For Foles, Dallas Now Behind Him

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Arlington, Texas — It  was clear from the early going that Nick Foles was going to have a better day this time around.

The biggest game of Foles’ young career — a Sunday night showdown in Dallas for the NFC East crown — happened to be versus the same Cowboys team that he struggled badly against two months back. That 11-for-29, 80-yard performance, which ended with a concussion, left the quarterback’s future in Philadelphia uncertain.

What followed was one of the more remarkable stories of the year, with Foles leading the Eagles to wins in six of seven games down the stretch while amassing unbelievable personal stats, some 0f which only Peyton Manning and Tom Brady have matched. And now here came the Cowboys again, with the playoffs on the line.


It took less than a quarter for Foles to surpass his numbers from that October 20th game. He ended up 17-of-26 for 263 yards with two touchdowns, no interceptions and a 124.4 quarterback rating in the Eagles' 24-22 division-clinching win.

"I didn’t play a good game [the first time around].  I know everybody wants to stress that but I just didn’t play a good game that day," said Foles. "It’s exciting to get this win in Dallas and to put that behind me.  I put it behind me a long time ago but I think it just shows that our team has grown – I’ve grown as a player – and I’m going to continue to grow.  I still have a lot of work to do.  I still have a lot of flaws in my game. I still have a lot of things to correct."

The stats suggest otherwise.

Foles finished the regular season with a quarterback rating of 119.2. That's not only tops for the 2013 season, but the third-best QB rating   for a season in NFL history (Aaron Rodgers – 122.5 in 2011, Manning – 121.1 in 2004). He threw 27 touchdowns and just two interceptions on the season. That is the best TD/INT ratio in NFL history.

"He's so poised. I can't tell you how impressed I am with him," said owner Jeffrey Lurie. "Extremely poised, he's never going to celebrate too much. He's someone you want to go to war with because he's always going to be there for everybody. Everything good about football he shares with his teammates. What can you say, 24-years old and doing great."

Foles did most of his damage in the first half, as 197 of his 263 yards and both TD throws came in the first two quarters. The Dallas defense put heavy pressure on him after intermission. Outside of an 11-play, 60-yard touchdown drive that was carried by the Eagles' ground game, the offense was kept in check late. Foles lost a fumble at the beginning of the half.

But he, like his teammates, weathered the storm, and were able to survive and advance.

"When you play quarterback – I’ve always believed, since I’ve played this as a kid; that’s why I’ve played this – in times of adversity, they’re going to look to the quarterback to see how he’s reacting," said Foles, whose 0.63% interception percentage ranks as the third-lowest in NFL history. "There’s going to be adversity in games.  We overcame it today as a team and it was an exciting game to win.  I had a blast out there. Our defense was coming up big; special teams played really good ball and our offense was able to put some points on the board.  In those times of adversity, the game’s not over.  There’s still time on the clock. That’s how I’ve always looked at it – I’m going to play until that clock says zero. "

 

 

 

  • G_WallyHunter

    Wake-up call at 2:50am?!!
    2nd article of day at 6:50am!?!
    Damn, lovin post-season Birds already, keep up great work
    GO EAGLES!!!!
    Twas a nail biter, Boykin saves us all from smashing our flatscreens (or iPads)

    • Jason

      Or our buddies flat screen. The one that kept telling me how Dan Bailey was the Cowboys best player. Thank God, Boykin ended that drama before it got started.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Could you imagine a 60 yarder to win there? They only needed what 30 yds or so.. would have really been bad.
        Thanks Boykin

        • nicksaenz1

          3 games he’s officially closed out. Redskins 2, Bears, and Cowboys 2.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Ha.. and he still doesn’t get pro-bowl nod.
            Whatever, screw the pro bowl, only bowl that matters is the one starting with an S, and I’m very happy that all the Eagles players know and say that. Each and every one you see interviewed, all they care about is team wins and team accomplishments (SB).

            Their consistent mindset towards TEAM goals and TEAM accomplishments, TEAM accolades.. is amazing. Talk about a strong culture.

          • GEAGLE

            In the month of December eagles beat 4 teams with a winning record at the time we played them: cardinals(one of the hottest Teams), lions,bears! Cowboys….

          • Dominik

            And they lost the the one team with a (clear) losing record. Only the gods may understand that.

        • cliff henny

          forget which game, but showed the ex TB that kicked 62 yarder in ’07 or ’08 for win, was having flashbacks.

          • nicksaenz1

            Was that a Gramatica?

          • Jason

            No, Matt Bryant. 62 harder for the win

          • EuropeanEagle

            That was 06. Right after a 30 something yard td reception by BWest.

        • Loke1988

          I was thinking Chip should have gone for 2 after the last TD to make Dallas have to score six but it worked out thanks to Brandon.

          • Dominik

            Thought the same thing initially, but look at the math: 2 point conv. is about 50 percent. Let them have the 50/50, we take the 98 percent for one point.

  • Joe from Easton

    If it wasn’t for a cornucopia of craft beer and food thanks to my misses I may have had a heart attack last night. I kept myself numb with bowls of chili and some nice rigatoni with pork ragu. Go birds!!!!!!

  • GEAGLE

    It must suck to wake up this morning as a cowboy lol…
    ..
    Joeffry wherre are you? I want to you to tell me how much Kendrick sucks today lol

    Kendricks: “I’m here to make a difference and you can quote me on that”

    • Token

      to be fair. Dallas offense basically ran thru Kendricks. He was burnt all day in coverage.

      • theycallmerob

        I’d rather him than Chung, with no one behind him. Kendricks actually had some good coverages where the ball was still caught.
        Hopefully our new S can help in this dept.

        • Token

          Really hoping Wolff is ready to go. Chung is just dreadful.

        • morgan c

          He really actually played well in coverage. He was in good position. But there’s just not much to do when you’re a 5’10″ player covering a Hall of Fame beast TE. Orton led him with the ball and that was that. I don’t blame Kendricks at all. What we do need to do, however, against NO, is double Graham. Kendricks alone doesn’t stand a chance. Take our chances single covering the WRs.

