What About Chris Clemons?

NFL: Carolina Panthers at Miami Dolphins

In the past week or so, we’ve profiled a couple of the bigger-name free agents at safety: Jairus Byrd and T.J. Ward.

But if Howie Roseman is telling the truth when he says the Eagles will target more mid-tier guys, it’s worth exploring who those options might be.




And one name Birds 24/7 readers have asked about is Miami Dolphins safety Chris Clemons. So we'll start with him and cycle through some more names in the days ahead.

WHY HE MAKES SENSE

Clemons has excellent measurables. At 6-1, 214, he has exceptional size for the position, and Clemons ran a 4.41 coming out of Clemson (although that was back in 2009).

He has experience as well. Clemons started all 32 games the past two seasons and 48 in his career. In 2013, he played a big role in making the calls for Miami's defense.

The Eagles need bodies. The only safety that finished the 2013 season on the roster and will definitely be here in 2014 is Earl Wolff. The team could look to add multiple safeties through free agency and the draft, letting the top two emerge through competition next summer.

Clemons signed a one-year deal for $2.75M last offseason. In other words, he can probably be had for cheap.

WHY HE DOESN'T

This section is going to be a little longer.

Let's start with the obvious. Clemons was a free agent last offseason, and the Eagles had a major need at the position. It sounds like he wanted to stay in Miami, but more than likely, if the Birds liked him, they could have offered him a more lucrative deal. Instead, they went with Patrick Chung and Kenny Phillips. In other words, it seems unlikely that the organization's opinion has changed dramatically based on Clemons' 2013 season.

After having watched film of Clemons from last season, it was tough to point to one or two things he did really well. He was more of a free safety than a strong safety. Clemons only spent 28.1 percent of the run snaps in the box, according to Pro Football Focus. That ranked 43rd among the 63 safeties who played at least 50 percent of their team's snaps. He was OK against the run, but did not make a lot of plays near the line of scrimmage.

Clemons was OK in coverage as well. The Dolphins played a lot with two deep safeties, and Clemons did not stand out as a ballhawk. In his five year career, he has four interceptions (and two forced fumbles).

Clemons has the size to match up against tight ends, but he didn't stand out in that respect either. Jimmy Graham ran right past him for a 43-yard touchdown when the Dolphins faced the Saints. Granted, that's the best receiving tight end in the game, but I didn't get the sense Clemons was much of a TE-stopper.

He also missed 14 tackles, per PFF, and ranked 44th in tackling efficiency.

BOTTOM LINE

I don't see Clemons as a fit. He does a lot of things at an adequate level, but there is little to suggest that he would provide the Eagles with a significant boost in any one area. In addition to the things I mentioned above, he turns 29 in September. And it's tough to get past the fact that they didn't make a move for him last offseason.

Maybe there's a small chance that the Eagles take a look at Clemons on a one-year deal, but the guess here is they'll look to go in a different direction.

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  • GEAGLE

    Like I said, no shot we sign Clemons. The safety is Jenkins…sucks, but it’s better then Chung.
    ..
    Clemons is just a name. Anyone who actually watched him would never be pounding the table for us to sign him. I’m not even sure he is better then Nate. Bet Miami would love to replace him with Nate, and that’s not a good sign

    Hopefully Byrd takes less to come here, if not we will settle for Malcom Jenkins(jersey boy, 60 plus starts under his belt at a young age)
    ..

    • Colin Baggs

      major wright is not that bad. is on a really bad defense in chicago who were starting rookie linebackers and old d linemen. peppers is good but old. he could be a nice piece to add imo.

      • GEAGLE

        Bears have more need at safety then us..if Major was worth a damn, they wouldn’t be so eager to let him become a FA. They won’t even attempt to lowball him into staying. I would be surprised if we consider him..?Like the Bears are talking about letting Wright walk and replacing him with roman friggin Harper. Like that doesn’t speak to well about Wrights game. Wright isn’t an upgrade. At best he is a lateral move to Nate..if you aren’t going to significantly upgrade, might as well bring back Nate and take the continuity. We can agree to disagree, but I’d be real surprised if we offer him a deal

        • Colin Baggs

          What do you expect when you are starting john bostic at lb and your dline is older than jamie moyer? when you play across from chris conte? Look at some tape. Not as bad as you would think. Would be good to add for competition at least.

