DeSean, a Roster Move And Playoff Odds

NFL: Philadelphia Eagles at Minnesota Vikings

DeSean Jackson met with reporters today and said he’s moving on from Sunday’s incident on the sideline.

“Yeah, it’s over and done with,” he said. “We’re moving forward. It’s a new week, new game, so we already discussed that.”


Asked if he regrets what happened, Jackson said: "Regret? It's part of the game. I probably could have handled things differently. But I'm not really gonna get into too much of that. Going forward, worry about the Chicago Bears."

Jackson is playing his first season for new wide receivers coach Bob Bicknell. He was asked how that relationship is developing.

"It's still an open relationship," Jackson said. "It's still getting to know each other, still early on. It's been a couple months since we've been here together. The biggest thing is playing football and doing the things you need to do to win football games."

Jackson had 10 catches for 195 yards against Minnesota.

EAGLES ADD JOHNSON, RELEASE ACHO

The Eagles have signed safety Keelan Johnson from the practice squad and released linebacker Emmanuel Acho.

Johnson (5-11, 212) is an undrafted rookie out of Arizona State. He originally signed with the Dolphins, but was released and caught on to the Eagles' practice squad before the season.

Safeties Kurt Coleman (hamstring) and Colt Anderson (knee) suffered injuries Sunday and did not participate in today's practice. Earl Wolff (knee) sounds confident that he'll be ready to go.

"If we had a game today, I'd probably play," Wolff said. "I feel better than I did Sunday. Sunday when I went out there, still felt like it was kind of sore. But today I practiced and felt really well, so hopefully it'll feel the same way Sunday and I'll be ready to go."

PLAYOFF ODDS

Despite their loss Sunday, the Eagles' playoff odds actually went up 3.6 percent, according to Football Outsiders. They now have a 70.7 percent chance of playing in the postseason.

There's a 49.8 percent chance the Eagles are the No. 3 seed and a 20.8 percent chance they get the No. 4 seed. The most likely first-round opponent would now be the Saints, who have a 36.0 percent chance of getting the No. 6 seed. The Panthers are at 30.4 percent, and the 49ers are at 25.3 percent.

The only other potential first-round opponent is the Cardinals (8.3 percent).

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  • FMWarner

    After seeing the Saints on the road against the Jets, Seahawks and Rams in the last six weeks, I’m not gonna mind that matchup at all.

    • GEAGLE

      Any team who can’t play on the road is soft, and I welcome the opportunity to make a name off of them

  • Drew Brees

    After seeing the Eagles defense play the Vikings, I’m not gonna mind that matchup at all.

    • Drew Brees Mom

      Shut up boy! I taught you better than to talk trash. I hope you have a good game son but in Chippah we trust and you suck away from home. You must miss my chowder.

  • Realistic Guy

    I’m a big Eagles fan like the rest of ya, but people on this blog are so ridiculously nearsighted. Even before last week, everyone taking about how excited they are about the playoffs like its a foregone conclusion. Newsflash: we could lose to the Bears, and the way our secondary looked on the road last week, I’m worried about going into Dallas in Week 17..

    • G_WallyHunter

      Yup, just remember, this is 1000% better than expected, what I keep telling myself anyways.
      Marshall, Alshon, Forte, jesus just scary,
      I figure the only way Eagles win this is by getting enough pressure on that piece of crap Cutler and preventing him from getting the time needed (which he doesn’t need too much of with those two beasts), and/or offense having a huge game and keeping up with their offense all game. The Eags secondary is going to collapse we can rely on that, why I say the front-7 play will be oh so crucial. Cox, Thornton, Logan have to cause RUCKUS, gonna be exciting

      • GEAGLE

        Cutler will get his….we win this game by them not being able to stop our Run, Ertz taking advantage of their safety and our Defense capitalizing on the hand full of opportunities Cutler gives opposing Defenses to come up with a turnover…

        I like FOles chances at turning it over less than Cutler does..when that happens, we win…

        Like Eli, Cutler ain’t the type to throw it out of bounds or take the sack. He thinks his cannon arm can bail him out of every situation..this is one of those games YOU DONT EVEN WANT SACKS!!! You want Cutler force balls and throw it sooner than he wants…when that happens, Alshon and Marshall will come down with a few, but our defense will come down with a few also….If Our offense and ST take care of the ball, we win this one

        • anon

          Not if we can’t score!

          • GEAGLE

            Ok

          • aub32

            Come on. Don’t be silly. We can put up points against that D. Will it be enough? I don’t know, but we will put up points.

          • anon

            That’s what i’m saying — can we score enough.

        • Beavis

          This games reminds me of the Arizona game. The Cards had the better D, the Bears the better weapons on O. Balances out.
          But the next two weeks will be similar and we should be able to win each game handily. The Bears dominated Dallas. The Bears lost to the Redskins, were manhandled by the Rams and barely edged out the Browns.
          If the Eagles can’t beat these two teams when it matters most, they simply don’t belong in the playoffs.
          But I agree that when Week 1 rolled around, we would have all been thrilled to know the Eagles would be playing meaningful football in Week 16 with a chance to finish 10-6 atop of the division.

    • Tom w

      Relax. Sky isn’t falling. People on this site are actually pretty tame and realize this year is just gravy. And if cowboyz win at 1pm the bears game doesn’t mean much … I’d sit some guys and avoid injury.

      • aub32

        I think Chip will want the 3 seed.

        • BlindChow

          Even if seeding weren’t an issue, I think he’d still play his starters. After the way they played against the Vikings, I doubt he’d give them time off. It seems like it would be completely antithetical to his “every week is the super bowl” philosophy.

      • anon

        I don’t think any season is gravy. Everyone is just a play away from an injury, McCoy could blow out a knee next game, same with Foles — gotta take everything you can get when you can get it.

      • morgan c

        Amen. This has now become my exclusive source of Eagles news. I can’t even go to Philly.com anymore and see the comments. It’s so insane it’s sad.

    • Adam

      There’s a chance we might lose, there’s a chance we might win. Just enjoy the ride man.

      • #7

        I hear you on that

      • https://www.skinnypost.com/ GayleSaunders

        Exactly!…if anyone thought the Eagles would be in this position at the beginning of the year they deserve a big ol cookie…but the reality… the ride has been nice.

    • GEAGLE

      I’m going to watch Eagles in the playoffs…I don’t know what YOU are doing but I’m watching Eagles playoff football in January….

      • anon

        Watching replays on ESPN Classic? Having that mentality is why we got jocked by the Vikings last week.

        • GEAGLE

          Haven’t you gotten the hint yet, that I won’t spend much time responding to you.

          • anon

            I’m not saying we won’t playing late into the post season. I’m just saying you have to take every game a game at a time. There’s no guarantee that we win again this year.

          • GEAGLE

            You Dont say? Brilliant. Thank you, we had no idea. We never heard that before

          • aub32

            You’re kind of wasting your time. Geag thinks we are SB bound. He probably has already forgotten that we lost on Sunday. He remains optomistic, which isn’t too bad a thing. Because if he’s wrong he can just fall back on believing in the team and any disagreement means you think they suck and aren’t a true fan.

        • BlindChow

          GEAGLE’s enthusiasm had no effect on the Eagles losing to the Vikings imho.

          • anon

            I’m saying the players had the same mentality, which is why we got jocked. Just reminding everyone that it’s any given sunday.

          • GEAGLE

            It’s all my fault. Put the loss on me

  • Pickles McGillicuddy

    I’m praying for San Francisco.

    • #7

      You must be crazy

      • Richard Colton

        Im with you on this one. Much rather play the Saints at the Link or Carolina than the 49ers.

        • #7

          I don’t want to see Carolina either. Other than my Eagles (with Vick at QB), Carolina is my pick to go the the SB for the NFC. McDermot, the guy that Philly hated, has that defense playing at a HIGH level and has that secondary playing way above their heads

          • theycallmerob

            you are aware there has been a QB change, correct?

          • Chris

            He’s in deep, deep denial.