          • mike

            Kendricks is good running in a straight line, that’s about it. He overplays every move a TE makes. I hope they figure out a way to cover Graham in a way that doesn’t involve just Kendricks

        • Jason

          Is it bad that after one of Witten’s catches, were Chung helped on the tackle. I said to my buddies, well at least Chung didn’t tackle Kendricks off of the play.

          • Dominik

            Low expectations for the win!

    • cliff henny

      it must suck to wake up every and any day a cowboys fan

      • GEAGLE

        Lol I know you couldn’t help yourself from peaking at a cowboys blog last night

        • cliff henny

          yup…was basically 2 themes…1, how proud they were of effort and b, hate for garrett.
          .
          dilfer had the best line…how people talk about how underacheiving dallas is with overall talent. he said ‘unless you get 20% better by putting on star, it isnt that talented of a team. few great players, but gm doesnt draft consistantly for scheme. roll players arent that good’

          • nicksaenz1

            Heard that line and laughed my arse off. It was priceless.

  • GEAGLE

    FOles talked about how as soon as he fumbled the ball, Meco ran over to him and told him “we got you, we got you”‘… Defense came up huge holding them to a FG…is it just me, or did FOles kind of try and impersonate an angry black man voice when he told the story? Lol ‘we got you!!!”

    Oline has to play better this week!

    Wolff tweeted about how happy he is that the season isn’t over and he gets to play one more week…..we NEED him, Chung is a major liability

    • G_WallyHunter

      That was Foles tryin to show his swag. Shady’s teachin him well

      • GEAGLE

        “We got you dawg…we got you!!”

  • theycallmerob
    • GEAGLE

      Dude…I’m trying to remain anonymous…take my pic down please

      • Joe from Easton

        haha, that’s definitely you man!

        • GEAGLE

          If i had tits like that I would be too busy fondling myself to type :)

          • Joe from Easton

            Thanks for the visual. I’m puking in the garbage can under my desk right now.

    • devCal

      baybay, baby..

  • GEAGLE

    Wtf…we play Saturday? Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

    • Andy124

      That much less time we have to wait. And I don’t have to worry about going to work hungover and exhausted the following Monday. Works for me. Guessing you’ll have to work at that time?

      • DanFromDelcoo

        I already ruined my marriage by telling my wife she is going to wedding by herself now.

        • GEAGLE

          Hahah good man!

        • Andy124

          Gotta set the expectations early.

        • Maggie

          No DVR?

          • DanFromDelcoo

            I’m going to the game. But even if I wasn’t, there’s no way I wouldn’t have had the results ruined by other people.

      • GEAGLE

        I will be in Hoboken til Sunday morning…I can watch the game, but I won’t be able to go…..grrrrrrr

      • nicksaenz1

        Yeah, today is rough. Saturday night > Sunday night. Would have preferred early game Sunday, though.

    • cliff henny

      really? think that’s the best time slot. a, short week gives home team adavantage b, short week gives eagles sports science edge c, 8pm is colder and saints have proven weather bothers them.

      • GEAGLE

        Yeah well I can’t go to the game now lol

        • cliff henny

          sorry man. maybe 2 weeks later when sf comes to philly

          • GEAGLE

            Don’t tease me…I will start to get all giddy n shit if I start thinking about NFC title games..

            San Fran is 2.5 favorite to Green Bay….I would rather play San Fran’s physical smash mouth team than Rodgers air attack

          • cliff henny

            winner has to play seattle too. eagles obviously have to take care of business, but if i were to rank team, i’d go 1. seattle 2. sf 3. rodgers 4. caro 5. Aints on road…eagles got about as easy of draw as one could hope. whether it works out, who knows, who cares…10-6 playoffs, unbelievable!

          • GEAGLE

            Yes sir..I rank them the same way..

            This just feels like a Cinderella team, and FOles winning his first play off game against his high school hero just sounds like it fits perfectly with this seasons script

          • cliff henny

            witten is just a beast. think his stats against Eagles alone will make him HOF worthy. his precise route running just destroys eags yr in yr out. seems like eagles defense likes guys who want to be physical. hopefully keep graham somewhat in check. should be plenty of tape on how teams slowed saints down, especially on road. o-line needs much better game, want 200+ yards rushing.

      • nicksaenz1

        33 degrees is what they’re calling for. This is our game!

        • GEAGLE

          Saint average 18 points a game on the road,,,we have allowed more then 22 once in 3 months…I don’t think any defense can keep us under 24…so as long as the defensive number remains under 22, we won’t lose

          • BlindChow

            Drew Brees never won a road playoff game.

          • nicksaenz1

            No argument here, and I just realized that 33 is the high temp…. gonna be in the mid to high 20s come game time.

  • Tikkit

    Where you at @peteprisco

    • Jason

      I will give Prisco credit, he did eventually pick the Eagles to win. Still a douche

  • GEAGLE

    We open as a 2.5 favorite over the saints…

    • Andy124

      Would rather be a home dog.

      • GEAGLE

        Saints average 18 points on the road…as long as they stick to the script, I don’t care what the line is lol

        Kendrick has to slow down Graham…
        ..
        We have to cover their backs as WRs..

        They move Big Colston in the slot so Boykin will have to play BIG!!

        our offensive Line has to play better then last night

        • Token

          They cant put Kendricks on Graham. They gotta find another option. Kendricks cant cover anyone.

          • GEAGLE

            Go watch Kendricks snaps these past 5 games….if you are just going to judge him off the live games, your oppinion will be off….dude has been playing some amazing football as of late….a Few times he had solid coverage on Witten who just made a play

          • nicksaenz1

            He hasn’t been great in coverage. I get the love, but coverage has not been his strong suit. Witten had his way with him last night, and he’s lost a step. Kendricks is going to need some safety help.

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t get what that means lol.who are these linebackers who just shut down freak TE’s? Do they even exsist?

            You don’t shut down guys like Witten, and Graham, the best you can hope for is to not let them go wild and make a play on them in a crucial moment…

            Btw,when I praise Kendrick, I’m not so short sighted as to talk about today…my praise comes from understanding that he isn’t done growing yet…when I praise him, I’m not calling him great today, I’m saying he will grow to be GREAT!!..

