Report: Maclin Eyes One-Year Deal

NFL: Philadelphia Eagles at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Jeremy Maclin wants to bet on himself. But apparently, the Eagles want a longer-term commitment.

That is according to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, who reports that Maclin is looking for a one-year deal from the team, but Howie Roseman and company would prefer a multi-year arrangement.


Maclin tore his ACL last summer. If he's confident that he will put up big numbers in 2014, a one-year deal makes sense. He could improve his stock, become a free agent next offseason and then cash in.

On the other hand, Maclin has done all his rehab with the Eagles. The team knows how healthy he is and can get him for less guaranteed money this offseason.

The Eagles inked Riley Cooper to a five-year deal on Thursday, but Roseman didn't rule out the possibility of bringing Maclin back as well.

"Jeremy’s a good player," Roseman said. "Jeremy’s someone we drafted, we have a lot of respect for, obviously in this system, really high hopes for him coming into this year. Without getting into specifics on any player, he’s got a lot of good traits and certainly fits into the chemistry and what we’re trying to do."

The Eagles have until March 11 to lock Maclin up. If they don't do so by then, he'll hit the open market.

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  • Joe from Easton

    Let him walk if it comes to this.

  • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

    Bye bye, Jere-meh.

    • Richard Colton

      Ohh wine glass…

      OK, I’ll bite. Why wouldn’t you rather sign him to a one year deal if the other option is losing him now?

      • phillylove21

        We would lose him if he sign a one year deal.. Especially if other teams offer him more money in 2015 more than what we could offer him now?? Don’t you think?

        • Richard Colton

          Don’t we lose him if he signs with another team? If it’s between one year and zero years, and you want the player, don’t you take the one year?

          • Joe from Easton

            The birds want him, they don’t need him. If they needed him, or if the draft wasn’t STOCKED at WR (as I said above) then I’d give him the one year prove it deal all day and twice on Sundays.

          • Richard Colton

            We know what we have in Jackson/Ertz/Cooper/Shady. You’re assuming facts not in evidence when it comes to a rookie. No guarantee we take one in the first three rounds, Maclin or no Maclin.

          • Joe from Easton

            Jackson/Ertz/Cooper/Shady set franchise records last year. We have enough infrastructure in place as it stands now to take a chance on one of the many WR’s available in the draft for a much more cap friendly deal then what we’d give Maclin (save for a first rounder probably). I’m not saying I totally disagree with you. I want to have Maclin back very badly, but sometimes “ya gotta live within your means”.

          • phillylove21

            Yes we lose him to another team if we sign a one year deal.. He have a good season he’s gonna demand more money.. If numbers not adding up he’s leaving.. Jeremy Maclin was our top receiver.. So he doesn’t deserve desean Jackson money? Those numbers are not adding up..

      • Joe from Easton

        He’s betting on himself to earn a top tier deal after this season. If he does then we won’t give it to him and if he doesn’t then we wasted more money in a one year deal than in year one of a two year deal that would see him cut after year one.

        • Richard Colton

          So you’re willing to let him walk rather than sign him for one year? I understand your willingness to move on with a draft pick from this VERY deep class, but personally I’d like the one year security of finding out if that draft pick can play or not.

          Maclin provides that security.

          • peteike

            exactly. I think he walks, another team will easily take that gamble on a 3 yr deal Im guessing

          • Richard Colton

            sounds like the player wants a 1 year and the team wants a longer deal. what am I missing? If its between “no Maclin” and “some Maclin” – I’ll take Maclin.

          • FMWarner

            Agreed. I don’t understand the reasoning behind “well, we’ll lose him if he plays well on a 1-year deal.” Um, won’t we get that 1 good year?

          • Andy124

            I think the counter is that him being there for just the 1 year could negatively impact the following year. It could discourage us from acquiring his replacement (resources, roster spots) and it could hinder the replacements development or at least our evaluation of the potential replacement (playing time).

            Considering I’ve made these very arguments in the quarterback situation quite a bit, I have to say they have some merit. I think the situations are different enough that those same arguments don’t carry the day though.

          • Joe from Easton

            From a fiscal standpoint it’s the right call. Decisions like this are tough, but making the right call consistently is the difference between our cap situation and the cowboys’ cap situation. I’m not saying this deal would make or break the Eagles’ cap situation, but bending the rules can turn into a habit and then it would have the effect that I mentioned.

          • Richard Colton

            It’s one year. What could the cap implications be beyond this year?!? Am I reading the story incorrectly? If we can’t come to terms on a longer team friendly deal, that’s unfortunate. But the one year “show me” deal was what I wanted from the beginning.

          • Joe from Easton

            Like I said, it’s not this deal that would make or break the Eagles cap. It’s the idea that they’re willing to go against the grain of their principles that would scare me for the future. Organizations need to stay on track with their plan, or you end up like Andy’s Birds after a while.

