10 Observations: An Eagles Slant To the Playoffs

NFL: NFC Championship-San Francisco 49ers at Seattle Seahawks

Here are 10 observations with an Eagles slant from Sunday’s conference title games:

1. I think if the Seahawks and 49ers played 10 times, they would probably split five and five. Or maybe San Francisco would win six and Seattle would win four. But the Seahawks made the big play at the end to advance. If Broncos-Seahawks comes close to being as entertaining as the NFC title game, we’ll all be happy. Denver opens as a 2.5-point favorite. My initial thought? Peyton Manning, for as well as he played yesterday, is going to have a tough time against that Seattle defense. On the other hand, while the Seahawks’ offense got things going in the second half, they have been up-and-down on that side of the ball. I think we have ourselves a good matchup for Super Bowl XLVII.




2. Even though the 49ers are not moving on, a lot of talk today will be about Colin Kaepernick. For much of the evening, he carried San Francisco's offense, running 11 times for 130 yards and completing 14 of 24 passes for 153. But he faltered late. The 49ers' last four drives ended in a punt, a fumble and two interceptions. I didn't have a problem with Kaepernick's final throw. That was just a great play by Richard Sherman. But the earlier one where he didn't see Kam Chancellor dropping was a bad throw/bad read and led directly to a Seahawks field goal.

3. Having said that, Kaepernick had some spectacular moments. He looked like Randall Cunningham with his long strides on a 58-yard pickup in the second quarter. And Kaepernick somehow found Anquan Boldin for a 26-yard TD in the third. I realize it's tough to win when your QB turns it over three times, but Kaepernick deserves credit for the plays he made as well.

4. If you're tired of re-hashing the whole Brandon Graham over Earl Thomas thing, I've got a new hipster draft complaint for you to recite: Daniel Te'o-Nesheim over NaVorro Bowman. That one was also in the 2010 draft. The Eagles took Te'o-Nesheim with the 86th overall pick (third round), and he lasted one year (one sack) in Philadelphia before moving on to Tampa. Bowman, meanwhile, went five picks later to the 49ers. What a game and what a season for the Penn State product. Bowman suffered a knee injury in the second half, but finished with 14 tackles, a sack and a QB hit. He was everywhere during that game.

5. One more draft note: I wonder how much interest the Eagles had in Patriots outside linebacker Jamie Collins. He seems to have a Connor Barwin-ish skill set. Collins (6-3, 250, 33 3/4-inch arms) had the measurables the Eagles value. He was taken in the second round with the 52nd pick. Maybe if he slipped to No. 67, Collins would have been the Eagles' choice instead of Bennie Logan? Something I'll try to look into.

6. I hear a lot of excuses being made for Tom Brady - most notably that he doesn't have a lot of weapons around him. If you're comparing his supporting cast to Manning's Broncos, sure, that's true. But I must have been watching a different game than many of you. I thought Brady left a lot of plays on the field. Early on, he had Julian Edelman open deep and missed him. Later in the first half, he missed Edelman deep again. The Broncos had the 21st-ranked pass defense in the league during the regular season and were playing without starting cornerback Chris Harris. You have to do better than three points in three quarters if you're Brady - especially with Manning on the opposite sideline. If a younger QB (Nick Foles?) played that game, he'd be getting criticized today.

7. Speaking of Foles, in the loss to the Saints, he took a costly sack that made Alex Henery try a 48-yard field goal that he missed. Did you notice a similar sequence in the Patriots-Broncos game? Brady took a sack and lost 11 yards, setting up a 47-yard Stephen Gostkowski attempt. The only difference? He made his. The moral of the story: Playing QB is hard, and even one of the greatest of all-time makes some mistakes that Eagles fans see from their second-year signal-caller.

8. While Sherman is stealing a lot of headlines this morning, a huge play that deserves some attention is Marshawn Lynch's 40-yard TD run. Here were the Seahawks' possessions before that score: fumble, punt, punt, field goal, turnover on downs. Lynch met rookie safety Eric Reid in the hole, bounced it to his right and took off for the score. Big play at a big time.

Serious question though: Where does one even get something like this?

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If I told you that you had to somehow obtain a Skittles costume in 48 hours, would you be able to do it? I wouldn't know where to begin.

9. If you're looking for a reason why Sherman went off post-game like he did, this might provide some of the explanation:

Harbaugh, of course, coached Sherman at Stanford.

By the way, no one goes from "I'm throwing a tantrum! Leave me alone!" to "Hey! Everybody on the sideline back up!" quicker than Harbaugh. One second he's going nuts pleading for a Russell Wilson intentional grounding penalty. The next, he's telling everyone to calm down.

10. And some quick-hitters to close it out:

* Love this, and I wonder if the Eagles have a similar policy:

Wilson knew he had an offsides penalty and decided to take a shot downfield to Kearse for a 35-yard TD. Smart play by the Seahawks, and it gave them their first lead of the game in the fourth quarter.

* I see a lot of people on various social media platforms ripping How I Met Your Mother for recent episodes. I maintain that show was always horrible and never funny. It pains me that so many people have backed it over the years.

* Hey Chevy, ripping on veggie burgers? Really? That's the best you could do? They are a great source of protein, and if you find the right ones, they're delicious. Said in a better way:

* I am not sad that the 12th Man thing is over since the Super Bowl will be played in New Jersey. I get that it's loud in Seattle, but that was a classic case of the media running a storyline into the ground.

* I thought Erin Andrews did a brilliant job with her follow-up to Sherman after the game: "Who was talking about you?" she said in a "What the *&^% are you even talking about?" tone.

* Poor Phil Simms was getting ripped up and down my Twitter timeline during the first game.

As I said...

* The mesh (or rub/pick) play that the Broncos and Patriots ran all game long should look familiar. That was a staple in the Eagles' offense against man coverage all season long.

* I'm down in Mobile, Ala. for the Senior Bowl, but flew into Gulfport, Miss. As I took a shuttle from the airport to my rental car, a sign on the side of the road said: Welcome to Mississippi: The Birthplace Of American Music. Seconds later, the shuttle drive was bumping Milli Vanilli's Blame It On the Rain through the speakers. I'm not going to lie. I was singing along in my head.

* Following the Broncos' win, the cameras showed Eli Manning celebrating with his Dad at the game. Why do I feel like if that were an Eagles QB cheering for his brother's victory we'd be talking about it all day on sports-talk radio? Especially if that QB was coming off a 27-interception season.

* I think Terrance Knighton would have been a better nose tackle option for the Eagles than Isaac Sopoaga when both were free agents last offseason. Then again, I'm not sure Pot Roast would have been all that crazy about the smoothies and nutritional guidelines at the NovaCare Complex. Either way, he played a fantastic game vs. New England.

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  • G_WallyHunter

    All of 7 should be bolded and highlighted.. you guys are producing way too much this morning. Great read here, Bowman, laugh out loud at that pick, teo Nashim, oh Andy..
    Thanks for making this Monday a little less crappier than usual..

    • Media Mike

      I cannot say I was “all over” Bowman as the guy we should have picked there, but I clearly remember screaming at the TV when Te’o Nashim was selected. Such a horrible overreach for a guy with no production on the field.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Ya crap, we all have the hindsight 20/20, I didn’t know of bowman back then, just sucks to look back at now. Regardless, no matter how many other picks Sheil wants to mention, none will top Earl because of the dire need that year and the complete ignorance from Eagles FO (Andy) from making the pick that needed to be made, not BG.
        it’d be nice to drop past drafts altogether, given a new coaching staff and FO structure, it would make sense, but never going to happen with this fan base.

        • Media Mike

          Ha ha. To be 100% honest I was excited for Brandon Graham because I thought we were drafting a perennial double digit sack player.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Great keeping that honesty lol, I wanted Earl real bad, I did what 90% of fanbase did, saw it happen on TV and put both hands in air, tilt head, confused look at TV…
            Mind you, I was excited about BG as well, thought it was going to be a great DL pick..

          • Media Mike

            Yeah, and I didn’t dislike Earl at all, but I usually default to the mindset that a great pass rush solves every other issue including but not limited to world hunger and cancer.

          • Hurricane

            Brandon Graham, meet Larry Hughes…

          • JReamer

            While I was completely disappointed that Earl Thomas was not the pick, I was someone optimistic about Graham as well. It did seem like we were getting a very good pass rusher.

    • cliff henny

      yup, a 3rd rd pick and i go ‘who the f?’ is pretty hard to do.

  • Media Mike

    Really with the apologist routine for Kaepernick? Bum had a 56.4 rating and a pile of turnovers. The lone TD pass was a knuckle away from being picked off if you look at Thomas’s hand on the replay.

    • G_WallyHunter

      He made some blunders no doubt, that interception was just so gross, especially after that huge stop on the goalline, just give it back. He did, though, make some crazy throws to keep them in it. Guys got a damn bullet, hate him as a person (especially after what he decides to wear to postgame), but damn he can ball out..

      • Media Mike

        56.4 rating. “Balling out” is nice if you’re working for And 1, but he needs to stop looking to run so much, learn to set his feet better, and make consistently accurate throws if he wants to be taken seriously as a quarterback.
        Also, the TD to Boldin was a knuckle away from being intercepted.

        • Coatesvillain

          C’mon! That TD to Boldin was a great pass. I think Kap deserves a fair amount of criticism today, but not for that TD pass. That was incredible.

          • Media Mike

            Thomas had that TD pass dead to rights and just missed getting it by a knuckle. Seriously. If Thomas gains about 1/4 inch in elevation that pass is picked off.

