division that does not have a chance of beating NE

          • Maggie

            Is NE going to be unbeatable for much longer? How old is Brady? Where have all their receivers and TEs gone? What is the average age of the whole team? The defense? Remember, they haven’t won anything much outside of their division for 10 years, no matter the “elite” tags.

          • oreofestar

            I am just saying Jairus Byrd is not going to waste his prime on a team like the Jets that is not going to win soon

      • CJ

        With the way Roseman writes contracts? Yes, actually, I am.

        • MediaMike

          That is totally plausible. I just see Weddle @ 8 mil / year and Goldson @ $8.25 a year and know that Byrd is significantly better than both.

      • Joe from Easton

        The guy wants to win. Why the hell would he go to that debacle in Washington? He’ll get a top 3 contract with a contender and be quite happy about it. Whether or not that is the Eagles is yet to be determined, obviously.

        • MediaMike

          Not wanting to sign with the Bills at below market and “wants to win” are two totally different concepts. I’ll believe he’s taking under market value when I see it.

      • GreenScabs

        The Redskins aren’t going to offer anywhere close to that. They just now got out of cap hell after four years of working the roster, they’re not going to completely throw caution to the wind again with a contract like that. Plus they just franchised Orakpo, and unless they iron out a long term contract by next week with him they will be under $17 million in cap space. The Redskins need O-Line help more than any other position to protect the QB that is on the verge of being a huge draft bust considering what they gave up to get him.

        If they were to sign Byrd for that amount it would leave them with under $3 million in cap space after signing their draft picks (even without a 1st rounder). They don’t have a starting caliber RILB on their roster, a terrible O-Line at every position with the exception of Trent Williams (no matter how much they think they Lichtensteiger is a worthy Guard. He is not), secondary is terrible to below average at every position (including Hall who is wildly overrated in D.C., he makes a few INT’s, but gets burnt more often than any other starting CB in the league. This is why he ranked 84th out of 105 qualifying CB’s in the league last year according to PFF), they have no pass catchers outside of Garçon (I’m not convinced Jordan Reed is the next Tony Gonzalez like everyone in D.C. will tell you. He was a rookie who had some nice games and then got a concussion and missed the last half of the season. And you need two TE’s in this league, not just one completely unproven 2nd year guy), and lastly they need upgrades at the DE position considering they generated 2.5 sacks from their starting DE’s last year.

        They entire roster needs a complete overhaul, and they’re not going to achieve that by bringing in one new player, and that one player being a FS.

      • Jeff Asay

        I’m buying into the Howie thinking of not overpaying due to locker-room issues. Can offer more guaranteed, do they want to play for Kelly, and do they want to win with 20 million in the bank or lose with 30 million in the bank? Maybe that spread is absurdly large, but that’s the angle I’m taking if I’m Howie.

        • CJ

          I look at it different. I buy into the thinking that he learned from that, and is being proactive in addressing that perception by handing out $100M+ in new deals to current players, before he goes and gets his guy in FA.

          You can’t never overpay because you’re afraid of locker room issues and never get the difference maker you need.

  • CJ

    Just remember all…for erections lasting longer than 4 hours, please consult your physician.

    • MediaMike

      ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    • cliff henny

      what if she’s the reason? just be a vicious circle of blue balls

      • Joe from Easton

        That’s why I just say no to female doctors.

        • MediaMike

          Cliff would say yes.

          • cliff henny

            Damn skippy! they know anatomy. date a nurse, you’ll shoot rockets! i’m 42, past my prime, just helping the kids out there in pm24/7 land. trust me, date an ER nurse, they’ve seen and done worse than you can ever request

          • Richard Colton

            I’m officially afraid of you now Cliff. But who else is going to manage the 24/7 cap on short notice?

