What They’re Saying About the Eagles

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Here’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles this week.

Evan Silva of Rotoworld unveiled his list of the top 150 free agents. He’s got Jeremy Maclin at No. 35:

Turns 26 in May. Tore right ACL last July. Has some big-play ability, but not a physical receiver. Had best season (70-964-10) in 2010. Wants to stay in Philly.

It’s worth noting that the only wide receiver Silva has ahead of Maclin is Denver’s Eric Decker at No. 15.


He has Michael Vick at No. 65 and Riley Cooper at No. 80:

Ran 4.53 at 6-foot-3, 222 coming out of Florida. Field stretcher (16.3 career YPR) and touchdown scorer (eight in '13). Solid complementary No. 2 receiver to a 1A. 26 years old. Some teams may write him off after last year's Kenny Chesney concert incident.

Silva has Nate Allen at 101 and Donnie Jones at 133.

Peter King of The MMQB notes that the Eagles were one of the teams Johnny Manziel met with at the combine:

But it’s known from reports in various places that Manziel met with Houston, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Dallas, Tampa Bay and Philadelphia coaches and team officials, and very likely Oakland, this weekend before flying back to Texas late Sunday afternoon.

It's worth pointing out that prospects meet with a bunch of teams at the combine. That's the purpose of the event in Indy. Having said that, expect the national media to continue to make some kind of Manziel-Chip Kelly connection in the months ahead. We just heard Bill Polian do so earlier this week.

Pat Kirwan of CBSSports.com passed along an interesting nugget about Joe Banner:

Ousted Cleveland CEO Joe Banner -- who is transitioning out of his role in Cleveland after being not asked back along with GM Mike Lombardi -- had the new offensive and defensive coordinators reporting directly to him, CBS Sports NFL Insider Pat Kirwan reports.

Kirwan spoke to a league source at the NFL combine in Indianapolis who told him Banner was a bit of a control freak and structured the coaching staff so that the new coordinators would answer directly to him.

The Seahawks are expected to release defensive lineman Red Bryant, per Alex Marvez of FoxSports.com:

Bryant turns 30 in April, but at 6-4, 329, he fits the "big people" mold. The Eagles' potential interest would likely depend on his market/asking price.

Dan Kadar of SB Nation has the Eagles taking Oklahoma State CB Justin Gilbert in the first round:

The run on cornerbacks should start with Green Bay. Gilbert has some flaws on tape, but they're all coachable points. He's a better athlete than the other top cornerbacks in the draft this year.

Bucky Brooks of NFL.com offers a new name for the Eagles at No. 22: Oregon State WR Brandin Cooks:

Coach Chip Kelly's explosive offense is built around speedy playmakers on the outside. Cooks is a big play artist with the speed and quickness to excel as a vertical threat or "catch and run" specialist.

And finally, one local note. Paul Domowitch of the Daily News passes along an interesting nugget about the 2011 draft:

"That whole draft was about need," said a personnel executive who was with the team during that draft. "We didn't have a guard on the depth chart, so we drafted a guard in the first round [Danny Watkins]. We didn't have a safety, so we pushed the safeties up a round and took Jarrett.

"We didn't say, 'OK, this isn't a good safety group, so let's pass and find a stopgap and get by.' Every team has weaknesses. But [Reid decided] that we were going to take the next safety and go from there."

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  • George

    Cooks is too similar to djax in size and speed. Won’t happen. esp. with benjaminleft there

    • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

      It’s funny how Cooks is written off re: size and speed, but plenty of others (not accusing you) have no problem with DAT or Dri Archer later in the draft. I guess it’s strictly a value/round conversation? I think there are plenty of great big WRs as well, but I wouldn’t be too upset if Cooks was in green. He’s not some 1-trick pony type player; he won the Biletnikoff, 128 catches for 1730 yds and 16 TDs. Seems like a good kid overall: http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/12/hawaii_bowl_driven_by_fathers.html

      All that said, maybe trade back and still get him? Or take a WR later? This group is crazy deep. Literally 15 guys I’d like, at all stages of the draft.

      • CJ

        I’d call that a value thing. Don’t want Cooks in the 1st if I can get DAT or Archer in the 5th. Sure there’s a drop in talent, but I’d argue less than the drop at Rush LB, DB, etc.

        • anon

          Given what’s on our roster and the way the league is, if i’m drafting a guy in the first or second he’s going to be a body. You can always get track stars later — but you can’t teach 6’2 220 with a 4.5.

    • mksp

      Benjamin’s gonna fall I think. Older, inconsistent hands, and combine numbers were pretty poor.

    • 76mustang

      Cooks can play inside or out – he’ll go over the middle, and he’s already decent in his routes. He’s got a thicker build than DJax, and he already possesses a driven work ethic. Also, he can return punts and kickoffs – Chip and coaches could do a lot with Brandin in the mix.

  • Chris

    The 2011 draft…when keeping it real goes wrong. Also, thanks everyone for your comments and conversation, I don’t always have the time to follow the combine mess so it’s good to get a lot of that info from the good conversation on here.

    • knighn

      Agreed. I’ve hardly had the chance to read anything lately, so reading what the knowledgeable (and very opinionated) fans here post is great. I may not agree with all of it, but I appreciate it all.

    • G_WallyHunter

      I’m not taking any credit for these comments (leave that for geagle, cliff, Colton, fellow eh-er Adam, joffrey, Rob, illa, both Andy’s, I’m missing a few others) , but its nice to see this kind of recognition, its what keeps the comments coming and keeps the insightful discussions rolling….

      • Adam

        I’ve got a new job in Fort mcMoney, so my in mountain time and working crazy hours so I haven’t been able to contribute near as much as I used to when I was on the east coast, but I still do my best to keep up. Great place, not sure what I’d do with the comments section.

        • jabostick

          Welcome to Alberta. It is f*ckin coooold up there right now!

          • Adam

            Thanks brother. The cold is really something else. I’m out on site and it’s just unreal. When they tell you it’s a different type of cold it’s hard to understand but it’s really true.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            good luck up there. taking up curling?

            I know what you mean, mid-east desert is the opposite version of that; just a different kind of hot. At least with the cold you can put on more layers, but in the sand you can only get so naked.
            also, start converting the natives to Eagles fandom

          • Adam

            Dude I’ve been curling since I was 12. I’m a god damn pro now. It’s in my blood.

          • Richard Colton

            Which Eagles (past, present, future) would make/have made the best curlers?

          • Rambler

            Jason Avant… he went to Michigan and he runs the best “curl” routes.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Trot would have to be on the team.

          • Andy124

            You know TO did plenty of curling with those biceps.

          • Adam

            Danny Watkins, for obvious reasons.

          • Chris

            my vote would be for Andy Reid, that mustache would make for a flawless broom

          • jabostick

            I’m gonna say GJ Kinne, just because GJ Kinne. Apparently Vernon Davis said he curled which is about the last guy in the world I’d expect.
            Chip Kelly hurries hard so he could be on the team. Nnamdi or DRC would make a good skip because they skipped most of their plays while they were with the birds

          • Maggie

            Vernon Davis tried curling. Kept falling over when trying to throw the rock. Harder than it looks. And nowadays you won’t find a top level curler who is fat, ala Reid.

