Eagles Wake-Up Call: Pass-Rusher Rankings

NFL: Washington Redskins at Philadelphia EaglesAsked why the Eagles’ pass-rush has seen a boost in recent weeks, defensive coordinator Billy Davis pointed to continuity.

“I think the guys just keep getting better and better as the weeks go on,” he said. “The guys, they are fresh, they are rolling them in, so everybody gets the different one‑on‑ones. I think the stunts are being executed at a higher level right now because the guys have been with each other and doing it at full speed for awhile. We have been healthy, so the same guys are lining up next to the same guys and that helps continuity.”

According to ESPN Stats & Information, the Eagles have pressured opposing QBs on 15 dropbacks per game since Week 6, the second-highest total in the NFL.


Pressuring Carson Palmer was critical in last week's 24-21 victory over the Cardinals. The Eagles came up with five sacks, four QB hits and created disruption throughout that led to turnovers and other negative plays. Those things will factor in heavily once again this week against Matthew Stafford and the Detroit Lions.

Below is our weekly look at how the team's pass-rushers are performing.

 
Sacks
Hurries
Batted
Penalties
Chances
Pressure %
Vinny Curry492316211.1%
Brandon Graham34021267.1%
Connor Barwin48913436.4%
Fletcher Cox320204495.6%
Trent Cole510113634.7%
Bennie Logan25001953.6%
Clifton Geathers03001052.9%
Cedric Thornton17203552.8%
Damion Square0010531.9%

* Sacks, hurries and batted passes are tracked by coaches. I counted up the holding and intentional grounding calls. Pro Football Focus provided the pass-rushing opportunities. And I calculated the percentages.

Here are some notes:

* Trent Cole is on fire. He not only had two sacks against Arizona, but led the team with three additional hurries. In the last four games, Cole has 31 tackles, five sacks and five hurries. If you look at his pressure percentage over that span, it's 8.7 percent. Cole forced the fumble on his first sack last week. On the second one, he rushed off the edge once again and got to Palmer. And in the fourth, he lined up as an interior lineman, schooled the right guard and crushed Palmer as he released the ball.

* Brandon Graham had two sacks as well. The impressive part is he only had six opportunities to rush the passer. Chip Kelly did not make it sound like Graham is due for a bigger role, though, primarily because they like how Cole is playing.

"I think Trent is having a ton of success too," Kelly said. "You've got two guys playing successful at that point in time. And right now in our nickel package, Connor [Barwin] and Trent and Brandon are the outside guys, and you have Fletcher Cox, you've got Ced [Cedric Thornton], [Vinny] Curry, and those guys on the inside. So he's playing in a position where we're getting production, so it's a matter of rotating those guys."

* Curry continues to be the Eagles' most efficient pass-rusher. DeMeco Ryans got credit for a first-half sack last week, but Curry's pressure was key on the play. He drew a holding call and was credited with two hurries in the game.

* Per PFF, Barwin's snaps were split right down the middle in terms of rushing the passer and coverage. He dropped back 24 times and went after Palmer 24 times against the Cardinals. Barwin's versatility has been key in making the defense go all season.

WHAT YOU MISSED

The city fumble, the country fumble and more. Great look at how the Eagles are creating turnovers on defense from T-Mac.

Three Eagles leftovers, including Kelly on Marcus Mariota and Nick Foles MVP buzz.

The Foles bandwagon is filling up. Lots of national media links on the Eagles this week. Here is the roundup.

The Eagles are trying to buck the QB trend, writes McManus.

WHAT THEY'RE SAYING

Gil Brandt of NFL.com invokes names like Marino and Brady when writing about Foles. He's got the Eagles' signal-caller second behind Russell Wilson on his MVP list:

We could have something like a Tom Brady story on our hands here, if on a lesser scale. Although Foles broke many of Drew Brees' records at Westlake High School (Austin, Texas), he didn't win many games at Arizona, and thus didn't generate much buzz. Still, he was working in an offense that lacked structure. And yet, he managed to become the Wildcats' all-time leading passer (topping 10,000 yards in three seasons).

Dan Graziano of ESPN.com has LeSean McCoy seventh on his MVP Watch:

McCoy would be a lot higher on this list if Chip Kelly had remembered in the fourth quarter Sunday that he was on the team. The Watch is loving Kelly. He's super smart, has lots of great ideas about how to play offense, and his team is really fun to watch right now. But if the Watch had the league's second-leading rusher on his team and a 10-point lead with 13 minutes to play, "Throw deep to Riley Cooper" and "Spread it out and give it to Bryce Brown" would be easy options to skip past on the play sheet. The Watch gets that Kelly has his own style and the Watch digs that. Science, smoothies, running stadium stairs and still somehow never losing weight ... all cool. But Kelly also has McCoy, who can help you run the clock down while also offering the possibility of a very long touchdown. The latter obviously appeals to Kelly. The former needs to start.

COMING UP

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  • Carolina boy

    I really like where this defense is heading in the future just hope we stay consitent down the stretch. We really need a true OLB in the draft that can rush a trade Graham because Cole cap is to much to trade at his age and plus his great looker room influence.

    • nicksaenz1

      Only way you’re trading Graham is if he has more games like last Sunday down the stretch. He’s done very little to warrant much, if any, compensation, and makes more than any team would want to trade for since he’s a 1yr rental. I used to think we could get more for him in a trade but it’s just an impossibility due to the lack of very meaningful playing time. He may or may not get released, but since his dead money is the same as his salary next year, rather just keep him. Cole is more likely to get moved/released, but that’s becoming increasingly unlikely since he finally seems to be putting it all together. At the right time, too, might I add.