          • cliff henny

            probably should be. found out about a month ago, my ex became a dominatrix about a year after we broke up. wasn’t really that much of a shock…mean once a week I can remember saying ‘you wanna do what?!’ true story

          • Richard Colton

            Considering you became an Eagles fan during the Norman Braman years, I shouldn’t be surprised. How did she tell you? I’m picturing the scene from “Old School”

          • GEAGLE

            I’m engaged to a nurse fool lol

          • cliff henny

            then you know I speak the truth. just trying to help the kids out there.

          • GEAGLE

            No comment…lol as I flash a devilish grin

          • Dr Rick

            Too true!

            ROFLMAO

      • CJ

        I’m sure she could help you with that one way or another

    • Maggie

      Well, fellas, if signing a football player is what it takes to arouse you, I feel really sorry for your mates. ;~p

  • Rick H

    I just saw Jairus Byrd leaving Buffalo in a Brinks Truck! Destination tbd…

    • MediaMike

      Consider Cleveland. Reunion with Pettine and the Browns have a ton of cap room.

      • peteike

        If he hated playing for the BIlls why would he follow that coach to another deadbeat franchise? Im sure somewhere it says he got along great with coach but you know what Im saying. Im not buying Cleveland as an option. Why not just pay the guy that you already have since they are both good. I guess new system etc, anyones guess. I just think if he wants out of a bad team, Cleveland isnt ideal. Many players just want to win and they can still make lots of dough

        • MediaMike

          Assuming anything other than he’s not going back to Buffalo is risky. I’m not staying up late at night expecting him to sign below market for a better situation. Buffalo is notoriously cheap and notice how they’re not saying they offered him the biggest safety contract ever as part of their excuse making.

          • peteike

            right, Im just thinking he gets paid top dollar and has some options regardless. Structuring deals and bonuses to take slightly less on a contending team is def an option.

          • MediaMike

            You could be right, but I’m not totally convinced he does that.

      • Rick H

        I guess “winning isn’t the only thing for Byrd then” I think he wants to win and soon but I am guessing like everyone else. The truth is Byrd and his agent already know which 5 or 6 teams are going to pay him the $$$!

        • MediaMike

          THIS!
          The tampering already took place at the combine.

          • Rick H

            Tampering??? They probably had the rough draft of the contract written when his agent got to the combine ha ha. Come this weekend we will find out who wrote the contract and the BIG check!

  • GEAGLE

    Why would I care about OLBs when we will aquire Dion Jordan? Anyone know who TJ Wards agent is? Eagles need to negotiate with both safeties and sign the one that wants to be an eagle the most(reflecting in the negotiations)…if both say they are signing with whoever offers the most, I tell both to F OFF…if you are willing to go to Oakland or the jets then you don’t get what we are building in philly and you don’t belong in our locker room

    • MediaMike

      Kempski just tweeted the Dolphins just told the Eagles to get bent when they called about Jordan.

      • Token

        Thank god.

      • NickS1

        I guess no one wants Brandon Graham :(

        • peteike

          they said “who?, what draft class?” haha

        • cliff henny

          guess the bamiro and barbe sweeteners didn’t help.

          • NickS1

            They’ll come around. Have to balk at first offer.

          • Richard Colton

            they said “Dennis Kelley or we walk”

        • GEAGLE

          Doubt we called him right now, because it’s just not trading season. A Dion trade wouldn’t Come til draft day, when Miami still is missing 3 starting OL after free agency, they see how the first 15 picks shake out and see who will be available at 22
          ..,
          Doubt we called them today, and if we did it’s such a preliminary discussion that we probably lowballed a 3rd rd pick and BG offer….Dion not being traded today means absolutely nothing

      • Jerry Pomroy

        He also mentioned that Anthony Gargano was the one reporting that on WIP.

        • GEAGLE

          Gargano and Howie are pretty tight.tho

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Just citing that Kempski wasn’t the source but rather passing on what he’d heard Gargano say on radio.