          • G_WallyHunter

            A dry cold, my buddy works shifts out there he says the -40 days aren’t as bad as the -20 days here in Ontario because the humidity isn’t in the air but in Ont it sticks to ur skin,makes sense, I see what you’re saying..

        • G_WallyHunter

          Ah fort crack, very nice, good thing this site is keeping you sane up there anyways. Now you’re in a lot colder weather than I am lol got me beat

  • Vet Linc

    Reid is a dope

  • knighn

    Speaking of things I don’t agree with…
    Many believe that Trent Cole is “uncuttable” in 2014 due to his dead money.
    I strongly disagree. Using the numbers from EaglesCap, Cole’s 2014 salary is 6.6 million. His dead money if cut is only 4.8 Million. That represents a Cap savings of 1.8 million… not to mention a very real 6.6 Million dollars that the team would not have to spend on Cole in 2014. Additionally, the team would also save a minimum of $3.2 Million Cap Space for the 2015 season.
    Now, I’m not advocating that the Eagles cut Cole. I’m just saying: if they really wanted to, they easily could.

    • travis papa

      Said the samething in the last article. Graham is less likely to get cut than Cole. Eagles actually lose money cutting graham. Cole has no chance of being here in 2015 but graham has a manageable pass rushing specialist salary the next 2yrs. He will be better each extra yr he has in the system as well. Don’t count the kid out yet. Grahams cap number actually drops a small amount in 2015

      • GEAGLE

        Wtf? Doesn’t Graham’s contract expire after next season?

        • knighn

          Eagles signed him in 2010, back when the league still allowed 6-year rookie contracts.
          http://www.eaglescap.com/Players/BrandonGraham.html

          If the Eagles really want him, we’re stuck with him until after the 2015 season. Hopefully Graham will show something this year… or the Eagles will trade him. Nice guy, but he’s had some bad luck and has never shown that he was a better choice than… I just can’t say it. FU Andy Reid!!

        • travis papa

          If you look on eaglescap.com it says he signed a 6yr rookie deal. Due to his injury he won’t reach certain escalators & his last yr can be voided. That last yr is 2015. I don’t know if it has been voided yet or they have to wait. No point in voiding any earlier than they have to

    • GEAGLE

      I would friggin love us to cut Cole like tomorrow, I just don’t expect it to happen. Cole we already know we won’t want past this year, BG ATleast has a bit of hope to play well year two in a scheme and become someone we want to keep past this year…but if I had to bet on it, I’d say neither will be here in 2015…

    • Token

      Yea we talked about this before. Id think it makes little sense to keep him. Unless they arent planning to draft or add any high end OLBs this offseason, which is really unlikely.

      You only save 1.6 million in dead money by waiting until next season to cut him. Get it over with now.

    • JofreyRice

      I think he’s be worth the 1.8 m sitting on the bench as injury insurance. Even with his faults, I don’t think you can add a backup OLB of any merit for less than that. And there is no one pushing him. It’s clear they don’t like Graham. Curry’s stuck playing 1 gap nickel DT, and the rest of the guys aren’t even at Cole’s current level. So unless they are adding Barr or Ford or Mack, I can’t see it happening.

      • knighn

        The 1.8 Million for Cole is just cap space, not real dollars. The real question to the Eagles:
        Is Cole worth 6.6 million very real dollars to them… especially since:
        a) Cutting / Trading him in now would free up 1.8 million in the cap in 2014
        b) Cutting / Trading him in 2014 would free up at least 3.2 milion in dead money in the 2015 cap (where I think the Eagles will really want and need the cap space).
        If they wait until after 2014 to Cut / Trade Cole, that will all count towards a year (2015) in which the Eagles may need to extend Foles… and a number of our other young players.
        -
        While I agree with you that the Eagles seriously lack pass rushers, I also agree, in theory, with the Eagles’ idea of a “walk-away number” and I believe that over-paying for need can get a team in almost as much trouble as over-drafting for need.
        -
        I like Cole. I think he’s been a very good soldier for the Eagles. I just don’t completely buy that he’ll be absolutely necessary for the 2014 team…. especially since I don’t see 2014 as the “over the hump year”. The ideal, for me, would be if they could restructure his contract so that everything counts towards 2014 and nothing counts towards 2015. If they can cut his pay while they’re at it, great, but at least get that 2015 cap hit off of the books.

        • JofreyRice

          I hear you.

          FWIW, Andrew Brandt was talking about the hallmarks of bad salary cap management. One was the constant restructuring that resulted in balloon payments to star players, completely hamstringing the team–such as Romo’s 48 million dollar salary next year (hyperbole).

          One of his other big ones was having dead money paid to guys no longer on the roster–i.e. a guy that gives you absolutely 0 value for what you’re paying him. They just got Nnamdi’s 4 million dollars off the books. I think they were willing to take the chemo there to get rid of Nnamdi’s poor play, elitism, selfishness and whatever really happened with him inside the locker room, but I don’t think they want to make it a habit.

          We’ll see what happens.

          • knighn

            Damn, I wish I still had the numbers on Nnamdi. Pretty sure it was more than a $4 million Cap Hit to get rid of him because they owed him $4 million guaranteed for 2013 and I’m sure his initial bonus was prorated against the cap. Still that $4 million guaranteed was better than paying him his $12 million salary which would have hurt much more in the wallets and in the cap (and would have been a total pain the ass for the fans). At the time when the Eagles signed him, it looked like a great deal because Asomugah was supposed to be one of the two best corners in the NFL. Man, he declined fast!
            -
            In other news, Jerry Jones still thinks he’s the best choice for the Cowboys GM. Jerry, unless you’re thinking about hiring Matt Millen… yes, Jerry, you are the best choice for the Cowboys GM. Must be nice to be the owner of a football team. Any other GM with only one playoff win in 17 seasons would have been fired a loooong time ago!

  • RIP illa

    Justin Gilbert just solidified himself as the #1 corner in my mind. Size, speed, ball hawking skills, and better more fluid hips than Dennard.

    • travis papa

      Kid admitted more or less he has no passion for the gm. Doesn’t watch it doesn’t care about it. He’s looking for a pay check. Id take him off my board. Hate players like him.

      • Clamdigger

        Hah.

      • RIP illa

        What? Where and when was this.

        • travis papa

          He was asked how he compared to aqib talib and said “who I don’t know who that is. I don’t watch a lot of football.” He did know Peterson Haden and Sherman but I’d really hope he knew atleast some of the top players at his position. Didn’t know who antone exum was either who was probably ahead of him during all.the drills. I want someone who is a passionate fan of the gm not just there to get paid.

          • GEAGLE

            Gilbert: “I compare myself to Dion Sanders, NFL hasn’t seen a rookie CB like me in a long time”…modest huh?

          • RIP illa

            Ok. I read the quotes on PFT. When taken into context, the Talib part is not as bad as it sounds and when speaking in reference to Exum saying he’s the best, I read it as he was just shooting down a loud mouth by giving him no credibility of existence.

            I get your point about guys not loving the game. Sometimes I just don’t care, as long as they can ball out and take their job seriously.

          • travis papa

            Not a guy I’d draft in the 1st. Lack of passion has DRC ringing in my ears. Those types of people I feel have a higher tendency to hold out or quit on a season or leave town to chase the biggest contract. Don’t trust him.

