Eagles, Peters Agree To Five-Year Deal

NFL: Philadelphia Eagles at Oakland Raiders
The Eagles and Jason Peters have come to terms on a new five-year deal that runs through 2018. The contract is worth a reported $51.3 million with $19.55 guaranteed.

According to a league source, the guaranteed money will run into the third year of the deal, with a “small portion” of the 2016 money being  guaranteed.

The All-Pro left tackle was in the final year of deal he signed with the Eagles after being acquired from the Bills back in 2009, which was scheduled to pay him a base salary of $9.65 million. That figure will stay the same under the terms of the new deal, per a CSN Philly report. The Eagles will get about $2 million in cap relief this year as a result of the deal, according to Adam Caplan.


The two sides had been having light talks but really began to dig their heels in over the last two weeks, we're told.

“There aren’t many people cut from the same cloth as Jason Peters,” said Chip Kelly. “To be able to bounce back from two Achilles injuries and return to an All-Pro level speaks not only to his incredible athleticism, but proves just how hard he works at his game. Having him at left tackle provides a lot of comfort to our quarterback and to our entire offense. He’s a guy that many players look up to in our locker room.”

The 32-year-old missed the entire 2012 season after twice rupturing his right Achilles tendon. He was able to start all 16 games this season. Though not as dominant as we've become accustomed to, Peters still captured first team All-Pro and Pro Bowl honors.

“Jason is everything you look for in a left tackle,” said Howie Roseman. “The unique blend of size, speed and athleticism that Jason possesses is something that everyone wants in an offensive lineman. However, what really makes him unique is his desire to improve day in and day out despite the fact that he’s played at an elite level for so many years. We are truly rewarding Jason’s excellence, as he’s a guy who has made six Pro Bowl appearances and has been selected an All-Pro five times. We’re excited to be able to keep him in Philadelphia for years to come.”

 

  • Ark87

    would this qualify as a restructuring to help the cap situation, or purely an extension? The contracts seemed to have a decent schedule for switching Lane over to LT when Peters moved on, #4 overall pick not becoming a stud LT sooner than later would be a let down, but can’t complain about having the rights to whatever is left in JP’s tank. As long as he’s an elite LT, he’ll be ours. It also makes him a trade commodity as well, so there’s that.

    • Sean

      I imagine both. His cap number would be lower this year, with some guaranteed money up front. While the numbers would get bigger later, he can also be cut without a cap hit.

    • DharmaBum

      We’ll have to see the exact structure, but I’d have to think this gives them some cap relief in the short-term. So much for Lane taking over at LT for the next 2-3 years. The upside is, we won’t need to draft an OT this year, or probably next, although some OL bodies will probably be picked up.

      • aub32

        Agreed, but now it’s likely we will just take athletic guys that still need developing. Plus with LJ still being the heir apparent to the left side, it shouldn’t be too hard to develop a RT from the later rounds over the next 4 years.

        • DharmaBum

          No, I agree, I don’t mind having two solid OT’s for the next few years, and having time to develop whichever one we think we’ll need in the future. I’d expect that this will be the first of a few extensions that we’ll see in the next week or two.

          • aub32

            I was thinking the same. We saw this last year as well. I think Peters is the first of a few moves that are going to be made over the next couple of weeks.

          • Adam

            Next up is Jason Kelce extension I’d say

          • aub32

            I think that or a trade involving BG.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            The Tra and Runyan years, 2.0

          • DharmaBum

            Wouldn’t be a bad thing….

          • Richard Colton

            Hope we get two more solid years out of him. That would be amazing. Anyone know how much dead money in year 3?

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        I don’t get too concerned with the RT/LT thing. If we’re competing against SF, SEA, and other good D’s (like HOU if they have Watt and Clowney), we need good OL at all 5 spots

        • aub32

          So you’re saying we now need an upgrade at RG?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Yes. Been saying that for awhile. Barbre and a rookie competing with todd is ok with me.

          • aub32

            I do like Barbre, and it would be all too perfect if our fix at RG was already in house. Plus Herremans isn’t a bad guy to have as our 6th best lineman. Add in the potential for Kelly or Tobin to become solid players, and I can’t believe this is the same team that once featured Queen Dunlap and Demetress “banned from the state of PA” Bell as its bookends

          • DharmaBum

            Well, even before this extension, I’d have said that whatever OL we’d draft would be with an eye towards the RG position.

          • Richard Colton

            Which is why I wouldn’t sleep on Watkins at #22 – can play 4/5 on the O-line.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            nice edit. When I saw Watkins at first, I almost spit out all my coffee

          • Richard Colton

            I’ve had Watkins on the brain. I think he could be the next face of the NFL star. Whats more, he could fall to Detroit. How do you like that combo?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            terrified of it. but thankfully, just like CHI, there’s a semi-dolt throwing the football to those WRs. And both teams need OL help

          • Andy124

            Ditto, but with tea. I wasn’t sure if it was a Danny Watkins joke or if there was an OL coming out that I’d forgotten about.

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      Both

    • Uncle Wonder

      Sms like a good move…why does it matter if Lane doesnt become LT right away? If it aint broke don’t fix it. Itll also make Lane cheaper if we want to extend him in a few, if all he has done is play on the right side.

      • Ark87

        I’m not crushed or anything, I’d just prefer he made the switch earlier (if that is the eventual intention), while he’s still growing. I’m sure things will work out fine, just raising an eyebrow as once again, reality deviates from (my) perception.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          Had Peters struggled coming back from the achilles, or he drops off a cliff for whatever reason, we still have that plan B. To me it’s win-win if Peters stays this good, even if only 1 year

          • Ark87

            It’s a nice vote of confidence that the FO doesn’t believe the double Achilles tear will accelerate aging any. He was very good last year, but just short of the guy we signed to that original contract. Could it be they expect him to be slightly improved next season? It’s definitely good to have a healthy JP around.

        • Richard Colton

          The distinction between LT and RT is becoming less important anyway. Just like FS/SS. Or Long Snapper/Magician.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I believe that the job requirements of the long snapper now include at least 4yrs experience as a magician.

          • Andy124

            And an uber-hot wife with an exhibitionist streak.

          • hrtak

            And another LS job requirement is sexy-hot wife like Ms. Dorenbos :)

          • leorautins

            MBA (Masters in Balloon Animals) preferred.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            A certain commenter above, who rhymes with Broken, would disagree

      • Token

        Brutal to draft a RT at #4. Just brutal. If Lane cant move there after two seasons I wouldnt count on it happening. This deal tells me they need time to draft a future LT.

        • Tom W

          Completely disagree. Peters deal is 2 year deal based on the guaranteed money if we want. Nothing wrong w a probowl right tackle in year 3 and a move to left tackle for 10 years after that. Kid is young as hell. Moreover, we could move peters inside to guard after two year as well and move johnson over to extend his career.

          • GW.Fisher

            If the worst thing about Lane Johnson is that he’s not as good right now as Jason Peters, I’m good with that…

        • Uncle Wonder

          Well…just think back to the situation as it stood last year this time…new coach…entire OL looked a mess the previous year. JP hadnt played a down of football in nearly 2yrs…we needed at least one tackle no matter what. They went after the highest player of their board and he happened to be a T. I can’t place any blame for the fact that JP came back and played well. Sounds to me like a good problem to have. Who knows? If MIA doesnt make that trade maybe we have Dion Jordan…

          • Token

            Your last sentence makes me remember that it can always be worse. Lane can atleast play the game. But they also could have had Vacarro. Or one or two other actual impact players. Not a role player RT. You just gotta do better than that at #4 IMO.

          • Uncle Wonder

            It also bears mentioning that at the time our LT was on the FRONT side of our QB.

          • Adam

            Oh so you’re saying if we could watch an entire seasons of these rookies playing in the NFL that the draft might have played out differently? Neat. Didn’t 13 other teams pass on him as well?

            RT is a role player now? Really? is he a 3rd down passing specialist RT? Kickoff hands team RT? Our running back won the rushing title and we had a QB who had a Hall of Fame season. Are you sure the season would have played out the same with Herremans at RT and someone else at guard? Who would have been that RG? We upgraded two very important positions in a run heavy offense.

