Foles Wins Pro Bowl MVP

NFL: Pro Bowl

With the game tied at 14 in the fourth quarter, Deion Sanders thought about pulling Nick Foles from the Pro Bowl.

“Offensively, I know drafting young quarterbacks it was gonna be a dilemma,” Sanders said during a TV interview on NBC. “But I know I have [Andrew] Luck. And he’s with his scheme. So if we have to go back to Luck, we gotta go back to Luck.”


Ultimately, Sanders decided to stick with Foles, and the Eagles' signal-caller rewarded him by engineering a five-play, 57-yard drive to give his team the lead. Foles delivered a beautiful ball to Steelers wide receiver Antonio Brown down the right sideline for 39 yards. He then found Browns tight end Jordan Cameron for a 12-yard TD.

Overall, Foles went 7-for-10 for 89 yards and a touchdown in the losing effort. He earned Offensive MVP honors, which meant a new GMC Denali.

"It's kind of surreal to be standing here with the MVP," Foles said, per the team's Web site. "All of the guys did a great job. I'm just glad to be here representing the Philadelphia Eagles and all of my teammates."

In other Eagles news, DeSean Jackson hauled in a 36-yard touchdown from Andrew Luck in between defenders in the first quarter.

LeSean McCoy ran three times for 14 yards, but reportedly left the game with an ankle injury.

And Evan Mathis was the fourth Eagles representative. He and McCoy were on Team Rice, while Jackson and Foles played for Team Sanders.

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  • GEAGLE

    Sheil, did McManus insist you be the one to write this article? Must have been painful to see Nick hoist another accolade. Still waiting for the “law of averages” to bring the kid back down to earth.. I’m waiting….,

    • ray jay

      lol. Wake me up when accomplishing something in the Pro Bowl means ANYTHING.

      • Token

        We are all pretty sure that Ray Jay is #7 right?

        • GEAGLE

          Duh….who else is that lame?

        • cliff henny

          com’on, we all know Foles couldnt even beat a back-up qb in a meaningless game.

      • jshort

        Means a free ride.

    • aub32

      All Tim did was tell people to relax. Foles had an amazing season. There’s no denying that. However, you have people here saying he’s going to be the next Brady. That’s a huge leap. One year does not a franchise QB make. What happens next year if Foles struggles against the NFCW? There’s nothing wrong with tempered expectations. We all want Foles to suceed. Some just aren’t ready to elevate him until they see him do it after defenses have time to game plan and he faces better competition.

      • GEAGLE

        No no no…Tim threw away what his eyes were seeing, and expected this kid to fail every single week, because his eyes just had to be deceiving him.. No way brick foot FOles could possibly be that good. Obviously he didn’t hold his breathe …and I’m not interested in reading worthless predictions from people who couldn’t even see that we would have a good front 7 this year..Tim provides some of the best analysis, but his predictions prove laughable on a weekly basis.. Sorry, real talk.. Sheils prediction game is way more advanced,,,because he basis it on what his eyes see, instead of refusing to believe his eyes, and provide an opinion tainted by classic Negadelphians..like a give a crap that HOying and Kolb failed..slow white guy, few good games, were have I seen this before? That’s just crap

        And no one has to elevate, they talk about him for what he is doing on the field…and that’s BOSS status whether you care to believe your eyes or not…just watch next year. Just watch

        • aub32

          First off, Kolb wasn’t some slow white guy. He is probably closer to Alex Smith than he is to Foles athletically. So there’s that. Second, our front 7 weren’t all the beastly. Kendricks was up and down. We still have questions at NT, and we have a below average ROLB, and I love Cole. Facts are facts. Also, did you ever listen to the podcast? Tim bought into Foles long before Sheil. Tim was driving the Foles bandwagon. He tempered expectations after seeing the last couple of games. You can fuss all you want, but if you want “real talk” than be honest about the last two games. Foles came up short in the biggest two games. Was he awful? No. However, he did perform below expectations. That’s real talk. There’s no way you can honestly tell me you thought Foles had two good games to finish the season. They were, by the standards he set, mediocre if not below. So it does raise questions when one looks back and sees he played against some of the weakest defenses in the league and did not beat a single playoff team (GB is not a playoff team w/o Rodgers).

          • Brian

            How many playoff teams did he play against in the regular season?

