Inside the Drive Gone Wrong

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First-and-10 from the Saints’ 15, late in the opening quarter. Drew Brees had just thrown his first interception of the day, the crowd was smelling blood and the Eagles were threatening. It was the first chance to establish superiority. Instead, a nightmare sequence developed.

Brent Celek was dropped for an eight-yard loss on a screen play.  Then Nick Foles, with all day to throw, never pulled the trigger and took an 11-yard sack. A play later, Alex Henery knuckled a 48-yard field goal attempt wide left.

“Part of the turnover thing as I’ve talked about before is if our defense does create them we need to do something with them offensively, and we didn’t capitalize the way we need to when our defense creates turnovers like that,” said Chip Kelly.


What went wrong? Let's take a look:

On the screen play to Celek, the key figure is former Eagle defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley. The Eagles are trying to sell a traditional passing play. As you can see below, DeSean Jackson and Zach Ertz are carrying out their routes on the right side of the field while Celek begins to leak out into the flat on the left.

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Foles is looking right to try and sell the downfield throw. But Bunkley (blue arrow) isn't biting. The Eagles want him to be in the backfield at this point. But he has sniffed out the screen and begins moving towards Celek.

"The main problem was that the d-tackle read out of it and they were in man coverage, so Evan [Mathis] got eaten up on the defensive tackle and the linebacker who was playing the man, nobody got to him on time," said Jason Kelce. "I think we could have done a better job up front of selling the action to the right. I think that's why the d-tackle stopped."

Here's what Kelce is talking about:

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Mathis is forced to block Bunkley. If Bunkley had taken the bait, Mathis would be able to focus on Curtis Lofton. Instead, Lofton comes in unblocked.

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That set up a 2nd-and-18. The Saints only send three after Foles, who is scanning and scanning but unable to find a throw he likes. The ball was snapped with 12 seconds remaining in the first quarter. Nine seconds ticked off before Foles was eventually brought down.

"I was trying to make a play. They dropped into coverage, and every time I had a guy open, they swiped and they kept swiping," said Foles. "At the last second when I was thinking about throwing the ball away, the guy grabbed my leg and sort of spun me, and at that time it was hard to really throw it away."

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"It was a bad decision by me. I definitely should have thrown it away in that situation."

LeSean McCoy picked up four yards on third down, setting up the 48-yard attempt. Henery said he made it from as far as 55 yards during warm-ups, but 48 was the top distance they were comfortable with for an in-game situation.

"The max number was right at the 30-yard line," said Henery. "I was hitting them fine...Science doesn't allow the ball to fly as far on a cold day like that. It's something you've got to work with and we worked with it and the field goal I just didn't hit well."

Had they done a  better sell job on the screen pass; if the alarm clock had gone off in Foles' head; if Henery hits it flush, we're talking about a different outcome to that drive, and maybe the game.

Often times, it just comes down to execution.

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  • Byter

    Foles has had a great year. My only picky problem is that this is not the first time (or 2nd or 3rd or 4th) time that Foles has held the ball too long. Everyone keeps saying he’s a fast learner but something is blocking his decision making in these circumstances (pressure and trying to do too much?).

    • addicted2mula

      Exactly! and we use to bash Vick for holding on to long

      • Byter

        Yeah but, I will amend my own statement and say that Foles just played his 18th game where Vick is a 10 year vet. I will give Foles the benefit of the doubt.

        • addicted2mula

          True. But Vick could at least hold on and try to use his legs. Foles wants to throw more then use his legs and pick up 2 or 3 yards. Now taking a sack that loses 3 or 4 yrds yes but 10 and 11 yrd sacks cant have those

          • theycallmerob

            no need to even bring Vick up; I doubt he goes all game turnover-free. all things considered, that was probably the one truly bad play Foles had all game. No shame in that.

          • addicted2mula

            It was but hopefully Chip gets Foles to throw it away. Those sacks can turn into turnovers

          • GEAGLE

            Doubt you have to worry Bout this kid and these coaches fixing correctable problems in due time

          • HowboutdemIggles

            If our kicker can make a kick longer than 35 yards that would be great.

