Bennett Takes Jab At Eagles; Foles To Pro Bowl

NFL: Philadelphia Eagles at Dallas Cowboys

When Seahawks defensive lineman Michael Bennett was watching film of the Saints’ first-round playoff game against the Eagles, he came away unimpressed with the effort of the Birds against the run.

The Eagles allowed the Saints to pile up 185 yards on the ground on 36 carries (5.1 YPC). New Orleans wasn’t as successful running the ball against the Seahawks, but the Saints were still productive (26/108/4.2).


Bennett had a big game with six tackles, half-a-sack, a tackle-for-loss and a forced fumble.

The Eagles host the Seahawks at the Linc next season. On the off chance that I forget that week to ask the players about Bennett's comment, please give me a reminder.

FOLES A PRO BOWLER

The Eagles have a Pro Bowl quarterback.

While we can all concede that the whole process is silly, Nick Foles earned a spot on the roster last night with the Patriots' win. Foles was originally named a first alternate, but it's now guaranteed that one of the players who made it ahead of him - Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Philip Rivers - will be playing in the Super Bowl. That means Foles earns the nod.

Meanwhile, Jason Peters has opted out of the Pro Bowl. He will be replaced by Texans offensive tackle Duane Brown.

LeSean McCoy was the other Eagle originally named. DeSean Jackson and Evan Mathis are second alternates.

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  • G_WallyHunter

    I was actually kinda rootin for seattle, not anymore.
    Bennett? Was he a FA signing? Will he even be around next year? Guy needs to keep his mouth SHUT.

    • ftotheyu

      The way I look at it, Bennett isn’t wrong in his assessment. The best way to shut other people up is to take care of your own business. And we didn’t. End of story.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Ya after I posted I kind of realized that lol, maybe I’m just more pissed they aren’t playing today. Bennett should shut up tho, why chirp the eagles, he’s just giving them extra fire for that game next year for which he may not even be on the team. (unless he signed a multi-year, but if I remember it was a 1 year, in which case he might be brought back?)

        • ftotheyu

          Yeah he signed a one year deal. Not sure if he just likes to run his mouth, but he also called Jimmy Graham overrated.

          • Media Mike

            He’s correct about Jimmy Graham. Total finesse player.

          • GEAGLE

            Just don’t get how such a great veteran could be such a pathetic blocker…been jn the league for years and he still couldn’t block drunken Cliff Henny.

        • Maggie

          It’s tough competition for media attention in Seattle. He just said something inflammatory to get noticed.

    • GEAGLE

      Yeah he is a FA

      • theycallmerob

        Sign him, then IR him all year for a torn labia.

        • Media Mike

          Jimmy Graham?

  • T B

    You may not like him but I was thinking the same thing about our run D last week. Tackling WAS awful.

    • GEAGLE

      To a man, they were bad….Bradley Fletcher! who I adore had a horrible game blowing tackles all over the place..our ILBs were on the ground too much, our front didn’t keep them clean…
      ..
      I would like to think we woulda done a little better with Logan on the field and Boykin on the Bench….you can’t stop the run with your Nickle defense unless you have safeties who will come up to the LOS and deliver the BOOM

      • Media Mike

        How would we do with Nix at nose?

        • GEAGLE

          Certainly can’t hurt..but he wouldn’t have done squat against the saints, because he wouldn’t have been in on our Nickle packages that got the ball ran down their throat

      • BrickSquadMonopoly

        Blaming the defense for the loss is a reach. Offense was less than mediocre and special teams was what is was all year, abysmal.

        • GEAGLE

          Blaming ANYONE is a reach,,,that was as much as a TEAM loss as you will find

        • Richard Colton

          I’d also like to blame New Orleans. They were better that day.

  • Media Mike

    Bennett wasn’t lying. The tackling by the Eagles vs. a statistically garbage running game ( 25th in yards, 26th in yards per attempt) was inexcusable and likely to be improved via another offseason of adding some much needed talent on D. Bennett’s comments hurt, but they were truthful.

    • GEAGLE

      All true, however it’s kind of skewed by their heavy TE blocking packages should probably pound the ball against Nickle defense…

      Maybe you can get away with playing your Nickle against power run formations if you are playing with two extra quasi LBs in Earl and cHancellor
      ..
      But our Nickle defense is NOT how we shut down opponents rushing attacks ALL YEAR long!..if we are taking Benny off the field to play Boykin, the run defense isn’t going to be as stout….that was the gamble Billy had to make, and who we knows, if the offense puts up 30 like they were supposed to, instead of shady getting shut down…Billy’s gamble could have brilliantly payed off

    • Michael Winter Cho

      I think it was worse a couple years ago when Frank Gore said the Eagles quit and “didn’t want to play no more.”

      • Media Mike

        Was that the Ronnie Brown game?

  • Media Mike

    I’d like to also wish a very un-fond farewell to D-bag Dan Dierdorf. May he die screaming for his biased and disgraceful rantings in the broadcast booth. In particular I hope he feels pain and misery in the final years of his life for his unfounded trashing of Andre Watters along with his ignorant and mathematically incorrect assertion at the end of the 91 season that the Skins D was better than the Eagles D. That would be the same 91 Eagles D that holds the NFL record for fewest yards allowed in a 16 game season. F Dierdorf, he should be punished for Crimes Against Philadelphia.

    • Griffins22

      I think you went just a bit too far.

      • GEAGLE

        It’s the internet…no such thing lol JK

      • Media Mike

        No, not really. If you were watching those MNF games with Dierdorf trashing our team and players, you’d understand.

        • DirtyWaters

          I believe what he said was he was a cheap shot artist who had the intention of hurting opposing players. I remember when he said it and I couldn’t figure out why everyone was so upset. He was a cheap shot artist and he was trying to injure the opposition. Dan was just a drunk speaking his mind. He just happened to be on national TV.

          • Media Mike

            Watters was a dealer of justice to the guilty on other teams, a massive hitter, and a fine example of a game changing safety. Only guys on other teams are dirty players!

          • DirtyWaters

            Jahahajaha. Ya. I hate Richard Sherman. But I would love him as an Eagle.