          • theycallmerob

            astounded by the ignorance today. I just can’t take it anymore

          • aub32

            There is ignorance on both sides. I don’t see anyone trying to bring Adam back to his senses.

          • Andy124

            I don’t see anyone trying to bring Adam back to his senses.

            False. I saw you do exactly that. :)

          • aub32

            I habe to disagree here. First, I’m not really sure why you added Vick. I don’t care if for some odd reason all 3 QBs were kidnapped and James Casey took us to the SB. Second, that secondary isn’t really playing that well. It’s just the front 7 is so good that QBs have no time to make reads, which hurts when you can’t manufacture a run game.

          • #7

            Just my opinion. I’ll explain. Every QB that has won the SB in recent years made dynamic plays/throws/runs in the playoffs. Rodgers, Brees, Flacco, etc etc.

            I don’t see that with Foles. Not trying to attack him and I’m serious, but these guys won’t allow for any opinion that they deem is an attack against Foles. I believe that Vick can stiil play and gash D’s with his arm and legs. Just my opinion, but then they resort to name calling.

            I believe in Vick, his teammates do also. Foles is earning his stripes, and yes, Foles is doing that. Carolina’s front 7 is a terrible matchup for our line and if the Vikes can easily sack Foles 4 times being a 3-9 team at the time…I would say that Carolina would be confident against us. Let me say again although it will be ignored. If Foles plays well, f’in great but I’m not putting him in the HOF like they are…and it’s funny because the majority of these guys didn’t even want Foles and wanted to try to get a 2nd for him. Right Richard Colton, and Token? Yeah that’s right.

          • aub32

            I disagree. Foles didn’t struggle due to pressure. There wasn’t anything that I saw different about coverage. He just had a bad game. He was off. Now considering how he bounced back last time he was off, I am interested to see what he can do against a bad Bears defense. I think you are wrong when you say Foles can’t make the big plays. He has been doing just that all year. In fact, in my opinion he is completely different from the dink and dunk guy we saw last season. His issue is consistency. Though Vick has that same problem. I agree that Vick can get hotter and do more when hot, but Foles had made some very good decisions with the ball and is working that screen game. I think this team has a chance with either guy as long as Kelly is the coach.

          • #7

            aub32 I can go with that, but let me be more clear. I’m talking stick throws in tight windows. That is playoff football. Have to make those throws and haven’t seen that as much with Foles. He’s throwing more screens and dump offs more than people think and hey it does work. Foles has made some big plays and I should have been more clear.

            As for the pressure part, he was sacked 4 times and that cuts down possesions for us that we need, especially with the lightning fast 3 and outs especially in the 4th q of many games this year. I say that he was affected to pressure on some of those wild throws where he didn’t set his feet on hurried throws…due to pressure

          • theycallmerob

            stick throws in tight windows

            I can’t help it. More facts!
            * In 6 postseason games, Vick has had a 56% comp. rate. Under 7 YPA. 5 TD:4 INT.
            http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VickMi00/gamelog/post/

            Please elaborate on your better option.

          • #7

            Take a look at those rosters son. Wasn’t no DeSeans and Maclins and Ertz’s on those Falcon teams.

            i don’t care about stats. On his back to the NFCG. You can’t debate that. Who cares how’s it done as long as you get there. i want to see Foles put the city on his back. And no excuses about his amount of games. Vick did this in his second year and admittedly didn’t take the game as seriously as he should have at that time.

            Not the best approach of course, but he got the job done. Foles does that, I might shut the f up, kinda

          • Andy124

            So, you’re saying Vick put the team on his back and carried them in the playoffs when his stat line was:
            13/25 for 117 yards. 52% completions. A whopping 4.68 yards per attempt. 1 touchdown pass and a passer rating of 78.3. 64 yards rushing with no rushing touchdowns, so a total of 181 yards. All while leading his offense to a whopping 20 points. That’s what impresses you?! That’s what you think is better than Foles is capable of? I’ll tell you what, if our defense holds the other team to 7 points, our special teams score a touchdown, and Foles leads us to a win whle accumulating under 200 yards of total offense and scoring 1 touchdown, then will you say he put the city on his back and sing his praises for the next 11 years?

            The DEFENSE and SPECIAL TEAMS held GB to 1 touchdown, picked off Favre twice and scored a touchdown on a blocked punt. They are what carried Atlanta to that 1 measly playoff win in 2002.

            Oh by the way, it was 2004, his 4th year when they made it to the NFCCG, not his second year. Vick accumulated a whopping 201 yards of total offense in that game. Again, didn’t exactly carry the team on his back there.

          • #7

            2nd, 4th, whatever. Yes he did. That roster was below average and people that know football knows it.

            Who cares about stats? Did they win? Yes. Did Vick make timely plays when needed? Yes. Which is the QB’s job sir. So what it wasn’t 400 yards. It’s Green Bay in January. No QB is going in the in the cold and throwing for 400 yards and if there is some, it’s very few. The Falcons were giving zero chance to win that game and if I remember correctly GB was undefeated at home in the playoffs at that time. I hope Foles can do the same.

            You always come with your stats, but it doesn’t always mean everything and when Foles has a game where he clearly struggled at times (normal…and even Shiel said so) you say “the stats don’t mean anything”. Quit being a hypocrite and pull for the team. People can have a difference of opinion on what we think is best for the team. We all want to win.

            I hope Foles does well too he’s just not Montana to me like you people try to force down people’s throats

          • Andy124

            When the defense and special teams score as many points as they allow, the QB did not put the city on his back as you claim. He did not carry the team to victory as you claim. His TEAM won a game. He was part of it. But he did not do what you are insisting Foles has to do.

            And I would never say “the stats don’t mean anything”. They don’t tell the whole story, but they don’t lie either.

          • #7

            Lol ok man. Man I live in Atlanta. I know the feel of the city when it was done. You don’t. So your opinion is nothing, and apparently you surely didn’t watch the game.

            You all good with me though Andy124. You try to keep it real, but you’re woozy on that spiked Foles kool-aid. We will see what he has the next two games, hopefully POs, and next season for sure, and Chip might still draft a QB. And on that note, Vick will most likely leave and Foles should have the job draft pick or not.

            See? Humility there. Would like some from you for once instead of bashing.

          • #7

            And I’ll give you an up vote

          • #7

            You win the game by any means necessary. Let Foles have a game like that and he’s “gutsy” and “smart”. Let Vick do the same at around the same age as Foles, and a Superstar without really knowing the passing game intimately, take you one game from the SB, and you call him average lol. Man you done woke me up. Your argument with your “stats” is laughable.

            John Elway has a career 79.9 Qb rating and he’s a legend…and not comparing the two at all. 56.9 career comp %. Who cares about numbers man lol. If you want to discuss for real, you can skip me with your stats. I couldn’t give two shits about numbers

          • Andy124

            i want to see Foles put the city on his back. And no excuses about his amount of games. Vick did this in his second year

            You said Vick put the city on his back and carried his team to the NFCCG in his second year. He did no such thing. Not only were you wrong about him getting to the NFCCG in his second year, he did not remotely put the city on his back for the one playoff win they did have that year. It’s not some crazy stat manipulation showing this. Their defense and special teams won that game.

            Oh and guess what. In the playoff game he lost that year, he put up yards (which you clearly don’t care about) but threw 2 interceptions. If Foles completed less than 60% of his passes, threw 2 picks and no touchdowns and lost by 14 points in a playoff game, would you say he choked? Would you call for the backup?

          • #7

            They lost to a better team. That’s what happens in pro sports. We know all about that don’t we?

        • aub32

          If CAR wins this weekend, that’s what we could be looking at. NO at the Linc and then @ CAR. Let the NFCW duke it out and beat themselves up.

  • Nick Folds

    Would have liked to see Foles step in there during the DeSean fiasco, but he just stood on the side. I would rather have Vick as our QB as Minnesota has put out the blueprint on how to shut down Foles.

