What They’re Saying About the Eagles

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Here’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles this week.

Brian Dawkins talked to Broncos players this week and had some interesting advice, according to Peyton Manning:

“Brian Dawkins came to talk to the team the other day, an ex-Bronco, of course will be in the Hall of Fame, one of the best safeties I’ve ever played against. He just said in the one Super Bowl he played in, he said he didn’t enjoy it. He said he did not… he just thought any possible minute he had to be studying more and was always just intense and grinding. And that he regretted that. And they obviously didn’t win the game, but he said more than that he regretted kind of that he didn’t enjoy the week. I thought that was good advice. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for a number of guys. I think you have to enjoy the process.”

Josh Norris of Rotoworld mocks Oklahoma State CB Justin Gilbert to the Eagles at No. 22:

Gilbert was not very good in 2012, but Oklahoma State’s more aggressive defense played into his hand in 2013. He still struggles to turn and run while mirroring receivers, but there has been plenty of buzz about Gilbert. He has great ball skills as well.


Brandon Boykin is locked into the slot. Bradley Fletcher has one year left on his deal, while Cary Williams has two. Dee Ford is also a possibility here.

Boomer Esiason played for Pete Carroll on the Jets 20 years ago. Here's the comparison he made to The MMQB:

"To this day I have no idea why Mr. Hess fired Pete after one season," Esiason said. "He was brilliant. He was the Chip Kelly of his time. I wish he’d have stayed our coach."

Elliot Harrison and Gil Brandt of NFL.com rank all 47 Super Bowls. Eagles-Patriots comes in at No. 20:

Donovan McNabb's puking habits became all the rage in the media after Terrell Owens let the world in on his interpretation of why Philadelphia failed late: McNabb's conditioning program could use a NordicTrack. Watch this game again, if you happened to DVR it back in February of 2005. The Eagles looked awfully lethargic getting in and out of the huddle, despite trailing 24-14 with five minutes left.

Eagles-Raiders was No. 33.

Eric Galko of Optimum Scouting has the Eagles taking Michigan State CB Darqueze Dennard at No. 22:

The Eagles have invested in the cornerback position in recent years, but it hasn’t produced results yet. Cary Williams is highly inconsistent, Bradley Fletcher has battled through injuries, and Brandon Boykin has been very impressive but is limited to nickel coverage on most occasions. Add in the best cornerback in this class, and the Eagles go from concerns to the secondary to being a free safety away from their defensive backfield being a plus.

Per Len Pasquarelli of the National Football Post, Michael Vick's camp is starting to realize he may not get a chance to start again:

People close to Michael Vick have quietly begun to try to gauge where there might be opportunities for him in 2014. And while they haven’t concluded yet that Vick may have to settle for a No. 2 job, that seems to be the increasing impression.

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  • Explorer51

    One more interesting Eagles-related tidbit on that Pete Carroll getting fired by the Jets after one year…he was replaced by the just and justly fired Rich Kotite, who was even worse with the Jets than he was with the Eagles.

    OK, now I’m writing about ex-Eagles coaches…I can’t wait for this effin’ Super Bowl to be over so we can get to free agency, the draft, and then mini-camps.

    • Kev_H

      Kotite actually did pretty well with the Eagles, especially considering his franchise QB missed about 30 games in four seasons. The team averaged 9 wins a year and routed both the eventual champion Cowboys in 1992 and the eventual champion 49ers in 1994.

      • CSpangler

        He sucked. Were you alive during that time? His famous quote was “Hey 8-8 is great”. Total clueless buffoon, his wins dried up when Buddy Ryan’s players dried up.

        • http://www.facebook.com/cliffton.ainley Cliffton Ainley

          Yeah, and he won one more playoff game than the “beloved” Buddy Ryan…so what does that make Buddy, other than the most overrated HC in the history of the Eagles?