          • Media Mike

            I have a vision of Sherman making a great pass breakup on Crabtree on the Niners sideline to end a game vs. the Niners, Harbaugh coming on the field to complain, and Sherman bitch slapping Harbaugh right in his crybaby mouth.

          • Maggie

            Since I live not far from Seattle, I can say that Sherman would not “bitch slap” Harbaugh. Much more aggravating, Sherm would laugh in his face. Sherman almost always is quite funny with his endless talking. Sometimes even makes his opponents laugh while he’s trashing them. Humor works to distract them just as much as meanness.

        • GiveMeABreak

          MM, I agree. He is putrid and seems to have forgotten that he and Dobler were two of the dirtiest players in the league when they played. His sanctimonious bile is intolerable. If only HG had recommended Fisher over Kotite, that 1991 team might have won it. Would be nice to have dominating players on defense again. No offense to our D this year, but neither DL, LBs or secondary has anyone that can compare to JB, RW, WH, BD, B&E, JR or other great Birds d-players. Would have been nice if we picked JJ from UGA with #4 pick instead of LJ. A dominating LB could have come in handy.

    • DirtyWaters

      How dare anyone call the late great Andre Waters dirty!

      • Media Mike

        Truth! You were a messenger of death to the unworthy playing for the other 27 teams in the NFL.

  • GEAGLE

    What was the jab? What did he say other then he was unimpressed?

    We got the ball pounded down our throat, why would anyone be impressed?
    ..
    Does this mean we should cross Bennett off our FA wish list?
    ..
    Must be nice to play against the run having two extra linebackers, Earl and Cam

    • G_WallyHunter

      Just wait until Earl is hoisting the Lombardi, it will be very, very, extra painful.

  • GEAGLE

    Good for FOles….he deserved it!

  • Joe Thomas

    I don’t like the fact that Bennett took a shot at our guys toughness and heart, so I’ll be sure to bring it up, if he is still in Seattle.
    Congratulations to Nick Foles on another accomplishment. Really looking forward to seeing how he improves and what he can do next season.

  • cliff henny

    between Seattle and their fans, not many quotes/comments coming out of the great northwest that dont bother me. cant even imagine what it’ll be like if Seahawks win SB. what was probably the most annoying thing about yesterday’s game is ingram reverted to his mean. dropped a screne and a fumble on a mediocre hit. does that in Philly, great chance we’re all doing kegs and eggs this morning getting ready for Carolina.

    • Media Mike

      NOTHING is more annoying than a New York Giants (or Yankees) fan running their mouth.

      • dave H

        any st Louis cardinal parent taking his kids to see mark McGuire play …

      • Jasper

        Have you ever lived in Pittsburgh? Extremely rare to find a knowledgeable Steeler fan… Every debate/discussion would end — Yeah but who’s won more Super Bowls?

        • Andy124

          One word:

          Dallas

          • Jasper

            I have friends who are Dallas, NY fans — I can talk football with Dallas and NY fan, my ears bleed with Pittsburgh fan.

        • Media Mike

          I’ve run into a few of them (with my fists as well) at Penn State over the years. They’re brutal, but New Yorkers are the worst.

        • Maggie

          But aren’t they right? That’s what’s most annoying.

      • anon

        Redskins are pretty terrible, especially the way they hold on to that SB they won 20 years ago.

    • NickS1

      Scotch and eggs. Minor details.

    • Maggie

      You must realize that Seattle does not have any other professional major sports teams, not even the Mariners, lol. So all of the energy they have left over after endless days doing outdoor activities, gets concentrated on the Seahawks. Also probably a quarter of their season ticket holders are from the Vancouver area. They have a 2-hour drive to get to the games, plus paying the exchange rate on their dollars. By golly, they are going to get their money’s worth!! ; D

  • Explorer51

    So on “Colts 24/7″ (if there is such a site), do you think there’s a lot of “dump Luck, he lost a playoff game with 4 picks!!!!!” chatter? With every throw dissected to see if he missed an open receiver? Or in Seattle, do you thinks there’s lots of folks wringing their hands about Russell Wilson’s last five games (3-2, avg 157 yds passing, with 4 TDs and 3 INTs)?

    Probably not. But in Philadelphia, we’re back to wondering what Chip Kelly could do with somebody like Manziel, if Foles really is the guy…

    I hope Roseman and company are already planning on how to build around Foles by getting a Seattle like defense in place in the next couple of years.

    • NickS1

      ^ This. Wish I could up vote this 10 more times.

      • Andy124

        ^ This^2.

      • Explorer51

        Thx, I needed a sanity fix.

    • GEAGLE

      Your post should be published on the front page of tomorrow’s daily news. Can’t up vote you enough

    • Beastmode

      Yeah but Foles isn’t mobile. Duh.
      /sarc

    • BirdGang

      The reason is because those guys are franchise QBs. I am not saying Foles isn’t our franchise QB but we aren’t quite sure.

      • theycallmerob

        says who? they’ve been in the league as long as Foles, albeit they started from day 1. So after their 1st year, each was universally recognized as the franchise?

        What you said is the exact double standard we’re referring to

        • BirdGang

          Says the fact that he wasn’t our starting QB from day one. Luck was drafted to start right away(franchise QB) and Seattle will not bench Wilson(Franchise QB). Now again I will repeat this…I am not saying Foles isn’t going to be our Franchise QB but we have to give him one more year to make it 100%. Also…if those guys get injured during the season, they will still be the starter when they are healthy. Could we 100% say that about Foles.
          LOL I know this post sounds like I am hating on Foles but trust me I am not.

          • theycallmerob

            Could we 100% say that about Foles.

            yes. yes, we can.
            Wilson was NOT drafted as a starter, he won that in camp. If Foles was competing against Matt Flynn in camp, he too would have started from Game 1.
            It’s not that you’re hating on him; there’s just no basis to the argument other than hypotheticals, which can be said about those other two as well (particularly Wilson).

            Go look at their first 16 games and Foles’.