    Jam the WRs and make him hold the ball. With Vick in there, we could still get positive yards and move the chains. We will be one and done with Foles as the starter, if we get in with him at QB. Hoping that Chip will put Vick in if Nick is struggling against the Bears.

    • Richard Colton

      As trolls go, B+ effort. If you want the “A” – you’re going to need to include some oddly specific meaningless stats, e.g. “Mike Vick has a QB rating of 75 vs. teams named after animals who have left handed Centers.” If you need help, check out any of BBaaS’s posts.

      • #7

        He’s a troll because his point of view is different? Expected more from you Richard

        • Richard Colton

          About as legitimate an opinion as asking Chip to sit Kelce for Vandevelde. Nobody, outside of a shrinking group of Vick diehards, would suggest it. Its not an opinion, its messianic.

          • #7

            Uh I would call them Eagle diehards myself. We all want to win at the end of the day

          • GEAGLE

            You clearly don’t….if you really do want to win, then after reading what you write, I Genuinly feel sorry for you….it would suck to spend so much time on something, that I’m so clueless about..I feel for u

          • theycallmerob

            HOW CAN YOU BE SO DUMB
            LOOK AT WHAT YOURE TYPING
            I;M USING CAPS CAUSE OF THE DUMB

            if you want to win, you play the QB that’s winning. god, just get the f*ck out of here already. beyond asinine at this point

          • #7

            Bi… he’s already playing. Shut the f up then and don’t respond

          • Adam

            Just a few more weeks Rob.

          • #7

            And will still be here. I see clowns posts where you’ve supposedly “ran me off” lol. What happened to that plan? Shit didn’t work.

            Go Eagles

          • Adam

            And the Eagles will be in the playoffs. Don’t flatter yourself son.

          • #7

            Woman I called that back in OTAs when your were crying for Bridgewater. take that p… ass response somewhere else.

          • Adam

            Please point out one single time when I’ve said anything about Bridgewater. I’ll wait here.

            In the mean time here’s a nice chin you can fantasize about, since you seem to love them so much.

          • #7

            Show me how to clean it up. Let me learn from the Master Chin Cleaner

          • theycallmerob

            so what’s your shtick next year? bring back Dixon? sign Vick when (fill in bad team ____) cuts him? trade for Joe Webb?

          • BlindChow

            Ooh, Joe Webb, I hear he’s pretty good…

          • theycallmerob

            only on Tuesdays

          • #7

            Nah, I said it before. You’re not paying attention nor reading..again.

            Vick will not be back next season. Said it a thousand times already

    • #7

      You’re a brave one youngster. Stand your ground!!

    • BlindChow

      Yeah, I’m pretty sure Dallas already “put out the blueprint on how to shut down Foles.” Remember that game? The one after which he threw 7 TD’s faster than any quarterback in history?

      If your defensive blueprint is tied to hoping the opposing QB misses open receivers and doesn’t have any run plays called, then I like our chances.

      • Nick Folds

        Hmmm all of the QBs in the league that played the Raiders have killed the Raiders. Not knocking Foles on that game, but even Foles himself said that he can’t explain that game. Look it up

        • BlindChow

          Oakland’s defense was well-regarded at the time we played them. All the QB’s who played them? Andrew Luck only put up 180 yards. Alex Smith put up 128. Even Romo only put up 225. And the Cowboys LOVE to pass.

          The point is the Foles haters claimed after Dallas that the “blueprint” to stop him was out. Oops. It must really suck to have to wait so long between bad games to get a chance to gloat…

          • Andy124

            It must really suck to have to wait so long between bad games to get a chance to gloat…

            Totally disagree with you Chow. They clearly weren’t waiting for another bad game. An average game was all the excuse needed. :)

          • Nick Folds

            How was it a good game if we lost? Oh…Foles is still developing. Sorry I forgot

          • Andy124

            So you’re saying Vick was bad against San Diego? And basically, bad 4 out of his 6 games this year?

          • theycallmerob

            yes, all the greats go undefeated. Take Vick for example.

          • Nick Folds

            LMAO. Whew…I needed that laugh. Thanks man

          • aub32

            I don’t remember anyone saying Dallas found the blueprint, unless the blueprint is to concuss the QB. Dallas left guys wide open Foles just stunk that day. (Please don’t kill me. I said that day)

          • BlindChow

            I agree, and that was my point: Foles was off; he wasn’t shut down because a defensive coordinator cracked the Foles Code (which is what the OP was claiming above re: the Vikings game).

          • aub32

            Agreed. I don’t think there is a code to cracking Foles, other than hitting him nonstop like every other QB ever. To me it’s not about Foles. The key is stopping Chip’s offense. Even in our bad games, the offense had plenty of chances to put up impossible numbers. All it takes is execution. Foles can execute. My reluctance toward Foles is I believe there will be QBs who can execute more of Chip’s offense.

          • #7

            Hits crack the code to any QB. Chip’s offense is QB friendly obviously and that why I stand by my point that we would be in the same position if Vick were playing or better. You just don’t like that coming from me lol.

            Chip’s offense has been QB friendly since the NH days. Is that not a fact?

          • theycallmerob

            aub, no one will disagree with that. It’s rational.

          • aub32

            After the ruckus I caused yesterday, (You’re welcome for all the posts Tim & Sheil) I figure I can be much more rational today.

          • #7

            Uh you just want it said in the way that you want to hear it from someone you like. That simple.

          • anon

            Scheme had nothing to do with that? Foles called all the plays huh?

    • Tom w

      Dope. 400 yds and 100+ qb rating. Great book Get a life

      • #7

        Qbs happen to rack up yards in garbage time.

        And the Folseys still scream…400 yards and 3tds!!! Great game!! Even after clearly seeing that Foles was struggling out there. There was so much green grass in front of Foles that was left on the field its ridiculous

    • pjcostello

      *yawn*
      If giving him 428 passing yards and three touchdowns qualifies as the ‘blueprint on how to shut down Foles’, then by golly I think the Eagles have the blueprint for how to shut down Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and the rest of the league! LMAO. You Vick sycophants are positively, unapologetically PATHETIC. Seriously, man, get out of the basement and get laid or something.

      • anon

        look at the team we’re playing. we didn’t put up crazy numbers on a decent team.

        • #7

          They don’t want the truth.

          “They can’t handle the truth!!!”

      • #7

        428 means nothing if you lose, yet you guys are celebrating lmao

        • pjcostello

          No, we’re just not idiots like you Vick lovers. One of you morons posts something stupid, we reply to it factually, and we’re ‘celebrating’? Strawman, moron. Just go home, sit down and shut up already.

          • #7

            Why do we have to be idiots? Why the name calling? Well guess what, don’t be surprised if we see Vick again. The hits are piling up and Foles is getting up slower and slower. And not wishing injury like my boy Colton, pjcostello and the rest of their cronies

          • Adam

            Yes, we might see him again.

            In some garbage time to rest up Nick for the playoffs.

            Nick Foles 6-2
            Mike Vick 2-4

            More TD passes in his 8 starts this year than Vick has ever had in a whole season.

            That’s all you need to know. Just win baby.

          • #7

            Did Foles play the Bronchos (on the road) and KC (most dominant D in the league)?

            Nope.

            Not taking anything away from Foles, he had a hand in the wins, but just take another look at our schedule and take account to the players that were missing. And not Foles fault at all. Vick could have beat those teams too. McCoy would have gotten yards of course, but he would be better with Vick IMO.

            Bottom line is I’m glad we’re winning, predicted that we could make the playoffs while you were slobbing up college QBs

          • Adam

            You can’t beat teams when you’re on the trainers table.

            Shady is on record for the most yards in franchise history and broke the franchise record and his personal best for single game rushing yards while FOLES was at QB. So I don’t buy that crap.

          • #7

            I didn’t say that he couldn’t get yards with Foles. I said McCoy would be better with Vick. Our team rushing record wasn’t that great to begin with to be honest.

          • BlindChow

            The record took 54 years to break. And that includes 3 years with Vick and McCoy starting together. Just saying.

