What They’re Saying About the Eagles

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Here is a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles this week.

Gregg Rosenthal of NFL.com thinks DeMeco Ryans could be a surprise cut:

His reputation and salary far exceed his play on the field (especially on passing downs). Do the Eagles want to pay $6.9 million for leadership?

Brent Celek talks to the Wall Street Journal about his offseason workout and nutrition routines:

He has a shake a day at home. He’ll often combine spinach, carrots, broccoli, frozen berries, orange juice and almond butter. Lunch is chicken and some greens in a wrap.




Mr. Celek enjoys cooking dinner. "I mix it up and prepare steak, fish, or chicken," he says. "In the winter, I use the crock pot a lot because I can let things sit in there for nine hours and when I come back it's turned into something amazing."

Dane Brugler of CBSSports.com mocks Alabama safety Haha Clinton-Dix to the Eagles:

Chip Kelly wants to get faster and tougher on defense and adding an impact safety would help. Clinton-Dix is a rangy player with a good feel for coverage and filling run lanes.

Pat Kirwan of CBSSports.com goes with Louisville safety Calvin Pryor:

Pryor would be a Day 1 starter at a position of need. A pass rusher like Dee Ford could get strong consideration as well.

Ashley Fox of ESPN.com thinks Riley Cooper's best option is to stay put:

Kelly found a way to maximize Cooper's ability. He lauded the 6-foot-3, 214-pound Cooper for his ability to block and gain yards after the catch. Cooper rewarded Kelly by averaging 17.8 yards per catch.

Even if the Eagles bring back Maclin, who like Cooper will become a free agent next month, Kelly could find a role for Cooper in his offense. He typically utilizes three and four wide receiver sets, and Cooper would be an upgrade over slot receiver Jason Avant, who is a steady team leader but caught only 19 of 41 passes thrown his way last season.

Matt Smith of NFL.com thinks Michigan State CB Darqueze Dennard could be a fit for the Eagles at No. 22:

They need help in the secondary, and Dennard might be the top corner remaining on their board. To get a need and a talent this late in the first round is a big win for the Eagles.

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  • NickS1

    Cutting Demeco certainly would be a surprise…

    • G_WallyHunter

      Ya big time lol I never listen to Gregg, he’s gotta be one of the funniest “writers” over there. Could maybe see him take a pay cut but cut all together? Come on, that would send quite the rift across the locker room, can’t see it happening at all

    • cheapmeat

      Something Banner would do because he only sees the money. Next year maybe, but not this year.

    • GEAGLE

      Not a chance,,,,just silly. He is safe for ATleast one more year, probably two(while his role decreases)

    • Oli Richford

      I agree – a massive surprise. With a better pass rush and the defence getting off the field more next season, Ryans’ stats will look a lot healthier.

      • Token

        Not really. His chase down tackles would be cut down. His coverage will never be great. Its just a situation where a guy isnt quite as good as people want him to be. Hes likable. We all want him to be a amazing player. But he will be replaced either this offseason or next.

        Right now hes earning too much money.

        • GEAGLE

          He will still be an Eagle in 2015

          • Token

            Almost impossible. Unless they cut him and resign him for 2 million to be a backup.

          • GEAGLE

            If Meco isn’t an Eagle in 2015, it will mean we didn’t build on last years success and we don’t plan on competing for a SB in 2015…If this team nose dives this year, Meco won’t be here in 2015…if we are legit SB contenders, we won’t be cutting our leader, especially since players probably have to deal with Cole being cut next year. I won’t debate the price tag, it probably will be cheaper, but I will seriously be shocked if he isn’t here in 2015

      • GEAGLE

        His stats are up…we were a top run defense from November to January. Our DL two gaps, so who do we think was responsible for shutting down 8 of the 9(saints) run games that we faced? career year in sacks and INTs, in his first year playing a scheme all the dopes who talk about cutting him said that he could never play..as in, better sacks and INT totals then when he was named to pro bowls…

        He is still a solid Blitzer. Not great, so you want to add a young backup who can spell him, but If you were to ask our coaches, I think they Genuinly thought Meco had a big year for us..stats don’t tell the story

    • Token

      They need a new ILB. If they are standing behind Kendricks then the spot up for grabs is Ryans. Dont know if they will be able to fill it this offseason but im sure they want to.

      • GEAGLE

        They need a new ILB to ADD to Meco/Kendricks, not replace them…only having two ILBs is the problem..no matter who starts, we need other defenders we can throw out there in sub packages. Meco’s role will start to gradually diminish, but he has two more years of Eagles service in him. Last year we had starters, and a bunch of backups we were scared to death of putting on the field..we need like 16-18 defenders that we actually want to play

        • Token

          They need a new starter. Someone cabaple of being a rock in the middle and stand up some RBs in the hole. Neither guy we have now is really that player. Ryans will never be here for two years at 6.8 million a year. He would have to take a massive pay cut.