          • anon

            Yeah that’s not going to happen, especially looking at the guys that’s we’ve gotten in the last 2 years the LOVE football.

    • GEAGLE

      Like I said, he is probably the only real 1st round talent at CB…all the other Cbs should be round two players in my opinion. fuller is probably the only other CB who IMO. Should be taken in round 1..I wouldn’t take Dennard over Trufant who went at the end of round 1 last year…

      Roby is probably the only other CB with true round 1 upside, but he has a horrible year, but I expect him to test really well today

      • RIP illa

        That pretty much sums up the DBs. Fuller, Gilbert, Dennard for 1st. I don’t care about Roby’s down year as much as some. Can the kid play??? And he’s shown he can. What bout Varrett? I think he’s a sure 1st.

        • GEAGLE

          I don’t know what to think of Roby, this time last year I was talking about. Targeting him in this upcoming draft, but then he went on to have a horrible year…he would have been the first CB drafted had he come out after last year, I just don’t get how he could have been so bad this year…

          Kid will put on a show today, I probably wouldn’t be mad if we drafted him, because he has real quality potential, but he isn’t a target that I feel like we have to have

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          What bout Varrett? I think he’s a sure 1st.

          best part of this draft is, there about about 40-45 “sure 1sts”. At least 5 OL, 3 QB, 8 WR, 2 TE, 5 DL, 4 OLB, 3 ILB, 5 CB, 2 S

          • GEAGLE

            You plan on trading Boykin? Not sure why you would want to draft a Nickle CB in round 1, but if you are under 5’10, I have no desire to see you as an outside CB in today’s NFL

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I don’t see how the heck you interpreted any of that. I’m just responding to RIP’s notion there are 5 1st-rd capable CBs (who all are obviously not going in the 1st), just like many other positions.

          • Token

            Thats silly. This thought that the league is full of giant corners is ridiculous and wrong.

            Pete Carroll was asked if teams will copy his use of big corners with speed, he simply said no because they dont exist. Very true.

            Tho everyone seems to think they do. Your typical corner 6’0 and over is closer to the skill of Cary Williams than Richard Sherman. Talent wins over size. Just being big means nothing.

          • GEAGLE

            Verrett is a Nickle. and a lot of way smarter people then me view him the same way…5’10 is SHORT!!! 5’8 is situationa player type short….sorry, but A first round pick should be a starter, and I don’t want to see anyone 5’8 starting for the Eagles…I’m not saying we need 6’3 corners, but come on, 5’10 is where I draw the line at outside CB….but hey you are welcome to feel differently about it…someone will draft Verett in round 1, try to play him outside and eventually settle on making him a nickle

          • Token

            The majority of outside corner in the league are 5’10 to 5’11.

          • GEAGLE

            Not 5’8!!!!

          • Token

            I dont care about whoever you are talking about in the draft. Just saying the point about needing giant corners is silly.

          • GEAGLE

            Dude, I said 5’10 corners are perfectly acceptable so no need to twist my words around….I can’t believe so many of you take exception to me not wanting 5’8/5’9 outside corners but we can put that down in the agree to disagree column

          • Khalid Washington

            Geagle you seem pretty knowledgeable. I foresee Roseman and Chip going at Curry if he’s there which I don’t mind cuz he’s fast off the edge. In ur opinion who will they go after and what are the chances they go after Deone Bucannon?

          • GEAGLE

            Curry? I actually think Deone is probably really high on our wish list…personally, I’d rather have him then any other safety in this draft? Vinny Curry will pack on more weight to play DE, doubt we move him back to the edge

          • Khalid Washington

            My bad Geagle I meant Barr. I was he asleep when I wrote that lol

          • Maggie

            Just to add to your comment. Six feet is not “big” anyway. there are 6 foot guys, or taller, walking down any street in North America. The average height for males in this part off the world is getting close to 6 feet. A 5’10″ to 6′ young man who can cover should be normal as far as size goes.

          • Richard Colton

            That number should be up to 55 by May. So no matter what, a decent draft will net us two SURE 1sts

          • RIP illa

            Pretty much dead on. Who are the 3 ILBs?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I’d say Mosley and Smallwood have 1st rd talent. Borland is right on the edge, I think he could be a great 43 MLB. Two other borderline guys are KVN (I do think he can start at OLB or ILB in a 34, or SAM in a 43) and Christian Jones (34 ILB)

          • Richard Colton

            Mosley is the only top 40 ILB, right? I’ll add at least one name (maybe two) to Rob’s QB number, as well as 1 or 2 more OLBs. That way the total number stays the same.

  • Adam

    Doubt it happens due to him wanting to be paid as a starter and his age, but I’d take Red Bryant on our team in a heart beat. He’d be a great experienced player to play the 0, 3 and 5 tech along our d-line to spell Logan/Cox/Ced. We need to upgrade over Square and Geathers.

    • cliff henny

      yup. these are the guys Howie needs to be looking at. if he brings in another 4 guys with destroyed knees, i’m going to lose it. i get the scatter gun approach last year, but this year he needs to be a sniper.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        load the shotgun with slugs, not shells?

        • Adam

          Load the shotgun with smaller shotguns.

    • GEAGLE

      We won’t have interest in him. Improving our run defense is NOT a DL priority, because our coaches know that the run defense will improve just by our puppy DL being a year older, a year stronger, year more experienced two gapping…

      I’m expecting the DL addition to be an interior pass rusher to rotate with Curry and Cox on 3rd down, thus why I expect the eagles to sign Alex Carrington, 6’5 305lbs from the bills…his best football will be played during his next contract. those are the types of FA we will sign, guys like Carrington and Malcom Jenkins who are still young enough to grow with our team..

      Red Bryant will most likely go to the patriots who tried to sign him in 2012. pats are always in SUPERBOWL or bust mode, so they are more likely to add older players who may only be effective for another year or two…
      ..
      I like red a lot. I’d be hype to see us add him, I just don’t think we wll even consider him.

      • Ale (Brazil)

        Carrington is quite a situational player, which i think fits in what we should be looking at. we have 3 great, young DL players in Cox, Ced and Ben and we should be looking for compliments. Those three guys should get the bulk of the snaps in ’14. I like Geathers playing and it’s hard to find a 6’8, 340 guy to rotate. The coaches seem to like Square but like Chip says, is all about competition.

        I’m intrigued with what to expect from Curry and Graham this year. Could see Graham get traded, but Vinny is too good of a pass rusher for us to deal him. He is really good rushing the passer and we need to get him on the field every passing down.

        • GEAGLE

          Yeah I’m not willing to part with curry until I see him in year two. And you pretty much nailed it…our coaches WANT Logan,C of and Ced starting, so it’s foolish to talk about starting uree agent Dl like Linval Joseph or red Bryant..the DL we add will be someone who will add to the rotation.
          ..
          I also think most of our offseason defensive additions will be geared towards getting off the field on 3rd and 8. Carrington fits that Bill. Cheap addition who’s best football is still ahead of him…he was hurt last year, check out his 2012 pass rushing efficiency stats.

    • Khalid Washington

      Good plan but don’t think Red Bryant the Super Bowl winning NT is gonna spell anyone or accept the salary of someone who spells either.

  • anon

    Clowney is faster than Clinton Dix.