            This time next year he will be a heckuva LB…I have NO doubts on him

          • nicksaenz1

            I don’t doubt he’ll be great in time, in fact, I agree, but when you praise him you make it seem like he doesn’t have coverage issues and didn’t just struggle with Witten and won’t struggle with Graham. That was where I was going.

          • GEAGLE

            Man, guys like those two GET. THEIRS no matter what….the best you can hope for is to make a play and stop them at an important time….LB who shut down guys like them don’t even exsist…
            ..
            I wouldn’t have to praise Mykal if I didn’t read idiotic fools like Joefry talk about how he sucks every day for MONTHS. People want to hold him to the standards of a 5th year probowler, and that’s just dumb….for a kid that we use in so many ways, first year in a new scheme, he is on pace to become an awesome Linebacker….when I stop reading about how much he sucks, then I won’t have to school fools lol

          • Token

            Nobody is looking for him to shut anyone down. Just kinda slow them up a little. Like maybe only allow 90 yards on 10 catches.

          • theycallmerob

            not discounting that. but what ILB can cover Graham?
            Davis does well at taking out the pieces that can hurt us the most. bracket coverages do the trick well. but pressure has to get home.

          • GEAGLE

            Gotta find another option? Where you finding that this time of year? You scheme to slow him down and hope the blitzes get home, understanding that Graham is going to get his

          • Andy124

            I think he means another option schematically, like playing Sconces on him or something.

          • GEAGLE

            I dunno how Billy I will decide to match up with them…they are problematic..not just Graham, but the pass catching RBs, they move big body Colston into the slot…how we chose to Match up with them will be fascinating…

          • BlindChow

            Murray was open for checkdowns all night. Sproles is going to kill us.

          • Andy124

            Yeah, if we don’t get massive pressure on Brees (and maybe even if we do) they should light us up like they do to everyone.

            I’m ok with that. We beat Dallas.

          • GEAGLE

            They can have all the yards they want as long as I don’t see more then 22 points on the scoreboard…

            You guys see Dallas move the ball and act like the sky is falling lol..has anyone watched an eagles game this year? We GIVE UP YARDS!! Its what we DO!! But we keep you out of the ENDZONE and we come up with turnovers…Chow, did I not tell you we would get 3 Turnovers last night?
            ..
            We are the definition of bend but don’t break…we have a giant hole at safety. Issues Billy has to cover up..we aren’t a finished product, but we have seen that if everyone battles and does their job, we keep points off the board..
            ..
            Before Yous cry and act like the sky is falling throughout the saints game, I can save you the trouble and assure you that we will give up Plenty of yards this week…it’s all about coming up with a turnover, or holding them to a FG….we are improving in those aspects…we used to struggle on 3rd, we improved at getting off the field these past two weeks..
            ….
            NEWS FLASH…we we don’t have all the pieces we need defensively yet…we aren’t going to be able to ride a great lock down defense to the SB….but there is no reason we can’t be an opportunistic defense like the saints Super Bowl winning defense….they they gave up plenty of yards, but made big plays at the right time..I see no reason why we can’t be that type of defense NOW

          • Jason

            I think Davis has done a good job taking away the best offensive player, it’s the secondary guys that have killed us.

          • GEAGLE

            Cary and Boykin were spectacular last night..Brad was solid….once we get good safeties, everything will tighten up, and we will attack more on defense, right now Billy is busy masking holes

          • Token

            Obviously. Well I thought it was obvious.

            You dont play the Saints with the plan being “Graham will get his”. That means you likely lost the game. He is their biggest asset. You scheme to take him out first and make them beat you with other guys.

          • GEAGLE

            Dude, where I come from, we automatically assume a teams number one option is getting schemed….but within the extra attention he gets, I expect kendrick and Barwin as the ones primarily responsible for slowing him down….but every team that faces the saints tries to Brackett Graham, he will get his…hopefully we stop him at a few crucial points…..but of course I’m not suggesting sticking Mykal on an island against Graham all day….scheming him should be assumed, no?

            He will burn an eagles safety on a seam route at some point…

          • Andy124

            I say leave him uncovered. Brees will never expect it and think it’s a trap so he won’t throw to him. And if we covered him, he’d just get open anyway. Meanwhile, that frees up an extra defender to rush the passer or help in coverage. Fool proof. :)

          • GEAGLE

            I see someone’s been reading the Juan Castillo guide to good defense

          • Always Hopeful

            Unfortunately that’s true…

        • Corey Dawson

          They’ll do a few things for Graham. Sometimes it will be Kendricks in single coverage, but they’ll also bracket with a safety as well a lot of the time. That’s what they did on the final play last night to Witten, making Orton go to his second read for the Boykin pick. I expect to see the TE bracket more often on Saturday than last night since Colston isn’t as good a Dez and you don’t need as much over the top help with him. So, instead of bracketing Dez the whole game, they mostly will bracket Graham. This coverage would put single coverage on the outside with Boykin on Moore in the slot, all of which I think are good match ups for the Eagles. You have the last safety over the top, keying on the slot guy running the seam or helping one of the outside CBs.

          I also expect to see a good amount of Boykin singling on Graham. This will likely put an OLB on the slot guy, likely Moore, if they’re in 3WR, 1TE, and he would likely get the safety bracket. In this case Kendricks can be blitzing or covering their check down to Sproles. I think covering Sproles is where Kendricks can really shine and take away a portion of the Saint’s gameplan. Even with the bracket on Moore, I think this is where he can really hurt us with short routes.

          Those are the two main man coverages I see that play in the Eagle’s favor. Williams and Fletcher will have to be good in single coverage on the outside in order to pull it off though. Of course there will be plenty of zone as well.

          Lots of things you can do. The key will be mixing it up and trying to confuse Brees a bit, which is no easy task. I’m just hoping mixing it up slows his reads down just enough to get some pressure on him and force some bad balls, throw aways, and check downs. I really think the Kendricks matchup on Sproles will be a big thing to watch.

          • GEAGLE

            can’t use Boykin on Graham, because they saints are smart and move their number 1 WR Colston into the slot, and you don’t want Cary or Brad lined up in the slot often, and you would rather have a LB or Safety on Graham, then on Colston….but yes we will see a ton of Bracket coverage, Barwin Jaming him at the line and then releasing him to someone Else after disrupting the timing is another look we will throw at them…
            ..
            Graham running seam routes against our safeties is a scary thought

          • Corey Dawson

            Yeah, you’re totally right on that. In cases where Colston is in the slot, it’ll almost force Boykin onto him and hence a LB onto Graham. They need to bracket Graham with a safety the whole game for man coverages, and really rely on the CBs to do their jobs well.