          • GEAGLE

            We are just going to have to copy and paste Lawlors article comparing FOles to everyone’s favorite QBs constantly until people get it…
            .
            We have a young QB who at this point in his young career, practically out performed the NFLs entire history, yet people still won’t embrace the kid.,,,why do the people who assume he isnt that answer, think that he wouldn’t continue to improve? Just ridiculous…if we draft Jamis Winston and he plays the way FOles did, he would already be on the cover of madden, and have his own Nike shoes…
            ..
            Tired of people factoring name brand or lack their of into their opinion of FOles..29 friggin TDs, 2 INTs and a fumble…this fanbase is absurd

          • BirdGang

            Who cares what that article says. And can you tell me one instant that you saw anyone say anything negative about Foles. All I was saying is that he is not 100% our franchise QB. I think he needs one more year playing at a high level. Also, because we don’t fully know what Chip wants in a QB. Look at the SF QB situation. Alex Smith was playing GREAT before he was injured. But CK came in and had an entire different skill set that the coaches liked more. Could you not see the same thing happen in Philly?

          • Media Mike

            I hope not. I don’t want to be subjected to watching unwatchable scramble bum nonsense. That type of play needs to be gone from the NFL ASAP. If another passer supplants Foles, so be it. I’m not interested in unwatchable garbage dead end running QB football however.

          • BirdGang

            True and I get that…but I think people think that just because a QB can run means that he cant throw. A lot of the young QBs are a threat to run and pass. And if we found a QB that can do both then I am all for it. Now I am not saying we need to go out and find another QB because I am damn happy with Foles. LOL but I don’t think he is untouchable like Brady Rodgers Brees Luck.

          • Media Mike

            I get that, but the guys who are trying to read one and run make the game unwatchable and I don’t want to see our team play that way.

          • BirdGang

            Wilson, Roders Cam(I think he is starting to go through his reads more this season). Those are the guys I am talking about…not someone like CK.

          • Media Mike

            Word up on Wilson and especially Rodgers as great players. Not a fan of Newton either.

          • Philly0312

            I would argue that you assign the term franchise qb too liberally…more so than anyone actually deciding on nfl rosters (gms). We all see why the two teams in the NFC championship game are there…and it isn’t qb play. They played good enough not to lose. Those gms do not think they are done looking at qbs…and if either falter once the defenses for both teams dwindles slightly due to inability to resign players, both would be found wanting in their current state. But you know what? I bet foles with any of those three defenses wins a superbowl. It’s complete conjecture, but it’s the little things. Look at lucks int on the pass to havili yesterday – the announcer gave him a pass because it was a drop…well okay..but if luck puts it on the front shoulder instead of back shoulder it’s a catch. Foles seems to always put the ball right where it needs to be. Wilson was throwing behind guys all day and they still got the win. If you asked me who I would rather have based on what I’ve seen the last two years for the next ten years: foles, rg3, rw, ck, luck, cam…I’d go foles, then luck, although he has been horrible in the playoffs. It’s not even a hard choice.

          • Richard Colton

            Maybe Newton’s second read on that play WAS Whitner

          • theycallmerob

            ha, was about to say the same. These QBs aren’t impressive; their defenses are.

          • GEAGLE

            Functional mobility I’m cool with! but I’m sorry, I will never want to see a super athlete play QB for us…I’m convinced these freak athletes who play QB are cripples as passers because they can use their athleticism to get them out of binds Especially at the high school and College level…to where as guys with just functional mobility have no choice but to properly develop as passers….until I see a super athlete QB win a SB, I just can’t be down with us going that route AGAIN!! All my life all I have ever known is Randall,McNabb,Vick…and I never had a parade to show for it. Try something different..give me an immobile stiff who is smart enough to develop into a guy that can identify and manipulate defenses pre snap and then surgically Dissect them with his arm…if that’s not FOles, then find me the immobile stiff who is

          • Maggie

            I doubt that MM hates mobile QB’s for their ability to run. he has been calling them all garbage for some time now.

          • Maggie

            After watching Wilson and Kaepernick win this weekend, I have to question Media Mike’s motivation for hating on “mobile” quarterbacks. Wonder if their mobility is the only quality about them that MM hates.

          • Media Mike

            I don’t like Johnny Football playing that garbage style either. Read one and run football in unwatchable and will ruin the NFL if widely adopted. It’ll make the league into a disorganized mess. And Wilson often tempers the running with smartly keeping his eyes down field, planting his feet properly, and making a throw. Check out some Greg Cosell for a full take down of this trash type of football played by Cam, Kaep, Johnny Football, etc.

          • Richard Colton

            depends on how you define “franchise QB.” Rob gave his “unquestioned starter.” Is that your answer too?

          • BirdGang

            I think it has to be more than one year. To me franchise is someone you build around for years. Manning Brady Brees Rodgers just to name a few. I will say this again…if Foles plays like he did this past season…he will be the unquestioned franchise QB. He just needs one more year to do it. I am never a big fan of crowning someone as a franchise QB or an elite QB after only one year. You can have an elite season but that doesn’t make you an elite player

          • theycallmerob

            Manning Brady Brees and Rodgers are Hall of Famers. That’s a whole different level of greatness.

          • Richard Colton

            ok. if that’s your definition, then your post was 100% fair. You’re using “franchise” the way I use “elite.” Foles isn’t there yet – another year putting up the #s he did this year? he will be.

          • theycallmerob

            Harbaugh drafted Kaep. He played the hot hand til it was injured, and Kaep played well enough to keep the job.
            The only parallel would be if Foles was hurt and Barkley (who Chip drafted) came in and played lights-out. Chip didn’t draft Vick or Nick.

            If a QB is chosen in the first 3 rounds this year, then we can be suspicious.

          • Richard Colton

            yep. Had Foles been a 1st round pick – this season would have been CONFIRMATION, and his pro-bowl selection a CORONATION. I’m sold. He’s the franchise until he proves otherwise.

          • BrickSquadMonopoly

            Foles is just a gamer. If he was as good in practice as he was in the games he would have easily beat out Mike Vick in camp but he couldn’t. Its all about the real games.

