Senior Bowl Diary: Kelly, Coaches Get Involved

NCAA Football: Compass Bowl-Vanderbilt vs Houston

MOBILE, Ala. – For NFL scouting departments, preparing for the draft is a year-round job.

For coaching staffs, though, that’s not the case.


Eagles coaches had last week off, some time to relax and recharge after a long and promising season. This week they turned the page to the offseason. Chip Kelly and his staff are at the Senior Bowl watching practices, interviewing prospects and working off a list provided to them by Howie Roseman.

"You want to make sure that you’re putting in front of him [Kelly] players that fit what he’s looking for and that he can evaluate them as well," Roseman said. "Our first job as a personnel department is to try and narrow it down. We spend a lot of time on 600 guys, making it down to 400, making it down to 200, making it down to a manageable number for our coaches. We do that, and there’s a lot of trust on their part of us doing that, making sure that when they come out here and go: ‘Hey why isn’t this guy on my list?’ We can explain it pretty quickly to them why we got rid of that guy and why we’ve narrowed it down."

The number right now is between 150 and 200 prospects, Roseman said. There are several players participating in the Senior Bowl who have already been crossed off the Eagles' list because they're bad fits.

The draft board is set in pencil, not pen. Coaches will get a closer look at prospects, the Senior Bowl and scouting combine will factor in, and the Eagles will have to get their ducks in a row by the time the draft rolls around in May.

"It’s hard to spend a lot of time on 250 to 300 guys," Roseman said. "It’s hard for our coaching staff. It’s hard for our personnel staff to spend the months of February, March and April chasing around 250 guys and making sure we know a lot.

"We talk a lot as a scouting staff knowing a lot about a little instead of a little about a lot. And that’s really important for us because at the end of the day we’re only pulling seven, eight, nine names off the board. And we’re maybe adding 10 free agents, so we’re only really making decisions on 20 guys. And if we’re right on 60 percent of them, we’re gonna do a phenomenal job. So let’s make sure the guys that we like we’re spending a lot of time on knowing everything we can so there’s not as many surprises."

BIG PEOPLE: JORDAN MATTHEWS

Vanderbilt wide receiver Jordan Matthews was impressive today. At just under 6-3, 209 pounds, he looked like a man among boys during some of the drills.

Matthews had 112 catches for 1,477 yards and seven touchdowns last season. He is Mel Kiper Jr.'s seventh-ranked receiver, but that could change and he could go off the board in the first two rounds.

It wouldn't be surprising if Matthews is someone the Eagles take a closer look at in the coming weeks.

SPORTS SCIENCE

The whole sports science thing apparently extends to the draft process. After practice is over, reporters, scouts and coaches are allowed onto the field to talk to the prospects.

The Eagles have a contingent of two to three people who go up to specific prospects with a measuring tape and measure the circumference of their knees and wrists.

Jimmy Kempski of Philly.com took a photo which we'll link to when it's posted, but the guess is that this has something to do with potential weight gain.

If anyone with a background in this field knows why it would be the knee and wrist specifically, feel free to e-mail me at skapadia@phillymag.com.

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  • Max Lightfoot

    Sheil – you and Jimmy should probably write a dual blog posting together, with your all-22s and his drawings of players with tiny stick arms!

    Kempski noted that it was awkward to ask to take a photo of someone’s hand:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Senior-Bowl-practice-notes-Day-1.html

  • Javi Echie

    Give us Jordan Matthews or Allen Robinson please!!!

    • Tag

      I like Allen Robinson….he is one of those recievers that will go up and snatch the ball. Plays much bigger than his size. Keep an eye on Colt Leyarla TE out of Oregon might be a late round gem.