          • GEAGLE

            I know, just trying to shamelessly hold on to what glimmer of hope I have left…isn’t rationalizing part of some 12 step program, or is that one of the steps of the grief process? Lol

      • GEAGLE

        Why would I care? Jimmy sold his soul for clicks, and wrote that Desean garbage…credibility shot in my eyes…

    • bugsy

      I like your thinking my man

  • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

    I would have to believe we get 1 of the 2. There is no way Chip lets one of his old players (who are proven in the NFL and actually better than another one of his other former players…see. Patrick Chung) leave Philly without a deal…writing this as I throw money into a wishing well.

    • MediaMike

      I’d love to see one of those guys here and I’ll add some coins into that well with you, but I don’t see it happening.

      • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

        That’s a ton of money to throw at the Safety position which is my biggest concern, Pass rush is a major need too. But Mike it’s just too good to be true for both of them to hit free agency. Most of us thought both would be signed or tagged already. My off season strategy has been sign 1 of the 2 and draft a Safety…life would be complete with a strong back end to this Eagle secondary.

        • Jerry Pomroy

          Honestly, while I’d love to have one of them (more so Byrd), I’d be ok with one of the next guys down the ladder ONLY if they added that ROLB that can wreak havoc in the backfield & brought in a solid CB that could challenge the guys we already have or not be a drop off as the 3rd CB on the outside.

        • Eagles1018

          With a strong back field on defense the pass rush becomes better. (Please see the Seattle Seahawks). If you have one or the other your defense can be effective

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Very true as they can compliment each other. However a big key to success in any defensive scheme is being strong up front in your pass rush and in your secondary coverage. Both spots where we were marginal last year.

          • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

            Agreed @Eagle1018 it’s funny how every body is trying to copy the Seahawks Safeties tandom…when we could have easily had good ol Earl T.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      Hopefully it wasn’t $9M…But if it was, where is that wishing well??

  • 76mustang

    Well….we could sign both Byrd and Ward and be done with it…ha!

  • Jerry Pomroy

    In other news: Chip Kelly in attendance at Pitt pro day today.

    • cliff henny

      besides Aaron Donald, why?

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I guess there is always someone else that they could be looking at. I should note that Bill O’Brien was there as well today checking out his old stomping grounds.

        • cliff henny

          Chip just needs to be front and center at LSU and FSU.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            While he’s down that way, maybe he should pay a visit to a certain 6’6″ – 260lb former player of his to convince him to get his agent to pressure his current FO into a trade.

          • oreofestar

            and Lousiville gotta check out Pryor and Smith

      • RIP illa

        Does there need to be a reason besides Donald??? Naw, we may never know, or we could know come draft time. Donald didn’t really workout 2day and just stood on his magnificent combine numbers.

        • oreofestar

          Shaq Evans?

          • RIP illa

            Maybe. I don’t like him too much for some reason, but what do I know! He fits the kind of player Chil likes at wideout.

          • oreofestar

            I do not like him either but maybe him and Donald were enough of a reason to stop in

          • RIP illa

            Correction for the both of us. Pitts’ main receiver was Street. But I still don’t like Evans.

          • oreofestar

            Oh guess I confused them

        • GEAGLE

          There better be a reason beside Donald cuz he won’t last

    • MediaMike

      That’ll be one of the last years anybody needs to attend that pro day. James Franklin and Penn State are going to OWN THE STATE!

    • RIP illa

      Told y’all awhile ago. With the 22nd pick in the draft, the Eagles select…ROLB A-a-Ron Donald! Lol.

      • Maggie

        They could do worse. I liked what I saw of A-a-Ron too. I also wouldn’t be too surprised if somebody from the Eagles attended every Pro Day. Due diligence, people. While everybody here seems to be emotionally attached to somebody in the draft, the FO probably is not.

        • GEAGLE

          Aaron Donald? The cornerback right?

      • Tom W

        He plays dtackle d end is a stretch and he is too short for olb in the 3 4. He isn’t getting past cowboyz anyway

        • GEAGLE

          How the hell are people talking about him at OLB? Am I missing something?

          • Tom W

            No I was wondering the same thing but I can’t be a dick all the time

          • GEAGLE

            I’ll gladly pick up the slack when you are off your, being a dick game :)

        • RIP illa

          Wow…you guys are bit dim today!!!