          • GEAGLE

            How did we have a top run defense last year for the last 8 weeks of the regular season? Everyone tells me:
            Logan isn’t big enough, we need a NT
            Kemdricks isn’t good enough
            Meco needs to be replaced..
            Cole needs to be replaced
            ,,,
            So who exactly was responsible for our defense shutting down 8 running games in a row? It damn sure wasn’t our safeties….our DL two gaps, so how did we boast a top run defense for two months?
            .,
            Is Barwin the second coming of Dick Butkus? Is Billy Davis the greatest DC in the history of football? That he built a top run defense with a bunch of guys that need to be replaced in their first year playing this scheme? Who is responsible for the stout run defense we watched for two months?

          • Token

            I could have swore the Saints ran all over us.

            Then you go and look at who we played and under what circumstances. You cant just always look at stats in a vacuum to tell the whole story all the time. Kind of like how you look at combine numbers as a indicator of a players ability to play football.

            -Raiders Jennings crushed us on the ground. Plus Pryor had 100 yards

            Played GB without a QB.

            Washingtons Morris goes for 100

            Cards Rashard freaking Mendenhall almost has 100

            Detroit blizzard game and not a running team. No Bush

            Vikings no Peterson, didnt need him anyway

            Bears wasnt even a game. Think they ran under 10 times

            Dallas, well they shut down Murray. Awesome.

            Saints….ran at will. It was their gameplan. They saw a weakness and exploited it all day.

            So see its quite easy to explain really. You just have to watch and think about how games played out. The Eagles D got just about every break you could want for a season. Some stats they had are overblown and inflated.

            This isnt a good D. Not nearly as good as it is in your dreams. Luckily, im confident the Eagles now that. The timid way Davis often played the D shows me hes not very confident in what hes got. He was playing to not get beat, not playing to dictate the game.

            If they think the D is as good as you think it is we are in big trouble and this team will take a step back in 2014.

          • GEAGLE

            I said the last two months of the regular season…as in after the Denver game up until Dallas! you know shutting down 8 of 9 running games..

          • Token

            I just showed you the last 9 games of the 2013 season. Nice try.

          • GEAGLE

            You can say whatever you want, facts are this front office will focus on improving our 3rd down defense, and our base personel will look very similar to what you saw last year….you can disagree with the front office, but I can assure that’s how they will look at it…
            .
            Our run defense is one of the strengths of our team lol..wtf is wrong with people..smh. Our run defense will improve simply by doing nothing. Just by trotting the same personel we had last year back on the field(with new safeties of course)

            Guarentee when the offseason moves are done being made, it will reflect the front office agreeing with what I’m saying right now, so you probably aren’t going to be very happy with the offseason additions, because our base is pretty damn set…you can take it to the bank! :)

            And I don’t care about talking about the eagles in terms of what I want or what you want. I care about discussing how our front office views things, and I can assure the focus will be getting off the field on 3rd down

          • aub32

            You are taking a lot of things to the bank today. I don’t see how you can be so high on the run defense after seeing what happened against the Saints and knowing we didn’t face the better rushing teams in the league. Ryans is getting older. Something has to be done there. We all agree Cole isn’t the answer at ROLB. I like our starting D line but they rotate out quite a bit, and there’s nothing behind them. Kuger has yet to play an NFL snap. You would be clearly guessing if you are projecting him to be a major factor (not that I think that’s what you are saying)

          • GEAGLE

            Who mentioned Kruger?
            Who says ILB don’t need to be added? Have you not seen me talk about KVN for two friggin years?
            Defense needs a lot of help, I’m just telling you the focus of our upgrades will be improving against the pass because our run defense is drastically stronger, and will improve simply by Ced,Logan.Cox.kendricks being a year older and improving the safety support they get..

            No one is telling you we ain’t adding ILBs, but if you expect meco not to have a major role! you will be dissapointed…

          • Tom W

            because they ran on our nickel not our base defense thats how and because we were doubling and bracketing graham and colston and not paying attention to the rbs. Davis said we gave them the run via gameplan. left 5-6 guys in box thats it. not hard to understand.

          • Token

            Right…… His plan was to let them just run to victory. People have to stop believing coach speak. If you believe that then you are believing that Davis is a idiot for not changing his plan when it clearly wasnt working.

          • GEAGLE

            You don’t have to believe anything anyone says..you can just watch the film and see us playing Nickle against two blocking TEs with Graham on the bench..that’s not coaches speak, that’s the reality of what happened

          • Tom W

            It was working .. we should’ve won the freaking game … our offense left at least 17 pts on the field. defense didn’t lost that game. graham did shit. brees did shit. colston did shit. we should have won that game.