      • Javi Echie

        Yea.man Matthews and Robinson are my favorite receivers in this draft if we can’t land one of them I’m hoping to grab Martavis Bryant from Clemson…yea I like Lyerla to but only if he can keep his head on straight cause this kid seems almost as brain-dead as Aaron Hernandez

    • GEAGLE

      We would have to draft A-Rob at #22, which is probably too high…you know Bill Obrien won’t pass on him at the beginning of round two

      • Javi Echie

        Yea you’re probably right but depending how the draft shakes out if arob or matthews are available and either one are near the top as BPA I really wouldn’t mind grabbing either one at #22. I do agree to a point about obrien trading him but they have two stud receivers in Houston and they could use a te or a defensive player. Oh well at this point I can only hope to get one of those two stud receivers lol

      • SleepingDuck

        I don’t know the Texans roster that well, but don’t they already have DeAndre Hopkins and Andre Johnson?

        • theycallmerob

          nothing beyond that; AJ is getting no younger, and Hopkins didn’t exactly foster much confidence (says a bitter FFL owner)

          • anon

            I know so promising at beginning of year. Hopefut better qb play will help.

        • GEAGLE

          Andre getting old…Texans need to start getting younger at the skill positions…

          Unless the texans are drafting a QB at the beginning of round 2. I would be really surprised if Bill Obrien passes on A-Rob if he is still on the board to start rd 2

    • Media Mike

      Allen Robinson would be great.

  • Tag

    Folks might say Roseman has done a good job in draft but I would disagree. In the past 2 years we had top 10 selection and yet no probowlers. DJ Fluker and Kyle Long were much better prospects…shoot we even passed on DE Sheldon Richardson. Lane Johnson will be a project for years.

    • GEAGLE

      Your thinking is all screwed up! I like Fluker.Long and Sheldon, but judging a draft after it’s rookie season is just worthless garbage…
      so far the last two drafts look extremely promising, but it’s really too early to know. Our last two drafts could still turn out to be below average, OR they can turn out to be HOMERUNS..all we have right now are a few hints…

      As for Fluker, just because a player looks good in one scheme,doesn’t mean he would play at the same level in a different scheme

      I mean, I’m used to fans being clueless, but I never imagined I would see someone trash Howie for our last two drafts…smh congrats, ATleast you are unique
      ..
      FYI, I guarentee Lane Johnson has a drastically better career then your boy

      • anon

        Isn’t your fluker argument the same argument you dismiss about Riley? If Sheldon wad on our team every post (yours and mine) would be on his jock especially when dez had him as goal line back. Youre crazy if you don’t think he has a high ceiling.

        That said why not just admit that we can’t get the absolute best player in every round. Our best tackle was coming off two achilles surgeries makes a ton of sense that wed draft a replacement. Plus generally we aren’t great at drafting d (hopefully gamble will change that) and we thought cox would dominate in the hole (he had a down year bc of scheme and reps). There’s nothing wrong with that but seems silly to try to invent arguments to justify our guys.

    • SleepingDuck

      Not sure if a troll or just stupid.. But assuming you’re just stupid, Richardson,Fluker and Long were all long gone (pun intended) before the Eagles’ 35th pick. Second, did you watch the Eagles/ Chargers game? Barwin absolutely blew Fluker off the ground on one play. Third, the Eagles did not have a 10 top pick in 2012.

      • GEAGLE

        Stupid….not clever enough to be a troll job :)

      • theycallmerob

        this is the same moron with friends who know things, talking up certain prospects last week. Move On, Moron

        • anon

          Is there a need to call him a moron? Not sure it makes the content of your post anymore valid. Actually makes it seem like you have no argument so you resort to name calling on a football blog. Everyone has an opinion, even if a comment US misguided it doesn’t make the commenter an idiot.

          Lots of times you have very valid points but I think everyone can do without the constant name calling.

          • RIP illa

            Up vote, cuz that’s what I wanna be like when I grow up!!!

          • Sig

            One of the things that I love about this website is the lack of personal attacks in the comment section. I feel that is one of the areas that separates this blog from the others.

            Also Sheil and Tim do one heck of a job.

          • theycallmerob

            heck, even I’ll upvote that, because you’re right. I do get carried away sometimes.

      • Tag

        Enough with calling names…what are you? 12 years old? act a little mature. My point is I would’ve picked Sheldon Richardson over Lane Johnson and in 2012 would’ve picked S Harrison Smith over DE Fletcher Cox. Speaking of Chargers game he pancaked Barwin and Thornton on the ground.