          • GEAGLE

            If we offer him a contact, I promise I will remember to give you your props…I would just be really surprised to see us target him…I just don’t see us replacing Nate Allen with major wright. Only way I could envision him is if instead of signing one quality safety, we want two average ones like Nate and Major…if we are signing one starting caliber safety, I be shocked if it were major

        • RIP illa

          And right there you just gave the reason why we shouldn’t sign Malcolm Jenkins…Might as well bring back Nate.

          • GEAGLE

            Jenkins isn’t what I think we should do….it’s what I think will happen

      • Tom W

        He is horrible. Graded out as the worse staring safety in 2013. historically bad.

    • Tom W

      Completely disagree w Sheils and your analysis. He isn’t just a name. And Sheil’s ENTIRE argument weighs completely on the fact that Eagles “CHOSE” not to sign him last year. Who says he wanted to come here at all???? its reported he is a florida guy and wants to stay in miami. Just like Keenan lewis — who said he wanted to go home to new orleans and took less money to do so. Why is it the same can’t be said about Clemons. Maybe he didn’t want to come to the eagles last year and took less money to get back to dolphins. Dolphins cant afford a long term deal in two safeties bc they already paid one.

      May not excel at anything but he doesn’t suck at anything like chung or allen or major harris or harper or jenkins etc.

      He graded out much higher than Nate at run and pass the last three years. That argument is just silly. and he fits our mold of bigger as well.

      No one is saying he is Byrd or TJ ward. But he is better than the rest w the least flaws. not a ballhawk not a game changer but a steady vet.

      Miami hoping to Replace Clemons w Nate ….you are just pulling that our of your ass.

      Jenkins stinks … he is worse than Clemons and Nate ..why in the world would we sign him.

      and dont see how you can say 100 percent we aren’t signing him (or delmas to a lesser extent). other than that he isn’t byrd or ward, you don’t really have an argument why we wouldn’t sign him to fill a hole ala fletch or cwill or chung. Same could be said about jenkins or delmas or mitchell or brown

      • RIP illa

        I tried telling you before, you can’t just ignore the fact that they didn’t sign him last year. It’s a pretty big deal. Yes he maybe a Florida guy…but the fact that he signed a one year deal for less than 3 mil, is a really good indicator that the Eagles did not make him an offer at all. In fact, it’d be pretty safe to assume that he wasn’t even a possibility that the team wanted to explore. Maybe they see something this year, now that Allen’s most likely gone, but there’s nothing at all to support that and it remains very doubtful. And there have been reports that we have no interest in Delmas.

        But yeah I agree…We shouldn’t sign this guy

        Real funny thing…Major Harris was a 70’s – 80’s R&B singer. Major Wright’s the safety. Not trying to be a dick. Just thought it was funny.

        • Tom W

          Or option 3 the eagles didn’t even look at him (let alone consider him last year and say no) because CHIP came in and said I want Chung — I know him he is an oregon guy — and Philips was just the crap upside low downside low money guy to pair w our other starter allen or wolf.

        • peteike

          macho harris?

          • RIP illa

            I put him in the same group as Major Harris…pass. LOL

        • GEAGLE

          Wtf is wrong? You aren’t making a habit out of this agreeing with me nonsense are you? :) jk

        • Maggie

          A little more trivia. Major Harris was the lead singer for Blue Magic first and his cousin was Norman Harris. Ah, the Sound of Philadelphia.

          • RIP illa

            Ha…learn something new everyday. That’s some good R&B knowledge.

      • GEAGLE

        I’m telling you it’s between Jenkins, Byrd and Whitner but you are entitled to disagree…

        • Tom W

          2 outta 3 aint bad

          • GEAGLE

            Clemons won’t even be considered…

        • travis papa

          How bout Byrd Allen or whitner in that order. The more I read and look into it outside Byrd or ward no one is really an upgrade over allen. There is a lot that can be said about continuity and Allen was the only safety on the team to start from day 1 and be there for 17gms. Defense in general is very similar to OL. Same 5guys is more important than 1 or 2 stars. Not saying the same 11 starters on def but look at the Steelers defenses and baltimore defenses mostly the same faces for nearly a decade.