    • Adam

      Something he needs to work on big time. I’m really excited to see what Chip can do with Foles during a full off season as the starter and maybe a new weapon at WR or a tweener RB/WR Black Mamba type player.

      • JofreyRice

        D’AT declared for the draft. He had a lackluster senior season. I don’t know what his draft stock is like, but I’d love to see what Chip could come up with for Black Mamba in the NFL.

        • #7

          Probably would take some time like it did for Tavon Austin. Dynamic player though

          • JofreyRice

            I have more faith in Kelly than I do in Jeff Fisher and Brian Schottenheimer. And taking Tavon that high is nuts, man, you don’t take a tiny little slot receiver in the top 10.

            I bet Kelly could figure out some stuff for him really quickly; would just be a matter of where you’d need to get him. I don’t think you’d take a player like that too high.

          • #7

            You have a point there, but Austin has a hard time breaking just simple arm tackles which was a major reason he struggled, and to your point, coaching.

            Chip appears to be a master at finding mismatches so he could have a better chance to shine with Chip

        • Adam

          I’m hearing 6th round, but I wouldn’t be upset if we over drafted him considering who our head coach is.

          • JofreyRice

            Oooh, 5th or 6th round would be awesome. No way he goes there if he runs a 4.3 or something, right? I know he’s raw, and small, but that is just world class speed.

            Imagine that? D’AT and Lesean in the backfield, with Jackson going in motion?

            Come to think of it, if they added another Duck, in Colt Lyerla in the 4th or something (his stock has got to be affected by the events), it’d be even better. Pouring gasoline on the fire.

          • Adam

            Yep, the big knock against him compared to guy like Tavon Austin is that he’s not a polished receiver yet. I think Chip could work wonders with him. We’ve got 2 5th’s so I’m a big fan of using one on him.

    • BrickSquadMonopoly

      He doesn’t always see the whole field.

      • Johnny Domino

        Tunnel vision: It’s a bitch.

      • #7

        there it is

    • #7

      Foles is above criticism

  • EaglefaninAZ

    I’m a huge Foles fan (always was), but I think his unwillingness to throw the ball away is akin to Vick’s unwillingness to slide. Bad things can happen in both cases. I firmly believe this bad habit can and will be coached out of Foles.

    • theycallmerob

      it’s not as if he never does. weren’t almost all his incompletions against CHI throwaways?

      for his age, exp., and the stage he was playing on, I can forgive 1 bad decision.

      • BrickSquadMonopoly

        As if he only held on to the ball too long once. That’s twatty

        • theycallmerob

          yea? did he fumble or throw picks? how many times was he sacked? did he lead a comeback down 2 scores? just STFU, you contribute nothing to these blogs ever

          you can follow your playoff-winning QB to whatever crap team he’s on next year

          • BrickSquadMonopoly

            I don’t owe this blog anything. I have no obligation to contribute anything this is for my enjoyment not anyone else’s. Dumb brit

          • theycallmerob

            spoken like a true douche, but hey, at least you fly your flag proudly. dunno who the brit is.

          • BrickSquadMonopoly

            Last word.

          • Tom w

            Dope

          • Johnny Domino

            If it’s Massengill, true that.

          • JofreyRice

            ha ha anti-British slurs on the Eagles blog, never thought I’d see the day!

          • Adam

            Hahaha spoken spoken like a true American

        • Will

          This game falls on Chip, going for it 4th and 1 at the 15 instead of kicking the FG and only 21 rushes for McCoy and not going deep earlier, the Eagles got away from what was working all year…Hopefully Chip learned the value of a FG in the NFL play offs…Foles was too timid granted but all things considered Foles did real well in his first play off game. Saint Nick needs to work on a 3 second mental clock and get the ball out in 3 seconds. I am proud of the effort of the team they gave it there all just wasn’t meant to be… should of run the ball down field when time was getting short in the 4th quarter…scored to fast you just can’t leave Brees 5 minutes and 4 seconds to work with. Especially when the New Orleans just put together a drive in 1 minute 58 seconds for a score.

          • Adam

            Don’t think the problem was with the number of carries he got. 21 isn’t a terrible amount. Problem was the lanes just weren’t there. Our line was getting handled. Polk and Brown should have seen a few touches too, to see if they could find anything.