          • Token

            At the end of the game, if I recall, The offense left the field with the lead. Then the kicker, who also sucks, kicked it about 20 yards. After that the D just got ran over as if it was no problem for the Saints. They didnt even sweat it out.

          • Tom W

            They went 30 yds on two passes to colston and one nice ingram run and a couple sneaks. our short yardage defense did not stand up to them on 3 and short vs two probowl guards …i can live w that. one drive — we weren’t in nickel for twenty yds and brees got the big game breaking first down on a pass to colston. rest of the game we were in nickel. so you want to cut demeco and bench logan because of one drive. makes sense. our offensive problems the first 3 quarters ALLOWED the saints offense to stay w double TE and the run ….if we get a 10-14 point lead like we shouldve then they are forced to throw in the second half and play into our nickel much like the bears were forced to do.

          • Tom W

            watch the game.

          • Tom W

            His plan was to let them run because its not their freaking strenght …and stop the hall of fame qb and te and historically great passing game. why is this so hard to understand. his strategy gave us the lead and held them to 6 pts in the first half when our offense left 17 pts on the field. we get those points … then saints cant go double te and run the ball … they are forced to pass and play into our nickel and we in. not hard to understand.

          • Token

            Great, Geagle has another new screen name.

            Try harder to cover it up at least. Same writing style.

          • Ig_l

            I think the point is that Davis made a difficult choice because of his weak secondary that he had to play nickel to cover the weakness. So I guess you COULD say he chose to let them run to victory. But it’s not like he had a reasonable alternative.

          • aub32

            Maybe you don’t understand that we are going to have to play nickel again. So if there are no upgrades, then what stops that from happening again. Also, keep in mind Pierre Thomas didn’t play. Mark freaking Ingram ran the ball down our throats. So what am I missing?

          • Token

            Its the new buzz phrase when theres no argument to be made. It was our nickel D!!!! As if it is some weird formation that shouldn’t or will never be used.

            If anything, you need players that dont have to come off the field as much and can play well all around. The idea of having sub package only players is going to die out IMO. Offenses will keep moving faster. You wont always be able to match up personnel.

          • aub32

            I just think it’s funny because our nickel is basically our base D personnel. Logan or Ced leaves, and Barwin and Cole come down to play DE. Boykin comes on.

          • Token

            Its silly for various reasons.

            Does being in Nickel make our players get blown off the ball more? Does it cause the ILBs to miss more tackles or not get off blocks?

          • Tom W

            jesus christ …we played nickel almost the entire game … on first and 10 …second and 7. we game planned to do that to stop brees, graham and colston. yes we go nickel in other games .. but on 3 and 9 , 3 and 12 3 and 6 …obvious passing downs ……that wasn’t the saints game. we sold out to stop brees and graham …davis knew we couldn’t with our safeties. so he said to our 5-6 guys in nickel they will have to stop the run. and saints went double te in the second half in response to us playing nickel and ran in and passed it to watson to beat up on our 5-6 guys in the box … not your typical base of 7 or even 8 on obvious running downs.
            ANd i wish pierre played … they would have ran less and more of their base offense. pierre just makes them less one dimensional

          • GEAGLE

            Lol you are a better man then me….I don’t think I could have answered that bullshit lol “we will play Nickle again” hahahahaha great argument. Valuable

          • Tom W

            I’m with you I don’t get it. we were top 5 in rush defense in ypc. Fact. teams may have gotten garbage yds like the raiders and skins but anyone saying we didn’t have a stout run defense for the great majority of the year (and especially after we put Logan in) is nutz and didn’t watch the games.

            And please freaking stop crying about the saints game … they ran on our freaking nickel defense for the one billionth fucking time. because our safeties suck we had to go nickel to try and limit brees and graham and colston which we basically shut down. Logan wasn’t even most of the time that game and peyton went double te after we shit on them in the first half and they only had 6 pts. Double te allowed them to run on us not demeco or kendricks or logan. jesus go back and watch the games or read the fifteen articles that discussed the game a week later after I was telling everyone our base defense didn’t get run on …it was our nickel.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol friggin silly…news flash, if you are in Nickle, and the other team has two blocking TEs in the game with their stud pass catcher Graham on the bench, you are getting run over…I don’t care if you are the next coming of the steel curtain….we didn’t trust our secondary against Brees, and let them run the ball, gambling that we could stop them, and Sean Peyton masterfully rammed it up our ass. It was no ones fault, just Billy could no longer hide a flawed defense. Simple as that…no coach or GM will over react to one game

          • GEAGLE

            I will always admit when I’m wrong, always give credit when someone’s right..I don’t need to have convenient amnesia to win an argument…can you say the same? Lol HI HATER!!!!

