Senior Bowl Diary: Murphy Passes ‘Big People’ Test

NCAA Football: Rose Bowl-Stanford vs Michigan State

MOBILE, Ala. – Trent Murphy doesn’t really find Oregon’s offense all that complicated.

The Stanford outside linebacker was part of a defense that limited the Ducks to 20 and 14 points the last two years – both Cardinal victories.


"Oregon’s scheme works really well for what they do," Murphy said. "But it’s all based on number count of how many players are in the box, how many players are out of the box and then they either throw it out or run the gun-read up inside. And fortunate for Stanford players, we can count as well so we usually have it all figured out."

Even though his Stanford career is now over, Murphy clearly will take the rivalry with him to the NFL. And at the next level, there's a chance he could be playing for the designer of that Oregon offense, Chip Kelly.

"It’s interesting to see because… players that have played well against Pac-12 coaches and those guys who are in the NFL now - Richard Sherman, Doug Baldwin - those guys get picked up by the opponent’s coaching staff because they did well against them," Murphy said. "So hopefully that could be a case for me in that sense."

Based on last year (Zach Ertz, Matt Barkley), Murphy's theory could apply to Kelly and the Eagles.

At 6-5 3/8, 252 pounds, Murphy passes the "Big people beat up little people" test. He has the biggest hands of any player at the Senior Bowl (10 7/8 inches) and has long arms (33 1/8 inches).

But it's not just the measurables. Murphy has the production too. He led the nation last year with 15 sacks and was second with 23.5 tackles for loss.

Teams are looking at Murphy as both a 4-3 defensive end and a 3-4 outside linebacker. He played as a stand-up OLB in Stanford's scheme, which Murphy says has a lot of similarities to what the 49ers run. In 2012, he played mostly on the left side, but Murphy switched to the right side this past season. In addition to the sack numbers, he was asked to drop back into coverage a fair amount also.

Murphy has the length, versatility and production. In the next few weeks, though, he'll have to prove he has the athleticism. ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. has Murphy as his fifth-ranked defensive end, and most early mock drafts don't have him going in the first round. Depending on how he tests athletically in the coming weeks, Murphy's stock could rise or drop by the time the draft rolls around in May.

"I’m sure not too many 6-6 guys can grab their toes and do a pencil squat all the way to the ground on a single leg," Murphy said. "And so I think being able to bend like that, being so long, it gives me some extra tools in my pocket to pass-rush with."

Outside linebacker is likely an area the Eagles will address this offseason. They need to add a pass-rusher to the mix, and Murphy is a player to keep an eye on throughout the process.

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  • Will

    Trent Murphy’s 40 time will go a long way in his draft stock…

    • G_WallyHunter

      Him and barwin taking over the two outside OLB spots? Damn, could be nice

    • GEAGLE

      Combine is crucial for him..
      ..
      If he is fast enough and explosive enough, I would love to have him..
      ..
      If he grades out to be another Bjoern Werner, then I’d pass on him.. Even if he underperformed, I don’t expect a chase Thomas like fall..I think the furthest he would fall is round 3
      ..
      But he is definitely one of the players who I’m most anxious about seeing his combine.

      If he isn’t explosive enough, he won’t be an eagle. Someone will look at his production and like him, but I don’t think we give a crap about college production. We have the TEACHERS in place to where we can take exceptional athletes and let the coaches worry about turning them into good football players…

    • theycallmerob

      40 time is overrated. How often is this guy getting to full speed like that? Cone (shuffle), jumping, 10 yd are more valuable
      For me, I want to see about 0.05 or 0.10 quicker than Barwin (who I think has shown is plenty capable in coverage).

      • GEAGLE

        3 cone

      • Will

        In Coverage if he drops back…Do you take him with 4.8 second 40 time? Connor Barwin posted a 4.47 40 time….so I think it does matter speed kills ….Trent Cole 4.74 40 time…maybe speed does matter…

      • JofreyRice

        It’s all a piece of the puzzle, IMO. 40, 10 yard split, vert jump, 3 cone drill, the game tape. I think people fixate on the measurables because they are less subjective. 3 people can watch the same game and come up with 3 opinions. You can put one guys 10 yard split next to another and quantitatively show he’s better at accelerating over that distance–but really, the angle to take, how to set up the T, the ferocity, hand usage, functional strength, coachability, how he deals with adversity, etc. are all big keys on how successful he’ll be.

  • JofreyRice

    I figured the times they set Cole up in a 3 point stance on a 3 man front, as a DE, was more out of necessity, and maximizing his skill set. Didn’t think that is how they actually wanted to play the ROLB. Murphy did that at Stanford–I wonder if that’s how they imagine using him, as a prospective Eagle? It didn’t seem like he had a tremendously explosive first step, I’ll be really interested to see what kind of times he puts up at the combine.

    • Richard Colton

      He looks like another guy, like Van Noy, who can do all the same things Barwin can do. Wouldn’t kill the pick – but if he’s your ROLB – where is the pass rush coming from?

      • anon

        “But it’s not just the measurables. Murphy has the production too. He led the nation last year with 15 sacks and was second with 23.5 tackles for loss.”