          • Will

            McCoy should have had more carries…to many 3 and outs…

          • Adam

            The run wasn’t working.

          • Will

            Not gonna argue too sick about the team loss, this team wasn’t going to win the Super Bowl anyways…looking forward to next year with more changes to tweak what we have just love the effort the player’s gave all season long. Nick Foles was a pleasant surprise this year …

          • Tom w

            Seriously? We made it on 4 th. You are just second guessing. U play aggressive against great offenses. 21 rushes is a lot. We weren’t making first downs in first 3 quarters to run any pkays let alone runs. Not like we passed it a lot. Our offense only played well for one quarter — including the running game.

            I saw djax open once in the first half … Lewis shut djax down otherwise … People who don’t understand why the team loss just throwing around reasons … You crying we didn’t go deep enough or run enough … Others crying we didn’t run enough screens. Maybe saints d kicked our ass for 3 quarters. Maybe oline didn’t open up holes. Maybe foles was a tad conservative. Maybe coop dropped a ball. How’s that on chip? At some point your players need to execute. Number one offense all year … Saints had fourth best defense for a reason. Needed to score 7 in red zone and another 3 atleast on cooper’s drop drove. That 10 points is the game … Makes saints forced to throw more into our gameplan rather than being able to run in second half cause score was close.

          • Will

            Dead serious…4th and 1 and you go for it? when 3pts. was a no brainer…go in at the half 10-6….later in the game if they were down 3 instead of 6 a FG would of tied the game…FG’s are very valuable in the play offs…New Orleans made 4 of them for 12 points…If nothing else the play offs wild card weekend the games are all so close…FG’s made are very very important…

          • anon

            Game completely changed once their CB went out with the concussion, before that it was over.

      • OldDocRoss

        Yeah, I don’t think it’s a lack of willing either, it’s just that he needs to get better at recognising when pressure’s coming and get the ball out of there. There were a few plays over the course of the year where he seemed to be looking for something downfield and didn’t see the pressure until it was too late. I don’t think that’s the sort of thing the coaches would want to address during the season though (particularly when you’re dealing with a young QB in a new system) because it could lead to him overthinking things and getting jumpy. And likes you say, sacks > INTs.

        I’m sure it’s something they’ll work on heading into the new season. Nobody’s suggesting Foles is the finished article but he’s still young, has performed outstandingly well this season and based on everything we’ve seen and heard from him he’s a more than eager learner.

        • theycallmerob

          Yup. I will always take a QB who’s biggest flaws can be improved through experience, film, and coaching.

          An aside, but watching CIN is painful. Dalton makes the worst mistakes at the worst possible times (3 TOs in last 5 drives).

          • OldDocRoss

            What drives me nuts is the people who try to blow the issue out of proportion (not referring to yourself of EaglefaninAZ obviously) and act like this comes up every other time he drops back. Sack numbers on Foles were a bit higher than you’d like this year but you know how many intentional grounding penalties he had during the regular season? Two. Eli Manning had more than that in *one game* against us. Related: if Eli doesn’t win an Emmy for Best Comedy Show this year there is simply no justice.

            And, yeah, Andy Dalton. Yeesh.

          • theycallmerob

            If he had won the super bowl, they’d say trade him while his value is high.

          • Byter

            Sure its nit-picking. Foles had one of the best years EVER in the NFL. There’s not much more he can do. We’re all just Eagles fans who want to win a Super Bowl and want an HOF’er at every position who never makes a mistake. Is that too much to ask? (sarcasm)

          • Richard Colton

            nit-picking is only one of the services we provide here

          • Byter

            Ha! and the sports teams are better for it. no such thing as bad publicity, right?

    • #7

      He can’t move. That’s why he can’t throw it away. He gets trapped in the pocket and he’s toast. Sometimes you have to escape the pocket to throw it away

  • morgan c

    Looks like DJax is open for an easy 5 yards if Foles just throws it to him instead of being pot committed to the screen call. He’s open with the CB playing off. Hit him with the quick hitch / curl, and it’s 2nd and 5 or better. Sometimes you just gotta take what’s there.
    Damn.

    • cliff henny

      20/20 hindsight, but went to bed thinking why didnt they run it there and 1st thought this morning was same thing.

