Crystal Ball: Jeremy Maclin

NFL: Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles

The Eagles have eight players that are set to become unrestricted free agents: Jeremy MaclinRiley CooperMichael VickNate AllenDonnie JonesKurt ColemanColt Anderson and Clifton Geathers.

Tim and Sheil will look at one free agent per day and give their take on what should and what will happen with these players. Maclin is up first.


WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN

McManus: The Maclin camp doesn't yet have a feel for what the market will bear. The picture is clouded because of the injury. For them, the focus right now in on the rehab. The key is a full recovery from the torn ACL. If he can get healthy and regain his form, everything else should fall into place.

Given his age (25) and level of production over the first four years of his career, Maclin is sure to draw interest assuming his recovery stays on track. He is running now (lateral movement is the next step) and is hoping to be on the field for OTAs. There's a good chance he will get multi-year offers.

But at what price point?

It's a bit of a risk, but it makes some business sense to sign a one-year contract instead of settling for a longer-term deal at a discount rate. Teams are generally reluctant to open up their coffers for players coming off serious injury. However, if Maclin can prove that he is back to his old self with a strong 2014, he could be in line for a serious pay day.

Maclin should re-sign with the Eagles for one-year, put up some big numbers in Chip Kelly's offense, and take it from there.

Kapadia: The Eagles should explore the possibility of signing Maclin to a multi-year deal if the price is right. In 2012, even with inconsistent QB play and a decimated offensive line, Maclin had 69 catches for 857 yards and seven touchdowns. This year, with the O-Line in tact and the quarterback on fire in a new system, Riley Cooper had 47 catches for 835 yards and eight touchdowns.

Maclin is 25 and only missed four games in his first four seasons. He can win consistently against man coverage, line up in a variety of places (385 of his receiving yards in 2012 came from the slot per PFF) and fits the culture that Kelly is trying to establish.

But there's no need to shell out big money if a strong market emerges for Maclin. Cooper had done very little until he found himself in Kelly's system. Given the money committed to DeSean Jackson and LeSean McCoy, along with Kelly's emphasis on tight ends, there's a strong case to be made that it might not be necessary for the Eagles to invest big dollars in their No. 2 receiver.

If I'm Howie Roseman, I keep in contact with Maclin's camp, see how the market develops and stick to a specific number when determining whether it's worth it to bring him back.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN

McManus: If another team comes in with a lucrative offer, I don't see the Eagles matching. Maclin has torn the ACL in his right knee twice now (he suffered the same injury while at Missouri) and there is simply too much risk involved to commit big money before seeing the receiver in action.

The guess here is that the offers Maclin receives won't blow him away.

“I’m a realist so I understand that’s a possibility,” he said of signing a one-year prove-it deal. “Me and my agent, me and my team will kind of get together and talk about what’s best for me and what’s best for the whole situation and just go from there.”

Maclin has relationships on this team and in this city, and knows that he has the chance to put up good stats in Kelly's system. If he signs a one-year deal, there's no reason why it shouldn't be in Philly.

Kapadia: I'm probably in the minority, but I think Maclin finds a home elsewhere. Teams don't seem to be scared off by ACL injuries as much as they were once upon a time. Potential suitors will want to see where Maclin is physically, but it's not like he had microfracture surgery.

My guess is the market for Maclin will likely be stronger than some anticipate (for many of the reasons I mentioned in my first answer). Even though there's not one thing he does at an elite level, Maclin does a lot of things well. And he will be competing against free agents like Eric Decker and Hakeem Nicks. In other words, there should be significant demand.

I know Maclin likes it here, and I'm sure he is curious about the numbers he could produce playing for Kelly, but in a league where one play can end your career, guaranteed money often wins out. The guess here is that Maclin gets a lucrative offer elsewhere and moves on.

  • R. Colton’s Wine Glass

    Let him go. Another small, soft WR that never should have been drafted in the first place. (Seriously, Reid. You JUST drafted Djax the year before). Disappears in the RZ and doesn’t like to block. I’ll pass.

    • aub32

      He’s basically the same size as Hakeem Nicks. How is he small?

  • jon h

    I have a bad feeling that the Jets will swoop him up.

    • Andy

      I could see that.