          • Richard Colton

            How? Explain it to me like I’m five. How does a one year deal when the other option is letting the player walk hurt us long term?

          • Joe from Easton

            It doesn’t really hurt us at all if it’s an isolated incident. I’m referring more to my desire to see the team “stay the course” when it comes to the way they manage things like this. I trust Howie and he doesn’t want to set a precedent within his organization that the Eagles will go against their own will. If he gives Maclin the deal he wants instead of the deal the Eagles want to offer then he’s opening the door for other players to feel they can impose their will when it comes time for contract talks. That hurts the organization. I know it’s weird because usually it’s the player that wants multiple years and the team that wants one year in situations like this, but that doesn’t change the principle of the matter.

          • Richard Colton

            I see your point now. OK – see what I wrote to Geags above. He feels the same way you do.

          • Joe from Easton

            I noticed. Like I said, I certainly want Maclin back just like you. I just don’t want him back at the expense of possibly harming the structure that the new regime is putting in place.

            Last year they sat DJax in the summer workouts, made Mike Vick work for his Job (just a few examples). This off season they’ve given the right players the right contracts. “Losing a game of chicken” (as GEAGLE said) sends a different message to the team than they’ve been sending, that’s all.

          • Maggie

            Unless the Eagles have had some casual, “hey how ya doing” chats with a couple of FA receivers’ agents? Maybe while strolling around at the Combine? A WR or two they know can play but don’t need major money?

      • Joe from Easton

        If the draft wasn’t the deepest it’s been at WR in probably a decade or more then he could probably get what he wants. Not right now though, sorry Maclin.

      • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

        He should have worked on an extension when he had the chance. He gambled, he lost.

        • Richard Colton

          Going back and forth with my wine glass…there’s a metaphor there somewhere.

          I don’t disagree – but I could care less about the Eagles teaching somebody a lesson. Joe Banner isn’t here anymore. If I have to choose between Maclin for one year and Maclin for no years, I don’t see how the team loses by giving him the one year deal.

  • Javi Echie

    Looks like a rookie will be his replacement. Thanks for the memories J-Mac.

  • theedevilsadvocate

    well now so geagle was right, accurate once more give this guy a job! lol

    • GEAGLE

      When I don’t know something to be true, you will notice I’m always respectful towards alternate opinions..but if I know something to be true, I can’t pretend there are other possibilities just for the sake of being cordial

      • Maggie

        No you are not always respectful, especially when you are wrong.

        “Barr was an offensive player his first two years at UCLA playing running back, wide receiver and tight end. Prior to his junior season in 2012, he switched to linebacker.”
        Try Google sometime, SWEETIE.

        • GEAGLE

          The difference between me and you is I don’t have to google to talk football, I enjoy it, I speak of the top of my brain..you try way to hard, and it’s obvious. Barr was a running back, you posted that he was a WR, so I owned you like I always do…don’t go get tossed off my shady groupie bus now lol

          Why would I respect someone who acts like a condescending “C**T” under all my Post, and brings nothing to the table? I think Joeffry is a prick, but I can respect him and talk football with him because I know he has a worthy opinion. I Genuinly find you worthless and you consistently waste my time, so why in the world would you expect my respect?

          • Maggie

            So quit your stupid pointless sniping at me when I am talking with OTHER people. Take your alleged huge guard dogs into your dark bedroom, in between smuggling drugs, and convincing yourself that you’ve actually talked to girls before. When you’re not talking about your numerous conquests. Like another commenter stated on Iggtes Blitz, get lost with your multiple personalities and your snotty putdowns of many people who have different opinions than you. And stop using “we” when discussing business discussions made in professional sports teams’ front offices. There is no “we”. Only fans expressing varied opinions, which every single one of us is entitled to express. Don’t bother to reply with your usual disgusting rants or foul language. It won’t be read, only deleted.

  • Joe Thomas

    My guess is, as a last resort they sign him to a one year deal, maybe he’ll do an option year. I dont see them letting him walk, over this.

    • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

      I’m with you Joe. I don’t think this is necessarily a bad thing. Usually it’s the player wanted a multi-year deal and the team going with a one year deal. There is still a lot of time for them to find some common ground.

      • peteike

        ya funny how its reversed. Id be fine with a one year deal. You hope the rookie(s) step up to replace him but yet you get his value this coming season. I honestly dont see him putting up massive numbers anyway sharing catches with the current crop. Ck is a master at building up guys, watch out here comes Momah haha

        • http://boyga.com/ joolyen

          Yep. I think the Eagles are just being smart and trying to lock him up but will probably do a one year deal at some point. When healthy Maclin has been pretty good. For all we know Roseman has offered him a 12 year deal Lito Sheppard got.

  • Ark87

    hah, me and geagle just had this conversation.