          • Token

            Its easy to explain why that stat in particular is inflated. See above.

          • aub32

            So Kendricks and Ryans don’t play on nickel downs? Last I checked, Rodegers and Brees are still in the NFC. We will likely have to play one of them in the playoffs. What happens when we go nickel. O it’s okay to get abused on the ground as long as it’s the nickel defense? That doesn’t make much sense. You can’t ignore the fact that we didn’t play the top rushing teams. If you are happy with just making the playoffs, then fine. However, in order to win in the playoffs we will likely have to face the 49ers, Hawks, or Panthers, 3 good rushing teams. Or maybe we will face GB or NO where we will be forced to play either dime or nickel.

          • Token

            I just showed you the facts.

            Typical Geagle. Guarantee! Take it to the bank!

            All sizzle no steak.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah that’s what you said this time last year then about 70% of my Guarentees materialized into reality!!! Apparently you know someone who had more aspects predicted correctly then me….lol can’t change the archives pal….it’s all recorded!!! Another year or two and you won’t be able to deny it…what I’m telling you today will prove correct, you will prove wrong…yet you will still be talking shit when we do this again 365 days from now lol…silly

          • Nomseyp

            Ok dude….apply for a job with the Eagles front office or just chill out a little :) sheesh we talking about archives n shiiiii lol

          • Maggie

            Now now. You’re wasting his time, having to read your posts. ;~P

          • BrickSquadMonopoly

            Lol rippin this toolbag.

          • Clamdigger

            If you don’t think Ryans is a rock against the run, you must not watch many games.

          • GEAGLE

            Dude, when someone brings up Rashard Jennings running against our prevent when we are up 40 in the 4th quarter, that’s when you know you are dealing with someone who is reaching and arguing just for the sake of arguing

          • aub32

            Haha. I was typing the exact same post.

          • Token

            Saved you the trouble.

            We will see if the Eagles staff is now capable of self scouting honestly. Taking any favoritism out of the equation. The tape of Ryans would not be nearly as glamorous as some fans would want it to be.

          • aub32

            I agree. Though I hope he stays on the team. Kendricks, though talented is still undisciplined. I would not want to pair him up with some draft pick, and I don’t know if there is much available in FA in the ILB department that would be a significant upgrade over Ryans. I do think we need depth at every LB position and a true ROLB. I am okay with Cole being a backup and nickel specialist but hope to trade Graham at some point. The D line could also use some depth. I do like Cox, Throton, and Logan as the starters and want to see what they can do after having a full year to grow in the system. I would love a true NT, that can come in and spell Logan when he’s having a rough day. Also, one more DE (maybe Kruger) will go a long way.

          • Tom W

            No one is saying his tape is glamorous. we realize having him out there for the most plays in the nfl is a mistake and that he isn’t as excellent in nickel pass coverage. hence why you draft his replacement (or addition) to our ilbs this year in kvn christian jones or barrow. let them come in on passing downs and nickel and leave demeco for the base defense where our defense dominated last year. he is going nowhere this year and probably not next year if we are on the verge of a superbowl. maybe a pay cut but that’s not the way you want to run a team where you are replacing a starter w a unproven rookie especially at the qvb of the defense position. we dont need singletary back there w this offense. we need to get better on third down and subpackages where we got destroyed last year bc we couldn’t play dime or trust our safeties.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah I got til.the entire season was a big mirage. We didn’t beat any good running backs, we didn’t beat any good QBs, we didn’t beat any good defense…I got the memo already…

          • Token

            Ive noticed that the saying “it was against our Nickel D” is the new buzz phrase.

          • aub32

            I don’t see how that makes it any better. Ryans, Kendricks, Cox, and company still play on the nickel D. It’s a bogus excuse. Seattle, not saying we can obtain that level of talent this offseason, played in nickel. O yea, and they are leaving out that it was Mark Ingram.

          • Token

            You want to overlook facts and circumstances because it helps your preseason argument that this defense would be a top 5 monster D. You just are not right about that.

            We had as much good fortune as you can expect to have in a NFL season this year. And im glad for that. It gave these guys a taste of winning and confidence in Chip going forward. But there is a bunch of work to be done. This D is still a bottom dweller. We just have to get it up closer to a top 10. Doesnt have to be GREAT!

          • aub32

            We aren’t a bottom dweller, but we aren’t in the top 12.

          • Ark87

            Don’t forget the flukish health, bad division, and the fact that d coordinators will have us all figured out next year. No room for growth in the projection, it’s all regression to the mean next year. Yeesh, doesn’t take long for optimism to dry up round these parts.

          • aub32

            I am not completely against what you are saying, but I ask that you look at our opponents over the last 8 games. They don’t really scream strong rushing attacks.