      • Carolina boy

        He might be a one year rental but he’s a good pass rusher in a 4-3 scheme and in this pass happy league someone will make a offer hell if we get a fifth rounder its better than nothing and we all see how our 5th blossom this yr(Wolfe)

        • G_WallyHunter

          I would hope better than a 5th, I don’t care if he’s a 1 yr rental, he was a 13th overall pick! plus, he’s starting to show he was actually worth a 1st round pick. It’s not like he’d be asking 10mil/year after the year, likely a fairly reasonable priced DE if you ask me.
          Like you said, pass happy league, some teams may view him as a bargain for what he would get paid in a new contract.

          • pjcostello

            Well, the fact that he was drafted high has nothing to do with his worth to other teams — only to the Eagles. If you overpay for a car and then try to sell it, you’re only going to get market value or below, because its value is lower than its cost. The cost doesn’t matter to the buyer, only the value does. :-)

          • G_WallyHunter

            A car decreases in value no matter what, BG has increased.
            I get ur analogy but just saying that this year and last year he’s finally starting to show he is worth a 1st round pick, on limited snaps mind you.
            His production has been enough to show he might have just been worth that, and might see a 3rd rd pick as a bargain given his recent production and what not. I guess we’ll see

  • DirtyWaters

    Funny that it was this week last year, with 4 games to go, that they fired Jim Washburn. I know they’ve run the wide 9 there since Jim Schwartz was hired with limited success early on, but their run defense seems to have improved. Nothing would make me happier than to see that crotchety old man get embarrassed by our o-line and shady.

    • evanphilly

      Suh and Fairley are beasts in the middle of that D. Makes it very easy to have decent success in the wide-9 with constant pressure up the middle.

      • nicksaenz1

        So true. Pray Mathis, Kelce, and Herremans can contain them and keep Foles upright. Can’t afford to have him taking shots from those two. Hopefully we’re able to get into our up-tempo offense early on and neutralize them a little.

        • GEAGLE

          Rather see us take holding penalties then allow dirty Suh to hit Foles

      • pjcostello

        Tulloch in the middle is also a beast of a LB, perfect for the wide-9 front.

  • GEAGLE

    My front 7 is NASTY!!!!!! Shocker

    • Andy124

      Yeah well My front 7 is NOICE!!!!!

      • GEAGLE

        Lol don’t be a smart Andy :)

        • Andy124

          If I cut that out of my repertoire, I wouldn’t be be posting very much. lol

  • evanphilly

    Funny hearing, reading and watching Cole really start to pick up the pace this late in the season. The knock on him was that he gets tired and worn down down the stretch. Glad to see the elder statesman rejuvenated and on fire nowadays.

    The stamina, overall health and just how in shape these guys are is something that is really flying under the radar.

    • Eagle in VT

      Kinda hope it stays that way. I get a bit annoyed now every time I see another seem signal plays into the team with hand motions or pictures. I don’t recall ever seeing it before it was mad a big deal this year as part of Kelly’s innovative style. I’d like to keep whatever competitive advantage we can.

      • Andy124

        Plays were always signalled in by hand before they put speakers in the helmet. Usually 3 guys all signalling, 2 of them decoys.

    • DirtyWaters

      I hope it continues to fly under the radar in what has always been a copy cat league. It’s crazy how healthy and fresh they are. I want that December advantage.

      • nicksaenz1

        It’s worthwhile to note that we’ve been very fortunate with major in-season injuries (knock on wood). Yeah we had a couple ACL injuries in the preseason, but we’ve been very fortunate with major injuries in the season, otherwise. The biggest thing has been, aside from Vick (go figure), the lack of cramping, muscle strains/pulls, and other minor injuries that generally knock players out a game or a few games. I think that’s where this has had the biggest impact, and in that sense, I pray that we don’t get copied.

        • DirtyWaters

          I’m so superstitious that I didn’t even want to discuss injuries. I think those ACLs would’ve snapped no matter the amount of sleep or smoothies. Isn’t that more a function of disproportionate strength of leg muscles, or they just snap? I dunno. In Chip I Trust.

          • jabostick

            I may be misremembering but wasn’t there something about those injuries happening on a specific (i.e. different than regular) field with different turf? I could be way off but I thought I remember reading that…

            If so, it’d be interesting to see if the field got changed in the offseason

        • UncleCarm

          Right now the biggest danger to our players is Chung running up and plowing our guys instead of their guys.

          • Cyrus Robinson

            They need a smoothie named “Chung repellant.”

          • Andy124

            I’m with you, but the guy we want to replace him, Wolff, is the one who actually has injured a fellow Eagle and made him miss time.

      • evanphilly

        It’s a copy cat league. Expect more stories about smoothies next year. But this time, when a team like NE or Denver does it, the media will claim it as innovative.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Teams will catch on. Notice how secret they’ve kept Shawn Huls? 0 media visits?
          It’s like they’ve crammed him in the basement of the Linc to run the sports science program in secrecy, let’s hope they keep it that way.

          There’s no doubt teams will be trying to copy the methods one way or another, sure they can find out the techniques, that’s fine. What they won’t figure out is how to effectively organize all of the tactics and technologies into an effective program, that’s what Huls and Kelly will keep under wraps. They obviously have the optimum combination and organization of these techniques and technologies, they know this is the advantage they hold, hopefully it is kept that way. Belichick better stay away from the Linc with his cameras…

          Another thing about copying the SS program that is probably overlooked, the buy-in factor. With other teams, they’d be lucky to have 80% buy-in (or overall commitment), Eagles have 110% buy-in and rising, that plays a very large part in the program’s effectiveness. This factor doesn’t receive the credit it’s due when assessing the program’s effectiveness, everyone points to the methods.