        • Richard Colton

          yeah – good point. worried that he lacks the athleticism to do it against quality NFL O-lines.

          • anon

            thats a fair concern

          • cliff henny

            hey, i found dutch’s pink unicorn…he was slightly off

      • GEAGLE

        KVN looks like a much better athlete to me…very different players. Trent can only play the edge..KVN, can slide inside for you, he can play n Nickle

        If you draft Murphy, you do so being sold on him being you pass rush solution. where as, if you draft KVN, drafting another OLB,pass rusher wouldn’t be redundant, because you can get both playes on the field at the same time..For example, say we draft Kony in round 1, and KVN is too good to pass on in round 2, you can still up:
        barwin(LOLB), Kendrick,KVN, Kony Ealy(ROLB)

        Basically I don’t think those two are neccessarily competing with each other..I’m not sold on Trent. His combine numbers are too important..but I’d take KVN in a heartbeat..while I think there are bigger holes to fill, he is a Versatile winner that a contender would want…everytime his name is mentioned, Mike Vrabel pops into my head.. I will never forget trying so hard to watch film on Ziggy Ansah! but it always turning into the Van Noy show…you don’t have to look for KVN on film, his play jumps out at you…you couldn’t miss him if you tried

        • theycallmerob

          Just happy both (kvn and murphy) are looking good; never hurts to have too many options

          • GEAGLE

            We KNOW we have ROLB to upgrade, I, curious if we will just look at OLBs, because we want that disguise of not knowing who is dropping and who is coming that you would get lining up an exeperienced OLB like KVN across from Barwin… OR will we simply be looking for the most disruptive pass rusher we can find, and not care about them being able to drop?

            basically, I’m wondering if we will ONLY look at OLB prospects, or would a young Trent Cole, 4-3DE prospect like Kony Ealy also get looks?

            Just because we inherited Cole and Graham, doesn’t neccessarily mean that we are ok having a 4-3DE type across from Barwin. The One OLB we didn’t inherit. Barwin, was a real OLB type, not a stiff DE type….it’s possible that they want a predator type who teams know is coming across from Barwin, but it’s tough to buy, considering we are all about being a versatile defense that disguises and confused…

            If we preferably want someone who can drop and rush, them a guy like Attachuo moves pretty high on my wish list…if we are OK with DE types then I give a long look to guys like Kony Ealy

          • Ark87

            excellent point, and more realistic than the hoping to draft the next LT to single-handedly give us an awesome pass rush. A well rounded (but obviously still effective at pass rushing) ROLB could really take the chains off of this scheme. Kendricks and Barwin are already pretty solid/disruptive when they rush. Kendricks with raw speed on the delay, Barwin is especially good at coming up with the next best thing when he doesn’t get to the QB, pass deflections (which can be a lot more devastating than a sack). Being able to send pressure from anywhere because nobody is limited to doing just 1 role can help us a ton.

          • anon

            If they aren’t a better pass rusher (or have the upside) than T. Cole (who is avg.) what’s the point? I think that’s the only thing i’m disliking about 3-4 it’s REALLY hard to find a super well rounded OLB. Which do we value more, stopping run (T. Cole was basically the best last year) or give that up for more pass rush, or better ability to drop into coverage?

            We’ve seen with a guy like Curry dominant pass rushing can be a liability in this scheme. If we take a 4-3 DE sackmaster type, i think it puts more pressure on the secondary in the scheme to cover screens, etc. but that’s why you adapt scheme to personnel i guess.

          • Ark87

            I think we agree. I think if we could get a guy with similar pass rush ability as T-cole, but versatile enough to do other stuff, it could let us do more schematically. Chances are if we got a pass rush specialist 3-4, he would be bad against the run, 4-3 type guys would likely be a liability in coverage like Cole, which would keep Barwin as the designated jack. I think we could improve the position multiple ways, but there will be a trade-off most ways. I don’t think we can avoid a drop off in defending the run though.

          • GEAGLE

            In reality, we are closer to a top defense then people think
            ..
            We already shut down everyone’s run game with our base defense, and force teams into 3rd and 7 to 3rd and 12 range. When we get pressure on 3rd down, we look awesome, getting the stop or coming away with an INT. when our pressure is non exsistent, we weren’t able to hid our safeties and too often team converted on those 3rd and longs.

            if we got the same exact first and second round production next year as what we got this year, we will be a drastically better defense just by improving our Nickle defenses ability to get off the field on 3rd down.
            ..
            Traditionally, college pass rushers usually have to add weight their first year. So we are fortunate that we can still use Cole to set the edge on the first two downs, as long as we have a rookie Bruce Irvin type of pass rush specialist to help generate the pressure needed to get off the field on 3rd down…Then his sophomore season we can look for him to take more of Coles snaps and start becoming a 3 down OLB
            ..
            a intense dude like Attachuo works for me as a 3rd down specialist next year

          • Ark87

            true, a rush specialist could be a great role player early on and possibly develop to be an all down back overtime. These days rookie contracts are definitely friendlier to the traditional development model.