  • anon

    Pryor is 5’11 with a 34 inch vertical. I’m passing in the first unless he’s playing in the box. Lots of receivers are 6+ with a higher vert, he’s just getting thrown over IMO. Guy like Boykin is small but he’s jumping out of the gym.

    • RIP illa

      His broad jump was below average also.

    • GEAGLE

      Eddie Griffin was 6’10…never forget the last game of our junior season(basketball) we were playing Dematha who had two 7footers…we were sitting in church(catholic high schools have mass) and I asked Ed if he was worried about the 7footers…Ed used his fingers to show how much two inches were, he said if you can’t overcome petty little two inches, then you ain’t worth shit lol…

      5’11 is NOT 5’8…if he can’t defend a 6’2 WR, then he ain’t worth shit….just saying

      • Token

        Bad first 40 too.

        • GEAGLE

          I literally just got in front of a TV, I have no idea about any of today’s measurements

          • anon

            Pryor’s group on now — you can watch his second 40.

          • GEAGLE

            Who performed well so Far?

          • RIP illa

            Gilbert, Gaines, Dontae Johnson, Dennard, McGill. Can’t remember Roderson’s time and he hasn’t got to drills yet, but Purifoy was a disappointment.

          • GEAGLE

            Thank you sir…I see Joyner was kind of dissapointing…

          • RIP illa

            No prob. Oh yeah, that’s Gaines from Rice. Not EJ. Don’t know where the hell EJ has been today. But the Rice kid killed it in the 40 and Drills. Gonna check his other performances later on

          • GEAGLE

            Pissed that Ward isn’t running,…

            Pryor couldn’t crack 4.6 on either try….not good..

            Did Ed Reynolds measure in as a legit 6’2? What about Buchanon and Bailey? Did either run yet?

          • anon

            His official could literally end up 4.7

        • anon

          I’d take him if he falls.

          • Token

            In the 2nd round? Ok. No way in the 1st. Hes not a 1st round talent IMO.

      • anon

        2 inches plus 3-4 inches on the vert, plus .2 seconds in the 40.

      • Michael Deen

        You mean the same Eddie Griffin who crashed his car driving drunk while masturbating and watching porn? Also the same Eddie Griffin who died because he was driving drunk (3 times the legal limit) and crashed into a moving train? Definitely a dude dispensing amazing advice….

        • anon

          d*mn.

        • GEAGLE

          Please refrain from acting like a piece of shit towards a dear friend who passed Away…thank you

          • Michael Deen

            I am sorry you lost a dear friend, and truly feel for you. But coming from a guy who also lost two good friends to a driver with multiple DUI’s (who of course didn’t have a scratch on him) – I have a major issue with people who put others in harms way by doing something as stupid as getting “liquored up” and getting in their car/truck.

          • GEAGLE

            He committed suicide you dumb fuck! That was no drunk driving accident…don’t care what you been thru, no reason to speak poorly on a young man who passed away at 25…I lost my dad and Eddie the same exact day(both in Houston,,go figure)…Eddie was a really good kid ruined by his scmbag mother and brother jaques

          • Michael Deen

            Forget it man. It actually makes perfect sense that you two were close friends…

          • GEAGLE

            Says the piece of crap who feels the need to speak I’ll of the dead

    • Corey Dawson

      You don’t need to reach the ball, you need to reach their arms to disrupt the pass once it arrives. Good technique doing that is worth giving 3 inches up to. Much more to covering than being able to actually swat the pass.

  • RIP illa

    SJB running a 4.53u. That’s pretty damn good. Looked horrible running tho. Could prolly get in the upper 4.4s if he cleaned up his style.

    Joyner puts up the same time.

  • GEAGLE

    I’d give anything to have Johnny football fall to us,,no I’m not joking! I hate that bitch ass lil stink bug Manziel! but I’d draft him in a heartbeat! sit his ass on the bench! I wouldn’t even play him in the preseason. Don’t let anyone see his flaws, and just hold him til some QB desperate team offers us a kings ransom for manziel

    • RIP illa

      Well your boy McGill just stole the show!!! 6’3 3/8, might as well say 6’4. 211 and just posted a 4.47u. Damn that’s good. If only he showed me more on his breakdowns. I literally had to stop watching in disgust on one of them.

      Mitchell is slow…4.6

      • GEAGLE

        Wow….and wow!!! Thanks for the intel…hopefully he can be like Earl Wolff, bad college tape that can be coached up

        Mitchell couldn’t crack 4.6 in two tries….not good

      • anon

        Jean Baptiste looks good too.

        • RIP illa

          Yeah man. I love me some SJB. How the hell can you be 6’3 and then have a 41in Vert??? It’s just unfair.

          • anon

            If he can catch he can play CB and play red zone.

  • anon

    Pryor ran 4.62u

    • Token

      Just keeps checking the boxes on my list of reasons I dont want him. Probably will be closer to 4.70 officially.

      • anon

        Honestly, think it might be o-line in rd 1 the way this is looking. Just take a guy later with athleticism and coach him.

        • Token

          Thats yet another nightmare scenario. Trade back if Oline is even on their minds.

        • Corey Dawson

          O-line is one of the most sure fire sets of positions to take high, has one of the lowest bust rates. I’m all for it any time its not a reach.

          • Token

            While also being one of the lowest impact position on the team.

    • Token

      2nd 40 was a 4.60

      So hes a 4.6 – 4.70 guy. Old school box safety that goes for shoulder throwing big hits and isnt comfortable in single high. Wouldnt surprise me if hes a 2nd round pick.

      I wouldnt take either guy in the 1st round. But HaHa is clearly more comfortable in coverage. Has better range. Appears to be a better overall athlete.

      The Eagles would probably do well to just skip these high round safeties this year.

  • Jimmie

    1st we find out that he not 6’2”as listed but actually 5’11” Then he comes out and runs a 4.62 unofficial

    Ha Ha clearly had a better day. Pryor’s stock is falling fast.

    Looks like we might be stuck at 22. Mack and Barr should be gone, Ha Ha gone, Gilbert gone, Evans gone. Damn

    • Token

      Hopefully Evans or Barr gets pushed down because of QB and OL picks early. Every year players fall right to the range we are in. Someone will be there.

    • GEAGLE

      Relax…even if they are all drafted before us, plenty of studs to be had from 22 thru round 5

      • Jimmie

        It’s not that, I was just trying to avoid taking a WR in round one because there is so much value later. I just don’t see in good value guys in our area besides WR unless one of the guys i mentioned falls.

        • GEAGLE

          You would be mad to see us add a Randall Colb who would be the best return man we had in years? Well that’s Oddell Beckam JR…if we can get our hands on Marcus smith we will forget all about Barr and Mack

          • Andy124

            Anthony Barr: Never Forget.

          • Jimmie

            I’m sorry I don’t want a return guy at 22, and that’s about all OBJ will be his first couple years. And i hope you’re joking about Marcus Smith.

          • GEAGLE

            Ok, that’s my Que that tells me, I have no business chatting with you lol
            ..
            OBJ is one of the most polished NFL WR in this draft…wtf you know about Marcus smith? Lol hurry up and google

          • Token

            So you think hes a starting outside WR? Comparing him to Cobb I dont think you do. You can find slot toys a little later. Kick returners much later. I dont see him as what this team needs across from Jackson.