            And yeah, I see a lot of Barwin or Cole jamming Graham and Colston (when in the slot) at the line and passing him off. It worked well against Fitz. I’m so scared of them on the seam routes against our safeties, especially if we’re in zone. The combo of Colston, Graham, and Lance Moore running double seams against 3 deep is the stuff of nightmares.

            I hope we find some safeties in the offseason. I feel like Williams would be so much better if he could get up on the line and jam people.

          • GEAGLE

            Preaching to the choir…get good safeties and Cary and Brad will be all the CBs we NEED!!

      • nicksaenz1

        That basically makes us home dog. Home team starts -3, so the line at -2.5 means the Saints are a slight favorite in what’s basically a pick’em.

  • GEAGLE

    They asked BRAMA bull Barwin how it feels to be in back in the playoffs: “I was in the playoffs last year so this is where I’m supposed to be”……damn right Connor you stud!!!

    • Andy124

      The name is Berwin. Get it straight.

  • morgan c

    Great game first of all. So pumped we won and are back in the playoffs! This is an a great thing, period.

    That said, a few takeaways:

    1) Foles was okay. He did enough to win, and as this piece states, importantly, Dallas is behind him. I am not sure quite what it is, but for some reason, their defense flummoxes and confuses him in ways that cause hesitancy he never displays against other teams. His cautiousness to not turn the ball over, as Collinsworth noted, caused him to take huge and debilitating sacks multiple times. He must get rid of the ball quicker in those situations, or throw it away. That said, on the final meaningful snap where he turtled to take the sack, throwing the ball away would have been a much worse play. At the end of the day, he hung in there, never blinked, and did enough to win. I expect a sharper performance against New Orleans.

    2) Similarly to Foles, our Oline really struggled against Dallas. They got consistent pressure by simple stunts with only a four man rush (or a straight rush), and they seemed to be off with McCoy on a few plays. I guess that falls more on McCoy, who by the way, had a great game. But that one run in particular where he ran into a wall of defenders trying to make something out of nothing, when Lane had pulled successfully to the left side creating a huge hole, was a big miss. Must take advantage of those opportunities against a New Orleans team that surely will.

    3) On defense, a gutty performance. Kendricks played as well as could be expected and was truly a star performer. That said, in mostly single coverage, he gave up 12 for 135 to Witten. And he wasn’t even playing bad coverage. What does this mean? We must double Graham with he and a safety. If that means the WRs beat us deep, so be it. Williams and Fletcher were simply outstanding against the Cowboys’ WRs and we have to take our chances. Kendricks alone cannot cover Graham.

    4) Pass rush struggled to get home. It often seemed like we got more pressure with simple 3 man rush? Our stunts and blitzes with 5 or 6 seemed to never get home. This is an issue Davis must fix against New Orleans.

    5) Chung has to be benched. We may not have anyone else, but I don’t care. I know Davis took a risk, as Collinsworth noted, with the zero blitz on the Dez TD, but Chung was still in position to stop the gain for 10 and a simple first down. He cannot tackle well, and has terrible instincts. A 70% Wolff would be far superior. Hell, I’d be willing to trot out Colt Anderson at this point. Allen, who I’ve been hard on, played well it seemed.

    Huge win. Bring on the Saints!

    • Andy124

      Colt’s injured too.

      • morgan c

        Then Coleman. And yes, I know how bad he is. But he cannot be WORSE than Chung. Hopefully Wolff can go and this is moot. Billy Davis has to call a game plan to get more pressure too.

        • Andy124

          But he cannot be WORSE than Chung.
          Not sure I agree with that. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. Not saying Chung isn’t bad, but I think his deficiencies may be getting a bit overblown. Obviously, would feel MUCH better with Wolff out there.

    • Maggie

      My daughter, who rarely watches the NFL, asked me twice why did that player not tackle the receiver. “That player” was Chung.

  • Will

    Thanks Tim for the nice article on Foles…

    • GEAGLE

      We know it hurts McManus to praise FOles :) thanks Tim for taking one for the team

      • Will

        Now are secondary is gonna get tested by Brees…

        • cliff henny

          only so much they can do, d-line needs to get pressure.

        • Token

          Having Wolff back should help a bit. Chung is just too easily exploited. I think it hurts what Billy can run.

  • Ascher Levy

    If you calculate over the entire 16 games, Foles would have thrown for more than 4600 yards this year. Without Macklin. Just awesome.

    • GEAGLE

      Dude woulda had like 37 TDs 5 INTs, 3 fumbles….

      Everyone talks about the INTs but the fact that he only fumbled twice is incredible

      • nicksaenz1

        Remember everyone last offseason talking about how turnover prone he was and completely disregarding that he played with a worse overall team than what we started with? Love that he shut up the haters, well, most of them.

        • Andy124

          Dude, you had the claws out last night lol!

          • nicksaenz1

            Haha I did. I had a couple in me. And I thought clowns like BBaaS and #7 were done here. Was really annoyed so I took Clayton Bigsby’s advice and let the hate out of my heart, and then they just started to reply to each other by the end, which was nice.

          • cliff henny

            just needed dutch to show up…ask him how he like berwin after 4th down batdown

          • GEAGLE

            Barwin as made that play once in like twelve games this year

          • cliff henny

            picked the right time

          • nicksaenz1

            I miss him.

          • Andy124

            Just visit IB and read shah’s posts. That’ll scratch your Dutch itch plenty. A little less inchoherent, but equally detached from reality.

          • Joe from Easton

            “White power”

          • Andy124

            Was that said last night?

          • Joe from Easton

            Clayton Bigsby? White power?

          • Andy124

            Google tells me I should have watched more of the Chapelle show.

          • Joe from Easton

            So will anyone who has watched it. Damn you missed out on some comedy gold. I recommend that if you’re going to catch some episodes that you start with the clayton bigsby episode or the wayne brady episode. Classics.

