Week 12: Eagles Pass-Rusher Rankings

NFL: Philadelphia Eagles at Oakland RaidersAs Connor Barwin finished up with the media last Sunday and got ready to head for the showers, he noticed his teammate Trent Cole had a crowd of reporters around him.

“Hey Trent, say the Bearcats played really good today,” Barwin yelled to a grinning Cole, his fellow Cincinnati alum. “Say that. Tell ‘em how the Bearcats showed up.”

Against the Redskins, Barwin and Cole both set season-highs in tackles. They combined for 21 total, along with three sacks, a batted pass and a forced fumble. All in all, a pretty good day at the office for the Eagles’ starting outside linebackers.


As a team, the Eagles had four sacks and eight tackles for loss against the Redskins.

Below is our weekly look at the overall pass rush. We've added some wrinkles this time around. Last week, many of you pointed out that there is more to rushing the passer than sacks and hurries. And that's true. So I've added batted passes, along with forced holding/intentional grounding calls.

There's probably a good way to weight some of these vs. others, but for our purposes, they all count equally. The pressure percentage number at the end shows the frequency with which each player affects the play when rushing the passer, taking opportunities into account.

 
Sacks
Hurries
Batted
Penalties
Chances
Pressure %
Vinny Curry472214210.6%
Connor Barwin48913196.9%
Fletcher Cox319204115.8%
Brandon Graham14021205.8%
Bennie Logan24001733.5%
Trent Cole37113353.6%
Clifton Geathers0300973.1%
Cedric Thornton17203343.0%
Damion Square0010462.2%

* Sacks, hurries and batted passes are tracked by coaches. I counted up the holding and intentional grounding calls. Pro Football Focus provided the pass-rushing opportunities. And I calculated the percentages.

Notes:

* Through 11 games, Curry has been the Eagles' most efficient pass-rusher. And he's gotten more opportunities recently, averaging over 30 snaps per game in the last three. Curry is tied for the team lead with four sacks.

* Barwin's pressure percentage number really jumps when you start to count batted balls. He has nine on the season, while the rest of the players on this list have totaled eight. Barwin had the huge sack/forced fumble in the red zone last week. He also had a season-high 12 tackles.

* Cox has really played well after a slow start. He was all over the field against the Redskins, finishing with six tackles, two hurries and a batted pass. He also nearly had a pair of interceptions. One was ruled a fumble recovery, and the other hit the ground.

* Graham has been pretty quiet, although he had a nice tackle-for-loss last week. His pressure percentage gets a boost from having drawn a couple holding penalties earlier in the season.

* Logan has three hurries in three starts (four overall). That's the same number that Isaac Sopoaga had in eight starts. Logan has also been significantly better against the run.

* Cole had his first multi-sack game of the year and also chipped in with a season-high nine tackles. In the last two games, Cole has 17 tackles. That's the same number he had in the previous six games combined.

* And Thornton is a good example that numbers don't always tell the whole story. He had six tackles last week, and his pressure led directly to Cole's second sack. He's been arguably the Eagles' most consistent defender all season long.

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  • Joe from Easton

    After years of watching our QB’s (MV7′s) passes getting swatted at the line I can’t tell you how happy I am to have a guy like Barwin ending plays before they even have a chance. He always seems to get his hands up and bat one down just when the birds need that shot in the arm. As everyone knows; incomplete passes have a tendency to stall drives so keep it up CB98.

  • Wildo

    The Eagles only have 18 sacks out of their D-line (to include OLBs) and they’ve still been pretty stout! I’m very impressed with the job Kelly and Davis have done in getting this team to preform better than expected. With a scheme change and new coaches I would say this team had the deck stacked against them coming into the season. I can’t wait to see how well they do after another season with free agency and the draft.. plus the added experience the incumbent players will have. Lots of reason for optimism in Philly these days!