          • #7

            AR was our coach. We didn’t like running the ball. Is that not true?

            Take off the blindfold so you can see clearly

          • theycallmerob

            you really have an excuse for everything, don’t you? Vick has been the product of bad running games, coaching, talent, defense, and OL his entire career?

          • #7

            I would say everyone on here has excuses, including yourself. We take our own posts as not being excuses…so I’m not sure what you want me to do with that…

          • theycallmerob

            have you ever clicked on the links I sent you?
            logic. look it up. moving goalposts.
            you can’t argue, plain and simple. there is no coach in the world who would play Vick over Foles right now. Only you still fail to see that.

          • #7

            No need to now, but I can say this. There were people on this very site calling for Vick. I’m sure you missed that. Foles did what he was supposed to do. Good for him. If the guy struggles , bring Vick in for a spark. We need to get in the tournament. Any team can win. Good D, Bad D….just have to get hot at the right time. i just hope we haven’t peaked with Foles, but it sure seems that way.

            You guys keep saying “look at his stats” from the Vikes game, but he was struggling out there man. You can’t be man enough to admit that?

          • theycallmerob

            go ahead and fine 1 other NFL team that brings in the backup for a spark. Who keeps their starter on a short leash. I’ll wait.

            So he struggled. If Vick was pulled every game he “struggled”, his career would have been over years ago.

          • anon

            I guess the fact that McCoy through13 games had already eclipsed his career rushing attempts, or that we’re now in a zone running scheme make no difference. But you’re right Foles is the only reason the offense is working. You criticize #7 for being Vick loyalists but yall are the same when it comes to Foles — have more in common than you want to think.

          • theycallmerob

            But you’re right Foles is the only reason the offense is working.

            go ahead and find where I said that. I’ll wait.

            No one is criticizing the loyalty. Only when loyalty blinds logic.
            There is not a single reason or excuse or statistic you can point to that would convince anyone with a brain that Vick is better than Foles today.

          • anon

            That’s not the point i made. You’re arguing that Shady’s numbers have nothing to do with scheme — comparing them to his numbers on AR. When the biggest knock on AR is never running the ball.

          • theycallmerob

            Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not the one supposing that AR is the reason Vick and McCoy never broke a franchise record. What was Vick’s comp. % all those years? how many games missed for injury? TD:INT ratio? how about W-L record?

            That record stood for 54 years, not just since ’10. Vick is not some abstract player; we’ve seen him for a friggin decade. But no one has a memory.

          • anon

            I’m sorry we weren’t arguing whether Vick was the better passer, we were talking about McCoy’s production under Vick vs. Foles. I said you can’t ignore that AR was coach had a negative effect on stats – to which you replied “you have any answer for everything…”

          • theycallmerob

            this was his original post:

            I didn’t say that he couldn’t get yards with Foles. I said McCoy would be better with Vick.

            And get off the AR thing. McCoy had his previous career year under AR, broke 1000 yards twice. We ran a zone-block scheme when Mudd was here.
            So you’re willing to trade a slight upgrade in McCoy’s stats for the ineptitude of Vick? Really?

          • anon

            No i’m saying that McCoy’s uptick in run stats isn’t because of Foles it’s scheme based. I’m saying his numbers would have been the same or better with Vick i don’t think anyone would argue differently considering our use of RO.

          • theycallmerob

            again, I never said that.

            anon, i’m not here to beef with you. I don’t even get what you’re trying to say; I know the run game is good for many, many reasons, most of which don’t involve Foles.

          • #7

            Well you’re damn sure implying that with your “attacks”. Funny how you went from Mariota to Bridgewater (also tanking the season before we played a preseason game) to being Foles bodyguard.

            What an evolution. The you act all “holy than thou” on here, yet you resort to name calling like a little B when I called you ZERO names and never even shot a response to ANY post you made on here lol.

          • theycallmerob

            go on then. my posts are public. find where I said that. lemme guess…if I did, it was definitely when you’re boy was starting. Thankfully, we actually have a QB now. so it’s not an issue.

          • #7

            Alrighty then. You have the right to your opinion

          • theycallmerob

            no, please. go on. defend what you said. Find where I went from those guys to Foles. look it up.
            it’s what we all do- support what we say with facts. novel, I know.

          • #7

            All of those QB of the future talks on Vick threads? Cmon man. You’re one of the main bloggers on this site since it started like myself and I have a long memory. I don’t have to go searching cause you said so. I’m good thanks

          • theycallmerob

            no one cares for your memory.

            If you want to accuse me of something, quote it. Like I do for you all day.
            Otherwise, STFU.

          • BlindChow

            I don’t know, man, he seems pretty sure. I mean, a long memory? That’s pretty air-tight, if you ask me.

          • theycallmerob

            I don’t get it. Am I missing something? It’s gotta be dissociative identity, right? like one min. he posts something, and the next denies the very post just a few up-scrolls away?

            have I really done too many drugs? is this all a farce? should I go wash my chin?

          • pjcostello

            He’s too busy posting under several different identities, he cannot keep it all straight. Not your fault.

          • #7

            Take a look at yourself

          • #7

            I would love for you to try that lol. That would be awesome

          • Andy124

            Honest question, did anyone imply that McCoy’s uptick in run stats is because of Foles?

            I’m not confident such an uptick even exists on the whole, unless the huge Detroit game swung his averages up more than I thought.

          • Richard Colton

            Honest answer – it was gospel around Philly for weeks that the running game was more effective with Vick, because (according to conventional wisdom) his running threat was what kept defenses of balance. Then, you know, Nick Foles happened.

            Facts are stubborn things.

          • #7

            Ouch

          • Richard Colton

            was going to disagree with you, but the fact that #7 thinks you’re on to something should tell you how wrong you are.

          • #7

            If someone agrees with me, it’s wrong even if it’s facts lol.

            You people are straight up bullies…weak ones at that lol

          • #7

            All stemming from Nick Folds post sir. It’s right in front of you.

          • #7

            Zing! But they like you so you won’t get a response. Preciate you taking an objective view instead of spouting nonsense.

            I can’t understand this though, anon. I’ve never once said that I want the Eagles to lose.

            They wanted to tank the season, while I said we can compete.

            I want the f’ing Eagles to WIN and they have a problem with that. I make it a point to not even mention Vick’s name and they bring it to me and then get mad when I lay the smackdown on them and stand up to their so called bullying. So what that I think we could have won these games with Vick. Why in the hell is that a problem!!!????

            They always talk about worship and all that BS, but THEY are worshiping. You cannot not say ONE NEGATIVE, FACTUAL critique about Foles on here…but when one about Vick comes on the thread…you see up arrows everywhere.

            What?

            We all support the same team. It’s f;ing ridiculous. i would love to hear your rationale on this since you are accepted on here

          • Richard Colton

            Your first post of the day. You mention Vick four times in your first paragraph. Tell us another lie, you haven’t reached your daily quota.

            “To them, it’s not a team game when Vick is at QB. All of the focus was totally on Vick’s performance…against the two best teams in the NFL at that point of the season. Every team that FOles has beat had a star(s) missing. No AP, Rodgers, etc. WOW how lucky is that. I stand by what I said in a different thread. The results would be the same if not better with Vick. He would be benched if otherwise and I would have been fine with that. And McCoy would probably have 1500 yards if not more at this point. And not saying that McCoy can’t run without Vick. The man will get his yards regardless.”

          • pjcostello

            I guess Rodgers and AP are just awesome on defense, eh? Oh, wait…

          • #7

            All stemming from Nick Folds post sir. It’s right in front of you sir.

            See? I still call you sir, while you resort to name calling lol

          • Richard Colton

            says the racist homophobe – but hey, you got the sir part right. I’ll take it.