  • Amar (India)

    GEAGLE is vindicated…Getting a 1 year deal favors Maclin more than the Eagles. If we do want him, has to be a 3 (atleast) 2 year deal with 1 guaranteed.

    • GEAGLE

      Duh…what did you think was going to happen? If I’m not certain about something, I’m always respectful of alternate opinions..but if I’m convinced about something and Genuinly don’t feel it’s debateable, I can’t pretend it is…not my fault the simple lazy philly media never once even talked about him in any context other then a one year prove it deal..if they did, people would believe it and not think I’m crazy

      • Andy124

        I’d still be happy to sign him to a 1-year deal. It’s nice that we don’t have to, and multi-year has benefits to the team obviously, but just because something isn’t perfect doesn’t mean it’s not good.

        • GEAGLE

          See above post

          • Andy124

            Good post above. Interesting indeed. I for one, will sit back and be content with any of the likely outcomes. As long as he doesn’t end up in Dallas. Ever.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah this is a sticky situation, so I really can’t complain about any outcome. This is all types of grey area. I love the stuff where you Genuinly don’t know how it plays out..this is one of them.I also think this is the stuff you pay attention to, to figure out how we operate in future situations.. I have no idea what Howies and Maclins “walk away limits” are so impossible to know how it plays out..

            Still hearing that the talks are cordial and both sides want to play ball so that’s a positive

    • GEAGLE

      Let me let Yous in on a little secret…I don’t have any crazy secret source. Right now, the eagles are easier to predict then ever!!!! Wanna know what the Eagles will do? Just imagine what a well run organization that isn’t short sited would do, and chances are it’s what we will do. Howie and Chip together have made all the right moves, they follow simple logic. No head scratchers, no crazy undersized draft pick fastballs from bumble F University…
      ..
      Pay no attention to any media predictions, just think in terms how what a well run organization will do. And chances are you will know what direction the Eagles are headed in….and btw, if you aren’t going to watch tape on players for yourself, be very careful of which media members opinion you let into your brain..unless that media member watches film for himself, automatically pay him no mind…so for example, NEVER read a Les Bowan column for anything but comedic value

      • cliff henny

        your source was me about 2 months ago, haha

        • GEAGLE

          Your my cap analyst.. I pay no attention to cap issues because we haven’t had cap problems since I was a teenager, and I can count on you to know what’s up!

          • Amar (India)

            Doesn’t Low Risk lead to Low Reward ?
            I’m never quite sure whether to applaud or criticize Howie for making these 2nd tier investments (Barwin,B Fletcher, C Williams). While these are contributors and will always keep us in playoff contention, they will never single-handedly dominate a game.

          • Richard Colton

            If you’re going to bad-mouth the guy, at least spell his name right. Berwin.

          • Amar (India)

            OK, Richerd…

          • Andy124

            icymi, There was a notorious poster who made that mispelling here consistently while trashing that signing. It’s become a bit of a meme here.

            My apologies if this is not news to you.

          • Amar (India)

            C’mon…we’re all grown ups here. No need to apologize.
            I had no idea about someone trashing Connor Barwin signing.

          • Andy124

            If it makes you feel better, I really didn’t feel sorry at all. :)

          • cliff henny

            count yourself lucky…it was some solid crazy talk

          • Richard Colton

            Just joshing you. Feel free to drop Berwin on the next guy.

          • GEAGLE

            If you are going to enjoy the eagles drafting well then you have to understand that we ain’t going to be major players in Free agency..btw, Barwin is a stud! and was a stud way before we ever signed him! our media is just lazy. Draft well, and hit on mid tier signings IMO is probably the best formula for sustained success so, I accept it as long as the player evaluations continue to be correct. Then again you are talking to some who wanted to sign Cary way before he became a free agent so I’m obviously more content then most…drafting a player who pans out and losing him in free agency Because you don’t have the money IMO is a worst fate then not adding the big priced free agents every year

          • Amar (India)

            Dont get me wrong, I like Barwin. I think he is a solid all-round talent, one of the best open field tacklers, good pass rusher and decent cover guy. I just don’t think he is that 1 guy you account for as an offense. Maybe its the scheme…
            Same goes for Cary Williams and Bradley Fletcher.
            The praise would be for signings of Casey,Sopoaga,Phillips. Even though it didnt work out, we didnt lose too many resources in terms of money, cap hit or draft picks.

          • GEAGLE

            No, Barwin isnt that guy..those types cost like 50mil on the open market and barely ever reach FA when they are in there prime…like QBs, that edge rushing terror is a position you most likely have to draft for yourself…friggin Kruger got 40mil last year, and IMO he ain’t THAT GUY!…but Barwin is a damn good option across from THAT guy, and Barwin is good enough to have a big role in a top defense…

          • GoBirds1

            Aren’t you the guy that was pounding the table on Manti Teo and had a man crush on him. Your eye for talent is suspect…

          • George

            He’s relying on the fact that the players they draft will be the game-breakers, and is relying on the FA’s we sign to not screw up

          • pjcostello

            The number of players in the league who CAN single-handedly dominate a game is very low; and even they are not usually all that consistent (see: Peyton Manning, Super Bowl). Low-risk CAN mean low-reward, just as high-risk CAN mean high-reward. Most often, low-risk means steady and dependable.