        • Media Mike

          Harrison Smith is one concussion (given or received) from being out of football.

        • theycallmerob

          Smith over Cox? wow.

          • Media Mike

            Ask Harrison Smith about benefitting from Jared Allen and Kevin Williams generating non-stop pass rush.

          • theycallmerob

            missed half of 2013. I mean, the kid’s good, but taking him over Cox then and now are both clues to this guy’s inability to scout

          • RIP illa

            I wouldn’t have made that decision either. Smith was a sure fire top second rounder w/ border line 1st round possibility, according to various scouting reports, up until the time he was taken.

        • SleepingDuck

          You would’ve taken Richardson over Johnson? Why? Because of what he’s done this year? Johnson was taken 4th overall because of what he could do n the long run, not what he could do in his first year. If you watched all of the games, you could see that Johnson got better and better each game. But, I think you were probably living under a bridge.

          Smith over Cox at 12? Wow. Games are won upfront. If you have a dominant line, you can hide your deficiencies in the back end.

          I’ll just leave this here for you.
          http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19093fo7b5wwagif/ku-xlarge.gif

          • Tag

            why don’t you pull out a clip of Lane Johnson surrendering 4.5 sacks vs Justin Houston …lets check out that annihilation

          • SleepingDuck

            That was week 3. As I said before, he was taken for his UPSIDE not for the immediate future. He is clearly more physically gifted than all the of the other lineman from last year’s class. Would you want an OT that has average feet being your LT (Fluker) or an athlete of an OT being your future LT (Johnson)?

          • Tag

            The latter…Danny Watkins had exeptional feet and was considered a good athelete by Roseman right?

          • SleepingDuck

            No one said that Watkins had exceptional feet. You’re just making stuff up now. Also, Watkins was Andy’s pick not Howie’s.

          • Tag

            Watch Rosemans post draft interview with Dave Spadarro. Did Roseman admit that Andy picked Danny? Roseman raved about Dannys senior bowl performance and was sucked into the hype.

          • SleepingDuck

            Roseman wasn’t going to throw Andy under the bus and say that Andy made the pick. It is a well known fact that Andy made the pick. Numerous reports already have come saying that Watkins and Jarret were both Andy picks.

          • RIP illa

            Andy said it was Howie’s pick. We don’t know for sure.

          • RIP illa

            Not clearly more than Armstead who was taken significantly later. And one play does not make Fluker’s season any less good!!! I’m not on board w/ Tag’s point as a whole, but there have been some pretty shaky arguments to counter his post, which is very shaky itself. Unfortunately when we picked at 4 last year, there was no clear cut NFL ready day one starter in that draft for value available. Normally, picking that high would yield a player like that. As it has been the case in previous drafts as well as probably this one.

          • SleepingDuck

            I know that one play doesn’t define Fluker’s entire season, but the point I tried to make was that Fluker wasn’t nearly as good as Tag thought he was. I think him being unable to counter my shaky arguments just proves that he’s trolling.

          • anon

            Haha no point in arguing lane is as good at his position as Sheldon is. Just admit Sheldon is a beast but we needed a lineman and lane wad the best for our blocking scheme.

          • SleepingDuck

            I’m not arguing that Lane is good as his position as Sheldon. What I’m trying to argue is that Lane still hasn’t hit his ceiling

        • RIP illa

          I think there’s a valid point in saying that while we had a reasonably decent draft position, in one draft, and a great position in the last…that we have not nailed down a “superstar” or dominant, game changing player yet. However we still had two good drafts!!! I’m not as high, as some, on last years draft. Yet it was still a good one. Plus last year was a kinda weird draft class, and I don’t mind not getting a “superstar” due to I think we were and are trying to build a solid core and foundation. But I do see the need for us to start locking down an elite player or two in hopefully this year’s draft and some of the following years.

      • daggolden

        Fluker played well this year. He brought a nasty attitude to SD. Im just never sold on taking a RT at #4. I think that position can be manned by many journeymen. Playmakers should be taken in top 5.

