Game Review: Eagles Offense Vs. Dallas

NFL: Philadelphia Eagles at Dallas Cowboys

Here’s a position-by-position review of the Eagles’ offensive performance against Dallas.

QUARTERBACKS


* It was a tale of two halves for Nick Foles. For most of the first half (12-for-16 for 197 yards), he was comfortable, decisive and on-target. In the second half (5-for-10 for 66 yards), the pressure seemed to affect him.

* Early on, Foles found Chris Polk on a wheel route for 34 yards. He put some extra zip on the ball, squeezing a pass in to Riley Cooper in between defenders for a 16-yard pickup. He stepped up, avoided pressure and found Zach Ertz for 17. Again in the face of pressure, he showed patience and hit Ertz for 12 yards on 3rd-and-7. Still in the first, Foles slid away from pressure and found DeSean Jackson for 20. In the second, his receivers helped him out with a couple of great catches, and Foles took advantage of a blown coverage on the 14-yard TD to Brent Celek. He beat the blitz with a 17-yard completion to Avant and was 8-for-9 overall against the blitz for 128 yards, per Pro Football Focus.

* But in the second half, the Eagles gave up some hits on Foles. We'll find out when the All-22 is released whether he was missing open receivers, but there were certainly instances where it felt like Foles was holding on to the ball too long. That was the case on one third-down play where he eventually threw it away. Later, it looked like he got some happy feet and rolled out of the pocket before completing a ball to Ertz. On another play, instead of stepping up in the pocket, Foles scrambled to his right and threw the ball away. And in the red zone, he had Jackson in the flat, but fired incomplete towards Ertz.

* Overall, it was a bit of an uneven performance, which might seem overly critical, considering he went 17-for-26 for 263 yards and a pair of touchdowns. But the offense only scored seven points after halftime. Not all of that was on Foles, but he had some issues.

RUNNING BACKS

* LeSean McCoy was a true workhorse with 27 carries for 131 yards. He was his usual self throughout, reeling off runs of 20, 16, 16, 13 and 10. On the Eagles' lone TD drive of the second half, McCoy picked up a couple 3rd-and-1s. He finishes the regular season with the NFL's rushing title and also set a franchise record, passing Wilbert Montgomery.

* Bryce Brown had runs of 5 and 6 yards (including a TD) on the Eagles' lone scoring drive of the second half. Polk had the 34-yard reception early.

* The Cowboys did their homework on the Eagles' screen game, which was non-existent Sunday night. Dallas blew up a couple screens early by just going after McCoy before he even turned to receive the ball.

WIDE RECEIVERS

* A somewhat quiet day for this group. Jackson had three catches for 28 yards, including a nice 20-yard catch and run in the first. He got the offense inside the Dallas 1, but couldn't cross the goal line. In the third, he was targeted deep down the sideline, but the play had no shot. Jackson wanted an illegal contact penalty.

* Cooper caught a 16-yard dig in the first to set up a field goal. And he had a big 19-yard grab on the TD drive in the fourth.

* Avant had one of his better games of the season with three catches for 45 yards. He made a tremendous leaping grab for 22 yards in the second. Avant was one-on-one with the safety, and Foles just threw it up for grabs. Avant was also used as a pseudo-tight end in the run game, being asked to go across the formation and block backside defenders.

* Brad Smith's pass attempt in the red zone was off-target, but he actually had Ertz open.

* Overall, Chip Kelly indicated this group had some issues getting open on the plays where Foles held the ball.

TIGHT ENDS

* Celek was fantastic with three catches for 71 yards. Really nice adjustment on the 35-yard catch where Foles put the ball up for grabs. Celek got open for a 14-yard TD on the very next play. In the third, Celek picked up 22 yards on a drag route. Really nice job as a blocker in the run game throughout.

* James Casey played 27 snaps, and on 23 of those, he was used as a run blocker (per PFF). Nice job by Casey taking out two defenders on Brown's 6-yard TD. He was charged with blocking a defensive end one-on-one in the second and gave up a sack. But overall, nice contributions.

* Ertz had a nice 17-yard grab near the sideline in the first, and he beat the safety for 12 on 3rd-and-7 later in the quarter. Ertz was open in the end zone in the third, but Smith was off-target with his throw.

OFFENSIVE LINE

* It was an up-and-down game for this group. The Cowboys were able to pressure Foles and get him out of rhythm in the second half specifically.

* Jason Peters was really good in the run game. He was crushing defenders on the Eagles' 11-play, 60-yard drive in the fourth quarter. He had a couple issues in protection. In the third, Peters gave up some pressure to DeMarcus Ware. And he was beat by Jason Hatcher on the sack/forced fumble in the third, even though Hatcher was not the first defender to get to Foles. The Eagles used quite a few unbalanced looks with Peters next to Lane Johnson.

* Evan Mathis was also very good in the run game. He got to the linebacker on McCoy's 20-yard run in the first and did a nice job on McCoy's 16-yard run in the third. In protection, Mathis had a few issues. He and Peters let Hatcher get through on a stunt in the first. Mathis gave up some pressure in the third and probably could have been called for holding. On the play where Foles chucked it up for Avant, Mathis was driven back into the quarterback.

* Jason Kelce continues to play well. I didn't notice any issues in protection, and he was excellent in the run game.

* Todd Herremans and Johnson had trouble with a stunt in the third, but otherwise Herremans played a pretty clean game. Nice job in the run game - specifically on McCoy's 7-yard run in the first and McCoy's 16-yarder in the third.

* Johnson had some issues in protection. He allowed pressure in the second, which turned into an eventual sack (even though Foles held the ball for awhile). He got beat to the inside by George Selvie on the play where Foles fumbled in the third. Johnson had a lot of good moments in the run game, but he was called for holding after getting beat on a first-half play.

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  • usmcnole

    Hopefully the protection issues dont carry into the playoffs

  • addicted2mula

    Off topic I wonder how the team sleeping habits have gotten over the season

    • Media Mike

      There was a really good article about this and sleep monitors and guys really buying into the eating / rest / workout aspects of Kelly’s system. If alcoholics like Mike Richards and Jeff Carter were on this team, they’d commit suicide.

      • nicksaenz1

        And would have spread herpes to all of the team by banging their wives.

  • Adam

    There was definitely some protection issues and Foles make some bad decisions. He missed a wide open DJax in the red zone in the 3rd quarter for sure, and held on to the ball a bit too long on some plays but we’ll need to see if that was on him or the receivers.

    in the 2nd half but I don’t think you can just look at the box score and Foles’ stats to paint a complete picture. He didn’t have many yards but had some key completions to Cooper and Avant to on the final TD drive to keep the chains and the clock moving. Aside from those completions and the completely BS missed call when Foles slid, we ran the ball for the entire 4th quarter so that skews the stats a bit as well.

    • IHD

      Foles looked unsettled in the pocket from the first quarter, very disappointing and alarming.

      • Adam

        I don’t feel this is an entirely accurate assessment.

        Foles didn’t miss a pass on the initial drive except for two times when he had to throw it at the ground when the Cowboys sniffed out the screen.

