What They’re Saying About the Eagles

Here’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about Nick Foles, Chip Kelly and the Eagles this week.

Peter King of TheMMQB.com weighs in on the future with Foles:

I don’t know if the Eagles, who will have to beat Dallas in Week 17 and probably need other help before then, can win the division. I do know Foles has given Kelly and GM Howie Roseman a lot to think about after the season in draft prep. Maybe Philly ignores the strong crop of quarterbacks in the 2014 draft, re-signs Vick at a reasonable, incentive-based wage, and goes with the same three passers next year: Foles, Vick, Matt Barkley. The physical toll of the position has shown this year, with Vick and Foles being out for periods after big hits. Kelly might figure he needs three he trusts to make it through a 16-game season.

In an NFL.com article, Brent Celek offers up a huge endorsement for his coach:

“Chip’s a beast,” Celek said. “Our tempo on offense is crazy. It’s such a great scheme. And it scares people who don’t want to change, but they don’t see what we’re doing.

“Talk to any coach on our staff, and they’ll be doing this system for the rest of their lives — because it makes sense. It’s genius. Someone took the time to sit down and figure out a better way to do this. Why have nine or 10 words for a play? We have one, or two or three.

The Eagles are all the way up to 10th in ESPN.com’s power rankings:

The Cardinals blitzed on 70 percent of Nick Foles’ first-half dropbacks Sunday. Foles was 10-of-14 for 138 yards and two touchdowns against the blitz before Arizona adjusted. Too little, too late.

Robert Mays of Grantland says Foles is for real:

The other side of that argument is that the defining part of Kelly’s offense is tempo above all else, and having a quarterback who’s able to control the game at that speed is the no. 1 factor in its success. Foles has done that. And if he isn’t the quarterback of the future for Kelly, there will be a quarterback-needy team willing to pay up for him. If this continues, that may never be an issue. Nick Foles is for real, and at least for this year, it might be enough to send the Eagles to the playoffs.

Don Banks of SI.com says Foles’ ascension reminds him of another QB situation:

I live in the Philly area these days, and some of the skepticism about Foles reminds me of those Patriots fans who continued to cling to the notion that Drew Bledsoe was the team’s future, even while Tom Brady’s ascension continued and New England made the 2001 playoffs and put together a Super Bowl run. I say trust your eyes on this one. Foles looks like an NFL starting quarterback to me, a very good one at that.

Gregg Easterbrook of ESPN.com on the Eagles’ four-game winning streak:

Philadelphia’s up-down-up season is confounding all predictions. One subtle factor for the Nesharim is that the same five offensive linemen have started every game, and now understand what Chip Kelly wants them to do. Another is that Nick Foles is studying the playbook and following it; Michael Vick, for all his talent, was prone to freelancing. The key is an improving Eagles defense, which allowed 35 points per game in the first month of the season, and has allowed 18 points per game since.

Chris Burke of SI.com has a new mock draft out. He projects Michigan State CB Darqueze Dennard to the Eagles at No. 20:

Merely sliding up a cornerback here. Dennard was a Lion as of Mock 3.0, but with the Eagles’ pick in that first draft now up at No. 17, to Chicago, Philadelphia nabs the Spartan instead. He’s just what Philadelphia needs: an aggressive, physical cornerback capable of playing in man coverage.

Doug Farrar of SI.com provides a list of under-the-radar contenders that includes the Eagles:

Nick Foles is coming off one of the the single best months for any NFL quarterback … well, ever with his 152.8 passer rating in November. And his 19-0 touchdown-to-interception ratio is singularly impressive. But the thing that has Eagles fans excited about their team’s playoff hopes is a defense that has turned things around after a very rough start. Under defensive coordinator Billy Davis, Philly hasn’t given up more than 21 points in a game since Sept. 29.

Football Outsiders’ numbers point to the Eagles as the top team in the league since Week 9. They had Foles’ Week 13 performance as the seventh-best of any QB:

Foles hit Zach Ertz for a 24-yard touchdown in the third quarter that put Philadelphia ahead 24-7. For the rest of the game, he went 1-of-7 for 9 yards with more sacks (two) than first downs (one).

Brian Billick of FoxSports.com ranks the Eagles ninth:

Nick Foles now has 19 touchdowns without throwing an interception this season and leads the NFL with a 125.2 passer rating this season.

Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com has the Eagles 10th in his power rankings:

Nick Foles is on a roll, but the Eagles face a tough challenge this week against the Lions.

Pat Kirwan of CBSSports.com has the Eagles 11th:

The defense is improving on a weekly basis and Nick Foles is impressive the way he takes care of the ball and throws touchdowns. It’s a big game this week against the Lions with a pass rush that will challenge Foles.

Editor’s note: We initially linked to the wrong version of Kirwan’s power rankings.