          • #7

            Aye aye sir

          • #7

            Please see the Nick Folds post that caused this thread to have over 300 comments in a couple of hours. Press the “up arrow” button to scroll or if you have a Mac just scroll up. Use a mouse I don’t give a damn lol

            Get you facts straight. But what IS a fact is that you thanked God for Vick’s injury. That is a fact

          • Richard Colton

            So you’re saying Nick Fold’s first post of the day was actually your first post of the day? I knew you were the same guy. Hard to believe two people could both be that stupid.

            faith in humanity restored

          • #7

            zzzzzzz

          • #7

            Did you not wish for Vick to get injured.

            Yes or no.

          • Richard Colton

            no

            I am however glad It happened, because now the franchise has direction. you know the difference between “wish that” and “glad that” right?

          • #7

            Richard Colton:

            My god. The mental gymnastics you
            do. a fluke injury? the turnovers? either drinking water from the
            Schuylkill made me psychic or I watched Vick for 14 years.

            Thank God for that “fluke” injury. Can you
            imagine how far back it would have set the franchise if Vick had started
            13 or 14 games?

          • Richard Colton

            clueless.

            I’m happy Vick got hurt – it helped the team. I didn’t wish injury on anyone. Pretty clear you don’t know the difference between past/future. Your Vick love is evidence of living in the past

          • #7

            Facts are facts. i don’t like doing the digging up shit thing…but there it is for you in bold.

            You have never seen me wish for Foles to get hurt. What kind of fan are you to wish an injury…or be happy about.

            I would call that a p.. ass fan myself

          • Richard Colton

            since youre in a digging mood – find me one post where I wished injury on anyone. you won’t. I guess saying I;m glad Wally Pip got hurt makes me a bad Yankees fan too, right?

          • theycallmerob

            “I make it a point to not even mention Vick’s name and they
            bring it to me and then get mad when I lay the smackdown”

            how can you not see how pathetic you are?

            I don’t want to see Carolina either. Other than my Eagles (with Vick at QB)

            I get that, but if Foles is struggling, why not get a spark from Vick? This is the same thing that would be said had Vick been struggling out there. As far as leadership goes, he doesn’t have to be a rah rah guy and Vick isn’t that either, but Vick was still leading on the sidelines while Foles was sipping on some water in the background. He needs to take hold of this team completely and he needs to get #10 in check instead of Vick and Avant having to do it. If he’s the future, it should be him and not Vick who will be out the door next season

            Well guess what, don’t be surprised if we see Vick again.

          • Adam

            Vick is all over his chin he must forget he’s there some times.

          • #7

            Can you come up with your own cutdowns? The chin thing is mine, remember? Be original

          • BlindChow

            Hey, I couldn’t help but notice you made all the Vick references extra-black.

            WHO’S THE RACIST NOW??

          • theycallmerob

            white font is too hard to read!

            plus, it slows the offense down, hinders the run game, and pads its stats with garbage time passes

          • #7

            Responded to a post..and THAT IS MY OPINION!!! What does it matter to you?? Why does it ruin your day???

            This isn’t a pro Foles blog. This is an OPEN blog sir and YOU do not own it. Geez

          • theycallmerob

            sure it’s open. Open for all to see your lies. Don’t mention Vick by name, huh?
            pathetic

          • #7

            I sure didn’t. I believe Nick Folds did that or someone else. I make it a POINT not to mention his name and it gets brought to me and that is a fact

          • theycallmerob

            ok then. Guess I’ll just re-post this.

            By the way, these are all yours.

            “I don’t want to see Carolina either. Other than my Eagles (withVick at QB)

            I get that, but if Foles is struggling, why not get a spark fromVick? This is the same thing that would be said had Vick been struggling out there. As far as leadership goes, he doesn’t have to be a rah rah guy and Vick isn’t that either, but Vick was still leading on the sidelines while Foles was sipping on some water in the background. He needs to take hold of this team completely and he needs to get #10 in check instead of Vick and Avant having to do it. If he’s the future, it should be him and not Vick who will be out the door next season

            Well guess what, don’t be surprised if we see Vick again.”

          • #7

            And this talk has been going on since 7 this morning. You’re late.

          • anon

            Hahaha in the any Reid era, but whatever, tell the history you want. Shady was on part for a 2,000 yd year at the beginning of the season, i’m glad he went off in snow bowl.

          • Adam

            Not taking anything away from Foles

            That’s great.

          • #7

            10x better than you could do. If it were Vick, you would be critiquing Vick press conferences next.

            And not a peep on Foles playing great teams either. Foles lit up average/below average teams, but that’s not on him. Can’t help the schedule. Had Vick not had the fluke injury and lost to the teams we should be beating, I would call for Vick to be benched. I want to win, but your entire agenda for this season was for anyone to Qb the team besides Vick, even after he dominated the QB comp

          • Adam

            When you get injured every year for 10 years, they stop becoming fluke injuries. You’re in denial so bad it’s painful to watch man.

          • GEAGLE

            Classic

          • Andy124

            When Vick played against Denver he put up a rating less than what Denver allows on average, completed 52% of his passes against a team that allows an average of 59% and led the team to 13 points against a defense that allows an average of almost 27.

            When Vick played against KC he put up a rating of 49.4 and threw 2 picks (which by the way is as many as Foles has all year) against a team that is holding quarterbacks to a rating of about 75. That’s about 25 points less.

            When Foles played Minnesota he completed 1.5% less than Minnesota allows on average, had a rating 7 points higher than what Minnesota allows on average and equaled the number of points Minnesota allows on average.

            A rusty Vick isn’t going to provide more of a spark than Foles did, throwing for 244 in the last 18 minutes of the game. It would dismiss the rythm, undermine a young qb (which you would absolutely love) divide the locker room… it’s just a stupid, stupid idea and those who support it should be embarrassed.

          • anon

            The whole Vikings secondary was out!

          • #7

            Easy now. The truth is forbidden on here. It’s only truth if your post is positive towards Foles.

            “Anything else, is uncivilized” (Charles Barkley voice)

          • #7

            And should have beaten the Chargers. Coincidentally, we were on track to have the worst D in NFL history at that point of the season.

            I guess you’ll disagree with me on that too?

          • Adam

            We win more with Foles at QB. Shady rushes for more with Foles at QB. The D plays better when Foles is at QB. Everything is better when Foles is at QB.

          • #7

            I’m still searching for some stats where Foles is breaking up passes and making tackles. Still searching.

            Funny how you gave the coaches zero credit lol. Foles caused all of this to happen lol. Why didn’t you get Foles to get our kicker to kick the freaking ball out of bounds in a freaking dome?

          • Andy124

            Wait, so you’re saying it’s not Foles’ fault that the D gave up 48 against Minnesota? I guess he wasn’t that bad after all.

          • #7

            Maybe if Foles didn’t leave so many plays on the field with his wild passes the Vikes wouldn’t have had the chance to score 48. Fastest 3 and outs I’ve ever seen

          • Maggie

            Now you’re maybe reaching a little. Every offenses leaves plays on the field, every game.

          • #7

            But you can get some of them too.

          • aub32

            Come on dude. Now you are just making things up. Vick definitely helps Shady out more than Foles. Foles should be the QB based on other things. But let’s not get ridiculous. You are sounding a lot like what you are trying to combat against.

          • Adam

            Definitely? No. Not at all. Shady had the best game of his career with Foles in the game. And who honestly gives a damn? If Shady rushes for 20 more yards with Vick in the game, but Vick can’t stop turning the ball over or pass with the production that Foles does, we lose. We win with Foles. So you’re wrong, and even if you’re right, it’s meaningless.

          • aub32

            HAHAHAHA you are worse than 7 at this point. You were wrong, then called me wrong, then called me right but said it’s pointless. News flash, Vick scored more against SD and lost. So if Foles lost to the D, how is Vick’s lost not excused. Vick also lost to 2 of the top teams in the NFL. Foles has not faced near the level of competition of Denver or KC. Don’t get me wrong, Foles should start and played well, but you are being a tad silly by dismissing that Vick was doing well just to boost Foles. Can’t they both be good for this team?

          • #7

            Impossible!!!

          • GEAGLE

            I assume kordell Stewart was your favorite back in the day

          • #7

            Kordell sucked sir.