          • theycallmerob

            he never looked bad. Vick just looked better. He’ll look great in shorts during the summer until he’s 50 years old, and was simply terrific in the PS. he even looked good during the RS. But like most of his career, the scheme didn’t quite mask his inconsistent nature and knack for getting injured.

          • Maggie

            Perhaps it should be remembered by some of the folks you are replying to, that both Kaepernick, who should be included in this discussion, and Wilson did not start last season. Throw in a couple of somewhat older names, like Rodgers, Brady and even Kurt Warner, to back up the fact that a non-starter in his first season CAN become the franchise QB very quickly.

        • BirdGang

          But to answer your question..I think Luck was the Franchise QB since day 1. I think Wilson earned that title after this season. Like I said I think you need 2 years…unless you were drafted to start right away.

          • theycallmerob

            Franchise is such a subjective term; if you ask the question of “is _____ the unquestioned starter going into 2014?”, the answer is yes for all 3 guys.

          • BirdGang

            You are right about that. But to me, I think being the unquestioned started and being the franchise QB are completely different.
            So answer this real quick(and I am not asking because I know the answer, I just want to see what you think) looking 3 years into the future can we 100% say all 3 of those guys will be the unquestioned starter?

          • theycallmerob

            I’d say yes to Luck.

            For the other two, it depends on the surrounding cast. SEA in particular will have a lot of tough decisions coming up with the cap. They lucked into all those talented late round guys and UDFAs (who are playing on cheap rookie contracts). But if they decide wilson is more important and the OL, RB, and defense suffer because of it, he may not look as good as he does today.
            The same for Foles. He’s not Elway talented, but if he develops mentally there is no reason he can’t be the starter. I’d say he’s the biggest uncertainty mainly because of Chip, and the general lack of knowledge about how he wants to build a team.

          • BirdGang

            I agree with you about Luck. But I will throw Wilson in there also. No one will remember that he only threw for 100 yards..because they won. Now with Foles I think it gets tricky, because like you said we don’t really know want kind of structure Chip wants. BUT if he plays like he did this season…EVERYONE will stop questioning him.

          • theycallmerob

            If the supporting casts on both teams were reversed, you’d be praising Foles and doubting Wilson.

          • anon

            I think we need some marquee wins where Foles puts the team on his back. Games where McCoy doesn’t get going we lose.

          • theycallmerob

            you mean like the OAK game, 2nd WAS game, or ARI game?

          • anon

            No i mean against real teams. Arizona was the closest. For instance if we beat Seattle next year or the other tough teams we play, especially if we win through the air instead of on the ground — but i can’t call a win against a 3-13 team a marquee win, i’m surprised you can.

          • theycallmerob

            I’m too lazy to look, but I’d love to know how many games Wilson or Cam has won (against your standard of “good team”) by carrying a team on their respective backs. In fact, before this year (with a top defense making him look good), many people were calling Cam a bust. And that’s with his running ability.

            Kaep, Wilson, and Cam had the benefit of playing with arguably the 3 best defenses this year. Would we even have this discussion if Foles played even worse but had 2-3 more defensive wins?

          • NickS1

            Scam is a running back with an arm.

          • Media Mike

            And not much of either today.

          • theycallmerob

            but he’s a franchise guy, because his defense carries them to the playoff and he stopped turning the ball over as much.

            Look, we all know Foles has flaws. But so long as all these guys are held to the same standards, I can live with them- since they’re the kind that coaching and experience can fix.
            Some of these guys with legs but no brain get a pass because of the Wow factor.

          • NickS1

            They actually all get a pass for that. It’s incredible. I’d be curious to know what #7 says about this. He’s the first person to say crap like “Foles can’t carry a team when it counts” and “He can’t put a team on his back and carry them to a win when everything else is failing”… Well, a “franchise QB” today couldn’t do it when it counted today. Hell, he couldn’t even get a late 4th quarter lead and have his defense fail when they were needed. He just got shut down entirely. But, he’s another freak athlete QB so the “Wow” factor grants him a pass. No one is questioning whether Cam is a franchise QB right now.

          • anon

            SF does have a good D…

          • NickS1

            So do the Saints.

          • theycallmerob
          • anon

            that’s 50 times more important than whether someone thinks he’s franchise or not, he’s hungry.

          • theycallmerob

            unlimited upvotes for that.

            working out the day everyone’s cleaning out their lockers? that’s what I’m talking about

          • anon

            I don’t think RW is anything special i actually think their offense is bad. RW doesn’t do anything except give the ball to lynch. Harvin is a game changer obviously but the scheme isn’t great.

          • NickS1

            Minnesota is laughing all the way to the bank with that Harvin trade.

          • anon

            Yeah SEA could have gotten patterson and had a good player that won’t be out all season. They really only need harvin for one game – we’ll see.

          • theycallmerob

            I didn’t ask if they’re good; I’m merely wondering where all their big-game wins are that guarantees the franchise label? These are Foles true peers, based on age and experience. The fact that his #’s are compared to brady, rodgers, and manning is incredible. that’s all there is to it.

          • anon

            Foles clearly gets less respect b/c he’s a backup. But if in your first two years you win 15/16 at home they might call you franchise too.

          • theycallmerob

            *was a backup :)

          • Philly0312

            No…I will always remember he only threw for 100 yards. First…There are 4 franchise qbs in the nfl…manning, brees, brady, rodgers. That’s it. I’ll take foles over Wilson and luck. Neither have impressed me. Luck is ridiculously talented but turns the ball over very regularly. Wilson is a hack. He is a high character guy who is not asked to do much. He’s got above average arm talent, good athleticism, good drive, but never wins games for you…He makes sure not to lose them. Not that that is a bad thing…but I doubt he will ever be as good as people irrationally make him out to be. Once the salary cap pressures the roster he won’t sit as pretty.

          • Richard Colton

            Foles over Luck? can’t agree with that…yet.

          • Andy124

            +1 for yet.