          • RIP illa

            I think he has to prove he can be just as effective on the outside as on the inside. However I still think he can do it. The kid is, like Geagle said, polished. He has speed, toughness, and a ridiculous set of hands. Plus he wouldn’t have to start on the outside for about 2-3 years. So yeah I see him as the “future” if we add him to our Receiving corp!!!

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t think, slot toy exsist in the Eagles offense,..I expect all our WR to play outside and in…best hands in college, great speed and toughness a hair short or 6ft…why can’t he play on the outside…OBJ will be a first round pick, whether we take him at 22 or not

          • GEAGLE

            If he don’t compare to Cobb who do you view him as?

          • Token

            Didnt say that. Your Cobb comparison could be pretty good. But Cobb isnt a outside starter.

          • Jimmie

            I know about both. There is at least 5 OLBs that will get drafted before Marcus Smith lol He will not be drafted in the first round unless somebody reaches. & OBJ would not start over Jackson or Maclin/Cooper

          • GEAGLE

            There will be 5 OLBs drafted before Marcus…that far from Guarentees that there will be 5 better OLBs that come out of this draft…if a good defense takes Marcus, he will be great

          • Jimmie

            Sure that could be true but my main argument if you go back and look is about value. Marcus Smith COULD be the best olb in the draft but why draft him in the first round when you can easily get him in the second.

            My point was that before the combine it looked as if a sure fire starter would fall to us, that can still happen obviously but it’s not looking as good.

          • GEAGLE

            If Marcus falls to 54 I agree with you. If ehpe gets drafted 44, then we blew a serious opportunity to get our dream ROLB of the future….and if you reach on a player, and he turns into a stud, then you go from looking stupid to brilliant

          • Eagles4Life

            OBJ would take a starting spot sooner rather than later. The kid has all the tools.

          • Token

            Nah. If it means trading back into the 2nd round for a guy like that ok. But I dont want just a low impact non starter in the first round. This team isnt near the level where they can just take a guy like that. They need more full time difference makers. They have very very few of those.

          • Jimmie

            my thoughts exactly

    • Tom W

      Didn’t like what I saw from Pryor on tape … always looking for big hit and missing alot of tackles … centerfield deep zone no man coverage. too bad he ran so poorly and came in at 5 11.

      Wouldn’t be suprised if Buchanon hops ahead of him at 6 2 and running so well.

    • oreofestar

      I would take Pryor if he s there at 22 no point taking Benjamin there when we can pick up Matthews or Robinson in the 2nd

      • GEAGLE

        I think Jordan Mathews falling to 54 is seriously misguided….before the combine I would have agreed tho

        • anon

          Pryor doesn’t look good in the drills either — lots of pressure on his pro day.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah he don’t look good at all

        • TOm W

          Moncrief really showed me something as well. Gotta keep Devontae Adams on the radar as well. Wish people would stop with PSU Robinson love or naturally inclination to overate ND players like mayock.

          • GEAGLE

            I been high on Mathews and Moncrief all year! but both out performed my combine expectations of them.

            Devante Adams I love, even if he didn’t have the best combine.rather take devante then Lee.devante could be a real round 2 target. I hope Mocrief is on the board in round 4, but getting out of round 3 could prove to be wishful thinking…Devante was a serious talent! who with a good combine could have went top 25, I’m happy he had a bad combine

          • JofreyRice

            wow, you don’t like Robinson? I think he’s a fantastic receiver. Nice hands in contested situations, uses his body well, good balance, good with the ball in his hands after the catch. I could give a damn about his 40, and I’m not PSU alum.

            That’s not taking anything away from Moncrief, he’s a player as well. It’s hard to go wrong with the talent at receiver in this class.

    • JofreyRice

      If Pryor had come out last year, I think he and DJ Swearinger would be a toss up for a lot of teams. And I like Swearinger–wanted the Eagles to grab him–but he wasn’t a first rounder last year, and he wouldn’t be this year, either.

      • GEAGLE

        Spot on,,,I say this all the time. Pryor best compares to a Swearinger type prospect, who in a normal year would be a second round pick…but I don’t think Haha is a true first rounder either…hoping Dallas reaches for one instead of taking Aaron Donald who scares me

        • Token

          I hope for neither in the first round. But HaHa clearly looks like the better prospect. Better athlete. Better in coverage.

          HaHa is more comfortable in run support than Pryor is in the pass game.

          • GEAGLE

            I prefer staying away from players that will be over drafted due to lack of competition at their position. I know haha will go round 1, but I wouldn’t want him before #40…don’t see either as significantly better then what we could get in round 2…crappy free agent safety class, crappy safety draft class….#depressing!!
            ..
            Anyone know how Reynolds measured and performed?

          • RIP illa

            Crappy

  • KobraKai7474

    In case anybody needed an answer to question why Riley Cooper isn’t so highly sought after (besides the Kenny Chesney concert thing), it is really this simple: Jadeveon Clowney…. a defensive lineman… runs the 40 almost a tenth of a second faster than him. When your offense requires WRs who can stretch the field and your No. 2 WR can’t outrun a defensive lineman in a straight ahead race…. well…. it is time to consider other options (or existing options that are coming off knee surgery).

    • Token

      Pretty moronic statement.

      • anon

        Yeah that’s not fair — clowney, athletically, is the best ever probably.

        • Token

          Yea. Plus the 40 is rarely ever THE indicator of a good WR.

          There was a stat they threw out on the combine the other day about how well the WRs with the top 40s in the combine did in the NFL. Dont quite remember the stat, but it wasnt great.

          • anon

            Mike Wallace being the only guy under 4.4 (maybe 4.3?). to have a 1,000 yd season.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            did DJax run worse than a 4.4?

          • RIP illa

            No but the stat’s timeframe had him beyond the cuttoff.

          • Token

            Yea it was something like that.

        • Andy124

          I’m going with Reggie White there. And I will go full homer and deny any numbers that say otherwise.

          • Richard Colton

            Reggie is on Mt. Olympus Andy, but I’m not sure he would have looked great at the Combine. He never worked out in the Gym. Never lifted a weight. Ever. Just naturally one of the strongest football players of all time.

            100% sure his bull rush would have knocked out an actual bull.

          • peteike

            Reggie would not have welcomed Michael Sam with open arms, haha

          • Richard Colton

            Going to disagree. Reggie was very religious. He was also thoughtful and respectful. We also have to remember the 80′s were a different time.

          • Maggie

            Don’t know about the open arms, but agree with respectful of others’ choices. There’s more than one different trait to be found in the locker room which he probably didn’t like, but chose to ignore.

          • Richard Colton

            Exactly Maggie.

          • jay ray

            “Reggie was very religious.”

            Peteike rests his case.

          • Richard Colton

            You guys seriously going to come on this board and rip Reggie White? I may not agree with everything Reggie said, but he respected everyone. Suggesting that he wouldn’t because he’s religious is off the mark – and out of line.

          • jay ray

            No. How can one possibly rip the g.o.a.t?

            But we all know what he said in re: to homosexuality, and nothing can change that. And pointing to his religion as an out is quite laughable. You know exactly why.

          • Andy124

            Reggie wouldn’t have to run the 40. He’d stand there while the finish line sprinted to him.

            Reggie would still be doing reps of 225, wondering when it was supposed to get hard.