    • Tom w

      You have no idea what route djax was running … Can’t just hope it’s a curl … Maybe it was a post or go route… Maybe those wrs are complete decoys there like on almost all screen plays. Maybe Jackson wouldn’t have turned around in foles threw it bc he was running a deeper route. Can’t guess and say foles shoulda thrown it short there when the play wasn’t to djax and we don’t know his route.

      • theycallmerob

        ^ this. the play was fine, Foles did what he had to do. Not his or Chip’s fault that NO made a good play (though do wish Chip had called a run).

      • morgan c

        Well bro, seeing as he is looking at Foles in the second pic, I’d say he could see him pretty well. Seriously, look at the pic. Are you high?

        • theycallmerob

          dang, I wish I was

          • HowboutdemIggles

            In reality they were a 48 yard missed field goal, and a dropped 5 yard pass that changed the outcome.

    • theycallmerob

      credit where credit is due; Bunkley and Lofton stopped that play. Lofton in particular got off blocks all night.

      • GEAGLE

        Lofton really impressed me….he made an impact without being a liability In coverage

  • BrickSquadMonopoly

    The offense in the first half was pathetic we couldn’t get anything going we made the saints D look like the 49ers. O line looked like they were getting beat up all night.

    • GEAGLE

      Fans like you don’t really deserve better…

      • BrickSquadMonopoly

        True get off ur boys D bro I don’t ever talk to you lol.

    • HowboutdemIggles

      The Saints weren’t doing too much either in fact they turned the ball over, that was the type of game it was.

  • Kev_H

    I don’t think Foles is unwilling to throw the ball away. He has done it plenty. He was trying to make a play similar to his Cooper TD pass. Again I feel these criticisms are often outcome based. There is a fine line between having the patience to let the receivers get open and holding it too long and getting sacked. I have more of a problem with the “raise the white flag” 3rd down play call. I’d rather see them take a shot at moving the chains.

    • Byter

      I think experience will help make better decisions on when to throw away and when to extend a play. This play, he held it too long and admitted so.

      I’m not upset with the run play. Just trying to get close for the figgie. Every other FG kicker can make a 48 yarder…

      • GEAGLE

        You know who takes a lot of sacks? Aaron. Rogers…..much to do about nothing…inexperienced kids improve

        • anon

          He takes them b/c of a crappy o-line (and their terrible run / pass ratio), not holding the ball for 9 seconds.

          • #7

            lol

    • GEAGLE

      Criticism from people who haven’t watched the coaching tape is always kind of pointless…yet we can’t refrain from doing it

    • anon

      I think they were trying to get into field goal range w/ that third down play. Was that or punt. Foles held it for entirely too long, he was pressing just like colt anderson did on the last kickoff. He’ll learn but he took some sacks this game that really affected things. That said the offense should have been better it was pretty bad.

  • theycallmerob

    After converting the 4th, there should have just run run run. That was the only screen I saw called all game and it failed miserably. Don’t get why Kelly didn’t give Shady the rock all day in the RZ there; their D had been on the field and were clearly tired.
    I’d say he gets some blame on those calls as well.

    • anon

      Some days our o-line gets dominated and we can’t run the ball. I think we’d showed the screen so much teams were prepared for it. I don’t think that our team could beat another team without the misdirection.

    • dave H

      Kelly BETTER LEARN IMMEDIATELY that time of possession actually MATTERS in the NFL.
      ..
      im very glad our D never looked gassed and max credit to them, but you simply cannot allow your own D to play 6 extra minutes a game!
      ..
      if we would’ve had 2 more “time of possession” minutes we would’ve won the game.
      ..
      that thought too radical an idea for Kelly??

      • dave H

        hey dave H YOU MAKE A BRILLIANT POINT!!! (and I don’t think I saw any typos)
        ..ehll who want to give any playoff QB or any future HOF QB an EXTRA 6 MINUTES WITH THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        ..
        ha I’d like to play Breez & give him 6 extra minutes please .. Tom Brady would you like 6 more minutes? Mr Manning, A Rod, Colin Kap, Andrew Luck how ya feel about 6 more minutes to work your magic!!!????