    • GreenBleedin

      Well said. I’m with some friends and several are still lobbying to trade up for Johnny Football

    • anon

      I don’t think that’a a totally fair comparison. Luck bought them back from down 30 against a top 5 defense last week. Their no. 1 RB is someone you’ve never heard of. Their line is ok. They only have one WR you’ve ever heard of and he’s a second year guy. So i think he gets a pass, especially considering they beat all the best teams this year. Their defense gave up like 50 points.

      I do agree that RW isn’t that great, and their offense isn’t great. If you can manage to score on their defense then you can win b/c i think it’s hard for seattle to put up points. I think we’d match up ok against seattle but Lynch might run all over our D.

      • BlindChow

        Luck may have brought them back, but he was also the one who got them there in the first place with all his turnovers.

        Here are his playoff stats (3 games):

        77 of 140 (55%) for 1062 yards – 6 TD, 8 INT – Passer Rating 70.0

      • Explorer51

        It’s a comparison only because it’s so ridiculous; Luck, who is terrific of course, threw 7…count ‘em…7 interceptions (including three against the Patriots who only had 17 all season) in his two playoff games. But he had an amazing second half against the Andy Reid coached Chiefs so he is beyond criticism? BTW, Chiefs are ranked 23rd in total D and 5th in Points Allowed; New Orleans was 4th in total D and Points Allowed yet Foles led a two TD comeback and left the game with a lead.

        The point is that, for some crazy reason, some folks in this town refuse to see what we have…a young, unassuming guy who works his ass off and just happens to have had a record setting season and who left his first playoff game after taking the lead. Yet he continues to be questioned as to his status with his team.

    • http://julianivey.com/ Julian Ivey

      Once Foles has an entire season of starting under his belt I’ll feel a little better about him. I’m not saying he’s not the guy but a comparison to Luck isn’t quite the same. Luck has started two full seasons. Foles hasn’t done that yet.

    • Tom w

      Who in Philadelphia is talking about manzel?? I haven’t heard a peep about him or any first rd qbs and the eagles or any print media member suggesting anything or pushing anything … Was it one of the dopes in the radios or just some dopey fan you talked too? Id say the great majortity of media and fans are inboard w foles for atleast the rest of his contract. Enlighten me?

    • Scott J

      I get your point, but Seattle and Indianapolis are small cities. They don’t have the same amount of sports shows and newspapers like Philly does. Go to Chicago and New York and see what they’re saying about Cutler, Manning, and Geno Smith. When theres too many reporters, theres too many stories, and every reporter needs a different angle. And lets face it, people want to read about trash. That’s why WIP is so popular. I don’t agree with it though.

      • Explorer51

        Actually Scott, neither Seattle or Indianapolis are considered small media markets. The former has almost two million TV homes and the latter 1.1 million; Philadelphia is bigger than both at 2.9 million but is tiny compared to New York’s 7.5 million. Also, both Indy and Seattle have at least three radio stations dedicated to sports/sports talk and like Philadelphia their print media has now consolidated under one ownership group. The online sports presence, particularly in the advanced digital location of Seattle, is thriving as well. And though I don’t observe the sports coverage on a daily basis, I’m guessing that more fan emphasis is placed on the Seahawks and Colts since there are fewer professional sports franchises in both cities.

        I would think that Cutler, Eli, and Geno Smith have taken some heat in Chicago and NYC but that may be due to the seasons they’ve had rather than the size of the city they play in. But do you really think that if Geno Smith, for example, had the numbers and wins that Nick Foles had this season there would be “is he really the guy” type questions in the press? Nah.

  • JofreyRice

    eh, had a little something to do with the Saints RB’s. They were running harder/more slippery than they have all year, and clearly, Payton was committed to trying to get them going; it seemed like Brees was below his mark for both of these games, and maybe the Saints HC understood, and tried to mitigate that.

    According to PFF, the Birds missed 10 tackles, while Seattles vaunted D missed 8.

    What pissed me off more was the short yardage stuff on 3rd down. Seattle had an answer, the Eagles did not.

    • cliff henny

      isnt some of this Seattle’s D is just really freaking good. if i had to rank reasons for eagles’ losing : 1. 1st and 15 becoming missed 47 yd FG 2. cooper’s drop 3. Defense getting run on 4. Roc kicking ball into end zone 5. Chung, just because, somewhere Chung is at fault

      • GEAGLE

        Somewhere on that list blame has to go to the most potent rushing attack in the NFL laying an egg….Had shady and our line done their part we would have scored 30 and the defense would be praised for a masterful job..shady and the line was the strength of the 2014 Eagles, and they didn’t show up…The passing game did it’s part when it needed to get them back into the game, but shady and the Oline didn’t hold up their end of the bargain early on.

        Who knows what the defense woulda done that last drive if they had to go the length of the field..ST killed us the last month of the season

        • Richard Colton

          Howie bought in Molk to punish the D-line for the Saints game.

      • anon

        GEAGLE’s right our line got beat on both sides of ball, Foles too some inopportune sacks, and all the things you said. Good thing is that it was a TEAM loss (on all 3 sides of the ball).

      • JofreyRice

        Agree with GEAGLE below. We saw Lynch go off on NO’s run D. Shady came up small in that game. Sure, part of it was on the line, but part of it is on the back. Lynch made a great move on Roman Harper in the backfield for one of his TD runs.

        Foles played really well this season, but I think even Chip Kelly would tell you they want to be a running team first. When the league’s leading rusher is bottled up like that, combined with all the other shortcomings, it’s pretty much impossible to win. As happy as I am about the season, it’s a little galling, because I don’t think the Saints were better than the Eagles. They just happened to play a little better that day.

    • GEAGLE

      I honestly didn’t believe Ingram had that in him. When the hell did that dude ever run so damn hard?

      I can understand getting ran on when Boykin is in, and Logan is on the bench. We simply don’t have the safeties who will come up,deliver the BOOM to be able to have a chance against heavy TE packages trying to pound the ball…

      What hurt me the most was clear short yardage situations, and Drew Brees gaining 6 friggin yards per QB sneak…That REALLY REALLY HURTS,,,

      • anon

        Not him, more the line i think. They brought that UFA RB yesterday and he was crushing it too.