          • Andy124

            And maybe we would have. But Vick missed on a couple of bombs.

          • aub32

            He also had a FG missed, 2 TDs dropped, and another called back on a penalty (that wasn’t his fault unlike Mr. try and take out a defenders kness) Just saying if we want to be technical.

          • Andy124

            I think you know I don’t blame the SD loss on Vick. Trying to do so makes about as much sense as blaming the Minn. loss on Foles, which is the point I was getting at.

          • #7

            “And maybe we would have. But Vick missed on a couple of bombs.”

            You just made yourself look like an idiot. Wow. Now I say that Foles was wild against Minny, which is a fact, it’s a probem. What a hypocrite and a weak ass attempt at bullying.

            Fake ass Incognito

          • Andy124

            lol. Read my reply to aub.

          • aub32

            I know. I do think Vick played better in the SD game than Foles in MIN. Foles wasn’t Dallas bad, but he did made more than a few mistakes. The D didn’t help, but Foles also put up a lot of stats playing from behind, and his players made the tough EZ catches.

          • Andy124

            I do think Vick played better in the SD game than Foles in MIN.
            Well yeah.

            Foles wasn’t Dallas bad
            Foles wasn’t bad period. He wasn’t great either. Easily his second worst game of the season. I think anything from okmediocre to kinda goodpretty good is a fair assessment. We’ve kicked that horse quite a bit, so I’ll stop there.

            Foles also put up a lot of stats playing from behind
            How is this a demerit? It’s a good thing. It’s something people wanted to see if he could do, with T-Law being the most prominent to mention that. It’s a good thing that he was able to jump start a sluggish offense when the other team was scoring at will. View the Denver game as evidence of the opposite. As Denver kept scoring, the offense wilted. And these weren’t garbage time yards against prevent defense either. The outcome was still in doubt and both teams were still playing all out.

          • #7

            Every offense has wilted against Denver this year except for one team

          • Andy124

            Do you even think before you type? I’ll tell you what, instead of me explaining why you are wrong again, go do your own research and figure it out.

          • #7

            You go first. We would be here all day

          • GEAGLE

            That’s just insane…does he really have more TD passes in 8 games then Vick ever had in a season? If that’s true…
            wow! Just….WOW!

          • Adam

            Yep. He’s got 5 3+ TD games this season. Vick has 6 in his career.

          • Nick Folds

            So what? Folds had 400 yards and we lost. Take a look at Matthew Stafford youngster. All world yardage QB, but can’t win.

            Folds is going to have to carry this team on his back. Vick has been there and done that on a one man team. One game form the SB.

            I guarantee you Folds WILL NOT do that this year. GUARANTEED

          • Adam

            Nick Foles 6-2
            Mike Vick 2-4

            Vick couldn’t put a team on his back. He’d pull a hammy and would be out for the year.

          • Nick Folds

            Let’s see Folds do it. He’s young. Should be no issue for him, right?

          • Andy124

            GUARANTEED Vick won’t either. Nor did he after 14 starts.

          • #7

            It’s already been done…..

          • Andy124

            Another one of mine. Glad to see I’ve made an impression. WooHoo! :)

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahahah classic

          • Andy124

            I’ve been spouting that stat, but it’s not entirely true. It’s more touchdowns in 8 starts plus a half. :)

          • Adam

            Ah yes, I knew I got it from someone here! Kudos to you sir.

          • Andy124

            Thank you good sir.

          • Nick Folds

            Kleanex are 1.99

          • Nick Folds

            Zzzzzzz

            Playoff time is coming up. Put the city on your back Folds like your backup Vick has already done…and didn’t even study the playbook back then.

            Let FOles try that. Not to say that was the best thing to do. It wasn’t, but Folds couldn’t even complete a pass doing it that way. And let Folds “Fold” these last two games. It’s going to be exciting to see the excuses you ladies come up with. I’ll get you started.

            “It was Nate Allen’s fault!!”
            “It was Vick’s fault!!”
            “It was Billy Davis’ fault!!”
            “It was the kicker’s fault!!”

          • Richard Colton

            I refuse to admit you’re real. Seriously, who is this? Andy? Chow? Nick? Cliff? JR?

            You can’t possibly be this dumb and know how to use a computer.

          • Andy124

            I’m innocent!

          • #7

            We know it’s you Andy :)

          • #7

            LMAO damn man

          • GEAGLE

            WOW, just WOW!!! Andy has Offiially shut down the Vick debate forever… A veteran number one overall pick who has been playing forever, yet never threw more TDs then our inexperienced kid did, in 9 games in an offense he learned 8 months ago…
            ..
            WOW!!!
            ..
            If anyone ever tries to bait me on the Vick debate ever again, my response will always be: See Andy

          • #7

            I bet you can’t stick to that. Stats smats..who cares? Time for Foles to carry the team. That’s what big time QBs do, right?

            Yes or no.

            No excuses either with your “it’s only his second year” crap. Let’s see it Nick. Vick took the Falcons to the NFCCG on his back. You cannot deny that. If FOles does this, I would be proud, not a hater like you

          • theycallmerob

            he carried the team on a 5 game win streak. Take it elsewhere.

          • #7

            Go f yourself

          • theycallmerob

            what are you, 12? can’t handle the truth? aw poor baby!

            just get used to it: for every dumb abstract and wishful notion you present, there are cold hard facts disproving you. I know it’s tough to live like that….but you can always come around.

          • #7

            You’re the one mad, not me!!

          • theycallmerob

            riiight. always the victim. like Vick, right?

            if you don’t like it, feel free to move on like the rest of the idiots.

            But personally, I’ve had enough. I’m generally even-keeled and polite. But you’re just an a$$hat. so every time you show your face, we’ll make sure you remember who the starting QB is

          • #7

            I wasn’t even talking to you at all lol. But you stepped up to me and got that ass blasted.

          • GEAGLE

            He needs to be burped and have his diaper changed

          • #7

            See post below from Rob. I’m not pissed at all, but if someone curses at me for having my own opinion, which is my right, then they deserver to be told to go f themselves.

            He earned it. And I never come at Rob like that. He was one of my favorites in the past, but he’s drunk on the Foles kool-aid and needs to go to rehab. And you do too

          • theycallmerob

            kool-aid? you mean W’s?

          • #7

            Read along little Robby. Gave Foles credit

          • theycallmerob

            ..

          • #7

            That’s what I thought

          • #7

            Rob:

            “HOW CAN YOU BE SO DUMB
            LOOK AT WHAT YOURE TYPING
            I;M USING CAPS CAUSE OF THE DUMB

            if you want to win, you play the QB that’s winning. god, just get the f*ck out of here already. beyond asinine at this point”

            I would say that you’re pissed lol. No go put that pacifier in your mouth little one. And clean off that beard too. Kinda gross

          • theycallmerob

            this may be above your grade level, but give it a try.

            https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

          • #7

            F your links

          • theycallmerob

            shame. you might learn something.

            I’ll stick to images, you don’t have to know how to read for those.

          • #7

            yessah massah!!

          • theycallmerob

            dumb and homophobic are enough. you don’t have to add racist too.

          • #7

            When someone say “you’re beneath me”…kind of has a ring to it….if you know what I mean. Probably not because you’re the same. Probably your cousin

          • Adam

            Hahaha

            And with that, I’ve had my fun here for today.

          • theycallmerob

            no, sorry, I don’t know what you mean. Probably because I’m not racist.

          • #7

            Well that’s good to know. Thanks

          • Adam

            I’ve got a few links of his rap videos from youtube. It’s gold.

          • theycallmerob

            bring it on!

            the only thing 7 speaks is images and cave drawings. I’ll stick to those, until he sees Foles in his dreams. Tired of this masquerading BS. I’d take 10 dutch’s over his sorry a$$

          • #7

            ooooohhhhh

            you really got me there

          • theycallmerob

            would you say I got you right on the chin?

          • #7

            The we would be twins!! Your avatar says at all. Look at that beard!