          • Richard Colton

            Chip Kelly’s college offense needs a bunch of athletic linemen who can get downfield and blow-up Linebackers and Safeties.

          • Andy124

            And a mobile QB.

          • Adam

            Gimmick college offense with gimmick role players. I’m talkin’ dungeons and dragons type role players.

        • daggolden

          You are exactly right Token. You draft a RT at # 4? Are you kidding me. LJ would be hard pressed to be a top 20 pick this year. Playing RT and the weaker pass rushers he should of had a better year than the other tackles taken last year.

          • Uncle Wonder

            You don’t think he had a better year than the two OTs who went ahead of him? Hindsight is 20/20 but I dont see how it could be viewed as a bad decision to draft him considering the circumstances…AT THE TIME

          • Andy124

            I’ll do you one better. I don’t see how it could be viewed as a bad decision to draft him in hindsight.

          • daggolden

            Because RT, Centers, Guards, Punters, Placekickers etc aren’t drafted in top 5 of NFL drafts.lol. Because Lane Johnson playing RT is no difference than Barbre playing RT who we already had. That’s why. Because most teams pass rushers on that side aren’t very good.

          • Andy124

            A lot of unsubstantiated claims there. I won’t bother refuting them until you offer some form of support for them.

            When a guy who’s main knock was that he was raw and inexperienced comes in and outplays they more polished guys as a rookie, you’ve got to think the word “elite” applies to his future.

            You’ve also got to realize that you don’t evaluate a draft pick on what will he contribute as a rookie, or what will he contribute in two years. It’s what will his career contribute.

            And finally, games are won in the trenches. Always have been. Always will be.

          • Richard Colton

            I like Barbre too. But what have we seen from any of these guys…Barbre, Kelly, Bamiro, that makes anyone think they’d be ready to step in at RT?

            And don’t give me the “Could have had Vacarro and Terron Armstead line.” Armstead was classic high risk/high reward. He was a lottery ticket taken a round too high that just happened to pay off.

          • daggolden

            You don’t pick punters, centers, RT in the 1st friggin 5 picks. You can get a RT in the 5th damn round.

          • MAC

            Let’s not forget we can still move Lane there after 2 or 3 years of Peters extension. Either way think of the o line in 2012 o line and you will realize what a mess the line could have been. Drafting Lane allowed Herremans to be moved to guard(where played much better than tackle), and solidified our entire line. This is a run first offense with the top back in the NFL behind it. Drafting Lane is no mistake. He can still move to LT after 2 or 3 years when Peters extension is either up or we let him go after the guaranteed money.

          • Richard Colton

            you’d rather have a bust at DE than an All Pro at RT? That isn’t how the Eagles draft. Not their philosophy. You may be setting yourself up for a disappointing draft night.

          • daggolden

            Ahhh so he is a All-pro now.lol. That’s what your projecting based on…. He had a ok year I guess. maybe we should take baby steps with the all-pro shit since he wasn’t even 1st, 2nd or 3rd team all-rookie. Fans crack me up with the well hes gonna be a all-pro. Says who? you?

          • Richard Colton

            Who’s calling him an All-pro? Did I say Johnson? It was a hypothetical.

            One of us understands the way the Eagles draft. The other one is you. We draft players, not positions. And if you want to complain about drafting good players, I can’t help you sport.

          • daggolden

            Heres one for you. 90% of fans cant name a RT on other teams in the NFL. After you do that find me a RT that was drafted in the top 10. (If you do its because they were a bust at LT). After that name me a RT drafted in the top 5. You can go back 30 years. My goodness.

          • Richard Colton

            you just said you would trade him for Tavon Austin. that about sums you up.

          • MAC

            Michael Oher was not drafted top 5 but was 23rd overall in 1st round. They are probably going to let him go or at least let him test free agency bc been so poor. By the way that Ozzie Newsome guy there pretty good GM I heard.

            Also just because he is not moved to RT year 1 or 2 doesn’t mean will never play left tackle there bud. So they should have let Peters walk after this year even if plays great because we drafted Lane at # 4?

          • daggolden

            Who said he was good? Eagle fans? He was ok I guess. Nothing special. You know what we should of drafted Earl Wolfe at # 4 because he is a good football player.

          • MAC

            I think the fact we lead the league in rushing might mean he played pretty solid huh?

          • daggolden

            Yeah with all them great 1st round draft picks there track record is great. Im glad you and the Eagles front office are on the same page.

          • Richard Colton

            well said

          • Nick

            Please explain what is soooooo bad about getting him with the 4th pick??? The eagles will have one of the most dominant Tackle duo’s in the nfl for years to come, and Johnson is only going to get better. Plus by extending Peters the eagles will save money. Who cares if we got him 4th or 44th, he has amazing upside and is made for kelly’s offense. when peters is eventually gone we can move johnson to LT and bring in another great athlete to play RT and do it all over again. The fact is we got a great player and a great front office saving us money. SO WHO CARES.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          This deal just tells most people that a freak athlete came back from not 1 but 2 injuries to the same area and, like all other aspects of his physical self, had a freak recovery back to a damn-good level of Tackle play. The Eagles should just move LJ over because they drafted him high? Very, very flawed logic.

          • cliff henny

            not only that, but it means lane’s a bust pick.

        • Weapon Y

          Or that Peters is really freaking good and the Eagles would be foolish to let him walk too soon. What’s so bad about having a good RT? Do you want to go back to Stacy Andrews, Winston Justice, King Dunlap, and Demetress Bell?

          • Andy124

            I agree with what you’re saying, but your last sentence does present a false dichotomy. Just sayin’.

          • Richard Colton

            King Dunlap turned into a pretty good OT. If I were a better person, I’d be happy for him.

  • Adam

    Wow! Didn’t expect this news today.

  • Jarrod

    Philly.com and ESPN both say its a 5 year, $51.3M deal. Anyone know which is correct?

    • Jarrod

      Someone can down-vote me for a self reply.

      Looks like it is a 4 year extension worth $41.3M added to his current contract of $10M this year. Therefore the total is 5 years, $51.3M.

      • jabostick

        Ha, here you go.

    • jabostick

      I understood it to be the extension is 4 years, $41 mill. Combined with the salary left on his original deal, it works out to 5 years $51.

      • Jarrod

        Thanks, that makes sense.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        I thought it was team option for 5th year

        • jabostick

          Could be. I didnt read it as that on twitter but that doesn’t mean much.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            corrected with edit, in my other post (with the Caplan tweet)

    • Richard Colton

      It’s the NFL, so its a $19.55M deal.

  • mtn_green

    I’m guessing it is really a 2-3 year deal with guaranteed money. Jason peters is a huge success story, great work ethic, he really shows up in games.

  • ochospantalones

    I am a little unclear on the parameters of the deal. $41.3 million over 5 years seems low for a guy who was already making $9.65 million. I think maybe it’s $41.3 million over 4 years added onto the existing deal.

    Anyway, $19.55 million guaranteed makes it sound like this is functionally a 2 or 3 year deal (depending on whether that includes 2014) to me. Seems like a good move, though I’d rather it be 2 years than 3. Peters should have 2 more good years left in him and Lane Johnson will have had at least 3 years to develop at RT before having to make the switch over to LT. By then they should know if he is up to the task (I think he will be, but he needs to keep improving). If Johnson isn’t a LT, they will have time to go find a replacement.

    • jabostick

      That is what I read – 4 yr, $41 mill extension. On top of the 1 year, $9.65 left on his current deal

    • Jarrod

      I agree, I think this is as you say “functionally” a 2 year deal. The $19.55M guaranteed would be this year’s and next year’s salary. After that they can make any moves necessary without dead money. If he is still playing well keep him another year and if not move on.

    • cliff henny

      look at it this way, it’s a 2 yr 10m per, with 3 1 yr club options for 10m.