            OAK, ARZ, and MIN (w/o AD)
            None of these teams have good quality RBs
            ….
            DET
            Bush got injured slipping in the snow. O yea and there was 87 inches of snow, and Bell is not McCoy
            ….
            GB
            Lacy isn’t a bad back, but with no Rodgers he was the main focus of the entire D.
            ….
            CHI
            They got down too early too quickly. They had to stop running the ball in the first quarter.
            ….
            DAL
            Murray isn’t bad, but they don’t run the ball much.
            ….
            That leaves Washington……the second worst team in the league last year.
            ….
            So no the D doesn’t control the schedule. Yes they did well as a whole in the last 8 games of the regular season. However, context needs to be looked at. They did not stop the Seahawks or 49ers. So let’s calm down on not needing upgrades.

          • GEAGLE

            You can only shut down who you line up against….it’s bad enough people down play what FOles did because apparently we didn’t beat any good QBs, but now people are diminishing our run defense?

            I don’t even get how this is debatable. How can anyone say we weren’t stout against the run for 8 straight weeks before the saints game?

          • RIP illa

            I’d have to prioritize having Ryans’ replacement being a better cover guy, just slightly over being a run stuffer. I wanna see more athletic ability in his replacement so we can send either he or Kendricks or both on more blitzes as well as cover. That doesn’t mean I don’t want him to be stout against the run. He should definitely be stout and an above average run defender. But the point of our D is for our MLBs to be kept clean, not to take on Guards and Centers. So as long as he can read and react, then I wanna see us leaning towards a guy w/ more of the skills I previously mentioned.

          • NickS1

            2 years at 6.9 each? No, you’re probably right, there. But definitely this year. Eagles have no leverage in approaching him to take a paycut right now.

      • Richard Colton

        They need depth at ILB for certain, and an upgrade would be nice. I think we all know who needs to be cut.

        • RIP illa

          As always…F’n Perefect!!!

        • NickS1

          I don’t. Who needs to be cut? :)

          • Richard Colton

            not from the Earth, just from the team.

          • NickS1

            You wouldn’t be overly upset at the former.

          • Richard Colton

            I’m also hoping Alex Henery gets the axe, wonder if the Facts guy will show up to whine.

      • NickS1

        No one is coming in Day 1 and taking his spot. That’s the real point. Accept the fact that he’s your starting ILB with Kendricks and hope we address the position in the draft and have someone who learns this year and can takeover next year.

        • aub32

          That’s fair. Though it would be nice if this new guy via FA or draft were good enough that they could spell Ryans for about 20% of the snaps.

          • NickS1

            I think in the grooming of your next ILB he’s going to get some snaps from him this year. Hell, he needs it. He can’t afford that amount of snaps again.

          • Richard Colton

            KVN’s a guy who could take 20% of ‘Meco’s snaps and be our 4th OLB. That’s year one. Who knows? He may get stronger and develop some kind of pass rush too.

    • RIP illa

      in deed. don’t see it happening since we have no one to fill the void that’ll be left. Sorta thought about a cut and resign for a quick sec, after reading the blurb, but don’t think that would be t all possible with the cap hit cutting him would bring…right? And of course that’s if he was willing to do that at all.

      • NickS1

        There’s no cap hit. He’s playing with no guaranteed money. What we could do, if they REALLY wanted to approach him about it (Capitalized because I don’t think they do), they could as him to redo his contract and get him some guaranteed money, extend him through 2016, and lower his cap hit. However, he has all of the leverage because there’s no one who is coming in Day 1 and taking his spot. So he simply says no, collects his 6.9mil, and tells them politely to eff off. It’s really a no win situation for the Birds.

        • RIP illa

          Thanx and agree.

  • Engwrite

    There seems to be a dichotomy of opinion about DeMeco: (a) that he is the qb and leader of the defense and so important that he stayed on the field for >95% of the snaps and (b) that his statistics were poor and place him near the bottom of ILBs. If they release him, who will play ILB?

    • GEAGLE

      Our DL two gaps, and our run defense was one of the best the last two months.,if DL are occupying blockers, I wonder who was shutting running backs down all year? Lol…there were some games like the GB game, that Meco was playing possessed. Cracking the hell out of RBs, and I think it really set the tone those two months. He had a career year in sacks and INTs, the first year in a scheme all these blowhard analysts said he could never play..He will be even better this year as he is more comfortable and the Baby beasts up front are a little stronger.