Elliot Harrison of NFL.com has the Eagles 13th:

Old St. Nick is at it again. We asked earlier in the season, in this very space, why Nick Foles couldn't be the guy -- and I was viewed as a crazy person for suggesting Foles get every opportunity to supplant Michael Vick. That said, no one, including yours truly, imagined him scoring 21 total touchdowns with just one turnover (a fumble) this season. For a second-year pro to attempt nearly 200 passes without giving up an interception is incredible.

Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk has the Eagles 10th:

Maybe Chip Kelly has been talking so fast lately so no one thinks to ask him why Nick Foles wasn’t the Week One starter.

Frank Schwab of Yahoo Sports' Shutdown Corner has the Eagles ninth:

See that last sentence about the Lions? Well, it applies here too, if they win the East. But the takeaway from this season is that Chip Kelly’s offense should be great once it accumulates better talent.

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  • mfm

    what about that awful Ashley Fox article? She was getting shredded on ESPN.com yesterday.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10064958/philadelphia-eagles-coach-chip-kelly-winning-unnecessary-risks-cost-team-long-run

    We need a good contrarian article too – not just all the pundits finally coming around to the glory of Chippah.

    • Adam

      What really needs to be analyzed about this play is why the Cardinals sent Patrick Peterson out to cover Nick Foles?

      • joethomas215

        Probably because it would be embarrassing to have a Qb catch a jump ball for a TD over a smaller corner. Nick is 6’6″, Chip is crazy enough to try it, Arians probably didn’t wann.a see that highlight for 10 years

        • anon

          nick does play bball it’s a simple post move, probably something he does all the time. It’s actually maybe a crazy smart play considering Nicks size/skill. Take an undersized DB into the post body him for the ball. If that was the plan I love CK.

          • GEAGLE

            Crazy like a Fox…if Georgetown and Baylor tried to recruit him, then he can catch a fade against someone he has 5 inches over…DAMN YOU BRAD!!! FOles woulda caught a TD, he would be a GOD to the national media by now..
            ..
            Throw for 3TDs and catch a TD? Lol There is NOTHING I want to see more than that hahah? damn you Brad!!

          • UncleCarm

            Before the Cards game they were showing Foles warming up and he was catching his own balls. Often times there is some assistant near the QB who catches them and flips them to the QB. I wonder now, if that was significant. I also noticed that he had good hands.

    • Dominik

      Classic Fox. Damn she’s stupid. I guarantee you one thing: if we beat the Seahawks in the NFC CCG 49:3, she’d still criticise Kelly for the challenge he threw, eventually losing it, which gave the Hawks 3 points. “You can’t win the Superbowl like that”. Well, you can, if you score 49 points, you nutshell.

      I’m no optimist and of course Kelly deserves some criticism for some of his decisions. Every coach does. But the obtrusiveness of her criticicm for those trifles – incredible.

      • Adam

        Hey Dominik, Saw Billy D said the other day that Larry Fitz is ONE of the best WR in the league, but that Megatron was THE best. So there ya go, haha.

        • Dominik

          Lol. He seems to read the comments here. ;) On the other hand: that wouldn’t be such a good idea. :D

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah I laughed when Billy said that…

          • G_WallyHunter

            Imagine if Eagles staff actually read this blog because it’s so good, be funny. Won’t go anywhere near any other media

          • Joe from Easton

            I’ll bet some assistant’s assistant somewhere has the responsibility of “keeping in touch with the pulse of the fans” and is forced to read this shit against his own will for hours a day. haha. I’d take that job, by the way. HIT ME UP HOWIE!

      • Andy124

        I like Ashley Fox. She’s a poor man’s Rachel Nichols, so anytime I hear her name it makes me think of Rachel Nichols. I like things that make me think of Rachel Nichols.

    • DEBO 215

      She is dumber then a bag of bricks.

      • Andy124

        The NAABB (National Association for the Advancement of Bags of Bricks) would like to have a word with you.

  • Beastmode

    Kirwan article is from mid Nov FYI.

    • knighn

      Yep. I caught this too. Was wondering if anyone else said anything about it.

  • Carolina boy

    The eagles are on a roll but we must contain Megatron early because we know eventually he’s going to go off just rather it not be all game

    • theycallmerob

      everyone thought Dez would go off, then Cruz, then Fitz…..I’m sure megatron gets his yards, but I’d rather they stop Bush. make DET one-dimensional, and stafford is bound to screw up

      • Always Hopeful

        Seems like a doable plan. Mendenhall was a little too successful up the middle on us early last game, but the D tightened. Haven’t seen much of Bush besides highlights this year. He’s dangerous though as a runner and receiver. Another tough match up for the D. Gotta rattle Stafford’s cage!

        Get to go against the wide 9 Sunday. Lions have talent on D.