          • Andy124

            but you can always come around..

            Think you’re giving a little too much credit there.

          • GEAGLE

            You dont actually expect a real response from me do you?

          • #7

            Well just skip me. It’s not hard.

          • anon

            To be fair we’re running an offense that’s similar to what he ran in college.

          • aub32

            Uhhh….no he didn’t. Foles has 23 TDs this year. One came against Denver in garbage time. Two came against the Giants in relief of Vick. That only makes 20, which is less than Vick’s 21. I know I’m being technical, but I just wanted to point out how you are so anti Vick that you are as bad as 7 but for the other side. You are making things up in this post and others. You can use actual stats to make your position and be much more effective since their won’t be as many holes to your argument.

          • theycallmerob

            .More TD passes in his 8 starts games this year than Vick has ever had in a whole season.

            better?

          • aub32

            Sheesh Rob I was making a point. It’s wasn’t about him being incorrect so much as not fact checking and being too far on the other side that he was the exact same as what he was lashing out against. Way to ruin a teaching moment.

          • theycallmerob

            sorry aub. As you can see, I’m in a certain mood this morning. Been teachable moments all over this thread

          • BlindChow

            Seems like it was more a semantical thing than full blinders in this case, tho.

          • Andy124

            Keep reading. He’s just repeating what I’ve said, and I already pointed out what you just said. You are correct though. Especially about the making the same point with the correct stats.

          • GEAGLE

            It’s really hard finding a word more accurate than IDIOT

          • Nick Folds

            That’s all you got? Name calling? What a wimp

          • GEAGLE

            Not at all, but that’s all you get. If you haven’t noticed, you are beneath me…and it’s sucks to see a bunch of respectful good posters that consistently bring a lot to these conversations waste time on a child like you…

          • #7

            Well why are you responding lol.

            Who are you? The King of England? “You are beneath me” lol. You sound like a slave master

          • GEAGLE

            Sorry. Truth can be hard sometimes

          • #7

            LOL. I’m fine man. Trust me. Your girlfriend Rob sure is getting pissed though lol.

            Look at his avatar. White stuff all in his beard…

          • theycallmerob

            12 was too much. You can’t be older than 9. homophobic much?

          • BlindChow

            You can always tell when you’re getting to him when he starts going on about chins. It’s his security blanket. (His crusty security blanket, amirite?)

          • Adam

            I’ve never seen a man talk about other men’s chins so much. You think there’s something he’s not telling us?

          • #7

            It’s so obvious. One comment not in favor of Foles and you “people” go into attack mode. You can try to bully people if you like, but not I says the cat!!

          • theycallmerob

            get out of here, says the deer
            move on, says the prawn
            scat, says the cat
            vamanos, says the rhinoceros

          • #7

            LOL that’s pretty good. Too bad your plan had failed miserably

          • Andy124

            It’s so obvious. One comment not in favor of Foles and you “people” go into attack mode.

            Hmm, let’s put that to the test:

            Foles took some sacks he shouldn’t have and missed some passes I’m sure he’d like to have back.

            Come on, bring on the hate.

          • Adam

            I’m driving to your house as we speak. Prepare for the stabbing.

          • Andy124

            I call BS. We all know a Canadian would do no such thing.

          • theycallmerob

            ..

          • #7

            It’s a football game son. That’s bound to happen, but the problem is, on here, only certain people can post about it and it be accepted

          • theycallmerob

            certain people?!?! what kind of “people” you talking about, son?

          • #7

            Uhh..well…you certainly can critique Foles and it be ok. Is that not a fact? And I will say, that rarely happens.

            All you see is 400 yards and 3tds. I say alot of that came in garbage time and YAC by #10.

            I guess that’s a lie also lol. Why can’t anyone else say that Foles struggled? Why is that forbidden on here?

          • Andy124

            428 yards is only a lot if you compare it to typical performances by all quarterbacks around the league. Those performances also have YAC included in their yards.

            35 yards and 0 touchdowns came in garbage time.

          • theycallmerob

            explain your garbage time. I’ll wait.

          • theycallmerob

            zing! he added racism below….real poor form.

          • Adam

            Yeah that’s a new one. Big Butthead would pull that card but I thought #7 was above that.

          • Andy124

            Not at all. He’s done the “yes massah” quite often. Not new at all.

          • #7

            Well maybe they shouldn’t insinuate that and they won’t get that response….

          • theycallmerob

            keep backing that train up. You’re reply was before I said it. Once it’s on the chin on the internet, there’s no going back

          • BlindChow

            Train? That wouldn’t be the Foles Train, would it? Because I’m pretty sure he’s not on that.

          • #7

            Nope I’m not convinced. Not a knock on him either. I’ve said hundreds of times that he’s played well and earned the job, but you people will not accept that lol. I don’t understand that at all

          • BlindChow

            Yeah, I guess it’s all that other stuff you say in between that.

          • theycallmerob
          • theycallmerob

            no. that is not it. you cannot be that dense.
            Foles critique is fine. we all do it.

            but no one says bench the starter and bring in Vick. Or the offense was better with Vick. or all the other nonsense you spout.

          • #7

            So what? What committment does Chip have to any of these QBs? Would if he wants to draft a QB anyway regardless of Foles’ play?

            We needed a spark and people on here and up in the “privileged” blog were clearly saying that we needed a spark. I see you missed that or you just wanted to ignore it. I’m not the only one who felt that way.

            You say the “Foles critique is fine. we all do it.”

            LOL yeah f’in right. Only people in your gang can do it. I came with straight up facts about the Minny game and most of your cronies responses is that Foles put up 400 and 3tds when it was CLEAR to others that it was YAC in garbage time. Passes behind the LOS. Screens…dump offs. That’s all well and good, but SF and Carolina can shut that shit down. I hope that it DOES NOT happen, but damn man, quit making this kid out to be Montana without him earning it. You’ve already crowned this KID. So what that I have not.

            Chip’s SCHEME/OFFENSE is getting people open. Why is it a crime when I say that???? Also SEVERAL games that FOles almost gave away, but of course, you people put the blame elsewhere. Vick could have gotten those first downs with his legs with all of the wide open green grass that is always left on the field every game because teams are not scared of Foles.

            IMO, Chip’s scheme is getting players in space which is the strength of our roster and seems at times to not want to put too much on Foles’ plate. Looks like a college offense with Foles in there at times.

            Pay attention. We call so many short routes and screens, but you seem to miss that and just look at YPC. Foles will need to fit the ball into tight windows DOWNFIELD IF we make the tournament and I’m not sure he can do that. And YES, Foles has done that at times. Hope that he can

          • theycallmerob

            If you’re going to go on a tirade, get your f*ckin facts straight first.

            Pay attention. We call so many short routes and screens, but you seem to miss that and just look at YPC

            those are your words.

            These are the facts:

            * Nick Foles leads the league in deep pass attempts, at 17.3% of his passes. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/12/07/signature-stats-play-action-deep-passing/
            * Along with that, he’s 8th in completing those passes. Ahead of Peyton Manning. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/12/07/signature-stats-play-action-deep-passing/
            *And a bonus for you. He (and the college offense) use play action 6th most in the league; however, he has the 2nd best QB rating (134.0) https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/12/07/signature-stats-play-action-deep-passing/

            please. pay attention

          • #7

            Damn that was loud. I felt like you were in my house screaming at me

          • #7

            You call it a tirade. I’ve been away for a while. No harm meant my friend just opinions

          • #7

            And I give you an up vote too lol. Damn bro, why so much anger?

          • Richard Colton

            Liar.

            I never wished an injury on Vick – looking back, considering Foles’ play, our franchise is better off because Vick got hurt. Find one NE Pats fan who doesn’t feel the same way about Bledsoe. You can ask them next year after they sign Vick to compete for 3rd string.

          • #7

            “Thank God for that injury”

            I don’t like doing all this searching threads. It just happened yesterday and I clearly remember.