          • Coatesvillain

            But that’s a throw we’ve seen strong armed QBs make for years. I’m usually for process over results, but when strong armed QBs have faith in their ability to squeeze the ball and it works I tend to side with them. That’s something Aaron Rodgers makes a living on.

          • Media Mike

            That’s fair. But I think if you were to ask Thomas about that ball, he’d be of the mind that he’d like a 2nd shot at it.

          • moesus

            Both of Kaepernick’s feet were off the ground when he threw that ball. Terrible decision that just happened to work out. If it were picked, everyone would be talking about how it was a bad play. His arm strength is ridiculous though.

          • Media Mike

            One knuckle of Thomas’s hand higher of a jump and that ball is picked off.

          • Andy124

            Thomas actually made contact with the ball. If Foles throws a pass for a td that a defender manages to graze, it “should have” been intercepted.

        • GEAGLE

          Brady, Wilson, KAp….none of them played to a level you would think we would see in a championship game….no way you watch yesterday’s games and think, man if only we didn’t have Foles

        • G_WallyHunter

          Agree, not saying he had amazing game just that he can ball out. As Coates said well above, he made some crazy plays to keep them in the game and then made some real bad QB moves… In the end, he can ball out but I’d still MUCH rather Foles, duhhh, Capernic is a diva drama queen get that crap out of here. The guy put more preparation into his postgame attire than into his game preparation..

        • Token

          Ive heard it described as the Madden era. Thats why so many get so excited about guys like Kaep. He was balling out because he almost ran for more than he passed.

          I think its been this way for a long time tho. The running QB will ALWAYS get people overly excited.

          • Media Mike

            And hopefully leave them very disappointed.

  • Token

    lol just as I thought…. The Kaepernick fluffing will continue to be out of control.

    It goes back to Cosell’s comment. This running around blinds everyone to his actual ability as a QB, like Wilson.

    He had 3 4th quarter turn overs. Thats about as bad as it gets folks. Couldnt do anything but run for most of the game before that. Yet he carried the team. Was spectacular….. please.

    From the same people who will pick apart Foles for throwing for 300 yards.

    Cant wrap my head around it.

    I for one and glad we dont have one of these running QBs. Id much prefer my QB try to emulate the style of the QBs in the early game.

    • Media Mike

      I call your trashing of this scramble garbage and raise you the hope that other teams see your words and stop drafting guys who run around in that manner and never learn how to pass properly.

      • Token

        Ive seen todays apologist narrative is that the last throw was great….it was just a superhuman play from Sherman.

        WHAT?!

        Go back and watch it. A corner cant be more glued to a WR than Sherman was to Crabtree. It would have been hard to not make a play on that ball. Plus hes throwing it with 30 seconds left and two timeouts from the 20 yard line. Miserable decision.

        • Media Mike

          And it wasn’t 4th down and the Niners had two timeouts left. Why throw into the endzone there?

        • NineseveN

          That and if there’s a guy that you don’t throw that ball at that stage of that game in the vicinity of, it’s either Revis or Sherman (or really, based on 2013, Boykin). Stupid play by a mediocre quarterback who escapes mediocrity by running around and playing behind one of the best defenses in football.

          • Token

            There it is at 2:30.

            As tight of coverage as you will see. With probably the best CB in the game. But yea……..great throw.

          • George

            Look at kaep’s eyes…GLUED to crabtree

          • Media Mike

            Correct.

    • cliff henny

      R Wilson gets alot of leeway too. talk about playing qb with zero pressure ever. Foles falls down 10, better cut into that lead ASAP, Wilson has quaters to play with, and defense will probably gift him 7 at some point.

      • Media Mike

        The thing Wilson does, far more often than Kaepernick, is reset his feet to look downfield to complete a pass rather than running. Jim Miller did a side by side with their passing stats the other day on Sirius to underline how it’s clear that Wilson is superior to Kaepernick.

        • Maggie

          Are you saying Wilson doesn’t “hold the ball too long?” Hmm.

      • Token

        I think Ive said enough what I think of both. So very overrated. Did you see the Cosell comments I posted? He hit it right on the head.

        Its very much like Vicks career. Never a good QB. But if your runs are on ESPN people think you are good. Kaep is so close to Vick as a player its scary. In damn near all ways.

        Im reading that SEA offense “got it going in the second half”. Did they?

        I remember Lynch had a long TD.

        Other than that it seems they were begging SF to take the game. I guess there was the 4th down TD. I think they ended the game with two bad drives, but I could be forgetting.

    • Coatesvillain

      Did I read a different article?

      Kaepernick made mistakes down the stretch and Sheil pointed it out. Especially how drives stalled late. The Cliff Avril strip sack occurred because Kap held onto the ball too long against a great secondary. He is still very much a work in progress who needs to improve as a QB.

      That said he made a huge number of plays that carried the 49ers throughout. Both things can be true. There are some plays he made that no one else can make. Then others he misses that you expect a QB to make.

      • Token

        Maybe you did. Read #2 and #3. As I said, the narrative today will be that the last throw was amazing, but Sherman is just so good. Go back and watch the play. It was a terrible decision. A ball most CBs could at least knock down given the tight coverage Sherman had.

        And he “faltered late”? Id say thats a understatement. 3 4th Q turnovers. Bad ones. Does it get worse?

        • anon

          Even good passers look bad against Seattle. Sure gameplan was to run the ball.

          • moesus

            Yeah Gore couldn’t do anything. Those designed runs for Kaepernick had Seattle reeling but when it came time to take advantage of it with his arm…..he couldn’t.

          • Token

            Thats a bad argument. It would make sense if Kaep was good any other time. He completed 58% of his balls this year. Hes never been a good passer of the football.

        • theycallmerob

          Bad read/throw just before too, would have been INT by better DB (or Boykin)

        • Uncle Wonder

          Youre kinda viewing the play in a bubble. Objectively speaking…here are a cpl points you have to factor in:

          1. Harbaugh made the the call. There were 30-35 yards btwn LOS and bk of the end zone. i would imagine the idea was that they were short on time and needed a TD, and the shorter the field got the harder to get in the end zone so he wanted to take a chance over the top. You can 2nd guess the call but he had a reason for making the call against maybe the best D in the league.

          2. When you call the fade, you throw the fade…the othr routes are just decoys, the only way the fade doesnt get thrown is if the snap is bobbled. No time to think, just throw or else the WR will be out the back of the end zone by time the ball gets there..a fade is always a 50/50 throw anyway. the WR had a step on Sherman at the top of the route but he recovered…great play by a top 2 or 3 CB in the league, but the throw was there.

      • jon h

        It was actually the defense that carried the 49ers.

      • Travis Papa

        Thought I’d like to weigh in on kaep. I’m somewhat fond of the guy considering he won me a fantasy title (needed 12pts & he got like 24 or something). I was real high on him after last season & thought he would take a big step forward this yr with a full off-season as the starter. I wasn’t committed enough to over reach my draft position on him however & one of my buddies got him instead because Graham fell in my lap in the top of the 3rd. I immediately went into gm mode trying to swing a trade for kaep downplaying him as a matchup situational player I didn’t believe it myself til wk8 & didn’t wear my buddy down into believing it also til wk10 but I got him for nothing because in part my buddy had Foles oddly enough. ultimately that’s how I used kaep & Ben at qb flip flopping on wkly matchups to my title. He was good against bad teams and bad against good teams atleast statistically which makes for an average qb no level of consistency in spite of competition.

    • GEAGLE

      Yeah it’s crazy…don’t understand how the hell anyone could praise KAp today…yet if FOles played like that, the people praising KAp would be calling for us to draft N.icks replacement,..I mean its a JOKE. This kid made it to the SB last year, has an extra year on FOles, yet we appologize for KAP but hold Nick to some crazy standard? Smh

      • cliff henny

        we see foles getting better. arm stength, reading coverage, ball security, pump fakes moving safeties, etc…just wonder if kaep or wilson are getting better? dont watch much Seattle, but kaep looks like same guy, backed by maybe best roster in football. when his legs get going, he can light it up. wilson, i just see an awesome defense backed by lynch.

        • Media Mike

          Correct. Especially with Kaep. The trick with a guy who can run is to teach him to use that athleticism to get to the best place to reset one’s feet and keep one’s eyes downfield while doing so. Kaep simply runs to run and hearing Greg Cossell murder him over it is great. I cannot wait to listen to Ross Tucker’s show on Thursday morning.

        • Token

          SEA offense has been sputtering for a couple months now.

          One thing, it seemed to me that SEA has to roll Wilson out a bunch just to get him lanes to throw. I have no chart showing this so maybe im exaggerating how much they did it. Just seemed like a lot. I assume thats tough for a offense since you are pretty much cutting off half the field when you do that.

        • JofreyRice

          I think there is something to the Vick comparisons. He still makes amazing throws at times–the velocity, location, etc. His decision making is really questionable though.

        • Maggie

          I do see more of Seattle and Wilson shows an amazing amount of maturity on camera. He sounds a bit like Foles, intelligent, hardworking, and more than willing to give credit to his teammates. Plenty of room for growth. Football smarts, not hair, lol. Spotty game yesterday, possibly a lot of nerves on the whole team.

    • moesus

      All Kaepernick does is stare down his one target and if he’s not open he takes off. His legs are definitely an asset but so are Wilson’s and he uses them in a totally different way. Multiple times that game Wilson avoided defenders and could have ran but he extended the play instead and found his receivers for nice gains. Neither one of them really looked good throwing the ball.