          • Eagle in VT

            Ahhhhaahha…love that you invoked Belicheats name. I live in New England now, and all the Pats fans are on Kelly’s nuts, saying that the Pats are going to steal him once Belicheat retires… I should just hit them when they say sh!t like that to me…

          • G_WallyHunter

            LOL as if Chip would leave this situation for an aging Brady, that’s hilarious.
            The patriots are nothing without Belicheat and Brady, they will be gone, I don’t get ur fan friends, no base on that theory. No incentive for Chip to go there if the two people that built the franchise are gone….
            CK will build his own dynasty in the other conference, we have already found out he’s not the type of person to go and continue someone elses work.

          • Eagle in VT

            I still think I should hit them…

          • Always Hopeful

            I think CK doesn’t need Brady. He’s done wonders with Foles and he could find another QB to run this O. There’s something about going back home though…I live in the Northwest and just watched Sarkisian(?) leave U of Washington to go back to USC.

            That’s kind of snake move, but he talked about coming back home.

            G_, I hear you about CK not following someones work, but it could be tempting…He’s a “homeboy” at heart, and home is North of Philly.

            Who says CK wouldn’t want to go back to NE and be THE MAN with the Pats?

            Okay, I don’t want to think about that right now…what will we do to beat the Lions Sunday? :-) Go Birds!

        • pjcostello

          I don’t remember the pickle juice being copied. :-)

          • theycallmerob

            I copied it! Drank tons of it during both my mid-east stints. Got a lot of funny looks, but I never needed an IV!

          • devCal

            did you run for 200 yards.?

      • Eagle in VT

        The one thing I think we’ve got going for us is that Chip has been doing, and refining, this for years now. He likely has the inside track on what’s most effective. I expect to see copying but don’t expect them to get it right out of the gate, so we may have another couple years before the league truly catches up.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Bingo, “has inside track on what’s effective”, him and Huls will be COLLABORATING and optimizing it, way ahead of any other teams.
          Mind you, they can hire experts too, and they have, but like you said CK and SH have inside track through experience and trial and error, they’re like a Ferrari at a smart car race.

        • jabostick

          It’s also not just a matter of being able to copy something. I think everything Chip does tries to tie back into an overall philosophy he has. You can’t just pick and choose and start running a shorter/faster practice or hire a sports nutritionist and expect it to translate.

          • Eagle in VT

            I couldn’t agree more! That’s one of the points I keep making to friends is that I’m impressed with Chip’s systemic approach to coaching. He doesn’t look at one component, but rather takes a systems view and has developed a holistic approach. You’re right, taking a piece here or there won’t net the same results when they aren’t applied in conjunction with the balance of the system.
            …as an aside, I hate Disqus…

    • DEBO 215

      I credit Chips conditioning and diet change for the overall health of the roster this year…and some good luck of course.

    • Always Hopeful

      Trent is one of my favorite all-time Eagles. Not flashy, but he brings the hard hat every game ready to go. It seemed like he’s been fading the past few years, but he’s starting to really thrive in his role now.

      You right about the knock on him in the past…he seemed to have good-to-great September to November (pass rushing at least, his run stuffing skills seemed to always stay on point) then disappear in December and playoffs.

      Happy for him, because his production helps the Eagles win!

  • Eagle in VT

    Ok, so let me throw something out there for consideration. I’m not saying I endorse this idea, per se, but it’s come up in conversations I’ve had with other fans and want to air it:

    So at the beginning of the year I would have said we need to focus much of our attention in the draft and free agency to our defense. OLB, CB, safety were all major concerns.

    However, with how well they are currently playing, and the emergence of Foles, does it make sense to look at just one CB and one safety, then focus the balance of the draft on keeping Foles upright (Peters and Herremans are aging) and arming him with some more BIG bodies to throw to?

    Doing this kind of takes us the Denver route: our defense isn’t great, but it doesn’t matter because we will out score you.

    Again, I’m not saying I endorse this, but I think it merits a conversation.

    • evanphilly

      Who says we even need a Safety? Allen is playing great and Wolfe should be very serviceable. OLB, CB, backup RB and a big WR target should be on the shopping list. Maybe an OL to replace Peters and or Herramans.

      • GEAGLE

        You do realize Nate will be a free agent and he can walk if he wants.

        • Richard Colton

          if any player ever needed to give a hometown discount, it’s Nate Allen, considering the slop he made us watch for over a year

          • GEAGLE

            RIGHT!!! I could see him getting out of this city as fast as he can..it’s more likely he gives the next team a discount to get him out of here

    • nicksaenz1

      We have some decent backups so I’d still focus on OLB, WR, CB, in that order, add some lineman later, and address safety in FA.

      • Carolina boy

        People keep saying get a safety in FA in which I think everyone is talking about Byrd but at the money he’s going to demand I doubt we go that route with Allen playing better and them showing they can coach up late draft talent(Wolfe)and be successful but we will need to address it just don’t think Byrd will be it

        • Richard Colton

          .,.

          • Andy124

            Is that a Koala bear?

    • Andy124

      Even with Cole’s improved production lately, he’s still old for the position on this team. We need a young, athletic guy built to play that position. At this point, I’m going to trust Howie and crew to get that done. Aside from that, find role players in FA, maybe the occassional splash move (Byrd), and keep drafting BPA.

      BPA is going to get you some linemen, so that will be addressed. If a stud OT lands in our lap, maybe LJ moves to the left side, Peters replaces Herremans and new guy replaces LJ. Anything’s possible. I don’t think Peters is as close to the end as some seem to though. I expect him to be better next year than this.

      I’d also like to see an open competition between Toddfather and Barbre next offseason. If Todd loses, he can backup both guard and tackle, same as Barbre is doing.

      • GEAGLE

        Recent mocks have Mack truck falling to the 13-15 range..If we don’t pick later than 23, I will be really upset if we don’t trade up and snag him…
        Khalil Mack Truck will be an impact pass rusher at the next level. Add a pass rusher of his a caliber, and stud safety help, and you will see our corners tighten up their coverage…..