          • RIP illa

            Would Reggie be related to Bill Brasky by any chance?

            http://www.veoh.com/watch/v16999067EdNYzmw8?h1=Bill+Brasky-Stock+Broker

    • RIP illa

      Dude, I love me some speed, but Coop moves real well for his size. That’s just some BS your spouting. The only thing hurting Coop w/ other teams right now, is the depth of this WR class.

    • Tom W

      Pretty horrible argument … ask Jerry Rice what he ran in the 40.

      • OregonDucker

        Yeah, Rice ran a 4.71 and was deemed too slow. Problem was he caught the ball in tight coverage and had great RAC. Walsh saw this and told his guys that he had to have Rice. There is more to WR than run stats.

    • Maggie

      What did the other D linemen run?

  • Tom W

    Noticed the eagles have spoken w McGill and Dontae Johnson .. too very tall and big corner/safety hybrids …. Both ran very well today .. wouldn’t be suprised if McGill pushed himself into the 3d round. Johnson can be had later in the 5th. Like them both alot. Could definitely see Chip playing both these guys at safety for us or as corner hybrids in nickel or dime.

    Pierre Desir is another long corner who played lights out at the Ew shrine game and senior bowl coming from a small school bc of his family situation but was recruited by div 1 schools. would definitely like him in the 4th. ran well too.

    Breeland disappointed. Pryor lol. Buchanon ran real well …with his size I dont see anyway he lasts to our third round pick. ugh. need more picks in the second and third. Bailey didnt run well …could slip to us in the 4th round. Don’t see anyway we draft any corner or safety in first 5 rounds under 5 11.

    • JofreyRice

      McGill’s a developmental guy, IMO. Says he’s still not comfortable playing the position yet. I haven’t watched Dontae Johnson, but I have seen UAB’s Jimmy Jean. He can move. Basketball player turned corner at 6’3. I’d take both those guys late, but I wouldn’t want either before the 5th, some serious work to do to turn them into NFL db’s.

      The only thing is, it’s not going to be much use to have long tall corners if the Safeties still suck. Davis won’t press if he doesn’t trust the safeties, because he’s willing to be killed slowly over giving up the big play.

      • GEAGLE

        Every CB these days is a developmental guy….how many CB would you really feel comfortable starting in September? You can hate Cary and Brad but I doubt a rookie plays better then them..because we have them as stop gaps, I wouldn’t mind a developmental type with tremendous upside, but after round two…

        • JofreyRice

          I like Kyle Fuller a lot. I think he’s better than these other guys. Dennard, Gilbert, whatever.

          There are developmental guys and there are developmental guys. I think Jean or McGill are going to take a lot of polishing.

          • GEAGLE

            Really really high on Fuller. Nice call

  • Tom W

    Dee Ford and Atta-Boy not running or anything at the combine really screws things up for forecasting our free agent moves let alone draft. assuming you have mack and barr at the top 2 olbs … next tier is ford, atta-boy, marcus smith, murphy maybe .. kvn and christian jones is a separate category.

    crawford is too short hubbard is a bum. tripp looked like a safety. ronnie powell came in real light. breslin is too short. aaron lynch maybe in the 6th round like krueger if he gets his head right. sam looked horrible. chris smith is too short. demarcus didn’t look athletic enough to drop and didnt’ move me on tape. Reilly isn’t athletic enough.

    Would be easier to know if Ford runs well and performs well if we could have him in the second … or if atta-boy will be around at 54 w Marcus. damn injuries.

    • GEAGLE

      If we take Dee ford at 22 I’m going to be pissed

      • Richard Colton

        if he turns into an edge terror who (at least) is a threat to drop into coverage, we’ll be OK.

        • GEAGLE

          Doubt he is better then Marcus, but yeah I’ll take a plYer that works out at any position and be happy
          ..
          Whoa Gilbert measured shorter then 6’1?

      • Tom W

        If he runs like von miller at this pro day you will change your tune. He is probably a tad little for Chip, but his pass rush game jumps out on tape and he dominated the senior bowl.
        To just dislike x player because you like y player isn’t a great way to evaluate. I understand your newly found affection for marcus smith, who i also like at 54 or the third if he drops, but if ford calls ballz out at his pro day he will need to be considered at 22. preferably we trade down but I doubt he gets past the saints, etc.
        Not touting ford but he needs to be on the radar at 22 if he lights up his proday.

        • GEAGLE

          Dude ford been on my radar long before everyone jumped on his nuts..I don’t hate him at all. I just prefer two OLBs ahead of him…if Marcus can really be had at 54, how can I be thrilled about Ford at 22?

      • Token

        Until we draft him, then you will proclaim him a pro bowler.

        • GEAGLE

          Cute
          ..
          I don’t hate Dee, I was talking about him way before the senior bowl when everyone jumped on his nuts, I just would rather have Marcus:
          1) Barr
          2) Marcus
          3) Ford
          4) Attaboy
          Would be my wish list ranking…
          KVN I want in addition to one of those names

      • JofreyRice

        I guess the production is suspect, in terms of year-to-year, but the guy has shown every competitive trait you want to see from a player since the season ended. He’s super quick and very flexible, and has an awesome feel for timing the snap count. Top 10? Probably not, but at #22? Yeah, I’d be cool with that.

        • Joe L

          Not worried about the disc issue in his back?

          • JofreyRice

            No, I just don’t know anything about it. Of course if the team doctors didn’t like his medical, they’d probably remove him from the board. He says it’s fine, and the reports are the docs are just being really cautious. I’d imagine they would be with this stuff–these are young men that could wreck a multimillion dollar career if the Docs OK them and they hurt themselves. I think they took a similar stance on Star Lotulelei last year–except it concerned his heart.

          • Token

            Herniated disc in 2011. Kinda weird to just here about it now. But guess they are overcautious sometimes. He said he will do it all at his pro day which is next week I believe.

          • Maggie

            Wasn’t Romo’s problem at the end of the year also a herniated disc? Very painful, but with the surgery he is expected to be fine by September last I heard. If Ford’s disc was 3 years ago, with no reoccurrence, it would seem to be fine as well.

    • JofreyRice

      It’s looking less like we’re going to get the immediate impact LB we’re all wanting. I’m thinking we go with a developmental guy to play behind Cole for a season (or even two), and probably invest in some bummy free agent as injury insurance like Mike Neal or Rob Jackson.

      I was intrigued by the way small schooler Howard Jones move around. He’d have to be a rush linebacker, but I think he looked more fluid than what Nawrocki gives him credit for in the writeup he did for him at NFL (dot) com. Tested out of his mind. Only 6’2, but he’s got super long arms. He’s like Tyler Starr–a guy I’d like to see them take a shot on and try to develop. Gotta move Graham for a 5th, he’s doing nothing for us–he’s got no future here.

      • GEAGLE

        If you don’t wanna keep BG, I’d rather just cut him now, and go be players in free agency. I guess you can be players in free agency and then dump Graham for whatever the best offer is on draft night

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          why would you cut a player who possibly still has trade value?

          • GEAGLE

            Lol what trade value does a player who’s contract expires at the end of the year have? This ain’t the NBA where expiring contracts are sexy….bills couldn’t get value for friggin jarius Byrd this year…what are you expecting BG to fetch?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            who would think we’d get a 6th for Soap? Why not the same at least for a former 1st rd player who is still young, cheap for a year, and possibly a good rush DE for a 43?