      • Explorer51

        That’s one way of looking at his 4 yr tenure. The other is that he inherited a team that went 10-6, 11-5, 10-6 in the three yrs preceding him with, arguably, the most dominating D in Eagles history in ’91 and ’92 which were Kotite’s first two years. Those seasons were good, thanks in large part to that D… 10-6 & 11-5; second two, not so much…8-8, 7-9. Of course, he did coach for the worst owner in Eagles history, Norman Braman…hopefully we can agree on that.

  • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

    “Brian Dawkins came to talk to the team the other day, an ex-Bronco, of course will be in the Hall of Fame, one of the best safeties I’ve ever played against.”

    I’ll grant you the ex-Bronco bit, Peyton, on account of you having some factual evidence on your side. But we all know what color jersey he’ll have on at his HOF speech. I’ll give you a hint….it ain’t orange

    . <—-(patented cliff henny paragraph break)

    2 guys mocking a CB in round 1? nothing against either kid, but I don't see it, nor do I want it. There are just too many LB, S, and WR prospects that should be available at 22. Grab a big, developmental CB later on and let him grow into the position for '15. I don't want to see one before the 4th.

    • cliff henny

      those 2 years of him in Denver were weird games to watch. just wasnt right.

      • GEAGLE

        I generally tried to avoid watching him…I’m pretty clueless to his Denver career. Couldn’t stand to watch, while we were counting on macho Harris…macho FRIGGIN Harris. if it ain’t time for Byrd Ward, then when will it ever be?

        • CSpangler

          Dawkins had about 8-10 good games in DEN. Then he was a liability. Its not like we “reggie white’d” him. He was done. Like it or not Dawkins was at the end of his career.

          • Mr. Magee

            You’re correct CS… Saying that is heresy in these parts

          • Wiztopher

            Very true, Bdawk couldn’t run anymore, but he could have provided more of cultural stability to the birds as a vet in the locker room then mb in a FO position. First it was JJ, then BDawk. Then, there was nothing.

    • mtn_green

      Green jersey agreed.

      Bpa is not a corner in first. National mock drafters generally slide towards generally obvious need. Eagles were known for its poor secondary. Last year really showed that eagles were willing to go bpa. Last year they picked Logan even though Sopoaga came in FA, picked Ertz even with Celek and Casey came in FA, picked Barkley even though Foles and Vick were on roster.

      What frustrates me is that national mock drafts are guessing that eagles will force a need so badly that they mock to eagles a player that doesn’t make the big board list of best 32 players.

  • cliff henny

    good, the more i saw mock drafts with CB at #22, more certain i am it’ll be something else. i’ll be shocked if it isnt olb or wr

    • GEAGLE

      No shot in hell that it’s a CB at 22..as in 0.000% chance

      • cliff henny

        doubtful for sure. pretty sure kelly is staring at those WRs names. you might be able to talk him into olb, since he’s repeatively said how imprortant qb pressure is. evry coach values position differently, reid barely knew lbs existed. i dont think kelly is at a reid’s level w cbs, but do think he believes front 7 makes cbs.

        • GEAGLE

          When a CB with a 2nd or 3rd round grade falls to rounds 4-5, that’s when we will draft a CB

          • Honest_T

            If we draft a Safety the can cover the slot it also frees Boykin up to move outside if we choose.

          • anon

            Boykin is never moving outside. Even Rocky C. plays outside before him.

          • Richard Colton

            Not downvoting you – it’s for Roc Carmichael

          • anon

            haha. Yeah i was going to put a parenthetical hoping that he’s not here next year. Not sure where that CB depth should come from draft / FA, but given that Fletcher was often out we need someone better back there.

          • Richard Colton

            We really aren’t deep enough – but you can say that for a lot of positions on the Eagles.

          • Richard Colton

            Like Poyer in round 7? I don’t like Dennard. And like you, I think plugging CB in at #22 to the Eagles is a lazy mock, but I’d put the odds at a CB in rounds 1-4 a little higher than you.

          • GEAGLE

            More like Boykin in round 4…whoa, I think CB in round 3 more likely 4 is a real possibility…just no shot of spending our first two picks on one

          • Richard Colton

            I don’t remember Boykin having a 2nd round grade. Maybe he did. Im not as down on CB in round one or two as you & Token. Not my preference obviously, but depending on how Free Agency and the next 3 months shake out, I think I can be persuaded.