        People need to understand that they aren’t yet seeing the best Cary and Brad have to offer..We are still blowing coverages and making too May communication mistakes…After this secondary gels more, and Cary and Brad are completely in sync with our safeties, you will see the play tighter coverage because they will trust that the safeties will be there to have their back…..Improved pass rush, and improved safety play, along with more cohesion and we will see that our starting CBs are FINE!

        People also need to understand that in TODAYS NFL, CBs aren’t draft and plug players! You DO NOT want to go to war with rookie CBs, especially for a team that will be as competitive as us Next year..

        WE look at our CBs and THINK that we need an upgrade, but I honestly think Howie and Chip are planning to go to war with Brad,Cary and Boykin for the next two or 3 years..

        Howie will try to find another 4th round Boykin, or a 5th round Earl Wolff type quality CBs….

        Unless you plan on breaking the bank open for the kid from the Titans, there aren’t CBs that will play better next year for us, than Cary and Brad who will be much more comfortable by next year

        • Andy124

          I’m with you on not throwing a rookie CB out there full time. I still like the idea of an early rounder there. But we can’t trust Fletcher to stay healthy and CW isn’t going to be around long term. He is upgradeable. The sooner you start grooming the upgrade, the sooner he’ll be ready.
          We want both size and atheleticism and instincts and toughness at that position. You can get “and” earlier in the draft. Generally have to go with “or” later in the draft.

          Obviously not a top priority. But if a CB is BPA in the second, it’s an easy call imo.

    • Eagle in VT

      For the record, I think CB is the area I’m most concerned with on D. I like Boykin in the slut but the Mouth as our #1 CB concerns me, and I’m not brimming with confidence with either Fletcher or Carmichael.

      • Harpy Eagle

        +1 for Boykin in the slut LMAO

        • Richard Colton

          it’s good to be a pro athlete

        • Eagle in VT

          Lol, Boykin probably likes being in the slut too…
          I however meant slot but I’m sure you realized that.
          Smh…in the slut…

    • Soybot

      We need an OLB. Cole won’t be able to sustain this level of play much beyond next year.

      • GEAGLE

        Don’t worry, pass rush help isjst a few months away…BET THAT!

    • DEBO 215

      They can probably re-sign Maclin on the cheap…but Eric Decker will be a free agent, among other good WR’s and we have a ton of money to spend. They could also draft Evans from A&M if he’s on the board. I think defensive backs should be their top priority in the draft…They could really use a FS.

      • GEAGLE

        I think our safety is coming via FA…it’s either going to be Nate,Byrd,Clemons or Ward…
        ….
        I would love to sign Byrd to start with Wolff, and bring Nate back for our 3 safety looks since his specialty is coverage

        • cliff henny

          cant see nate taking 3rd string money. someone will pay Nate starters money, probably the low end range. check any team’s blog on sbnation, for the exception of seattle, everyone complains about safety and cb’s play. i have no desire to keep nate if eagles get HaHa, joyner or 3 guys you suggested. what’s wrong with saying Nate is mid to low level safetety getting coached up…that’s great, coaches will be here next yr (least Davis seems like DC for life type, so he’ll be here). get them a more talented player, feel confident they’ll get most out of him.

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t either…just having a Rick Astley moment #KINGofWISHFULthinking

        • anon

          I don’t like paying $14m when our staff has made Nate a decent safety. I think we get a mi-priced FA, plus wolff, plus draft. I don’t know if Nate stays Philly has been pretty harsh to him over the years.

          • GEAGLE

            having a serious STUD PLAYMAKING Safety, would make Cary and Bradley good enough to go to war with the next 3 years(Start drafting and developing their replacements in the 2015 draft and sit on the bench for a year)..

            If Cary Williams had time to gel with an Earl Thomas quality safety behind him, he would look and play significantly better than what we are seeing right now. He is giving his Man so much space because he doesn’t have complete trust yet that the safety behind him will have his back. it’s SOOO obvious! Just listen to Cary’s comments after a huge win against the cardinals. Instead of enjoying the win, Cary was focused on the communication mistakes we were still making in the secondary. You could see how he interacts with Chung that he doesn’t trust him…Cary will hold everyone accountable. He is the ultimate competitor and is completely focused on I winning another SB….You HAVE to add a safety who will be the most talented player in our secondary. once you have that, and you give him,Bradley,Wolff,Boykin and Cary time to Gel, you will see a really good secondary of a top NFL defense

          • Marilyn Monbroe

            I think cary gives tons of space because he’s slow.

    • GEAGLE

      NO! You get a premier Safety and pass rush OLB…and then you focus on building an offense around St Nick..
      OG
      Two WRs

      • borntosuffer

        I don’t know. Foles is making Cooper look like a star. I say make sure the o-line is well stocked before worrying much about WR. As VT notes, the O-line is aging.

        • GEAGLE

          Like I said! you draft a OG…we have young OTs in the pipeline, Kelly,Bamiro!and Barbre…

          • Richard Colton

            But we don’t know if Kelly or Barbre can play – think OT/OG is still a position of need. I’d rank it slightly below OLB, S, WR.

            VT’s point is well made. Two questions. #1 What would this offense look like without Peters & Johnson playing at a high level? #2 How likely is it that Jason Peters plays 19 games per year at a high level over the next few years?

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t know how many more years we can count on JP, but I feel comfortable with him next year…to me, Barbre has proven that he can step up when needed if JP has problems…heck Barbre is doing it now, I’m confident that if he has to play a 4 game stretch, he will be fine when he gets starter reps.,Dennis and Bamiro I have NO IDEA about…..

            bPersonally I really want Cyril from Baylor..perfect in a spread system, yet can also play power ball…He can back up both the OG and OT position…I want him because I KNOW Herremans will need to be replaced soon…I don’t know that about JP. Actually, I think JP will be EVEN BETTER next year then he is this year..
            ..
            Since JPP and Barbre can hold it down ATleast one more year! why not wait a year to make a significant OT investment so that you can get a better idea if Bamiro can or can’t be the answer?