        I’m loving these pre-playoff, playoff type games.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Agreed, even though I have Bush as my RB2 this week in a tough week 14 playoff matchup, but I must pick Eagles over Fantasy

        • GEAGLE

          I have Bush and Shady….fortunately I have a first round playoff bye this week so I can root for Bush to get shutdown in peace

          • theycallmerob

            ha, those are my RBs too (plus zac stacy). i missed that bye due to last week’s L (stupid josh gordon), but I’d love to see Bush get shut down! playoffs, baby!

          • anon

            i played against gordon and jeffrey in one league last week — striaght blowout.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Let’s just hope Bush can pull off 20 pts while Eagles still win by 2 possessions (or more)?
            Best case, go Bush and McCoy, nice to be able to watch both RBs in one game eh?

          • GEAGLE

            My other two RBs are Rashard Jennings and Gio Bernard

            My QBs are FOles and Stafford lol (glad I’m on a bye)
            My WRs are: Brandon Marshall,Cooper,Jordy Nelson!TY Hilton
            My TEs are Julius Thomas and ERTZY..Thomas was hurt last week so I got ERTZIES monster game lol

            my defenses are KC and the Eagles lol
            ….
            I’m the only Philly person in my league, so no one could compete with my eagles knowledge, so I got all the birds easy…I tried to claim FOles when Vick got hurt, but someone higher on the waiver claims stole him…which is why I wasn’t all that bummed out about the Dallas game, he was instantly Cut, and I had NO competition for him on the waiver wire cuz everyone thought he sucked lol…picked him up, started him and Coop against Oakland! and they made me look like a Genius to all the Giants,Jets and patriots fans in my league lol

          • anon

            opposite happened to me. played him in 3 leagues during the dallas game. Ls

          • G_WallyHunter

            I got Bush and McCoy too lol, Foles and Desean, wish I had the bye this week, gotta go up against Brees and B Marshall

      • Carolina boy

        Thats tru rob just didn’t believe the defense would turn this fast so every game I’m worried if this the week we go backwards but if we don’t this week I’m throwing all chips in FLYEAGLESFLY

        • anon

          chips should be thrown in week 1. I don’t even know where my chips are anymore.

          It’ll be interesting ot see what reggie does and what their d line can do.

      • mtn_green

        Bill Davis always plans to stop run first. His defense is designed to stop the run with the three DL.
        Davis- stop run with least people possible.
        Reid- apply pass pressure with least people possible.

        • GEAGLE

          what worries me isn’t stopping the run. I’m worried about stopping Bush in the passing game. he is lethal out of the backfield

    • southy

      I hope Sconces has some kind of head-games planned to slow him down, ’cause the usual strategy of letting him catch it and then tackling him ain’t gonna work.

  • Cantore

    I beg the Weather Gods to make it a cold, blustery day on Sunday that negates the passing game and this becomes Shady shredding the Lions defense for four quarters.

    • Dan

      38º with snow showers.

    • Brian

      The Lions ‘D’ is the 3rd best against the run. Let’s hope it’s not too cold to throw the ball.

      • theycallmerob

        eh….cards were 2nd against the run, McCoy still had 100+ all purpose. Bring on the lions pussycats

        • Brian

          Good point. Yards are yards.

    • mtn_green

      Lions have a bottom ten secondary. But do well against the run. They’ve allowed a 100 yard receiver every game and 2 TD by a Wr every game.
      The book on lions says ‘air it out.’ Chips gonna run the ball till the box is stacked then take advantage of single coverage.

      • GEAGLE

        FOles is going to stay away from Quinn and Dissect this secondary and LBs in coverage. TEs will still have a nice roll this week, but our WR I will have a bigger role then last year..l

        My main concern is turning up the heat on Stafford the way we did right away against Carson, and keeping Suh’s big violent dirty paws off of the rainmaker

  • theycallmerob

    strong crop of quarterbacks in the 2014 draft

    really? still that strong? meh

    Talk to any coach on our staff, and they’ll be doing this system for the rest of their lives — because it makes sense. It’s genius. Someone took the time to sit down and figure out a better way to do this

    love this quote. great to see everyone buy in so completely. few coaches hold such sway

    • Eagledelphia

      My thoughts exactly on the quarterbacks hell I hadn’t heard Teddy Bridgewater’s name in about a month until recently, Mariota is staying, Mettenberger sucks and now Derek Carr is projected top 5 from some outlets

    • evanphilly

      Did he write this before Mariota said he was going to stay and the news came out on Mettenberger?

    • mtn_green

      Celek is so ‘positive’ in his interviews that the hyperboles keep coming and coming.

      • Richard Colton

        There has literally never been a player in the entire history of the NFL (or any professional/amateur sport) who engages in hyperbole as much as Celek. Ever.

        • Andy124

          What you did there. I see it.

          • Richard Colton

            damn you Andy. you’re always blowing up my spot.

          • Andy124

            That’s just howie do.

  • theycallmerob

    what’s with Kirwan? 8-8 wins the division? is he even following football? for the Eagles to win at 8-8, the ‘girls would have to lose out.