          • GEAGLE

            Ain’t getting Orakpo. If we don’t get Ward/Byrd let’s see how ok you are with corner early :). Especially when Kelvin Benjamin or Evans are still on the board

          • Richard Colton

            Fire Sale!

            Birds trade down in round one with Cleveland for the #26 and Cleveland’s second rounder. With the #26 pick – they select CB Jason Verrett (who Howie insists was the 1st CB on their board…”we were just astonished he was there” blushed Roseman). With Cleveland’s pick, birds take OLB KVN. With their own 2nd rounder, OLB Dee Ford.

            Let’s say it pans out that way – are you OK with that?

          • anon

            I want a WR, but that’d be great. Don’t see CLE trading, i think they have 5 picks in the first 2 rounds.

          • Richard Colton

            Or anyone…or no trade at all…just trying to point out that there are scenarios where we don’t necessarily go OLB/WR/ILB/S in round 1 & 2 and still have a great draft. I mean, I know there’s a scenario we WANT to happen. But sitting at what? #22 and #54? We need to be at least a little reactive.

          • anon

            I’d be fine trading back, especially if top prospects at positions are gone (OLB, WR, DT) if we can get an extra 2nd or third.

    • dmancine9

      why is everyone against a CB in the 1st round?

      • GEAGLE

        Because it’s not realistic

        • dmancine9

          because top CBs will be gone by 22? and no need to reach to fill a “need?”

          • GEAGLE

            Where do I start…first of all, “analysts” suck this time of year, remember all the months they wasted talking about the eagles drafting Dee friggin Milner at 4?

            CB isn’t that great in this class. Not that it’s not great, but you can find comperable in round 4 to what you will find at 22. Plus CBs suck as rookie. This draft also happens to be really strong at 22 in terms of MAJOR HOLES like OLB, which is way more important and valued in a 3-4 then a CB is. Not to mention we have an offensive guru in a draft where there will be OLB sized freak WR athletes on the board at 22. I’m desperate enough for OLB, and is gotta worry about these freak physical specimen WR prospects being too enticing for our coach to pass on. There is so much better value in this class to be had then a CB at 22. If we had 3 first round picks, I still probably wouldn’t draft a corner….it’s just a lazy, dumb, clueless, “analyst” opinion…not reality

          • dmancine9

            well said- at this point, I hope we draft OLB or WR in the 1st, sign a FS or SS in free agency, and draft a CB in the later rounds to develop behind Williams, Fletcher, and Boykin.

          • GEAGLE

            When we see a CB that we have a 2nd or 3rd round grade fall to round 4 or 5, that’s when we will draft a CB

          • dmancine9

            which OLB’s do you like in this draft?

          • GEAGLE

            So many yummy ones: Barr is falling out of top 10..how far is the question. Kony Ealy, Dee Ford, Attachou, Van Noy

            Really want Deone Buchannon…I just want him a lot more in round 3, then round 2..Big,hard hitting safety!

          • Token

            Van Noy seems like a real bad pick in the 1st. Are you viewing him as Ryans replacement? Hes just not a pass rusher. If we were playing a 4-3 maybe hes fine as your OLB.

          • GEAGLE

            Yup..I don’t love him at 22 either…but if you wanna trade back to 30, now he becomes sexy after AQUIRING and extra pick..but yeah. I’d use him at OLB while Meco is here, maybe sub in for Meco in Nickle…but when Meco leaves, he takes over at ILB next to Kendrick. Real smart,physical,sheds block,blitzes,Covers…

          • Richard Colton

            He may not be there at #22- Detroit at 10 is a real possibility. High character guy – leadership for a defense that really needs some. If they envision him having the ability to back up all 4 LB spots in year one, then move to ILB or LOLB down the road? I’d be OK with that justification.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I’m not familiar enough with Ealy, don’t know I’d put him above the other 3, but I’d absolutely take Ford/Attaboy/KVN in the 1st. Also like Lynch/Tripp/Barrow in the later rounds.