          • Andy124

            My brother in law showed me the wayne brady one a while back. I laughed so hard I cried.

          • James Skip Carl

            Prince Episode and the niggar family

    • Will

      Foles was on pace for 54 TD’s and 4 INT’s…The Kid is Awesome…

  • Will

    Worth [URL=http://www.makeagif.com/7zeYEQ][IMG]http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/…[/IMG][/URL] one more look, Thanks Brandon Boykin!

  • Andy124

    Seen a couple posts about Nick in a full season. Nick basically played 10.5 games this year. Take out 1 touchdown and 75 garbage time yards against Denver so we don’t yeast the projections:

    4,291 yards 40tds. 3ints Mighty impressive.

    Also, 43 sacks (which is quite a lot). If that’s the cost of eliminating picks, I’ll pay it.

    • Always Hopeful

      He’ll get better at getting rid of the ball and take less sacks.

    • nicksaenz1

      Not good enough. He needs to throw for 5500 and 56 TDs to be considered a legit starter in the NFL.

      • Andy124

        He’s too slow.

        • Tikkit

          Yeah, and he can’t run the read-option or the zone read.

          • Andy124

            Can’t beat Shady in a foot race either.

          • Tikkit

            Maybe the better move would have been to give Dallas the win last night because our QB sucks so bad.

          • Andy124

            oh god don’t even say that in jest.

  • GEAGLE

    Of course my boy Gavin Escobar would show up last night. “You broke my heart Fredo”

    • cliff henny

      he only half decent when no one covers him.

      • GEAGLE

        What’s up with Travis Kelce? Has he been playing?

        • cliff henny

          no idea. i’m happy with ertz. f the rest! amazing how much better howie is drafting with kelly in charge

          • mksp

            Uh. Cox, Foles, Boykin, Curry, Bryce?

          • cliff henny

            rest of drafted TEs, not eagles draft picks

          • GEAGLE

            Kelly will make Howie look brilliant…ATleast the next two drafts will be good because our college staff will still know the players in the next two drafts….I expect ATleast 3 STUDS in each of the next two drafts….take a round 1, round 2 and 3 talent with good Charecter and high football IQ and our coaches will turn them into BALLERS and Howie continues to make LaConfora look clueless

          • cliff henny

            2 more drafts like last 2, it’s not if, it’s how many lombardies are in philly. not to mention eagles cap is spectacular in ’14 and ’15 it’s even better.

          • GEAGLE

            It’s coming!!! Hopefully we don’t waste any picks on “value picks” like Barkley these next two years….we plucked Wolff out of the 5th and Boykin out of the 4th…imagine what we could have if we didn’t draft Barkley…
            This year we have a
            1
            2
            3
            4
            5
            5

            Imagine if we get two more Wolff types in the 5th…

            Fingers crossed, Kruger comes out like a beast next year

          • Bdawkbdawk

            Foles was a value pick. We should continue drafting for value.

          • GEAGLE

            How was a 3rd round pick, on a team with a 30yr old QB a value pick? Drafting a QB, when you already have a young QB that you haven’t played yet is a value pick….we targeted FOles and Wilson….Barkley was drafted because we couldn’t believe he was still on the board….apples and oranges

          • Bdawkbdawk

            I think you just answered your own question. He was a 3rd round pick on a team with a 30 year old QB. It is not rare for a QB to play until his mid 30s. It is very rare to have a 3rd round QB come onto a team and be an above average starter. Above average QBs on rookie deals are the most valuable asset in the NFL. It is clear that no one in the NFL expected this type of production out of Foles or Wilson. If they had, they darn sure wouldn’t have waited until the 3rd round to risk missing out on it. Apples and apples.

          • GEAGLE

            A top 100 players drafted(practically) when you have a QB on a one year deal who’s future is uncertain is soooo not a value pick..
            Fans seriously under rate the value of a 3rd round pick….

            I think ther is a big difference between 3rd round pick and 4th round…
            I group rounds together as follows:
            1st tier (rounds 1-3)
            2nd tier (rounds 4-5)
            3rd tier 6-7)

          • Bdawkbdawk

            I’m very glad for your subjective grouping as well as the gratuitous downvote because you disagree with me. Look up the historic success rate of 3rd round QBs. Ask yourself why Nick Foles and Russell Wilson, two of the most promising, and therefore valuable players in the league got passed over 70 something times. Two value picks with possible upside. If a team needs a QB, they don’t wait till late to fill it unless they are just fishing for a backup. Youre wrong- no shame in manning up about it.

          • GEAGLE

            I didn’t down vote you…never downvoted anyone with out telling them. I don’t indulge in bitch behavior…sorry. I’m not the culprit lol

          • Bdawkbdawk

            Well, I’m sorry for the innapropriate accusation then. I guess I came by the downvote honestly :). But I think my point still stands. Which probably isn’t really a bad thing. I think trusting our Front Office and scouts to identify the BPA for a rebuilding franchise with a young roster is a pretty good move.

          • GEAGLE

            Kapernick wasn’t a first round pick…Was Geno smith a Value pick? Wtf are you talking about? You don’t see the difference between drafting a QB when your future is uncertain with a 31yr old QBon a 1yr deal…and drafting a QB. When you already have two QBs who can play, or ATleast need to play?
            ..

            I’d. Rather have Vick as a backup next year then Barkley…when we drafted FOles we only had 1 QB, VICK…you NEED to always have two QBs you can put in the game..we didn’t. Have that when we drafted foles, so if you think an orange tastes like an apple we will have to agree to disagree

          • Bdawkbdakw

            Yes Kaepernick was not a first round pick. I don”t know what the 49ers’ big board looked like so I cant say definatively, but they often went BPA.
            I think it’s pretty obvious that Geno was not the BPA.
            If you are just looking for a Backup I think you can almost necessarily draft for BPA, because there is so many average guys hanging around.
            Vick was a year removed from a ProBowl season and signed a 100 million dollar contract. I think Seattle had just brought in Flynn to a sizable contract. We also had VY. I think it’s pretty clear that Seattle and us were just fishing for a QB that we were surprised were still on the board because of the value. We didn’t even try to move up in the round to grab them.