        2nd quarter took his first sack was a coverage sack, which they shown on the replay. On their third drive Foles threw a pass where Avant was blown up before the ball was even there, should have been flagged. Final drive was only 2 plays but was executed perfectly between Foles.

        3rd quarter your assessment is more accurate. Initial drive, Foles sacked by a free blitzer that wasn’t picked up by Peters. 3rd down he had pressure coming on the edge and up the middle. Threw it away instead of taking the sack. Sack/fumble was most likely on Foles as he held the ball for a long time but I couldn’t see coverage. On the last drive he missed DJax, but hit him on the next play which he should have scored. QB sneak was just dumb play calling after the TO.

        4th quarter we ran the ball.

        What was much more alarming, to me at least, was the pass rush being generated by a weak unit against a unit that was normally our strength. I’m thinking it’s an anomaly though.

        • Media Mike

          Monty or Rod must know something about our blocking calls. There is not a physical reason we couldn’t pass block Dallas twice.

          • aub32

            Actually we did a pretty good job blocking them the first time. The QB had plenty of time.

        • IHD

          I’ll have to watch the first quarter again. I remember thinking that his feet never looked set on his drops.

          • Adam

            I’m thinking you might be thinking of the few screens we tried. Cowboys played them perfectly.

      • #7

        After the first quarter. Looked great in the first

  • BlockingBack

    What was the flag thrown for that didn’t count when Dallas called time out at 4th & goal before the unsuccessful sneak?
    I’d like to see Michael Vick run the Brad Smith play. Dangerous to do before the 4th qtr without a 3rd QB. If nothing else, the threat could force the opposition D to burn a timeout.

    • Adam

      I think Chip likes to do it because Smith can line up as a receiver as well, so you can do different things out of that personnel group rather than putting in Vick and basically telegraphing what you’re going to do. Plus the D can’t sub out players. Obviously didn’t/hasn’t worked well but I think that’s his thought process.

    • Adam

      and I think the penalty was for encroachment. One of their d-linemen was lined up in the neutral zone. Smart timeout for Dallas, would have been automatic first down.

      • Ron Swanson

        Wouldn’t have been a first down for encroachment, just half the distance closer.

        • Adam

          Good call

  • Van Buren

    TO ALL EAGLES FANS: WHAT DO WE DO?….
    We all must ask ourselves and Coach Kelly but one question. Moving forward is Nick Foles the QB for us? As much as well all love Nick, and as great as his performance has been this year, he is not the right QB for Chip’s system? Multiple times last night I saw the pocket collapse, and NIck complete inability to escape even just the box. The man just cannot move.
    And who is to say that this performance level will transfer to future seasons, my bet is it doesn’t. What about a trade. To Clevland, Houston, JAX. SELL HIGH on him, get a a high first rd. pick. get somebody like Johnny Football, Bridgewater, Bortles. SOMEBODY WHO CAN MOVE! And then go defense the rest of the way. Imagine this offense with a QB that’s got some legs.
    Of course, if the BIrds make a run in the playoffs and Nick can come up big in clutch situations (win 1 or 2 games) the answer is easy. Keep him. But I think it is a question worth asking. What could we look like with a mobile QB? Would it be even better than what we see now? Is this even a possibility? Am I being completely cynical and selfish?
    Just food for thought. GO DAMN BIRDS!

    • Jason

      Good luck with this group. Geagle might have a coronary

    • BrickSquadMonopoly

      A QB with legs is only a bonus and that’s regardless of system. You need a good thrower first and Nick has shown good anticipation and eye manipulation and his game is refining quickly where most running QBs probably wont. I still think we should bring in competition.

      • Media Mike

        Competition, no. A better backup than Barkley, absolutely. Foles and Barkley combined make peanuts. A really strong Veteran backup is totally the way to go. You don’t open a competition on a guy who just completed the 3rd best passing season in the history of the league, but you do hedge you bets with a solid vet who can come in and take over if a 3rd year guy has any issues.

    • jackpotsdad

      Are you trolling? We won the goddamn game!

      Don’t act like Chicken Little. The sky isn’t falling and the idea we would even consider a trade at this point is *ABSURD*! Foles is in his second year – he hasn’t even reached his ceiling and you’re spouting this utter nonsense of “sell high”. Ridiculous!

      You’re not being cynical and selfish, just incredibly reactionary and dumb.

      • Van Buren

        Reactionary to me would be thinking we got the next Brady cuz the kid had a good year, closer to ignorant. While I love what he has done, RG3 shat the year up after looking great last year. Im just not sold on him doing anything close to this level long term. Did anything he do last year in his 6 or 7 starts make you believe this? He looked average at best now everybody wants to put him in the Hall of Fame. Get over it. Wait til there is a little more tape out on him. He is a product of the system and we could get way more out of a player more fit for it.

        • nicksaenz1

          Actually, he IS in the HOF.

        • wpnx20

          Van Buren, I think your comments are better suited to the philly.com Eagles message boards. Please return to those boards and leave the thoughtful posts to others. Thanks.

          • theedevilsadvocate

            yes the pro vick anti foles racism crowd loves to hang out there.

        • disqus_SAwg5u9Dxh

          Yes, his 6 or 7 starts last year as A ROOKIE, thrown into a BAD TEAM THAT QUIT, were very promising. Or are you just looking at the record and automatically thinking he cant play without actually watching the game? You do know QB isnthe toughest position in the game, and TAKES TIME TO BECOME ELITE at, right? Do you actually know that?

        • Adam

          Maybe it’s because you’re used to watching Vick, but some players actually get better as their careers go on. Crazy right?

        • Kev_H

          Go back and look at those line ups Foles was playing with in 2012. Then consider the backbreaking fumbles by Brown in two games and the dropped game tying TD pass by that tight end off the street. I absolutely expected to. Win with Foles based on what he did in 2012. I was down when he wasn’t starting and bidding on Super Bowl futures tickets when he took over. I am surprised his passer rating is over 105 and that he has fewer than 6 INTs, but the kid can play and win in the NFL and will only get better.

    • mtn_green

      Lets trade the QB with the third highest rating EVER for an unknown college kid.

      So…27 Tds and 2 ints, not good enough for you.

      Watch the tape or the first play, 4 guys sit tight waiting for Foles while McCoy scampers 20 yards. Speed doesn’t matter.

      Speed won’t make up for what Foles has.

      • Van Buren

        That’s all great but the fact that we are still running designed QB runs with this guy suggests that Chip has a lot of extra folds for this offense that we cant even touch cuz fleet of foot Nick cant get across the line of scrimmage, even when nobody thinks he might run. Speed doesn’t matter, UNLESS YOUR CHIP KELLY! Speed is everything in this system from offensive line to yes even the QB. Don’t mind the fact, while smart, that he throws the ball into ground every other set of downs cuz he cant even escape the rush what so ever. Nevermind throwing on the run, he doesn’t know how to even run

        • bentheimmigrant

          Designed qb runs?? When?

          • nicksaenz1

            You know, that QB sneak where there wasn’t a clean exchange. No other good QB has ever failed in that situation…

          • bentheimmigrant

            Yeah. If he was a real runner he would have made it.