    • Maggie

      Just a suggestion, but I thought Shady got up off the ground a little slowlyafter a couple of tackles in the Dallas game. Wonder if there was a lingering muscle pull or some such?

  • Will

    There’s always next year thanks Eagles for playing your hearts out in the 2013 campaign…

    • BrickSquadMonopoly

      Lame

      • theycallmerob

        ..twat

      • Will

        I talked honestly early about this drive and was banned…so lame it is….

      • Richard Colton

        dude…come on

      • #7

        So you’re going to attack one of the few good guys on these threads.

        Lame

  • GreenScabs

    Everyone gets frustrated when Nick holds on to the ball too long, and in some instances takes a very unnecessary sack. But when looking at the alternative, which is a QB who gets happy feet, or tucks the ball, or takes his eyes off of the field and starts looking at the rush defenders, or forces the ball into coverage resulting in an interception, I’ll take Nick all day long!! There is a reason he has the best TD/INT ratio in the history of the sport, and has accounted for 32 TD’s and only 4 turnovers in 11.5 games this year.

    The more comfortable he gets in the offense, and the more intuitive he gets at deciphering defenses, the more deadly this offensive attack will become. He has all the tools, is a very good decision maker, and has a great staff behind him, so I expect him to develop into upper echelon QB in this league.

    • Will

      Well put….add receiver’s who can beat man coverage and Saint Nick might not hold the ball so long…after 3 seconds it’s on Saint Nick to throw it some where…if no ones open Foles still needs to throw it away…with experience Foles will learn,,,still think Saint Nick is our QB of the future…

    • BrickSquadMonopoly

      Wishful thinking. But he is advanced for how much PT he has had which I think in great part is due to the system. Solid decision maker

      • GreenScabs

        The term “wishful thinking” insinuates that there is no real evidence for one to come to a conclusion. That evidence is presented above with the stats that he accomplished this season. You may not agree with my opinion, which is fair, but calling it “wishful thinking” without presenting any counter evidence is futile

        • theycallmerob

          dude, he’s a nihilist. doesn’t care

          • BrickSquadMonopoly

            You’re really showing your age with this one. Hilarious

          • morgan c

            How old are YOU? I’m 28 and know that movie well…?! Are you 12?

          • theycallmerob

            it’s a tremendous movie.

          • Marilyn Monbroe

            I’m 24 and it’s one of my favorite movies.

          • nicksaenz1

            Walter is, in my opinion, one of the most underrated movie characters of all time. For as a great as The Dude is, he’s not the same without Walter. Yin and Yang.

          • theycallmerob

            I want him to scatter my ashes over the Pacific

          • nicksaenz1

            You’re outta your element

          • Beastmode

            One of my fav scenes. Equalled by ” careful man there’s a beverage here”!!! When he’s gettin tossed into the cab.

    • GEAGLE

      Nick is a special Kat, In the hands of quality coaches…I’m literally expecting The best QB in the history of the eagles after another two years of seasoning

      • anon

        Haha expecting him to be the tallest midget?

    • Breezy

      I have faith Nick will be able to identify the weak points in his game and use the offseason to correct them. Coming into this season the biggest knock on Nick was his deep ball. He made marked improvement in that area, as well as others (turnovers), without regression due to neglecting to rep the strong parts of his vame. Taking sacks isn’t the worst problem to have. Losing 1-3 yards on a sack is far from the end of the world. If he could just cut out the killer 7-8 yard sacks, the sky is the limit

    • #7

      What does those numbers matter if you lose.

      • Kev_H

        8-2 in the NFL can’t be considered losing. The NFL teams that won this week (barely) were the ones unquestionably solid on both sides of the ball. Not the team’s who had QB play.

  • theycallmerob

    Anyone else watching CIN-SD? I peed a little watching them hand the ball to Ronnie Brown on 3rd&goal from the 1. As you would all expect/predict, he was tackled 3 yards behind LOS (but didn’t throw a pass)

    • Will

      stop watching Dalton should be better in his 3rd year…

      • theycallmerob

        I sure hope that was sarcasm. Likely his 3rd year going out in the playoffs 1st rd. Sure he’ll get extension though. I’ll take Foles all day.

        • Will

          me too…take Foles…

        • BlindChow

          This game was the first time Dalton actually threw a TD pass in a playoff game.