      • Tom W

        Chip goes to a lot of prodays

        • RIP illa

          Maybe. Yet he chose to go to Pitts’ over Ole Miss’. Sent Bicknell to check up on Moncrief, while he checked up on Fonald and company. And the only WR their to make any kinda noise was Devin Street. And if he’s their making Street a priority, then I’d seriously question his time management skills!!!

          And since you and Geagle take yourselves way, and I mean way to seriously…The Donald at ROLB, is my joke from the combine since he posted up overall superior numbers and performances in drills than a large majority of the LBs who went through the day. And was superior while weighing 15-20lbs more and only being strictly a DT!

          • Tom W

            Thanks for personal attack. I still think you are one of the better college football talent evaluators on here.
            Don’t even see where we would play donald unless we switched to a 4-3 under and even then we still have cox. we would have to go back to a 4-3. hope he goes before cowboyz pick

  • TNA

    In addition to all the contract details, Byrd and Ward should know that if the team wins a SB, they’ll be able to eat for free for the rest of their life in Philly. That’s got to be worth at least a $2 million bonus right there.

  • Adam

    Buffalo tried to structure their deal with Byrd to protect themselves a few years into the contract, much like Howie does. He turned it down. I’m guessing some team is going to overbid for Byrd, but I just don’t see it being the Eagles.

    • peteike

      probably right, damnit why you gotta be so rational and bring us down haha. I actually dont see Howie over paying or even being okay with a somewhat bloated deal. Keeps saying he wants to spend wisely. I just hope its not to the detriment. Seems like safety is the one position a GM should be willing to spend esp with where this team is now in building process. It just fits and makes sense.

    • GEAGLE

      While i won’t dispute what you are saying, there was simply nothing buffalo could do to keep him long term. He wants out. Same exact situation happened when Byrds agent forced JAson peters way out of buffalo..if he signs with the jets, raiders, browns and they are the highest bidder, you will prove correct, but I don’t think you have enough intel to say he will just sign for the highest bidder, because no amount of money woulda kept him in buffalo

      • Adam

        Based on?

        • GEAGLE

          Have you paid attention these past two years? Buffalo is still trying to negotiate with him right now, and I promise there is nothing they can offer to keep him

          • Adam

            Byrd won’t stay in Buffalo because they aren’t willing to make him the highest paid safety for the duration of his contract. Their last offer was “one of the highest paid” for “part of the contract”. He’s said nothing about wanting to play for a contender or wanting to play for a better team. Buffalo being dysfunctional is irrelevant. Oakland is dysfunctional. So is Cleveland. and NY. But if they write the biggest cheque, he’ll go there.

          • GEAGLE

            If they offered him to make him the higher paid safety for two years, he turned it down, yet they are STILL friggin negotiating Longterm! it’s safe to say they will offer him more no? And he will still say no, no matter how much higher they go…
            ..
            The news is, Byrd wasn’t tagged, NOT that he is free from buffalo and that they aren’t still trying to sign him

            Alex Carrington is going to leave them to, why? Because the Bills and Eugene Parker will never get a deal done, not now, not next year, probably doesn’t even matter the player lol

          • GEAGLE

            Crickets lol

          • oreofestar

            If Byrd wants too much move onto Ward, if you you can get him Dashon money or a little less that is still great

          • GEAGLE

            Negotiate both, pick the one that wants to compromise more to be an eagle…Chip was an OC when Byrd was there, Chip was a HC for one of wards years, chances are Ward is more impressed with Chip then Byrd is, how often did Byrd interact with an offensive coordinator? Ward got to see the way Chip runs a team, his sports science program…if one were to compromise to be here, I would guess it’s Ward, even if I prefer The centerfielder, tho Ward is prob the second best cover guy, it’s just simple people don’t realize it cuz he is a hitting machine..Ward can cover his ass off man to man

          • oreofestar

            I prefer Ward personally because I know he will be cheaper I would love the Eagles to sneak off with Ward and have WAS, OAK, MIN and everyone else kill each other for Byrd but for the right price I of course would like Byrd

          • cliff henny

            doesn’t Davis love Ward? if character counts, cant get much better than current DC vouching for player

          • oreofestar

            I do not know, but I LOVE WARD!