  • GEAGLE

    I’m sure the Eagles will have Mathews on their big board, he is just really difficult to get a feel for where he belongs on the board. Good at everything, great at nothing. This is a deep and talented WR class, a lot of WR are going to look like sexier picks than Mathews, but this kid is legit. Kids going to be a really good NFL wideout if he gets in the right situation

    I think he is one of the hardest players in the draft to mock, because I expect some WRs to have significantly better combines, but this kid will be a better WR then a lot of them..He is a BALLER, so I can see him go in the 20′s, but I could also see WRs having a more impressive combine then him, pushing him back to mid round 2-early round 3…..really difficult trying to figure our which WR should be ranked ahead of him, and which should be ranked after him, but this kid IMO is a top WR prospect, who will be a better player than a lot of the prospects who look better on paper.
    ..
    Really curious to see how he does at the combine, but I expect him to put on a show and be one of the stand out performers at the senior bowl..

    I expect the eagles to have a representative at his pro day. I think we will give him a long hard look..and Vanderbilt also has a safety(Wolff range) who I expect us to want to look at

  • Will

    Write about the safeties at the Senior Bowl please Sheil and Tim………who’s the fastest, who’s most polished in his game ect….

  • Media Mike

    Sports science my rear end, I know what a wrist touch is for………….. to see if you get an invitation to be in bed with Ray Charles.

    • Maggie

      An invitation to be in bed with Ray could mean someone has a serious problem. must like lying about in coffins! ;~D

  • theycallmerob

    figured I’d share with the group what I shared with Sheil:

    Often, wrist and knee measurements (being mostly bone and not influenced by muscle) correlate pretty highly to body fat percentage, or at least one’s ability to carry weight. Those two circumferences in particular can predict an average frame/bone structure for an individual. Considering the scouts also have height/weight from the weigh-in, they can judge a player’s ability to add or lose weight.
    Here’s one article I found that explains the correlation a bit:
    http://jwilson.coe.uga.edu/EMAT6680Fa10/Johnson/Assignment%2012/Assignment%2012.html

    • Will

      Sports science at it’s finest…thanks Rob beautiful input was curious about the reasoning behind the measurements…

  • GEAGLE

    This article makes it sound as if Chip has final say on player personel? I heard rumors that Chip had final power, but the truth of our power structure has been a mystery for as long as I remember…either way, I do get the impression that we have a good working relationship/environment going at the Novacare complex, and that’s all that really matters..

    • theycallmerob

      I don’t think that’s it at all, I think the intention of the article was to show that Howie and the scouts do a lot of work all year to make it easy on the coaches now. It’d be tough if Chip went there with a blank notebook, and judged guys based on 1on1′s or how they look in shorts running route. After all these all-star games and combine and what not, I’m sure they all get back together and go over their notes

      • GEAGLE

        I didn’t mean that was the intention of the article…at some point everyone won’t be in total agreement over how to use a draft pick..I wonder in that case, who would call the shots? I heard rumors that Chip had final say, and I heard rumors that he didn’t….I always assumed scouts and Gamble narrowed down the prospects significantly, and Howie was only choosing between a pool of guys that gamble signed off on…but Howie making it sound like that’s what they do for Chip….doesn’t really matter because we should know by now, that we will never know the truth about our front office power structure

        • theycallmerob

          I mean, if you’re referring to the guy who is literally calling Goodell on the phone on draft day, I imagine Howie. But I also assume none of those picks are a surprise to Chip

          • George

            I read somewhere that the dept. gets people with ideal measurables, grade them, and that in the war room they show the board to chip and he makes the call. IDK if this is what actually happens, but I don’t really think we’ll ever know, and I dont care as long as it works

        • Tom w

          Everything I have seen in print said chip has final say on the 53 but contracts is Howie. Howie makes the board w personnel and input from coaches and they have a consensus on each pick but chip makes final call. That’s what I have read and heard.