          • Richard Colton

            Kony looks a bit stiff for 3-4 OLB. Think I’d rather have Ford or ATAT at this point. Not sure if 22 is too high for those guys. Prince Shembo is a project we might look at after round 4 (Howie did talk about getting two OLBs).

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Lynch is my late-round crush. HUGE frame, had good production at ND, transferred home because of what appeared to be home-sickness (the transfer seems to raise a flag to some mockers/scouts, dunno why). USF isn’t exactly FCS competition. I think him + Azz would do wonders.

          • Richard Colton

            I’m not even going to search him Rob, I’ll just wait for him to show up in the second round of everyone’s Mock just like your last “late round gem” -Morgan Moses.

          • GEAGLE

            Morgan Moses is going round 1..dude shutdown attaboy,I think van Noy, and another big name just this year

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            :(

          • Richard Colton

            theycallmeMOCKBUSTER

          • GEAGLE

            Sorry, your eye for talent was a little too good in this case

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob
          • Richard Colton

            you suckered me in. What are you thinking for Lynch? 5th? 7th? or UDFA?

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            One of the 2 5th rd picks. He has great talent and size, just not the right attitude and of course the transfer situation. Don’t think he’s going undrafted. But could be a huge gem, high risk-high reward.

          • GEAGLE

            But I would want a kid like that being the second OLB we drafted this year..haven’t gotten around to watching him tho

          • GEAGLE

            Ealy could end up being a high riser. Some think he will come out of the combine smelling like the next Aldon smith…hear that the NFL is drastically higher on him then the mock community. He is someone who’s combine should be very important for us…if he is even still on the board at 22…Ealy was basically Dee fOrd before the senior bowl

      • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

        (1) none of them are so good they’ll step in day 1 and play lights out
        (2) have 2 adequate starters under contract who will play even better with a good safety and pass rush
        (3) recent 1st rd corners haven’t exactly played well, let alone made a huge difference
        (4) chances are BPA won’t be a CB at 22

        • dmancine9

          S, OLB or WR in the 1st? I like the S outta Louisville and Benjamin outta FSU.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I see some flaws in Pryor’s game, I don’t like the idea of him in the 1st only because I don’t want him started day 1 (***unless Byrd or Ward are signed). I think HaHa is more well-rounded and developed at the moment, and some day 2 guys could be great as well (Joyner and Ward).
            OLB or WR are definitely where I see the most talent and likelihood of availability.

          • dmancine9

            I like HaHa over Pryor as well, just think he’s gone before 22nd pick. Actually, I hope we sign Byrd or Ward and draft OLB or WR

          • GEAGLE

            I think Pryor is the first safety drafted

          • Token

            Whats your run down on Pryor?

            Seems like HaHa is a more sound overall player. Trys to wrap up when tackling.

            Pryor seems like the traditional big hit at all costs type safety. Just throwing a shoulder around. Cant say that guy excites me anymore. The NFL is going to put those guys out of work.

            Coverage first. Sure tackler. So you view Pryor to be that?

          • GEAGLE

            Think haha is overrated due to name brand…

            If we are going to talk about safety prospect deficiencies, then we ain’t finding any finished products ready to step in and be Earl Thomas day one…They will all need to improve in areas, but I do believe Pryor and Buchanon are physical specimen playmakers who can grow into big hitters who are solid in Coverage. people talk about cam Chancellor as just an enforcer which isn’t the case, dude does his thing in coverage, you just remember his skull rattling hits…not all hard hitting safeties are destined to be merrywhether,Bernard pollard! Witner penalty magnet types. I really really think with two years of coaching Pryor and Buchanon can be the answer

          • Token

            Maybe. But throwing your shoulder whenever you tackle isnt a good sign. Thats a tough thing to fix. You gotta remember the kids coaches throughout college have likely been trying to make him tackle correctly and it hasnt helped. I can just see a number of his hits bouncing off some NFL players resulting in a big gain. I just dont like my safeties being shoulder tacklers. I was sure stoppers. I dont need the flash.