      We are about to get his best year as an Eagle, but it does no good to anyone to have him playing so many snaps. We need young athletes who can spell him in sub packages..There is a misconception that he is horrible in coverage. he is NO London Fletcher who simply can’t cover anyone..Meco does some good things! like disrupting routes! throwing WR to the ground, coming up with INTs, so it’s not a case of never wanting Meco on the field in Coverage, but we absolutely need to get talent that can spell him and cut down on his snaps..
      ..
      Expect a big year from him and he will still be here in 2015 if we are chasing a SB that year, but by then it would be a diminished role because the kid we draft this year (Van Noy) will be ready to take over…2015 will be his last year, hopefully he rides off having brought us our first SB..
      ..
      Class act…and I hate fools talking about cutting our leader

      • GEAGLE

        We didn’t make him the face of our defense last year so we could look horrible when we cut him at the end of the year, and we damn sure didn’t trade a 4th round pick for a two year rental, so fools need to stop with the nonsense….the only thing up for debate is how much money he will make this year playing for the eagles

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Brother if they draft Van Noy AND want him in the middle exclusively, it won’t take two years for him to take over as the starter. He’s just too talented to keep off the field & only bring on in sub packages.

        • GEAGLE

          If they draft him, it could mean we didn’t adress OLB in which case we will need him to play on the right side frequently these next two years before eventually sliding inside. KVN is def NFL ready like Kiko

          • dmancine9

            KVN is a MLB? I thought he was an OLB-pass rusher type

          • Richard Colton

            He can play both – and would back up 3 out of 4 LB spots, same way they used caseymatthews this year. Except he can play.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Not a MLB per se as that’s in a 4-3 front. But he’s projected at ILB or OLB in 3-4. He could play either as he’s a good combination of size, speed & athleticism. BYU used him all over the place.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            I, like you, really like Smith at OLB. I really like his knack for the strip sack. But if I’m looking for a guy that I can move all over the place and create mismatches while we buy time between Cole & Ryans, KVN is the absolute perfect fit.

      • myeaglescantwin

        i like the support for the LBs.

        we still need more troops on both the DL and LB core.
        nor necessarily 3rd round or higher, but definitely some depth.

        & i said earlier,, i hope this regime learned about cutting leaders from the last.
        anyone that feels that leaders are not important hasn’t played the game.

      • travis papa

        Geagle step back from the ledge man. Bills are keeping all options open on keeping Byrd including franchising him again. It will be ok the eagles will rap up Allen & a couple other guys for filler then.

    • jabostick

      That last sentence has always sort of been my argument with DeMeco. I’m a fan of his, but I could concede some of the arguments made against him. The bottom line, though, is that he played ALL THE TIME last year. Whether that was because he was great or because the guys behind him were horrible is sort of irrelevant. He is indespensible until someone better is found.

      At that point, then we can talk about intangibles he brings and all that and argue about salary etc.

      • anon

        How good can you be when you are the safety net?

        Gets very little in the box safety help, kendricks is up and down, Cole can’t cover the middle of the field.

  • Token

    Johnny Football comes in at 5’11 207lbs. Shows how much stock you can put into college measurements. He was listed at 6’1.

    • Richard Colton

      He’ll still go top 5. That’s the QB position for you.

      • GEAGLE

        Needs to send a thank you note to Russel Wilson

        • Richard Colton

          and a fruit basket to Drew Brees

          • A Roy

            Brees is at least 6 ft. Johnny is more like Doug Flutie.

          • peteike

            funny, I was thinking yest his ceiling was Doug Flutie. He may be good enough to get a team to the dance but not much more than that. I think he can be decent, just not buying the great ceiling. I think Bortles ends up being top of the 3

          • Richard Colton

            must have grown an inch or two since his Purdue days

        • aub32

          He pretty much already has. That’s the name he and his camp keep mentioning.

      • cliff henny

        all i’m thinking when talking heads are discussing JM is ‘wheeew, thank god for foles’. when i saw him sitting next to tebow on espn’s multi-coverage (btw-tebow was surprisingly good and candid) couldnt believe how slim framed he was. plus that bowl game, he wont last 5 games in nfl playing like that. know is was thinking johnny after dallas game, really glad it’s not something we have to worry about. sure i’d be thinking teddy at 8. very happy foles also saved eagles minimum of 1st and 3rd in this draft.

        • Richard Colton

          Minimum is right. What if we had stayed with Vick and won 8 games? We might be looking at two first rounders to jump up and grab Blake Bortles. Ughhh.

          • cliff henny

            and a lost yr watching rookie qb develope. cant think of anything that changed eagles fortune than foles’ play.

  • aub32

    Wasn’t Ms. Fox writing abot how keeping Cooper would result in the downward spiral that would lead to the Eagles turning upon one another and finishing no better than 2012? Man I wish I could be that wrong and still keep my job.

  • Colin Baggs

    We should grab Brandon Spikes or Donald Butler out of free agency.

  • myeaglescantwin

    i think we learned from the previous reginme what happens when you cut the leaders..
    nothing can replace what a leader of men can do in a locker room and on the field.