      • Will

        let’em being doing us a flavor…

  • Andrew

    Can you clarify why competing against a strong crop of FA WRs means there will be significant demand for Maclin? Wouldn’t it be the other way around, where there’d be demand if it wasn’t a good FA pool?

    • Token

      Its a very weak FA group of WRs.

      • Tom W

        but extremely strong draft wr class … Most teams will hold that against the free agent wrs and keep the numbers down. Someone may give Decker 8 mil a year but I don’t see anyone else getting strong money.

    • JofreyRice

      I took that to mean that those guys aren’t slam dunk #1 WR’s, either. I think Decker’s production inspires skepticism. At the risk of a lazy comparison, it’s a lot like Riley Cooper’s outlook in FA–just larger numbers.

      Nicks had motivation issues along with a series of nagging injuries. Personally, I like him, but I think his best landing spot involves a very strong head coach with a feel for relating to players; maybe like New England (or here!).

      • Andrew

        Gotcha – thanks. I must have mis-read and/or been confused. Decker had some of the best WR numbers over the last 3 years, no?

        Boldin, J. Jones, Sanders, Tate also on the market as solid #2 guys.

        • Will

          I think people wonder if numbers are inflated due to Peyton Manning being the QB for Decker…

          • Andrew

            Maybe, but he still put up 44-612-8 with the Orton/Tebow combo in 2010, his 2nd year in the league, first getting real playing time. Compare that to Maclin’s 69-857-7 last year with Vick/Foles.

        • Maggie

          Golden Tate. He can return kicks too. I see quite a bit of Seattle. He also fights for the ball when necessary.

          • Will

            you think howie breaks into the piggy bank…would be nice…lol..

  • Will

    Move on from Maclin…DJax needs a better partner in crime…

    • Token

      Keep Coop and Maclin. They wont cost a ton. And still get another WR. Thats how they improve.

      • Stuart Philp

        DJax does things Maclin can’t and vice versa. I’d like to see all three in for next year just to see what we have. Maclin in the slot would be a nice addition to the offense we saw this year.

        If anyone needs to be cut to make room, it’s probably time to let Avant go.

        • Token

          yep, absolutely. Like I said Id keep Mac and Coop. Neither are budget busters. Then maybe you look to the draft for your big target for the outside.

      • southy

        I like Maclin but think we need to move on from him. He has talent but is not a good complement to DJax. Let him find a good home somewhere else. Keep Coop, if you can find someone to compete with him next year with WR1 potential long term, get that guy. Probably most important for next year is getting a weapon in the slot over Avant, involving Ertz more, and finally figuring out how to use James Casey.

      • Will

        If you go 1 year prove it deal. I would rather have that deal with Akeem Nicks…

        • Tom W

          Nicks just had his one year prove it contract year and he was a big ole dog … he is even more injury prone than maclin … dude cannot stay healthy and hasn’t been a force in the redzone in over 2 years … basically quit in his contract year …not saying much if anything about his character or drive

          • Will

            well I am not in favor of either one of them…I hoping they get someone who demands double teams like DJax to stress a defense at all 3 receiver’s spots….sick of teams putting double coverage on DJax to take him away and the rest of the WR’s can’t get off man coverage…

          • Tom W

            We can do all 3 … Maclin for 1 year … Cooper for 3-4 and draft a stud rookie wr in rds 1-3 bpa.

          • Will

            Cody Hoffman 6’4″ 210 lbs projected 6th rd. only 4.45 speed but a great Red Zone WR…great hands excellent route runner…

          • Maggie

            And improve the defense…when?

          • Tom W

            Umm 4 picks in the draft and free agency w midlevel guys …. giving maclin 1 year for 4 mil and cooper 4 years for 14 mil does squat to our cap. Even if we take a wr in rd 1 (usc wr, texas am wr, flast wr), we can get a pass rusher in rd 2 (atta boy, sam, jeffcoat,etc), safety in rd 3 (dions), corner in rd 4 (jean baptist, and a big fat nt in free agency or rd 5 of the draft. Bring in good young safety like Clemons for 4 years 20 million as well. not breaking the bank at all.

          • JofreyRice

            Do you really think Clemons is a better player than Jairus Byrd, a 3 time all-pro, or are you just projecting them going after the 3rd best guy because he’s cheaper? The cap is expertly managed so they can strike when a player like Byrd becomes available, isn’t it?