          • GEAGLE

            the hope is that the kid we draft can grow into an every down OLB. But it’s not uncommon for OLBs to have to spend their rookie season bulking up, so I think we are fortunate to have Trent one more year…Trent is really under rated against the run, and I don’t see too many rookies coming in and setting the edge better then Cole…
            ..
            So for next year, I wouldn’t mind an OLB like Attachuo or KVN backing up barwin(replacing Casey Mathews), with Cole and Brandon holding down the right side for one more year..Even tho Attachuo would technically be backing up Barwin, I would use them both in our Nickle, and have Cole and Graham rotate on first and second
            ..,
            Then next offseason(2015)
            1) Graham walks away in free agency. If we sign our big money FA Byrd this year(2014), and have most of our future team in place! we might not be that active in next years FA, if that’s the case, then letting I our first round pick Graham, walk could end up netting us a nice compensatory pick
            .,
            2) If I’m not mistaken, isn’t much easier to get out of Coles contract next year?

            3) Hopefully Attachuo or whatever OLB we draft this year(2014) will ready to be a 3′down player during his sophomore season..in That case we can get younger and replace Cole and Graham with youth…so to start 2015 season our OLBs would be:
            1) Barwin
            2) Attachuo or whoever we draft this year
            3) Rookie
            4) Rookie/or cheap depth veteran

            That’s how we complete the Transition from Andy’s 4-3 to Chips 3-4, without having to suffer losing rebuilding years

          • RIP illa

            I thought Cole’s dead money against the cap would still be pretty significant next year also.

          • cliff henny

            it’s only 3.2m. his cap hit is 11.6m. something is happening there. plus, 99% of the time guys are technically june1st’d on the books even when reported as cut, so it split cap hit into 2yrs.

          • RIP illa

            Thanks for the clarification.
            And for you…Senior Bowl Practice Update:

            Your boy Campenero was impressive in one on ones at the goal line. No Flashy catches, just ran comeback routes, but was very ver physical and aggressive. Consistently getting open and shaking off his man.

            Huff was the same way but had more impressive fade catches for TDs. Both stood out while others were just Meh!!!

          • cliff henny

            sure RIP, welcome. thanks, yeah, do love me some Camp. sounds like what i saw at WF. just always open. had horrible qb and was doubled, and still, always open. reminds me of Dallas’s Beasly or Welker when he first got to NE, guy that’s always open underneath and can catch a 5yrdr on 3rd and 8 and run for 4 or 5 more, every time. guys you look at and wonder ‘why the F cant they cover them!’. cruz, too, jesus i hated cruz when he first showed up.
            .
            i’ll happily take Huff in 5th, like him since he plays both inside and out. if Camp is there in 7th, be a nice pick. but those t-rex arms might be an issue

          • RIP illa

            I could definitely see the Welker in him.

          • anon

            maybe texas will have another cap casualty we can grab.

        • Richard Colton

          Agree with Van Noy being able to play inside as well. I love his versitility, just not his pass rush. Did a mock draft where I got Attachou, KVN, and Skov. Call it my “caseymatthews – you’re cut” – draft fantasy.

          • GEAGLE

            HAHA!!!
            ..
            I ADORE Meco Ryan, and argue to the death with anyone who suggests cutting him this year, but I do know that he only has a year or two left as our on field General…At some point we need to start grooming his eventual replacement..we talk about how we have to upgrade our pass rush, but I get the impression that it wouldn’t be the end of the world for our coaches to have one more year of Cole and Graham. That doesn’t mean improving that positions isn’t one of our top priorities, but I think it means that we won’t be outbidding and over paying for Orakpo, or mortgaging the draft to move up and get a guy.
            ..
            I prefer we add our impact pass rusher of the future in THIS draft…but I don’t think it would be the end of the world if we rated KVN and went into the season with Cole and Graham. technically. KVN would take Casey Mathews spot(backing up Barwin)..but Barwin plays every snap, so KVN would still get some snaps across from Barwin even if he is technically supposed to be backing up Barwin…

            At the end of next year, Graham’s rookie contract will expire, and i believe that’s when we can get out of Coles contract without eating a boatload of money? We would have Barwin and KVN, and then add our impact pass rusher…and by then KVN will be ready to pair with Kendrick, replacing Meco
            ..
            We can expect to look to upgrade our edge pass rusher, but we don’t have to completely sell out and over reach for it, because it wouldn’t be the end of the world if we had to wait for next year…

            But right now, Im really sweet on Kony and attaboy

          • Token

            They need a pass rusher. I dont care about how versatile the guy is. We need someone who can rush the passer and create pressure without us having to blitz. A guy who can win one v one battles.

            The Eagles shouldnt be in the mode of thinking “well Cole is good enough for another year”. They can compete in the NFC with the proper changes. Now is not the time to twiddle thumbs. They need to go for it.

            Cole is not good enough. We had a massive lack of pressure last year. That hurts the entire defense.

            If they want a chance to move forward and not take a step back, Pass rush and S are absolute must haves going into next year.