    • Andy124

      That’s from a couple weeks ago (after the GB game, the 10 td’s the last two weeks is the give away). Cowboy’s were 5-5 then and it looked like 8-8 really could win the division.

      • Dominik

        I asked myself if he’s drunk. But yeah, from a couple of weeks ago makes sense.

        • BlindChow

          Also, Foles hasn’t thrown 10 touchdowns in the last two games.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Then he says “birds already have 5 wins”? I don’t get it.

      • BlindChow

        Those wins where Foles got lucky don’t count.

        • G_WallyHunter

          so none?

          • Richard Colton

            checkdown victories only count for .66

    • anon

      it’s annoyng when people don’t update their analysis. No way that’s right at all.

  • G_WallyHunter

    Classic Florio, always has to find something negative or “against the grain” to talk about

  • Stuart Philp

    Just for fun, massaging the stats a little bit…

    The 18ppg on defense in the last 8 weeks would be good for 5th in the league overall, tied with Cinci and just behind KC at 17.8.

    If we take the two anomalies on offense, the giants and cowboys games where we scored 3 and 7 points and bumped those to a modest 20 points (still below our current 25ppg average), we would not only be 9-3, but we’d be 3rd in the league in scoring with 330 total points, or 27.5ppg, edging out the Cowboys’ 27.4 and a bit under Seattle’s 28.3.

    Yes, the #3 offense and #5 defense. Not bad for a first season!

  • Tom W

    I think Dennard is good but may be too short for Chip — he has his measurables for a starting outside corner and I don’t think 5’11 (maybe 5 10) is going to cut it.

    If the team philosophy is to build through the draft and add pieces in free agency, Byrd, Orakpo, Verner, and E Decker are all franchise type players who will warrant big ass contracts .. not sure this is the year Howie goes that direction … except for Verner who will be 25 next year … 8-9 mill a year for him .. age warrants he still has time to grow w the team and avoid the big head…

    That being said, the emergence of Cooper, Fletcher, Allen, Wolfe, Ertz, Logan and Cole (and his 5 mil in dead money if cut) and Graham (over 3 mil if cut) make next years draft truly a mystery… aside from trading graham or cole

    1) pass rushing olb — a number of guys could work here but if chip sticks to his H/W/S could be murphy from stanford 6 6 (olb/de) or van noy from byu or hubbard from bama who is 6 5 and young. I’d trade up for the kid from Buffalo ahead of Buffalo to get Mack personally .. best defensive dominating performances week in and week out … Ohio State game made me speechless also kid from Oregon in the mid rds is very possible

    2) big corner — no one really big is jumping out at me .. alot of strong 5 10 – 6 foot guys … kid from Oregon obviously but he is only 5 10 … Gilbert and Fuller both 6 ft from ok st and va tech. … Depth this year at deepest position means we could probably wait till rd 2 to get a corner to replace Williams or atleast push him and give us much needed depth

    3) free safety — after Haha from Bama no safeties grade out very high

    4) big wr — Mike Evans obviously is everyone’s favorite, but two highly talented red shirt sophomores to drool over if they come out — Benjamin from FSU (2-3) who just blew up last week in a big way is 6 5 w hops and Devontae adams from Fresno (2) who is 6 2 and fast .. looks good w Carr’s brother Robinson from psu too but i wonder about the talent pool in the big 10 these days.

    5) bpa — best player that drops …

    Gonna be a fun ass offseason

    • cliff henny

      nice to have confidence in howie and kelly, as i dont feel like there’s scenario A followed by 2 or 3 distant B’s then just crap. i can see all those olb (except hubbard, dont like him at all in 2nd) and wrs, plus 3 or 4, multiple cbs, byrd ward or clemmons at safety…basically about 20 different and equal really good ways to significantly upgrade, and doesnt require heaven and earth to move, like mack falling to 20 or evans being 2nd rdr.

      • GEAGLE

        I don’t think Evans will make it passed the ravens….Flacco taking the loss of Anquan way too hard

        • theycallmerob

          dunno, if there’s a good OL prospect I’d bet my right *** they grab him.

    • Stuart Philp

      We look to be in a good position to just take the BPA, whether that’s Haha, or Evans, or anyone else. I think we all agree that LB S CB and WR are likely the first 4 picks (not in order).

      • Richard Colton

        the more we win, the less likely we’ll be able to target a specific player or position in round one. Then again, Birds are notorious round one traders – I wouldn’t be opposed to dealing a few picks to move up. Howie is 2-for-2 in round one so far.

        • GEAGLE

          I could see Howie trading up for Mack truck or Evans

          • Richard Colton

            that could take moving up 10 spots. be a lot to give up. I might do it for Mack. imagine what he would look like coming off the edge.