          • oreofestar

            I see no reason why the Eagles would want a 1 year deal with Maclin so he can just break the break next year

          • calieagle

            can anyone see brent grimes coming home and playing at an all pro level in his early 30s?

  • GEAGLE

    Going to be interesting game of chicken. Who’s going to budge? Make no mistake about it, if we give Mac a one year deal, that’s a win for Mac and a loss for Howie. Is he ok with taking the loss? Beats me, going to be interestingly. It never made any sense to see Mac blow up in this offense on a one year deal, inflate his value when we have to pay QB,Thornton,Cox,Kendrick!Boykin….how bad does Howie want him here, how bad does Mac want to stay in the nest? How concerned is Howie of KC and the Jets?
    ..I love this ish, I find it thrilling and can’t wait to see how it unfolds

    • theedevilsadvocate

      i think you are really howie himself. GM of the eagles Geagle. keep up the good work sir. lol

      • GEAGLE

        Thank you sir. Tell you the truth, I couldnt call anything right under Andy lol. They followed no logic. This regime is so much easier, they are rational. Logical and committed to not making mitaks of the past

      • Token

        Jesus, another screen name Geagle? Freakin psycho.

        • GEAGLE

          You know me…wish Tim would verify my accounts to shut your bitch ass up! Lol

        • theedevilsadvocate

          im not geagle i dont have the knowledge he has not brown nosing either just saying though he can be a douche at times he does have a lot of insight.

          • GEAGLE

            Uhhh thanks I guess lol

          • theedevilsadvocate

            its actually funny to think that if you really were me you would be having this convo with your self. you just gave your self a compliment and took a shot at your self all at the same time. what else are you capable of howie! i know its you howie… lol

          • GEAGLE

            My bank account sure don’t look like Howies…and the only Fletcher Cox, Ced Thornton and Vinny Curry that I have control over, are my 75lb 4 month old Cane Corso puppies and they barely listen to me lol

      • cliff henny

        no way…defense would have 100m of a 130m cap.

        • GEAGLE

          Your only hope for offense is my man love for FOles. If we didn’t have him, Yous would be stuck watching 10-3 wins for the next decade if it was up to me

          • Andy124

            ‘Sup Buddy. How’re the twins?

    • Ark87

      the question now is, will it end up being a 1 year deal with compromise for even less guaranteed money, and lower cash ceiling, or a 2 year deal with parity to Cooper’s deal, or will he walk. Line is drawn, would be interesting how the compromising would work out, or if the 2 sides part ways.

      • GEAGLE

        No clue what either parties walk away limits are so your guess is as good as mine.

    • Richard Colton

      John, that’s Joe Banner thinking. I don’t see this as zero sum. If he plays really well and inflates his value, great. That means he was so good that we had a WR outplay the two really good ones we know we have. Not to mention our two quality TEs and a RB who could catch 100 passes if you really wanted him to.

      What does him walking to another team and having a great year do for us? At least with a one year deal we won’t be saddled with dead $ if he’s Steve Smith 2.0

      • Joe from Easton

        Two year deal with an option to pick up the second year protects us against him inflating his value and hitting the open market AND protects us against the SS 2.0 scenario. The control is in Howie’s hands after year one, instead of JMac’s.

        • Richard Colton

          No doubt. Doesn’t sound like Maclin is interested in that deal. So if it comes down to choice A) 1 year “show me” deal or B) player walks, I’m taking Maclin for a year.

          The other thing is this: say we squeeze him for two with a team option (no dead $ in year two) and he finally blows up and becomes the All Pro WR we always thought he would be? How happy will 28 year old Maclin be in year two of that deal? When he thinks he should be making Mike Wallace money but is being paid peanuts.

          • Joe from Easton

            If that happens then we have first dibs on extending his contract in a cap friendly manner. If it doesn’t then we cut him and lose nothing. If he earns his pay, he’ll get it. I just don’t think he should earn it and then put us over a barrel. If he wants to be an Eagle he’ll take a two year deal, prove it in year one, and rightfully get extended instead of using the market to get more out of the birds.

          • Richard Colton

            agree with everything you’re saying, but Maclin and his agent get a vote too. If we can get him (even for just one year) without hamstringing ourselves financially longterm, I’ll take it.

          • GEAGLE

            And be in a horrible position 365 days later? Glad Howie is putting up a fight. I’d rather see Howie win, then us lose Mac tho so hopefully it works out

          • Richard Colton

            What would the horrible position be? To me the worst possible outcomes are as follows:

            Scenario one – Eagles sign Maclin long term, he never recovers speed from injury. Team takes salary cap hit.
            Scenario two – Maclin walks, goes to another team and puts up monster numbers.