      • ochospantalones

        That’s only true if the guarantees start now, rather than in 2015. That’s why I am curious about the structure of the deal. If it’s a 5 year, $51 million deal with $19.55 million guaranteed over the first two years then your explanation is exactly right (and I like the deal a lot), but it’s not clear to me yet that that is the deal.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          Yes. It is new deal, not extension to old. As in, expires in ’18, new $ starts this year

          • ochospantalones

            Yeah, they are now re-writing the original stories to make it clearer. The first reports were all muddled (4 year deals lasting 5 years and such). As a 2 year deal, I am in.

          • Tom W

            Yes! Howie kills it again.

          • cliff henny

            the man can write contracts

      • Richard Colton

        so no dead money when the guy is 34 and Lane is 25. Yep. I see it.

        • cliff henny

          i know i spell and have the grammar of an 8th grader, but trust me with the numbers, my employees dont call me rain-man behind my back for no reason.

          • Richard Colton

            You’re the 24/7 cap guru Cliff. The rest of us just live in your world.

      • Andy124

        Won’t that depend on how much of this is in the form of a signing bonus? Those get prorated against the cap for the duration of the contract right?

        • cliff henny

          nope, eagles are taking 10m cap hits next 2 yrs, at least we know they’re taking 9.5m this, so safe to assume taking 10m next year, that’ll cover all the guarentees, 19m, whether it’s salary or signing bonus. if eagles were only taking 7m cap hit in ’14, then i’d be worried about dead money in ’16.

          • Andy124

            Excellent.

    • aub32

      I think it’s worth mentioning that if JP does start to slip a little after 2015, we could always move him to RT and Lane to LT.

      • Andy124

        Or RG.

        • aub32

          I don’t see him falling off that far. Nor do I see us continuing to pay his salary if he’s a RG.

          • Andy124

            Don’t close the door on it. Picture a mentally healthy Shawn Andrews.

            And we’re talking about a couple years from now when we can renegotiate if necessary.

  • morgan c

    JP is great and all, but I guess I’m just missing something? He was already playing under a good contract that compensated him well. He’s 32. Why, exactly, did we feel the need to do this?

    • ochospantalones

      I believe his contract was up after the season, so if you want to keep him a couple more years now was the time to do an extension. I imagine there are probably cap reasons to do it now as well. They have a ton of cap room (and the cap is increasing significantly this year) so hopefully they have structured the contract in a way which allows them to move some money from 2015 and 2016 into this season’s cap.

    • aub32

      We will likely be extending a lot of guys next year: Foles, Boykin, Kendricks, etc. Best to get some of them out of the way this year.

    • Rahkem

      hes a FA after 2014 . better to get a deal in place now if reasonable that way you go into fa/draft with more clarity not only fro next year but the next 2 years. I stongly believe that the eagles were gonna look at a developmental tackle in those mid rounds before this deal. Now they might wait till later or see whats up next year

  • Dominik

    With a deal like that, it’s just great to have Roseman. If I’m a Cowboys fan (God forbid!), I think: wtf is Jerrah doing here? Again…

    With Roseman I scratch my head and think: well, he will get the Cap side of it right.

    Good to have a good LT for a few more years.

  • Token

    This could be brutal. We will have to see the structure. Does it lower his current hit? Can they still get out of it in a year or two?

    Peters wasnt the same guy last year. Still very good. But this tells me they believe he will get even better at 32.

    It also tells me what they think of Lane Johnson. They dont like him as the LT. Which makes that draft pick even worse IMO. RT at #4 is just terrible value. Tells me they dont like any young tackles on their roster much either. This gives them another couple years to find a LT.

    The positive side of it is this is a move a team that trying to win right now makes. Im hoping their other moves follow that notion. I dont think you do this unless you think you have a real shot at winning a title in the next 2 seasons. Because after that this contract is gonna look really bad.

    If someone has seen how its structured please post it.

    • cliff henny

      wow, you are consistantly uber-negative. doesnt it get old?

      • Token

        I dont sugarcoat. Sorry.

        • Token

          To further add… I mentioned the one positive. And even if you go as far to say that Peters will be awesome for another 2 years, its quite unlikely he is in year 3 and beyond. Thats when this deal can become pretty bad looking. But maybe its structured really well. Maybe the hit is lower. Maybe they can get out of it in two years. We will see.

          Even if that all works out perfectly, they still now took a RT at #4. That just isnt very good.

          Im hoping if anything this means they are really gearing up to go for it.

          • cliff henny

            except it’s a 2 yr contract, and for as much as you are on here, you know it was. by then, LJ will be 3 yrs into league, what’s always your rush on time? act like if he’s not FT LT after 1 season it’s a bad pick. plus, the difference between left and right is so much less in todays nfl, also, something you know.

          • Token

            How often does a top 5 tackle take 3 or more years to play LT in the NFL? Come on guys. If they liked Lane at LT. You dont commit to 10 mil a year on a 32 year old. Especially when you consider how many other needs they have right now. Much more impactful positions I might add.

          • cliff henny

            when vick was starter, LJ was blind side protector and defenses move best rushers around. think you are way over reacting to what really is a turning this yrs salary into a guarentee and a 1 yr 10m extension. we all knew peters wasnt going anywhere this year. i get it, you get off on extrapolating the negative. but this one, you are grasping at air.

          • Token

            If thats true awesome. But we dont know that. You dont know the year 3 dead money. Theres different ways it could be structured.

          • cliff henny

            yes, we do, it’s all over. only dead is if signing bonus is included.

        • knighn

          You shitcoat?

      • GEAGLE

        Leave him alone…I need people like him to make me look good when proven right

    • Tom W

      Wow you love to overreact. Maybe they realize Peters was playing like an allpro the last 8 games coming back from injury, doesn’t have a ton of tread like other ltackles bc he started as a te, is athletically and physically a freak, and he is only going to better this year and next. Its basically a two year deal for 20 million. I’m sure it has some dead money in year 3 but not a ton.

      Says nothing about lane johnson. Could easily be a probowl right tackle in 2015 and move over to left tackle for a decade in 2016. And even if he doesnt in the nfl these days the whole ltackle right tackle difference is hogwash except that it is the qbs blindside.

      • Token

        unlikely. If they believed Lane was a good LT then you play out this year and let Peters walk next offseason while moving Lane to LT.

        • Tom W

          so one more year of a allpro ltackle … god its so horrible. omg lane has to play right tackle for 3 years till he is 24 omg he is so goddman bad. cmon man … any team worth a nut isn’t letting an uber athletic allpro ltackle walk w/o some protection .. we have protection in yr 3, 4 and 5.

        • aub32

          Have you paid any attention to the rest of the league. Teams are struggling to get even one tackle that’s half as good as Peters. Why would they let him walk. Who do we have in place that’s going to be better than Peters in 3 years to play opposite of LJ? You need 2 tackles in this league.

          • Token

            Peters was gonna be here another year. They have had years to find another tackle that can start a NFL game. Apparently they haven’t.

            Anyone who wondered how the backup lineman were coming along, this should tell you what you need to know.

          • Andy124

            Extending one of the best tackles in the game who (imo) will be better next year than last reveals nothing about his backups. Tackles can last quite a while, especially if they’re willing to move to guard later in their career. Not to mention, only 20 mil of this is guaranteed.

            This is exactly the kind of move that Banner was crucified for not making. Identifying to correct vets to extend, even when they’re over 30.

          • Token

            Of all the things Banner did wrong, that wasnt one of them. Giving big money extensions to 32 year olds will usually not end up being a good move.

            And you guys all understand that. I like Peters too. But separate the love from the thought process for a second.

          • Andy124

            It was wrong when he didn’t resign Dawkins and wrong when he didn’t resign Trot. There were LOTS of times when it was right. That’s why I put correct in bold.

          • Uncle Wonder

            As far as the age issue…aside frm QB I think its clear that OL have the longest shelf life. Age just isnt all that relevant at a position that relies on strength and balance more than speed and agility. If JP stays healthy he can play into his late 30s if he so desires. That argument doesnt apply the way it does for RBs, WRs, CBs, etc

          • Andy124

            And kickers, who don’t count anyway.

          • Andy124

            Exactly. When we extend a 32 year old Shady or Djax to a big deal, then we can start worrying.