        • Dan

          He can’t throw on the run? I seem to remember a play in the Bears game where he was on the run and connected with Cooper for a TD. That’s just off the top of my head. He makes throws on the run routinely!

          • Kev_H

            His numbers on the run were insane in college and this year. Foles is deadly accurate outside of the pocket.

          • Adam

            48 for 49 on the run.

          • Andy124

            Is this for real?

          • Adam

          • Andy124

            I can’t see that.

          • Adam

            Clip of Dilfer talking about Foles. That’s where I got the stat I posted above on Foles rolling out in college.

          • Andy124

            Cool. I’ll make sure to watch it tonight. Thanks for the summary.

          • theycallmerob

            thanks for the link

          • Richard Colton

            I don’t want to pile on, mostly because you guys have already destroyed him. Just an observation – what kind of a name is Van Buren?

          • Andy124

            Great Eagles running back from the 40′s Steve Van Buren. Or the code name given to Fallout 3 when it was in development.

          • Richard Colton

            All true – it’s also a DUTCH name. just pointing it out.

          • Andy124

            How could I be so obtuse?

          • Richard Colton

            I’m grasping at straws now – if I was so wrong about Foles, and so arrogant and obnoxious, I might disappear and change my name too. Have to respect #7 for sticking around, unless he thinks we forgot everything he said.

          • Andy124

            Not saying Van Buren is Dutch, but very sharp seeeing the similarity in the names. Credit Due.

          • Joe from Easton

            I was thinking of Dutch too. This guy is close, but no cigar. <—- you see what I did there? haha

        • #7

          You have to learn that NO ONE can say anything about Foles without it being a glowing review. There were several times during that game where I just wanted him to escape the pocket just to throw the ball away. He couldn’t get out of the box and a few times there were no hands on him.

          Foles stood tough in the pocket, but unless you’re Peyton Manning, hard to be a statue in this league. No one gets it out faster than him. If it weren’t for McCoy, we wouldn’t be in the playoffs, period. Foles should buy McCoy anything he wants because if the game had to go on Foles shoulders we would have gotten beat

          • Kev_H

            I guess there is the difference in expectations. I think it is good for a coherent offense if the QB sticks with the play as long as possible. Even if it doesn’t work that play, it gives guys more incentive to run thorough patterns or fight to hold their blocks. Just taking it on oneself to break off the play is sort of an unspoken put down of the rest of the guys. In any case, I recall the Eagles facing the greatest running QB ever (by far) in the 2004 Conference championship game and it seemed like they had an easy time of it.

          • #7

            The better team won. Period

          • Andy124

            You have to learn that NO ONE can say anything about Foles without it being a glowing review.

            Back to NO ONE? Remember when we got you to switch it to ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE? Now we’re back to NO ONE?

          • theycallmerob

            hahaha, i see you can’t help but feed them either.

          • Andy124

            I don’t want to starve this one.

          • #7

            Well it might as well be no one. You Folesies surely do not. You make excuses for him instead of calling it what it really is

          • Adam

            lmao Folesies. You mean fans of our teams starting QB?

            Third highest QB rating in NFL history
            Best TD to INT ratio in NFL history
            Franchise record for completion percentage

            Oh and he’s only in his 2nd year. Get used to the Franchise.

          • #7

            We’ll see in 2014 when these DCs watch tape on him.

            “You mean fans of our teams starting QB?”

            Why couldn’t you support Vick when he (dominated) won the job instead of wanting the job HANDED to FOles without earning the job? What kind of fan wants jobs, QB jobs at that, HANDED to them? Chip was 100% right to make it a QB comp. It made them both better QBs IMO. Kudos to Foles. He’s doing his part and he really stood tough in the pocket in the 1st qtr until he started getting happy feet the rest of the game.

            Thank God for our TRUE best player, #25. All you guys (Folesies) talk about is Foles, when it was McCoy who led us there and that would have been the case with Vick at QB. McCoy and some D has to take us to the promised. We CANNOT put the game on Foles shoulders. Those shoulders would WILT and he’s not built for that. Not a critique either before you and your cronies come out with your knives and pitchforks

          • Andy124

            Not a critique either

            Got that part right.
            critique: a detailed analysis and assessment of something, esp. a literary, philosophical, or political theory

          • Adam

            This whole post right here, this is why it’s impossible for you to deny you’re not an actual Eagles fan. You’re a Vick fan boy and nothing else, and you’re going out of your way to discredit a record breaking season by a young QB with talent and promise. Any rational and normal fan of this team would be excited. Instead you’re just bitter and butt hurt that it’s not your boy Vick.

          • #7

            Discredit????

            I’ve said numerous times that Foles has played well!!!!

            WTF are you talking about??? WOW

          • theycallmerob

            who cares about the summer? go play in shorts.
            real men play with pads on

          • #7

            Yeah I remember that lol. Foles was awesome in shorts, even according to Shiel at that time, but Foles got beat. Just a fact. Doesn’t really matter now..

            Foles is doing his job

          • EaglePete

            didnt you know, you need tons of excuses for those stats and all the Ws. Only in the mind of Vick fans do excuses become the concern. Vick is the king of inconsistency and RGMV2 is right on his heels.

          • #7

            You know what I recall morgan c? I recall seeing Vick lift up a putrid franchise that was the Falcons and carry the city on his back with that “inconsistency” you speak of.

            He won games. Won more than he lost. So what he didn’t win the SB. I’ve learned to let that go regarding players. That doesn’t mean that they were not great players.

          • Adam

            Absolutely no Eagles fans gives a damn what Mike Vick did for Atlanta.

          • #7

            Responding to posts Folsie

          • theycallmerob

            without Foles, we wouldn’t be either

          • #7

            That’s 100% BS

          • theycallmerob

            not really. cause he played. and we’re in.
            anything else is conjecture. that’s how the world works- stats, facts, logic, reason, and then whatever you say.

          • #7

            Didn’t you want Bridgewater?

          • theycallmerob

            as I said, moving goalpost. you just can’t argue or reason to save your life. when did i start talking about draft? what does the likely #1 pick have to do with anything?

            and if you’re going to re-hash what I may or may not have said in Training camp when our QB was still Capt. Injury, I guess you missed out on a great season. ’cause whether you like it or not, this team has a QB now.

          • #7

            Oh…you said it alright. It’s easy for you to be “forgetful” now lol.

            Understood.

            The true definition of a flip flopper

          • Adam

            Not surprising in the least that you think you should continue to stand by something even when you’re wrong. Normal, rational people change their opinion when presented with new information and facts. But that’s a bit above your head I guess.

          • #7

            And which college QB did you want Adam? Let’s hear it lol

          • Adam

            Not sure who I want to take Vick’s roster spot just yet, need to watch some film

          • #7

            Ha! You better hope so! I was against Vick coming back here as a backup, but I’m starting to feel better about it. If Foles struggles next year, I wouldn’t be surprised. DCs catch up with every player, and surely they can Foles. If he can’t run 5yds to throw the ball away, it should be pretty easy.

            I’ll say this, I HOPE that Foles can play well!!!! Do I believe that he can keep doing this? NO!

            Not a knock, just an opinion and i could be wrong sir. It’s just unfortunate that you can only debate with people that have your ideals in common with you and cannot take an opinion that is different.