            We avoid both with a one year deal.

          • GEAGLE

            Doubt Howie would consider a Multi year deal without the proper out clauses as protection(which is one of the points I assume he is fighting for right now)…so I don’t worry as much about Maclin not panning out as a player! because Howie doesn’t seem the type to “F” without a condom after NNamdi gave him herpes lol….I’m more worried about him blowing up! not being able to afford him going into a Super Bowl or bust year(I hope) and losing a respected member of our locker room. Just hoping to avoid another trotter situation, so I’m rooting for Howie..Easy to talk tough now for me, but believe me, if we actually lost Maclin, you won’t be seeing me celebrate. losing talent is never in us our best interest, so I’m hoping for a happy resolution

          • Andy124

            Worst case scenario with a 1-year deal seems to be Maclin has a big year and cashes in big in free agency next year. That means he had a big year for us. I can live with that.

          • Andy124

            And resigning Maclin should prevent us from drafting a WR.

          • FMWarner

            I don’t see the horrible position. WORST case scenario is we get a great year from Maclin on the cheap and he walks after that. Why not take the great year instead of letting him walk now?

          • Joe from Easton

            All things considered, I’d probably take the one year deal over nothing. The long term cost (1 year deal vs. 2 year with a second year option) is probably a few million though if he goes out and kills it and we want to keep him after that. Remember, we’ll probably need to spend some money on Foles, Ertz, Lane, and Boykin in the next few years. Those few million could bite us in the a$$.

          • Andy124

            We’ve got Trent and Todd coming off the books by then, and the cap is always going up. I’m not overly concerned about being able to retain our core guys well in to the future.

          • Joe from Easton

            You’re right about Cole and Herremans, but also remember that as the cap goes up, so does the value of Marquee deals. Sort of like as wages rise so does the cost of goods.

          • Amar (India)

            Or trade him for a 2nd round pick.

        • Andy124

          Yeah, a 2 year deal protects the Eagles. Heck, a 5 year deal for the vet minimum would be great for the Eagles. But you’ve got to give to get.

          We’ll find out what happens. It’s all good either way. All I’m saying is that signing Mac to a 1-year deal doesn’t mean Howie screwed the pooch or got taken to school or raked over the coals in any way shape or form.

          • Joe from Easton

            I wouldn’t disagree at all. It does show the other players, though, that you can get what you want if you’re the “right” guy and that’s not something you want in your locker room.

          • Andy124

            I understand what you’re saying, I just don’t think that’s much of an issue.

            It’s not like they’re caving to guy who’s 1 year in to a 7 year, very healthy contract who’s threatening to destroy the team from the inside out or something. Now there’s a bad precedent to set.

            Coming to a fair compromise in a professional contract negotiation is just business as usual.

          • Joe from Easton

            Agreed.

          • NickS1

            Who tries to get a new deal a year after you just signed a seven year deal? Makes no sense…

          • anon

            That’s crazy talk, if you aren’t getting paid what you think you’re worth renegotiate. GMs are happy to cut you the moment they think you can be replaced for cheaper.

          • FMWarner

            Exactly. It’s not ideal, but it’s better than letting him walk now and I don’t see how doing a deal that benefits both sides can be a hindrance to Howie standing his ground with other guys. Most times there’s a standoff, the player’s desire throws a wrench in the team’s plans. A one year prove it deal doesn’t do that.

      • GEAGLE

        I’m actually ok with however this plays out, I don’t know any scenario that could infuriate me..I’m pretty indifferent to it, but Mac can play so I’m rooting for Howie, because it’s in our best interest as fans,,.just pointing out the reality of the situation…

        • Richard Colton

          If his agent’s threat was: “3 years guaranteed or we walk” – I would let him walk. I just don’t see how a one year deal hurts us.

          I’ll concede – it’s not the best scenario for the team. It’s still better than not having him at all.

          • GEAGLE

            Hey man, I’d rather see Howie win this battle and us have Maclin for the next 3 years(so obviously I value him)..but I’m a realist so I know the terms would have to be right to happen, assuming Howie is pushing for out clauses that protect him in case Mac gets hurt again or isn’t the player he was..;but it’s certainy possible that in the end Howie isn’t willing to lose Mac and he caves on a one year deal. But I’m really pleased to see Howie try to take this stance, because he would be a sucker if he didn’t try

          • Richard Colton

            100% agree with that. This reeks of last minute posturing. We get sucked in because, you know, Eagles.