          • aub32

            I am not knocking him for beating the teams on the schedule. I am saying that’s a valid reason for skepticism. Some of you act like acknowledging the facts is a slight against Foles. I pointed out a fact. I am not blaming Foles for the schedule. However, it does raise quesions when he did not have a stellar performance against the one playoff team he faced and struggled until they lost their second starting safety.

          • BirdGang

            I agree with everything you are saying. I think it is sad that some people let their love of a player blind them to their flaws or lack or resume. I dont think you ever once said Nick Foles is a bad QB…but for some reason if you arent saying how good Foles (or FOles) is then you are taking a shot at him. I think people need to wait and see with this kid. He has a awesome year…but if he doesnt play this well next year what will we say? I am just excited for once we will go into camp knowing who our QB is.

          • ar_eagles

            It is one thing to comment on the things Foles needs to improve on, because he will always have those things that need improvement. aub, however, has a long history of discrediting Foles’ accomplishments and harshly critiquing the flaws he does have. That is not going to be welcome in a fanbase that has it’s first legitimate reason to be excited since the early McNabb-Reid years. We’re excited and some will go overboard. But there is no need for aub’s type of “objectivity” especially since everyone who reads this site with any regularity knows he is not being objective with Foles

          • aub32

            So because I didn’t jump on Foles the moment he took the reigns I am a Foles hater. Look at what some of these same Foles’ fan boys said after the Dallas game. I have maintained my position of being skeptical and always reasoned my logic with football. I will not after one season put Foles in the same breath as HOFers, and for that you suggest I am hating on our QB. I have never once said Foles was a bad QB. I called him limited physically. That’s a legitimate criticism and something that can be overcome. I want Foles to turn out to be the next great QB, and when he is gone I want his replacement to be even greater. I just choose not to live in the land of make believe. Any fan can call our entire roster great. That’s easy. If they are right they have bragging rights about seeing greatness when others were being negative. If they are wrong they can call you a hater and not a true fan because you were “rooting against your own player”. That’s stupid. I am critical of every player. Sorry that your and others’ feelings are hurt because you want to wear rose colored glasses.

          • GEAGLE

            What did I say after the Dallas game? I LIKE FOles because I saw all the signs of a good future, and believed we had the coaches to cultivate it…don’t get mad at me, because I know what to look for in young players. 90% of the people who talk football don’t even realistically know what to look for or what they are seeing. If people don’t know hand placement, foot placement, and all the little nuances required t play different positions how can they expect to give valid oppinions? I’m sorry, you can have general knowledge as a fan, but it’s just IMPOSSIBLE to really know what to look for and know how to interpret what you are seeing if you never played the game or coached it…It’s impossible, Sure you can watch Lane Johnson get beat by Orakpo, but the average person isn’t going to know why Lane got beat. Did he step too far to the left, were his hands to high up, did his punch land in the wrong spot, his the weight distribution off, did he kick step?
            ….
            If you know the nuances of the position, you can watch Lane get beat and see why he got beat, and then you can know if it’s something that’s easily corrected or if it’s a physical limitation that will be difficult to overcome…you got people giving oppinion and they have NO CLUE about the technique required to be successful…Les Bowan can’t tell you what a 5 Tec is required to do and how it changes from one scheme to another…people with oppinions can’t even tell you the difference between lining up shading an OG to the left, lining up head on, shading him to the right, and the differences,that each way of lining up require…

            If you know why a player is making mistakes you can have a good idea of if we can expect it to be corrected and improve, or if it’s going to be something difficult for that player to overcome…Football is such a crazy sport where everyone loves it, everyone generally understands it, but most of the people are in the dark,because they don’t know what technique is required on each play to even be successful…and it gets even more complicated when you do know what to look for, but you still don’t know what the play call really was..

            You think I honestly just guessed that we would have a good front 7 arguining to the death with everyone who said otherwise? You think I guessed that Connar Barwin would be a player we like? Think I just guessed that Cary Williams wasn’t as bad as people thought? Did I just guess that Kendrick would be a player? Why do I like Nick FOles? He is a friggim dork. Why do I like him and not Barkley? Because FOles showed me something, Barkley didn’t…

          • aub32

            Who mentioned you? I am not shy about mentioning people on this blog and reminding them what they said. I spoke in general, because there were many who wanted Foles gone after the Dallas game. Everything is not about you dude.