            I know they want to prioritize offense, but I think the dropoff from a first round passrusher to a second round passrusher is greater than a 1st round receiver and a second round receiver. I think a lot of these physical receivers are coming into the league at a great time–I thought the refs were letting more handfighting take place when the ball was in flight this year. Would love for the Eagles to bring in a prospective star like Robison or Evans, but I think we need an impact edge rusher.

          • Tom w

            Don’t think Howie is gonna drop 9 million a year for Byrd or 8 mil a year for ward … He basically said we aren’t one guy away and he said he doesn’t wanna be the 2011 eagles. I would prefer Byrd or ward but I think w a weak free agent class and bad teams w 60 mil to spend Byrd and ward are gonna get big money like sf safety last yr from Tampa. So yes I’m looking at Clemons as a young good safety for clover quin money.

            Right now, I don’t see a edge pass rusher being bpa at 22 … Mack and Barr will be gone …. The bpa at 22 looks like a wr, maybe Cyrus or that monster hageman. I think attaboy could climb into first but right now he is graded much lower. Same w van noy and Sam. Beasley may stay and I wasn’t impressed w him just yet. And I said what chip will do — bpa — and not look at depth of a position like wr this year based on the birds ignoring the depth at otackle and tight end last year. If I had my choice … I wanna move up of barr or Mack falls to 11. If not I’m going bpa like chip or trade back to early second and get another third. Edge rusher, safety, wr, corner, qb, og, corner is the way I would go but what do I know. Howie seems to be truthful about bpa. Howie also seems to have already said do not expect a big time signing … Teams can’t sustain success that way and the money goes quick … Byrd and ward gonna get priced out by the market … Clemons and Whitner won’t

          • JofreyRice

            My take on that is that past failures don’t always indicate future results. I really hope Howie feels the same. I don’t know exactly what went wrong with Asomugha, but he never regained his form–so it wasn’t that he didn’t fit here, he didn’t fit on an NFL roster.

            Babin wasn’t a bad signing, for the scheme they ran–posted what, 19 sacks?–but the rest of the D couldn’t support the scheme, and teams were able to max protect and take advantage of the Wide 9′s weaknesses. Cullen Jenkins was good while he lasted.

            I think the main lesson of that class was about team chemistry. Adding one big name piece doesn’t have the same effect as adding 4 or 5 new starters in FA.

            As far as the money thing, while I have questioned the FO’s fitness in player evaluation, I don’t think even their harshest critic could mount a serious attack against the way they run the cap. Cap control and creativity has been the hallmark of this team since Lurie bought it–through it all. They are just simply never going to be in a compromised position. That being said, I don’t think managing the cap to make sure you’re a certain percentage under is putting it to the best use. I don’t want them buying up every free agent they can find, but certainly to be able to strike on a mid-career player of Byrd’s caliber–and the Eagle’s need–is a unique opportunity that should be seized.

          • Maggie

            The draft or FA for that matter, do not work that way. There are more than 30 other teams out there, many of them eyeing the same players. Nobody can just arbitrarily say draft X player in this round or that round without interference.

          • Will

            Cooper for 3-4 mllion a year is what I think he was trying to say…lol..

        • Token

          I dunno. I see why some like Nicks. Id rather keep Maclin. I think he could be good in this offense. Operate out of the slot. Doesnt have to line up outside all the time. Isnt Nicks just as injury prone and a bit of a headcase?

          Id rather find someone else for the future outside WR. Good draft for WRs.

          • moesus

            Nicks had the same amount of TD’s this year as Maclin. No thanks. Crazy because I wanted us to draft him too.

      • theycallmerob

        The issue with that, as Sheil stated, is Kelly doesn’t seem prone to spreading out 4 guys too often. Even early in the year, the 3 wide sets were more an indictment of Ertz’s slow development.
        I’d keep Djax, one of the two (for fit and price, I’d take Coop), and draft another WR early and one guy late. Ertz and either Casey/Celek will see the field often- it offers more difficult matchups for the D and more scenarios for Chip to exploit.

        Plus, keeping both and signing a kid will, IMO, pour too much $ in that position.