          • RIP illa

            I hear you man, but it’s not the same as the Cole deal. This one, w/ Peters, works in the team’s favor. Plus Peters is quality and should retire as an Eagle. So I’m glad he got the extension and we saved a couple mil.

            Now that Cole deal…horrible move!!! Banner would have never done that. I honestly was expecting Cole to finish the last couple of years of his career w/ a different team. Not get a huge payday.

          • Token

            As long as they can get out of it after 2 years without dead money, good.

          • peteike

            and an aging LT with sports science on his side, lest we forget haha

          • aub32

            Really? Peters was an all pro. There are 60 other starting tackles in the league that weren’t. So if saying that we chose to extend a guy playing at an all pro level means that the guys behind him suck, you are completely oblivious.

          • GEAGLE

            Someone put this man on timeout

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        2nd paragraph says it all. Token seems one news story from jumping ship at all times

        • Andy124

          Every fan base needs an Eeyore right?

          • GEAGLE

            Ha that was awesome

          • aub32

            This comment actually makes me appreciate having him on this board.

    • aub32

      He wasn’t the same guy coming off of two ACL tears. You’re right. However, despite that he was still a pro bowler and all pro. He may not return to 2011 form, but don’t we usually expect players to have better years in year two of a return from an ACL tear?

      Why are you up in arms about the structure of the deal before any of us even see it?

      Your conclusion about LJ is absurd and unfounded. How does this tell us anything about him? We have no idea about the structure of the contract. Also, there is still the option of moving JP to RT in year 3 of this deal if he starts to slow. You literally just reached as far as possible for the worst possible conclusions one could make from a deal you know next to nothing about.

      • Token

        Again, if they liked Lane there then hed be at LT in 2015. They dont. You dont resign a old guy to more big money if you like your young potential LT options. You dont move JP to RT and pay him that amount of money.

        This could be awesome for 2 years. I hope it is. But I wonder what the options are after that.

        I generally do not like throwing big money at old guys. Teams like the Steelers made a habit of doing that and it can put you in some big binds.

        Very few players after the age of 33 are going to be worth $10 million a year on the field. Its just how it goes.

        • aub32

          Big money? It’s just under 20 million guaranteed for an all pro LT. At this point I’m starting to think you are trolling due to boredom this morning. Look out into the league. There are LTs far less capable than JP making “big money”. Also, your point about LJ is just a grasp at straws that you are making because you never liked the pick. Again, you are all about getting what Token likes, and anything else is the worst move in the history of football.

      • Warhound

        Achilles Tendon, not ACL.

        • aub32

          My mistake

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        *achilles tear

      • GEAGLE

        No worries, he will be drastically better next year, unless he suffers injury set backs…if JP stays healthy, we will be happy. I bet anything he is drastically better next year…

        Apparently the second year back after injury on applies to other teams players lol love our fan base. No I really dont

        • aub32

          His logic on LJ doesn’t even make sense. Even if we moved him to LT in 2015, who would play RT. Why not go as long as you can with two of the most talented tackles as your bookends.

    • ochospantalones

      “RT at #4 is just terrible value.” Shouldn’t the context of the draft he was taken in matter? He was the third tackle taken, and had one of the two best rookie seasons (DJ Fluker, the 4th tackle taken was probably better). If Lane Johnson ends up being an above average right tackle he will very likely be one of the ten best players in the 2013 draft. That’s not ideal, but it is hardly terrible. It just wasn’t that great a draft. FWIW, Don Banks had Johnson going 7th in his re-draft.

      • Token

        No.

        Other than Vacarro wasnt there one or two other actual impactful players taken after him? I woulda rather had those guys. Guys that can mean the difference between wins and losses. We can go back to this argument all day, but a tackle just doesnt have that much impact. Teams win SBs with bad lines all the time.

        I would never take any tackle that high. But if a team is gonna do it, it should only be for a guy you project as a potential top 5 LT in the NFL. Now we can argue about the difference in RT and LT. And to a point I get that argument. But the fact remains that a RT is generally not facing the other teams best weapon on every snap.

        • ochospantalones

          The only team in recent memory I can think of that won the Super Bowl with a legitimately bad offensive line is the 2012 Ravens.

          There are a few players taken after Johnson (Keenan Allen, Sheldon Richardson, maybe Cordarelle Patterson) I would take over him knowing what we know now. But only Richardson was getting anything resembling top 5 consideration prior to the draft. Not being clairvoyant and realizing that a 3rd round pick would be a top wide receiver doesn’t make the Johnson pick bad, just imperfect.

          • Token

            Steelers, Packers, Seahawks wasnt very good. Giants. You can go down the list.

        • Richard Colton

          Normally I would call BS on this argument because anyone can Monday morning QB. But in Token’s defense, he was banging the drum hard for Vacarro before the ’13 draft.

          That said – Lane was a good pick. If the FO keeps drafting good to great players year after year, we’ll be a championship team

          • GEAGLE

            I’ll call bullshit because no one gives a shit what draft picks do as rookies

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      per Roob:

      The new deal adds four years to his contract.
      A league source said Peters’ 2014 base salary of $9.65 million remains the same, as do his $250,000 roster bonus and $100,000 workout bonus.
      The source said the new deal averages about $10 million per year for a total of about $50 million through 2018.

      • Token

        So is Roob right or is Caplan? Id tend to trust Caplan more.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          doesn’t really matter. The difference in their text pertains to this year only. No chance of going over cap anyway, saving the 2mil isn’t a huge deal.

    • JofreyRice

      Looks like a 2 year 10m/per contract. A little risky expecting him to play at a high level next season, and the season after that, but from the initial numbers, it reminds me more of the lower risk contract they gave Vick than the ones they gave Cole/Herremans that sort of make them uncuttable; a lot of sizzle, but not much substance. I think it is interesting they still believe he’s a 10 mil per year tackle.

      I wanted Vaccaro at #4, but let’s face it, that was a shit draft last year. A tiny slot WR at #8? WTF? Which of those rookies looks like a slam dunk? You can only pick from the pool of players available. They could have done better than Lane, but they also could have done a lot worse, and even for his struggles, Lane was an upgrade on Herremans out there.

      • Token

        Ok so the bonus is only spread over this year and next? Making him cutable with no dead money in 2016? Thats fine. Still dont get the reasoning behind doing it right now, but ok. I woulda have just let him play out the year at 10 mil. Many other needs to fill.

        I do wonder if I have to be worried about a OT in the first 2 rounds now.

        Its pretty obvious they needed that 2 mil of extra cap space this year to help afford Byrd :)

  • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

    #Eagles will save roughly $2 million in salary cap space in the first year of Peters' new contract.— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) February 26, 2014

    • Jerry Pomroy

      I guess the question then is, would that be this year or next since this is an extension on current deal?

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        fixed with edit

        • GreenScabs

          The Eagles can cut Peters after the 2015 season (two seasons) with absolutely no cap penalty. The fact that any Eagles fan is even remotely upset about this extension is ridiculous! It saves two million towards the cap this year, locks up an All-Pro LT for two more years, and after the second year the Eagles are not on the hook for any money. Johnson will slide over the LT in 2016 (all of four months after he turns 26). This is a win-win in every sense of the phrase!

          • Tom W

            Could be 2017 but win-win as well.

      • travis papa

        Deal runs thru 2018. Money and yrs include this yr coming so it’s 4yrs $41 extension. I’d imagine all dead money is out by 2016. Expect peters here for 3 seasons

    • Ark87

      I wonder what they have in mind for this cap space. Maybe get some front heavy contracts going for some of our young guys we need to extend? Doesn’t appear that there are any premium FA’s left worth breaking the bank over.

      Oops, I see, so first year being 15? This is so confusing. Did the original contract cover ’15? If not, it isn’t really saving anything, as we were scheduled to pay $0 to peters for ’15.