          • cliff henny

            well, all I know is i hate allen and chung, so right about now, anyone competent looks like Ronnie lott

          • GEAGLE

            Yes sir, and Ward had Chip as a HC, where as Byrd only had him as an OC

          • Tom W

            Your making an assumption … What if no one matches buffalo do you think he is going back??? It’s been said by the local beat guys there was no offer that was going to keep Byrd there and he expressed displeasure last yr. to just say he is going to take the biggest check isn’t supportable ….

          • Adam

            http://nfl.si.com/2013/07/15/jairus-byrd-nfls-highest-paid-safety-buffalo-bills/

            I’ll wait for your link to show me anything that says Byrd will take a lower offer to play for a contender.

          • GEAGLE

            Past two years, on ATleast 3 different occasion I heard him speak about it not being all about money, him wanting a BIG MARKET contender…not just a contender, but a BIG MARKET…and I think I’m credible enough to where I don’t have to spend half hour looking for interviews I saw a year ago…this dance has been going on for two friggin years,,,his agent was looking for trade partners this year

          • Adam

            You think your credible enough? lol Ok bud. Have a good night.

          • GEAGLE

            Guess I talk out my ass, and post ish that’s not true..smh

    • Tom W

      He doesn’t want to be in buffalo. It’s a mess. He wants money and to play for a contender. Nothing buffalo was going to do was going to keep him. Cannot say for sure Byrd won’t come here based on passing on buffalo offers. Could just as easily be bc buffalo is a sorry franchise.

      • Adam

        When did he say that?

        • oreofestar

          Who knows right now it is anyone’s guess but the thought is he did not turn down a massive contract simply because of its contents he may want to win

        • Tom W

          The local beat guys who reported things over the last 72 hrs said there was basically nothing buffalo could do to keep him here signaling he wanted out and to test free agency. A fair amount of reports also serviced last yr that he wanted to get out of buffalo last yr rather than being tagged bc he was on his fourth defensive coordinator in 6 yrs

        • GEAGLE

          For the past two friggin years?!!!!

    • Tom W

      And if raiders overpay so be it, let him walk but it won’t be because we didn’t give him a market offer … If someone wants to give him fu money and all he wants to do is get paid as much as possible vs playing for a contender then so be it we don’t want him anyway. I don’t want to overpay for him either but 5 for 43-45 mil and 24-28 guaranteed is highest paid safety on his second contract and most guaranteed

    • Tom W

      Actually I don’t think that is accurate either. Buffalo supposedly tried to give him a high salary the first three yrs and drop it te last two yrs. nothing to do w guaranteed money. I don’t know one eagles contract like that and I know most of them. eagles never do that. Eagles front load the guaranteed money they give players and pay it off in 2 or three years and actually have a big salary number in year 5 w no dead money that gives them an out or point to renegotiate

  • oreofestar

    This is insane!!! They are both free and One of the them has to come to Philly if Byrd or Ward wants to be in Philly make it happen!!! F*** YOU CLEMONS, JENKINS AND MITCHELL

  • oreofestar

    I am shocked the Steelers tagged Worilds he is not worth more than 6 mil IMO

    • GEAGLE

      Told u he wouldn’t hit the market, but I was expecting a LNG term commitment,mbut when you think about it, it’s better to overpay him on a one year deal, see him in a Longterm prominent role before you commit to him Longterm

      • oreofestar

        I could not care less about Worilds anyway I am just glad to know Byrd and Ward are free Geagle no more talking about Malcolm Jenkins and Chris Clemons

        • GEAGLE

          Shhhh don’t even say those names bud, we have HOPE!!!