          • GEAGLE

            Absolutely…there is no one to blame right now. Both sides are doing exactly what they should be doing…Howie turned up the heat on Mac with the Coop signing, and now he is trying to leverage him, which is what he should be doing, there is twelve days left til he becomes a free agent, no reason for Howie to roll over now..and macs agent seems to be betting on Mac having a big year, which is good news since we are trying to keep him…I find it as a good sign that Mac rather have a one year deal then a 3 year deal, it means he Genuinly believes he is healthy, which is good for us

  • TXEaglesFan

    I say sign him to a one year deal, draft one of the stud wr in round 1-3, then if he proves he can play at a high level after a few games, trade him to the jets for a 2nd rounder, and let stud rookie take over. If he doesn’t return to top form then you still have stud rookie and only out the $5-6 million and move on.

  • cliff henny

    great news, Mac will be back. first time i’ve ever heard a player wanting less money/years from a team. they’ll meet somewhere in the middle.

    • NickS1

      Dude, I thought the exact same thing. Howie must be scratching his head, like, “Wait a minute, back the truck up…. you mean to tell me you DON’T want years and dollars? Am I following you?”

      • cliff henny

        his next sentence should be ‘here, let me have you tak to DeSean’

        • NickS1

          Remember the camp stories from those two taking friendly jabs at who was paid more in their rookie deals? As of now, looks like Desean might be getting the last laugh.

          • Andy124

            It pays to stay healthy.

          • NickS1

            #Truth #Jaccpot

          • cliff henny

            like to see their bankstatements though. i’ll bet D-Jax tears thru it with that rap crap.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol he probably borrowed money from Mac by now

    • anon

      Maclin’s not dumb, he’s betting he can have a career year in Kelly’s system and wants to be able to renegotiate after this year. Howie wants him on an el cheapo multi year deal. Look what happened to Cooper.

      • cliff henny

        not sure he will have career year. shady will be shady. jax will still be over the top threat. Ertz i think is breakout star in making. Cooper and Foles have a connection. there’s no way kelly’s leaving this draft without a stud WR, maybe 2. trust me, i want Maclin, just because i want to see eagles go 5 wide with jax mac cooper ODB and Landry and see jason Garrett crap his pants…think all Maclin has to show is he’s back up to full health for other teams to want him. i dont mind 1 yr rental, gives rooks 1/2 season to relax.

        • anon

          mac was the possession guy – de factor WR1 before last year. If coop can get 800yds and 8tds mac can def have 1,000 yd season.

          Be interesting to see how we generate yards and who generates them. I also REALLY like Landry.

          • calieagle

            marqise lee and deanthony thomas.. thomas is chips padawan/djax lil cousin and lee got the talent to be contribute right away on offense and special teams maybe even defense in certain situations

  • Brian G

    Anyone else get the feeling that by getting Maclin and Cooper on long term deals, the Eagles are putting themselves in a position to cut D-Jax after next year? He’s earning a bunch of money and there has already been grumblings about him wanting a new deal. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of his, but WRs generally aren’t worth 10+ mil a year, except for a very select few. Just a thought.

    • Andy124

      My guess is that we’ll hear about DJax’s new contract with less money per year and more guaranteed before too long.

      • Joe from Easton

        I agree, but that’s why I want this Maclin thing to work so badly. If we can get it right with Maclin then we can let Jackson walk in the back end of his contract without much of a cap hit instead of extending him this year and being locked into a (soon to be) aging speedster.

        • GEAGLE

          A Multi year deal for Mac would give us tons of flexibility. He isn’t worth much in a trade if his contract is about to expire. Getting Mac signed for 3 years would give us the option of trading him or Desean in the future depending on how draft pics pan out…

          • Joe from Easton

            Agreed, 100%.

        • anon

          We just made Kelce the 5th highest paid center, and gave the biggest deal ever to a LT over 32.

          The deal was made to be renegotiated this offseason.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Both those facts are true, but just the way you say it makes it seem worse than it is. Both those deals were very, very team-friendly, and comparable to their peers. Moreso, both were earned through play on the field. This isn’t some Jerrah fascination scenario.
            More to the point, neither one impacts the cap too much now or into the future. The Eagles could probably keep the entire rest of the roster intact (as in, not cut guys like Chung or Avant) and avoid restructuring a single contract, and still have all the cap room in the world to do what they want. Really just win-win-win all around

    • NickS1

      I said something on the other thread about this. This was supposed to be his “contract year”, so I expect some movement at some point. If we don’t hear anything this offseason, my 1-10 concernometer hits about a 3 or 4.

      • peteike

        concernometer, ha thats awesome, Im stealing that

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      I think he showed last year, in the first taste of Kelly’s offense, that he is in fact part of that select few. Neither Maclin or Cooper’s deals effect DJax at all since neither has a huge price tag attached to it. The position is still incredibly cheap, Coop’s salary is just above replacement level; Benn and Maehl will pry make way to rookies (making very little); Smith and Avant may not stay either.