            If they were 8-8 and looked middle of the road this year Id be ok with your strategy. But I dont feel thats the route they should go. The division wont stay down forever.

          • theycallmerob

            I feel the Eagles need a consistent rush more than a rusher. Davis loves the LeBeau fire blitz, with the advantage of being able to bring pressure all over at any time. A great rusher on that side would be great no doubt; maybe it leads to us drafting a guy like Dee Ford?
            But a multi-tool/JACK- combined with most returning starters, returning scheme, staff, and comfort with the basics- offers greater versatility for the coaches. Maybe they expect more rush from Cox, Thornton, and Curry?
            One last key would be a DT like Hageman or Ellis vs. an NT like Nix or McCullers. I love how we did against the run in ’13 and how quickly those DL took to 2-gapping, but I think their comfort level with leverage and hands in 2-gapping (plus the initial read) will help “slow their brains” and allow them to play more instinctively.
            I know that’s almost Geagle-level optimism, but I do think it’s possible. And the fact there are about 10 different OLB prospects that look capable of starting for us day 1.
            Curious which Chip values more- front 7 (we go DT or OLB and keep Fletch and Sconces) vs. secondary (look to immediately upgrade CB and S this year, and give a guy like Cole another year of majority snaps)

          • Richard Colton

            If the stars align right – 4/5 QBs, 5 Oline, 3 DBs and 3 Dline, and a random go in the first 17 picks, I wonder what it would take to move up and take a legit pass rushing beast at OLB? Those are the kinds of players that can make a real impact in their first year.

          • GEAGLE

            I totally agree, heck I write about it all the time…but i don’t think we will over reach, or overpay for it…we should be able to upgrade it without having to..
            ..
            People see the quiet offseason we had, hear Howies comments about “batting average”‘and now everyone is assuming that we won’t sign any big name impact guys…I don’t buy it at all!

            I don’t think we will be Dan Synder type of stupid about it so we can rule out guys like Orakpo who have no competition at their position on the market…but if you want to improve your pass rush! you can do so in a responsible fashion. At SOME POINT, there will be a DE/OLB near the top of your,board..maybe you have to pass on two guys at other position who were rated a point or two higher….
            ..
            I think our goal, like last year is to go into the draft with a player you can live with starting at every single position, so that you don’t have to act like Psycho a jerry Jones, drafting a center in round 1, when he could have had him 100 spots later..

            But this is a really good draft for OLb/DE so I would be shocked if we didn’t come away with one. But I don’t see us getting rid of Cole OR Graham til we have already secured their replacement

            Billy Davis talked about how he just layed the foundation this year, and that next year we will start to build on it..but he was open and honest about the,crucial need to improve our 3rd down defense. Sounded like improving our ability to get off the field on 3rd was his number one mission for this offseason…We were a top BEAST of a unit against the Run, but 3rd down needs a ton of work. it’s not rocket science, when we got pressure on 3rd down we looked like an awesome defense. when we couldn’t get to the QB, we got exposed. You damn sure can’t hide your safeties when the pressure isn’t getting home.
            .,,
            We showed a lot of qualities of a top Defense last year. ITs a cliche game of inches. think about it, we are 3rd down play away from being a top defense. Our inability to get off the field on 3rd made all the difference in the world..

            next year, I would be more then happy to get the same production we got this year on first and second down. it’s not like we couldn’t get off the field because opponents were always in 3rd and short situations…we got KILLED when we had opponents in 3rd and 7 to 3rd and 12 range. We are 3rd down defensive improvements away from being. Nasty defense. Our young guys need to continue to improve, continue to drill the fundamentals, and we need to improve our Nickle situation..

            So we don’t even Need a best OLB who is day one ready to be an very down back. Just having a Bruce Irvin type of rookie 3rd down pass rush specialist will be enough, after improving or safety play of course….We don’t even need a rookie to come in and notch 15 sacks..we just need a rookie who will force QBs to get the ball out faster then he would like on 3rd down..

            Cole is extremely under rated against the run and we aren’t eating his dead money. So I don’t mind having Cole set the edge on first and second down..then have the rookie ready to explode off the ball on 3rd and 8 (especially since a lot f explosive college OLBs need to add weight their first year)..
            Then in 2015, if all goes well, he becomes our 3down OLB.
            ..
            I’m a defensive NUT, but I’m a realist and I know Chip is always going to want to dump assets into the offense..so I’m trying to figure out the best ways to improve our defense while leaving enough assets for Chip to build his offense..

            Paying Byrd or Ward, has to be a priority. everyone will point to Howie’s batting average approach, or what he said about signing mid level guys, but do people actually,expect Howie to tell the media and fans in January, ‘We are going to aggressively go after Byrd or Ward?”… Why would he do that? Howie isn’t going to give up any competitive advantage…actually it’s probably more accurate to take what Howie says and expect I him to do the exact opposite
            ..
            Sure, Byrd costs good money! but you are also paying for draft flexibility. if you are just going to sign another cheap Chung or Kemmy Phillips! then I can’t even fathom how you can NOT spend a top two pick on a safety…Pay for An Elite safety you can count on, and you would then have the flexibility to wait til round 5 to draft one.