    I guess this will be the first test to see if they learned anything.

    • myeaglescantwin

      what would you guys / gals say to selecting Bama’s Mosley??

      personally, if we can get either him or HAHA, i’d be pumped.

      • RIP illa

        Hmmm…Nope!

        • myeaglescantwin

          what do you have against the best coverage safety in the draft or the best ILB in the draft?? are you using the Andy Reid Draft Manual??

          • George

            nope. i’m using the “alabama lb’s/ secondary players are generally busts” one

          • NickS1

            ^ This

          • myeaglescantwin

            absolutely right there.

            they have had top 10 players in each of those positions the past few years come into the league and look lost.

            i’m just seeing Mosley’s tape and looking at home Hightower has translated up in NE.

          • RIP illa

            LMAO. By all accounts, I believe Ward is the best cover Safety in the draft!!! Besides, I’m not really against HAHA, it’s just that he doesn’t excite me all that much for our 1st round pick. If we took him in the 1st I wouldn’t be really upset tho. And Hellllllllllllllz No to drafting Mosely in the 1st!!! Personally, I don’t want us wasting our 1st on an ILB, unless he was good as LK from Carolina, and he’s definitely not that. Let alone I don’t see him as being the best player possible at 22.
            I’ll be fine w/ using the Andy Reid Draft Manual. Just as long as I’m not using The Insert Big School and Insert Big Name Draft approach!

          • myeaglescantwin

            i’m more along the lines of big plays, production, leadership, and game film.

            but you’re right, there are other needs to drop the #1 on besides a reserve ILB

  • Tom W

    Rosenthal is a fantasy football guy from rotoworld … why nfl.com thinks he now has free agent offseason expertise is beyond considering he doesn’t have any experience as a gm, personnel guy, cap guy, scout, etc.

  • Eagles4Life

    Don’t cut DeMeco. Just draft Christian Jones.

    • RIP illa

      Yes Please!!!

    • Richard Colton

      I’m on the Christian Jones in the 3rd round bandwagon. See RIP illa if you need tickets.

      • NickS1

        I want another second round pick or an early third. Having to pick later in rounds hurts and I don’t think Jones sees the 22nd selection of the third round unless he totally craps the bed at the combine.

        • Richard Colton

          Hypothetical – would you trade your 3rd and one of your 5ths to move up 10 spots to grab Jones?

          • NickS1

            That’s tough, but very possibly. But, as I’ve stated, I’d much rather trade my first down to 28/29 or lower and pick up the extra pick that way. That’s contingent on how the board falls, obviously. But, in the scenario you propose, I don’t like losing the second 5th because I’d like the extra pick to nab a Lyerla/DAT. Don’t hate it, but I hesitate before caving.

          • cliff henny

            wish hinkie would take over for a day…what i would give to have 5 2nds in this draft.

          • NickS1

            I’d need new shorts if we had 5 picks.

          • cliff henny

            wonder how eagles will view barrow, lsu kid. he’s very similar to jones (4th-5th rd pick though) in that he can play some olb, spot ryans as nickel-backer all while being groomed to take over mlbr in 2 or 3 yrs.

  • Vet Linc

    Ryan’s is serviceable. Nothin more or less.

    If he played in Dallas or New York, all you blowhards that are on his jock would think the same.

    He is an average ILB.

    • anon

      Like everyone else on our defense he would benefit from us having a stud on defense. He’s a meat and potatoes guy numbers aren’t super sexy but he’s indispensable given our talent on d.

  • cliff henny

    on ryans, think they could meet in the middle, like 3yrs, make it guarenteed for next 2 around 4.5 to 5m/per. he takes less, but gets ’15 guarenteed for his efforts. he has leverage today, think we all figure someone’s coming in this draft to spell him in passing situations and reduce snaps, but ’15 is 7m no dead, and what would he get as 30 yr on open market. 10m over 2 yrs should be very close to what he would make as eagle in ’14 and free agent in ’15.
    .
    as for bad precedent in locker room, all these guys know the last couple years on contracts get pretty dicey. especially when getting close to 30 yrs old, have large cap numbers or when money skyrocket,ie cole’s next year-everyone knows he’s not seeing that.

    • NickS1

      No dead this year, too. He’s got all the leverage, and if I’m him, I’m saying to Howie, let’s sit down after the season (and after getting paid 6.9mil) and work out a small extension, get some guarantees and we’ll lower that cap figure to about 3-4/yr for 2-3yrs.

      • cliff henny

        rolling the dice some that a, he’s healthy and b, guy like christian jones doesnt get drafted and come in and play like he wants the job. why eagles would need to toss in ’15 getting guarenteed. 7m no dead next yr, eagles are going to be looking to free cap, he’d be first guy i’d look at if i were howie. 10m over 2 yrs isnt like they’d be asking him to play for food stamps, just more inline. he shouldnt be top tier pay for ilbrs.