          • GEAGLE

            Continuity absolutely matters..the only thing I don’t like about Nate is, I don’t believe in bidding on our own players. If we believe in him and want him to be part of the future, I can live with it…but then I need them to extend Nate NOW!!! I don’t want it to be a case of we can’t sign who we want, so then we have to outbid someone to keep Nate Allen….if you wanna keep him, fine, but do it because we want him. Not because we are settling for him….decide on him NOW. Either extend him before he becomes a free Agent, or go out and secure an upgrade and let him walk…if you let him become a free agent, then I don’t want him back…extend him now to team friendly contract, and I can live with it

      • GEAGLE

        Lol a 29yr old who basically only been starting these last two years?

    • Token

      Jenkins sucks too. So I dont get the point.

  • Colin Baggs

    He is not an upgrade IMO. I’d rather have Nate Allen. I say try for major wright and malcolm jenkins.

    • GEAGLE

      Major wright is BAD!! Bears have serious issues at safety, he wouldn’t be a free agent if he was worth a damn…

      • anon

        Was he bad when Lovie was there? You could say everyone there was bad last year.

      • RIP illa

        Could that be possibly cuz they spent most of the time facing the run, as if they were DTs? Nate was also bad when his primary responsibility was the run. However, this year his responsibilities were, pass, pass, and pass. He played well this year.
        Major Wright was decent to good in the past when he didn’t have RB’s smashing his face and having to save TD runs on almost every play. Same w/ Conte!!! You can’t just dismiss the effect that it had on both players…not saying we should sign him tho. And yes…the Bears run D was that horrid that both Safeties had to give a significant, irregular, and inordinate amount of help.

        • GEAGLE

          Sure I guess…but if I don’t expect us to sign him what am I supposed to do? Pretend? Could be wrong, I just don’t see it

      • cliff henny

        woj-bomb…2 more 2nds coming to sixers

        • Tom W

          yep and maynor could opt out of his 2 mil deal and off the books next year

          • cliff henny

            ’15 and ’16 though. guess 5 in this draft is enough. so basically he bought 2 2nds for a mill each. not bad.

        • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

          can Hinkie get the whole 2nd rd?

          • cliff henny

            it wont be for lack of trying.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            maybe after the 1st rd coup, he invokes his inner belichick and trades them all for ’15 picks, and then ’16…until we own the ’17 draft? or maybe he goes the other route, getting a dozen euros who secretly train with Huls and the smoothie staff, arriving in ’16 or ’17 like the bad guys in Space Jam?
            wow, either way, I may have to start watching the 76ers again

          • cliff henny

            well, i suggest starter next year…rest of this season is going to be rough.

          • Andy124

            So we ended up only trading Hawes? No Turner or Young? Much disappoint.

          • Andy124

            But isn’t that kind of like the Eagles drafting the entire 7th round?

  • Tom W

    Here are a couple more insightful analysis of Chris Clemons than demonstrate more of his worth for argument sake: — all of this tout Clemons coverage ability and portray him as a good safety — two miami, one kansas city, and two national sources including profootball focus. FIgure things out for yourself but think sheil may have whiffed on this one because we need a free safety who can cover and clemons did that at a probowl level last year. not a ballhawk but a stellar cover guy deep ..nate’s weakness.

    http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2014/01/17/top-20-miami-dolphins-of-2013-no-12-chris-clemons/

    http://www.thephinsider.com/2013/6/30/4480234/dolphins-roster-breakdown-chris-clemons

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/10/24/3707705/miami-dolphins-defense-in-safe.html

    http://arrowheadaddict.com/2014/01/27/free-agent-free-safety-targets-chris-clemons-stevie-brown/

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/05/29/secret-superstar-chris-clemons/

    • NickS1

      I find it interesting that he played more of a FS role but, from what I remember, gets listed everywhere as a SS… Also, the birds passing on him last year doesn’t really mean much to me. As the PFF article notes, he didn’t have a ton of reps. He probably didn’t get the contract he wanted and resigned with Miami, which I don’t find damning, even if the Eagles did pass up on him. Also, stating that we went the Chung/Phillips route makes US look bad, here, not Clemons. We tried to go cheap and injured at S and got burned by it. Doubt that mistake happens again.

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        all that, plus I don’t like many of the other Safeties (especially Malcolm Jenkins, if only because I’ve seen his name enough on these threads the last few days to make my eyes bleed)

        addendum: honestly though, between Clemons and Allen, I think I’d honestly favor Nate. Get a better CB and a safety next to him who’s not Chung or Coleman and he may continue to improve.