            If we have to take a OL in the first two rounds I really hope it’s the kid from baylor

          • Stormbringer

            I like your idea of shoring up the line before they get too old.
            But some of the Baylor linemen have been stiffs in the pros. Look at Jason Smith or even Danny Watkins. I think Mudd destroyed Watkin’s confidence but looking at their track record I’d not spend a really high pick on a Baylor OL.

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t like generalizations like that…maybe you are right and Cyril goes on to be a stif..I’m not too concerned about drafting Lineman…We have Tom Gamble here who helped build an NFL BULLY of an Oline in San Fran, and Stoutland who coached the best college linemen and now has gotten an up close view of what probowl NFL linemen look like..
            ..
            I have my ideas about OL prospects but that’s one of the position where I really really trust our front office. So while I’m a believer in the Baylor kid, if he is on the board and we pass on him for an OLmen I won’t lose any sleep. It’s soo great to have so much trust in our evaluators and decision making…yet there were times during the Andy era, where I actually trusted my judgment more then the eagles lol, All those years they told me LB and WR don’t matter,and that Reno Mahe can return kicks lol..

          • Richard Colton

            Here’s a spot for another bold prediction. Eagles draft 22 – too low to move up to get Barr/Mack/Clowney and there’s an early run on OLB/WR in the ’14 draft. A crazy run, like Van Noy goes top 15. Look at the talent we might steal at OT. Say a Matthews or a Kouandjio falls into our lap? Would you be upset by that pick? I wouldn’t.

          • GEAGLE

            No, of course I wouldn’t be upset…better we are in the trenches the better chance we have to win…but I’m kind of expecting the opposite. By the time the combine is over I think we will see a crazy top 20 run on OL which is going to push a really good WR or OLB into trading range for us..
            Mathews will go in the top 5 IMO
            Who is that kid who is rising like crazy, this year Eric Fisher? My mind is drawing a blank..I think he plays for Iowa
            Lewan will combine his way into top 20
            The kid from FSU will declare and get picked in the top 13
            kouandijuo will also climb to the top 15
            ….
            I really expect we will see a major run on OTs to start this draft, and that a stud like Barr will fall to 5 or 6, and Mack will fall to 12-15

          • Richard Colton

            Ohhh man. Mack to the Eagles at 16? and all we give up is a 3rd and 6th rounder?

          • GEAGLE

            We have two 5th rounders…i would expect one to be traded. I wouldn’t mind giving them an extra 5th in 2015 to keep our second rounder if that’s what it took…The CBS mock has the giants taking Mack at 15, with the rams picking at 14…rams will gladly trade back and get more picks…

            get The Mack TRUCK and you are just a stud safety, some depth and time to gel and grow away from GREATNESS!!

            Im telling Yous right now, Washington will deliver the rams a top 3 pick, and they will take Mathews off the board

          • anon

            Or we can get 2 earl wolffs.

          • GEAGLE

            I’m fine with trading a Wolff and a Logan fly a baby Damarcus Ware :)

          • Richard Colton

            let me tell you how bad I feel for the Redskins…{sound of crickets} {yawn} {sound of crickets}

          • anon

            Maybe if their fans weren’t so obnoxious and i didn’t have to hear ALL of that nonsense last year.

        • anon

          Imagine what Kelly could do with better tools.

  • Soybot

    soybot thinks that using the third person is a worn out crutch for hack sportswriters.

  • DEBO 215

    It’s all about adjustment to the scheme. The further we get into this season, the more comfortable these guys are getting and it shows. Guys like Cole and Graham have had their hand in the dirt playing the 4-3 end for their entire career, so an adjustment period or learning curve is to be expected. The fact that they’ve been able to make the transition and are now excelling in it only means good things going forward. I expect this front seven to continue to get better.

    • GEAGLE

      We are only seeing these guys play to about 70% of their potential….just wit til they get another year of continuity under their belt. THIS TIME NEXT season, our defense will be ferocious!

      • DEBO 215

        Absolutely.

  • GEAGLE

    I can buy that our health is luck…but Cole wears down every single December…he has logged major snaps all year yet looks fresher than I ever seen him in December, and he is a year older….sports science HAs to be making a difference…..can’t all be a lucky coincidence

    • EaglesFanInPHx

      I agree, and not to mention our defense has been on the field a LOT. Our time of possession is so low this year. Just adds to how effective Chip’s techniques are at keeping the players fresh.

      • GEAGLE

        So true…if these defenders can play major snaps all year and not wear down playing defense for a Chip Kelly team! there HAS to be something I this sports science…I would build a statue for Hulls, but I don’t even know what he looks like lol #SecretWEAPON!!!!!

  • GEAGLE

    FOles told the national media that he wear a “vote for Pedro” shirt around the house, LOL

    • Eagle in VT

      Why can’t I up vote more than once!!

      • GEAGLE

        If you having QB problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a QB ain’t one!!!….HIT ME!

        • Richard Colton

          Just for fun – if teams got to redo the 2012 NFL draft, where do you think Foles and the other QBs go?

          • GEAGLE

            Wow..that’s so tough….he probably hasn’t done enough to overtake the ridiculous love luck and RG3 get, but Wilson would go where Weeden went and Zfoles probably to where Tannehill went. He completed 60% as a rookie with NO line in an Andy Reid offense, 365 days later in a completely different offense he is still over 60% and setting the league on fire? Lol that’s a top 5 pick!!! Over 60% in two drastically different offenses with less then 16 games of experience? Some franchise might take him over luck :)

    • DirtyWaters

      All my wildest dreams are coming true.

    • Brandon

      why do u spell it FOles?