          • GEAGLE

            Buchannon does not just throw his shoulder, dude will blast you the right way. That’s who I really really want. Him falling to round 3 is probably my dream scenario..I consider him in round 2, but have to see who is available..

          • Token

            I cant speak to him, I havent watched him. Was talking about Pryor.

          • GEAGLE

            Big boy, with coverage range, INTercepted Kelly coached QBs 3 times, played 3 years of special teams, basically the same size as FSU LB Telvin… Playmaking physical specimen that Nate isn’t! I want that kid and love that he played in Chips conference. Knack for hard hitting without racking up penalties

          • Token

            Dont Alabama secondary players not fair well in the NFL? Or maybe thats just corners.

            I really hope S is solved in FA.

            Pryor seems like a kid that will be a penalty magnet in the NFL and/or get himself injured. A lot of hit he throws may not even be tackles in the league against some big boys. Needs to wrap up. My initial thought is I dont want him. I dont want a safety whose main skill is big hits. That type of guy is becoming a dinosaur in the NFL now.

            Plus if you are figuring on Wolff starting, he fills your role as the guy who can play in the box and blitz pretty well. The new safety must excel at coverage first and foremost. Has to be able to play single high. Play center field.

          • GEAGLE

            Just CBs really…Saban makes them crab walk instead Of back peddling…who the hell wants a corner that didn’t backpeddle much in college? Still can’t believe paid analysts had the clueless audacity to Mock Dee Milner to us at #4 for months.. Mark Barron seemed to turn out ok

          • GEAGLE

            I think I may like Wolff more in centerfield. Nice Range…which is why I’m starting to lean towards the Pryor,Buchanon,Ward route, as opposed to the Byrd,Jimmy Ward, haha type

          • Token

            I cant see it. Range sure, but he doesnt have the coverage instincts. Wolff seems more comfortable playing the run and blitzing.

            I think if hes their answer for center field we have a big problem.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I think the instincts can be taught and improved. He’s not clueless. Had some great moments, esp. in the red zone (coverage on Cruz and I believe Dez). Already improved a lot from college to last year. But yes, not a “true” centerfield guy.

          • Token

            True. His college tape is pretty bad. Bad reads, angles. He did look better last year, but we had such a limited sample size. My worry with him now is that hes a headcase. The way this injury thing went down was really strange. But im fine with penciling him in at one S spot.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            I don’t think so at all. Judging from some of the other injury cases this year (the mum on Barkley in the summer; the quiet re: Nick and Vick early when both were getting banged up; how there was no mention of Polk until he just got surgery), I think Wolff was just much worse than they let on. Secretive coaching staff. Probably reinjured it in the CHI game and they didn’t want another Allen situation on their hands. I think they were content on the idea that, if Chung or Allen cost them a game/season, so be it. The whole secondary was a hope and prayer in ’13.

          • Token

            Jeff McLane said the Eagles wanted and cleared him to play for the last few games. He just refused to play.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            hadn’t seen that. dunno what the story is behind it. nothing in his past or otherwise this season seemed to imply he played scared.
            something to keep an eye on next year. But that, along with other factors, is exactly why I’m not penciling him in as a starter next year- especially not with a rookie next to him!

          • GEAGLE

            Played an entire college season with a jacked up shoulder…friggin glad he was shutdown for the year

          • anon

            I’d like to see him come off the bench as well. It’s unclear how good he is, given limited playing time and expectations of safety play on this team.

          • anon

            Yeah real cagey on injuries — i’d add chung’s shoulder to the list.

          • anon

            Not much area to cover in the red zone.

          • GEAGLE

            Sure seemed to have coverage instinct when he locked down frigging Antonio gates with that redzone PBU…rookie safety on an island in the redzone against a nightmare cover for a rookie in crafty veteran gates……

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Barron seems to be doing just fine. Think it’s more CBs, due to the whole backpedal training (or lack thereof)
            We were talking about Pryor a bit on Tommy’s blog yesterday. He’s not a great form tackler. Even with Buchannon, when he hits hard he’s still doing it correctly. And Pryor also shows some of the same angle issues that Wolff had in college. I think he’s good, but slightly overrated at the moment.
            And of course, louisville competition < 'bama competition.