          • GEAGLE

            Soap was a Midseason desperation trade after 8 patriots NT got injured…I don’t know what happens to BG. Not one of those situations that are easy to read…so your guess is as good as mine, I just see a lot of people talk about him as some valuable trade Chip, and I think it’s misguided…tho I would be THRILLED. To be wrong

          • cliff henny

            got ~15 spots in draft. eagles sent 6th with soap for a 5th. mean if someone wanted graham and a 7th for a 5th, i’d do that in a heartbeat.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            yes, but that was a 30yr old bum NT still getting paid more than BG, or close to it. He has to be worth a 6th or 7th on his own, maybe an additional pick next year based on play time? either way, still worth it IMO

          • cliff henny

            eagles paid about 2.5m of his salary, think NE was on hook for 700k. i’d pretty much do any trade for graham, or bury him on roster and wait till he’s cost effective to cut next yr.

          • GEAGLE

            BG contract expires at the end of the year..we wouldn’t need to cut him

          • cliff henny

            BG is almost 6 one way, half a dozen another. can june 1st him and clear 1.7m or just bury him in back end as insurance. i dont want him standing in the way of anyone. he’s gone after this season. just way i’d go, but trade and get pick would be best, but who really knows his value. personally, i dont think he has alot. why would some team pay a pick and 3.4m salary for a guy who doesnt have much more proven production then cheaper guys out there.

          • GEAGLE

            Am I crazy or does his contract expire at the end of the year? Seen multiple people talk about him as having more then a year left on his deal. Didn’t we draft him the Nate year? Nate was round 2, so he expires now, Graham was round 1 so he has an extra year….does he expire at the end of the year or am I mistaken?
            ..
            If he is under contract for two more years it changes everything, and we may actually get trade value for him

          • anon

            BG doesn’t have a lot of great tape and the draft is pretty deep. In addition to the trade you have to pay him like a 1st rounder for what is not first round talent and then what — he’s gone maybe after next year…be way better if he had a big 2012.

          • Andy124

            With BG, remember it only takes one. I’m repeating myself from a while ago, but so be it.

            BG was universally considered a 1st round talent when he came out. Plenty of the GMs in power now would have been high on him going in to that draft. They see he’s woefully miscast here and they’ve seen some flashes here. It’s not hard to imagine one or more of them getting big eyes thinking how smart they’re going to look stealing a 1st round talent for a 5th round pick. 4th round if they sense enough interest from other GMs. His expiring contract is a bonus to them. They could extend right away at a bargain price, or they could wait and see how he does in their system. If he struggles, he cost them nothing but a late round draft pick. They have pretty much all the leverage going in to the season though to decide how they want to play it.

            I’m not saying this is a given, but I think it’s a very realistic scenario and we shouldn’t be overly pessimistic of getting some value in return for Graham.

          • JofreyRice

            I think a 5th or 6th. There is some proof he can play DE in a 4-3. With the depth of this draft, athletic talents available, and the positive early returns concerning the quality of our coaching staff (improvements from players almost across the board), I think a 5th or 6th on a developmental project could be valuable.

          • GEAGLE

            I’d love a 5th!! Love it!! Just worry about teams not wanting to give up picks for a player who they could lose at the end of next season. Would you be happy to see the Eagles trade a 5th for a one year rental? I worry that it’s hard to get value for a guy unless a team is already sold enough on him to extend him…
            ….
            I’m sure I would prefer a 5th, over just cutting a guy..
            ..
            But for example, I love Jabaal Sheard since he was at Pitt, wanted to trade for him a last year as soon as the drafted Mingo, we could have had him for a year and a half before deciding if we wanted to extend him…now, I’m skeptical about Giving up a 5th for him because his contract expires at the end of the year…

            Sure hope we can get something for BG

      • TOm W

        Never really thought any of these olbs were going to come in and start … other than maybe mack (and clowney),,,, they all need to add weight to play well against the run and set the edge and hone some pr moves.
        Cole and Barwin are the starters no matter what, the edge guy will hopefully provide 20-30 snaps on passing downs or nickel coverage. first or second rounder olb will do that. let them rush the qb and work w huls and put on 15 lbs of muscle and be ready to start the following year.

        • JofreyRice

          I know everyone is talking about how raw Barr is now, but I think you can run him out there week one. Guy has 41 tackles for loss in the past 2 years, in the second best conference in the nation.

          You may sacrifice some of the interchangeablity of the OLBs, and have more rush/drop roles, but Barwin’s a poor passrusher anyway. If not for batted passes, he’d be absolutely one of the worst passrushing OLBs in the league. It’s hard for me to believe that Barr would be worse dropping than Cole was.

          • Token

            Id have no problem with that. I hate the narrative of sitting guys for a year. I dont think thats as much the case anymore. Rookies can make a impact if you are finding good ones. It would be hard for a rookie bring less than Cole brought for the majority of last season.

          • cliff henny

            eagles play 4 down in nickel, 3-3-5 and 3-4, think there’s plenty of snaps, especially since they played basically 2 extra games of snaps, to work in a rookie, heck, or 2. ryans cant play 15,000 snaps again this yr

          • GEAGLE

            Barr is ready to drop into coverage in September, the problem is him being ready to set the edge in the run game. I love the kid, and he is as talented as we could ever hope to find, but I would hate to pencil him in as a 3down OLB as a rookie..by 2015, he should be ready to take over…but I damn sure wouldn’t want to see Cole playing ahead of him in pass rushing situations
            ..
            Hard to find more talent and potential then Barr, so unless you can get ATleast an extra 2nd and 3rd trading out of round 1, I literally don’t see how we can pick anyone else at 22 if Barr is still on the board..

            I like Barr and Marcus more then Ford because I think they can be as good of pass rushers in 3 years, while also providing the disguise of not knowing if they are rushing or dropping into coverage

          • cliff henny

            every team besides Eagles subs, so why cant Eagles have cole and Barwin be in base, draft Barr and C jones and bring them in to play nickel/passrush or whatever. was so many snaps, Barwin and ryans cant play 1150, or whatever they played, like last year. Davis wants to rotate so much, take 300 plays away from cole, barwin and ryans and split it between 2 rookies.

          • JofreyRice

            If we somehow got Barr I’d have an eye on making him the starting ROLB sooner than later, and putting Cole in a passrush package role. I know he was saying he felt better than ever, but historically, he’s flagged down the stretch.

          • GEAGLE

            See I would want the opposite. Cole on the field 1st down, maybe second down, but NEVER on the field in Nickle. I think we can use Barr pass rush as an upgrade to Cole IMMEDIATELY, but needs some time to overtake Cole as a run defender..

          • cliff henny

            no issue there, just saying eagles rotate so much, starter/specialty might be all mixed up. it’s the who and when, not if eagles are drafting OLB. i’m not worried about him getting snaps, i’m worried about getting another ilb that can cover and can limit cole’s and ryans’ snaps. get 2 new young beasts flying around, and get 2 older guys off field so they can be fresher. win-win.
            .
            was surprised, defense went the exact opposite of what i thought would be issues. i figured if teams kept eagles in base, they’d really struggle, and specialty packages would be strength. 1st and 2nd wasnt issue, so not really worried about changing that up, 3rd down is where we need changes

          • anon

            Think barr and barwin would be trading snaps. Don’t know if he’s strong enough to anchor against
            the run.