      The only way DJax goes, in a couple years, is if (1) he loses some speed, (2) he gets hurt, resulting in #1, or (3) a rookie WR develops and has to get paid in a few years, which is not only awesome but right about the time his deal expires anyway (the announced #’s mean nothing).

  • Token

    Brian McIntyre ‏@brian_mcintyre · 18m
    Peters’ cap number dropped by $2M, Cooper has a $1.8M cap number in 2014. Kelce’s cap number increased by $1.209M.

    • cliff henny

      cooper’s pretty low hit. be interesting to see how howie structured that. those last 2 yrs must be bs air.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        Howie must have learned this cap magic from Dorenbos. Incredible we sign/extend those 3 guys to whatever the ESPN headline was (something about 100+ mil spent?), while somehow coming out of it with a net cap hit of ~ +1mil.

        • cliff henny

          imagine JJ’s reaction…’wait, they’re saving money signing 3 guys to 125m contracts? and not extending 4 garbage contracts either… WTF!’

          • GEAGLE

            No seriously…some one has to ask jerry about us on camera

  • Token

    After latest signings, #Eagles have $17,169,767 of cap space, according to the NFLPA.

    • cliff henny

      before the hatchet. avant clears 3+m, casey would be about same, benn gives 1m. d-jax will get in-line, he’ll get down to 8m, clears 4m. chung needs reduced, not that it matters, but spite is good enough reason for me, 1.5m there. thornton will get 2yrs 4m, something like that, offset by chung. so still have 15-18m more to spend. will carry 10m over. byrd or ward hit market, stilll can be a player.

      • Andy124

        Saving it all up for St. Nick.

        • NickS1

          A good bit of Nick’s money next year is coming straight from Trent Cole’s contract.

          • Token

            yep. Foles isnt gonna get a 100 million dollar deal either.

          • NickS1

            Definitely unlikely. Not out of the realm of possibility, though. He’d have be unstoppable this year to get it. Don’t know if NFL deals can be seven years or not, but I’d love something like 7/98/40-45 guaranteed.

      • Token

        They can spend big on a difference maker if they want to. Easily. Just depends if he reaches the market.

        • cliff henny

          1 byrd, 1 barwin, or 4 barwin contracts…i’d love to see another bradley fletcher type, underutalized 25 yrs old vet on very friendly contract. Roc cant be next up. think ghonny geagle talked me into Jenkins (bastard!) but not sure there’s much better choice. get another soapoga type contract for d-line, just better and younger player. another Barbre. i can see this team with draft we bs about being on deep badass team. all circles back to Foles.

          • Token

            If they are to be contenders, they need more difference makers. Not role players like a Barwin or Fletch. Like having those guys. Those are guys you build a solid foundation with. But to get over the top you need true impact players IMO.

          • cliff henny

            impact players are on offense. Eagles are an offensive team. be great at 1 side of the ball. Eagles are building thru the draft. Howie writes great contracts i doubt we have much to worry about Foles getting something crazy. by ’15, this could be one nasty ass roster that just comes at teams in wave after wave.

          • GEAGLE

            Seems to be the plan, a college type roster that comes at you in waves.. Hopefully we can draft well enough to pull it off. Which is why I’m expecting WR drafted no matter how many we sign

          • cliff henny

            Waves of them coming at you on Friday, Saturday.
            By Sunday, your nuts gonna be drained.

          • GEAGLE

            Just flashed a devilish grin

          • NickS1

            Defense needs to be middle of road. That’s all. Don’t give up 30, we’ll put up 40. That’s Chip….. That said, yes, I want an impact safety of ROLB. If it doesn’t happen, I just need to know that it didn’t happen because of factors outside of our control, instead of the batting average garbage.

          • cliff henny

            40?! i want that in 1st half at least twice this year.

          • GEAGLE

            Bears game production works for me :)

          • NickS1

            I see your two and raise you two more. We do play in the NFC East. That’s three times right there.

          • cliff henny

            i really REALLY, and i mean REEEEALLY want eagles to hang 50 on Dallas. mean, just curb stomp on national TV.

          • NickS1

            I was assuming one would be on them. Two on Redskins.

          • GEAGLE

            Forget the stats, they just need to continue doing their part in the turnover battle.. Our high octane offense should pressure teams to keep up, which should help force turnovers, so as long as the offense keeps taking care of the ball, we should be tough to beat

          • Mike Calabrese

            Having middle road defense with good offense we just watched that formula in Denver. Seattle and San Fran will feast on us if that’s how we are built.

          • Token

            O im with you for the most part. Offense is this team. Thats just how it is, and im fine with that. Make the offense amazing.

            But the defense has a looong way to go just to be in that 10-15 defense range. Right now they have NO difference makers on defense. Not one. If not a safety, then it better be a pass rusher. Something.

          • Amar (India)

            I’m on board for Jenkins.