      • Media Mike

        But you hit the nail on the head with Wilson. Use legs like McNabb, Rodgers, Steve Young, etc., not like Randall, Vick, or Vince Young. Seattle will be the better team than San Fran in the long run due to the Wilson vs. Kaepernick dynamic.

        • GEAGLE

          Agreed….KAp reminds me of a guy who will go on to drive coaches to the unemployment line or loony Bin.
          .,
          We CRUSHED FOles for throwing the INT that Patrick Patteson dropped..KAp had like 5 passes in one post season where he practically threw the ball to the other team…luck wasn’t any better

        • moesus

          The play where Wilson scrambled around and hit Baldwin for the 50 yard gain was awesome. Kapernick would have just taken off, which might have still yielded a big gain but it’s like his brain turns off when he starts running. He doesn’t even pump fake as he’s heading to the line. Just runs.

          • Maggie

            What? Are you sating he didn’t “hold the ball too long”?

          • moesus

            I don’t even know what you are trying to say.

      • Maggie

        I agree that neither offense had a great game. Great moments, but not the whole game. Seattle’s offense must play better in the Super Bowl. Go Hawks, since can’t say go Eagles. Lol. Both are birds of prey after all! And I can’t stand the media slobbering over Manning. He doesn’t block for himself and he doesn’t throw the ball to himself. He also never plays defense.

    • JofreyRice

      There’s a lot more to playing QB than just running around. The turnovers were a killer, but he’s still a young player, trying to make plays. Probably could have gone to someone else, instead of a sorry receiver like Crabtree, in tight coverage by the best corner in the game, with so little real-estate,

      That being said, he wasn’t the worst QB playing yesterday. That was Tom Brady. I thought Wilson also struggled. I would have been throwing things at my TV if I saw Foles running backwards 15 yards every play. Seattle did a poor job of protecting him, but there’s no excuse for taking losses like that. They have a complete club up there–they are not putting games on his arm.

      Peyton reminds me of latter-day Michael Jordan. Has adapted his game to his physical talents. He’s just playing another game than everyone else right now. Also didn’t seem overwhelmed by the moment after the win. Looked like he was thinking about the next step.

      Seattle’s D is perfectly suited to play his WRs, though–I wonder if Belichick’s complaints about the pick plays will add scrutiny to that part of their offense in the SB; if they can’t pick, and get jammed at the line, it could be a very interesting matchup.

      • Token

        Peyton was the only good QB play I saw yesterday.

        Kaep will continue to get this treatment, maybe his whole career like Vick did. Hell, we still here stuff like Vick is trying to make plays or maybe this is the year he finally puts it all together.

        I dont see it. The kid has such a long way to go as a QB. Fine RB. But mechanics are bad, poor accuracy, bad decisions, one read and run. Theres just a bunch of work to do there.

        Wilson is just being Wilson. He plays that way most weeks.

        But my overall point has been, why are these two looked up to as the young stud QBs in the league? If thats the case id say its kinda sad. The same people that praise these guys pick apart everything that Foles does. And he does a bunch of stuff better than either one of them.

        • Andy124

          Speaking only to the KaepVick comparison, Colin is a better passer than Vick by any statistical measurement and it really isn’t close.

        • JofreyRice

          I didn’t think his accuracy was terrible yesterday. I’d have a big problem with the decision making, and from what you can tell by looking at his helmet, lack of progression reads.

          They both have tons of potential, yes, partially based on their ability to run. They both have obvious arm-talent, as well. Wilson has shown he can hit big plays that put up points in big spots. I think that’s the reason why they’re viewed as guys on the rise. They are buoyed by fantastic teams around them, which camoflauges some of the struggles.

          When comparing the perceptions on them with the perception on Foles, you also have to remember these guys are coming off very successful first seasons. I doubt there is going to be the same kind of scrutiny–which, I agree, borders on overcriticism–on Foles, if he puts up a season somewhat similar to what he did this year. Coming in as injury relief, into an offense that some viewed as Kelly’s “system”, after being an unheralded draft pick, I think some skepticism is natural. If his 2014 looks like his 2013, I think he’ll be viewed in the same way as Luck, Wilson, Kaep. I mean, he did make the probowl. it’s not like people are acting like he’s Christian Ponder, or something.

        • lewel

          He also was matched up against the worst D of all the remaining teams. But let’s just ignore that fact to feed our flimsy narrative.

        • Uncle Wonder

          Why does it have to be Kaep vs Napoleon? Why cant they both just be quality young playmaking QBs? Sure they play with different styles but y does one have to b torn down to show support for the other?

        • Jason

          Who’s looking up to them? The same people that are saying Chip Kelly isn’t good because he didn’t revolutionize the NFL?
          Enough, we get it. They are being talked about because they are/were still playing. It is no different then when the Steelers were winning. Whatever team is winning, if they have a half capable QB, then the Media will talk about them being good/great. Nature of the beast. Go beat a different dead horse.

      • GEAGLE

        In fairness to kAp, that 4th down conversion late, where he bought time with his legs and delivered a laser to Gore was a BIG TIME play at a crucial point later in the game….but plays like that will get overlooked when you throw the ball directly into Cam Chajcellors arms two plays later….

        Fact of the matter is kAp is a highly talented young player who will be close to reaching a crossroad in his career. HE will have to chose:
        1) Be honest with yourself that you are average at best in terms of pocket passing skills…you can continue to try and be superman and bail yourself out with your legs…or you can stop using your mobility for an entire offseason, and work on becoming a great QB from the pocket….but if you are just going to run around, making sexy, exciting plays all summer wearing your red jersey while your defense can’t touch him, then there will always be a limit to his success….He isn’t even close to being the pass that he needs to be. If he is smart he will allow himself to struggle all offseason as a passer, battle thru it…and he can always Fip the switch and take off dance the season starts

        • Philly0312

          Geagle…I agree that was a great 4th down throw….but go back and watch that play again, and tell me it was a good play. He had gore for a first down, sitting at the sticks, right when he hit his third step. The ball should have been out and been a first down. Instead he holds, holds, and the runs left and gore adjusts to the qb and CK Hits him. Great play- by gore. CK made it way too hard. If anyone watched these playoffs and came away thinking CK or Wilson are better than foles they are insane (not inferring you did…just my opinion and stating it randomly)

          • Michael Marks

            That’s what I’m saying. Game managers that can run..

      • Mr. Magee

        Re your last par: I wouldn’t bet on the pick play being penalized in the SB. See my other comments below…

    • jay ray

      “I’m glad my QB isn’t like THAT one”

      — Says the guy from his sofa watching other teams still playing with said QB.

      This is seriously the most homerific Eagles blog I’ve ever come across. Like, do you even realize how big of a baby you sound like? You wait until a team gets knocked out (in the final seconds of a ridiculously close championship game, mind you) and then confidently proclaim that they will never win because of their QB. LOL. That same QB nearly made back-to-back SB appearances. That same QB played against the BEST D’s in the NFC. How you think Foles would’ve faired, fan boy?

      • Philly0312

        Please…If Foles played for the 49ers they win that game. CK performances against those “top defenses” were all horrible. What does he have, 6 INTS or 7 vs Seattle alone this season? In 20 plus games, that’s all Foles has in his entire career. If this superbowl was in a warm weather climate I would predict a blowout for denver…because it’s in NYC I’ll go out on a limb and predict Seattle d takes home a championship.

    • Uncle Wonder

      Kaep wasnt great by any stretch, but he was the best player on the field yesterday…took a horrible angle on the 1st INT in the 4th, but I cant really fault him on the last play…he was the entire running game cuz Gore nvr got off the bus. Didn’t do enough to win though…but he was fearless…admirable attempt against the best secondary in the league and a hated division foe…hopefully the Iggs will be in the championship game next season.

      • Andy124

        but he was the best player on the field yesterday
        Absurd.

        • Uncle Wonder

          i meant offensively…defense was the star of the game obviously…

          • Andy124

            Ok, pretty big difference. I don’t agree with that, but I wouldn’t label it as absurd.

          • Uncle Wonder

            who would you say then? only other candidate i can see is mayb BeastMode but outside of one long run, he generally struggled…nowhere as badly as Gore though

          • Andy124

            Lynch, Wilson, Baldwin.

    • lewel

      HE PLAYED AGAINST THE BEST D IN THE NFL IN THE HARDEST VENUE TO PLAY AS A VISITOR.

      You can’t just gloss over that detail and pretend it doesn’t matter. Silly, silly homer.

      • Philly0312

        Sure you can. Silly idiot. Stop making excuses. Personally, the Eagles matched up great with either of those teams…The Saints were the only team in the NFC playoffs that scared me, and that was simply because they match up very well with the Eagles. Next year philly will have the opportunity to smoke both of these teams.

        • aub32

          Really??? We were basically shut down in the first half by the Saints and struggled in the 2nd half until NO lost their safety. Do you really think Foles would have picked seattle apart?

          • Philly0312

            Umm…yes. He didn’t need to pick them apart…He needed to complete easy passes and make more than one read. CK was horrible. Seattle D is great, but they are not 2001 Ravens great, or 1991 Eagles great. This was a 6 point game (would have been a lot closer without turnovers…and let’s not forget CK had two other fumbles that bounced back to the 49ers). So yes…definitely. Last I checked foles last pass this season was a go ahead td pass. And let’s not forget the fact that the saints had a pass d ranked in similar company with Seattle.