        • NickS1

          I guess it really just depends on Demeco’s mindset. Does he want to see this thing through and try to win here/retire here, or does he want max dollars. If it’s the former, I think he has his agent call Howie to figure it out now, but set some parameters like, nothing less than 3yrs, preferably 4. If it’s the latter, I take my 7m knowing I’m hitting FA and going to get another deal. Someone will pay him enough that he gets 10mil more from NFL contracts one way or the other. Depends on how he wants to get there. The health risk is a factor, but probably not a big one. He was consistent all year and likely is of the mindset he can do it again if he’s getting a breather here and there.

          • cliff henny

            sure, figure something like 4 yrs 18m, with 2yrs w/5m each guarenteed. last 2 no dead money, something like that. if it were me, i wouldnt want to be 30yr old mbl looking for work. he’s in great situation, team on rise, values leadership and will pay for it. think peters, celek and avant should all have same mindset. all made good to great money, shouldnt be chasing it at the end of their careers.

          • NickS1

            Funny, I was thinking the exact same in years and overall dollars, but I’d give him half of 3rd year guaranteed. So 4yrs, 18mil, 12 guaranteed.

          • cliff henny

            or, could do a jerry jones deal. like 5 yrs 50m, 2 yrs guarenteed at vet minimum of 1m, and give him 10m signing bonus, so in 3rd yr have 6m dead and have to restructure till ryans 35 yrs old just to be able to sign picks.

          • NickS1

            I want to like this 10 more times. Long live Jerry.

          • NickS1

            SEA expected to release SidKnee Rice. Think Howie called his agent yet? Haha

    • travis papa

      I was going to say about the samething. Maybe 2 or 3 yrs 10mil guaranteed like 6 this yr 4 next and an option for a 3rd at 5mil. He’s due nearly 14 over the next 2yrs and will never see it. Probably pay him this yr & nothing short of an all-pro dpoy type yr he doesn’t see 7mil next yr. I’d love him to be here 2-3 more yrs at the right price though.

  • Sven

    We need fierce pass rushing OLB, Cole and Graham just don’t cut it. They are the 2nd weakest link (after S) on the defense. I wonder where Acho and McCoy (last years pre-season standouts) feature in Eagles plans for the coming year.

    • anon

      our LBs are better than our secondary.

  • Maggie

    Wonder why the “experts” keep mocking corners to the Eagles when it’s Safety that is more urgent? Do these “experts” think all DBs are interchangeable?

    • RIP illa

      It’s because Pryor, Dix, and Ward and Ward is pretty much a fringe guy who’s being vaulted up cuz of good coverage skills, but more so for the lack of depth in round one at the position.) may all be gone by 22. And since our FO touts BPA and since we also could use a CB, it’s not too hard to understand. Really, if those guys are off the board and we’re left w/ our choice of DB, between Bucannon or Dennard, Varrett, or Gilbert…are you really gonna pick Bucannon???
      And odds are pretty good that one of those 3 may indeed be BPA by the time we pick. Just depends on how we rank other players from other positions.

      • Maggie

        As you stated in your last line, I would think that if no decent safety is left by #22, they would draft at another position. OLB, WR, OL? All seem to be positions which need to be filled or improved sooner or later. And according to the 50 comments posted here earlier, about ONE HALF OF ONE GAME last year, apparently there is a desperate need for ILB? And the usual “let’s draft another QB if one is there at #22″. All speculation since no one here, not even the GREAT all-knowing one, has yet to see the Eagles board. ;~P

        • RIP illa

          1st rd OL talent may also be gone by 22. WR could be an option but the draft is deep and value could be had later on. However if a top WR makes it to us then that shouldn’t be ruled out, and there’s plenty of Mocks that have a WR coming to us in the 1st…just like CB. No one wants to draft a QB in the 1st and the Qbs worthy of that designation should be gone as well. No one wants to draft an ILB in the first either. There’s only one legit 1st round ILB, as of now, anyway. The discussion is just about finding Ryans’ eventual replacement. Nobody has said that that has to be in the 1st.

          You asked why CBs are being mocked to us and I gave you an answer…Cuz there’s a reasonable chance of that happening. Don’t know why your up in arms about it.

          • Maggie

            Not really up in arms. More annoyed with the long dragged out discussion about the second half of a game which is now history. And just shortsightedness in general. Sorry to bother you.

          • RIP illa

            Not a bother at all. Long offseason so anything Eagled:football related is fair game. Including discussions anyone’s sick of.

  • theedevilsadvocate

    getting rid of meco this year would be a mistake if anything he makes our D look better taking him out will just set us back…