          • cliff henny

            wish there was option F or G, but Reid drafted garbage safeties for 7yrs. put up 50, doesnt matter who’s playing safety.

          • GEAGLE

            Sad right. Trying to wrap my head around it now so I don’t get heartbroken when we don’t sign Byrd…ATleast we can afford Jenkins lol poor saints are stuck meeting with Delmas today because they know they will lose Jenkins lol..and they still gve Jimmy Graham problems lol

          • GEAGLE

            Hey, right now there is still Ward or Bryd hope ATleast. They have til Monday to be franchised…I been dreaming of Jarius lol(don’t sound right using his last name) for two years. So I ain’t waving the white flag til the fat lazy sings, I’m just aware that it could be settling for Jenkins and preparing for heartbreak. I have literally been talking about Jarius for two friggin years and the bills wanna pull this ish now? I’m hell bent on stealing Alex Carrington from them. Pricks!!!

          • GEAGLE

            Trust me…I prefer better then Jenkins, he is just the best fall back option. Friggin Dawk was all over ESPN about how great Byrd would be for us..talk about a kick in the nuts…

            If we take a shot at a Bradley Fletcher type, I’m hoping it’s Carrington.

          • cliff henny

            he sounds like he wants to put on the pads when discussing kelly and Eagles. he knows something nasty is brewing.

    • Adam

      Those are 2013 cap numbers.

      • Token

        Yep. Which means they actually have more correct?

        • cliff henny

          yes, but the added money is to pay rookies. the math works all the same

          • Token

            So essentially, it makes no damn difference.

          • cliff henny

            the numbers you were using didnt include paying rookies, which is often the case. eagles arent the cowboys who are bending over backwards to get under, then draft happens and only way to sign picks is to cut Austin.

        • Adam

          Yep, should be around 23-25 after Chung and Avant are gone. 28 if we can pawn BG off on someone.

  • GEAGLE

    Next question:
    Mac?
    Nate extension? Hopefully we have a better plan lol
    Donnie Longball/Boykin Downsballs connection!! Unless we franchise him before Monday we won’t know about him til march 11th
    ….
    Then free agent acquisition time!!! Swing batter batter batter swing!! Do we dare point to centerfield and swing for the fences? Byrd???? I’m on pins and needle over this damn franchise tag, if they Tag him just do it already and put me out of my damn misery

    • cliff henny

      dont you think Nate’s getting something north of Cooper’s contract, which is 3yrs 13.5m. i really dont want him manning deep middle in ’14, let alone ’16.
      .
      punters are easy to sign. DJ made 900k last yr, toss him 1.25m and he’ll be happy.

  • FMWarner

    I love this from him. If Maclin was really the soft low-effort guy 90% of the fan base seems to think he is, he’d jump on the long term contract. He’s betting on himself, and I’ll take a motivated player any day.

    • GEAGLE

      He certainly isn’t conducting himself like a man who has lost a step, and Caplan reported multiple executives are under the impression that he is healthy and already running well

  • DharmaBum

    The shitty thing about this situation is that, if we sign him to a one year deal, and he plays well, we’ll certainly lose him, whereas if he signs a one year deal elsewhere, they’ll keep him. Think about it: he signs a one year deal with US, has a great season, then some team will inevitably swoop in and offer him some crazy contract. It’ll be more than we will/should spend, and he’ll leave. However, if he leaves now and signs a one year deal elsewhere and plays well, the chances are he’ll resign with THAT team. I mean, who wants to jump to their 3rd team in three years?

    In essence, from the Eagles’ perspective, it multi-year deal or walk away. It’s just human nature that, having only ever played for one team, he’d want to see what he can do “out in the world”, once he’s established his value. The only way a one year deal is do-able for us is if we go into it knowing he’s gone next year, either way, and just use his presence to let whichever WRs we draft get their legs under them.

    In that sense, I’d say there’s no compromise — it’s multiple years or nothing. The Eagles would be foolish to sign him to a one year deal, if they really want him. If he plays well, he’s gone. If he doesn’t, he’s gone. In any case, a one year deal guarantees that he’ll never come back next year.

  • Kev_H

    Exactly how I saw this playing out. A one year deal makes no sense for the Eagles. Maybe they’ll settle on three years + two non- guaranteed years with salaries commensurate with star production. If he lifts his game, he’ll get paid appropriately (and if he doesn’t he’ll get paid appropriately).

  • Nick Ferguson

    looks like its gunna be a classic game of tom and jerry for the next couple of days, i think it will get worked out tho, and i think it will be howie that bites first, maclin will get the 1 year deal he wants. even tho i wish it would be a multi year deal cuz the eagles would save so much, it aint gunna happen. c’mon howie, take one for the team.

  • CSpangler

    Hoping we sign Maclin to something. Then we can wait til later to find a WR. Meanwhile I hope there is an early run on WRs and someone good can fall to us at our spot. Hopefully at OLB or DB.