          • Andy124

            My 2 cents, you two should establish an agreed upon definition of “value pick” before debating if Nick fits that definition or not.

          • Bdawkbdawk

            That’s fair. I was operating under the definition assumed in calling Barkley a value pick, but I guess that was not a given/clear.

          • Andy124

            And what made Barkley a value pick? The fact that he was BPA regardless of the position?

            If BPA regardless of position is an acceptable definition, then we pretty much just have to assume that all picks the last two years were value picks don’t we?

          • Bdawkbdawk

            Yes. Precisely. I understood Geagle to be saying that we should not take BPA because he likes a large portion of our roster and thinks we can draft for need. I think that’s not a good strategy and retorted that drafting BPA can result in Nick Foles esqu diamonds in the rough.

          • Andy124

            Outside of putting a high value on OLB, I don’t think Geagle is a draft for need kind of guy. I’m guessing he’s viewing something as a value pick only if we don’t have a need at the position or specific interest in that player. By that definition, Foles would not have been a value pick, as we clearly had specific interest in him and a need at that position.

            I don’t think one definition is more valid than another. I just think the disagreement stemmed mainly from a semantics issue.

          • Bdawkbdawk

            That’s fair – the disagreement could very well have been semantic in nature. I still don’t really follow your analysis in the first paragraph though. If you are interpretting Geagle correctly you would have Bark as a value pick, but Foles not as one becaue for Foles “we had specific interest in him and need at the position.”
            That seems backwards. When we drafted Foles, we had just signed Vick to a 100 million dollar contract and he was a year removed from a pro bowl season. Sure we had interest in Foles, but that interest was not particularly high (Reid liked drafting later round QBs, developing them and then trading them away for value).
            This past offseason we actually had more instability at the QB position. And therefore, more of a need.Vick had two mediocre seasons and Foles had not played particularly encouraging because the team had essentially collapsed. Thus if we accept Bark to be a value pick – Foles becomes even more of a value pick.

          • Andy124

            We differ in our evaluation of our need at QB. By a lot.

          • Bdawkbdawk

            Really?
            Knowing what we do now, we obviously had more instability at QB when we just had Vick and VY, than when we had Vick and Foles this past offseason. But we know this now, not at the time of the two drafts. I really don’t understand how you disagree unless you are using post hoc analysis.
            ….
            If anyone reasonably projected that Foles and Wilson would have this type of potential before the draft, they would have been top ten picks.

          • Andy124

            I didn’t elaborate in my last post because this dead horse has been beaten so badly that it’s bascially a piles of pudding at this point. I’ll try to be very brief:

            After 2011 we had an aging QB, coming off another injury riddled season, and career’s worth of mediocrity, a ghastly number of turnovers, and basically no decent backups. He’d also finsihed 2010 on a down note.

            After 2012 we had a young guy who showed more than enough promise to be given a chance this year to see if he could be the man. This is anything but hindsight as myself and others said during his run last year and all during the off season that he showed signs of being a potentially very good qb. He’s proven our evaluations correct. Those who disagreed may want to reconsider how they evaluate. Plus we had Vick under contract going in to the draft, so regardless of who started we already had the #2 QB on the roster.

          • Bdawkbdawk

            Thanks for elaborating.
            Vick did not finish 2010 on a down note. He was pretty much the only reason we had a chance to beat the packers on the final drive. Vick had a high variance career and a significant number of people around the league thought after 2010 he could have turned the corner (he improved, but the corner turning thing was a bs narrative). 2011 was injury riddled and dissapointing.”Ghastly number of turnovers” is bad hyperbole. Vick had an 84 QB rating in a collapsing Andy Reid offense. But to your overall point Vick didn’t play well.
            ….
            Foles showed precisely enough promise to be given a chance to compete for the starting spot. Very Good QB is a stretch. I read every single comment on every single article on this site. I’m glad you feel vindicated by Foles’ success, but you didn’t see something that 1000s of very smart talent evaluaters around the NFL didn’t see. The single greatest component of Foles’ success has been Chip Kelly’s offense. No one predicted that Kelly would have crafted an offense so brilliant, and Foles would execute so well within its bounds before the offense was created.
            ……
            One day while walking home from school, I told my brother that my mom was cooking pasta for dinner. I didn’t know it at the time time, but indeed she was cooking pasta that night. Didn’t mean I was a psychic. This self righteous Foles backslapping is a testament to one thing. With how often Philadelphians crow to “put in the white guy”, eventually one would be good enough to lead the team.

          • Andy124

            Way to blow any chance of reasonable discourse by playing the race card. I’m out.

          • Bdawkbdawk

            If you want to ignore my points about NFL scouting because of some “Race Card” BS then go ahead. But how is what I said playing the race card? For years people were trying to replace Mcnabb with Feely, then Garcia, then Kolb. If you don’t think that is a good way of characterizing your impressions, thats fine. But for you to pretend this phenomen does not exist in Philadelphia is asinine. My family has been purchasing season tickets for the last 55 years. We are caucasion. I have never been more embarassed by racism than at football games. Not just Eagles fans – football fans. I don’t think its absurd to suggest that a lot of the Foles self-congratulation is akin to people wanting Garcia to play instead of McNabb. You’re free to disagree. Preferably like an adult.

          • Bdawkbdawk

            And just so we’re clear I’m referring to the self-congratulatory aspect of it. Not the fact that Foles should be starting. Foles should definately be staring over Vick. It just seems hilarious that people are saying they knew Foles could be a very good starting NFL QB when you wouldn’t have been able to find two people in the NFL who shared that opinion prior to the Kelly install.

          • Bdawkbdawk

            Nick Foles was a value pick. I say we continue to draft players when we identify value. I think our scouts are pretty good.

          • Explorer51

            Barkley will be the backup QB next year, with a fully healed shoulder and a Foles skill set.

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t doubt it, and if it’s true, then I def don’t want to waste a pick these next two years on a QB when we can use it building a stacked team

        • BlindChow

          He was put on IR earlier this year.

          • GEAGLE

            Thanks..I figured something was up for his name being so forgotten

  • levdog

    The highlight of the game was the reaction of Jerry Jones after the interception by Boykin. He walked away from the camera toward the back of his box and yelled some expletive as his box erupted in anger. It so much fun to beat Dallas.