        • Will

          Dalton’s 2 picks…yikes what a shame Cinncy looked good this year…

      • Richard Colton

        Andy Dalton is ahead of his learning curve, right? After all, plenty of “Eagles Fans” on this site were willing to give Vick 12 years to figure it out.

        • Will

          no comment…too afraid they will ban me again…lol…

          • GEAGLE

            Whack

        • #7

          weak

          • anon

            They don’t like you here but they’ll miss you when you’re gone.

          • #7

            They always bring my name up

          • #7

            And not going anywhere at all. Never left

    • Byter

      I can’t remember which thread but I think it was GEAGLE who said the Eagles need more Samoans. Bengals Malalauga is proving that!

      • GEAGLE

        I’m telling you..we lack Samoans and Dreadlocks…every top defense has one of each!

        • Johnny Domino

          Isn’t that covered by the Rooney Rule?

          • Byter

            I think its the Sikahema rule.

    • Adam

      Vick should sign in Cincy, he could win the job there.

      • theycallmerob

        as if on cue, another pick from Dalton.

        • GEAGLE

          Red rifle shooting blanks…watching all these playoff turnovers really makes me respect FOles…Saints played well defensively yesterday, and they still couldn’t pick him..Just impressive

          • anon

            Agree rather be under alex smith mold than the tony romo / brett farve mold

    • Byter

      AJ Green and Riley Cooper together in infamy for 2013 playoffs.

    • Richard Colton

      Andy Dalton – another QB over whom I would rather have Foles

      • theycallmerob

        really short list of QBs I’d take over him. And most of them are sure-fire HOFers

        • Byter

          Agreed. Funny how we are always comparing Foles to the Bradys, Mannings, and Brees’s of the world.

          • nicksaenz1

            When you throw 29 TDs to 2 INTs it happens.

          • UncleCarm

            That should tell us everything we need to know. He will only get better.

        • anon

          like RGIII? haha I kid.

      • Maggie

        Hee hee.

    • #7

      Andy Dalton. Wow

    • Maggie

      They handed it to him again, later.

  • theycallmerob

    well, no worse than 22nd pick! let’s go Pack!

    • Richard Colton

      thought I just saw Ronnie Brown pause at the 1 to think about the halfback option. Now I want Andy Dalton to lead a comeback.

      • Johnny Domino

        Maybe he is heady enough to give himself up to run clock.

        Naahh…

  • anon

    At least we didnt implode like Cinci. Undefeated all year and then blown out by the chargers #letdown.

  • anon

    Watching Rodgers right now i don’t know if we can compare what he does to Foles vet vs. basically rookie, but AR has complete control and just fires bullets into tight windows all game. Our system gets people open in space and takes some brain power to understand what we’re doing and where the ball should go. But AR is next level with it.

    • Token

      Lets not do this all offseason. You 3 can go now. Vick will have a new home soon.

      • #7

        You are such a shit talker and loser. People can’t have a different view because of your weak ass

      • anon

        Calm down, this coming from a dude that’s down on 90% of the roster. People compare Foles to Bress, Manning, Brady, Rodgers on here all the time b/c of the numbers. I’m saying when you watch those guys work putting the O on their back, making plays Foles isn’t on that level yet. That said he’s basically a rookie. Hopefully, like Luck he makes big strides from first year to second year and eventually he’ll get there.

        That said — if you don’t like what I have to say, don’t respond. It’s not like you have a valid critique of my comment. Troll elsewhere.

        • #7

          He’s not capable of that

        • #7

          It’s stupid to compare Foles to Bress, Manning, Brady, Rodgers on here all the time b/c of the numbers. Those guys have a body of work. These guys try to force Foles on people and I have a problem with that. It’s crazy. Let the man prove himself instead of labeling him as “Manning” after 16 starts.

    • Maggie

      I’m watching same game and seeing Rodgers being sacked repeatedly, when not making occasional perfect passes. and I LIKE Green Bay.

      • BlindChow

        I noticed that too. He’s credited as being mobile, but in this game there were a lot of plays where he couldn’t escape the pocket when it broke down.