        • Tom W

          Yea I thought that too but it may be because our wrs 3-5 sucked and especially our wrs 4-5. If we had djax coop maclin and benjamin .. .that sure looks a whole lot better than djax coop avant and maehl. History tells us Chip would adapt his scheme to his personnel and fashion 4 wr sets as well as 4 wide w 3 wrs and 1 te or 2 and 2. Chip also used the spread alot at Oregon so I’m not concerned he doesn’t like 4 wrs .. just need to have two big wrs to block in those formations … Cooper and tall rookie get us there.

          • theycallmerob

            the spread works better in college because OU was all about speed, speed, speed. He would run down, then run over, his competition.

            Here it’s more matchup-oriented. Trust me, I’d love to have 3 or 4 great WRs. Just don’t think it’s necessary.

            Look at NO, with one great TE (who we all hope Ertz will become one day). They have Colston, Moore, Meachem, Stills….but aside from Colston, none of them regularly put up big #s. And that’s in a pass heavy attack.

            Say Chip keeps DJax, Coop, Rookie 1, Avant, Brad Smith, Rookie 2, Ertz, Celek. In a run first offense, where are all those completions going? Everyone will have a role to play, but no one outside Djax/Ertz/McCoy will be putting up #s conducive to a big contract, those typically signed by a WR2.

          • Maggie

            True. There are probably not enough passes to go around, and every receiver wants the ball, a la Bryant or even (gag) Owens.

          • Tom W

            well just this year djax put up career numbers at wr1 and Cooper w foles for the year was on pace for like 1500 yds … so right there is a wr2 making big time numbers equaling a big contract.

            Not saying Chip needs Maclin to make this thing hum … I’m saying Chip’s lack of use of 4 wrs this year is not a reason we wouldn’t sign Maclin (and bring back Coop and draft a rookie in rds 1-3). Maclin is only getting a one year deal from us. Following yr in 2015 your wrs are Djax Coop and stud rookie and maclin has left to get his long term deal elsewhere.

            Cooper deal’s will be cheap 3-4 mil, maclin is only one year probaly 4 mil, the rookie second rd wr makes 500k and djax will get restructured to lets say you said 6 mil a year. in 2014 thats 15 mil in wrs … thats less than megatron and fitz make. in 2015 thats 11 million for top 3 and some rookie for another half million. Very doable and not too much on wrs by any stretch IMO.

          • Will

            Cooper will get better offers than Mac…it’s a what have you done lately league…

          • Tom W

            Different offers. one year vs long term deal. And no one said otherwise.. So whats your point?

          • theycallmerob

            my only issue with what you’re saying is $. it will cost to keep both Mac and Coop. I think it’s very idealistic to assume we’ll not only keep both, but both on team-friendly deals. If it plays out like you’re saying, great; I just don’t think it will. just my take.

          • Tom W

            Cool. glad we agree. Im hoping the strong rookie wr class really steers team away from Coop and the fact that there is about 10 wrs better than him in free agency. If people think Decker was made by manning, they surely will see Cooper was made by Foles/Chip.

            Maclin I am not as worried bc his agent sees big numbers in his future after one year in this offense. You know they sat and watched our games and saw coop and djax killing it and just thinking he could catch 60 for 1000 and 8 tds.

            I think Coop knows he is better in this system and the lockerroom somewhere else could get ugly. I think the market will be what the eagles want it to be. Howie won’t overpay for Coop.

            I think Maclin knows his best chance at big money is one year in chip’s offense. I laid out my reasoning that Maclin could be costing himself 15 million dollars over 5 yrs if he take a cheaper long term deal (which I dont think he gets anyway). Howie won’t be giving maclin a longterm deal.

            I only want both back on team-friendly terms. If not, let them walk. I believe we get both back on team friendly terms (or proper market value based on comparative contracts). Maclin’s will be for 1 year. Cooper’s long term.

          • Will

            521 yds last 8 games on pace for 1100 still not shabby stats…

          • Tom W

            What are you talking about? I said djaz and coop put up great numbers in this offense … I don’t understand where the “not too shabby” comment is coming from … no one said coop and djax put up bad numbers.