    • GEAGLE

      My favorite part of the night, was Jerry!!!…seeing Lurie smile is just as creepy…dude looks like a Charecter from the Twilight saga

      • cliff henny

        with his little asian washy washy wife…made me like him more

        • GEAGLE

          Lol yeah I have to admit Boss status when I see it!!!

        • Explorer51

          You make tons of great comments but no need to resort to stereotypes Cliff…

          • cliff henny

            my apologies, it’s more the age difference than the nationality. to each his own, but it really does stick out when they show owners box. was watching game with my family, and they all said at same time ‘who’s the asian women?’

          • GEAGLE

            I friggin despise living in a world where you have to appologize for a joke…I’m Italian, feel free to make any harmless joke at the expense of my nationality..soft sissy society

          • Joe from Easton

            Filthy W.O.P.! I’m one too, no worries.

          • devCal

            italian nazi collaborator.

          • Explorer51

            Birds 24/7 is such a great site and the comments section, including prolific guys like you, make it even better; on the few occasions a negative ethnic, etc comment is written (even in jest) it just stands out because of the terrific football stuff here. I’ll read most of the Philly.com articles but I avoid the posts, lots of hateful sh*t that detracts from the exciting experience of this Eagles team. Thanks for the quick response.

          • theycallmerob

            I’m gonna start treating it like youtube.

            RON PAUL 2012

    • Jason

      Don’t forget about little Spaulding ripping off his sweater

      • Joe from Easton

        best moment ever! You’ll get no division championship and like it, Spalding!

  • Will

    [URL=http://www.makeagif.com/vEb1wD][IMG]http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/12-30-2013/vEb1wD.gif[/IMG][/URL] Worth one more look, Thanks Brandon Boykin for killing any FG hopes!

  • Jason

    Shanahan fired, one sour note for the day

    Edit: Maybe they hire Hasselet

    • cliff henny

      please please pleeeeeease hire briles out of baylor. just what rg3 and me needs, to never develope. least ‘skins fans bs about getting first for cousins was shot in crapper yesterday. 19-49 for 160 yrd…that’s tough to do on purpose

      • GEAGLE

        So true…if they further baby him with his college coach, you can practically forget about the RGme era….imagine RG3 having to handle what FOles handled and persevering lol

        • cliff henny

          given 2 choices- one ok one bad…i’ll assume snyder will find a choose a 3rd gawd awful solution

      • Token

        Never got where the Cousins hype came from. Outside of a few drives in his career, hes looked like a bum.

        Snyder will get another retread coach. Probably Lovie Smith.

        • Andy124

          Someone on here said they’d take Kirk over Foles at one point. Anybody remember who?

          • nicksaenz1

            probably #7

          • Jason

            His college coach

          • Andy124

            It’s funny because it’s true. But his college coach doesn’t post on here though.

          • Jason

            Why not? Andy Reid does. Or are you telling me you aren’t the real Andy

          • Andy124

            Well, I need to put my keyboard in a better position there.

          • cliff henny

            if his handle was Andy424lbs. reid looks like he’s about to explode

        • Maggie

          Smith is known for his defenses, so as long as they don’t hire a really good offensive coordinator or QB guru, it shouldn’t make much difference.

    • GEAGLE

      Nooooooooooo!!!!!!

  • Will

    Yeah Baby were in the play offs, what a year so far!

  • Joe from Easton

    I think the take away of the day is another game where Foles was “okay” and yet posted a passer rating in the mid 120′s. If that’s “okay” then damn. Just, damn.

    • cliff henny

      nope,he’s 24, 15 starts, coach that obviously cant maximaize talent, has shown no improvement…his a finished product, probably get worse.

      • GEAGLE

        Too slow to play QB for Chip

        • Andy124

          Arm’s too weak. Can’t make NFL throws.

          • Explorer51

            Makes Shady fail…

          • Joe from Easton

            He’s charlie check down, don’t ya know? One of only handful of players to post a 9+ YPA for a season in the modern era certainly proves that.

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahahaha geez!! Funny how we fancy ourselves a knowledgable fanbase, and we have a know it all media..

            Wondering if sports radio is going to negative today because we didn’t win by 30 lol

          • Joe from Easton

            Of course they will. Did you hear Collinsworth last night? It’s like he had blinders on! He had no clue what he was even talking about. “foles under pressure does this this and this…” Foles is the highest rated QB in the league. He’s got excellent numbers against the blitz. The fact is our O-Line was about steadfast as the colander that I drained my rigatoni in last night. The whole game it was nothing but praise for the boys. It made me sick to listen to.

          • GEAGLE

            Micheals was way worse…like he was openly upset when we made a play lol

          • GEAGLE

            Kids been throwing LASERS this past month

          • Jason

            Did you forget the satire of this entry?

          • GEAGLE

            Can’t help it, he is SOOO dreamy lol. Waited my ENTIRE eagles fandom for this kid!!! NO MORE running around like chicken with our heads cut off. No more leading a mass genocide against Worms. no more can’t read defense. No more passive aggressive, poor persecuted Nick…no more lack of accountability…no more lack of leadership

          • Andy124

            Psh. not lasery enough.

          • Joe from Easton

            He has some bullets last night. That throw to Avant over the middle to move the chains is the one that comes to the forefront of my mind.

          • Tikkit

            I think the problem is Chip Kelly’s offense. It’ll never work in the NFL. Spurrier 2.0

          • Andy124

            Yeah, not going to be able to just out-talent everybody like he did at Oregon with all of his 5-start recruits.