  • Wayne Charles

    1st and 10 at the 15, NFL PRO Coaches take a shot at the end zone. Chip was too cute running a TE screen in the red zone bad call. PERIOD. Killed our momentum with that BS call.

    • Byter

      Maybe a wrong call, but I’ve seen lots of screens inside the RZ go for TD’s.

  • #7

    Our screen game has been shut down for weeks so I’m not surprised that Chippah went away from it and that was a concern of mine regarding Foles. He needs those screens apparently and looks like he gets in a rhythm with them. Inflates his numbers a bit.

    Not all on Foles though. I do think they should have put the game on his shoulders, but it seems that is above his skill set. He played an Ok game, played within himself which is who he is as a QB

    • anon

      you are right about the rhythm and probably the numbers but lots of qbs live on those short passes. they are especially necessary when our line is getting exposed with pass rush..

      • #7

        Yeha, I get that, but folks on here have been billing Foles as a downfield passer and I thought he was being a bit safe out there IMO. Just wanted to see him take some more chances a bit, and I say this in my belief that QBs have to make a big play or two, especially in the POs. Foles played within himself, and that’s good, but in the PO’s we just saw Andrew Luck not give a F on his 28 point comeback. INTs didn’t bother him at all and he’s not afraid of turnovers

        • anon

          Agree 100%

        • HowboutdemIggles

          Although I don’t agree on that he can’t move enough to get out of the pocket. But you are right he will need to take more chances, Brees threw two picks, but from taking chances. Learning experience.

        • ztom6

          Foles is second in the league in yards in the air per attempt, as in yards per attempt less YAC. Maybe the screens do help with his rhythm, but the stats do back up the billing as a “downfield passer.” Brees is a downfield passer too… he didn’t look all that impressive on downfield throws either. Weather may have played a part.

  • PaoliBulldog

    I’d say Henery is toast. The Saints cut Garrett Hartley, who kicked the second most famous FG in franchise history, and replaced him with a journeyman who won this game for them. Plus Henery struggles to kick off deep. It was a team loss but Henery is going to pay for it.

    • anon

      Yeah he’d been f***ing us since day one. Justin Tucker hitting from 61 like it’s his job and we’re shanking 48s all season. But that was TBE from him. September is sooo far away.

    • JofreyRice

      “It’s science” are great famous last words.

  • @PhilthyBird215

    THE TEAM WITH VAST EXPERIENCE AND SEASONED COACH WON!

    For context sake, the Eagles were the better team. But, in my opinion, their inexperience did them in. In most playoff games, 2 – 3 plays are the difference in the outcome of a game. Which was true in this game.

    In hindsight, if one of the following three plays had went the Eagles way, I wholeheartedly believe Eagles would be preparing for the Panthers right now.
    play #1: The sack, Eagles were in field goal range, and 6.7 seconds had elapsed before the initial contact was made on foles. A throw a way would have done the trick. the first missed field goal by Alex did not help either (4th rd pick!)
    play #2: the Drop. Cooper had an Ocean in front of him. there was not a single Saints defensive player within 40 yards. make that catch, get a lead along with momentum.
    Play #3: the last scoring drive coupled with the special teams breakdown.
    Eagles left Brees and Coach Sean Payton (the guy whom elected to kick an onside kick in the super bowl) with perfect time (4:48) with only a 1 point lead. Not too much time where they have to get a touchdown, or not too little where Brees has to make throws.
    Payton and Brees could not have scripted it better. to get the ball back down 1 with a little less than 5 minutes left in the game. As if that wasn’t easy enough, the Eagles special teams did think it wasn’t. so, Alex (4th rd pick) said lets make it easier and short kick the kick off strait to Sproles. And in the process put our SP coverage unit in a predicament, where Williams had to horse collar tackle to prevent an even bigger return.

    This was a better than expected season. If anyone told me back in August of last year that Eagles season would end in a wildcard playoff game. I would have taken it with a smile. But, this was a game the Eagles Could have won.

    But this season was a payment of promise for things to come. And I am more excited then ever. Thank you Eagles.

  • 1PissedAmerican2

    I’m not worried about Foles. he has less than a full season as a starter under his belt. The speed of the game will slow just a bit more as he gets more experience. The good news is we can concentrate on something other than a QB in the draft.