          • Adam

            Vick will be riding the pine somewhere else next year. Can’t 5 yards to throw away the ball? Is that all you’ve got left for an excuse? Foles season this year has been better than any Vick has played, and he’s only in his 2nd year. Unlike Vick, Foles will actually get BETTER as he continues to grow and half a full off season as the starter.

            The definition of a debate is when two people have different opinions. I can easily debate with someone who has a different opinion. I can’t debate with morons. You’re a moron.

          • #7

            That makes us both morons. All good

          • Joe from Easton

            If you could come up with a better reason than “he can’t run” then maybe other people will debate opinions with you. As it stands, most people just think yours is biased, ignorant, or a combination of the two and therefore they continually tell you that you are wrong.

          • #7

            Again, you missed the point. No one is calling for Foles to be a runner. We say, run 5 yards to escape the pocket to throw the ball away instead of just standing there and no one is touching him.

            You people just get pissed if a person is the slightest but critical of Foles. Did you miss where he just stood there holding the ball even though everyone was covered? Did you watch a different game?

          • Joe from Easton

            I didn’t miss it. You must have missed my point in saying that I couldn’t care less about a guy taking a sack as a last resort. He doesn’t put the ball in harms way when no one is open. That includes running and potentially getting stripped. I like Foles for his decision making. Sometimes a QB needs to decide to take a sack. I’m not mad about someone being critical, but when it’s the same stupid criticism that also happens to be a bit of a dog whistle, it get’s pretty old.

          • #7

            Look at you. Scared. Scared to admit which QB you wanted to draft because you thought Foles couldn’t get the job done lol. You and a lot of people on here thought Foles sucked, including myself. I man up about mine and I’ve been consistent on my opinions. Not flip flopping like 80% of you on here…..acting like you knew all along that Foles would throw 2 INTs.

            Believe it or not, I think Foles can play and I’ve said as much even though it’s not accepted on here. I just don’t think he’s as good as you people are trying to force down people’s throats

          • Adam

            I’ve never flip flopped my opinion. My opinion was and always will be that starting Vick was a mistake this season and that we should go with the younger QB’s to see what we have and if we need to draft a QB. I was right. We’ve learned this season that Vick wasn’t the answer, neither was Barkley, and that Foles is.

            I don’t make draft predictions until after Bowl season like any half educated football fan would do. So you stuck with Vick the whole time? Well congrats on being wrong. Not being able to change your opinion on a football player as he gets better or worse over time is why you’re still in love with a career .500 bad QB who was fun to watch run around a few years ago. Things changes, learn to deal with it or have fun watching Vick in Oakland or Jacksonville next year.

          • #7

            Foles did his job and played well when he had his opportunity. That’s what he was supposed to do. It ain’t hard to see.

            Would we be in this same position or better with Vick? Absolutely. Would McCoy have close to 2000 yards rushing with Vick under center. Absolutely.

            But hey, Foles is doing it and I’m glad we’re winning. That is the bottom line, yet you always want to troll me constantly when someone speaks some truth about the QB you never wanted in the first place.

            He can’t just stand there and hold the ball and take sacks….and fumble. What is it, 5yds to get out of the pocket to throw it away? Cmon man. That is a fact, not a critique, but you only accept truth from your fellow Folesies.

          • theycallmerob

            Would we be in this same position or better with Vick? Absolutely.
            Would McCoy have close to 2000 yards rushing with Vick under center.
            Absolutely.

            NO. it does not work like that because you want it to.

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          • #7

            zzzzz

          • theycallmerob

            well, can’t say we didn’t try. a true american, you are.
            from now on it’s just foles pics for your dumb ass.

          • Richard Colton

            Who downvoted the Foles’ train? It’s almost like someone wants it to crash.

          • Andy124

            LOL

          • Adam

            There’s nothing factual about stuff you make up. This is probably the dumbest thing I’ve read in awhile. Kudos.

          • #7

            Of course. Only the Folesies’ opinions are factual. Got it

          • Adam

            OPINiONS. AREN’T. FACTS. Are you honestly this stupid?

          • #7

            Are you? You moustache is so white and caked over that you wouldn’t know a fact from an opinion at this point

          • Joe from Easton

            An opinion is we’d be better as a single read and mainly one dimensional offense with Vick at the helm. A fact is that we are one of the most balanced offense in the history of the NFL considering no team has ever put up 2,400 yards rushing and 4,000 yards passing in a single season except for the Eagles.

          • Joe from Easton

            I’m sorry, the 1998 49′ers did it too. Vick ain’t Steve Young. FACT.

          • #7

            No one is. Only Steve Young is Steve Young.

          • Joe from Easton

            Good answer.

          • #7

            It ain’t hard…

          • theycallmerob

            here comes the chin talk

          • Adam

            There’s definitely something he’s not telling us. Loves mens chins way too much.

          • #7

            LOL you don’t see me slobbing anything. All of your ten paragraph posts about Foles. Just gushing man lol. Foles can’t no wrong to you and you want to talk about “chin talk” lmao.

            Cmon man

          • Adam

            No, no one here wants to talk about chin talk. You’re the only one that brings it out.

          • #7

            Someone has to call it like it is…might as well be me. I’m not with the “The Great Nick Foles” and all the other crap you say on here. Sorry. A couple of weeks doesn’t make a QB for me.

            Look at RG3. These DCs in the NFL are smart and are in the NFL for a reason. Hoping that Foles can continue his success, but I have to say that I don’t think it can be sustained. INTs will go up and TDs down next year, guaranteed. He’s played well, but wow…he’s had some good bounces in his favor and that what every player would want to happen for them I would imagine.

            I just get tired of seeing so much green grass left on the field every game and taking so many sacks because he can’t move. It’s frustrating

          • Adam

            RG3 is a great example. Running QB’s can’t stay healthy and are easily figured out. Thanks for making this easy.

          • #7

            RG3 was billed as a pocket passer sir who could run….

          • Adam

            Uh, no. He was billed as a running QB with a big arm and accuracy issues. Which is exactly what he is.

          • #7

            What? Making ish up again lol. RG3 was not billed as a running QB. And you try to call people stupid? Accuracy issues? Wrong again. That was supposed to be his ultimate asset and it was in his first year. I can’t stand rg3, but you are way off, as usual

          • Joe from Easton

            RGIII was billed as MV7 with better pocket presence and as a “run second” kind of guy. Turns out the bill was wrong.

          • #7

            Tell your boy Adam to get his facts straight since he acts like he’s an expert on here

          • Joe from Easton

            I never said accuracy was part of the bill. Pocket presence and throw first don’t equate to accuracy. RGIII was supposed to be calmer in the pocket and better at going through progressions than Vick because of the offense he played in during his collegiate career. It turns out, so far, that he’s eerily similar to his predecessor. Freak athlete, cannon arm, one read, run, hurt. I don’t feel like finding out if Manziel or whoever the flavor of the month is can adapt to the NFL better than Vick did, or RGIII. Simply put, in the fantasy land that is my brain (where I’m the GM of a franchise), I don’t want a QB who’s mobility is anything more than an afterthought in his scouting report. Andrew Luck is huge and fast, but he’s a quarterback. His speed is a plus. RGIII is another running back with an arm.