            Could not agree more with your last paragraph. That's why I like HaHa more, but also guys like Ward and Joyner. If the LBs are huge, especially if they get bigger at ILB and someone bigger than Cole, I can live with 1 smaller DB in Nickel or Dime packages (Boykin and Ward/Joyner wouldn't be on the field in the base, and they're both playmakers that you want on the field in passing downs, moreso than a Pollard/Pryor/Wolff/in-the-box guy. Ward can also cover slot guys and TEs, like what they wanted from Chung last year.

          • Cspangler

            Hopefully they get Byrd or Ward and a high pick at S. Then Wolff can be moved to special tms. He is a liability

          • Richard Colton

            Ward/Ward would be a great safety combo, name-wise. Make everyone forget about the disaster that was Henry/Henery.

        • Token

          Joe Haden and Peterson are pretty damn good players. What overall impact have they had on their teams? Corner as a premium position is dead.

          Other than our obvious needs at S and OLB. Id take a WR or ILB before a corner. I think they have a bigger impact.

          • http://www.corcommunity.com/ theycallmerob

            Could not agree more. And as you said, neither caliber player is available this draft. There are guys in the 4th/5th just as likely to be studs by ’15 as guys “mocked” to go in the 1st.

          • GEAGLE

            Teams have so many pass catching weapons..they got 3-4 capable WRs, TEs…what good is investing heavily in 1 CB?

          • anon

            Talent eval in the secondary hasn’t been great on this team in a long time. Maybe gamble changes that but i’d rather just go to FA, plenty of decent guys there. I wouldn’t be offended if we took another middle of the road guy — we could re-unite fletcher and finnegan.

          • GEAGLE

            Strength of Gambles Niners team was the front 7…notice they let their big name safeties walk

      • Token

        Corner just isnt as important anymore IMO. I wouldnt spend a 1st on one. If it was a Patrick Peterson id be tempted. But this crop isnt close to that.

        You just need solid corners that fit your scheme well. I dont care if theres all pros at that position.

        Ive read people are worried Dennard cant play off coverage.

        • Bdawkbdawk

          I think “tempted” is a bit of an understatement.

  • Token

    A corner or a OL in the 1st is probably my worst case scenario at this point.

    • Richard Colton

      not as important a need, but if they get a good player at either of those positions, you’ll be happy. If they get a great player – CB or OL at #22, you’ll be ecstatic. So will I. Not excited about Dennard though – I agree with you there.

    • anon

      Its really annoying. Someone mock a WR to us!!!

      • JBShakes

        There are a bunch of mocks with 1st round WRs – Walter Football is mocking Allen Robinson from PSU, and I think Matt Miller’s got them taking Marqise Lee. Personally, I’d love to see them grab Louis Nix to play NT – I feel like the pass rush as a whole would take a big jump upward if there was a guy in the middle that could consistently collapse the pocket.

        • Jarrod

          I agree that I would like a guy like Nix on our team. Just not sure I would want a guy who was only going to play 50% of the snaps in the first round.

          • JBShakes

            I don’t think Nix is a 2-down player at all. He’s got enough quickness to play 1-tech in nickel situations, especially if they wanted to move Cox inside and let him play 3-tech with Cole (or a new edge rusher) and Curry playing DE.

        • anon

          Agree with this point, but 1st round is high to take a NT when we have Big Benny Logan, rather just get a fat FA.

          • JBShakes

            Look, I like Benny Logan, but I think it’s pretty clear his ceiling is “very good rotational guy”, especially considering he’s got some versatility to play both inside and outside in this scheme. But when you’ve got a true NT who can play with impact on running downs (think Casey Hampton, Vince Wilfork, Jay Ratliff when the Cowboys still ran a 3-4) who doesn’t have to come off the field on passing downs, it dramatically improves the front seven.