  • theycallmerob

    BIG fan of Matthews…if we don’t go WR in rd 1, I sure hope he drops in the 2nd

    • GEAGLE

      Getting him in round 2, after adding Barr/Attaboy in round 1 would be glorious

      • theycallmerob

        my thinking exactly

        • GEAGLE

          If We sign Byrd or Ward, we could then go Jarvis Landry in round 3…if not, we would have to try and land Buchanon..
          ..,
          Fortunately for us Mathews fans, this is a stacked WR class, and ATleast a handful should Impress at the combine more then Mathews…kids going to be a really good NFL player.
          .,
          Just picturing big boys Ertz,Mathews, Cooper, with tiny Desean moving all over the place in motion..

          • Media Mike

            Or you can hide DeSean inside of a bunch formation and bust him out from the middle of it. That is 100% the best way to get a great space player away from press coverage………….as long as you don’t go to the bubble screen well one too many times.

          • GEAGLE

            We don’t use bunch formations,,,maybe we incorporate them next season…but I’m not so sure.

          • Media Mike

            We already overload the crap out of one side of the field at times, adding a bunch wouldn’t be hard.

          • GEAGLE

            Not saying it would be hard, I just don’t know we believe in it..spread offense is the opposite of bunch formations…If we didn’t even incorparate bunch formations when we needed “man beaters” then there is a good chance that we won’t ever see many bunch formations….there were some points during the season where we struggled to beat man and we still didn’t go to the bunch sets…kind of makes me think they won’t be a part of our offense…

            Wonder if any of our new Duck fan friends can tell us how often they saw bunch sets at oregon..
            ..
            But I like the bunch sets, and agree 100% that we should use them with big WRs and Desean, I just don’t think we believe in them…hope I’m wrong

          • moesus

            Maybe our definition of bunch is different. I vividly remember a bunch route in the first NYG with Avant, Cooper and DJax on the right. Avant was in the front and Foles went to Jackson for like a 30 yard gain. They also were using the formation in the Denver game.

            I didn’t really remember Kelly running it at Oregon that much so I went back and checked Fishduck and found some instances. More bubble screens than downfield throws though.

            This is going by my definition of a bunch formation obviously, so you would have to do some of your own research if you disagree.

          • George

            Beautiful

      • Media Mike

        Here is draft tek’s list of 3-4 OLBs. Am I on crack for being more interested in Hubbard because of the pedigree, height, weight, and anticipated 40 time? Those other dudes right after Clowney don’t see big enough for what I want our ROLB to be.

        http://www.drafttek.com/2014-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-College-34-Outside-LBs-2014-Draft.asp

        • Media Mike
          • theycallmerob

            weird, after I refreshed it showed up under both posts.

            And I’d say watch more film of Hubbard…you’ll see why some folks are down on him.

            My hierarchy would go something like: Barr, Mack, Attaochu, Jeffcoat, Shazier, KVN, Reilly, Sam, Hubbard, Murphy, Lynch

          • GEAGLE

            Not seeing the link. I would go:
            1)Mack
            2)Barr
            3) Kony
            4) Attachuo
            5) KVN
            6) Jeffcoat
            7) Sam
            8) Murphy (unless his combine isn’t putrid)
            9) Hubbard…but I would be excited if we drafted him because it means our coaches think they can consistently get that talent out of him, but I personally believe in other guys more

          • Tom w

            Dunno if kony can drop. How bout the auburn kid. My sleeper is Ronnie powell from Florida. Number one olb te recruit out of high school. Started strong and tore his knee junior yr. played good last yr. 5th rd. But a beast!

          • RIP illa

            Ford the “Auburn kid” is also a 4-3 DE. So until proven, we can assume that his effectiveness in dropping in coverage wouldn’t be greater than that of any other potential OLB who has never been required to drop before. Plus Ford is getting knocked for being a tweener and more on the small side while being praised for his athleticism.

            Your boy Powell has torn the same ACL twice. I would pass just because of damaged goods.

          • Richard Colton

            I still think Kony is more of a 4-3, otherwise I like your list a lot. Attachou strikes me as more boom/bust, while KVN is more lower ceiling/higher floor. He’d be exactly the player we need – if we didn’t have Barwin.