          • aub32

            Dude relax. It’s sports….you know, a game. The insults are unnecessary. If it’s so easy to provide truths that oppose his oppinion then provide facts not insults.

          • #7

            He is not able. I insult no one with name calling, but if they bring it, I can too.

          • Maggie

            For someone new or rarely here you are sure quick with the name calling. Some of the people you are reading have been debating since this site began and they manage to disagree, most of the time, using proper English and much more subtle insults.

          • pjcostello

            I’ll be sure and give your comment exactly as much attention and introspection as it’s due, no worries. You can feel free to go police elsewhere now.

    • anon

      Like the first half of what you’re saying. I was ready to go to Vick after the first half it was sad looking, but nick’s a second year and has earned the right to play. I agree on the leadership aspect, it’s unclear where he stands there i think that’s something to work on.

      • #7

        I get that, but if Foles is struggling, why not get a spark from Vick? This is the same thing that would be said had Vick been struggling out there. As far as leadership goes, he doesn’t have to be a rah rah guy and Vick isn’t that either, but Vick was still leading on the sidelines while Foles was sipping on some water in the background. He needs to take hold of this team completely and he needs to get #10 in check instead of Vick and Avant having to do it. If he’s the future, it should be him and not Vick who will be out the door next season

    • Adam

      Just man up and use your actual account #7.

      • pjcostello

        He does, later (along with others) — this way, he can be a majority all by himself. Total fool.

        • #7

          Which one did you want? Bridgewater or Mariota

          • GEAGLE

            FOLES!!!!

          • Andy124

            Brevity is the sould of wit. Good post.

        • #7

          No answer, eh?

          • pjcostello

            Ooops, I forgot which one of your idiot personalities you expected me to reply to! Actually, none of you are worth another moment of my precious time, so — sayonara.

          • #7

            Yes!!!!!

          • Richard Colton

            I’ll answer – I wanted Mariota. Mostly because I didn’t think we had a shot at Teddy. Then, you know, Nick Foles happened. Some of us aren’t so in-th-bag for a player that we can see what’s in front of us. I legitimately feel bad for fans who love Vick so much they cheer Nick Foles incompletions.

          • #7

            Huh? I give props where they’re due sir

          • Richard Colton

            This isn’t snap chat – we can see your old posts.

          • GEAGLE

            Never wanted to draft a QB……I also kinda feel bad for vIck worshippers…of all the great players in the NFL, how does someone end up worshiping someone who isn’t good?

            Vick, TODAY is basically Jeff Garcia..

      • #7

        Man up lol. I’ve manned up since this site started. I have zero problem stating what I believe. I would say that I’ve been very consistent and not flip flopping like yourself and numerous others.

        The names Mariota and Bridgewater are forgotten names on here when guys like you harped about that on the daily

        • GEAGLE

          Dude…you worship a BUM….PERIOD!!

          • #7

            I wouldn’t call it worship…if you want to be honest with yourself, you chin is glazed over like a sheet of ice from all of your Foles slobbing.

            This is the most I’ve blogged in weeks and I’m on here because I worked early today. I like my chin clean

          • Adam

            You want the team to win but you want your hero to be the one to win games. You’re fine with being quiet while Foles wins but as soon as he falters you’re calling for Vick back again.

            Hope for Dallas to lose and Saint Nick to light up the Bears so you might get to see another game and half of Vick. It’d be a Christmas miracle for you I’m sure!

        • Adam

          Lol, this pretty much sums up the problem with people like you. Our opinions on a player can change. Consistently support a guy when he’s playing bad is dumb and isn’t good for the team. When you can take a step back and realize what’s best for the team then you can be an actual fan.

          • #7

            i want the team to win. Is that not supporting???

            You lost me there. If a person doesn’t have a fathead of Foles on their wall, they’re not a fan. Most f’ed up logic I’ve seen on here..since last week

          • anon

            Hah i support every eagles player whether good or bad — players don’t have a good game every week, they aren’t going to be perfect but i’ll cheer for all of our guys. I wish Vick played better honestly, but am happy Foles is playing great — I thought he was the future last year after the TB game.

          • Adam

            Hey, that’s a reasonable way of thinking. I enjoyed the Michael Vick experience while it lasted. Some people just can’t realize when it’s time to move

    • EaglePete

      ohhhh, this is why this thread ended up with almost 300 comments, trolling the Vick garbage again, man this stuff is old. I thought we moved on. There is not even an ounce of logic in this post worth replying to.

      • #7

        And Rob says i started this lol. The man fails to read and is quick to point the finger at me smh

      • Maggie

        Then why are you? Replying, that is.

    • OregonDucker

      Yeah, good points. With Vick in there we would have seen 4 INTs.

      • Nick Folds

        There was green grass for miles yet Foles gets sacked and his arm is to weak to throw it away so he takes sacks instead. Yeah ok.

        Some of those are 30 yard runs if no one is open for Vick.

        • EaglePete

          dude, the only green grass for miles is you all alone in the green grass with this pointless attention seeking nonsense

  • Andy124

    Gotta say, I’m not loving DJ’s quotes here. Doesn’t seem to want to acknowledge any culpability other than the absolute minimum he can get away with and try to move on. Like he’s just really uncomfortable accepting blame. He’s not that young anymore. I guess I’ll stop hoping he’s going to mature at some point (while he’s still playing football).

    Trying to head off the DJ defenders, I think he’s a really good player, I think he continued to play hard and I have no interest in getting rid of him. I just don’t like how this scenario has played out.

    • GEAGLE

      Hard to defend his actions…but I really enjoy Dialed in Deseans play…but the first sign of adversity he can’t be losing it like that

      • anon

        What? After the breakout he came back for that big play where he basically ran through the whole Viking’s defense. He was in the zone and just erupted.

        • GEAGLE

          Ok!

    • theycallmerob

      Yup. good player, glad he’s an eagle. But cannot handle adversity and is immature as a high schooler. Get us a ring, then go on to your rap career.

      • anon

        Did he or did he not go off for 200yds? Good player? please. He’s a fiery player most great WRs have had that same edge, i don’t hold it against him. He didn’t give up in that game, but he also wasn’t trying to get beat by a lesser team. He’d already gotten that TD run called back b/c of Foles and then Foles threw that pick and Desean got yelled at for not hustling back. However, he didn’t quit on the game, he went back in and made big plays. What more do you want?

        • Andy124

          Did he or did he not go off for 200yds?

          Nope. Only 195. :)

        • theycallmerob

          yes. he had a good game. but like you all accuse Foles, aren’t those garbage time stats??? can’t have it both ways.

          It’s a pattern of history. this wasn’t the first time. the guy took a f*cking season off. Like I said- get us a ring, I’ll clap, then move on.

          • anon

            Fine if you think Desean is the same player he always was then i understand what you’re saying. I was just going on CK and others saying that he’s different this year — but you’re probably right.

    • aub32

      Harsh much? Do you guys even pay attention to how some of the other players act. Tom Brady is the Golden Boy of the league. Did you watch his PC? He barely answered one question while swearing and left before a second question could be asked. Andre Johnson left the field before the game was over earlier this year. Jackson wasn’t making things up when he said it’s part of the game. Some of you seem to think that these guys should all behave like robots. They are people, and the game is emotional. Why should someone have to beg for forgiveness when they were just displaying how they felt. Not to mention, he’s the second most talented guy on offense and the main reason it’s been running so well despite who the QB was.

      • BlindChow

        It’s definitely more important how the locker room views him than what the fans think. If the team is in Jackson’s corner, there isn’t really an issue, I don’t think.

      • Andy124

        Not trying to be harsh. Thought I was pretty mild. Re-read my second paragraph.

    • anon

      I think Kelly has a gag order on explanations, but you could be right.

  • John J. King

    This team could be 10-6! Think about that. Nobody on earth thought they could say that at this point in the season. Even if they are 8-8, as disappointing as that might be from today’s vantage point, there were very very few who even gave them that much of a chance when the gaggle of “experts” were telling us they’d be lucky to be in last place in the NFCE last August.