          • Adam

            Please find me a reputable scouting report that says RG3′s accuracy was his ultimate asset. I’ll wait here.

          • EaglePete

            of course in a full season hes going to have a few more picks etc. Scheming against a pocket passer vs a running QB, you figure out which one is easier, history tells us along with injury history.

          • theycallmerob

            Yes, look at RG3. Know why he’s strugglng? ’cause when you hurt a runner and make him doubtful, he can’t fall back on his passing game. like a real QB.
            sound familiar?

          • Joe from Easton

            You know what’s crazy about teams with 2,000 plus rushing yards in a season, specifically a 2,000 yard rusher like you’re calling for? They usually never pass for above 3,000 yards. Check the stats… the eagles are the only team EVER to have over 2,400 yards in a season and still pass for over 4,000. With Vick shady might have had 1,800, but we wouldn’t have had the 27 passing TD’s that Foles cranked out of the last 10 games. In today’s NFL, I’ll take that.

          • theycallmerob

            yet you always want to troll me constantly when someone speaks some truth about the QB

            you damn truthseeker.

            go ahead and guess who has a lower career completion % than Jeff Blake, Vinny Testaverde, and Kyle Boller.
            guess who has a career QB rating of 80. In 100+ starts.
            guess who has a career TD:INT ratio of 128:85? 1.5 TD for every 1 INT. gross.
            guess who has 91 career fumbles. Can’t just stand there and take sacks…and fumble.
            guess who has a career record of 58-48-1
            guess who started 16 games one time out of 10.

          • Joe from Easton

            David Carr?

          • theycallmerob

            …close, but i think his stats are better

          • #7

            And what do you know, all of those QBs are out of the league yet Vick is stil standing…went to prison..and outlasted those guys you mentioned lol.

            What a freakin joke man. PLEASE skip me Rob. I’m begging you

          • Adam

            Still standing. On the sideline. Watching the Nick Foles show enter the playoffs.

          • #7

            Sure is. We’ll see if you’re still wishing for injury if he has to come in and save the Eagles.

            One snap away..as Chip always says

          • theycallmerob

            jon kitna is still in the league too. guess he’s real gooder.

          • theycallmerob

            hahahaha Kitna’s completion % is even better than Vick! thanks for the laughs today 7. Just when I got worried about Drew Brees, I remember we have a QB now who won’t get hurt or turn the ball over at the worst time.

          • #7

            You missed the 18-15 as a starter part.

            You damn sure do not miss a stat on Vick though lol. Typical Rob. Vick is on your brain everyday

          • theycallmerob

            you brought him up, homey g willicker. Use your scroll button. He makes a helluva cheerleader, though.

            this pic is Foles saying “Hey mike, I’m thirsty…help me out after I score this TD real quick?”

          • Andy124

            Fantastic!

          • #7

            Van Buren sir

          • #7

            Let’s see Foles put the team on his back. That’s what big time QBs do.

            Vick has been there and done that.

            You always come with you stupid ass stats. Well why don’t you take a look at Elway’s stats or Namath’s stats. Who cares??? Winning is what counts, and the WL you posted says that he won more than he lost. When did that become a bad stat lol.

            Too bad you can never ask an actual NFL defender who they hate to face the most. I can tell you this much, it ain’t Foles. i can guarantee that. Now I didn’t come on here bashing Foles man. Just skip me. I ask you this EVERY WEEK yet you just can’t resist lol. My posts obviously touch a nerve with you and have truth to them or you wouldn’t RESPOND lol. If what I say is so off based, why do you waste your time?

            Because you know they’re NOT and you lie to make yourself feel better by “trying” to prove me wrong and you fail miserably everytime

          • theycallmerob

            has he won a ring? then no, he hasn’t.

          • theycallmerob

            forgot your pic:

          • theycallmerob

          • BlindChow

            I heard they had a football surgically implanted in the womb, so Foles could get some extra practice in.

          • theycallmerob

            no wonder, he needed to be spending those formative months “kicking”, as most babies do. explains the poor foot speed.

          • #7

            Lot of QBs haven’t…Marino to name one. Doesn’t mean that the player wasn’t great.

            I thought you would know something as simple as that, yet you can throw out a million stats lol

          • theycallmerob

            ha.
            no, Marino has not. but know what makes him great? …his stats. ’cause people be like “daaaamn”.
            Vick? no ring. mediocre stats. madden legend.

          • #7

            Don’t forget the carrying a franchise part…

          • #7

            Can Vick say he’s the greatest of all time at something rob?

            Yep.

            Not many QBs can do that…

            Can you say you’re the greatest of all time at something? Nope

          • Joe from Easton

            I say rob is the greatest of all time at posting Foles pics.

          • #7

            He’s good at a lot of stuff regarding Foles

          • #7

            Can Foles put the team on his back.

            Yes or no.

          • theycallmerob

            who knows?
            but Vick sure can’t

          • #7

            Been there and done that sir.

          • Adam

            His back is still sore from carrying his teams to a whole 2 playoff wins. Probably why he’s always injured.

          • #7

            Let’s see how many Foles gets

          • #7

            Those Falcon teams were not great by any means…..

            That’s called carrying a team in my book

          • Andy124

            And I already showed you how the defense carried those teams to their playoff wins. Vick was along for the ride. The won despite of him, not because of him.

          • theycallmerob

            no he hasn’t. empty ring finger.
            here’s a thread where we, as fans, engage in talk about the team. you should come. stop just cheerleading on select threads for your backup.

            http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2013/12/31/record-setting-birds/

          • Richard Colton

            Next time someone accuses you of a “moving goalpost” argument – this is what they mean. Foles exceeded every statistical goal and expectation you set for him. Every single one. Now it’s “can he put the team on his back?”

          • Van Buren

            Well that is more than a valid question for a NFL QB. Do you want that first ring? Or maybe a couple more NFC championship busts.

          • Richard Colton

            Dude. You just showed up and suggested trading Foles so you can draft Blake Bortles. So pardon me if I don’t take you seriously.

          • EaglePete

            you cant be serious with this Vick talk, my goodness. Its fine to criticize Foles, it really is. its just a tad nitpicky considering his age and first season, yet not even a full season and how impressive hes been. Nobody is saying dont criticize, it will just get a logical response and some justification in most cases because the team is winning. To pretend that Vick is still a possible better option is just comical at this point so you are getting reamed and rightfully so. This from a city thats endured Randall, then McNabb, then Vick with 0 Lombardis. Foles is change of pace really. I think a dink n dunk that can extend at times with a solid scheme like CKs will be far more consistent than a flashy big play once in a while QB, I really dont think you can argue that those QBs tend to win more consistently.

          • Adam

            Morgan, you’re wasting your time if you’re attempting a reasonable approach. He’s beyond reason.

          • theycallmerob

            you’re right, he can’t argue it. but he sure will pout and deny it

          • #7

            “its just a tad nitpicky considering his age and first season”

            Talk to Van Buren. I responded to his post. I’ve said 10 times already that Foles has played well. What more do you want.