            Need a veteran, playmaking safety in centerfield, and I need an explosive edge rusher drafted in the first two rounds. It doesn’t have to be a game ready, 3 down OLB like Khalil Mack, I’m fine with a fierce, intense, attaboy to unleash in our Nickle package…
            ..
            Our base defense needs to keep doing what it’s been doing, shut down run games and force teams into 3rd and 7 or longer….improve our nickels ability to get oft the field, and we will be set…veteran safety! Top talent OLB..and then just start filling the depth roles…

            If we don’t get,Safety taken care of in FA, we will be stuck having to draft both safety and OLB in the first 3 rounds..but if we break open the piggy bank and ass a BYRD man, Wolff would have his mentor to play next to, like Kendrick has Demeco! and it will free up our top 100 picks for Chip to improve his offense ..If you sign a guy like bYrd and draft OLB in round 1, I don’t see any reason why Chip can’t draft two new toys for him to play with on offense in rounds two and 3, or rounds 1 and 3…

          • Wilbert31

            I love what we did this year and love the direction we’re going, but in reality we would have been 8-8 if we didn’t have a last place schedule.

          • Peace

            A first place schedule would have replaced the cardinals with the seahawks and the bucs with the falcons.
            I doubt we lose to the falcons. So “in reality” you are wrong.

          • RIP illa

            Agree w/ you 100%, but Davis is saying different right now.

          • RIP illa

            Can we just cut Casey now on the hopes of your draft scenario coming true…or just because he’s Casey Matthews???

        • RIP illa

          Agreed that his combine numbers will be important, but they need to be taken w/ a grain of salt or compared to his game tape. If he comes in running something like a 4.65-4.7 then there’s def reason for pause. Cause 1, that doesn’t matchup to what’s on tape and 2, you/the FO should be getting thoughts of workout warrior. We all know most kids prepare to run faster, jump higher, etc for the combine. But if the difference is that striking or very vast than their in game speed, then that should set off alarms. But he does have good production like the article and we all say, so maybe teams/us would overlook a higher than expected performance at the combine.

          I can definitely see Chip and Howie drafting him…I don’t like it, cuz like RC said, where does the pass rush come from. We all want a dynamic and explosive pass rusher. But after reading Davis’s quotes at BGN, and knowing how Chip loves versatility…I see us drafting a player like Murphy and Van Noy, over a pure pass rusher.

        • GENETiC-FREAK

          Finally someone sees the bigger picture!

      • JofreyRice

        I think you’d have to believe that he’s going to be the passrusher, if you take him at 22. College production is not a good indicator, though. Too many variables with scheme fit, opportunities, etc. However, I don’t think college production is entirely irrelevant–especially when you fold in the tackle for loss stats. Because that doesn’t just account for sacks that may or may not be against running QBs, where he was matched up against a blocking halfback, or lessor competition, it’s indicative of the ability to win at the LOS and penetrate into the backfield.

        In this case, he’s got the production, if he puts up a good combine, I’d be OK with him at 22. The Eagles might have some fancy way of determining those traits before he even gets there. As a fan, I’m just going by what Stanford stuff I’ve seen. First step isn’t everything, but he didn’t look anything like Barr or Mack. Makes perfect sense why Chip would be interested in him, though. He’s pretty much exactly what Chip seems to like. Hard worker, smart, big, from the Pac-12, productive, team-player.

        I think he’s better than Van Noy. To my eyes, Van Noy is like a lesser Berwin, and may not even be athletic enough to make a living on the outside, as a pro.

    • theycallmerob

      I agree- some of the combine #’s like the cone drill and vert. will give us a better idea of his athleticism. Funny how written off he was by many in PHI (fans and media) as a 43 DE and “bad fit” for us, at least compared to some of the other guys, but recently I’ve only heard good things about him.
      At #22, I think we’ll have about 5 big-name guys (or guys we’ve been yeasting up) sitting there for the picking. I’m probably more excited about his year than last, when we were at 4.

      • GEAGLE

        This year is much more exciting…last year was dull because there were only a few realistic possibilities at 4…picking number 22 is way more exciting… EVERYTHNG is on the table

        • Ark87

          We have some many areas we can improve, anybody that falls to us would be golden too. Sorry, were you guys on a lineman run? We’ll just take the 15th best player that y’all passed up for needs, thanks. Tons of possibilities.

          • GEAGLE

            Exactly!! Lol
            ..
            For having the 22nd pick. I like our positioning for OLBs.
            picks 11-14 really have No use for 3-4OLBs like Barr! Attachuo(titans,Rams,giants,Bears)
            1) Steelers drafted Jarvis last year. Their window to win with Big Ben is closing. They need OT and WR, I also don’t know that they could pass on Nix III.