          • Will

            Someone said Cooper was on pace for 1600 yds. seemed a little high so went to the stats last 8 games did the math worked out to 521 yds last 8 games for Cooper not 812 as stated above…

      • Tom W

        Keep both yes but only Maclin on one yr deal.

  • Stuart Philp

    nfl.com had an interesting note on Cooper a few days ago:

    “After catching just eight passes for 93 yards and one touchdown from Michael Vick in the first five games of the season, Cooper racked up 45 receptions for 812 yards and eight touchdowns in the final eight games.”

    That’s 1624 yards in a full season… Cooper fits the system, works well with Foles, as is big and physical redzone target. We need to sign him on a team friendly deal ASAP.

    • borntosuffer

      Don’t forget, he is a big special team’s contributor as well. Can’t see Cooper leaving unless someone offers him huge money.

    • Will

      Cooper was 27 of 47 targets for 521 yards and 6 TD’s last 8 games…1st 8 games Cooper was 20 of 36 targets for 314 yds. and 2 TD’s….

  • Will

    The Eagles got to get serious if they want to improve. The status qua of previous years ain’t cutting it… let Maclin go …keep Cooper and add another stud not dud…

    • Tom W

      Status quo? its a new regime. Any reference to reid and banner regime isn’t indicative of the present regime. If Maclin wants to give us a present for one year — I’m taking it. And I’m drafting a stud wr too. Macling plays well, helps us, and leaves for the cash next year. The stud wr learns and grows and plays like ertz did this year and starts the following yer. relax howie and chip understand what they are doing.

      • Will

        Agree with Draft a stud….Maclin is a dud let’em walk…never played up to the 19th overall first Rd. pick…another Reid ho hum average guy at best not a #1 WR period…3rd knee surgery will agree to disagree on Maclin…no guarantee he comes back to form from an ACl tear mind you…

        • Tom W

          Actually has put up way better career numbers than djax before this year … has the pedigree … first round pick … redzone threat … runs great routes … can play outside or inside.

          I agree he is better in west coast offense but absolutely not a bust. look at his career numbers.

          Most importantly — think how much better he could be in Chip’s offense in the slot or outside. Djax and Cooper had career years in this offense, not Andy’s. No reason to think Maclin wouldn’t blow up as well.

          Out of sight out of mind … and its only a one year deal. I can be patient and get my parade in the next 4 years like most new coaches do.

          • aub32

            I wouldn’t say he’s put up way better numbers than DJax. Maclin has still never had a single 1000 yard season. He was better at scoring TDs, but a big part of his production was because DJax was and still is the guy defenses have to gameplan against.

          • spizzy

            Tom….Jackson 3 1000 plus yard seasons. Maclin has none. What are you talking about.

          • RIP illa

            Lmao…1st statement Fallacy you twit…as you like to call others!!!

  • Michael Miz Neal

    Am I crazy to think its worth it to trade for Stephen Hill for a late pick if course? He did alot of blocking in college and is big n fast… plus the Jets arent thrilled with him but I think its because yhe scheme isnt a good fit… what do you guys think?

    • JofreyRice

      I liked Hll (probably more than I should have) coming out. He was always going to be a project to develop, coming from a triple option offense, but the instability of the staff/scheme/QB have pretty much guaranteed he’ll look like a bust.

      Yeah, I’d trade for him, provided it was a later round pick. His hands and route running are worrisome though. I don’t think much has been added to his skill set since he left Ga. Tech.

    • Mikeq

      I’m still hoping to get some value for B. Graham, and it would be nice to trade him for a guy like Hill- disappointing first rd-er ” change of scenery needed” guy for another. Unfortunately, Graham would be as out of position for Jets as he is here. If the Birds could fill a position need in trade for Graham- even if he’s only a so-so player with some promise- it could mean more flexibility in the draft and free agency. Graham doesn’t have much value for this team, and probably hard to convince anyone to trade a pick for him either.

    • RIP illa

      Yes you are. The guy has horrible hands, or at least has proven to have them thus far.