            People bring the Vick talk to me. I go out of my way to not mention his name

          • Richard Colton

            really weird because you’ve never brought up Vick before

          • Van Buren

            Nobody is arguing Vick is the answer. But there are most definitely better options out there than Foles. And once he comes back down to Earth, this discussion wont seem so stupid

          • Richard Colton

            Glad that you realize it’s stupid right now

          • theycallmerob

            If what I say is so off based, why do you waste your time?

            I spend my entire day telling dumb children who don’t want to listen things that they need to hear. And then I show up again and do it the next day. It’s in my nature to help guide poor, misinformed souls towards the light.

          • #7

            LOL well you need to be fired. You’re doing a terrible job. This so called “fake fan” lable you try to roll with hasn’t worked yet. try something else

          • theycallmerob

            nah, I’m way better at my job when I can take the kid around a corner and whack ‘em. You’re lucky you can hide behind a screen with frosting on your chin, down in ATL.

          • #7

            Your avatar says it all. White as snow

          • theedevilsadvocate

            your full of bs buddy and you know it you were wrong about foles and you cant man up and admitt it thats it period son. 27 td and only 2 ints and it was all mccoy huh your hatred for him only comes from being wrong about your assesment of the qb. its ok to be wrong homie… deal with it.

          • #7

            Ah….. you just knew that Foles would have two ints. Yeah Ok. I doubt that. And no one is saying that Vick should start, rookie.

          • morgan c

            Dude it’s called football. It’s a team sport. Sometimes the RB must carry the load, sometimes the QB, sometimes the D, etc. 17/26 for 263, 2 TDs, 0 INTs. Made a couple HUGE throws on our final scoring drive. We won the game as a team. Foles wasn’t perfect, but in adverse conditions with an Oline that was faltering in protection, he fucking stepped up and got the job done. Period. You act like he was 11/25 for under 2 bills and 0 TDs and constant mistakes.

          • #7

            Read the posts. Only thing I said was that he was holding the ball too long and taking sacks when he could run 5 yards out of the pocket to throw it away.

            That is hardly harsh. Is that harsh? If it is, I apologize sir

        • dave H

          I was thinking more that Fat Andy loved speed more than Chip and he turned over his Defense over and ver trying to find ‘speedy, high motor’ guys on D ..but they wouldn’t ever tackle! I see this team LOVING to hit! I still get fired up seeing good hits despite letting up yardage along the way.
          ..
          Agreed that our man Foles needs to work on a better scrambling plan – but he has some nice runs & ill be he can figure some better scrambling plans for the future.
          ..
          I bet Lurie pays him a fat extension before he lets him walk (I hope so also! WAY TO GO NICK ..from fools gold to FOLES GOLD!)

        • Joe from Easton

          Dude, nobody in Philadelphia wants a guy that is a runner, period. We’ve seen enough of QB’s who don’t read progressions and just play backyard ball. It’s fun sometimes, but we want a guy that stands in the pocket and delivers. We’ve seen those guys win rings all around us for years. If we’re all wrong about Foles, then we’ll feel that pain when the time is right, but right now we don’t appear to be. He’s barely a second year player and just posted the third highest rating ever, most TD’s in a single game ever, and also most adj yds / attempt ever. That’s only the tip of his 2013 iceberg of accomplishments that are far beyond his years. No one here is going to be woo’d by the “potential” of a runner. Take that trolling elsewhere.

          • #7

            His point was never about a “running QB” lol. That’s what I mean, you people take words and flip them to how you want them.

            He’s saying that he needs to be able to escape the pocket to get rid of the ball if WRs are covered. Nothing wrong with that

          • Joe from Easton

            “Speed is everything in this system from offensive line to yes even the QB. Don’t mind the fact, while smart, that he throws the ball into ground every other set of downs cuz he cant even escape the rush what so ever. Nevermind throwing on the run, he doesn’t know how to even run”

            Sounds to me like he’s looking for a running, or dual-threat, QB. We don’t want one.

          • Van Buren

            How about a guy that can escape the pocket and not have to throw the ball into the ground and wonder if its a intentional grounding

          • EaglePete

            I see you conveniently ignored the stats below about his throws outside the pocket. Foles is really good at that, was not vs Cowboys but one game does not make a QB. Also, in replays guys were covered. Ill take the potential grounding call over injury and mistakes trying to do too much. Look no further than Ortons picks vs Foles 0 Ints. Difference in game.

          • Joe from Easton

            I couldn’t care less about a guy who takes a sack as a last resort over heaving an ill advised pass to a defender. I’ll stick the the guy who has the third highest QBR, meaningless as it is to you, in NFL history. Look at the guys around him on that list by the way… Most of them weren’t/aren’t exactly fleet of foot either. Chip has said many times he doesn’t need a mobile QB, he needs a smart one that makes good decisions. Guys that do those things in the NFL under duress do not grow on Trees. You surely don’t move on from one who appears to have those attributes because your chasing the greener grass on the other side. You obviously understand what you’re asking for. Most of us just clearly disagree and we’re pretty thankful that our Owner, GM, and Head Coach do too. Maybe when Cleveland calls you up to look for their new HC you can go look for the next Vick.

          • Richard Colton

            Why bother? He’s clueless. Stat Geeks invent “passer rating” because the old statistical measures for judging QBs (yards, TDs, completion %) didn’t allow for comparison between West Coast offense and traditional offenses. Then QBR comes along – an even better measure. None of that is good enough for these people. By ANY measure, Foles had a great season; unless you’re using the “he doesn’t look like Mike Vick ‘eye test’”

            Guy finishes with the best passer rating in franchise history and the best TD/Int ratio in league history – and he wants Johnny Football.

          • Joe from Easton

            Yea, you’re probably right. Some people wouldn’t know a good QB if he punched them in the face.

          • #7

            THey don’t like that word “truth”on here as you’re finding out.

          • #7

            “We” lol.

          • Van Buren

            Exactly, you guys are being blinded by a fake QBR statistic that really means nothing. All I am saying is it is something to think about. The guy might be one of the most immobile QB in the league and he just is not right for what I think Chip would like to do. In no way am I saying he is a bad QB. I just would be interested to see what Chip could do with a guy of his own

          • EaglePete

            fans enamored with flashy plays have a really hard time accepting the part about “guys win rings that stand in pocket and deliver.” All of this while the pocket guy puts up great numbers and oh ya, wins games. It will never be predicated on an option run scheme regardless. If you think thats what wins more in CK scheme you havent been paying attention.

          • Joe from Easton

            I just don’t get the fixation with the dual-threat QB. The proof is in the pudding people. How many of these QB’s have ever done anything more than wow people here or there with some plays or a few good games in a row. Cam won his division this year, awesome. Vick won the East a few years ago, great. RGIII won it last year, spectacular. Meanwhile, both Mannings, Brady, Rodgers, Flacco, and Roesthlisberger have been “staying in the pocket too long” and winning Superbowls for the past decade. If Foles falls on his face then so be it, but I’ll take my damn chances with the mold that wins over the mold that excites.

        • BirdGang

          I agree with everything you said man. I do think we can find a QB that fits Chip’s system better. But as of right now…I could care less. Foles has gotten us this far…so lets hold off on that topic until after the season. One thing i have loved is not hearing is who should be starting for the eagles.