          • RIP illa

            What was Cole’s drop percentage…like 23? And we know he can’t cover, so how could Ealy be any worse? Plus young enough to learn and transition. I think it would also help to have him when we mix up fronts. No more need to rely on Berwin, across from Cole, and his lack luster pass rush. This way we could put Ealy and Cole w/ their hands in the dirt on some plays.

            Ideally I would love for us to be a 4-2-5 nickel team w/ Cole, Cox, Curry/Logan, Ealy along the front. While we take Mecco out and leave our best two cover LBs in, being Kendricks and Berwin!!! For a 3-3-5 look, which we blitz out of a lot, would go something like Cole, Logan/Thornton, Cox (w/ Curry subbing in for whomever). Behind them, Berwin, Kendricks, and Ealy. With Ealy being our main blitzer if he shows that he needs time to develop in coverage.

      • Tom w

        Keep an eye on the wr from Fresno at in rd 2 and or martavius in rd 3 …. Howie loves USC guys and chip loves PAC 10 so it doesn’t suprise me about the USC wr … Talent wise I think he brings more to the table than Watkins but that’s just me. I figured we would want more size though

    • GEAGLE

      I want two WRs drafted in the first 4 rounds, to compliment Cooper,Desean and Ertz..

      I want a big body WR like Mathews,Evans,Benjamin, A-Rob
      ..
      And I want a smaller Burner like Brandin Cooks,Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckam.

      This year we need Maehl and Damaris upgraded so I want our pass catchers to look something like this:
      Cooper
      Desean
      Mathews
      Landry
      Brad Smith
      Avant (pay cut)
      maybe Maclin if we do him a small budget favor
      ..
      Celek
      Casey
      Ertz
      Colt Lyeria
      ..
      2015 offseason
      Upgrade Brad Smith and Avant, Celek

      By 2016 offseason, if we draft and develop the right WRs the next two years, we will be ready to move on from Desean, Coop, or both if they are declining..

      • RIP illa

        That’s seriously too many resources tied up into one position group. Come on…2 in the first 4??? Not saying it can’t happen, but damn…that’s taking a hell of a lot from the defense, which still needs to be upgraded btw.

      • feckyou

        This a joke?

        Kelly already said that he can put anyone in there and it will work, and that he’ll only draft defense for the most part. Burning two picks on wide receivers is irresponsible and won’t help the team at all.

        • Dys

          Out of curiosity, may I get a link for where Kelly said he would mostly draft defense?

          • Dominik

            I can’t speak for feckyou, but it sounds like something I linked to over at Igglesblitz. Colin Cowherd is talking about that Chip said three or four years ago to pals at Oregon that he doesn’t understand that NFL teams investing 100m dollar in a QB when he could make the system work without that.

            He also said that he’d draft defense heavy in the draft (because he doesn’t need great talent on offense with his system). But the 2013 draft class speaks a different language, I guess.

            Here’s the link:

            http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=10258651

            Around minute 28, if I remember correctly.

          • Dys

            Awesome, Thanks! By the way, your memory was spot on for the time mark.

            It is a bit hard to know how much to take from Chip telling a few friends he wouldn’t invest heavily into an offense without knowing the context. This was also 3-4 years ago and now he’s had a full season as an NFL coach, there’s no telling if he’s learned something in that time that has made him change his mind. Only time will tell.

      • Sig

        I tend to a have a similar stance, not necessarily 2 WR in the first 4 rounds, but I could see Kelly adding OL/WR early. I feel that over the next few years Kelly will develop one of the most talented offensive rosters in the NFL, with a middle of the pack defense.

        As long as Billy D can keep developing late round picks, and Howie can fill need through FA, we can use a lot of our early picks on impact offensive players.

      • OregonDucker

        Benjamin or Mathews would fit the bill quite nicely.

    • cliff henny

      let’s not forget about the 2 lsu boys. some of this is prisoner of the moment, or who’s at sr bowl. bet if landry and beckham got to run around, sheil would be writing nice articles. i like Matthews, but there will be a WR falling to 2nd or 3rd rd that will become an awesome pro. hope eagles snag him

  • Tag

    Hey Sheil, looks like you’ve got a good mix of douchebags theycallmerob,GEAGLE, SleepingDuck
    anchored down your comment section. Jeez can’t even make a comment. These cockroaches will call you names just as a low life scrubs they are.