      • GEAGLE

        NO!! We DONT agree that CB is a top 4round pick….not this year ATleast. Maybe in 2015

        • Richard Colton

          Maybe. It’s a position of need – especially when you consider our dime is Roc Carmichael. 16 CBs were drafted in the first 3 rounds of the 2013 NFL draft. When the Eagles set their board up, if the Corner they rated at top 6, top 8 at the position falls to them in the 4th round, you don’t think the Eagles would bite? I’d be angry if they didn’t.

          • GEAGLE

            We don’t have a dime defense, if we planned on playing a DIme, i could see us drafting a CB high this year…you know me, all I really care about is the defense and our Saint…I’ll gladly take a future probowler at any defensive position…But when I look at our situation and look at the CBs in round 1 of THIS draft class, I have a hard time envisioning us taking a CB…….CB is NOT a strength of this draft. I see VERY LITTLE difference between the CBs slotted to go in round 1 and the ones projecting for rounds two and 3…We can get Louchez from Florida in round 2 and he isn’t really any different than what we can get in round 1….there are a lot of CBs being talked about as round 1, yet only one of two I can actually see us taking..but what do I know? We shall see…

          • Richard Colton

            Let’s not call it Dime then. Let’s call it – the defense where Roc Carmichael gets on the field (thankfully one play last week). I wouldn’t trade up or reach for one – because we have two serviceable CBs and a really good Nickel. The Mocks that have us grabbing the Oregon CB just seem lazy at this point. But if someone we had highly rated falls…I’m really not going to be unhappy if we wind up with a CB or two in this draft.

            Just for kicks…I’d be most happy if the board & trades shook out this way:
            1) OLB
            2) WR
            3) OT
            4) CB
            5) S
            6) OG
            7) TE/LS

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah mocking the Oregon CB to us is a lazy joke. Not sure how someone looks at the size of the CBs that Chip brought to Philly, see that we don’t play a dime and we already have a 5’10 Nickle in Boykin and conclude that we would draft a 5’10 CB…”but he is from Oregon” lol blah blah
            My wish list would be:
            1) OLB
            2) WR
            3) WR
            4) OG
            5) DT
            5) CB
            6) Colt Lyeria after he gets another DUI or something
            7) RB

            Byrd,Cooper,Colt Anderson in FA…..I would actually really be pleased with them signing Byrd AND Nate Allen in FA…Nate is a cover guy, I would have him as depth behind Wolff, and play Chung’s 3safety role and backup. Nickle..

            if our safeties are Byrd,Wolff.Nate…Chung and Colt as ST…we would be set at a safety!!!

          • Richard Colton

            “Colt Lyeria after he gets another DUI or something” – he’s turning into our 2014 Honey Badger or Vontaze Burfict, isn’t he? Based on their play alone, he’ll probably go in the 2nd round.

          • cliff henny

            murphy

            landry

            moncrief/benjamin

            og and dt no idea

            exum-6′ 220 va tech

            crowell

            .

            site was updated today

            http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/RB

          • Tom W

            2 wrs? and resign cooper and pay djax 10 mill a year????? we never play 4 wide that often … doesn’t that same dime argument you made kinda dictate against taking 2 wrs? or even 1? I mean we are shallower at corner than we are at wr …

          • GEAGLE

            Jeff Maehl plays more than Roc…I have a sneaking suspision that Chip wants to redo the WR corp…we need ATleast 5 if NO WRs get injured that is. Avant has to go, Damaris has to go, whether Maclin comes back or not you can’t trust him next year!same with Benn….
            ..

          • cliff henny

            what’s nice is most mock drafts work…cause we know what kelly wants! i generally ignore mock drafts cause 99% are stupid, have evans in 2nd, joyner in 3rd, just riduculously loaded drafts. i can find 6′ 200+ corner in 4th round that projects nicely, and i have basically no clue…imagine what howie gamble and donahue are able to do?

          • Richard Colton

            I know. The only ones I ever pay any real attention to are A) my own and B) Don Banks’ final mock – usually scary right

          • Tom W

            Cornerback is the deepest position in this draft. Not elite level but 10 or so guys.

          • GEAGLE

            Depends your definition of deep…if Deep means a lot of future NFL players, then yeah CB is a deep position this year… If deep means starting stud Caliber, then I don’t think CB is deep at all…we might as well agree to disagree because I won’t change my mind on this…CB is a position you can improve by improving the other positions…once we add a sack master OLB, and our CBs are getting higher quality safety help, you will all see that our CBs are fine….I would like to add a probowler at every single position on the defense, but what I want doesn’t matter…my HYPOTHESIS is WE DONT draft a CB in the first 2 rounds for sure…I will compromise and say the 3rd is a possibility but most likely I think Howie will want to keep our 3 starters so he will look for a 4th round Boykin type, or a 5th round Wolff type corner..
            …..

          • Tom W

            I agree. I can understand not in the first round, but his argument below basically admits there are good corners in rds 2 and 3 we can take. Last time I checked pass coverage was still an issue but more so depth and talent at that position.