  • cliff henny

    man, i hate Dan G, even when he’s making semi-valid point, he’s an absolute dutch-bag about it-not even sure what the Watch is, pretty sure it’ll annoy me. Shady did recieved the majority of the carries, and if you are ever going to give workload back a break, it’s on the run slams into stacked line up by 10. and on Cooper, dont have game memorized, but he might have had 1 ball thrown his way in 4th. if anything, he needs to get more screnes, high percentage little risk of incompletes that’ll soften LOS. he really is the last person questioning kelly.

    • GEAGLE

      Cooper and Desean will have big games this week….Dan G is worthless

    • Chris

      upvote for dutchbag

    • southy

      I will admit the line about running the stairs and never losing weight had me laughing.

  • Brandon Boykin, OLB

    Where’s Token? I seem to remember having quite the argument with him about how Trent Cole either a) wasn’t done or b) how they shouldn’t cut him. In any case, I want my Geagle-esque props, Token.

    • GEAGLE

      Cole has surprised me, so PROPs to you!! To have him play like this after all the snaps he has played is very impressive…
      ..
      Trent n Graham playing well is in our best interest because it allows us to draft an OLB, let him add weight and bring him along slowly….if they weren’t playing well, we couldn’t draft a kid like Vic Beasly who needs to add so much weight before he is ready to take over.

      • Brandon Boykin, OLB

        Yeah even after Cole’s reemergence, I’m stuck in a rut of whether I want a new OLB or not. I keep hoping something clicks and Graham becomes a beast. He and Cole are probably my favorite players. Once a DE so I love my DEs.

        Thoughts Geags?

        • jabostick

          I think this is probably the best we could’ve hoped for. Maybe Graham breaks out but (as Geagle says) I think OLB continues to be a draft/offseason priority and we’ve got two solid guys holding the fort until we transition to a more suitable player

          • anon

            Graham’s gone after this year. Too bad he wasn’t producing earlier we could have traded him.

        • GEAGLE

          take advantage of a stud OLB draft and get a star pass rusher…you know I love my eagle defenders but if you get a 12 plus sack guy across from Barwin it will transcend this defense to greatness..forget the 12 plus sacks he will bring, he will constantly force QBs off his spot and into the arms of our other really good front 7 players..
          ..
          We have to keep Cole and Graham because of the money. But right now we have Casey Mathews backing up Barwin lol…so you take advantage of a draft with some serious stud OLBs, and you let him add weight and back up Barwin next year! while Cole and Graham continue to man the other OLB spot next year….by the time next season ends, Cole will be older, and Graham will hit FA…The OLB we draft this year will be ready to step in for Cole by 2015 and Cole can finish off his contract as a 3rd down specialist…and we will have a good idea if we want to resign Graham or not by then, I wouldn’t hold my breathe

          A stud pass rusher, and a stud playmaking safety will make Cary and Bradley SIGNIFICANTLY better, once they gel and trust the new safety to have their back. Cary is giving up so much space to his man because he doesn’t trust his safety help…once that chAnges he will tighten his coverage up and everyone will see that our CBs are more to the good enough to go to war with..
          ….
          A pass rush stud, a stud safety, and time for this defense to grow and gel is ALL we NEED to be GREAT!!!

          • anon

            Cole / Graham could get to 12 this year. I think he could hit 12 last year. Honestly, i think we should go BPA, no Qb, no RB

          • GEAGLE

            We will go BPA…but since we have less GLARING holes than we expected, I think it’s the perfect opportunity to trade up and target a top 15 talent…when I look at this draft class and where we are projected to pick, I think there is a good chance an OLB or a WR will be at the top of our board..

            I also look out our needs and think that if we pick and there is a WR,OLB,and CB at the top of the board, that we would either take the WR because this will always be an offensive team, or if we go Defense, OLB would easily win the tiebreaker with a CB…pass rusher,OT. And QB are the most valued position. Gamble and Chip will know the importance of finding OUR Aldon Smith/Dion Jordan..a rookie OLB can work his way into a rotation…a rookie CB will be worthless for us, because there is no way he can beat out Cary or Brad in his rookie year….An OLB can make Cary and Bradley better than another CB will..

            Barwin is and will be the PERFECT Jack of all trades for us…so we need that downhill Von Miller opposite him..
            ..

          • anon

            Are most college teams 4-3 teams? I’d rather get a 3-4 OLB than a 4-3 De that we convert.

    • cliff henny

      sure it was token? doesnt sound quite right, he had something disparaging to say about an Eagles’ player coach front office?

      • Brandon Boykin, OLB

        A disparaging comment followed by a condescending comment about me as a person? Yeah you’re right. It couldn’t have been him. I’m probably horribly mistaken.

        • cliff henny

          i get glass half empty eagles fans, been rough…but he’s glass left in desert for 50 yrs dry

    • anon

      Token doesn’t like any Ealgles player, except shady probably. I’m glad we’re playing well so he’s taken his thoughts elsewhere.

  • GEAGLE

    Btw, im telling you guys right now…Vinny Curry will be an MVP THIS WEEK…He will look over, see Jim Washburn, start foaming at the mouth, and take it out on stafford, bobby bOuche style!! Vinny is forcing a fumble this week…take that to the bank!

    • Richard Colton

      it’s bold prediction Thursday! I’ll predict that Foles demolishes Peyton’s TD/INT record this week – and that the record setting TD is caught by Lane “reporting as eligible” Johnson.

      • GEAGLE

        Lol….your bold prediction isn’t THAT far fetched in my brain :)

        Dude, Washburn wouldn’t even let Vinny wear an eagles jersey..Vinny will look like he has rabies this week

        • Richard Colton

          I’ve never loathed a former position coach as much as that guy. Castilio gets a juan-way ticket to heaven for not punching Washburn in the mouth.