    • theycallmerob

      [p.s.] you only named 3, only half the downvotes you received. Whining is a bad look.

      • Tag

        Aww…hurts my feeling…pshhh

      • Tag

        Ill be civil and end the conversation here…no point of arguing with an immature twat.

        • Richard Colton

          announcing to the world your intention to be civil, followed up with “twat” – but hey, you used an ellipses. Thanks for contributing nothing.

    • SleepingDuck
    • Tom w

      Don’t even get me started troll … Your reaching and it’s sad. Get a life.

    • Chris

      Complaining that they call you names, but you call them douchebags. Not a good way to get your point across.

      Also, I downvoted you. Hate that downvotes are anonymous.

    • theycallmerob

      shame we only get 1 down vote

    • cliff henny

      i agree…finally someone has the internutz to call these guys out!

    • A Roy

      You forgot to include Tag in your list.

    • theedevilsadvocate

      just do what i do call them all stupid dummy heads!!!!!!! lol or try insulting them back why be a baby about it… thats not philly son…

    • peteike

      you must have started something and not liked how it finished. These guys are rock solid in terms of talking shop, Ive been discussing things with them for a long time now and they do not go out of their way to attack anyone unless it devolves to that. Even then they really dont dish it until its deserved or goes that way. Now the Vick debates were another story and I was as guilty as the next as were all sides.

  • Tom w

    Heard Mathews had a horrible day one from Jeremiah mayock and some other scouts but rebounded okay today. From what I saw looked like he didn’t create any separation for the Florida corner on a one on one drill. Think he is a day 2 guy but vandy was always trailing and throwing in sec so I think his numbers are inflated. Rather grab one of the 7 juniors even martivius Bryant in the 3d or my boy from Fresno st.

    • Javi Echie

      From everything I’ve read Matthews has been far and away the most impressive wr throughout the senior bowl. Adams from Fresno St has very inflated numbers since Fresno was one of the top teams in passing attempts and no way I take him over Matthews. Good reference on Bryant I been preaching for this kid for a while I like his game alot

    • RIP illa

      Day one? They didn’t do anything but get measured. How could that be horrible unless he came in less than as advertised and out of shape?

  • theycallmerob

    Wonder how this will effect some players? Anyone still still Manziel is likely, besides Prisco?

    from Kempski:

    Eagles GM Howie Roseman was nice enough to spend some time with
    reporters today after one of the practices, and he spoke about the
    importance of bringing in high character players.

    “You want to make sure that you’re bringing in guys who will fit into
    your culture,” said Roseman. “Right now we have a good culture, and
    that’s the fun part of it. You want to make sure you continue that, and
    you don’t want to bring in anyone who is going to rock the boat. It’s
    such a team sport, with 53 guys coming togther. When you think about
    where all these guys come from, it’s different backgrounds, different
    cities, and you have to fit them all in. I think that’s why being a head
    coach in the NFL is such a tough job. It’s our job to make sure that
    we’re not bringing in outsiders who rock the boat.”

    • anon

      Dies that mean you don’t take a guy like Richard Sherman?

      • Maggie

        Richard Sherman does not rock the boat within his team. In fact, he has been quite vocal about wanting his own teammate, safety Earl Thomas, to be Defensive Player of the Year. The “media” loves to play up confrontational or controversial crap to boost ratings. I live about 2 hours from Seattle and Sherman is well-liked by his teammates and the community in general. He speaks in schools about getting an education and makes many appearances on behalf of the Seahawks. Most of the time, his talking is quite amusing. And he very well could be “the best corner in the league.”

        • anon

          point well taken.

        • OregonDucker

          Truth Maggie! Well said.

  • theedevilsadvocate

    omg you guys must have really pissed someone off or they are really bored and feel the need to downvote every single post. probably a vick loving foles hater though none the of the convo has anything to do with that seems like the obvious answer… unless it was me buahahahaha!!! no just playing it wasnt me but im gonna downvote my self just so i dont feel left out. lol