      • KobraKai7474

        To their credit and in spite of their many shortcomings, the Eagles front office has always been very good about dealing with the cap and maintaining financial flexibility. Even if they don’t spend a penny of that $2 million savings on a player during free agency, it still helps the team. Typically, the Eagles (unlike teams who are at or near the cap year in and year out) go into a season with a few million dollars in excess cap space. Then, if a key player gets hurt, they can go out and trade for or sign the best available replacement without being limited by the cap. The reason teams like the Cowboys tend to start seasons well and fade at the end is that they have no cap space to deal with the injuries that WILL happen over the course of a season. Best of all, whatever of that excess cap space is still left at mid-season, the Eagles can use it to re-sign current players to extremely cap-friendly extensions, which in turn helps them be more flexible in future seasons. The flexibility becomes self-perpetuating and it means that, if and when the season arrives where the team feels it should “go all in” after some huge free agent (like in 2011), they WILL have the money at hand to do it without mortgaging the future. The Cowboys and Redskins, on the other hand, are perpetually just trying to squeeze their current rosters, no matter how good or bad they are, under the cap.

        • Ark87

          While all that is true, I don’t quite get the “savings” portion of things. It seems that it applies to ’15, which he wasn’t under contract for to begin with (if I’m understanding things right). So paying him any non-zero figure for ’15 can’t be considering money saved for the cap. Sounds more like Peters will play ’15 at a 2 million dollar discount type thing, but relative to what? ’14′s or ’16′s figure?

          • MAC

            We save $2 million in the year coming up which would have been the final year of his deal.

          • Ark87

            a lot of folks are saying the upcoming year (’14) will remain the same.

            Near as I can tell, they are saying they didn’t extend his old contract as much as make a new contract to begin in ’15.

          • anon

            I think he got a signing bonus on his first Eagles contract, the value of which gets prorated over the life of the deal for cap purposes, even though he gets the money up front. So if he had a $10 mil signing bonus over 5 years it adds $2 mil to each years base salary, and that is what he costs against the cap. A new deal erases that charge, freeing up $2 mil he already got back in 2009. If they had cut or traded him instead the charge would have been accelerated and count against the cap for 2014.

          • Ark87

            Ah, thanks, Yeah this is why I could never take up writing contracts.

      • Andy124

        I wonder what they have in mind for this cap space.

        Coke for Colt.

    • Token

      So its back loaded? Really curious to see the dead money in year 3. How long does it usually take for that kinda stuff to come out?

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        if it’s only 19mil guaranteed, not sure if that includes the 10 this year. May be done as soon as the post-’15 season, in terms of PHI having an “out”, when need for some other extensions kick in

        Also, Howie may be taking advantage of the present situation and the one that’s predicted to keep happening: the cap will grow. Extra 5 to play with

        • KobraKai7474

          It definitely includes the $10 million this year. Undoubtedly, that is part of the reason Peters was willing to sign such a reasonable deal. Prior to this deal, his salary this season was, as is very typical in the NFL, non-guaranteed. Had he gotten hurt or just lost his mojo between now and September, the Eagles could have just cut him and he would have gotten nothing. Now, his salary this year is guaranteed, as is his salary for next year. Presumably, some piece of that guaranteed salary was converted to a “bonus” for cap reasons, but to Peters it is all the same: Money he will receive in 2014 no matter what happens.

      • KobraKai7474

        Only $19+ million is guaranteed. This is pretty much a two-year deal for around $10 million per year. If Peters is showing his age in two years, the Eagles can walk away without owing him anything while receiving only a small cap hit. This is a win for both sides. Peters gets some financial security (which at his age and only one year removed from a very major injury is a darn good thing) and the Eagles lock up one of the most important positions on the field for a minimum of two years with a pro-bowl caliber guy at a reasonable price and with only limited downside risk. For all we complain about the Eagles front office, they NEVER sign contracts that will saddle the team with major dead money down the road. They, smartly, leave that to the Jerry Joneses and Daniel Snyders of the league.

      • cliff henny

        there is no dead money outside the next 2yrs of guarenteed salary. dead money, outside guarenteed salaries, only happens when signing bonuses are prorated throughout contract. is no mentioning of a signing bonus, and sure there isnt, because his ’14 salary would have been adjusted down to load some into this year. it’s a 2yr 10m per with 3 1yr 10m clun options…win-win.

    • Tom W

      Howie!

      • Andy124

        This is Howie do it!

        So that’s what Montell Jordan was talking about. 6’8″ psychic he was.

        • GEAGLE

          “Have Meeeeeercy!” I can go on for days Andy!! You can’t out 90′s me, focker!!

          • Andy124

            I wouldn’t dream of trying.

          • GEAGLE

            I got my mark Morrison “return of the Mack” single waiting for when the Maclin extension is announced

          • Andy124

            Also appropriate for his first game back at the Linc as a visiting player should it play out that way.

          • Rambler

            One of my all time favorites, still on my playlist. Funny, I relate that song to Maclin as well for some reason.

  • anon
    • Eagledelphia

      Eh I dont really think he could fall much more anyway

    • knighn

      Cocaine is a Hell of a drug!

      Wonder if Geagle will like this since it might mean a better chance that Lyerla will make it to the team?

      • Andy124

        I hereby grant myself the right to speak for him:

        Yes.

        • GEAGLE

          Way to handle my proxy Andy!! Hell yes!!!

          • Andy124

            No problem Gio.

            Gio: Short for Giovanni.
            Giovanni: Italian for Johny. Bonus: Starts with the trademark ‘G’

          • GEAGLE

            Try Gianpaolo… But close..FYI people been calling me that my entire life

          • Andy124

            I’m like a psychic and sht.

          • GEAGLE

            Usually the brothers called me that(team mates) couldn’t pronounce my name…

      • GEAGLE

        I’m hoping he goes Undrafted…that’s my best case scenario. So yes, this is good news. I may not have to frame him for a crime after all

    • cliff henny

      i dont want to invite the guy to family dinner, but if kelly signs on, he knows the guy and if he can handle him.

      • GEAGLE

        I actually think he would be a fun house guest for a family dinner :)

        • cliff henny

          nawh, but he certainly can come to the after party and bring party favors. sure the crew he runs with has some hotties who fall down with their legs up in the air too.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol be a great dinner guest. Too yacked up to eat much!

          • cliff henny

            be a little uncomfortable to be eating sunday dinner with the parents while Colt’s doing nipple bumps off of strippers at the table

          • GEAGLE

            If we took Colt, I would like to see him live with Casey or Celek during his rookie year, the way Briere would have young Flyers rookies live with him after his divorce..

          • cliff henny

            get him, mathis and herremann’s out of the town together. i’d just follow them around as they leave a wake of women like the titanic, hit on the ones not totally destroyed

    • Token

      So much news over a guy that barely showed he could play the college game on a consistent basis. I get the freak athlete thing. But its probably not worth the trouble. Some people are just wired wrong.

    • Richard Colton

      I need you to forward that story to 31 NFL GMs

    • GEAGLE

      Is that the story of the sandy hook conspiracy? They can’t hold that crap against colt(although I like them too) some of the most famous athletes in America like Ronda Rousey tweeted that video…the conspiracy is BS, but the video was interesting,…one of my favorite conspiracy theories is the Denver airport conspiracy video. Shit is wild…anyone ever been in that airport confirm or deny the Allegations of the video?….

  • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

    Between Foles getting engaged and knowing his blind side will be protected for the next couple of years by Peters…you could say it’s been a good week for him.

    • Wilbert31

      Looking past the engaged part, yes!

  • Tom W

    Howie is making the right call … Can’t be paying two guys left tackle money. Lane’s deal is up in 3 yrs w a team option for a 4th. so the deal would get talked about in yr 3 at least. Lane is going to want ltackle money becuase he knows the eagles are moving him there. We cant pay Lane and Peters ltackle money at the same time. So if Peters all pro if not probowl play lasts three years .. we probably part ways then and sign Lane to ltackle money at a team friendly deal after 3 more yrs. Makes perfect sense and applause for Howie thinking that far ahead … three four five yrs down the road. Like Hinkie said, you may have 32 guys thinking how to think now, but if only one or two guys are thinking how to win 5 yrs from now … that could be the difference we need. Howie! Hinkie!

    • GEAGLE

      You applaud Howie for thinking that far ahead? Lol isn’t that what all GMs do?