          • theedevilsadvocate

            for real yo u aint lying audrina, #7, a big butt and a smile, allworld2, zeru, and the rest which all might be the same damn person need to give it up and enjoy what is happening but since they hate the fact they have been wrong about foles, you know like are run game will suffer with out vick but you know shady won the rushing title and broke records. its just people hate to be wrong so they hate the kid instead of supporting him…

        • theedevilsadvocate

          audrina, big butt and a smile, or allworld2, zeru, or any other nutcase on either one of these sites this is definitely u all day hating that a white boy is leading your team into the playoffs and had done amazingly great this season despite your thoughts on what you thought would happen and on who is the best qb for the job… it sucks being wrong huh. like i said oh so long ago i hope he wins it all and proves all you haters wrong. we ready to start calling philly fans racist again? all for wanting change for wanting a pocket passer that doesnt turnover the ball. for wanting a winner. im sure its coming…

      • #7

        You people were calling for an uknown college kid!!!

        Where have you been? Of yeah, you’re a rookie on here.

    • BlindChow

      LOL.

    • nicksaenz1

      Yeah! QB who runs first and throws second! Great idea! We have no clue what that looks like!

      • Media Mike

        Hence why I want no part of that pick up game idiot Johnny Football. It’ll be great watching him try to extend a play by running like an idiot with the Browns and Geno Atkins (or somebody else scary) giving him a Mr. Perfect type suplex onto his head next season.

      • #7

        Runs out of necessity. Get it right

        • Van Buren

          Exactly I could chase this guy down before he got back to the line.

    • Engwrite

      “What could we look like with a mobile QB?”

      Exactly like today, with the mobile QB hurt and the back up playing.

    • Media Mike

      You don’t want a QB who runs a lot in the NFL because it is a garbage manner of playing QB. Chip’s O, with Foles, tore up the NFL this year. We don’t need a schoolyard baller like Johhny Football to come in here and freelance / run his was to injury, INTs, and poor passing performances. Chip Kelly + Pat Shurmur = Oregon system for NFL adults.

      • Tyler Phillips

        Unless we can somehow land mariota, there is no reason to draft a QB high.

        • Token

          I didnt think id be saying this a few months ago, but Mariota blows. Plus hes staying in school.

          • kleptolia

            Wow. Your football knowledge could fill a library. A children’s library. A library for mentally underdeveloped children. Children who can’t read. Mostly, it would be a lot of blocks and shapes and colors, and, somewhere in there, your football knowledge.
            Those poor, mentally underdeveloped children. We should get them a different library. One without your football knowledge in it. That would be the kind thing to do.

    • Media Mike

      And you realize we have an entire full 2014 to evaluate Foles before we’re allowed to extend his contract? Maybe his play comes back to earth next year, maybe he has another great year.

    • #7

      You make some good points.

    • Token

      Nobody wants a running QB. Only morons.

    • Kev_H

      Chip said Foles is the perfect QB for the Eagles.

    • jabostick

      “Of course, if the BIrds make a run in the playoffs and Nick can come up big in clutch situations (win 1 or 2 games) the answer is easy.”

      So, lets wait a week or four. Plenty of offseason time to re-hash the QB conversation if need be.

    • theycallmerob

      that’s not food for thought. it’s rhetorical doubt from a troll

    • morgan c

      Um, we absolutely stick with Foles. He had one of the best per game NFL numbers season in the history of the sport of American Football.
      But I guess we’d be better off with a running QB who gets hit, turns it over more often, and relies on athleticism to the detriment of actually providing consistent winning football?!

    • #7

      They’re misunderstanding you man. They always do that. You must never critique Foles on here even if it’s correct. It’s against the rules.

      You must be a Folesie so do this.

      • theedevilsadvocate

        lol oh boohoo stop your crying over vick not being the starter arleady will ya! damn you people just cant move on its like having a gf you break up with that keeps on stalking you…

    • OregonDucker

      Short-term memory loss is a terrible thing.

      • Van Buren

        Your right complete equals. I am proven wrong.
        (Sarcasm if your to dull to pick it up)

        • Joe from Easton

          If YOU’RE going to imply that someone isn’t bright then maybe you should try proper spelling Mr. Van Buren. Also, they’re not complete equals, thanks for pointing that out. Foles had a higher rating than Manning in their respective 7 TD performances.

          • EaglePete

            If were gonna grammar nazi, then we have to hit em all no? Too dull

    • EaglePete

      because Manning, Brady, Brees, Flacco, Eli, Big Ben have all made their careers and Super Bowl wins out of running when they needed to. Now that we know that is the ultimate factor and difference maker we can proceed with looking for a new QB with that skill set.

      Back to philly.shwag for you, looks like the attention seeker got what he wanted though, congrats

  • Media Mike

    HAVE to tighten up that pass blocking. Considering the Cowboys have zero pro bowls on the D-line from anybody other than Ware this was a 2nd poor blocking performance vs. a collection of dudes who have been abused on D all year. We’ll need to score a lot of points to beat the Saints, we cannot have a below average game pass blocking.

    • cliff henny

      hatcher played well this year. hopefully Jones franchises or over pays for yet another 30 yr old. george selvie isnt half bad either. agree in general, need to give foles cleaner pocket

      • Media Mike

        Hatcher is a career journeyman with limited playing time and even more limited stats. I don’t know what got into him this year, but I resent him playing well all of a sudden and especially against us. And he still didn’t make the pro bowl! Selvie was the man as a sophomore at South Florida, but he has worse knees than Joe Namath as this point.

        • bentheimmigrant

          I’m sure everyone resents Foles playing well against them, considering he’s not a pro bowler.

          • Media Mike

            Fair point, I just find myself appalled at Hatcher coming out of nowhere this year.

          • bentheimmigrant

            Sure. But again, this happens. Look at Mathis.

          • Media Mike

            No doubt. I just don’t like being the victim of it.

        • cliff henny

          all the more better! outside eagles game, i wanted hatcher to get 10 sacks a game. you know jerry’s just itching to scratch him a stupid check.
          .
          didnt know that about GS knees. he’s in the wrong place, cause with lack of depth, they’ll force him out there till he’s completely broken. like they did with lee. lee had no business playing (believe it was week 14) when he re-injured himself. cowboy fans complain about injuries, but it’s mostly because players re-injure themselves.

          • Media Mike

            True enough on the $ front. If you look at Dallas vs. the cap next year it is really funny. They’re soooooooooo far up the creek without a paddle, they’ll be cutting players left and right. If they tag Hatcher, they’ll have to cut two other starters to do it.

            If you look up the info on Selvie from when he was drafted, he plummeted due to those knee issue. Really a shame if you look at how he played prior to getting hurt.

          • bentheimmigrant

            It’s even better than having to cut players. The overthecap.com guy did a breakdown of the situation, and basically concluded they’re going to have to extend everyone that has a big contract except Ware, who they’ll have to ditch. This will be regardless of performance or age. Romo will likely be there till he’s almost 40.

          • Media Mike

            HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. So we’re talking another 4 to 5 years of cap hell for the Cowboys! That is awesome. I’m shocked that Jerry won’t just take his medicine and cut everybody now.