            Nix’s stock took a bit of a hit this year because of health issues, but he was THE impact guy on a Notre Dame defense that single-handedly took the team to the BCS title game in 2012. Without Nix, Mantei Te’o isn’t a first-round draft pick. Look what Star Lotulelei did for the Panthers defense this year – or what having Haloti Ngata has done to keep the Ravens defense in contention despite all of the personnel losses they’ve had.

  • theedevilsadvocate

    the eagles should have won that superbowl weapon x deserved that win in his home town… hate thinking about that damn super bowl…

    • cheapmeat

      I watched that game with a Pats fan. I would have strangled them, if I wasn’t so depressed.

      That game ended so poorly that I had ex-girlfriends texting me – that hated me – telling me how bad they felt that the Eagles lost.

  • Joe from Easton

    Damn I wish BDawk would’ve gotten that Ring. I almost wanted it more for him than any other player or fan. He was always a class act and constantly one of the best in the league during his time. He’s the definition of a HOF’er.

    • Andy124

      Heck with that. I wanted it for me. :)

      • peteike

        One of those teams shouldve taken it home. The Panthers and Bucs games were just brutal losses. We let Delhomme beat us and some cb named Ricky Manning Jr, ugh, nightmares

        • Andy124

          Panthers got away with completely mugging our recievers all game long. At least it was consistent. They were allowed to play that way pretty much all of that season for whatever reason.

          The Barber pic-6 to thwart our comeback against the Bucs still ranks #1 for my all time most frustrating moment in football.

        • JBShakes

          People make the Panthers loss out to be worse than it was. No Westbrook (hurt in week 16), no Carlos Emmons (hurt in week 17), McNabb cracks his sternum in the 1st quarter. You can be as frustrated as you want about the Bucs loss (sometimes I still see Joe f’n Jurevicius running when I close my eyes), but the Panthers loss was mostly just sh*tty luck.

  • peteike

    the flip side to what Dawkins said is maybe having too much fun that week, or even worse, too distracted. So there has to be a balance, I heard a former player say that the most important part is to come out and play fast from the start because the game goes by really fast.

    Of course Vick will come in most likely as a 2nd option but that doesnt mean he cant win the job as the starter during camp. Guy still has plenty of game left and he has improved a ton since his early days. Just depends what team he goes to, my wild card team is the rams but I could see Vikings or Texans even.

    • CSpangler

      How can you have game left when you never had any to start with. Horrible numbers and record as a starting QB. The fact that clueless people still talk about him as a possible starter is mind boggling. How do you rate a QB who isnt accurate and cant read defenses?

    • GEAGLE

      Texans? You do realized they hired Bill Obrien right?

  • Kev_H

    Vick will be back! I said it 1,000 times and Pasquarelli’s report indicates there are no starting opportunities for him. I think there are even fewer back-up opportunities, since it isn’t worth it to deal with all the fan outcry and distraction (something the Eagles have already been through) for a back-up QB.

    • anon

      Yeah he’s delusional if he things he’ll get paid to start.

  • anon

    Someone said we could go after Giants CB stevie brown. He might actually be a good choice. Torn ACL this year but last year (2012) he had 8 picks (2nd in the league), 2 FF in 10 starts (16 games played).

    I don’t know if all of those picks game against the TO prone 2012 eagles.

    • NickS1

      We all know Howie has a weak spot for some torn ACLs.

      • anon

        He has weak knees for weak knees?

      • CSpangler

        Well dude you dont pick up steals off the All-Pro pile. No complaints about Evan Mathis I take it ?

        • NickS1

          It’s actually just a joke dude, because, recently, Howie has quite the soft spot for players with ACL/other knee injuries. Did Mathis tear his ACL the season before he came here?

  • Wiztopher

    How many of you think the Pats had tape on us during that SB? That last McNabb INT intended for Westy, there was about 3 patriot defenders around him. Granted, he never should have thrown into coverage, but one can only wonder if Belichick skeezed out a win with the spygatin’…