  • Will

    Draft someone like Cody Hoffman at 6’4″ 210 lbs…with 4.45 speed….immediate red zone threat…should go in the later rounds of the draft…

  • Average__Joseph

    The media seems to love Maclin. As I recall, he was a good, not great, receiver that played very, very soft; he would go down or go out of bounds to avoid contact. This is somewhat understandable for Jackson but Maclin is a bigger receiver. Maclin was also a poor blocker and this was when he was playing in Reid’s offense. Imagine how bad his blocking would look in Kelly’s offense. Bottom line is even if the Eagles wanted to sign him I believe Andy Reid will sign him and my feeling is Maclin would rather play for Reid than Kelly.

    Just An Average Joseph

    • Mikeq

      I hadn’t thought about the Reid factor. Close to his college home for Maclin (not sure where he grew up though), and the word was the Chiefs very much in the market for upgrades at WR to go with Bowe. I was thinking to watch out for Grigson in Indy. I’d guess those are the two teams to watch as far as someone swooping in with a much better than a one year “prove it” deal, based on their previous work with Maclin. Maybe Cleveland too if Banner is still obsessed with screwing with Lurie and Howie? Ha!

      • Mikeq

        Hate replying to myself, but is anyone else enjoying the way Banner has completely botched the head coach situation in Cleveland?

      • Will

        and the Jets connection with Martyball….

      • Will

        Banner still a mess love how the old coach is spilling the beans to prospective interview coaches…LMAO…

    • Maggie

      I believe the article stated that Maclin likes it HERE. About your avatar. It is the “average” real Christian who prays for Israel, not the “average” American. Just sayin’.

      • theycallmerob

        your beliefs are separate from his avatar. just sayin’

        • Maggie

          I did not say anything about my beliefs, except that Average Joseph is draping the flag where it doesn’t belong.

          • Average__Joseph

            Thank you Maggie, I guess next time I should check with you where I am allowed to “drape” the flag. I really appreciate your input; I don’t know how I made it in so far in life without people like you expressing your knowledge and insights to us average folks. Thank you so much again for your wisdom. I am surprised everyone here is not lauding you.

            Just An Average Joseph

  • Dilwala_G

    To me, the best deal for Maclin and for the Eagles is a multi-year deal where the base salary is minimal (reflecting a player who may have lost a step and some versatility due to ACL injuries) and the upside player performance based incentives are significant (so that if Maclin turns into a monster in Kelly’s system, he is compensated accordingly) – that way the Eagles are protected if he doesn’t return and play well, and Maclin is fairly compensated (at market, not above) if he turns into a beast.

  • Clamdigger

    I just don’t see Maclin’s agent advising him to take a gig elsewhere. After Cooper’s season, what better place is there for Maclin to establish his value? Unless Denver or NE float him a decent offer…

    • Tom w

      Very smart observation and the reason Maclin comes back to us for 1 yr unless some dopey gm gives him greg jennings money.

  • Will

    The Eagles and Chip Kelly have a chance to upgrade another ho hum just Average player on this roster…be very surprised if Chip Kelly doesn’t go and get his guy for the WR’s spots…someone tall, fast, great hands, who is an excellent blocker…that’s not Maclin in any shape or form….

    • Tom W

      They will get a stud wr in the draft and bring Maclin back for one year deal — makes too much sense not too

      • Will

        Will see WR group on the whole after DJax and Cooper needs an overall…

  • Mugzy Payton

    I still don’t buy Cooper even though he had a nice year. I think somebody will give him an offer that I wouldn’t want to match.

    • Will

      Cooper’s stats last 8 games off the charts…If Nick Foles played all 16 games Cooper would of went over 1600 yards….Cooper needs to be resigned ASAP…

      • Tom W

        Its kelly and the offense. Same thing happened to Djax numbers .. career year. Same thing would’ve happened to Maclin. Can’t look at Maclin in reid offense eyes and cooper and djax in kelly offense eyes. Need to think of them all before and all after …

        • Will

          Okay granted but the fact Maclin is short at 6′ and not a Red Zone threat. Further he doesn’t like to block and you have to wonder would he fit Chip’s mold of WR?

          • Tom W

            I’m worried he cant block either do we really think djax can block anyone??? Also maclin had 10 tds one year and doesn’t disappear in redzone because he runs good routes like a marvin harrison did

          • Will

            Before the knee injury Mac ran a 4.45 40…Cody Hoffman is 6’4″ 210 lbs with 4.45 speed….great route runner, great hands, red zone threat and cheap with good knees…rounds 4-6 in upcoming draft….BYU product #17th WR over all would rather take a chance with him than pay thru the nose for Maclin…

          • Tom w

            We shall see at the combine what Cody runs .. and if he is 6 4 210 .. he is tad skinny and needs to bulk up a bit.