          • bentheimmigrant

            He can’t afford to. Too much guaranteed money.

          • cliff henny

            that’s a great article. best part is, they discuss how then to sign dez and murray, Romo has to be extended. love how dallas and fans acted like it was team friendly contract, and it’s coming out how bad it really is. back injury or not, romo will count 20m against thru ’19 season.

          • cliff henny

            who are they going to cut? only guy that clears space is ware, clears 8m, but also carries 8m dead. austin, he clears 1m, but carries 7+m dead (will be reported as june1 cuts where 1/3 is taken in ’14, but 2/3rds in ’15, so it’ll sound better in ’14). rest of the top 10-12 contracts all are upside down. the solution is even worse, restucture and kick the can down the line. even june 1st’g bo these guys they’ll still be 3m over in ’14, and carry about 12m dead into ’15. long live jerry!!!

  • Loke1988

    You right Sheil, you seem overly critical.

  • Token

    Dissecting Foles while basically saying the line played well its some pretty odd analysis. This was maybe the lines worst game of the season. They got manhandled.

    One thing about our WRs, they are terrible when it comes to freelancing. If the play breaks down or they need to change their route when Foles buys a bit of time…..they dont do it. Most of the time they stand there. Its terrible.

    • cloisterwater

      Where did he say the line played well? His analysis seems pretty spot on to me. They played very well run blocking and struggled in pass protection.

    • Joe from Easton

      That’s my beef with our receivers. Ertz and coop both do a good job of it, but DJax NEVER breaks off of his route and comes back to the play. I also would like to see Shady leak out once the play breaks down a little more than he does. He’s always an eligible receiver and with Foles height, he’ll find him 75% of the time.

      • Andy124

        Never say NEVER.

  • Ron Swanson

    Hey Sheil, when that All-22 comes out take a look at Riley Cooper on that last eagles third down play. Now I think that a flag for a late hit on Foles would have been pretty weak (though the bears were called for much less on Rodgers earlier in the day), Riley had his man beat but then the defender grabbed his jersey stretching it out about two feet in order to catch back up. Without that hold, he’s wide open for a 10+ yard gain. Just made me think that Dallas may have gotten away with some stuff in the secondary that didn’t allow receivers to get open.

    • Always Hopeful

      Saw that too. Riley had his man beat and was crossing the field towards Foles as Foles was running to his right. Would’ve been a tough throw, but Nick is pretty good on the run to his right.

    • Hurricane

      Yeap..like how the Pokes only had ONE penalty the entire game. HEY REFS, you’re not allowed to hold/tackle/knock down a receiver on a screen – rulebook quote: “defensive actions [behind the line of scrimmage] such as tackling a
      receiver can still result in a 5-yard penalty for defensive holding…”. That was driving me nuts the entire game! Or how about calling that blatant SPEARING on Murray against D-Square (although it was awesome!). Saw several holding calls that went uncalled (especially on some of those Murray runs to the perimeter). Those refs were bad…although someone made up for it with the playclock snafu…

  • Mike

    His receivers don’t always help him. I remember one replay of DJax running a 5 yard route and just standing there covered while Foles tried to escape pressure.

    • Joe from Easton

      DJax seems to me to be our worst receiver at trailing back to the QB on an extended play. With his speed, he should be our best receiver once the play breaks down, not our worst.

      • EaglePete

        yup, agree with both of these posts. Almost seems like they needed be coached up on that even though theyve played their entire lives and should be ingrained.

  • Andy124

    I’ll never see a troll get starved to death will I? Ever. Anywhere.

    • OldDocRoss

      Whaaaaa….?!

      You mean you *don’t* believe that in the wake of the Eagles beating a hated rival to clinch a playoff spot that a regular old Eagles fan would post (for the first time ever here) precisely the same thing in two different threads about how they should ditch the young QB who just completed one of the finest statistical seasons in history in favour of a rookie?

      I put it to you, good sir, that you are a cynic!

      • Andy124

        I guess I’ve been listenting to Vampire Weekend’s Unbelievers too often.

        • theycallmerob

          that downvote was me.

          • Andy124

            I tried to downvote you back, but my mouse wouldn’t let me.

  • morgan c

    Sheil, I agree that Foles was uneven. But if we are going to be totally objective about him (and perhaps a bit “overly critical”), then I think we should be that way with everyone. Meaning, yes McCoy was great (and it’s tough to be critical on a 133 yard performance), but as you’d say with Foles when he makes a mistake, same should go for Shady. He absolutely made a bad decision I think in the second quarter on a run. Collinsworth pointed it out. Lane had either pulled around to the left behind Mathis (or started there as part of the unbalanced line), and created a GAPING hole. For some inexplicable reason, Shady, as he sometimes does, danced around and went to the right, running into a wall for no gain. He follows Johnson, and with Shady’s shiftiness, it’s an EASY 30 yard carry. Easily. That’s a huge mistake there when we had to punt later that drive.

    Also, Foles play action deep ball to Celek following the Kendricks INT was a superb ball. He did not simply “throw it up for grabs,” like he did with Avant; he put it in a perfect spot where only Celek could make a play. If you rewatch, you’ll see the safety (I think #42) coming over, creeping from center field toward Celek. If Foles really launches that ball, the safey has a chance to break it up or intercept it (or decapitate Celek). Celek isn’t the most graceful dude and got turned around and perhaps made the catch look a bit more difficult? I don’t know, just watching that play and rewatching it, that looked to be literally the most perfect throw he could have made in that situation.

    Good analysis as usual. I just think sometimes you are deadly objective with Nick, as you should be, but you don’t point out the same (limited, but still) mistakes with some other guys.

    • theycallmerob

      not to mention some of the stinkshows his peers put on display on a regular basis. Wilson killed me in my fantasy playoffs, he was so bad.

    • EaglePete

      yup, agreed, the throw of the day though was that dart to Cooper imo, he placed that between two defenders in the perfect spot with some zip. Both of those throws were superb really, Celeks being the other one. Def got happy feet in 2nd half, there is plenty to be critical of but it wasnt all on him. It became a show of intentional grounding efforts at one point, even Orton got in on it with one throw like he was watching Foles and learning. Foles has to be more crafty with some of his throw aways, the refs have tape on it now and will flag him more if they are so blatant.

      • morgan c

        For sure – I want to be clear that Foles was far from his best. I totally agree it was an uneven game. And as people who read this site and comments know, I love this blog. And Sheil’s game analysis is simply outstanding.

        I just know he came from a place of skepticism with Foles from the beginning, more so than Tim IMO (which is TOTALLY fair), and sometimes I feel that skepticism shows up in places where it shouldn’t necessarily. I.e. Calling Celek throw a ball up for grabs, when it’s simply not the same as the Avant throw, described the same way, which definitely was. I know I sound like an ass nit-picking. :)

    • BrickSquadMonopoly

      There was nothing overly critical about their analysis. He got sacked 5 times? He was holding on to the ball too long. Nick is somewhat susceptible to the strip sack as well as we’ve all seen. Overall he did enough to win but should have audibled out of the sneak at the goal line. THATS overly critical.