          • Token

            Barwin is a better run defender than Cole. So youd still have Cole be the one coming off.

            I think youd start Barr. You want to ease Cole out rather than ease Barr in if you get what I mean. So Cole should be the one playing limited snaps.

            But I think theres a low chance we end up with Barr anyway.

      • GEAGLE

        Who do you perceive as this immediate impact OLB prospect? Hope you aren’t thinking Barr is ready to be a 3down OLB…Mack ok but who else? ford won’t be ready to play the run as a rookie…these instant 3down OLBs are very rare.. You usually are stuck drafting:
        1) OLB who needs to add weight his rookie year. Or
        2) DE you have to transition to OLB

        That’s why although we would all love to get out of the Cole contract now, he is valuable to us this year, since it looks like we have to draft our OLB as opposed to signing a Vet

        • anon

          OLB is surprising a really hard position to get — see advantage of being a 4-3.

      • Token

        So thats a scenario where we have Cole starting maybe two more years at OLB. While still not having a safety. Geez thats depressing. No Superbowl there.

        The media is getting hyped up about the potential of bum guys like Jenkins as a FA. Jenkins blows. Had a good safety next to him and a good corner. Still wasnt good.

        • GEAGLE

          We just need our rookie to provide more pass rush then Cole, Trent is as good as it gets against the run….I’d be happy to see us cut Cole tomorrow, but ATleast he isn’t a complete waste of space…

          What’s interesting is what happens to Cole after this year? Normally an older guy like him could still have a role as a situational pass rusher, but Cole strength is the run game, and I can’t recall too many teams employeeing a situational run defender on the edge

          • Token

            I think we see Cole take yet another step down this season. I really hope thats not their plan A.

    • Joe L

      I’m not worried about Chris Smith’s height. He’s got the same arm length as 6’6 Ra’Shede Hageman.

  • GEAGLE

    wtf Pryor looks like dog crap..wtf is wrong with him today? You could tell he was thinking too much, nervous during his second 40 attempt(didn’t see the first one) just by bat a big deal he was making about the footing….but he is NOT moving well in these drills….

    • Token

      He looks like he does on tape.

      • GEAGLE

        We can agree to disagree…can anyone tell me what Buchanon and Baily did?

  • Bird of Prey

    “Bucky Brooks of NFL.com offers a new name for the Eagles at No. 22: Oregon State WR Brandin Cooks:

    Coach Chip Kelly’s explosive offense is built around
    speedy playmakers on the outside. Cooks is a big play artist with the
    speed and quickness to excel as a vertical threat or “catch and run”
    specialist.”

    UMMMM, I think we already a few one of these…How about the possibility of keeping Cooper or Maclin? Where do these pundits get these ideas from? (watch us draft him after I write this…)

    I like the insight on Banner and Ried, no wonder we got the picks and defensive coordinator we did…

    I like what they are doing so far, hopefully they’ll still be successful at it.

    • cliff henny

      Cooks is really good inside, pretty close to steve smith carolina clone as i’ve seen in awhile. could do alot worse. ODB or him after evans/sammy, if Barr isnt there. good thing about kelly’s offense is we just need to get him talent, he’ll get them in right position.

      • GEAGLE

        let’s try to find best pro comparison (upside) for WR prospects. So far I got:
        OBJ as Randall Cobb
        Evans as V-Jax
        Jarvis Landry as Hines Ward
        Cooks as Steve smith
        Ebron as I guess Vernon Davis who I know had a better combine
        Lee as Maclin although Lee was slower then expected.


        Who else?

    • OregonDucker

      Cooks goes for the ball which was frequently at OSU. Foles will have fun with Cooks, like he did with Coop. This guy plays tough, has great RAC, and will win games for the Eagles, if we can get him – which I doubt.

  • GEAGLE

    Buchanon ran a 4.5… Really gotta find a way to get the kid..faster then dix

  • GEAGLE

    When does BG’s contract expire? I thought it was expiring after this year but I see people talking about him in 2015…now I’m confused

    • knighn

      Replied above / below (depending on your orientation).
      http://www.eaglescap.com/Players/BrandonGraham.html
      - He’s signed through 2015.

      • GEAGLE

        Thank you,,,,awesome news for me

    • cliff henny

      eagles can buy him out after this yr.

      • GEAGLE

        I was convinced this was his contract year…if he is under contract for two more seasons, with 2015 being a year you can void the contract, then that bodes much better for us trying to trade him. I thought we took him the year we took Nate, and that first round picks had one more year then second rounders…

        This is excellent news for me, because this makes him much easier to trade then if he were approaching his contract year

        • cliff henny

          yup, knighn gave link, calling ’15 voidable year. not sure what the difference is between voided and cutting, maybe it’s easier on dead money if there’s still guarenteed money in ’15. the part that bothers me most, he has escalator of 4.1m in ’14. so if he plays alot, it’s really a 7.5m contract. so trading team is going to really have to like BG. can get alot better player under much better contract.

  • GEAGLE

    Fuller ran 4.40 hello round 1

  • theedevilsadvocate

    i still say this guy manziel should learn how to boot footballs he looks like he has the makings of a great nfl kicker…

  • GEAGLE

    When did Al Harris become an assistant secondary coach for KC?

  • GEAGLE

    Gilbert shitted on Dennard today.
    I’d take
    Gilbert
    I guess Roby
    Fuller
    Before I would want to see the eagles take Dennard or Verrett

    But Gilbert is the only corner I would want at 22

  • myeaglescantwin

    Franchise tag on Donnie Jones??

    • anon

      That seems silly. No one likes playing under it and he played super well this year — i’d lock it up for like 2-3 years — though sometimes you get paid more under the tag than you do a negotiated deal.

  • anon

    The Eagles are expected to try and trade Bryce Brown this offseason
    after he proved to be a poor fit in coach Chip Kelly’s offense. — ROTO

    NO!!!! Oh well. They say Polk is going to be featured more.

    • cliff henny

      great, more picks! between fumbles and tripping over the lines, polk and late/udfa can man backups. wash found morris in 6th, these guys exist. isaiah crowell out of gergia, or thrown out, is late guy. god knows what he did to get tossed from GA, but he was a beast

      • anon

        I’m actually really surprised they never tried him on returns. Maybe he can’t catch super well.

      • NickS1

        Chip’s just clearing space for DAT or Dri Archer.

        • cliff henny

          maybe. turn brown into Dri, seems like decent upgrade to me.

  • Eagles4Life

    I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say this isn’t a bad thing. If we can have Jenkins be at least somewhat serviceable in a run defense that wasn’t bad on 1st and 2nd, and then deal with 3rd downs, which would seem to be more of a strength, I’d say it isn’t a bad shake. If you think about it, Davis was either blitzing or dropping like 8, and in those situations if you can (somewhat) depend on your safety to come up and take away a hot read, you’re helping out this defense a lot.

  • NickS1

    This Victor Hampton kid looked good today.

  • Chris Jones

    Lately I’m convinced the eagles should go justin Gilbert first round, grab a safety in the second. Gilbert looks too good to pass up and would be a good replacement for a guy like Bradley but if Pryor or Clinton Dix are still there you have to pull the trigger on them.

    • RIP illa

      Too late. After today, Gilbert is most likely gone before 22.