        • Maggie

          At least you used the word ‘opportunity’ because at this point in time, the Eagles do not yet measure up to the Seahawks D. And by this time next year Russell Wilson will be even better. So will Foles, but Wilson has a superior TEAM around him.

    • TNA

      Kaepernick is like Stafford with legs. If he had Megatron, he’d be alright. He’s got a cannon. And he’s fast (but not elusive like Vick). But his decision making speed and skill is pretty piss poor.

      • aub32

        Stafford has Megatron and hasn’t sniffed the type of success Kaep has had. How can you make that comparison?

    • ohitsdom

      One game. I think that was his first multi-interception game in his whole career.

    • truth be told

      If kaep didn’t run yesterday their offence wouldnt have moved anywhere.

      I would have loved to see one of those ‘pocket passers’ back there yesterday like Foles. Might have been similar to what we saw Brees do the week before….nothing.

  • Coatesvillain

    I’m a huge fan of Tom Brady, but he’s been getting away with a lot these last few years. I think anyone who has watched him can realize he’s not the same guy anymore. Always sad to see great players age.

    • Media Mike

      What I think really slapped Brady around this year was the lack of receiving talent coupled with a team that doesn’t really pass block that well. All things being equal, he’s still in the “Big 4″ of best QBs………….but he could continue to slip.

    • Token

      I thought he missed some throws yesterday.

      But man, look at that roster. What hes done this year with that is crazy. Manning and Brady are two of the best to ever do it.

      Was talking to a buddy last night whose one of those guys who thinks Manning isnt that great. That hes had elite weapons all his career. Geez, I feel bad for people that can watch him play and come away with that impression.

      • Coatesvillain

        I hope he’ll at least be able to look back and finally appreciate how great Manning was when he retires. To give all credit for the talent around him is insane. Sure, he’s had some great players but there’s never going to be another like him at that position.

        • Token

          Yea. We wont see many, if any, do it quite as well as Manning in our lifetime. Guy is just a great QB.

      • moesus

        Brady was definitely off, which was a shame because he missed some big plays. Game could have been much different if he hit that early play action to a wide open Edelman. He looked a lot better in the second half, which seemed to be a theme this year with NE.

      • Michael Winter Cho

        Brady’s had some stinkers, but put more receiving talent around him and he’ll magically get better, and look, better.
        That being said, as we all know, Father Time is undefeated.

        • Token

          They mentioned it during the broadcast, but Bradys arm has def gotten stronger over the years to me.

          Brady didnt play well. But its hard to bash the guy after what they accomplished this year, with that roster. Hes the anti Wilson or Kaepernick. They are in ideal situations and still suck. Brady has nothing to work with and got them to this spot.

    • anon

      Hard to say a player’s in decline when you go to 3 straight afc champ games.

  • GEAGLE

    No point in crying about not drafting Navarro…we didn’t even know what LBs were back then

    • Token

      Thats a shame for the guy. Torn ACL in the last game. Truly a great player. What a huge play stripping the WR like that.

      • Media Mike

        Yeah, I hope he’s back to 100% soon.
        But if he’d like to spend some rehab time helping Mr. Franklin return Penn State to a their rightful place as a yearly national title contender I think the spiritual lift he’d get from that would only aid his rehab process.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah, hate to see that happen to such a good dude..Navarro is playing for a base salary of only 800k this year( but he won’t get cut now that his contract starts to balloon

    • Explorer51

      That year PSU, true to its LInebacker U reputation, had two NFL worthy backers…Sean Lee and NaVorrow Bowman. And true to Andy Reid’s disdain for the LB position (remember when they let Trotter walk because MLB wasn’t that important in their D scheme?), we traded our pick to Dallas so they could draft Lee while we ignored Bowman and drafted T’eo. Worst part of this is that it’s not like Penn State was some little backwater school that no one, including presumably the Eagles decision makers, in Philadelphia ever heard of, particularly given the front page coverage PSU gets in the area.

      • GEAGLE

        Preach….

        I don’t even friggin understand how you devalue linebackers. They are like light heavyweight versions of prize fighters..they are the best athletes on the field: speed of a welterweight, power of a heavyweight…how the hell do you devalue the best athletes of a defense? Like I don’t understand

  • Media Mike

    I’m going to keep trashing Kaepernick and that style of play as we move forward into the draft and I can verbally abuse Johnny Football in the same manner. Then I can break it back out for Winston and Mariota for 2015.

    I really don’t want to wind up looking around at the NFL in 2016 or 2017 and seeing Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Rivers, and Brees all gone and replaced with scrambling guys. I’d love to see a league anchored by Foles, Luck, and Bridgewater.

    • anon

      How can you not like Winston?

      • Media Mike

        I hate FSU. Bowden is NOT the all time wins leader. Winston runs too much.

        • Andy124

          Up vote for the first two points.

          • Media Mike

            Thank you. FSU has been on my list for unrealistic views of their own program since the early 90s. PSU >>>>> FSU. Paterno >>>> Bowden.

    • moesus

      Manziel and Mariota are better passers than Kaepernick right now. Winston probably is too.

      • Media Mike

        Saturday does not equal Sunday. We’ll need to see those guys in the NFL. I don’t think any of them will enjoy great success unless they stop running.

    • GEAGLE

      Turn on the radio and a day won’t go by without you hearing eagles “fans” continue to talk about getting rid of FOles for Manziel or Marriotta.
      ..
      Heck, every day you will hear a fan say it was a mistake to not go back to Vick and that Vick would have won us a playoff game…it’s the craziest dynamic ever…

      • Andy124

        People be crazy.

        • GEAGLE

          I blame:
          ESPN
          Madden
          Racism

          • aub32

            Racism? Please tell me you are being sarcastic.

          • GEAGLE

            No…I,happen to think there are still idiots who root for the QB that has the same skin color as them…and this isn’t singling out Black fans..I saw the same disgusting Dynamic with White people wanting Kolb while Vick was clearly the better QB..

            I don’t know what it’s like to have my rooting interest shaped by a players skin color…but when I see Fans root for a player thats drastically worse then his competitor..I don’t know how else to explain BRAIN DEAD oppinions other then a trashy fan just rooting for the guy who resembles you the most

          • Will

            Please do not drag the race card in to football geez people grow up and enjoy the games with the finest athlete’s in the world competing to be the best…

          • GEAGLE

            Isn’t that the point I just made? That it’s ridiculous to drag race into the game? Unfortunately, you would have to bury your head in the sand like an Ostridge to think it doesn’t exsist…

            I don’t know how else to explain “fans” wanting the better QB on the bench..i happen to think that “fans” wanting FOles on the bench so we could go back to Vick, just as ridiculously absurd as fans wanting Kolb to play over Vick….

            Fans should ONLY want the guy that gives us our best chance to win a SB…and when I don’t see that out of fans in terms of QB debate, I don’t know how else to possibly explain it

          • Will

            Some people are dead set on a qb that can scramble…not the way to win a Super Bowl but fun for some to watch…but you have to ask yourself what kind of a teams win a Super Bowl? A great Defense, a strong run game and a pocket passer get it done pretty simple formula….

          • aub32

            Just because you may not understand a fans viewpoint does not mean you can just paint them as a racist. I am a Vick fan. At the start of the season I wanted him to start. That was based on football reasons. Others had less football reasons, but that doesn’t make them racist. Many of them are casual fans who would rather see Vick over some 3rd round pick who baely won one game at the time. Hell, if I had no rooting interest I would prefer watching Vick over nearly every QB in the league. He’s fun to watch. That’s more important to some fans. Just because you don’t get it or see things differently does not mean you throw out the race card.

          • Andy124

            Obviously there are people who root for one qb over another due to skin color. Obviously, that’s annoying as hell. But we’re not going to fix that here. I’d suggest we drop it.

          • GEAGLE

            If you root for ANYTHING other then the player who gives us the best chance to win a SB, then you are a DOPE who doesn’t deserve to have their opinion respected…This isn’t aimed at you..just speaking generally
            ..
            Wanting the better player on the bench can only have a few possible interpretations:
            1) highlights have skewed your views on what a quality player looks like
            2) racial motivation
            3) just generally too clueless to even know what the better player looks like…

            Sorry, but I have no respect for people that fit in any of those 3 categories

  • Coatesvillain

    The one thing I had in the back of my head is how different the Seahawks might look next year. They have a lot of guys playing on affordable (and rookie) deals. They’re going to have to start paying people, and they can’t keep everyone.

    Not sure exactly how the situation is with the 49ers, but I couldn’t help but think about this during and after the game.

    • Media Mike

      Kaep’s deal is no eligible for an extension. He’s put in his 3 years, been deemed the face of the franchise, and been the QB of a team that has won several playoff games. Kaep, if you use the Matt Ryan deal as a barometer, should be in line for a 7 year $140 million contract. In spite of my beliefs about his shortcomings, he’s the guy to whom San Fran has hitched their wagon. He’ll need to get paid.

  • cliff henny

    Sheil, i’m with you ‘HIMYM’. Barney scamming ladies is funny, but the whiney main character is ferociously annoying. reminds me of ‘Friends’ when Ross-centric’ episode would air.

    • GEAGLE

      Barney is LEGEN..wait for it….DARY!!!

  • Media Mike

    More importantly; I just improved safety and nose tackle!