        But yeah our line needs to hit he gym. Only good thing is that our whole line is young.

      • Philly0312

        Honestly. ..watched a lot of Saints games this year…Ingram ran like that in every Big game I watched. When I heard Thomas was out I was upset…because we would have won easily with him in there. Ingram, if nothing else, is super talented. Thomas is below average talent who shouldn’t start.

  • Clamdigger

    Why is it always the mediocre nobodies that run their mouths?

    • mksp

      Michael Bennett is hardly a mediocre nobody. To start, he plays a big role on one of the best defenses in the league. Here’s a little primer on him:

      http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/72853/the-all-22-all-stars-michael-bennett-seattles-prodigal-son

      Also, he was right. We got blown off the ball and our LBs were missing tackles, and overpursuing all night.

      • Clamdigger

        He’s a rotational guy on the best defense in the league. He’s productive there because that entire defense is solid and has to be accounted for. He’d be mediocre anywhere else – which he was.

        • GEAGLE

          He is about to get PAID…”he was mediocre everywhere else”..or he was just a young player now coming into his own…Don’t like him as an OLB so I don’t care what happens to him

          • Clamdigger

            He came in to the league in ’09. He’s had 2 decent seasons. He’s been more productive than Brandon Graham, but that’s not saying much.

          • Clamdigger

            Jason Babin got paid too.

  • ridusofreid

    I agree. D did not play angry. It’s playoffs. Saints D and Seahawks D were passionate yesterday. Did not see same intensity from our D.

    • Media Mike

      Learning experience. I’m sure they’ll be much more intense for next year’s divisional game coming off of our bye week.

      • anon

        Nah, we have a fair amount of vets with playoff experience, we should have been jacked up trying to hit anything and everything. I think Nola came in kind of as undedogs given their road record. Additionally our offense is a finesse offense so toughness doesn’t run through the whole team…yet.

        Sort of think we need a statement mean guy acquisition. As much as i love our line and our linebackers and our DBs, theres no one on our team that i’d be sacred of getting hit by.

        • Maggie

          I know what you mean. Mel Blount or Jack Lambert types. Vicious but legal. (Yes, I know, I’m dating myself.)

  • Beastmode

    It sure seemed to me that birds had trouble with the SIZE of sproles. Like they were making contact early but he was just underneath them somehow.

  • Tag

    I wholeheartedly agree with Bennetts comment. Our D is soft, low effort and inconsistent. Coming Draft/free agency we need to find an impact defensive player. Name a player in our D that’s feared upon…there’s no one. Personally I’m not a big fan of Cox he’s inconsistent in a 3 4 scheme and he was inconsistent in a 4 3 scheme. Recall Cary Williams play on playoffs where he let lance moore cruise to the endzone. Watched Seattle’s secondary last night….man they’ve got some men up there. We need to address our D line/olinbacker in Draft or free agency.

    • GEAGLE

      Lol you d realize Cox should have just finished his senior year? Why in the hell would you expect consistency out of a young player who has been given ZERO continuity since we drafted him? let a promising player have two seasons in a row with the same coaches playing the same role before you talk about how he is under performing for your taste lol..the kid is two gaping for the fist time in his life Without even having his grown man strength yet, on a front 7 that didn’t get run on by ANYONE for 16 regular season games

      The line of Ced,Logan,and Cox shut down every single run game they faced…the saints didn’t run wild on THAT front..the front that got pounded on was our Nickle front of Barwin,Ced,Cox,Cole….and you can’t bash Cox playoff performance without bashing every other Eagle

      • anon

        I think we got run on a fair amount in the beginning of the season. I thought our defense was good but comparing to seattle it’s not even close. Agree i’m not sure why Cox got singled out — the softness runs through our whole roster and our schemes. But look at all the NFC teams playing this week all teams w strong defenses.

        • GEAGLE

          Take September out of the equation, we weren’t even a defense yet then…after the Denver game, who the hell ever ran on us during the regular season?

          • anon

            Minny ran for 3 tds. But i agree i thought our run d was good.

      • Tag

        Most of the colleges run a pro style offense and defense so these kids coming out of colleges are expected to perform from the get go. If I recall JJ Watt, Sheldon Richardson are beast compared to Fletcher Cox. I hope he’s not regressing. Who would you rather have drafted QB Russell Wilson or QB Nick Foles, S Earl Thomas or DE/OLD Brandon Graham, LB Mychal Kendricks or LB Bobby Wagner, DE Viny Curry or CB Casey Hayward, T Lane Johnson or T DJ Fluker/T Kyle Long?

        • anon

          Ouch — so you’re saying seattle has a better GM than we do?

        • Maggie

          Ask that question in another 3 years.

        • GEAGLE

          I won’t even dignify this short sited crap with a real response

  • dislikedisqus

    Congratulations Nick!

    • NickS1

      Thanks!…. What’d I do?

      • Richard Colton

        for dropping the Saenz. NS1 gives you so much more street cred. its edgy.

        • theycallmerob

          nah…needs the $

  • hawaiieaglesfan

    Great for St Nick.

    Watching sf car game. Gettin jim johonson flashbacks with the way carolina playing d. Sean McDermot has really grown as d coordinator. Love that corner blitz and Quinton almost had a pick6 off that zone drop coverage. Typical jj calls. Love that Carolina d.

    • Media Mike

      Any and all credit for D goes to Rivera. McDermott is a stiff.

      • Mitchell

        Did Rivera study under J.J. too?

        • Media Mike

          He did, but clearly designed the D they use in Carolina himself and has McDermott there as his sidekick.

  • anon

    What’s Sconces say when he first came here? No one respects us. Hopefully this will give our D and Howie something to think about in the offseason.

  • Tom W

    Guesses on Cooper’s contract? Horrible career except for one good year (not great by any stretch) – system guy – ability to adjust to outside lockerooms; hometown discount for qb and team that he fits best with

    No way is he getting what Hartline or amendola got last year (5-6 mil) Both had much better career numbers and prior year numbers. Think that dope from philly.com was way off w 5 mil or more a year …

    Look at Jordy Nelson’s, James Jones, Brandon Gibson’s contracts from last year … around 3 -3.5 mil a year for 3-4 years w 3.5-5 mil guaranteed. I’m letting him walk if he needs more than that…

    Thoughts?