          • oreofestar

            I have gotten my hopes up to the point that if Byrd or Ward is not on our roster in 200 hours I will be utterly disappointed

          • GEAGLE

            Your telling me..props for being committed to the cause and adding up the hours

          • oreofestar

            well 200 hours is 6am next Wed, so hopefully before then

  • Token

    NFL is considering moving XP back to a 42 yarder. lol. An extra point would be out of Henerys range.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000330411/article/nfl-might-experiment-with-longer-extrapoint-attempts-in-preseason

    Something should be done. XPs are pointless. Either do this or makes TDs 7 points and if you go for two and dont get it then you get 6 points. Something.

    Im all for making kickers less and less a part of the NFL. Lets make that happen.

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I mentioned this same the thing a couple of days back. A PAT is the absolute worst part about football. I say if you don’t do away with it all together (my preference), not only move it back but also shorten the distance between the LOS & the kick by about 2yds or so allowing more opportunities for blocks. Make kickers earn their paychecks & teams earn that extra point. I also agree that if they eliminate the PAT a failed 2pt conversion should take a point away from the 7pt TD.

  • Rick H

    Thee NFL cap is going to increase significantly in 2015 and 2016 up to 150 million supposedly. So with that in mind the Eagles are smart enough and have done so in the past to make this happen. They will structure deals so they can pay the highest priced safety. Next year Boykin will have to be paid which he should be very well. Then Williams & Fletcher will be replaced by rookies drafted this year and next season
    So that helps the salary cap and keeeping the positive culture in the locker room. From the financial side looking forward 2 years after this season you can see that the Eagles can go after the big time $$$ safety.

  • MoreViolence

    Completely off topic but I couldn’t help but share this Gem..http://www.theboobirds.com/images/Jeffrey-Lurie-philadelphia-eagles-owner.jpg

    • Dr rick

      That’s great, as long as he doesn’t go all Jerry Jones on us. Owners should be owners, GMs should be GMs, coaches coach and players play.

      • MoreViolence

        I doubt he’ll pull a Jerruh I mean he’s had so much more success allowing the proper people handle the football decisions

  • oreofestar

    Browns tagged Mack so obviously Ward is not the priority, Hopefully him or Byrd comes I HOPE!

    • anon

      Tagging mack is crazy, paying a center left tackle money? More things jchange the more they stay the same with that organization.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Tough luck for them. They’ve got a talented squad too that’s a few pieces away from being a really good team if coached and managed somewhat properly.

  • Maggie

    So many here seem to be in favor of offering a 5-year deal to Byrd for some obscene amount of money? Why? Only if the first couple are guaranteed and he probably won’t accept that. Just because he is considered the best now, who’s to say in 2 or 3 years he won’t be bypassed, especially with the emphasis on safety now? With the dollars increasing and the safety position becoming more glamorous, there will be more hotshot fast young athletes wanting to play the position, rather than always looking at corner. just a thought.

    • Tom W

      Really not a cogent argument. Market price for a top 5 safety who is a top 3 safety isn’t obscene … It’s actually proper. And any player in the nfl may be worse two yrs from now … So what we should never sign any free agent bc they may decline in two yrs? Well that can’t be right. And no contract in the nfl is completely guaranteed … At most have is…. Eagles just pay it all early rather than spread it out. The bills wanted to give him a big salary for three yrs and less the last two. Nothing was revealed about the guaranteed money offered him

  • David J Daniels

    Free Agency this year is simple: Sign both Ward and Byrd and do nothing else. If you can trade for Dion, fine…if not, fine. 7 draft picks should be 1st rd WR, then 6 defensive players of all shapes and sizes. Simple plan for our Super Bowl run.