    Round 1 Pick 22: Hasean Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama (A)
    Round 2 Pick 31 (DEN): DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 22: Keith McGill, CB, Utah (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 25 (S.D.): Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 28 (CAR): Jimmie Ward, SS, Northern Illinois (A-)
    Round 3 Pick 31 (DEN): Bryan Stork, C, Florida State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 24 (CINN): Lamin Barrow, ILB, LSU (A)
    Round 5 Pick 22: Antone Exum, CB, Virginia Tech (B)
    Round 5 Pick 29: James White, RB, Wisconsin (A)
    Round 6 Pick 24 (CINN): Denicos Allen, OLB, Michigan State (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 22: Billy Turner, OT, North Dakota State (C+)

    • Will

      How did you get the extra picks rd 3? FS Calvin Pryor might be there at #22 RD 1.. also we need a SS Dion Bailey,Craig Loston or Deone Bucannon RD # 2

      • Media Mike

        Traded down in the 2nd a few times.

  • Broadcasting Wisdom

    The biggest takeaway: Unless you’re a miserable pessimist, you realize the Eagles with one or two more pieces on defense can compete with anybody in the league behind NIck Foles at quarterback.

    I will say, I was impressed with how HARD those d-lines come after the quarterback, especially the D-ends. Not sure if they still had run-gap responsibilities, but they were flying around the offensive tackles and forcing the QB to move his feet on almost every pass attempt… jealous.

    • Media Mike

      Pocket collapsing NT. Playmaking safety. Mass Murder ROLB, Kicker.
      Add those three things to the current Eagles roster, and you’re looking at a title team.
      Hard to get all of them in the time period before your O-line starts to decline.

      • Will

        yup the glaring holes, man they have some great Safeties in Seattle…

  • GEAGLE

    If Wilson or KAp,ever have a FOles like Performance they will be ANNOINTED as NFL gods…when FOles does it, he just isn’t fast enough to play for Chip Kelly.

    The fact that today there are plenty of Eagles “fans” still drooling over Manziel is disgusting…part of me wishes these idiots would get what they ask for…
    ..
    Espn and madden football has brainwashed fans

    • aub32

      When did Foles face a D anywhere near as good as SF or SEA. That’s not a knock on Foles, but the level of competition matters. Do you think Foles would have had a much better passing day than Kaep yesterday. Foles struggled a bit againts the Saints before their S went down. Do you think he would have put up a 300 yard performance against Sherman & Co.?

      • GEAGLE

        All I know is if Luck,RG3, Wilson or kAp EVER LEAD the NFL in big plays down field While ALSO leading the NFL in least amount of turnover, I wouldn’t be able to turn on the TV…
        ….
        If luck or KAp ever play a playoff game without throwing an INT, you know the story would be: Luck was incredible, and his team mates didn’t make enough plays

        I seriously can’t even fathom how absurd the media would be if Luck were t have a 27TD, 2INT year….we are almost fortunate that FOles doesn’t have “name brand value” or the media would be making a circus about our young QB…I prefer flying under the radar..I get the impression that FOles has some silent assassin in him, and he will work to make everyone pay for their blatant disrespect

        • moesus

          Don’t throw Luck in with those two. He’s an actual QB who is still learning. Not to mention his WR corps was pretty bland. If he plays a playoff game doesn’t throw a pick, then they are going to win.

          • aub32

            So both Kaep and Wilson make it to the SB in their first 2 years, but thy aren’t real QBs?

          • moesus

            If you think they are the reason that their teams made the SB, then I don’t know what to tell you. I do think Wilson is a much better passer than Kaepernick, but his WR’s are average.

          • GEAGLE

            Friggin Trent Dilfer won a SB, sorrounded by less talent Lo

          • aub32

            The Texans had a good defense and run game. They won all of two games. Dalton has talent on both sides of the ball surrounding him. He never made it out of the first round. So yes. I do think the QB aka ‘the guy who touches the ball on every offensive snap’ has something to do with teams making the SB.

          • moesus

            Texans had the 20th ranked rushing offense, were 7th worst in points allowed and 9th worst in rushing yards allowed. That’s good to you?

            Dalton is a turnover machine. Kinda like Kaepernick yesterday.

          • aub32

            The Teaxns were so bad in points allowed because of the walking talking pick 6 they had playing QB. Kaep turned it over against the best D in the league. So yes he’s a terrible QB.

          • Explorer51

            With everything else staying exactly the same, give Wilson SF’s skill guys (Crabtree, Boldin, Davis, Gore) with SF getting Tate, Baldwin, whoever their TE is, and Lynch and the game last night is no contest. Kaepernick is a great talent but I’m not sure if he knows how to use the talent around him; right now, if he was on a team with an average to bad D, he doesn’t make the playoffs. This will be an interesting offseason for Kaepernick and the 49ers; will he use this loss to look at his mistakes as an incentive to improve?

          • Will

            Kap needed Seattle’s Defense to win…

          • aub32

            How does he not know how to use the talent? The offense became significantly improved once Crabtree came back. Boldin is overrated. He had a fantastic post season last year. Check his regular season stats. They guy had fewer than 900 yards and 4 TDs. Riley Cooper put up better numbers this season than Boldin did last year.

          • Explorer51

            I’m not sure your guy Kaepernick would say that Anquan Boldin is overrated. He had a terrific regular season in SF (85 catches/1179 yds/7 TDs) and he was clearly Kaepernick’s go-to-guy and his output didn’t diminish much after Crabtree’s return (two out of the last four games he was 9/149 and 8/136). In fact, I’d still take him over just about any other #2 WR in the league even at 33; his career #s in YPG and TDs/season best our #1 WR’s career #s (72.7/6.5 vs 70.3/5.3). Plus, he shows up for the post-season and, arguably, may be one of the toughest WRs in the last decade..though that last point is subjective.

          • Maggie

            Cannot completely agree. I would take Tate any day. Maybe in FA. Don’t know enough about Baldwin, except he CAME THROUGH when it mattered! Unlike Crabtree or even Davis. And I kind of like San Francisco.

          • Philly0312

            They are above average starters. Nothing more.

          • GEAGLE

            Luck is awesome….but that doesn’t change the fact that he has prematurely been ANNOINTED an NFl GOD!

            This convo is about perceived name brand value in today’s youñg QB…and in the context if THAT debate, FOles is grossly under rated, while othe QBs are highly over rated…
            ..
            I still think Luck has more potential then Nick does..but TODAY, I don’t know that I could say I would feel more comfortable going into a playoff War wit Luck then I am with fOlesy

          • ErtzSoGood

            Ahhh to be an Eagles fan. I actually agree with everything Geagle has said here today.

            No other QB in the history of the game has put up the kinds of numbers Foles has in such limited action, yet we’re still drooling over guys like Manziel?? We have our franchise QB and a damn good one at that. To argue whether or not his success is sustainable is very fair.. but c’mon

            The media crowns Wilson/Kaep as the next great kings of the NFL, right behind Luck.. meanwhile guys like Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh are probably WISHING that their QB’s could move the ball the way Foles does. I’m a huge fan of Luck, and imo, I think Foles is right behind him. The 49ers/Seahawks both have GREAT teams surrounding their young QB’s.. Foles is maximizing this teams potential with a roster that is not nearly as complete as it needs to be to contend.

            Wilson/Kaep are both grossly overrated and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a QB as underrated and criticized as Foles is…. I only hope he can use it as motivation to perfect his craft.

        • aub32

          I don’t see how that has anything to do with what I stated. No one is disputing that Foles had an awesome year, however it is worth mentioning that in many eyes he wasn’t even the most important player on the offense. He also put up his biggest numbers against bad teams when there was very little pressure. QBs don’t make names for themselves just by putting up stats. They do it by performing well in big games. Foles didn’t do that like Luck, Kaep, and Wilson have thus far. Also, I will point out Kaep and Wilson are doing it in the best division in football.

          • GEAGLE

            Luck may be the most important player on the colts offense, but I don’t see how you could even think of saying KAp and Wilson are the most important players on their offense….

            BEASTMODE, Frank Gore and those Olines showed up in the playoffs, that’s why they made it deeper then Nick..Shady and our line layed an Egg and FOles still led us back and left with the lead…somthing HAS to give! If the nation is going to continue annointing these young QBs as GODS, then Nick needs to be added into the discussion..OR if people still want to down play FOles, then they better stop talking about these young QBs as GODS!
            .,
            After this year, Luck should be the only one talked about as a better young QB then Nick…

          • Will

            The Eagles need a better Defense, people on here are over looking the importance of Great Defensive Football….Seattle’s Defense won that game for Seattle…

          • GEAGLE

            If we could have a mulligan against the saints ,,I wouldn’t d be asking our defense to play better…if I could change one thing from that game, I would ask shady and the Oline to SHOW UP

          • aub32

            I am glad you realize our offense lost that game, but please include Foles having a better day as well. Both Shady and Foles did not play anywhere near what was expected.

          • Will

            Your O-Line is 12th best in the league the Eagles lost the battle in the trenches which is why Shady couldn’t run, the Receiver’s couldn’t beat man press coverage….and your Defense was not good enough…

          • aub32

            There were times when the QB had time and did nothing. There were times when the QB made the wrong decision or sometimes no decision too many times. Better play from Foles would have resulted in a win. I thought he would play better. If you think he played one of his better games, then you must think less of him than I do, which is fine.