            Can’t see guard over a corner either unless there is uber value in rds 2 and 3. can always get a guard later.

      • southy

        We need to draft Haha. That would give us the ‘Sean trifecta of LeSean, DeSean, and HaSean. Merrill Reese’s brain would explode.

    • GEAGLE

      We aren’t drafting a corner in round 1…Dennard like OLOMU are too short for us…This isn’t a great crop of CBs…if we do draft one, it would prob be Gilbert or the kid from VCU, but I’m convinced NO corner will be added before round 4

    • GEAGLE

      I could see us trading up for Mack…but Van Noy or Stanford kid will due…someone turned me off on Hubbard, and since then I been watching him closely and he doesn’t excite me…
      IMO there are only about 15 prospect in round 1 that I could see us going after. Keep in mind, when the eagles do their big board! and follow it to draft BPA …that big Board isn’t a ranking of ALL the prospects. There will be round 1 prospects that we don’t even put on our big board…I think OUR first round pick will be one of these names:
      Khalil Mack (trade up)
      Van Noy
      Murphy OLB Stanford
      Vic Beasly…looks like Cole and Graham can hold down the fort while Beasly Adds weight
      Louis nix NT FREAK like Poe
      haha Clintn Dix Safety
      Shede Hagemen Caleus Cambell jr.
      Cyril Richardson OG Baylor
      Mike Evans WR
      Sammy Watkins WR
      Jordan Mathews WR

      I think one of these names will be an eagle after round 1

      • GEAGLE

        If Gilbert who basically is a Bradley Fletcher clone is the BPA, I could see them adding him. But I really don’t expect us to draft a CB..

        personally, I will be happy with ANY round 1 pick that turns out to be a probowler that can help Folesy. I have my oppinions on what I think Howie will do with the pick! but at the end of the day, get me a probowler at a position other than QB and I will be happy….I just have a hard time us passing on some of these round 1 prospects to go with a CB, especially since we don’t play Dime. I would love if we made a splash and signed the kid from the Titans, but I really don’t like this draft class for round 1 CBs…especially when the STRENGTHS of this draft are pass rushers and WR, two positions I think we need more than CBs

        • Tom W

          Heard Jeremiah report most nfl gms see the deepest position in this draft is cornerback followed by wr and passrushers …. not patrick petersons but a number of guys who could go from 18-32 and a ton in the second and third round. Worth waiting on till the second round or later like I said.

          Don’t really see how you figure we wont draft a corner in first few rounds … just bc we dont play dime that often. Clearly cornerback is a premium position. clearly shutdown corners are sought after. Williams is servicable at best in coverage. Fletcher has the potential to be a good #2 if he can ever stay healthy which he hasn’t been able to do again this year. Boykin is a top slot corner at best. No depth or young prospects beyond them on the team. I would argue we are shallowest at corner (and safety) and don’t have top end talent. Passing league, etc. Aside from pass rusher, corner is biggest need. Combined w corner arguably the deepest position of the draft, I think it would be foolish not to address the position early in the draft considering we also ignored it last year in the draft.

          We could always resign Maclin and keep Cooper … the same argument that we hardly ever go 4-wide dictates against forcing a wr pick (although I think we draft one in top 4 rounds).

          I just wouldn’t generalize the birds dont go corner in first 3 rounds …

          • GEAGLE

            If I don’t think we are adding a CB in the first 3 rounds, what you want me to do? Lie? And tell you I think we will? Lol
            I Believe Chip plans on sticking with Cary and Brad ATleast thru next year possibly the year after. Boykin will be our Nickle forever and we like Roc…so I don’t think you are getting another CB this year til the 4th or 5th round.,Earl Wolff style

      • cliff henny

        good list, someone will be there at about 20. i’d prefer bpa at wr or olb. other safety is joyner our of fsu, but only 32 1st rounders, someone has to fall

        • GEAGLE

          OLB/WR is at the top for me as well….I think those are the strengths of this draft…
          ..
          I think there are better WR in round 2, then The quality of OLB you will find when we pick in the 2nd, so I put OLB has #1a and WR as #1B at the top of my round 1 wish list..
          ..
          I suspect that we might have to draft two WRs in the first 5 rounds…

          I have missed LSU games the past few weeks, how has their safety Loston been playing?

          • cliff henny

            yeah, agree. i’d only say safety in 1st (loston, haHa or joyner), depending on free agency, still think that’s a stretch. cant see Allen getting much more than an incentive based short term offer, FO saw ’11 and ’12, he’ll have to earn it here. might get better offer somewhere else. like idea of byrd, but his FA contract will throw everything out of whack. if i had to guess, we’ll see mid level signings and draft picks addressing secondary, with more focus building dominant front 7.

      • ICDogg

        I don’t watch as much college ball as some, but I was very impressed with Nix and Van Noy when I have seen them.