          • Maggie

            It’s no good being logical sometimes. There are people who don’t or can’t think logically when they are so emotionally caught up.

          • Brian

            I guess when I read an objective point about not beating playoff teams, I expect to see the counterpoint as well. The counterpoint, in this case, is that the Cardinals, Lions, Bears, and Cowboys missed the playoffs, in large part, because they lost to the Eagles in December. You can’t beat teams that you don’t play. Criticizing Nick Foles for not beating a playoff team, is like criticizing Amtrak for not dropping you off at the Linc.

          • aub32

            It was not a criticism. It was and is a fact. I have said numerous times that my bringing up the schedule is not a slight toward Foles. It’s just something he has yet to do. None of the youn QBs we talk about have yet to win a SB. Does that mean they suck? No. It’s something that we have yet to see them do, and they still need to prove they can do it before being called a champ. Similarly, Foles needs to beat some of the better teams, or at least put on one of his better performances in order to take anoter step toward becoming one of the top QBs in the league.

          • Brian

            Hopefully he’ll improve next season, along with the rest of the team. No doubt we’re playing more than a couple playoff teams. He, and the team, should be capable of winning their share of those matchups.

          • bill

            It’s good to temper expectations. Just make sure there isn’t a double standard at work. If you call Foles’s game against NO in the playoffs “below mediocre,” Wilson’s game against the same defense in the playoffs was “historically bad.”
            Of course, it could just be that no one is giving the Ryan-led Saints D enough credit, and Foles had a good game, and Wilson had a mediocre to below mediocre game.
            The ultimate take-home I have from that game is that Foles led his team to 24 points, and left the field with the lead, in the playoffs. To expect to put up more than 24 points in the playoffs is a recipe for losing, and, in the end, Foles put them in a position to win, despite his running back basically going MIA for the game (unlike Lynch, who repeatedly made plays in his game). Mediocre I can say is reasonable to describe his game (I don’t necessarily agree), “below mediocre” is, well, indicative of a bias, especially if one does not describe Wilson’s game against the same D one week later as “historically bad.”

          • aub32

            I really don’t get where this notion of bias comes from? I did not mention Wilson. I never said Wilson played well against the Saints. I was talking about Foles. My point was Foles played a playoff team and looked mediocre or below compared to what was expected. He failed to take advantage of a stellar defensive effort in the first half and struggled in the second until the opposing safety left with a head injury. I’m sure that if I were to have told you and others that the Eagles held Brees to 6 points and two TOs you would all think we would have been leading by no fewer than 10 going into the half. If you wish me to acknowledge Wilson, yes he had a bad game against the Saints. I can’t speak about the details because I did not watch the entire game. However, one game does not make a QB a failure or an all time great. Wilson has had two winning seasons in which he won at least one playoff game. He plays in the toughest division in football yet had the best record in the league. He just made the SB. That trumps one great season in which a QB faced bad teams almost all year long. Foles has yet to have a big game vs a big opponent. Kaep has done that. So has Wilson. Foles was ok, but he’s going to need that one game where he plays really well against one of the top teams in the league before he gets the kudos some fans are crying about.

          • bill

            Fine, but a historically bad game (not just bad, but historically bad), in a pressure situation, is nothing to write off casually, either. And of course, as you so eloquently pointed out above, it’s much easier for both of those guys to be (perceived as) good, as they have the 2 best defenses in the league helping them out and taking all the pressure off of them.

          • bill

            How’d that GB defense do against Canton-bound Kaepernick? As far as I know, Rodgers doesn’t play d, so while I agree GB is not a playoff team without him, I struggle to see how that would affect how well the defense played.

          • aub32

            The offense helps the defense and vice versa. Everyone knows that. If Rodgers is playing and moving the ball, then that means his defense is spending less time on the field. If Rodgers scores early and often, then that means the game is taken out of Shady’s hands and more in Foles. You’re right that Rodgers doesn’t play safety. However, I think you are smart enough to understand that a QB as good as Rodgers has the ability to change an opposing team’s entire gameplan.

          • Andy124

            The offense helps the defense and vice versa. Everyone knows that.
            But if you acknowledge that, it makes Kaep and Wilson look far less impressive.