            I could see a guy like that in rd 4 (maybe rd 3 if he runs well) .. but I think we address wr earlier and go for someone w more upside

            And no reason we cant have coop, djax, maclin, and rookie wr for 2014 and move on from maclin in 2015.

          • Will

            WR is deep in this class…was looking only at the taller WR’s…will be interesting who they target in the draft with Chip being offensive minded and the Defense in greater need…

          • Tom W

            Martavius Bryant is a guy you should look at in rd 3. freak. yes i have been saying its 12 deep or so … doesn’t mean Chip doesn’t take a wr in round 1 if he truly believes he is the best player. Last year, there was 4-5 tes very close to ertz’s grade (escobar, kelce, vance, and someone else), and we still took ertz even though we had other needs.

            What I am saying is I don’t think eagles look at the depth of a position in a draft to dictate who they will draft. i wish they did, but they don’t. They took Lane in rd 1 when Armstead, Watson, and Bakhiteri could be had later, and took Ertz when there was a bunch of equal tes. I think it worked out for us anyway. So I am going to assume eagles just take bpa this year irregardless of depth at a position. If they were concerned about depth, they wouldve grabbed someone like jamie collins last year in rd 2 instead of ertz or a corner/safety in rd 3 instead of logan. But Howie is sticking to the board and bpa. I’m completely find w that bc we can’t lose that way.

          • Will

            Martavius is very light at 190…

          • Will

            DJax is hopefully the one were are blocking for on that bubble screen…Donte Moncrief 6’2″ or 6’3″ 226lbs…with 4.40 speed another WR the Eagles should have a long look at…

          • Tom W

            yea we gotta see what these kids run at the combine and what their height really is … teams lie all the time …. also gotta look at size of hands and leaping ability. lack of speed helps guys drop

          • NickS1

            D-Jax got some red zone TDs with Foles at the helm and also put in the effort to blocking. He may not be great at blocking but it’s not like a lot of WRs who don’t even put in the effort.

          • RIP illa

            Let line just described Mac to a tee.

          • RIP illa

            Djax better blocker than Maclin. Game tape fact…at least in 2012. And his blocking only improved this year. Yeah Mac put up 10 TDs one season. And excluding this year, just for the sale of argument cuz Mac was hurt…Djax put up 9 one season!!! That argument doesn’t hold water. Even going off of the years Mac has been in the league and holding Djax to the same timeframe. The TD margin for Mac v Djax is only 26-20 or something like that. You guys try to make it sound like its some drastic gap between the two, when its not!!!

      • Maggie

        If Nick Foles played all 16 games Cooper might have gone over 1600 yards

        • Will

          Cooper caught 521 yards last 8 games which put him on pace for 1100 yards….

  • cliff henny

    draft an evans landry beckham benjamin or robinson-list goes on, sign cooper for 3 or 4 yrs around 3.5m per, extend jax 3 yrs, Ertz’ role will expand-he’s under control for 3 more yrs, i dont hate brad smith as 4th option with full off season and plenty of 5th-7th round talented wrs. have WRs taken care of for 3-4 years, just have to tinker. wonder if kelly a, even likes Mac (that self-tacklin garbage must have made him sick) and b, is even interested in a prove it contracts. Signing Mac means he is taking touches from ertz and landry or he puts up numbers at their expense, and eagles are back in same boat messing around with paying him and jax big money the following year. remember, ’15 a whole bunch of young guys will come due.

  • Cyrus Robinson

    I don’t understand all the anti-Maclin sentiments. Maclin was our number 1 receiver, not DJax. Everyone is saying how average he was when he would consistently outperform Desean. Some brought up Maclin’s lack or blocking and softness. Desean was not a great blocker or particularly tough, but coaching made him improve. I think Maclin could easily live up to his first round status in this system.

    I could see Foles throwing for 5k next season with DJax, Maclin, Coop, Ertz, Celek and Shady running routes. That sounds pretty filthy. I just hope they can all stay healthy. We all thought Maclin going down was a huge loss at the beginning of the season. I would love to see him in this offense.