    • Tom W

      Don’t need both and probably don’t have the cash to withstand two 8 million dollar deals w 40 mil guaranteed atleast

      • oreofestar

        Hopefully we get one and pair them with Pryor and Wolffe

        • GEAGLE

          If we can’t have Byrd, I want Ward and Jenkins in coverage, but we may be high enough on Wolff to not sign two but wishful thinking…I like Jenkins as someone we sign, bench and use in subpackages lol, but I’m sure we can find cheaper options

          • oreofestar

            If we can not get Byrd just get me Ward and then you either resign Nate or you get Wolff and a rookie to compete for the spot along side Ward

  • DAS

    Not sure why people want a safety combination of Ward/Pryor. Both are in-the-box type players. Meanwhile, both Byrd and Clinton-Dix are more deep, ball hawk type safeties. It would make more sense to combine Byrd with Pryor, or Ward with Clinton-Dix…

  • phillylove21

    We can afford one big safety free agent Ward/Byrd.. Did everyone forget about Wolff? Its his injury right? He played pretty damn good after his first couple games.. If we can get a safety in the first three rounds to complement ward/bryd and Wolff , we’ll be fine, “Remind you we play three safety rotation”. Wolff or a safety from the draft will determine what we need to move forward on our back side..

    • oreofestar

      If we get Ward of Byrd and and either resign Nate or draft safety n the first 3 rounds we will be fine

      • phillylove21

        I believe wolff has better upside than Allen.. I feel we let Nate go unless he wants to come back for under that $4million.. We have other needs then to go and sign two safety’s.. So that’s 6-7 safety’s.. Why? 5-6 saftey’s is enough..

        • oreofestar

          Chung is getting cut so we essentially only have Wolff unless you count Johnson but he is never seeing the field so why even count him

          • phillylove21

            Chung wont be here and if so then i see us signing allen instead.. Ward/Byrd, draft pick, wolff, phillips, and, Johnson.. Did you see nate Allen do something he hasn’t done since his rookie season being drafted out of USF? I’ll wait…..

  • Dr Rick

    As long as we’re on the topic of Safeties, this kid looks good as a 3rd round, maybe 2nd round pick.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deone_Bucannon

  • DoctorRick

    Bird or Ward, either one is a big step up. But we need some rookies in the pipeline.

    Note the *new and improved* username

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Peter King has a lot of traffic on Twitter regarding the PAT discussion.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Thoughts on this latest crack at uniform design? I really like the color and those numbers are reminiscent of the “E” in the Eagles tag logo. But the pseudo mechanical minimalist looking wings…ehh, not a fan. I’ve always thought that a 3D face of an eagle on the front of the helmet with wings spanned out across the sides (for TV viewing angles) would be SWEET. Something more along the lines of a hockey goalie mask graphics using more of the helmet.

    http://www.brobible.com/sports/article/32-nfl-team-uniforms-redesigned-2014/

    I think we’re overdue for an update on the unis though. C’mon Lurie & Smolinski already!

    • oreofestar

      I am actually fine with our current unis, maybe that is just me

  • hillbillybirdsfan

    I like both of these guys but would rather them go after Byrd simply because his type of skills do not hit the market in their prime very often. I think taking a shot at Byrd is a defensible move. Load that sucker up and give him his money the first year so it’s out of the way. They’re not close to the cap at this point. I realize that different positions have different values, but exceptions can and have been made for every team. They already have our money and I’d rather them give it to talented players than put it in their pockets, regardless of how close or far away they may be to Super Bowl contention.

  • Nfl All Day

    Things to keep in mind…… T.J. (Terrell Ward Jr.) ….Had ONE Truly solid season in Cleveland. That being ’13. His star is undoubtedly on the rise, yet how much he can command is being overstated. Both Kelly, and Bill Davis know the kid, which is big. The biggest threat is some team getting stupid and paying a ton. Washington had $29M before they tagged Orakpo, and WAY more needs.I know they do dumb ish, but come on. If we make this move, certainly Avant is gone (so long), but also Casey or Celek should probably hit the bricks as well. Lastly, Ward is first cousins with fellow FA, MJD. Realizing money talks, would this kids wanna play with hus cuz? Never know. Rather not go after Byrd. Bad feet? Andrew Toney, Todd MacCulloch? You can wish all you want for a guy to stay healthy, but history says otherwise.