    • anon

      Agree but who cares? Copper’s good (i really do like him), but he’s not a possession receiver, he doesn’t run routes like Hartline or Danny A, he’s a less talented Jordy. I’d give him 3-3.5, but draft comes first so we’ll see based on that. Plenty of WR talent out there.

      • Tom W

        Anon — Draft comes two months later after free agency so we need to figure out cooper and maclin first.

        Who cares what — I said he doesnt deserve hartline or amendola money. So we are in agreement?

        • anon

          You are right Tom forgot they moved the draft back. Matters more bc if you wiff in FA you have to reach in the draft. I say who cares b/c i think were going to talk ourselves crazy bc of the contract of an OK No. 2 WR. If some team wants to overpay let them. I think our O helps the numbers of our skill players and we’re a team going someplace. I feel like the teams giving him money are probably not still playing football right now. I don’t think he’s our Anquan — but i could be wrong.

          • NickS1

            Watching Anquan today, I really wished, again, we traded the 6th rounder last year for him. That’s the kind of guy Foles needs to be throwing to. A big physical dude that can get off the LOS and into his route. I know he’s 32 and it was never going to happen, but I just envisioned Foles throwing to a guy who can get off the press.

          • Media Mike

            We can draft our own Boldin.

          • Tom W

            Kid from USC reminds me of him … I count about 12 wrs I would be happy with in top 3 rounds w nice grades and potential in this system….

          • NickS1

            You have a Boldin tree? Haven’t see many like him since he’s been in the league.

          • Media Mike

            no, but we don’t need 32 year old players here.

          • NickS1

            Well, you missed the part where I acknowledged it was never going to happen.

          • anon

            He’d make a big difference, but given that was the biggest hole in the offense i wouldn’t be surprised if we go after something in the first round.

          • theycallmerob

            except SF knew their window is closing, so they needed him. No need to bring in a 32 yr old if our D wasn’t ready. I’d rather grab the young gun.

          • NickS1

            I know all that, was just dreaming.

          • theycallmerob

            boy, watching the DEN-SD game is the same thing; look what a good D is doing to Rivers.

            I think we’re just a few playmakers away. Foles, McCoy, Djax, Ertz, and our line can compete with almost anyone. Sure, another WR or 2 would make us one of the best offenses, period. But man, 2 or 3 guys on the other side of the ball….

          • NickS1

            I could be wrong, but I feel like they’ve generally had an average to above average D. Obv it helps, but Rivers has significantly reduced his turnovers this season, which as been the biggest change. He’s always been a good QB, finally has the right coach for him, I think. We’ll see how it translates, like all of the new coaches/schemes/players, into next season.

          • anon

            We’ve always had good offensive skill players.

          • theycallmerob

            true. but now, they’re married to a scheme that takes full advantage of their talents.
            Chip inherited a lot, and schemed on the fly. He now has months to plan based on known strengths, and the ability to bring in guys he feels supplement our core.
            I’ve never felt better about the direction of the offense. Just a matter of whether or not we can hit a home run on some defensive guys in the draft.

          • anon

            I do think it’ll be great when he has a whole offseason to plan and he knows the players — easy to forget that we started from scratch in april.

          • GEAGLE

            Yes sir!! And it’s so exciting that we will have the continuity of bring back 10 starters on defense so we can actually build off this year, instead of having to initially take a few steps backwards to then go forward…The continuity we will get should have us playing some good ball early in the year when many teams are finding their footing…
            ..
            We have good teachers and veterans in place for young talent we bring in, so I’m at the point where I just want Howie to draft exceptional raw talent that just doesn’t grow on trees. I don’t care about who helps us the most in September, get these coaches young super athletes, sit back and watch them develop them…
            ..
            Just draft supreme athletes that aren’t easy to find, and I don’t care how Raw they are:
            1) Anthony Barr, explosive pass rusher who was friggin RB two years ago
            .,,
            2) Kelvin Benjamin, raw as hell Alshon Jeffries type

            Mike Evans, basically a college sized OLB playing WR who runs like a deer (Vincent Jax type athlete)

            Sheed Hagemen, 6’7 305lb DT who is so agile that he was playing TE a few years ago…

            Just get that RARE athletic ability that is tough to find, and let our coaches worry about turning them into quality football players,,.so awesome to trust your coaching staff and front office

          • Tom W

            I totally completely agree with you except that Foles seems to trust him.

            But this brings up a bigger point — at what point are we the fans and or FO overweighing our own guys and not realizing this offensive system could make studs out of alot of big wrs?

            If someone wants to overpay for Cooper I agree let him walk and I lose no sleep at all. But lose coop and maclin, and we are weakening our wr cores — would need to sign atleast one comparable vet (top 15 free agent) and draft a stud in first 3 rounds and keep avant and smith and need another wr.

            If coop is the ultimate system guy, then he needs to understand that and come in at a reasonable number.

          • anon

            Agree, fans of every team do that. They could shake up the WRs — there’s some good system guys in FA, McCluster especially.

          • NickS1

            McCluster is intriguing.

          • GEAGLE

            He intruigs me because if we sign him we don’t have to worry about Chip chasing DAT in the draft, and because stylistically chip has done well with guys like Dexter..

          • Media Mike

            And we’d have a real return man!

          • Tom W

            I’d part ways w Avant (or cut and resign for vet minimum) for the chance for McCluster as our slot. Black Mamba could fill that need too … and the kid from Baylor I think …

          • anon

            Agree, i’d guy Maehl and DJ2 first. I think Avant is good for the rookies — teaches them how to be a pro. I largely credit him for Ertz improved catching this year.

          • Tom W

            Totally cut them first .. no problem keeping avant for 2 more years at a lower number though.