        • NickS1

          Yeah, there’s not a lot out there that that get me excited. I’ve forced myself to become okay with a mid-level (not Byrd/Ward) signing, so if that were the case, my personal preference would be Clemons on a three or four year deal. The tackling woes noted are certainly cause for caution, but from the sounds of everything we’ve read, we’re one of the few teams that emphasize fundamentals in practice on a daily basis. Makes me think it can be cleaned up a little. Jenkins or Whitner wouldn’t really upset me, nor would bringing back Allen, but signing any of these four makes me still want to draft a S earlier than round 4.

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t think we can avoid drafting a safety in the first 4 rounds,..even if you sign Byrd, we still need a rookie to compete with Wolff…don’t see any scenario where we can get out of spending draft picks on OLB, Safety and WR in first 5 rounds…

          • NickS1

            Assuming we keep all of our picks and don’t trade, there’s a lot of possible combinations that could make a S selection wait until the 4th or 5th. Too hard to project that far into it. Now, if we make moves to acquire another pick (preferably two) in rounds two or three, then certainly. Again, too much projection to say that. We all thought they’d take a S in the first two or three rounds last year and we sat there until the 5th.

        • GEAGLE

          Only you get to talk about Joyner every day since December,,,lol a 5’8 safety we will never draft :)

        • ohitsdom

          I got trashed in a previous post, but I’m still in favor of resigning Allen. He was solid last year, could be even better next year in the same system. As you said, not a whole lot of available talent at safety. And if Ward and Byrd make it to free agency, they won’t come cheap. Last year we all thought Chung was the best of our safeties but he was the worst, don’t want to go through that again. Allen, Wolff, a veteran FA and a drafted safety would be a good group IMO.

    • Eagles4Life

      Great links…found another one that in re: to Maclin vs. Tate. Can’t say I’m surprised by some of the things in the article.

      http://arrowheadaddict.com/2014/01/20/kansas-city-chiefs-fa-targets-jeremy-maclin-vs-golden-tate/

      • Maggie

        I suggested taking a look at Tate 3 weeks ago. Another poster here said I was a fool and it would never happen. Since then, I believe you are the third person I have seen mention the guy. Nice to have a little validation. Thanks.

        • Eagles4Life

          Lol it may not happen, but you aren’t crazy for suggesting it. One of the knocks would be two starters 5’10 and under, but aside from that, you’d get a guy that can actually take some hits while catching the ball and a tackle avoider/breaker.

          • Maggie

            Watch his hit on Dallas LB Sean Lee on Youtube. And he returns kicks.

    • Maggie

      But 44th in tackling efficiency?

  • Andy

    I think similar to last year with the CBs, if we could just plug in a pair of league-average safeties it is going to make the secondary much better by comparison. Who among us would have but Williams and Fletcher at the top of our wishlists a year ago? But they were dramatically better than the stiffs they replaced.

    • anon

      They still weren’t good in the grand scheme — we’ll see if better safety play improves that — we might just still need better players.

  • Mikeq

    Completely off topic, but is anyone else having problems with the comments loading for the articles on this site? Apologies if this was covered in another thread or is just me having trouble.

  • DEBO 215

    No.

  • Eagledelphia

    Even more cap room now there will be no better time to sign a impact player

  • Honest_T

    If Clemons is worth anything, he will be picked up by his former coach Todd Bowles in AZ.

  • JofreyRice

    Slight upgrade, but they can and should do better.

    • cliff henny

      pretty much how i feel. change for change sake isnt optimal, but i’ve had my fill of Allen. think Wolff looked as good as him within weeks of playing. guess lor depends on contracts, but if byrd / ward’s arent insanel overpriced, be really tough to sell me anything much less

      • JofreyRice

        Byrd’s a top safety in the league (arguably the best deep safety), and he’s hitting free agency in the prime of his career. He’s going to cash out. As long as his character is good, and he wasn’t asking for Dr. Evil one-hundred-billion-dollars money, I’d give him what he wants.

        • cliff henny

          to me, it’s fund Foles money anyways.

          • JofreyRice

            I was responding to this post ” QBs (start for their teams for 5 years or more) outside of round 1 are the exception and not the rule?”

            So I guess I did ignore any earlier post you allured too. Are you now changing your opinion to fit this late narrative?

            Close only counts in Horseshoes and when throwing hand grenades. Neither Brees or Favre were drafted in round 1.

            That’s still a small sample size, the super bowl is 50 years old.