          • DirtyWaters

            I love they exiled his little boy Babin Would’ve loved to been in Nova Care Complex when Washbum found out!

          • GEAGLE

            Washburns only redeeming quality is he begged us to get him Cox

          • DirtyWaters

            Dirty old man begging for Cox. Probably be screaming for Dix this year.

          • GEAGLE

            Hahahah serious LOL

      • Andy124

        My bold prediction is that the Eagles score in the 4th quarter.

        • GEAGLE

          Not scoring in the 4th is the only way we lose this game. We will build a nice 28-10 lead on the lions, but they always come roaring back in the 4th…if we try to hold on for dear life, we will lose this game…but if we score that 4th quarter TD in the 4th getting us to 35, we win this game!!

          • anon

            CJ is going to have a big game. I predict 200 yds 1 TD. Reggie 70yds rushing / 60yds passing 1 TD

  • EaglePete

    Im hatin this Rodgers not ready bench him rest of way talk. Need a Pack win this wkend to give him incentive to come back and play. Im guessing the boys and Eagles either both win or both lose. I could easily see that division losing out now that the mighty NFC Beast is back and rising. McCown can put up some points on them I think.

    “The Watch” really? Super lame, no wonder I never go to espn anymore.

    • GEAGLE

      Same..I’m hoping Rodgers and Cutler play!

      Telling our right now, Dallas is losing to Chi Town on Monday,,,Forte is gonna tap dance all over that D…Wish we were playing Dallas this week. I know we have a better team then them,,I KNOW Jason Garrett isn’t giving his guys what Chip gives them, I KNOW IT!! We are READY for them NOW…hopefully we are at this level or better when we play them at the end of the year…

    • Adam

      Graziano is right where he belongs, covering his beloved Giants.

      • BlindChow

        I just don’t think Graziano likes football. He was accused of being a homer for every team when he wrote something good (he loved the Eagles at the beginning of the Dream Team year), and a hater whenever he wrote something bad (he dumped on the Giants at the beginning of their Super Bowl year). But boy, he was totally condescending towards football fans from the start. He just likes baseball.

        • Adam

          I’ve read some of his pre-ESPN stuff when he wrote for an NY paper. He had some pretty outspoken views against the fans and people of Philadelphia. I’m not entirely sure what his deal is, but he definitely comes across as a condescending a-hole.

    • anon

      I frankly don’t think Culter is better than McCown. I think the Bears can win this game, especially coming after a close loss last week. Eagles have a tough game, should be exciting.

  • GEAGLE

    Can’t believe no one is talking about last nights Inside the NFL on SHOWTIME.

    It was GLORIOUS!!! When they were showing our highlights the narrator said: “the eagles college offense is looking like it’s graduating in December”…loved hearing inside he NFL take a shot at pig face Arians. To hear it from the Narrator was awesome…

    Did you guys see the Colds Cory redding making Chance Warmack look I like a child?

  • GEAGLE

    Walters latest mockery of a mock has us taking:
    1) CJ Mosley ILB with cardinals taking Beasly OLB with the next pic and saints take can Noy at 25
    ..
    2) Safety Craig Loston LSU passing on Stanford OLB Murphy what a joke
    3) Cb Swaann from Georgia..

    So we aren’t getting a WR or a pass rusher in the first 3 rounds…ok Walter lol, if you say so
    ..
    His first 7 picks are
    1) Teddy
    2) Hundley
    3) Clowney
    4) Barr
    5 Mathews
    6) Manziel
    7) Carr
    8) Evans

    • cliff henny

      Loston is dropping, hewent from 1-2 to 3rd. watched last 3 big lsu games, he has not shown much. not sure why you read that guy, pulled logan out of his ass once, guess give him credit there. if eagles take any lsu guy in 2nd, it’s landry

      • GEAGLE

        It’s not that I read that guy..I’m an addict lol, I read all of them..he had joyed early round two to Jets

    • pjcostello

      It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the WR we need is already here, and simply needs re-signing in Jeremy Maclin.

      • anon

        Look at our depth. We also need PR/KR.

        • pjcostello

          Absolutely agree, though that person could be a WR, RB, defensive back… I’d rather that person were not one of our top two WRs.

          • anon

            I think that’s what chip is going to be looking for. I think the WR depth gets largely cleared out after this year, we have a lot of trash back there. Too bad we didn’t keep Salas.

          • GEAGLE

            Yup..I think they will redo the WR corp…Damaris and Avant need replacing

          • anon

            I really want to like Avant. Feel like he makes awesome catches, not sure why he’s never open / thrown to.

          • EaglePete

            I used to like Avant but really disappointed this season. Not that he ever got much separation but hes not making tough catches in traffic or using his hands. He waits too often for the ball to hit his body and the defender knocks it away. I always thought his strength was catching tough balls. If thats not there, hes not nearly as serviceable imo. Draft a big WR or get a Decker opposite Djax and put Riley in the slot maybe would be nice.

          • anon

            Decker? Please good but doesn’t have those big body skills — we need a D. Thomas type of guy. Decker is a better Riley Cooper. Imagine if we got our D. Bryant, D. Thomas, AJ Green type of stud WR this year? Our offense would be stupid next year.

      • GEAGLE

        MAybe, but you can’t count on Maclin. Either way Chip will want to start drafting his own WR. Cooper wll cost money, as does Desean…we needto get some rookie contracts in at the position

      • cliff henny

        alot of quality recrs in 1st 3 rds, have to grab one. even if sign both cooper and maclin, still need slot guy to replace avant. kr/pr skills would be nice too, like my fav, landry

        • anon

          Josh Cribbs!

          • cliff henny

            35 yd line kickoff cost him a job.

        • GEAGLE

          Walter has him 94th to the saints which means we passed on him in the 3rd hahahah that would NEVER happen

          • cliff henny

            does he not own a tv? he couldnt have watched last week vs ARK w/ beckham out and Landry made catch after circus catch.