          • aub32

            Really? Because I am pretty sure Kaep destroyed GB the last two years as the most important offensive player on the team. Wilson took a back seat this year but had already established himself in last year’s postseason. You still fail to acknowledge that your boy Foles (my boy too) did not come up big in the too biggest games. In Kaeps first playoff game he made GB look stupid. Wilson mounted comebacks in his first two playoff performances (one of which the D did not hold onto late) They both followed that by winning 12 or more games and going to the NFC title game. They are legit. Foles is also legit, but he hasn’t done what they have in the playoffs against the best teams. So he isn’t as highly regarded. That’s fair. I don’t know what you don’t understand about that. Had Foles put on a performance like he did against Chicago in either Dallas or against the Saints, I could see why you are so upset. However, in many minds he was bailed out by the defense in Dallas and confused against the Saints D until it was too late.

          • Uncle Wonder

            Foles exceeded pretty much everyone’s expectations this year…I still will withhold judgment til maybe midseason nxt yr…Foles and more importantly Chip need to put in work this offseason. The league got a full look at this version of the eagles offense w Foles under center and best believe they will have something dialed up come opening day. Chip will have to stay ahead of the curve.

          • GEAGLE

            As if Chip showed more then 20% of his playbook this year lol

          • Uncle Wonder

            maybe he did…but what % of the rest of the playbook can Foles run? He said time and time again that the offense is tailored to the personnel…Foles is his QB and the second another QB is under center the O will be different…there is only so much that can be done in this league…everything there is to see has already been seen, so what will he do with what he has to work with? We will see next season

      • Andy124

        Obviously, I’m kind of in the middle on Kaep here. I think there a couple people really down on Kaep and a few others who are really just focusing on FOles vs. Kaep. So if FOles lost a game against the best D in the NFL where he threw for under 200 yards and had 3 turnovers to only 1 touchdown, what would you be saying about him today?

        • GEAGLE

          He would be talking bout drafting a QB, what else? :)

        • Philly0312

          I’m with GEAGLE on this one…If Foles played as bad as CK did everyone would be hoping the Eagles trade up for a qb. I get that Seattle is in the playoffs, but many would argue they had the best defense in the NFL this season. Look at their record, QB, and horrible oline and rbs. Foles played good against them. And while 200 yards, 2 tds and no turnovers isn’t the best game, he played well enough to win the game. He could have played better, but let’s not forget the Saints defense was ranked top 5 as well.

          • Andy124

            That’s basically what I’m saying.

            One the one hand, Foles would have been eviscerated for a similar performance. On the other, that doesn’t mean the Kaep should. Either way, eff Dallas.

      • Philly0312

        Dude, both the Saints and Cardinals defenses were ranked in the same zip code as Seattle and the 49ers. I would argue the 49ers defense is the weakest of the 4.

  • aub32

    I knew there would be plenty of Kaep hate today, but some of you crazy. The guy got no run support whatsoever, and he was pressured all day. Did he have the greatest passing day? No. The guy was playing the best passing D in the NFL on their home turf, where they only lost once the past 2 years. I can’t wait for that defense to shut down Manning and watch as you make excuses for how WRs couldn’t get open or the Broncos O line didn’t hold up.

    • Media Mike

      If that happens, great for Seattle. I’m expecting a great game with the two best teams in the NFL playing for the title.

    • Token

      You realize Kaep has played for a couple years now right? I dont think anyone is basing their opinion of him off just this game. This game was just more of the same. But your one of the huge Vick fans, so im in no way shocked you are a huge Kaep backer as well.

      • aub32

        So in less than 10 starts the guy takes his team to the SB. He then follows that by taking his team to the NFC title game and almost beats the best team in football in their own house. What’s not to like? The guy is a joy to watch and wins games. What do you have against a player like that? I’d much rather have him than Dalton or Ryan, who have both had more time and much less post season success with better offensive weapons.

        • Media Mike

          He is NOT a joy to watch. That type of scrambling garbage makes the game unwatchable.

          • aub32

            So your beef is with QBs who scramble. I got it. Then I shall not waste time discussing this with you any further as you choose to focus on how you want to see the game played rather than what actually happens on the field.

        • Andy124

          So what you’re saying is… Kaep’s regressing! lol

        • moesus

          The guy can’t pass. Not sure why you can’t see that. His stats are as pedestrian as they come (aside from his rushing) and SF wins because of their defense and running game. Gore couldn’t get going yesterday so Kaepernick ran (pretty impressively). When it came time to throw the ball, nothing but rubbish.

          • aub32

            He was playing the best secondary in the NFL in Seattle. They have made plenty of QBs look bad. He also played the majority of the season without much as far as receivers until Crabtree came back. Too many fans think that Boldin should have been enough. Look at his regular season numbers last year. There’s a reason BAL let him go.

          • moesus

            Obviously one would expect a struggle against Seattle but it doesn’t have anything to with the rest of the season. Just look at his game logs. Besides a few anomalies, they are garbage. People give Foles a hard time for beating up not great defenses but when Kaepernick does it, he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread. Then when he struggles, it was because of the defense that they played.

          • Andy124

            Didn’t he have a regular season rating of like 91.6? That’s not exactly lighting the world on fire, but it’s a far cry from garbage.

          • moesus

            Yeah he did. Passer Rating is a crap stat though. His per game averages were under 200 yards (and that is with a 400+ yard game against GB) 1.3 TD’s and .5 INT’s. He only broke 200 yards 5 other times and had 9 games with 1 or 0 TD’s. That’s the definition of a game manager right there.

          • Andy124

            Passer rating, while not perfect, is far from a crap stat (as opposed to espn’s QBR which is complete crap) and it’s certainly more telling than the “counting” stats you mention.

            The thing people seem to ignore is that with any statistical analysis, a significant sample size the results become more and more representative of reality.

          • moesus

            It’s not more telling at all. It’s the very definition of those stats.

            Check this out – vs ATL 61.9% Completion, 197 yards and 1 TD (no INT’s) That’s his season averages. 108.6 Rating.

            Now the next week at ARI 61.8% Completion, 310 yards and 2 TD’s (no INT’s) Statistically this is a much better game, yet his rating was 111.2 How does that make any sense? While it’s cool to put a number on a passer’s performance, it’s not really a good measurement. Since you take so much stock in it though, his Rating is down 7 points from last year with a larger sample size. Representative of reality? I think so.

          • Andy124

            The rating is all about what you accomplish with the attempts you have, rather than just the total number of yards. While he threw for more yards in the second game, he needed a lot more attempts to do it. He actually had a higher yards per attempt in the first game.

            It’s funny that you bring up his last two games during a conversation in which you labeled him as garbage. His rating was well in excess of 100 in both of those games. And in fact, in 5 our of his last 6. His completion % was over 60% in those 5 games. The lone exception was Seattle.

            I’m sure the return of Crabtree has a lot to do with that. I think it would be an interesting conversation to explore if one receiver making that big a difference should be considered a fault in the qb or just a credit to the wr. Little of both I guess.

            Since you take so much stock in it though, his Rating is down 7 points from last year with a larger sample size. Representative of reality? I think so.

            I think so too. As I hinted above, the absence of Crabtree needs to be factored in. I’m not prepared to take a stance on exactly how he should be factored in though.

          • Maggie

            Of course you conveniently forget that there are coaches on the sidelines CALLING PLAYS. It was even noted on Sunday that San Fran was CALLING running plays for Kaepernick

          • moesus

            Actually I didn’t. We were only talking about passing there and I have mentioned multiple times in this thread how effective Kaepernick was at running, both designed runs and his one receiver being covered.

          • aub32

            Yea but clearly that’s only passer rating takes in account for running the foo….wait doesn’t passer rating exclude all his succuess running the ball and therefore be an accurate measure of his job solely as a passer in which he finished in the top ten and ahead of even the great Tom Brady?

          • Andy124

            You realize I was defending Colin don’t you?

          • aub32

            Yes. I was piggy backing off of your statement.

          • aub32

            He also played Seattle twice, CAR, and ARZ twice. You could also throw in the Rams in which he faced the likely DPOY twice. Foles faced that level of competition once, Kaep did it for almost half of his games.

          • moesus

            Definitely can’t argue with the strength of schedule. I’m not writing the dude off, he could still become a good passer and then with his legs, he’d be a handful. Right now though, no one besides GB is concerned with him beating them with his arm. AZ was also a bit overrated on defense. They were middle of the pack against the pass and the Rams were even worse (although still middle of the pack)

          • Maggie

            You can’t use logic with some people. They enjoy calling anybody who is not their personal favorite, garbage.

        • Token

          Not worth arguing. Like Vick, you will always love Kaep. You just prefer guys that run. Thats ok. I think you will continue to be disappointed.

          • moesus

            If Kaepernick couldn’t run, he wouldn’t have a job. I hope they give him a huge contract and have to let some people go.

          • aub32

            You don’t like the guy because he can run. I like him because he wins and has confidence in his ability. You don’t see me saying that T. Pryor didn’t get his fair shot. Tell me why you don’t like the guy dispite having so much success, much more than the young pocket passing QBs.

        • Philly0312

          Aub…apologize for CK all you want, but he did not have an impressive season. Neither did Wilson. YOU call them bright young stars. I call them overrated. Not based on one game, but on all their games. I see qbs that are no different today than they were 12 months ago. Wilson has shown some progress, but not much, and CK has regressed. If Alex Smith was their QB they go 13-3 and maybe have home field advantage. Hell, Smith only threw for more yards, more tds and fewer INTS this season, with no one to get the ball to outside of Charles. Bright young stars at qb…wtf are you talking about? If Luck is playing for either team they go 14-2. Maybe undefeated. If Brady or Manning has those teams they likely go 16-0. I could name 10 qbs I think would have led either those teams to their current positions in the playoffs. I could care less about comparing them to Foles, as I don’t think it’s a close thing. But these guys are average starters who can make plays with their legs to get themselves out of trouble from time to time. They also are asked to do less than any other qbs in the nfl.