          • aub32

            HAHAHA I don’t even know what to make of that comment. I don’t even see how that applies. I am not saying that Kaep or Wilson are the next Manning and Brady. I said the guys are good. I said that what they have done for their career eclipses what Foles has done thus far. That’s why they are more highly regarded. This isn’t a case of which QB is the best. All 3 have small sample sizes. All 3 play in very different systems and are asked to do different things. Here’s what I am saying:

            1. Kaep and Wilson both had success from day one. Foles won1 game in his first 7 in 2012. So therefore, Foles’ legacy (or whatever you want to call it) started in the negatives.

            2. Foles isn’t the focus on offense. Foles has to compete for headlines against Kelly’s schemes and Shady being the best non QB player in the NFL. Meanwhile, Wilson doesn’t have good weapons. Kaep seemingly made Crabtree last year. They both were seen as the best offensive weapons on their respective teams (partly due to injuries to Harvin and Crab)

            3. Both Kaep and Wilson won 10+ games in the hardest division in football. They beat some of the best teams on the biggest of stages and each lead their teams to post season success and a SB birth. Meanwhile, Foles took over an offense with a perceived offensive genius, the best RB in the league, and won a terrible division. His biggest games, though they can’t be dismissed came against Oakland and a meaningless game against the Bears. In my opinion, 7 TDs is 7 TDs. However, let’s not kid ourselves. Doing great things against terrible teams isn’t going to result in the recognition we as Eagles’ fans think he deserves.

            4. How many times did fans and media members say “wait until defenses get a chance to watch Kaep and Wilson”? That was all anyone talked about. So how does Foles get a pass? How is it fair that we should not be skeptical of Foles before he does it again?

          • ar_eagles

            I will not continue to beat a dead horse, because it is obvious, and has been all year, that you do not like Foles. You constantly discredit everything he has accomplished and that’s fine, we all have our preferences for who we think is good and who is not. But you should try not to act so incredulous when you see Eagles fans getting excited about a good, improving, young QB. That’s what fans do.

            Maybe if you just accept that he’s not what you would prefer to see, but acknowledge that he is still good then you could enjoy the ride with the rest of us. Either way, we’re going to have fun watching Nick grow into whatever he becomes, and I’ll try not to take to much glee from him making people like you eat your words.

            As for your 7 td comment, I’ll not stand here and try to convince you that Oakland was good this year, however, they played 16 teams (including the great Peyton Manning twice) and only one team and one QB threw 7 td’s against them. That is not an easy thing to accomplish, and it’s even harder to discredit, so you should really stop trying.

          • Andy124

            I’ll say this in aub’s defense, if the worst thing he still has to say is, “I want to see another year of it to feel confident” which is what all the criticisms boil down to, it’s not exactly the craziest thing anyone has ever said.

            I think it’s pretty difficult to keep track of exactly who said exactly what, and so people can get associated with comments made by other, similar posters. I’m not saying that you’re 100% wrong, it’s just something to keep in mind.

          • ar_eagles

            You are correct, Andy. And I didn’t mean to make it seem like I was attacking aub32. It is frustrating to see so many people disregard Foles accomplishments and it is easy to confuse people when there is so much vehemence on both sides. And I certainly agree we need to see Nick continue to be successful over a longer period of time.

            I guess my main point is, lets just enjoy the ride. We should not be discrediting his achievements for sure, but we also should not demean other QB’s to build Nick up. Mainly because his play builds him up quite nicely on its own.

            We don’t know what the future holds, and we may disagree on what this team needs/doesn’t need or should or should not do, but I think we can all agree that the Eagles are fun to watch again. That is in large part thanks to Nick and Chip, and I can’t help but feel optimistic about the future. Hope everyone can agree on that point at least.

          • Andy124

            Yup. I’ll add that a little homerism is good for the soul, especially on an Eagles blog. I’ve been seeing that term thrown around as an insult lately and I find it to be rather silly.

          • aub32

            When did I discredit Foles? And I think you will have a hard time finding a fan who enjoyed the season more than I did. I have no preference on the type of QB. You and others make that mistake because in the beginning of the year I wanted Vick. That’s because I thought Vick was the better QB and could do more with Shady and DJax. I wasn’t wrong. Vick was doing well in this offense and had both Shady and D Jax playing at a high level. After Foles took over I never pounded the table for Vick to come back. Please try and keep my actual views away from what other said.

          • Andy124

            It really applies more to previous conversations. You’ve taken exception when others have pointed out that Wilson and Kaep are the beneficiaries of stud defenses.