  • GEAGLE

    How many teams have a better young chore then the Eagles?
    Shady 25
    FOles 24
    Cox barely 22
    Logan
    Ertz
    Lane
    Thornton
    Kendrick
    Boykin
    Curry
    Wolff
    ..
    Not many teams better set up for the future then us

    • Jason

      Seattle is the only one close

      • GEAGLE

        If we compare to Seattle, we are doing something right :)

        • Jason

          Don’t want to compare, want to beat them. There fans are at an all time worse right now

          • GEAGLE

            If a team is going to beat them at home, practicing with loud music, not being able to communicate every day for 8 months seems like a good start…can’t dismiss that when you look at our road warrior record

    • cliff henny

      and howie has cap set up to keep any and all these guys, plus kelce cooper and fletcher, and space to go out and handpick impact players. plus, chip is young. he just turned 50. should have 10 great yrs of his prime. this was the year to get the eagles, it aint gonna get easier over next 3-5 yrs

      • GEAGLE

        This is the early stages of something special…a blind man could see it

      • nicksaenz1

        my hope is that Chip builds such a great culture that we actually can keep all of our young talent because people would take discounts to stay instead of leave for the money only to be miserable in a new system

        • GEAGLE

          We are about to find out!!! Just watch The Cooper free agent situation,.,
          ,,
          Friggin Celek is on cloud 9…when you interview him, all he says is “I love this team”…it’s like he can’t even say anything else lol

        • cliff henny

          way nfl is set up, if you draft them and extend before player hits free agency, they all take discounts. think kelce wants to play in ’14 for 600k? if players show anything before 3 seasons are up, teams cant work around it. it’s when they flounder for 3 yrs and pop in 4th, like cooper.

          • nicksaenz1

            True, but those three years of suck were in a “pro” system. Most coaches wouldn’t want a guy who only succeeds in a “college” offense.

  • GEAGLE

    Let’s all make a promise that when we aquire our next free agents we won’t base our opinions on PFF stats lol

    • cliff henny

      nope, sorry, i base all my nfl opinions off of skip bayless, internet and dutch

      • Andy124

        Your sources suck. Mine are much better. I use Steven A Smith, portions of scouting reports that support my predetermined opinion, talk radio and unicorns.

        • cliff henny

          so, how much is cataldi flip flopping eating his words today? he had to be against kelly davis foles and most of free agents brought in

        • nicksaenz1

          Take a trip to the Delta and yeast them all together and you have the final say on any/everything football related.

      • GEAGLE

        Lol….my blood pressure can’t handle another free agency like last year when everyone said Barwin!Cary and Brad sucked…give me a break just for this offseason lol

        • Explorer51

          And don’t forget Donnie Longball…

  • nicksaenz1

    Man, I was just reading some of the ESPN articles and the one from Clayton, whom I normally don’t mind, about the NFC playoffs really aggrevated me. No love for Philly. Talks about all the rushing attacks in the NFC that the AFC doesn’t have and LeSean got NO mention at all. Can’t wait til Saturday, I really hope we pull it off.

    • GEAGLE

      I handled all our losses surprisingly well this year, but Saturday is such an opportunity to stick it to a lot of people, so I really want to win this one, then again we will just hear how the saints suck on the road

      • Brian

        If we win Saturday, “they” can say whatever they want to.

      • nicksaenz1

        Yeah, we definitely wouldn’t get any credit in a win on Saturday. Just a big Saints crappin the bed on the road again story. Not, Philly is a scary, up and coming team.

    • theycallmerob

      when I read that, I got the impression he wrote 99% of it before the PHI-DAL game. I mean, how could he leave out Shady when talking about RBs?

      • nicksaenz1

        Didn’t think of it. Fair point. Guess we’ll never really know. They can edit, though.

  • Brian

    This morning, on WIP, Chip Kelly said, “Nick Foles is perfect for this offense”. Yes he is… Yes he is.

    • GEAGLE

      After the game, Micheal barkin said! soon we will find out what Chip wants to do about QB next year…Ed RENDELL,Didinger,Westbrook laughed at him, acting like he was crazy…”what more do you want”?

      • cliff henny

        he fumbled! kill him!!!!

        • GEAGLE

          No,he brought shame on his family…he should have to Hari Kari kill himself with a sword, samurai style for shaming this organization

  • travis papa

    Belichek already solved Graham. He put talib on him & played physical man to man all day. Graham had 0rec for 0yds. Let Williams be himself & get physical shadowing him all day. Boykin & Fletcher can handle the rest. Other times you could have barwin check him at the line & release him to Boykin a safety hopefully Wolff or kendricks. Kendricks should be mainly responsible for Sproles out of the backfield & ryans on Thomas. That allows atleast 4 to rush & occasionally bring Kendricks or ryans. Any play or scheme that matches Chung up man to man with their best player should be torn out shredded & burned.

  • Eagles4Life

    HELL OF A GAME. I’m here in Dallas and there was nothing better than hearing the air come out of the bar on that last interception. Dallas brought it last night defensively. Amid all the great things, our offense has to do just a bit more come this weekend in a game that plays out like it did yesterday. The second half numbers weren’t pretty, but I’m sure Chip will be ready to empty the playbook if we need to on Saturday.

  • SVPhilly

    You guys and gals are the best commenters ever. Made my morning out here on the west coast. Go eagles!

  • Kev_H

    I love it. Foles is the difference maker between the previous 40 games and the last 8. But if people couldn’t envision young players improving with more experience under a new coach, they missed a great story while harping on irrelevant minutiae.

    • EaglePete

      amen, we all harp from time to time but nobody should let that get in the way of enjoying the show while its happening.

  • Loke1988

    Nick Foles is the best thing to happen to the Eagles in a long long time. And for that I am thankful.

  • Van Buren

    TO ALL EAGLES FANS: WHAT DO WE DO?….
    We all must ask ourselves and Coach Kelly but one question. Moving forward is Nick Foles the QB for us? As much as well all love Nick, and as great as his performance has been this year, he is not the right QB for Chip’s system? Multiple times last night I saw the pocket collapse, and NIck complete inability to escape even just the box. The man just cannot move.
    And who is to say that this performance level will transfer to future seasons, my bet is it doesn’t. What about a trade. To Clevland, Houston, JAX. SELL HIGH on him, get a a high first rd. pick. get somebody like Johnny Football, Bridgewater, Bortles. SOMEBODY WHO CAN MOVE! And then go defense the rest of the way. Imagine this offense with a QB that’s got some legs.
    Of course, if the BIrds make a run in the playoffs and Nick can come up big in clutch situations (win 1 or 2 games) the answer is easy. Keep him. But I think it is a question worth asking. What could we look like with a mobile QB? Would it be even better than what we see now? Is this even a possibility? Am I being completely cynical and selfish?
    Just food for thought. GO DAMN BIRDS!