        • Richard Colton

          I thought Van Noy was swallowed up by good blockers in the Notre Dame game. disappeared for stretches. I’d rather have Clowney/Barr/Mack…but who wouldn’t? I’m with you on Nix, but would you play him at NT and rotate him with Logan?

          • ICDogg

            Yeah, it would be a tough pick because we already have a good young D-line and even good depth there, and not everyone can play.

            So if they took Nix, it would displace one of the starters we are already happy with.

          • GEAGLE

            Yup!!! I want 6 BEAST DL DOGS to just rotate and create havoc!! Nix and Hagemen I believe will be great NFL linemen so if that’s the best BPA on the board, I’d be happy taking either? Right now we have 4 maybe 5 of our future DL on the roster.
            Thornton
            Cox
            Logan
            Curry
            possibly Kruger
            ..
            So at the very least we need 1 more in our rotation…and the guys we have are so versatile that it doesn’t matter if we add a NT in Nix or a DE like Hagemen who could be the next Caleus Cambell…Replace the Long gathers! with an Explosive Long Stud in Shede hagemen

          • Richard Colton

            if the Eagles are in the market for an Explosive Long Stud, I’m available. Just saying.

      • theycallmerob

        you need to add Joyner to that list….my fav 1st rd prospect right now

  • CrackSammich

    “Brian Billick of FoxSports.com ranks the Eagles ninth:

    Nick Foles now has 19 touchdowns without throwing an
    interception this season and leads the NFL with a 125.2 passer rating
    this season.”

    Billick later added, “This season, this season, this season.”

    Quality editing, FoxSports.

  • Brandon Boykin, OLB

    “The Nesharim have now won four in a row. I will stop bashing them.

    … For now.” ~ Gregg Easterbrook

    • G_WallyHunter

      Why Nesharim? I must have missed that

      • Brandon Boykin, OLB

        Gregge Easterbrook calls them the Nesharim which is the Hebrew word for “eagle.” That in itself is a fallacy, but whatev. Anywho, Hebrew is read from right to left. The Eagle logo is the only NFL logo that points left (yeah I checked when I found that out too. It messes with me EVERY time I see the logo). And there you go.

        I used to be a huge Easterbrook fan. Then he started hatin in 2011. Now, I don’t mess with his a-… tail.

        • G_WallyHunter

          Very odd, but thanks for clearing that up.
          Guy’s an idiot this year, ranks up there with Florio and Fox in my books

      • theycallmerob

        he’s done that for years. hebrew word for eagles; he went with hebrew since it’s read right-to-left, and the eagles are the only team (i think) with a logo that faces that way

  • DEBO 215

    I don’t know if I like a CB in the first round but it’s way too early to speculate draft picks yet. I’d like to see them take another WR if they don’t sign Maclin. Jason Avant is dropping passes and having a lot of trouble getting separation this year. Cooper has emerged as a great talent on the outside or in the slot and he has great chemistry with Foles. If they had another legitimate threat…say if Maclin stayed healthy…kind of a scary thought.
    Mike Evans from A&M is a redshirt sophomore…will he be draft eligible? I’d take him if he’s on the board in a second.

    • Andy124

      Redshirt sophomores are draft eligible. You just have to be 3 years removed from highschool.

      • DEBO 215

        If he’s there when the Eagles pick, if I’m Howie, I’m sprinting to the podium.

        • cliff henny

          so am i! how long would it take me to run from Myrtle to NYC Forest Gump style? cant even imagine shady, jax, ertz, evans and mac/coop.

          • Andy124

            That’s alright, the OLB we’re about to draft will tackle you both before you get there.

            I kid. When you’re drafting 32nd, you really have to stick with BPA.

          • anon

            bpa, coaches seem way to happy with cole who could end up w/ a decent number of sacks this season despite the slow start.

          • cliff henny

            no issue with olb either. i can see a realistic draft, that works very well for eagles by taking olb/wr/s (joyner is a beast, be perfect next to wolff for 10 yrs!) or corner if 1st rd, and working remaining 3 in pretty much any order.

    • Adam

      Would give up my left you know what for Evans, but we’d probably have to trade up for him which I don’t think will happen. Need all of our picks.

  • GEAGLE

    SMH…it’s sad that people are so clueless that Nick had to set the entire league on fire for “experts” to finally get a clue lol..

    For me, the best quotes came from Billy Davis talking about how they are barely ever able to pick Nick off in practice!! I hope next offseason we do joint practices with the patriots again…Nick will be way better by then and I want people to see what he looks like compared to Brady

    • Richard Colton

      Some people still aren’t convinced. #7, BBaaS, and Dutch are in Haiti buying voodoo dolls.

      • BlindChow

        They keep having to stake out spots further down the track, because, dammit, it’s going to crash, I just know it is!

        • Richard Colton

          I have to imagine that trying desperately to disguise your hatred for Foles must be as rewarding as blindly worshiping Mike Vick. Otherwise, why would you bother?