    • Will

      u assume Maclin’s knee holds up…DJax has to put up with double teams which makes it easier for Mac when he was healthy to post better numbers..
      ….

    • RIP illa

      Ahh…what it must be like to have a biased and skewed version of history!!! Jk. Actually no…your claims are pretty much incorrect. Even in Djax “pouty” contract year, he still put up more yards w/ a comparable number of receptions and only had one less Td than Maclin!!! Even during Mac’s “mini-breakout” year in 2010, Djax still had more yards on almost 30 less receptions. Maclin did best him in TDs w/ 10-6. And Mac outperformed him in 2012, but only cuz Djax hot hurt.

      And if you wanna claim that Mac gets more TDs, then you can cuz it’s true. But the margin is not as wide as people think…26-20 over the same equal amount if time. Mac only produced 10 once…Djax only produced 9 once, while leaving out his season cuz Mac was hurt. If we add this season then it’s Djax put up 9 twice. And then you have to factor in the Reid redzone factor and the way he used Djax. Also, you even have to factor in the overall attention that Djax draws game in and game out throughout the entirety if his career.

      Bottom line is, that while some hoped and wanted Mac to be our “#1 WR”…it has always been Djax!!! Just look up the stats man. More attention from D’s, more yardage, more big plays…etc!!!

    • RIP illa

      And it wasn’t really the coaches that made Djax improve on the blocking. They certainly did help, so I don’t want to negate them. However, in 2012, after Djax got paid, there were several games where he just flat out out in the work and want to block downfield in the run game, while Mac was lazy w/ effort and sloppy w/ technique. Either letting his man go completely or drawing holding penalties!!!

  • phillyeagle77

    Arrelious Benns?

    • cliff henny

      not only 2 bad knees, but 2 bad hands too

  • EaglefaninAZ

    I didn’t know Maclin also tore the same ACL in college. That’s three times. I like him for a one year “prove it” contract, and then see what we can get for him. I’m a little familiar, having had 6 knee surgeries and a new right knee in store for this year.

  • Phillyfan36

    Saying Maclin is not good is stupid:
    Maclin’s first 4 years- 3,442 yds, 26 touchdowns
    Jackson’s first 4- 4,096 yds, 21 touchdowns
    He is not far off from Desean in his first 4 years and it would be terrible if the Eagles let him walk, especially since he would thrive in this system and he would open up things for Shady, Cooper (if signed), Ertz, and Celek and make it much easier on Foles.

  • Token

    So many assuming that if Maclin is resigned its to be the #1. Why is that?

    He was excited about the offense. he bought in. I believe he would have and will be playing a lot out of the slot. Jackson, Maclin, Cooper with a true #1 yet to come. Now that is weapons.

    Maclin and Nicks are probably the same injury risk. But Maclin is a more even personality. Nicks is kind of a headcase. And Maclin already has been exposed to the offense. And I think he will fit in it well.

    He says hes up for a 1 year deal. I dont think its much of a thought for what he will cost. Doesnt stop them from drafting an outside guy. Just adds another weapon to the offense. We want to add weapons.

    Im not sure that Ertz will takeover a major role. Ertz will be a good solid TE. But hes not in the mold of a Graham. I dont think he creates the matchup problems like that. I dont know that his athleticism is enough for his ceiling to be as high as some project. But he can be a 600-700 yard guy. And that would be excellent.

    Basically, they should be looking for a legit big outside WR in the draft regardless of what happens. But id also keep Mac and Coop.

    • Tom w

      With you a 100 percent.

  • Kev_H

    I think the Eagles will and should offer Maclin a nice 3 or 4 year deal and come out at the end of it looking like it was a bargain. I wouldn’t be concerned by the injuries at all assuming he is fully recovered. Eagles’ great Wilbert Montgomery fell to the Birds in the 6th round because he suffered serious knee injuries his last two years in college, but he turned around and put together one of the best 4-5 year runs as a RB that Eagles fans have ever seen and that was late 1970s early 1980s.

    Maclin would go for it since it would give him security but also allow him to renew or test free agency in his late 20s if all goes well for him. Though if I were the Eagles I’d be proactive about it and not let him start looking elsewhere.