  • EaglefaninAZ

    “…the shuttle drive was bumping Milli Vanilli’s Blame It On the Rain through the speakers. I’m not going to lie. I was singing along in my head.”

    It’s been a long season. Someone needs some time off.

    • GEAGLE

      In all BS on Millie vanilli bumping on the radio :)

  • Will

    Defenses win Championships…not surprised the 49ers lost…I do not find fault with Kap as much as I credit Seattle’s Defense…

    • GEAGLE

      Blank wins championships Is BS!!!

      The most well rounded,Discaplined,United team wins championships..
      ..
      This week will be labaled #1 Defense vs. #1 offense….Seatle won’t win the game because of defense,,They will win because they are stronger at their weakness(offense), then Denver is at their weakness(defense)

      • Will

        Seattle should win because they have a better Defense which is harder to score on..Seattle’s Defense is Awesome front to back…Lynch should be able to run on Denver…whoops is Denver’s Defense gonna get exposed? Defenses win Championships…

        • Will

          This is an age old football argument, do Offensive stacked Teams beat Defensive Stacked teams…so it is fitting the #1 Offense vs. the #1 Defense….I think Baltimore won last year with a pretty good Defense we shall see…which they broke up and didn’t make the playoffs this year…Things that make you say Mmmmm….

      • Andy124

        The team that scores the most points in championship games win championships! I’ve cracked the code!

        • GEAGLE

          You wise old owl…you should write a book. It’s only fair you share your secret..

          Andy, what’s the plan? the plan is to score some friggin points! what’s your plan? Lol

          • Mr. Magee

            Actually one of chip’s best lines in all of 2013

        • Will

          touche…lol..

      • ickymudd

        On the other hand, wisdom, experience and something to prove, maybe one last time should trump youth, exuberance, and opening night jitters. Just IMHO.

        • Will

          No doubt the #1 modern Offense vs. the #1 Defense going to be a hell’va good game….

        • GEAGLE

          I think normally experience, seasoning and continuity matter..but i don’t view any of these teams as lacking of experience…the core of both teams has experienced playoff wins and losses together…experience for me would matter when a team li e Carolina or the eagles are in the playoffs for the first time playing against veteran 49er/saints teams…

          • ickymudd

            My thought was really more about Manning vs. Wilson than these two very experienced teams playing against each other. But your point’s well taken.

  • jabostick

    Sheil, are you adding pop culture commentary to your writing in the offseason? SnarKapadia? I like it.

    If I still had photoshop at work, I’d turn this logo into ‘The Sheil’ and swap out Chiklis. Boom – new weekly feature.

  • pjcostello

    While YOU might find a veggie burger to be tasty, it is most assuredly not ‘manly’… which was the point of the commercial.

  • Mugzy Payton

    Even worse than the pick referenced in the article, in my opinion, is he threw the same exact pass into the same exact coverage on the next drive. It just happened the DB wasn’t prepared for the throw.

    And his TD to Boldin should have been picked.

    Kap is extremely over-rated. If he had a mid-level defense, the 49ers are .500 at best.

    • aub32

      Every QB throws TD passes that are inches away from being picks. Are they all overrated because they can’t all throw TDs to wide open receivers?

      • Mugzy Payton

        There’s a difference between throwing into a tight window and throwing into coverage and being fortunate the DB misplayed it.

        • aub32

          You mean like Foles did in GB or in DET when he just threw to an area and hoped one of his guys would make a play. There are so many examples of so many QBs doing this. Farve made a HOF career out of it.

          • Mugzy Payton

            Yeah, like that. What’s your point? The GB is more of what I’m talking about. That should have been picked.

    • Uncle Wonder

      You cant have it both ways…if the TD to Boldin should have been picked then you could say an interception should have just been an incompletion and the DB just made a great play…All QBs throw into coverage…at some point the WR has to do his job…an area where Boldin excels

      • Mugzy Payton

        I’m not having it both ways.. fine, the TD should have been incomplete and the same for the final interception. The other interception was right in the hands of the DB.

        So now what? Oh yeah he still played like a shit QB

  • Uncle Wonder

    The late game was exciting…good D is fun to watch. Pause

  • Will

    Some people are dead set on a qb that can scramble…not the way to win a Super Bowl but fun for some to watch…but you have to ask yourself what kind of teams win a Super Bowl? A great Defense, a strong run game and a pocket passer get it done pretty simple formula to win….

  • GEAGLE

    What?

    • Andy124

      Huh?

      • GEAGLE

        Nuttin..my MISTAKE…MY ABOVE POST wasn’t showing up

        • Andy124

          Disqus can get real wonky in large threads.

  • JofreyRice

    Of interest to some:

    The Senior Bowl is conducting its weigh-ins this morning. As a precursor to the combine, this is where you can see who’s college’s were fudging the numbers. What stood out to me:

    Stephen Morris, QB – Under 6’2. All the QBs were short, but couple Morris’ lack of height with a very lackluster senior season, and it’s probably going to cost him $$$. That being said, we need a 3rd QB. Morris measured in with huge 10 1/8 in hands, and has a lot of athletic talent. I’d love to see the Eagles draft him in the 4th/5th as a developmental guy. I wouldn’t mind taking a shot on Logan Thomas, either, but not before really late, like the 6th round. At that point, I’m not even sure you’d draft Thomas as a QB.

    Will Clarke, DE, from WVU. Rangy at 6’5, 273. Really stood out during the E-W Shrine game. It will be cool to see how he fares against the best OL in the nation this week. I wonder if he’ll participate in LB drills? He had to play DE in a 3 man front for WVU’s defense, and put up 6 sacks; not bad.

    Jordan Matthews, WR from Vandy was supposedly a rocked up 210, at a legit 6’2 and a half, with 10 and a half inch hands. I feel like he’s a guy that’s been overlooked b/c he’s on a crappy team–similar to Keenan Allen last year.

    Michael Sam was 6’1 and a half. No shock there, but at least he wasn’t 5’11. Couple very big corners in Nebraska’s Stanley Jean Baptiste at 6’2 and a half, and Utah’s Keith McGill at 6’3. Can’t say I studied either this year–I might have seen one Nebraska game. You gotta think those guys are going to be valued, though, based on the loosening of PI penalty calls we’ve seen, and the success of the press man defenses. It looked to me like Belichick thought the best way to beat Manning was with that coverage, all day. Seattle will definitely put that theory to the test.

    I’m guessing Sheil’s going to post something about this.

    • Tom w

      How tall was attaboy from Georgia tech … W you on the qbs … People also saying taj could fall to the 5th. Eagles interviewed two guys at the shrine game btw … The otackle dozier who played guard all week and some dend from USC.

      • JofreyRice

        Tahj was only 6’! I’d take a shot on him in the 6th. Hands were 9 1/2.

        Attachou was 6’3, 252, with 32 7/8 in arms. 81 inch wingspan–pretty nice dimensions for an OLB. For comparison, Trent Murphy had 33 1/8 in arms, but actually a smaller span–and he’s got 2 full inches on Attachou. Murphy weighed in at 252. Guessing he’s going to focus pretty heavily on the OLB drills.

        I saw that Dozier was one of Jeremiah’s “winners” of the game. He didn’t stand out to me, but I’m not a scout. It seems like the best shrine guys go late 2nd-5th. I’d be cool with that area to get a quality guard.

      • cliff henny

        kennard. has the size and is 5th-6th rd olb.

    • cliff henny

      like to see Matthews run times. watched couple of his games, just doest have the popping athletic ability of some of these other top names. but, way more polished. that’s Matthews, nothing great, then end of game look at statline and see 10 catches 150 yds.

      • JofreyRice

        yeah, man, I’ll be checking that, too. But I think Keenan Allen ran like a 4.7, so I’ll be taking it with a grain of salt. Matthews is really smooth, and makes it look easy.

  • peteike

    can Wilson throw an out pattern. Seemed like every time he threw one it was 5 feet over the wr head and out of bounds. Man that was some ugly offense by Seattle. Seems like they dont do much unless its a run play or a timed slant or a scramble bomb. I gotta say also, SF is an easy team to hate. I cant stand Harbaugh screaming about every call. Kap cant do much except scramble also at times but I think he still has huge upside and a nice arm.

  • GEAGLE

    I’m starting to think this offseason will be CRUCIAL for us…Next years NFC is probably more wide open then we would have imagined a year ago when the crown seemed so far away…
    ..
    1) Drew Brees and the saints passing game seem to be declining, and they are about to get into a contract war with their most Important weapon Jimmy Graham.
    ..
    2) KAps Niners lost RJF And Goldson last year. Next year they will be without Whitner and Navarro won’t be ready to play in September. Gore will be another year older and If you shut down their run game and force kAp to win the game with his arm! I don’t believe he will be developed enough to keep from making that boneheaded error that costs his team.

    3) Matt Ryan and the Falcons should be better next year, but Julio will be returning from a bad injury, Whites body who is already breaking down will be a year older and Tony Gonzo will be retired. that team also has glaring issues at Oline and pass rusher

    4)’Seattle, stacked like the Niners are going to start losing players to FA. Micheal Bennett has had a big year for that defense and he is definitely walking in FA. Like Gore, BEASTMODE is a physical back! and at some point it’s going to take a toll on I his body! one morning he will roll out of bed and be drastically older then when he went to sleep the night before. Wilson also is struggling to develop as a passer. he doesn’t have the weapons that KAp has, but once you shut down the Niners and hawks run games, you put the ball into the hands of young QBs who are floating around the 200 passing yards per game average.