  • cliff henny

    remember in off-season, kelly talking about play of last year’s defensive unit and watching film. he didnt come right out and say it was the stupidest defense he’s ever seen, was certainly easy to read between lines. basically said he had no clue what past coaching was thinking or trying to accomplish, impossible him to self scout existing players. was about as close to it as coach will come to insulting past regime. sure he is licking his lips, figuratively and literally, watching Det’s wide9. hope shady sees those mack truck running lanes we fans sat thru for 2 yrs.

    • GEAGLE

      I swear I was thinking about this a few days ago lol…Chip will use the Lions Dlines aggression against them!!

      • anon

        Play action. Gonna embarrass their secondary.

      • cliff henny

        really dislike lions, a, wide9, b, hate dome teams c, stafford, annoys me how much create people give him…imagine foles numbers if he got to throw 8-10 jump balls to megatron.

        • anon

          That’s really all he does. Which is fine b/c nale allen’s going to be undercutting all those balls. CW / BF are probably going ot have some PI penalties — hopefully they let the guys play.

          • cliff henny

            no doubt CJ is the best, but DBs have held their own against some good wrs lately. let johnson get his, just not got batshit crazy, limit his RAC, and not let some other clown wr go nuts. kendricks limiting bush is matchup i’ll be watching.

          • GEAGLE

            Cliff is spot on! How kendrick contains Bush is the crucial matchup this week

          • cliff henny

            forgot d, really hate Bush…leinert too…lived in LA during that carroll run. you think Cowboy fans are annoying, USC fans are the worst

        • EaglePete

          Im not sure what youre watching then. I think Stafford is really good, its not always just megatron. Some of his throws are things of beauty, perfectly placed. I guess the knock is his inconsistency at times but they all have some of that minus the elite few. I always wonder why the Lions arent going deeper in the playoffs more often, they have an explosive offensive. That combo of Bell and Bush can do damage. Their D is finally coming together and I guess held them back in the past. That being said, dont mind me, let the Lions hate continue, this is the week for it.

          • BlindChow

            I think they could be really dangerous with a better coach. Hopefully Schwartz wins just enough to keep the job for a few more years…

          • cliff henny

            just 2 weeks ago against TB, stat line, imagine if foles had this
            26/46 297 3 tds 4 ints! it’s not hard to find stat lines like this for him. didnt say he sucked, just see him in top10 qb rankings, i’d have him middle of pack is all. he has some talent, wildly inconsistant, has megatron and plays in a dome. dome qbs always have better than suggested stats compared to outside qbs. peyton manning was and is great, best way to beat his colts, get them outside in playoffs, dome, darn near unbeatable. brees too. i’ll admit, i dont like dome qbs/teams, think it’s unfair to compare guys who get 8 perfect weather games against element guys.

          • EaglePete

            great point about dome QBs, more should be made of that and the evidence is clear. Look at Brees in Sea just the other day. Although, their D is solid. That homefield advantage is ridiculous. This reminded me of something I heard in a game last week or 2 weeks ago and I cant recall where it was, maybe someone can help. There was this really loud annoying sound or noise coming from the stadium PA right before the QB would line up and snap the ball. I was sure it was going to be a story somewhere. Id never heard anything like it and couldnt believe they were getting away with it. I keep thinking it was during the Pats/Broncos game but not sure? Almost like a horn sound along with the loud crowd noise. I could see Boston pulling some BS like that, I despise everything Boston, more than NY now and thats saying something.

    • pjcostello

      What the Eagles lacked is what the Lions have: Stephen Tulloch at MLB, a run-stuffer who plugs up the holes left by the wide-9.

      • cliff henny

        Ryans looks like run stuffer now that he doesnt have guard on him in 1 second, like in ’12, or sopaoga shoved back into him in 1/2 second.

        • pjcostello

          He does, in THIS defense, and with better players in front of him.

          • cliff henny

            not sure combining mike singletary and dick butkus could have stopped some of those holes wide9 created in ’12. sure farley and suh help, just hard to believe kelly cant scheme runs on 1st and 2nd after the garbage we watched.

  • Clamdigger

    One of these days, Cole is going to knock out an official with his sack celebration.

    • anon

      If James Casey gets another first down. I can’t believe he doesn’t see the field more — he’s so psyched up.

  • anon

    Chipwagon on Bryce Brown, my favorite RB. http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2013/12/the-bryce-brown-fallacy-sort-of.html#more

    Is our O-line actually terrible at run blocking? Is that actually where we are going in our draft. Seems like something that we ignore when talking about draft. But the PFF numbers are dreadful. I think McCoy is covering up for a lot of ails of the o-line. Remember all of those long runs McCoy had in the first couple of days — haven’t seen anything more than a 12-15yds since then.

    • BlindChow

      McCoy had a 30 yarder against Green Bay and a 35 yarder against the Cardinals called back because of an Avant penalty.

      His longest run in San Diego was 17; his longest in Denver was 15.

      • EaglePete

        also, its not like those plays are an every week occurrence or even 2 weeks. They are kind of rare and were lucky to even have a guy who can break one open. Some RBs dont even have that break away speed to take one to the house.

    • EaglePete

      thats a good read, thanks. Its nice to have a guy like bb though waiting in case shady gets injured. I like our RB depth.

      • anon

        Agree, but makes me more worried about our o-line. We were able to get sweeps in last year. I’d be less worried if it was just against AZ that we couldn’t get outside running plays completed, but i think we have real issues in the run game. Shady has ok numbers, but it’s shady.

  • GEAGLE

    Chips press conference today was hysterical GOLD!! Jealous of Kapadia for being there…

    • cliff henny

      good, like the after chip press conference emails. hope he went after Les again

      • Adam