            Ravens are Practicalky in nthe same position as the steelers
            ,,
            17) Cowboys are a mess. Need help on both lines, I think they keep kiffin, so he would be more interested in DE like Kony as opposed to OLBs
            ..
            18) Jets defense is awesome. Don’t see how they can ignore the offense in round 1
            ..
            19) doubt Dolphins dare steal another OLB from us to play a 4-3 lol
            ..
            20) cardinals. cardinals would take a QB with this pick if thy like who is on the board, if not I expect them to chose bêtween OT and CB
            ..
            21) GB…they need a brand new defense lol..the money player I don’t think they will replace is Mathews and Datone Jones lol
            ..
            Clowney and Mack will definitely be off the board, but OLBs that don’t get drafted in the top 10, could end up falling a nice amount..so we may have a real shot at trading up to get Barr without having to give up a kings ransom! basically i think Barr has the chance to be this years Star LATULULIE..Top 5 worry talent, who falls into 15-20 range..and if Barr doesn’t get to us! I doubt too many other OLBs will be drafted before they get to us…so we should have a shot at adding on of these 5 best OLB prospects in this draft

          • Richard Colton

            Raiders need secondary help at pick #3 – there’s no way we miss out on Dion Jordan at #4.
            why do you set yourself up for this kind of heartache?

          • GEAGLE

            No heart ache,,,22 is easier. So many possibilities that you can’t worry about one guy,,.i won’t even try to mock our pick..but by the time the draft rolls around I hope to have a pool of guys we are most likely to draft(in each round) and hope I can ATleast hit on a few..
            ..
            Too many variables when picking at 22..lol the eagles won’t even know who they are picking. Last year was tough. Round 1 was easy, I though it would have been Dion!Lane, Jonathon Cooper

            In round 2 I wanted Kyle Long, turned out he would have been a great pick, just didn’t last til round two. This time last year I thought Ertz and Eiffert were too good to spend time talking about because I thought they we both locks to be first round picks
            ..
            Round 3, I don’t think anyone but Walterfootball had us drafting Logan
            ..
            No one could have ever predicted Barkley in the 4th

            Wolff in the 5th threw me off. I thought we would be more 4-3U in the imagine of a Seattle, so I expected to play with a Free and Strong safety…which was wrong, Wolffs value was that he is an interchangeable safety type, so going forward we probably shouldn’t expect a Cam Chancellor, Hammer type!

            I had Kruger and Poyer as targets tho

          • Ark87

            Wolff was a bit small for me to expect us to pick him (I wasn’t upset, living in NC, knew he was a baller, but surprised we took him), Kelly insists size is a big deal for him, even now. Normally chip hostilely rejects generalizations, seems to endorse his desire to have big rangey guys, though.

  • mtn_green

    Definitely like Trent Murphy, it is funny how the sack leader in a big conference is mocked by the experts as the seventh best de. I get that Sutton, clowney, and others underperformed last year and their potential is huge but…

  • ojdiddoit

    “And so I think being able to bend like that, being so long, it gives me some extra tools in my pocket to pass-rush with.”…Sounds like Kellys kind of player

  • Tom W

    Scouts saying he got,stoned by nd otackle Martin who is a first rounder and ot monster from Miami all day long. Not athletic enough to win as an edge rusher at next level. Maybe in rd3.

    • Richard Colton

      Zac Martin made Van Noy look like a non factor too. Wonder where he is on their board – assuming he makes it past the Dolphins.

      • Tom W

        Can play every position on the line and at least a probowl guard. Also heard sheed beasted him Cyrus and center from colo st. Sheed!!, Our Richard Seymour

        • Richard Colton

          ‘Sheed makes us better at multiple positions. NT (obviously) DE (can slide Logan over part time) and Secondary – any interior push gives our outside OLBs more of a shot and our DBs less time covering WRs. I know Dallas is looking at him too, even though every mock has them taking Kony.

          • Tom w

            Looking at 3 wrs, shede hageman at eagles pick … Wonder if Pryor runs a sick 40 if I could get on board taking him at 22.

          • Will

            That’s what I’m most interested in is the speed of the top 4 Safeties, you would be in good company…Tommy Lawlor likes Calvin Pryor at #22….with that said Mike Evans is really impressive…

    • anon

      sad to hear

  • Hugh Jasper

    Based on last year (Zach Ertz, Matt Barkley), Murphy’s theory could apply to Kelly and the Eagles.

    Sheil, Bennie Logan also played against Chip Kelly in 2011. 3 of the Eagles’ first 4 picks in last year’s draft played against Kelly in college.

    • anon

      no nfl experience not a ton of time to scout — pretty logical route.

  • Tom W

    My 3-4 olb rankings so far

    1) Mack
    2) Barr
    3) Nigerian nightmare
    4) dee ford
    5) van noy
    6) Marcus smith
    7) Murphy
    8) Reilly
    9) Hubbard
    10) Christian jones
    11) Ronald Powell
    12) Morgan Breslin
    13) Jordan zumwalt

    Think ealy Sam and jeffcoat aren’t olbs. Think Crawford is an ilb. Think Murphy and Reilly may end up as d ends. Think Ronnie Powell came out too early and could be a steal in 4 or 5 round. Was best high school prospect coming out in country as a te and lb. got hurt Asa soph. Good junior yr. I think the first 6 guys all work for me and eagles chips requirements. Really warming to Marcus smith … Great college production as an edge rusher and a great cover lb. smart kid. Ford is making people look beyond his size .. Dunno if birds get over it.