      • Andy124

        isn’t that what all GMs do?

        Honestly, I doubt it. I would guess that that hyper-competative environment breeds and promotes more than its share of men who can’t think past winning today.

        • GEAGLE

          Call me crazy but I’m not surprised we extended the player who will be back to being the most dominant LT in football next year…just listen to any quote from Chip talking about JP, or Stoutland…special player that has plenty of time left in his Game. I expected the Kelce deal to get done first, but they weren’t going to make JP play with just one year left….that’s crazy Andy. Coaches think year to year, GMs look ahead(ATleast the ones who can count on job security)

          • Andy124

            If I were going to call you crazy, it wouldn’t be for that. lol

            And I don’t dispute any of that, I’m just not willing to give too much credit to all GMs. Some get it and some don’t in my estimation.

          • GEAGLE

            Crazy like a fox fucker lol

          • RIP illa

            Whaaaaaat??? Yeah, anyone that has sex w/ any animal, let alone foxes, is very crazy. Hey at least you admit it!!! :-)
            You definitely needed a comma there. Lol.

          • GEAGLE

            How do you know I intended a coma? Maybe I mean exactly what it says…mind blown?

          • Andy124

            HA! I never even considered putting a comma there! Works both ways though.

            But uh, humans are animals so…

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t discriminate

          • RIP illa

            I wanna upvote, but this is getting too weird now. Lol.

          • GEAGLE

            Don’t fight it,..just go with it!! Everyone is doing it. It’s the cool thing to do

          • RIP illa

            I shudder to imagine you browser history. :-)

      • 76mustang

        he may be an outlier, but Jerry Jones comes to mind as a GM that doesn’t think that far ahead…

        • GEAGLE

          Lol I wouldn’t exactly call jerry a GM…I dunno what to friggin call him, maniac fan boy with a ton of money is my best guess

          • Tom W

            worse then most if not all but closer to what most gms do with howie and a third of the gms on the other end of the spectrum thinking longterm.

        • Richard Colton

          Outlier might be the nicest thing ever said about Jerry Jones here

      • Tom W

        Most of them don’t even have jobs for 5 yrs in this NFL …. so yes most don’t think that far ahead unless they are on stable winning franchises because they are trying to save their own asses and win now. Cmon bro you think all 32 gms are looking 5 yrs down the road … that’s rich!!!
        I’d say maybe Howie, Pats Gm, Giants GM, Pack GM, Niners, Seattle, Elway, Pittsburgh (though not well lately), Baltimore, Bengals look 4-5 yrs down the road. Maybe bears and Rams too but dont have enough info. That’s 10-12. So no i would entirely disagree that is what ‘all Gms do” as you so comically put it. They may aspire to do that, but the great majority certainly don’t. Its take patience and some balls … realizing a move now may not look great for 3-5 yrs or to the average short-cited fan or owner.

        • GEAGLE

          Pretty simple..it’s all about the owner and stability of organization. If your owner is a realist who knows you have to be stable and build, as a GM you think down the road..if you are worried about being fired by an impulsive owner, you mortgage your future, trying for instant success(when the hell does that ever work?), usually just further digging your hole…

          I commend Lurie more, then I do Howie for making this move. Lurie allows him the stability to build the right way.

          • cliff henny

            trent’s isnt that bad of a contract, it’s just bad for Eagles. 6.6m for a mid level 8 year vet starter, isnt ridiculos money. the terrible years start next year, and it’s an easy out. Cole’s contract wouldnt even rank in top 10 on Dallas’ bad contract list.

          • Andy124

            And if not for the switch to a 3-4, we might not even be talking about his contract for this year.

          • GEAGLE

            Wish someone would take the time to watch all of Coles snaps this year, but I just don’t feel like doing it.
            ..
            There seems to be a major difference between how we perceive Trent, and the way our coaches and defenders talk about him…wanna know if he really played better then we give credit for.

            If BG is still here during camp, along with Curry, I’m going to go back and watch all their snaps, chart improvements/struggles over the course of the season

          • Andy124

            It stands to reason that you’d get the most honest opinion on Cole from us vice players who love him or coaches that protect him.

            As for how I think he played, good against the run. Not a total embarrasment, but significantly sub-par on those occasions he had to drop back. Could get to his spot and defend it, but had very little range. Most importantly, very little pressure as a pass rusher. Not only were the sack numbers low, they all came in about 3 games. And I don’t think there was much pressure that just didn’t turn in to sacks either, the kind Billy Davis liked to talk about as being just about as good as a sack. And the pressure statistics seemed to confirm the eye test on that.

            I would gladly trade some of his run defense for better range in coverage (aka better versatility) and better pass rushing. We’re in a 3-4 now. You can’t have a 3-4 without a stud pass rushing OLB. It’s just immoral! It makes my skin crawl.

          • GEAGLE

            Either way Cole isn’t the solution to our OLB problem but I dunno, it’s one thing to hear players support him, but players really went above and beyond to talk about what a beast he was….I just really want to know if he was forcing QBs to get the ball out faster, or if it was just bogus…if I thought Cole had a chance be the real answer, I would go back and watch him myself

          • GEAGLE

            Can’t expect a fan to give a real honest opinion on him unless they took the time to really go back and watch his snaps..fans might be able to tell you if he was successful, but the naked eye won’t tell you if he impact a team mate being successful. To really know how effective he was we have to see the impact he had on his team mates, not just if he made the tackle or not…even if he didn’t get pressure, if he attracted extra attention that gave cox single man to beat, then Cole was successful.
            ..
            Naked eye can’t tell his impact on the defense just by watching a game live

          • anon

            Considering we are one year away from a scheme overhall we’re pretty spoiled.

          • GEAGLE

            Agree, we are just spoiled by great cap management, and Howie could have never known we would change from a 4man line…

    • cliff henny

      Hinkie would have 5 2nds in this draft, though. atleast 2 top 25 picks too.

  • GEAGLE

    Shocker lol, silly fans who talk shit on JP and were ready to put the nail in I his eagles coffin will look foolish when they see him back to his dominant self this year!
    ..
    Great Move Howie, now get Kelce extended and throw Mathis a bonus

    • Tom W

      Thornton could get extended too …may just tender him as a 2d or 3d and see if he duplicates his play before we extend ….

      • GEAGLE

        Think his extension will come in October, but certainly possible.
        ..
        I wanna know if we are negotiating with Nate or not. That’s the only real question I have. Are we trying to extend him before he becomes a free agent, or will we just let him hit the market?
        ..
        I have to see Cooper in a different jersey before I actually believe he won’t be an eagle…I was under the impression that we couldn’t have sexy free agents because we have to keep the players we drafted who produce. crucial year in FOles development, WR coach LOVES coop…I simply don’t believe he won’t be an eagle

        I guess Mac is a question! along with Avant, but I don’t really care either way so it doesn’t concern me

        Wouldn’t mind extending Meco, get that Cap figure down, get him signed thru 2015(I plan on winning a Super Bowl that year), and an option to cut him in 2016(very possible)

  • FluxCapacitor

    I swear if some of the people on here hit the Powerball for $500M they would bitch and complain about the taxes they had to pay. Instead of being happy we extended one of the best LT’s they complain that the kid who just completed his THIRD YEAR at OT gets to learn more about the position before moving to the hot spot. Not sure if I am laughing at or about them.

    • GEAGLE

      When I saw this headline I never imagined anyone would have one bad word to utter about it….only this fanbase smh.

    • peteike

      you need that though, I used to be like that but not as much anymore. Its nice to have that to balance some of the “everythings rosey” optimists. That being said, it doesnt always fit the bill and when someone is like that about everything it can be tiring.

      • Andy124

        We’ve got the whole balanced ecosystem going on here.
        We’ve got our Eeyore.
        We’ve got our hyper cheerleader.
        We’ve got our voice of reason.
        We’ve got our cap guy.
        We’ve got our straight man.
        We’ve got our comic relief.
        We’ve got our stats guys.
        We’ve got our eye-test guys.
        We’ve even got a female.

        It’s like an entire self-contained blogvironment in here.