          • Tom W

            Along those lines here are other players I think we as fans overvalue (aside from chemistry and leadership)

            1) Cooper
            2) Avant
            3) Casey
            4) Herramins

            Understanding we can’t upgrade over them all, and get 2 safeties, 2 wrs, a passrusher, a nt, a young corner, a young qb … I think I would say Avant gets cut, Coop gets a reasonable deal or hits the road, bring in competition for Todd, and talk to Casey about taking less money or cut him and reload.

          • anon

            haha i don’t think anyone overvalues Casey :). I think Casey needs to run 20,000 routes before training camp and Ertz needs to do 20,000 blocking drills (maybe they can work together).

            But agree those guys are upgradeable. Interesting to see what we do to address.

          • Richard Colton

            Decker is going to break the bank. Once he’s gone, if you’re a team that has to upgrade its WR corps, who is a 2nd tier guy you can sign? Maclin and Cooper both start to look attractive.
            The biggest thing we have in our favor (in terms of keeping what we have and/or replacing what we lose) is the strength of this WR class.

          • anon

            I think that’s going to make it tough for some of those FAs to get paid.

          • GEAGLE

            I think you as fans under value continuity…wanna move on from Todd? Do it after you draft and spend a year grooming his replacement…

          • Tom W

            Didn’t say move on — said bring in competition. He is an aging guard on a tackle contract in his decline. he had a below average year for a guard. I’m expecting him to grade out in the bottom third of the league. Understand lane was next to him, but I disagree he improved as the year went on. I don’t believe he played all that well against the Cards, Vikes, Cowgirls or Saints … I think Sheil is too generous to both him and Lane in his game analysis. I also think barbre could perform as well as Todd.

            Moreover, three olinemen pushing 32-33 is a bit scary …

          • GEAGLE

            I’m not opposed to bringing in competition at any position…as long as all the pressing needs get addressed..

            I damn sure wouldn’t pass on OG Cyril Richardson if he fell to us in round 2 if I’m Howie..dude is the best guard in the draft hands down and can play in our scheme

          • GEAGLE

            In fairness this offense didn’t jump up in the air and battle DBs coming down with huge jump balls all year, Coop did that!
            ..
            I don’t expect this to be an issue that the two sides won’t resolve..you give him a 4-5mil per year contract that you have to revisit two years later like we did with Desean, and you load it with incentives..if he wants to continue being a 10TD per year beast and reach his incentive good for him and GOOd For US, why shouldn’t he get paid if he continues to it beast?
            ….
            We are going to go young at WR, which means we will be paying 2-3 guys rookie deals for the next 4-5 years, if we go young then we can easily pay Desean and Coop, and the hope is two of our young WRs we draft grow into stars 3 years from now, and Desean and Coop can walk just in time to extend the contracts of the The star WRs we developed…

            Now if we were planning on signing a bunch of FA WRs, I could understand letting Coop walk..but if we are loading up on young WRs in the draft,then who the hell cares about paying Coop and Desean while you have a bunch of kids being them on rookie deals that won’t be eligible for contract extensions til 2017?

          • Tom W

            How was coop doing in 2012 under Foles? Not nearly the same production.

            Tds are very very inconsistent and fickle for any wr from year to year … to pay Cooper 4-5 million based on 10 tds one year is a bit short cited … He has difficulties beating one on one coverage .. he can block well and is good in the redzone. Lets not overrate him … most of his production came in 2 games as well.

            I’d pay him market value for a wr2-3 his age w average numbers …If howie wants to front load it so he can get out of it 2 yrs later, that works all the better for me.

          • GEAGLE

            Whoa whoa whoa, we are going to make serious mistakes basing our opinions on last years mess…and if you go back and watch it you can already see signs of their chemistry…remember when balls were clanking off Celeks hands and hitting Maclin in the face? Avant and Coop were the only ones playing for the kid last year…
            ..
            Let me ask you a question! as a WR is Coop an Elite blocker?

          • GEAGLE

            Paying coop 4mil is short sited? Our 3rd TE who plays ST makes 4mil…if Coop is going to continue to line up the majority of the snaps, block DBs into the stands, and be our QBs safety net, then why the hell wouldn’t we pay Coop 4mil? Coop is a young guy too, who’s only been in this offense for 1 year, why would you assume that he wouldn’t improve in this offense with this QB?
            .,..
            It’s a mistake to look at better talent and just assume it would be a better fit here, finding selfless WRs isn’t that easy and the grass isn’t always greener..I don’t care how bad or good Coop would be for denver or the Jags, for us…..he WORKS!

      • Tom W

        I cared bc over at igglesblitz it was relayed that the beat reporter for the eagles heard that cooper’s camp and others thoughts Cooper’s market was alteast 5 mil a year … seemed like way too much for everyone on that site

      • Dr Rick

        He didn’t help his case with that game changing drop across the middle.

  • Tom W

    Thoughts on what it will take to sign Clemons from Miami at safety assuming it will cost upwards of 8-9 million year to sign Byrd or Ward …

    I’m thinking somewhere near Clover Quinn’s last year … so around 4 mil a year for 3-5 years??

    Wow just realized Grigson and the Colts really overpaid for a bunch of okay defensive guys …. understandable but that richardson deal looks even worse w no first rounder to improve that d

    • anon

      Yeah they went win now and lost. They whiffed on that richardson trade, HARD, especially considering there are probably better players on the st. right now.

    • Richard Colton

      Irsay is as bad as Jerruh – he’s just fan friendly and nuts, so nobody calls him out on his nonsense either.

      • Media Mike

        Irsay, as all of my friends in Baltimore tell me, should die screaming for theft of franchise.

        • theycallmerob

          that is correct.

    • GEAGLE

      I’m wary of Clemons..Safeties are so hard to find, Clemons isn’t old, he isn’t super expensive, and Miami doesn’t have another young safety waiting in the wings so why are they letting him walk? I can understand the bills not wanting to spend 50million, but why would mIami let him go? Sounds rather Nate Allen-ish to me….rather spend some money on Whitner so we can really go into the draft BPA style….I think Quinn is a better player then Clemons…

      • Maggie

        Don’t forget Miami’s management is totally dysfunctional right now. It’s hard to know how to understand anything they have done lately.