    • Richard Colton

      Think Christian Jones is more of an ILB. You’ve been really high on Attachou for a while, wonder if he’ll go round one.

      • Tom w

        That’s fair. Wish attouchi lasted to 54 but I highly doubt it.

        • Richard Colton

          I like him too. I’d rather take a shot at an OLB who has the potential to develop into a premier pass rusher than just a solid guy. Problem is – right now I think #22 is a reach, but dont see him lasting until #58. That will probably change post combine.

          • GEAGLE

            Attachuo will go in round 1

          • Tom W

            People were saying rd 3 a week ago. Deep draft

            Bridge Manzel bortles Carr
            Watkins Evans lee Benjamin
            Clowney Barr Mack
            Matthews Robinson Lewan Martin kuondijos
            Ebron
            Nix sheed Jernigan
            Gilbert
            Haha Pryor
            Mosley shazier
            Tuitt ealy
            Yankey

            Throw in another otackle and corner and wr/te and we got 32. He probably goes early mid second

        • cliff henny

          first time i watched atta-guy was clemson game. rarely mid game do i do a ‘who is this cat!?’ and do a search on a guy, but he was a 1-man wrecking crew. saw cbsdraft had and is holding him solid in 3rd/4th round. it’s a decent site, as those sites go, but he sure looked like a 1st rd talent. now all measurables are coming in, plus sounds like he can cover just enough so offense cant assume he’s coming every down. really want a beast wr, but Barr’s a no-brainer, Atta-guy is not a bad pick.
          .
          only guy i’ll disagree slightly is Jeffcoat. watch his bowl game. he played stand up, walking the line, and was in backfield chasing down Mariota. looked like a JJ type guy. not sure he’s what Eagles want. be little doubt he’s coming every down.
          .
          guy i read, forget where, that eagles have chatted to, kennard out of usc. 6th rdr range. didnt see any socal games, so just checked measurables, fits all that. assume he was at least 4, probably 5 star athlete out of HS, so sure there is alot to work with.
          .
          all and all, nice list…have to check out couple names. thanks! was never a draft/scout guy. blame Geagle and thinking Eagles were going to be qb shopping in ’14 draft. it’s really addicting.

          • Tom W

            Watch his Georgia game too. Holy hell best player on field.

    • Giorgos Kassakos

      I like Attaochu too. Smith from Louisville would also be a great pick, but looks like the guy that will get over-hyped after the combine and will end up being picked in the second round. Christian Jones needs a lot of bulk if he wants to be able to fight blocks in the NFL. He’s more of an ILB now, but he could easily go to 3-4 OLB if he adds some muscle.

  • Rick H

    2 points regarding our defense: 1. We need to have a serious anchor nose tackle with upside. Nix from Notre Dame is a possibility or Hageman because he is extremely disruptive. 2. The outside Linebacker that is really quick, Maybe it is it is Dee Ford or someone like him. Then there is free agency.
    Does Orakpo want to leave Washington? Don’t know. Do the Eagles go after Darious Byrd (planters on both feet) or T.J. Ward (inconsistent but pretty good)? If they get OLB & Safety in free agency then I would bet they go Best player available on either side of the ball.
    On defense CB Dennard from Michigan State or Efron from North Carolina TE the kid can play the slot and is also a pretty decent blocker. He is definitely first round and a real pass receiving threat at 6’4″ 230 lbs and can run and adjust to balls in the air. Just guessing here for fun! :

  • ztom6

    NB, it’s “pistol squat”, not “pencil squat”. And it really is pretty impressive for someone that big.

  • Andy124

    Stupid May. April is better.

  • Will

    The Eagles look long and hard at the talent in the Senior Bowl. Hope they consider the underclass men who came out for the draft as well. Calvin Pryor is a Junior 6’2″ 208 lbs. Safety…..There are 102 underclass men declaring for the draft this year…

    • Tom W

      Really? Of course they will that is the grand majority of the elite day one and two talent. Do you really think they won’t look at the number one safety prospect? Or are you going for the record this week of repeating the same thing over and over and over again that the rest of America realizes .. Yes we need a safety.

      • Will

        The point was not so much the need at safety as do the Eagles look over the 102 underclass men who declared for the NFL Draft this year and are not a part of the Senior Bowl…short of cut ups if they played against one another just wonder how do you compare them or rank them not seeing them play together with the Seniors?

        • Andy124

          They scout year ’round. No worries, they’ve got the underclassmen covered.

          • Will

            Thanks just curios almost like comparing apples and oranges short of them playing against one another…but thanks figured they scout 24/7 365 days….

          • Andy124

            iirc, game film makes up at least 80% of the evaluation (yes, I pulled that number out of my arse). All this combine and post season stuff is just trying to cement what they already know or separate players with very close evaluations. It’s like when you’ve studied for the test and you know you’re going to pass it, but you keep studying because everybody else is and you don’t want to be at a disadvantage.

            That’s why I’m usually very wary of late risers.