        • Ark87

          Need a rage monster somewhere in that list. Maybe the Incredible hulk: green, pissed, and never going to win the super-bowl so smash it all. No one person here singularly embodies this. It’s just a beast many of us turn into after bad losses.

          • GEAGLE

            Charlie garner fan…single handedly made the philly.com comment section unbearable. Dude makes Dutch look brilliant

          • Ark87

            I don’t have a history with that site’s comment section, but I always assumed that was a troll.

          • GEAGLE

            I never really commented on that site, but he was so absurd that you couldn’t miss him in the comment section…thats one committed devoted troll

          • Andy124

            Psh. He’s not even the worst one there. allword comes to mind.

          • Andy124

            Speaking of Charlie, I just peeked in over there. He’s PISSED about this. lmao!

            Also, they’ve switched to Disqus over there. I had no idea.

          • Ark87

            yeah that’s brand new to today, I think. I’m kind of excited, I can comment on Jimmy’s articles now!

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahaha classic. Been a long time since I peaked at their comment section. Glad to hear Charlie didn’t go the Dutch MIA Route

          • peteike

            oh man, cant stand that guy. He was actually okay in the Reid days and seemed at least somewhat reasonable at times. Then again, we were all ripping those teams anyway so he fit right in. I wonder if he isnt just a huge gmen troll. Allworld is another worst, zero objectivity from a bunch of them. That or just plain clueless and singe track thinking. I had to leave because it was the same nonsense every day.

          • GEAGLE

            If they are just trolling, then kudos. That serious commitment hasnt been seen since dude in tropic thunder went “full retard”

          • peteike

            which one of yall is TPizza? haha

          • Richard Colton

            Or Lonewolf?

          • Ark87

            that’s gotta be T-law, loves him some Lonewolf Mcquade :D

          • peteike

            oh wow, that one goes way back

          • peteike

            Bet they switched to Disqus to try to bring back half the posters that just came here and never went back to their site. Sheil took so many of us with him here.

          • Richard Colton

            That’s what I did pete. I was Dragoon6 over there.

          • peteike

            ahhh ya I remember that screen name, I think I argues with you a few times haha

          • Andy124

            I was atb124 over there. Well, actually, I was atb124 over here too. Don’t know if I posted there enough to be noticed.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          straight man?

          • Andy124

            aub. Rarely cracks wise.

    • Tom W

      Negadelphia but we do need some of those guys … I personally welcome and enjoy Token’s, Anon’s, Joffrey’s, etc.. well thought out opinions although they aren’t always rosy. Token’s criticism’s of Cary, Meco, Kendricks are fair and sometimes it takes someone else to not overrate our own guys.

      • GEAGLE

        Wanna be negative? We have plenty of players to be negative about, Chung, Roc, Casey, the entire safety situation, the Cole contract…JP isn’t one of them, being negative about JP is just being negative to be negative…I’m baffled at how anyone can have something bad to say about this…

        • Tom W

          Then tell them. I’m not being negative.

          • GEAGLE

            I did lol scroll down

        • Andy124

          Negative:

          This event made for some interesting convesations that have caused me to be less productive at work. Awful move by Howie. Doesn’t he care about my career? What a schmuck.

          • GEAGLE

            How rude(in my best Michelle tanner voice, pre cocain habit that is)

          • Andy124

            ‘Cut it out’ yesterday and ‘How rude’ today? You need to start avoiding the Full House re-runs, man.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol how can you not love that show? A wholesome family show who produced real life crack/coke/meth heads like Jodi(Steph), the billionaire 79lb adult coke twins and that maniac Bob Saget? I got some Steve Urkel and AC slater quotes to bust out for you later.. My lifelong goal is to fight screech in a UFC octagon. Can’t explain how much that prick annoys me

          • Andy124

            Saved by the Bell >>>>>>>>>>> Full House

          • GEAGLE

            Hell yeah!!! Jesse Spano before the showgirl days? Kelly kapowski was my first love, and Lisa turtle was mad under rated

          • Andy124

            All true. Leah Remini too (better known as Carrie from King of Queens).

          • GEAGLE

            Stacy Carrosi!!!! Funny she ended up more successful then all the saved by the bell chicks. Love Remini..funny chick

          • GEAGLE

            Laura Winslow was a Minx too but I was kind of turned off because I perceived her to have big man feet(I dunno why)

        • anon

          I gotta agree with you. How can you argue that we extended and all pro LT? People on here are crazy trying to cut anyone 29 or over it’s crazy. There’s lots of issues with this team, but extending the good players on here isn’t one.

          Personally, this team isn’t great with talent eval but they are great with cap management. I’m sure the deal is team friendly.

          • GEAGLE

            You gotta agree with me? Lol you say it like it’s some disease

          • cliff henny

            last 2 yrs the talent evaluations is catching up to cap management. cycle thru this and another off-season, ’15 Eagles will be down right scary.

          • GEAGLE

            Yup yup…if we have another good draft, next year we will be able to add specialty players like Joyner. Chip talked about building a young roster to where you don’t even have room for many new draft picks..imagine that!!! That’s scary if we can pull that off!

          • cliff henny

            dont think that’s possible. be nice to get to 9ers level. great roster, layered contracts (have no fear in this, howie’s got this under control), disgusting amount of picks to where eags can package and strike most desirable players, and also move back to get more picks following year. only hope that 9ers wont take next step is Kaep struggles.

    • NickS1

      I’m ecstatic that we resigned JP, but I’d be PISSED paying the gov’t that much money simply because I got lucky.

  • GEAGLE

    JP is a work horse, all business. This man is on a mission for playoff success. He wants it bad!!! And word is he has been a huge help mentoring Lane(along with Mathis). Like my eagles like shady and JP who expect to have playoff success and take it really hard when we fail…JP brings so much more to our team then just what we see on the field, and next year I’m expecting drastic improvement from this year out of him

  • Stuart Philp

    Solid deal! We get 2 more years of JP (hopefully) playing at an elite level. Then we see where he’s at. If we need to cut him for all the rookies that are up to renew in 2016, or his production slips, then we have those options.

  • GEAGLE

    Anyone seeing any drastic Mock changes yet now that the combine is over? Would love to see Johnny Football fall to us, but I hear the little prick interviewed well

    • Ark87

      nothing as seismic as that Dontari Poe combine. Someone who has been climbing the boards steadily all off season long has been Aaron Donald. I think we should seem him higher on a lot more boards.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah he was beastly at the combine..a rational mind would mock him to the cowboys lol but trying to predict what Jerry will do is like getting 7 lottery numbers correct. The easier teams to predict follow logic, Ryme and reason…I’d give anything to see the cowboys war room when they are on the clock
        ..
        Like for the eagles, there are some parameters we can now use to try and predict our draft moves, I get the impression that Jerry’s draft depends on how he wakes up on draft day:
        Eagles draft picks will be:
        versatile
        Really good athletes, usually having size
        usually played against quality competition
        Charecter and football intelligence.

        You would think every team would operate like that but we couldn’t say that about Andy

        • Andy124

          You have no idea how I operate…

          • GEAGLE

            Small, “fast balls” from bumble F**k university? Wrong Andy?

          • Andy124

            Mmmmmm, BBQ.

        • Ark87

          not sure if you’ve seen it, but do you expect any players dropping off a cliff because of the combine? I know DAT didn’t help himself, but I don’t think many considered him a top pick anyway.

          • GEAGLE

            Seen some movement already but nothing major yet. Jimmie Garrapolo is now a 2nd round QB
            ..
            Jarvis Landry was talked about as a 2nd round pick and he could have dropped to like 5th round having a horrible combine(I’d love to take him late)..Greg Robinson leaped Mathews and will now fall no further then #6..Pryor hurt himself but safety position is so week that I still think he goes top 25…

          • cliff henny

            jarvis landry. 4.7 has to take him to 5th

  • GEAGLE

    Cliff, cowboys expected to hand Tyrone smith a crazy extension similar to Joe Thomas, 7yrs 84mil with 44mil in Guarentees lol

    • cliff henny

      thought he couldnt get done till next year. i cant wait to see how that contract is structured. by the time they get out from under Romo’s albotross of a contract, Smith’s will start to explode. read the best way was to transition him in ’15, then franchise in ’16, then get longer term deal. that way could get out from under all this cap gymnastics. well, all aboard the restructure train!
      .
      issue with dallas, is we see that contract and think 4 yrs 44m. dallas, he’ll see 9yrs 115m.