            If Foles isn’t the focus on offense, then Kaep and Wilson must be completly irrelevant to their by comparison. Both played smaller roles in their O’s than Foles. And I don’t think Kaep “made” Crabtree any more than Crabtree “makes” Kaep.

            Kaep and Wilson did not win 10+ games, their teams did. We’ve agreed many times that wins are not an individual statistic.

            I’ve said multiple times that the one “hoop to jump through” that media and posters like to come up with for Foles that I feel is actually legit is the test of time.

          • OldDocRoss

            I agree with some of what you say, but disagree 1 billion % on these:

            Kaep seemingly made Crabtree last year.

            Crabtree in first 8 games of 2012 – 39 catches for 440 yards (11.3 avg)
            Crabtree in second 8 games of 2012 – 46 for 665 (14.5 avg)

            Vernon Davis in first 8 games of 2012 – 25 catches, 374 yards (15.0 avg)
            Vernon Davis in second 8 games of 2012 – 16 for 174 (10.9 avg)

            If he made Crabtree, he broke Vernon Davis. Or more likely Alex Smith just favoured Davis as a target and Kaepernick favoured Crabtree.

            They both were seen as the best offensive weapons on their respective teams (partly due to injuries to Harvin and Crab)

            Beast Mode! Also Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree and Randy Moss (albeit 2012 Randy Moss) have helped Kaep at various points.

            I’m curious how much you watched the 49ers and Seahawks live this year? I mean that as a serious question by the way, not in the tw@ty way people usually ask on the interwebs. I watched each about six or seven times in the regular season and I thought defences were generally keying first and foremost on shutting down the run against both.

          • aub32

            I watched at least 10 SF games. I watched maybe 6 SEA. As far as SEA, yes teams tried to stop the run. They have a less than mediocre receiving corp. Lynch is the only stud skill player they have. However, coming into the season, Wilson was still seen as the most important piece to that offense, and if you watched the close games, it was Wilson that was asked to make the big play in crunch time. Gore is good, but Kaep helps that run game a lot. Also, Davis was in and out a good bit this season. Crab missed half the season and wasn’t at 100% upon returning. I’m not saying these guys had stellar performances every week. They did win big games. Even in games they lost, they had big performances on the biggest of stages: Kaep in the SB or Wilson against ATL. Foles has yet to do that. Until he does, then he will be a notch below. I would have said the same of Matt Ryan and still say the same of Dalton and Schaub.

          • OldDocRoss

            Can’t agree on Kaep helping Gore in the run game. Gore’s been like the Torry Holt of RBs – consistently putting up 1,000 yard seasons to modest fanfare – for years and his numbers have actually dipped since Kaep came in.

            I also think Kaep missed a good number of throws in the SB that really hurt his team but was given a pass because he made some flashy plays with his legs. Foles played as well IMO against NO (fewer flashy plays but fewer mistakes). That performance gets remembered very differently if the D makes a stop in the final four or Cooper hauls in an easy catch.

            Fair play though. You seem to catch a decent amount of flak because you’re seen as a “Vick guy” but I think your main point (that Foles has a lot still to prove) is totally fair and at the end of the day we all want him to go out there and prove it next season.

          • bill

            Did Rodgers score early and often against SF?

          • aub32

            So is that the theme of this offseason Bill? Are we going to critique everything but our own QB. Our QB didn’t win us a playoff game, but let’s focus on the QBs who are so awful that they were only able to take their teams to the SB. This isn’t about SF or SEA. Some of you sound just as bad as when Lurie said we are the gold standard. The D didn’t let the Saints put up 40. Foles should have been able to put that game away by halftime. The offense came up short in the postseason. Kaep and Wilson did enough to win. Our guy did not. Now if you think Foles played his best and reached his ceiling in that game, then I have nothing left to say. However, I expected more and thought he fell short.

          • Andy124

            Foles should have been able to put that game away by halftime.

            Saints D held the Eagles #2 scoring offense to 7 points at the half. Brees should have been able to put that game away by halftime. Not sold on Brees at all. See how silly?

          • aub32

            Really? Brees has a track record. He has a SB ring. When Foles has one, then he can get the benefit in big games. Unti then he has soomething to prove. So yes. There is a huge difference.