        • Tom W

          Bro they scout them all year. They watch their games. Game film is like 90 percent of the board. Stop whining about safety everyday. We have other positions as well. I’m fine w Wolfe as a starter and someone to compete w him. He showed he has starter talent this yr. address the other spot and move on. But whining like a little girl everyday w these depressing rhetorical posts is annoying as hell. The safeties at the senior bowl are garbage this yr except maybe the kid from northern Illinois. We will get someone in free agency and probably draft someone in the first 5 Rds. Last yr we had so many holes and thought we were three yrs away and didn’t know what we had in defense it made total sense not to overspend on any position including safety. Now we have less problem areas and can continue to improve the roster … But trying to wedge a need position and overdraft or grab 2 top free agent safeties ain’t happening no matter how much you whine by everything Howie and chip have said and way they did offseason and draft last yr.

          • Will

            The Team needs K,WR,OLB, NT, FS,SS….those are the glaring needs prior to FA or the Draft….will be interesting all the moves upcoming I’m sure they will get it right. We are lucky Tom Gamble stayed. I for one will sit back and enjoy.

      • Richard Colton

        We need a safety? you know Chung’s under contract, right?

        • Will

          We have Chung/Wolff were fine there….we been fine there the last 5 years…but as usual thanks for your input Tom…. Last year they brought in Kenny Phillips ( bum knees) and Chung who is pure Garbage in coverage….Now we have Chung and Wolff ( a rookie with a nagging knee injury…) So they need 2 starters and a 3rd not just a Safety as you put it….Until they address it will continue to be the weakness of our passing Defense in a pass happy league. I for one as a fan did not enjoy getting lit up by Peyton Manning for 52 points and he made it look easy….

          • Andy124

            I thought we were drafting an ILB and moving Kendricks and Casey Matthews to safety. Championship.

  • RIP illa

    Senior Bowl Practice Update…
    DL v OL One on One:

    Notable OL:
    Martin from ND won 2 outta 3. Won both times at Tackle and beaten when lined up at Guard. Showed very well, never looked like he was having trouble, even when beaten.

    The best was Schofield from Michigan. Simply dominant!!! Lined up at Tackle. Moved his feet really well, no problems staying in front of his man. Once he got his paws on people…it was over for them.

    Richardson from Baylor, was beaten like a drum w/ speed rushes. Lined up at Guard, just couldn’t keep up or move well enough to even he somewhat effective. He won’t see speed rushes every time, in the league, but he will still see them enough, that he may want to really work on that.

    Notable DL:
    Let’s start w/ the worst…Michael Sam. Don’t know what his deal was. Tried rushing the edge and looked lethargic. No speed and when he tried w/ power…wasn’t happening. Really looked bad. OL blocked him, virtually effortlessly.

    Another non impressive…Trent Murphy. Rushing from the edge, showed no explosion or fast get off. Looked hesitant when engaging, almost as if he was thinking to much about his moves or set ups, and didn’t display power when engaged. Kinda looked like When Berwin rushes from the edge, just w/ less power!!!

    Justin Ellis was 1 for 3. You can really see his lack of arm length on display, as OLs have no trouble in getting their hands up under his pads and he lacks the hand technique to combat them. His last rep, he tried a rio move that went nowhere as the OL already had a hold of him. Made me think T-Rex!!! Despite all of that, you can definitely see that the power is their as he’s always driving his man backwards. Don’t know if that’s a saving grace tho.

    ‘Shede went 2 for 3. His last rep, he false started, so don’t know if he was thinking more about the snap count over his get off, but either way he lost that rep. Wasn’t overly impressive, nothing to make you say Holy Shite.

    Donald from Pitt was the 2nd most impressive DL of the drill. Won 2 outta 3. Nice combination of speed and Power. Showed decent moves while using a swim and rio mostly.

    Best of the Day…Dequan Jones from Penn State!!! Speed…Power…Didn’t matter, Dominated every rep. Literally unstoppable.

    • Andy124

      We Are!

    • Tw

      Schofeld looks like a right tackle. May have got Himself into rd 4 …

      • RIP illa

        That’s where he was lined up during drills. Gotta see him on game day. He could really help himself further than the 4th if he does like he did in practice today.

        • Tom W

          Will help him get scouts to look at his game tape again for sure.

  • Giorgos Kassakos

    I hope the Eagles stay away from Murphy. Eventually, his guy will be a 4-3 DE, not a 3-4 OLB, especially if teams want him to add bulk to his frame. He is also a lot better when rushing the QB from a 3-point stance, so unless the Eagles turn to a more hybrid front, I don’t see how he fits.

    Barr and Mack, the top two 3-4 OLBs of this class will probably be picked before the Eagles get to pick their first rookie. Murphy is not worth a first-rounder, in my opinion. Kyle Van Noy and Carl Bradford are more likely to be around for the 2nd and 3rd round picks and present more value. I like Bradford, but him being 6’1″ most likely doesn’t pass the “big guy” test.

    • Tw

      Yea Bradford is interesting … Too short and stocky though. Former fullback. Played d end olb and ilb. Think he ends up a ilb But height hurts him