          • cliff henny

            not following you JR

          • JofreyRice

            I was to big to play pee wee, by the time I was 9 I played with the 125 or 135 lbs………. those kids were 3 to 4 years older. by the time I was 13, I wasn’t playing with the kids any more.

          • Andy124

            No wonder I was confused. I kinda still am, but this makes it all better.

          • JofreyRice

            No, but I played Soccer when I was 7 and 8 years old, I was to much bigger than the other kids my age and thus to young to play with the older kids, so I played soccer and was on the swim team until I was old enough to be able to handle myself on the football field with older kids.

            That’s not a unique situation if you played sports or have kids who play sports, especially Football.

          • cliff henny

            all-time classic. too fat to play football…the fat bastard dutch must have sunk like a stone

          • JofreyRice

            That was seriously one of the best discussions I’ve ever seen on here. He was flying high right after Foles’ awful game against Dallas. He was in that Michael Jackson “Thriller” zone, as a poster.

          • RIP illa

            I’m not rooting for us to get Major, just don’t think we should dismiss it. We’d all love for us to get Byrd, but realistically, if we don’t bring Allen back we’re most likely gonna have to sign somebody. Whether it be Jenkins, Clemons, or whoever…I don’t really care at this point, as long as we draft our future starter and HOFer.

            EDIT: My bad, that was supposed to go to Geags

  • Token

    Makes no sense. Just keep Nate Allen if you want to be mediocre. Different doesnt equal better.

    • GEAGLE

      Yup…it’s only worth giving up continuity, if we are going to upgrade. Lateral moves are silly

  • myeaglescantwin

    i love it. “heres a guy that might be an option, , , but really, , , isn’t.”

  • Rick H

    BIG WILD FUN GUESS HERE!!! I believe the Eagles sign Byrd to a big deal with a lot of money in the first two years then team friendly after that.

  • Jerry Pomroy

    Roseman was asked today about Logan & whether team feels they need to upgrade NT. Said that they like Benny & feel he can add weight to his frame. Was also asked about FA & whether he thought there was a top player available. His response was yes if they don’t get tagged or re-sign. He’d only be interested in opening checkbook for unique player.

    Sounds like Benny +10-20lbs is your NT & if the Eagles feel Byrd is in fact unique, could make a play for him. He seems pretty unique to me.

    • GEAGLE

      Like I promise..Benny is the starting NT, and we ain’t adding 6-8mil a year free agents to our Dline…everyone can forget about the 350lbs WARPIGs, and start setting their sites on Cheaper 305lb Alex Carrington types..

      If we wanted a 350NT, we wouldn’t have drafted Logan, who is the same size as the NT Billy used in Arizona,,

      Benny is the starter, they ain’t adding ANY free agent that would send Benny to the bench….take that to the bAnk!!
      ,.
      Thanks for the Intel..any idea where I can hear Howies press conference? It was at 230 today

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Eagles website I believe it’s supposed to have it up. I saw it on Twitter. Which is where I’m firing this info from the local reporters. Haven’t had a chance to watch yet.

        He also said that this WR class is unique & reiterated that Eagles want for competition at QB isn’t slight towards their confidence in Foles. Finally, he asked if he would value leadership over production. Said he believes that you can’t be a leader if you’re not contributing on the field. (Reference was believed to be towards Avant, not Ryans).

        • GEAGLE

          Thank you sir..
          ..
          If we add any DL it would be a backup to Benny who can play NT for a multiple front Defense(versatile) or an interior pass rusher for Nickle to rotate with Cox and Curry,,,

          Our run defense is a strength, Nickle is a weakness….pass rush will be upgraded, run defense is STOUT and will be better by guys being a year older

          • Jerry Pomroy

            YW

  • GEAGLE

    Question..Can anyone tell me the story behind Taylor lewans Charecter and attitude problems? Heard Miami wouldn’t take him because of his attitude, but I don’t recall him being suspended or anything..

    • Jerry Pomroy

      He’s a John Runyan type. Brash in nature & dirty. Was very short & kinda nasty to media after they lost to Michigan State.

      • GEAGLE

        Thanks…thought I was missing a suspension, arrest or something…

        • Jerry Pomroy

          I really don’t want the Giants taking him. Would hate to have to face him twice a year. Hopefully he gets snatched up before they pick or they pass him up. Although I’d love to see he and Barwin in a street fight…lol.