          • Andy124

            It’s your use of “should have” that is silly. There is a huge difference. Brees has a ton more experience and should be held to a much higher standard. If anyone “should have” put the game away in the first half, it’s Brees. Yet you’re holding Foles to a higher standard. Silly.

          • aub32

            This is where we disagree. Brees struggled all season away from home, especially in the cold. I expected him to struggle early and he did. Foles was at home. He had all his weapons. He underperformed and made poor decisions. There is reason to believe that had the opposing safety had not gotten injured that Foles would’ve struggled the entire game.

        • mrparabolic

          Actually, If you ever listened to the Birds 24/7 radio show / podcast you would know that Sheil is the Foles hater and Tim is the Foles fanboy.

        • LuckyinMtLaurel

          I can say this – what Sheil was doing at the other site was head and shoulders better than any other and still is. Tim adds the “bad cop” routine that provides the friction for a great place for Eagles fans. Really happy we have Foles and every opponent is gunnin for him now . He gonna get got. What he does after that is what we are all waiting to see

      • peteike

        I agree but Im not really buying the whole game planning against Foles thing per his game and style, spreading it around. Its more about game planning against Kellys scheme. Ya he will be tested next season for sure and hopefully our D is better. Cmon Cooper make that catch and we prob win that game haha, Yes, Im still thinking about that damnit

      • ar_eagles

        The problem wasn’t Tim suggesting we should temper expectations until we have a larger sample size, the problem was who he said Foles did not equal yet. Had he used Brady and Peyton then I think there would not have been such an uproar. But Foles should be compared to RW and CK, and he compares favorably.

  • Scott J

    Pull a player in the pro bowl just to win a meaningless game? Sanders is an idiot.

    • Token

      Yea really. Like they would disrespect guys to win a damn Pro Bowl.

      Overall I think this idea made the Pro Bowl better than it was. But the Sanders and Rice thing is lame and should never be done again.

      • Token

        Wow, a bunch of Sanders fans? Didnt expect that.

      • peteike

        it was lame but there just is no way to make the pro bowl better.

    • Maggie

      Sanders wasn’t actually coaching, anyway.

  • GEAGLE

    Ward was hitting everything last night

    • Richard Colton

      I even saw a few cheerleaders with glassy-eyed looks after halftime

      • GEAGLE

        Hide you woman, hide your children, TJ Ward ain’t f’in around!!!

        • cliff henny

          tj and shady…just stand by roadside on nj turnpike and wait for women to be tossed out

          • GEAGLE

            LOL….did you see the pic of shady pimpin the dime chick in Hawaii?

          • cliff henny

            yeah. he not even being shy about it.

          • GEAGLE

            Lol she was BAD!!!
            ..
            There was a Caption contrast on FB with that pick, and someone wrote that shady was telling her “Knowshon sucks” hahahahaha

            Cliff there is a new thread up with your name on it :)

          • cliff henny

            whelp, my day is shot!

        • Richard Colton

          Let’s get that man in here yesterday.

          • GEAGLE

            PREACH!!! He is actually more durable then Byrd..plus Wolff looks like he could have the range to be a playmaking centerfielder and team with a tackling machine like ward

        • Andy124

          He gonna find you. He gonna find you.

          • Ark87

            aint no doubt homeboy!

  • Scott J

    The national scribes will be writing about how Nick Foles benefitted from Deion Sanders’ legendary offensive system.

    • GEAGLE

      Obviously…

  • Broadcasting Wisdom

    Lead-footed Foles getting lucky again… I hope he drives that Denali down Broad Street in our Super Bowl parade next year.

    • cliff henny

      hope he takes it home to Texas and drives over Cowboys’ fans. he can come back to Philly, it wont be a crime up here. just have to hope Super Bowl is never in Texas

  • jon h

    Deion wanted to pull Foles after 2 series. Should have pulled Newton after 2 series – he was horrible. I did like the drafting and the Sanders/Rice thing. It will be interesting to see if they pick guys next year and who the captains will be.

  • cliff henny

    Watching Foles do his thing, again, must be killing NFC east fans. know Foles would drive me nuts if i wasnt Eagles’ fan. have to check out spin, sure pass to Brown will be labeled ‘lucky jump ball’. the more they complain, the more i know we have something. cause i b!tched up a storm on Romo’s houdini duck/spin moves for years.

    • GEAGLE

      Kids gonna be a beast next year

    • Token

      Pass to brown seemed about perfect placement to me.