    Cowboys,Giants,Skins are a joke…nuff said

    Greenbays defense not only isn’t good enough, but they are getting pretty damn old. Mathews is always hurt, Raji is leaving in FAm Sheilds isn’t under contract, they have safety issues, that defense needs a ton of iWork
    .,,
    Bears, Cliff Henny has labeled them perfectly. Guys like Cutler and romo are just Carmelo Anthony types..flashy, skills, but flawed to where their ceiling is no higher then 8th seed, NFL equivalent would be, sneak into playoffs and immediately get eliminated..

    We are YOUNGER then all these teams both in age, and experience playing in our current schemes. No teams have more of it’s core under contract then us, and we have as much money if not MORE then all our competitors to keep our players, AND ADD to it in FA…these last two years we dafted as well as anyone..Today there are better teams then us in the NFC, but I don’t know that these,better teams have arrows trending upwards as high as us…This conference is more wide open, sooner then we ever imagined..I think it’s a mistake to be passive, and not really try to WIN NOW!!!

    • cliff henny

      think Eagles were the best of the middle pack, 6th best assuming healthy Rodgers. none of the teams behind the Eagles worry me much. dont think Seattle or SF are going to far in next couple of years, but both have alot of good to great players coming due, and nothing F’s up a team faster than money squabbles. i’d be really happy if Eagles showed 10-6 wasnt 1 yr wonder, too many teams do the worst to first bounce back. think the holes are so obvious, they’ll be addressed, but it’ll all come down to how far foles comes along and getting 16 games out of him.

    • ftotheyu

      We need some blue chips on defense and another stud WR to complement DeSean. We need playmakers with swagger on defense — SF and SEA defenses are feared b/c they have nasty playmakers like Willis, Bowman, Sherman, and Thomas. Our entire defense is soft and timid with the exception of Cary WIlliams who talks the talk but can’t walk the walk. Those good Eagles defenses had Dawkins and Trotter who made us fearsome. We don’t have anyone like that on the current roster.

  • Andy124

    I didn’t play good enough to win. I turned the ball over three times. I cost us this game ~Colin Kaepernick.

  • aub32

    Some of you are so sad. You are so into your feelings because you feel like Foles isn’t getting respect that you have to nit pick and tear down two of the leagues young bight QB studs. Most of you just come off jealous that our QB isn’t getting as much hype. Try to understand that there are other narratives that have to do with why Foles isn’t as highly regarded yet.

    First off, Chip Kelly had the offense working with both Vick and Foles. So the narrative is more about Kelly’s offense than about what Foles was able to do, even if that may seem a bit unfair.

    Second, Foles wasn’t the best player on this offense. McCoy might be named OPOY. So that does take away attention from Foles.

    Third, Foles barely won one game last year. He started this season in the hole. Other QBs (Luck, RG3, Kaep, and Wilson) saw immediate success. 3 of them built on that start by winning double digit games this year and at least one playoff game.

    4. Every analyst does not watch every game in great detail. Look at when Foles had the biggest stage. He stunk it up against Dallas in FOX gmae of the week. He destroyed the Bears, but that game was dismissed by some as having zero pressure to win and a horrid Bears D. He then underperformed (that’s not to say he was bad; he just failed to meet expectations) against Dallas and NO.

    5. At some point you have to factor in strength of schedule. Foles beat one team with a winning record and did not beat a single playoff team all season. Meanwhile, the QBs some of you love to bash defeated some of the best teams with the best defenses on their way to a double digit win season.
    ….
    Stop being so hurt that our QB isn’t the talk of the town. Let’s focus on what he needs to improve instead of ripping these other guys who have both taken their teams to the SB. Foles made the pro bowl. He is the unquestioned starter. He got away from that JAG narrative. Be patitent. Some of the salt that some of you are throwing comes off as whiny and pathetic, which we Eagles fans most certainly are not.

    • peteike

      that strength of schedule stuff is such BS, bad teams win all the time, you have to beat whoever is in front of you. Also, its not just the QB, its the team, both sides of the ball that win those games against good and bad competition. I dont disagree though on much else just natural to compare Foles to these 2 QBs in the NFC. Neither looked that great because like you said, they played against great defenses. Everyone understands that, they are just a bit excited that Foles looks like he can compete if they build a better team. Still a long way though from topping Wilson, Kap, Rogers, Cam and Brees and their respective teams. Thats no easy path and im sure a new team will emerge next season.

    • OldDocRoss

      In fairness, I just don’t think Kaep had a good game last night. He turned the ball over, missed a couple of open receivers and generally had a rough night passing. Made a couple of nice plays with his feet and he was up against the best D in the league but mostly he just didn’t play as well as he can. He deserves criticism. For the record, so does Brady who absolutely didn’t have his best game either.

      To just pick a couple of nits though, you could equally make some of your points as to why Foles hasn’t received much praise about the “bright young things” of the league.

      Wilson isn’t the best player on Seattle’s O.

      Alex Smith (!!) had the 49ers putting up points and winning games before Kaep took over.

      Foles only didn’t beat a playoff team if you decide to ignore Green Bay. He also only lost to one. DVOA which *does* account for strength of schedule still had the Eagles offence ranked pretty high.

      I’d argue Foles’ performance against the Saints was at least the equal of anything Kaep or Wilson produced this post-season, so if he underperformed relative to expectations then the same criticism could be made of those guys.

      Mostly I couldn’t give a monkeys about the ‘respect’ Foles get from the masses. Like you say, they don’t watch every game and tend to have their own narrative to adhere to. I *do* get irritated by Eagles fans who refuse to give him anything but the faintest of praise while lauding other, eminently flawed QBs. And I get super irritated by the mobile QB discussion because it’s just so blooming endless and circular and deeply, maddeningly stupid.

      TL;DR – Foles had a phenomenal season. It’s possible to acknowledge this while still thinking he has room for improvement. Equally, it’s possible to say Kaep was a bit guff last night while still acknowledging he’s one of the better young QBs in the league. People who can’t recognise these simple facts are what is annoying.

      • Maggie

        Upvote many times. Tearing down other players, calling them garbage etc., does not build up your own player.

      • anon

        What eagles fan on here doesn’t give foles his due? All these QBs work incredibly hard and try to do their best. It’s not like they’re all Staffords who don’t work and just rely on talent. RW and Kap both have the disadvantage of having every team they face scheme against their weeknesses. Foles will have that pleasure last year.

  • Owner

    Richard Sherman’s brother says Michael Crabtree tried to start a fight with Sherman during a charity event last summer.
    The 49ers threw at Sherman twice on Sunday, once being the memorable play that saw the All-Pro corner break up a potential game-winning pass intended for Crabtree with 22 seconds remaining. After that, things got ugly. Sherman drew a penalty flag for giving the choke sign to Crabtree and called the receiver mediocre in various post-game rants. The antics have become standard for Sherman, but apparently there’s some personal history here dating back to Larry Fitzgerald’s charity event. After that offseason dust-up, Sherman vowed to “make a play and embarrass him.”

    • Owner

      It had nothing to do with Harbaugh… he just hates Crabtree.

    • peteike

      I love it, entertaining anyway, he said he was doing the choke sign to Kapernick I had read.

  • peteike

    DRC winning a superbowl, ugh, not a fan of seeing a quitter when his team is bad win it all but Im sure theres unlikable guys on every superbowl team.

  • Will

    Skittles suit is a Halloween custom…lol…

    • Johnny Domino

      48 hours might be tough, can’t find any in stock.
      Understand they were all bought up by a wedding party in Utah.
      Taste the rainbow!

  • Johnny Domino

    “hipster draft complaint”
    Nice

  • Johnny Domino

    For the Kapadias next Halloween, or other role-playing opportunities:

    http://www.teesforall.com/images/Group_Costume_Skittles_TFA.jpg

  • Mr. Magee

    The “mesh (or rub/pick) play” that Sheil mentions has proliferated amongst NFL teams, and I would not be surprised if we see some rule (or rule enforcement) changes come into play… That play is practically indefensible.

    One thing I’ve noticed is how physical the game is in the playoffs, especially between receivers and D backs. I don’t like the fact that the game is officiated differently in the playoffs, but having said that, what do Chip and the Eagles need to do differently, if anything, to prepare for playoff football in the future? Our current receiver corp is not big or particularly physical, and can be taken out of games due to their inability to get out of breaks. Just sayin’…

    • anon

      think that is an issue at oregon as well, no clue how to fix, we’re a finesse team.

  • morgan c

    Haha, Sheil, you are right! How I Met Your Mother is just a bad show. Not funny. Stupidly overrated. Right on man.

    And re: perception of Foles. Totally agree about Brady getting a free pass, but what about Kaep? If Foles turned the ball over 3 times in the 4th Quarter, he would be absolutely killed.
    Seriously, all this gang of 4 talk and Wilson and Kaep being so “dynamic” – I mean, I just wonder what the perception would be had he been a first round pick.

    • aub32

      Wilson was a 3rd round pick. Kaep was a 2nd round pick who no one knew much about. It has nothing to do with draft position. Each of them have beaten elite competition and taken their teams to the SB. Foles will receive similar praise if he can repeat his 2013 performance and win at least 1 playoff game.