      • GEAGLE

        He was 20 when they drafted him, now he is 23, so that makes him eligible right? Rotoworld is reporting it will get done in the not so distant future. He is a great OT but they talking crazy dollars lol and we complain about the JP extension? Lol

        • cliff henny

          knew he wasnt going anywhere. smith cap number was going to be reasonable this year, 4m, for a team desperately trying to get under. Jerry’s going to juice those numbers, have restructure years, he’ll get all of that 84m, probably more. Jones just cant stop, guy is an addict. this contract means everyone has to get restructured, romo witten scandrick lee carr, if not this year, next. the real cap issues are in ’15, and he just made them worse. long as they stay on the restructure train, cant sign any depth. going to be 12 guys making 100m, 40 guys making 32m. jesus, if he signs Hatcher and Spencer, restructure Ware, man, Dallas is going to be garbage in 2 yrs.

          • GEAGLE

            Hahaha this division is almost too good to be true. Thank god for a tougher out of division schedule next year, we need some real battles to get us ready for playoff success

          • NickS1

            By garbage in two years, I presume you mean worse than they are now.

          • GEAGLE

            As difficult as that is to imagine, YES!!!!

          • cliff henny

            i figure by JJ’s cap gymnastics, the team we saw last year should be outside draft picks the exact same team in ’16, minus Ware. by ’17, Romo should be a shell of himself, but still 20m cap hit for another 2 yrs. with that being said, think Dallas might have a decent ’14, then it’s time to circle the drain.

          • NickS1

            That D is still terrible. 8-8 again

  • daggolden

    What fans fail to realize with LJ is not that he may not be good @ RT but the difference between LJ and a journeyman Allen Barbre is minimal with the journeyman playing well when JP went down. You could of offset that with Barbre being your RT for the next 4 years and had a impact player like Cordell Patterson (a impact player), Star Lotulelel, Kenny Vaccaro, Sheldon Richardson or a Eric Reid instead of a RT. Hell I would trade LJ for Tavon Austin to play in the slot in this offense today.

    • Richard Colton

      “Hell I would trade LJ for Tavon Austin” – this is why they invented down votes

      • OldDocRoss

        I was also excited about Allen Barbre with his seven career starts in seven years being confidently projected to play RT at a good level for the next four years. I like Barbre and all but, y’know?

        And has the world not passed laws yet against people who treat “of” and “have” like they’re interchangeable? Because it really should.

        • Andy124

          If the world really wanted to pass that law, I think it could of by now.

        • 76mustang

          Don’t you know…using proper grammar in today’s world is akin to admitting you had proper instruction and actually paid attention in class – not cool.

          Anyways its not like yousing bad grammer meens any thing anyways…your to harsh and judge mental.

          • OldDocRoss

            Me? Judge Mental?!

            You’re lucky I don’t take a fence to that comment!

      • cliff henny

        stink disqus got rid of down-votes.

        • GEAGLE

          No way? Are you kidding me? My poor groupies!! This sucks

          • Richard Colton

            Think you can compete with the guy who wants to trade Lane Johnson for Tavon Austin?

          • GEAGLE

            Lol that’s rough

          • cliff henny

            see, i DV’d you, just comes up as red. i’ll just let people know my upvote is really a down vote

          • GEAGLE

            Wtf it doesn’t come up as red. I was wondering where my groupies were. I was starting to feel not popular, like a faded prom queen.. Tim and Sheil always find a way to steal my thunder. Taking away down votes is just wrong. I’m not even joking now, this sucks

          • cliff henny

            nawh, was disqus. read the change was so people would be less confrontational…which, pretty much goes against us philly people-mean, we want people to know. cause at least when i disagreed, i just downvoted. now, i’ll have to tell people they’re stupid.

          • GEAGLE

            Not cool. People can’t swing from my nuts if they actually have to form and argument that can disagree with my posts they down vote…I’ll never be popular again!!! This blows. Screw you Disque man!!! Lol at this politically correct sissy society worrying about to much computer screen confrontation. We are such pussies

          • peteike

            wow that is lame. How PC can you get, big big down vote to Disqus. Cant everyone just get along……..NO

          • GEAGLE

            You guys are just cyber bullies. Meanies

          • Andy124

            fwiw, Tim and Sheil had nothing to do with it. It’s a Disqus thing. I kind of miss them too.

            EDIT: There were like a dozen posts here that weren’t appearing for me, thus the redundant post.

  • GEAGLE

    If CJ Mosely falls and makes it past GB, Niners could want to trade up to secure an early season insurance plan to injured Navarro Bowman who is critical to that defense. Safety also may attract the Niners to trade up, especially since there is now a much better chance of Pryor falling to 22. Hearing Carr is attracting teams so I’m not so sure he last til 24. Niners basically have the trade ammunition to get whatever player they want…Taylor Lewan could have combined his way to the Giants at #12

    • RIP illa

      If it’s the 9ers then I’m taking them for all they got. No swapping 1st and throwing in a 3rd. Swap 1st and take the Chiefs 2nd and I’d push for a 4th or 5th. If they can’t handle it, then see if any other team wants to get back in the 1st. If not stay put.

      I’m kinda bummed out about the 1st rd this year. Seems like we have terrible luck in that rd. last year, #4 overall pick and a shitty draft class. This year, we have a deep draft class, but the players I want and that we need can be gone by the time we pick. We won’t get a stud ROLB, maybe Barr but he still is raw (not really pumped but not really down either). I’m not a fan of us using a 1st on Benjamin, who I think could be there. Would def use a 1st on ODB, so that leaves Lee. I’m not cool w/ using a 1st on him either. Those are really the only WRs I like and think should be in the 1st, including Watkins and Evans. I hate this safety class and can’t justify using a 1st on anyone but Dix, and he’ll most likely be gone. Gilbert showed out too much at the combine, so he’s gone. Wouldn’t mind having Roby on the squad, but I’m on the fence about using a 1st on any corner other than Gilbert. No RBs, TEs, Or DEs I would use a 1st on (Save ‘Shede). So that leaves OL, NT, and ILB. Mosley is the only legit 1st rd ILB in my mind and he’ll prolly be gone too. And I’ll leave the OL talk for people that know more than myself. And no too a 1st on a DT…’Shede still being the only exception for both NT and DE.

      To me, it seems like we lost a whole lot of value now that the combine is done. Trading back is always tricky. So looks like we’re gonna have to play the “Lets See Who Falls” game. Or…even though it was dead set against it before…trade up and grab someone who can make an impact for us!!! I’d give a 1st and 2nd (while hopefully, getting back a 3rd) to Grab Evans or Mack right about now and ride out the stop gap thing at safety, while drafting the S from FSU later on or McGill and converting him. Or hell, get Telvin in a isolated room and condition him w/ water boarding, into believing that he’s a Safety instead of LB!!!

  • GEAGLE

    Wonder if the Bengals would give up Margus Hunt for the #22 pick???

  • GEAGLE

    JP tweeted “I’m ready to go to battle for Chip for the next 5 years”
    ..
    Ertz tweeted: “JP best early birthday present FOles could get”, FOles re tweeted it

    JP caught a TD pass from JP Loseman, lol wonder if that has Chips wheels turning

    • Richard Colton

      Ertz spells it FOles too, huh? You’re really having an impact.

      • GEAGLE

        You know!!!! My damn autocorrect types BOrtles with the FOles O and I can’t delete, but Blake doesn’t deserve the BIG O respect that FOles gets so from now on, I can only refer to him as Blake B

  • peteike

    Tim, Sheil, almost at 300 comments here. New article, cmon guys. You could even just put up a headline with a sentence to get everyone on a new subject haha

    • Bert’s Bells

      At least 250 of them are from the same guy.