        • theycallmerob

          ….asking for it

    • Jason

      I love the way Foles is playing, but I think we can agree that we need to see less of the this.

    • Joe from Easton

      That is pretty awesome considering Foles said he generally makes throws in practice that he won’t try in games so he can learn his boundaries. Given the Eagle’s propensity to get TO’s this year (never thought I’d say that haha), it’s impressive if they are having trouble getting Int’s against Foles’ self-admitted “dangerous” throws.

      I remember last year during the preseason I was bantering back and forth with guys in the office about Foles. I was just saying how I’m high on him and I like what he brings to the table. I basically said< "you never know what you're going to get until you throw him in the fire, just look at Brady." Naturally they (all cowboys and giants fans with one jets fan) all laughed me out of the office. The other day I went back to my archive and found those same bantering emails and resent them. Needless to say the fans who's QB's are Geno, Eli, and T. Romo didn't have much to say this go around when I said he looks like he has a little Tom Brady in him other than, "yea, he looks good, just wait though…"

      Damn it was sweet.

  • GEAGLE

    During these last 5 games, the FOles era. eagles rank:
    First in offense
    15th in defense
    3rd in special teams!!

  • ICDogg

    The Bledsoe/Brady comparison is an interesting one.

    • Andy124

      Absolutely. I never thought about New Englanders clinging to Drew Bledsoemuchheneededatourniquet.

      • GEAGLE

        The stinker games Brady ahead against buffalo and Miami early on, and Brady’s less then omni potent arm makes it an even more interesting comparison….Not only do I think Nick is a QB who can win games for us, I have a secret….I think he is a Star in the making!! Lol

        • ICDogg

          I’ve previously made the Brees/Rivers San Diego comparison… where SD already had the QB who could have taken them where they wanted to go, but didn’t recognize that and instead put their resources behind a hyped up college QB.

  • Wilbert31

    I hope Don Banks has interns to handle all the emails from Dutch.

  • Justin

    Oh, are we finally getting some respect? Or are they just jumping on the bandwagon?

    • UncleCarm

      Probably just jumping on the bandwagon. It looks like most of these hacks don’t do any research or analysis at all before they open their mouths. That’s why we are all here; our guys do excellent work.

  • Jonathan R. Henry
  • GEAGLE

    I haven’t done my research yet for this weeks game…probably won’t be ready to talk about this match up til Friday…before I dig in and put in work trying to figure out how this game will go…

    can someone in the Know, speak on how the Lions Oline stacks up with The cardinals line?

    • Andy124

      Looks like Football Outsiders has them ranked 13th in run blocking and 2nd in pass blocking. They’ve got Arizona at 23rd and 20th respectively.

      And the Eagles are at 29th and 30th. Here and we thought our OL was doing pretty well.

      • anon

        I’m not surprised. We don’t have a traditional run blocking system for that very reason i think. We have lots of unblocked defenders, rely on double teams, stunts, etc. I think our 4th quarter run game lets you know how our line is blocking.

        Surprised our o-line is so bad at pass blocking, but we did give up 5 sacks and a bunch of knock downs on sunday.

      • bill

        I think some of that comes back to the option plays, where the line is going to block a certain way no matter what, while the QB has the option to hand it off or throw a pass. That probably hurts their pass pro numbers quite a bit.

    • Tom W

      talent wise their oline is awful they lost 2-3 starters from last year but they don’t give up a ton of sacks because of Stafford’s sidearm reckless ability to get rid of the ball in pressure. We can get to him but may not result in sacks versus bad throws or checkdowns to bush via sidearm

  • anon
    • anon

      Donnie jones special teams honors

  • KobraKai7474

    The Frank Schwab comment is kind of silly and reeks of a guy writing without thinking (or researching). Where exactly does this offense need to “accumulate greater talent”? Do they need a better RB than the leading rusher in the NFL? Do they really need a better No. 1 WR than the guy with the 8th highest yardage in the NFL right now? How many left tackles in the NFL are playing better than Jason Peters right now and, while we are at it, how many left guards are playing better than Evan Mathis? Yes, guys like Zach Ertz and Lane Johnson aren’t quite pro-bowlers today, but they are rookies and have obvious talent that they show more and more each week. Of course, a second WR (or a healthy Jeremy Maclin) and maybe a guard to replace Herrimans someday soon would be nice, but, from top to bottom, the Eagles have as much offensive talent as any team in the NFL. Now, if Mr. Schwab has said the Eagles need to accumulate more defensive talent, I would agree with him. They’ve got an improving defense, but a couple of more players at key defensive positions might just make it a great defense.

  • Dreday410

    They do realize that IF the Eagles and Cowboys win but the 49ers lose to Seattle that Philly will be the #6 seed …..

  • Scott J

    No quotes from Ashley Fox? Is she still questioning Kelly’s offense?