      One thing Foles needs to focus on is steping up in the pocket.

      He regressed this year IMO. His rookie preseason and last few games I thought he was quite good in that area for a young guy. Making the little movements in the pocket.

      This year I feel he took a step back there. Too often he back peddles and thats what gets him in so many roll out situations.

      • bill

        Yeah, I thought he regressed in pocket presence this year, after being impressed with it last year as a rookie. Interested to see how it plays out in year 3. It’s possible that the emphasis on QB runs has him doing things differently, and his ability in that area isn’t going to be as good in Chip’s system. Or, it might just be something that he truly regressed in. Next year will tell the tale, in many ways.

        • Andy124

          He started off last year like that and made weekly improvements in that area. That’s one of the things that had me excited to see more. Identifying flaws and correcting them not just in practice, but in games as well.

          I’m wondering if the new coaches didn’t stress it as much. He seemed better at climbing the pocket than when he first started playing last year, but less consistent with it than he was by the end of last year.

      • peteike

        playing in games that matter against starters every week can do that. Prob an experience thing, sometimes theres no place to step up into also so that can avoid possible strip sacks also but taking deepers sacks.

      • Maggie

        Maybe his QB coach, you know, the one he seemingly had some issues with? Maybe that QB coach was trying to get Nick to do the 5-step dropback? The move that doesn’t seem to be in favor anymore, especially with hurry-up offenses everywhere. And deadly pass rushers everywhere for that matter.

    • Maggie

      Isn’t that the same Antonio Brown who saved Pittsburgh’s bacon in the Super Bowl by making an exceptional tiptoe catch that Big Ben overthrew? Brown didn’t have to make more than a very good catch from Nick. No, I am not saying that Foles is a better QB than Rothlesburger (sp?). Just that someday he might be.

      • CTAZPA

        You may be thinking of Santonio Holmes’ six yard tip-toe catch, but your point remains largely the same.

  • aub32

    I’m sure this thread will soon be flooded with comments of those who either think Foles is the next Brady or others who think he’s the next Matt Flynn. Before all that, I’d like to give a little love to DeSean for that highlight catch. The guy is so dialed in to football right now. Let’s keep him happy with some guaranteed money. I can’t wait to see this guy put on an even better show next year.

    • Brent E. Sulecki

      in a normal game the guys playin the ball with desean on that play would have creamed him. those guys jumped straight up and didn’t play the ball. they weren’t out to hit djack. they gave him that one. watch it again.

      • aub32

        The ball was in the defenders arms. DeSean looked like he intercepted the ball.

      • Maggie

        ho cares? He put out the effort.

  • Wilbert31

    There’s no way that Dutch lives through this.

    • cliff henny

      feel sort of bad for the guy, if he wasnt sucha condescending toolbag. was obviously a diehard eagles fan. alot of us agreed to about 75% of what he was stating, he just left the rails on never improving and putting way too much into final game of ’12.

      • Andy124

        He could tell us that 1+1=2 and he’d still be wrong.

        • cliff henny

          he lost me on AZ being all he was ever going to be. and in 6 games in ’12, he should have shown more, refused to take into consideration backups, at best, in most positions.
          .
          heck, even agreeing with 75% of his points on Foles, i’d still end up arguing with him. he was very fustrating

          • BrickSquadMonopoly

            For someone who hasn’t posted in months you guys sure do think about him a lot.

          • cliff henny

            he did leave a lasting impression

          • Wilbert31

            We want him back!

  • GEAGLE

    I hate Weddle…but he gets props for trying to block Jimmy Graham’s dunk on the goal post

  • Explorer51

    The MVP award should have gone to Chip Kelly since Foles can only succeed in his offense.

  • Andy124

    6 quarterbacks threw passes last night. All playing with pro-bowlers against pro-bowlers in basic schemes. Only 1 managed to not throw a pick.

  • ia

    How far did Luck throw that perfect pass to DJax?

    • peteike

      looked like he under threw it and got lucky, wait, that sounds familiar

      • Andy124

        Weak arm. They should draft Logan Thomas.

  • Kev_H

    He won it for Boryla, who got screwed out of the award in 1976!

  • hillbillybirdsfan

    Nice job, Nicky!!!

  • cheapmeat

    I’ve never seen DeSean lift his hands above his head to make a catch until last night