  • BrickSquadMonopoly

    Impressed with Curry he needs to be getting top 3 D-line PT. Would like to see more pressure out of our “best player on defense” C Thornton. And BGrizzles pressure % was higher than I thought, top 3 on team not bad.

  • Bobby

    Vick said on radio show that Foles should be the starting QB….where is the story on this dumb site?
    All the other sites have the story about Vick saying Foles should be starting QB when Vick returns, so why didn’t this website report it?.

    • DirtyWaters

      Please tell me that’s sarcasm.

      • G_WallyHunter

        “this dumb site”
        Harsh words for something that’s premium quality and free, I guess Sheil and Tim can’t please EVERYONE

        • DirtyWaters

          As far as I’m concerned, if it’s not here, it’s not news. Vick’s comments are a non-story. If he had said, “I should start against Arizona.” then it becomes man-bites-dog.

          • G_WallyHunter

            “If it’s not here, it’s not news”
            Exactly how I feel about it, this site has earned that, who cares about Mike Vick stating the obvious on a radio show.

    • RC

      Go to Twitter if you want instant info. Plus, sounds like you just gave us the whole story. Vick would like to see Foles at QB. There. Done. No need to add any speculation like some other sites. This site is for well-scripted analysis of Eagles Football.

      • G_WallyHunter

        and unbiased, I might add

        • Bobby

          Poor reporting, this BIASED website should report that even Vick agrees that Foles should be starting QB….but Mike Miss and his flunky buddies here don’t want to give any credit to Foles.

          • G_WallyHunter

            This unbiased site has constantly supported Foles fairly, why do they need to do that? What do they accomplish by relaying the information that Vick said Foles should start?

          • Joe from Easton

            Dude, this is one of the best local sports “blogs” in the country. You obviously don’t read too many of the articles they author.

          • G_WallyHunter

            That is one thing that is obvious yes

    • theycallmerob

      phew, thank sweet baby jesus Vick finally said it. now it won’t be an issue anymore. not that everyone else had been saying that for weeks, of course

      • G_WallyHunter

        Vick accepted it everyone! He approves, everyone can rest assured..

    • Brian

      Because, the intelligent folks, on this site, already know who the starter is. ; p

    • Andy124

      Oddly enough, they also failed to write an article revealing that water is wet.

    • Justin

      If you don’t like the stories here, feel free to leave. You won’t be missed.

  • Broadcasting Wisdom

    How can you talk about Barwin’s Bearcat comment and leave out the fact that Celek had that explosive screen play and Kelce held it down at center?

    • PC

      Because it’s a post about pass rushing

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Umm, sorry BW but PC gotcha there & unfortunately all he did was stayed the umm obvious.

        All in fun!

    • Explorer51

      As an aside, are the Eagles the only team in the NFL that has 4 Cincinnati Bearcats on the roster? What’s up with that?

  • Mark Saltveit

    Excellent analysis. Since we’re tweaking the numbers, shouldn’t you add forced fumbles by the quarterback? Or, more expansively, any TFL or FF behind the line of scrimmage.

    • bentheimmigrant

      Those won’t all be pass rushing opportunities.

    • GEAGLE

      I find it very hard to believe that Cox hasn’t forced a single holding penalty

      • BlindChow

        Never hold another team’s Cox.

  • DirtyWaters

    If Cole finishes out the season strong, do they let him walk? I’m a little torn. I really like the guy but I have a hard time seeing him here next year. I think I want to see a high draft pick used for that spot. Two vets and two kids would be nice balance for the LB corps. Offense-schmallfense, let’s talk D all bye week!

    • theycallmerob

      cliff could do a better job with the $$$ aspect, but I think he’d still have to restructure. his cap is too much now for what he brings at that age

      • DirtyWaters

        With another year on him, I think he’d be a liability in coverage, even at a reduced price. The best I could see is a situational pass rusher and I think we know Chip doesn’t like one trick ponies.

      • cliff henny

        thanks man…after way he played, his sal is 6.6m, dead is 4.8m…think anyone out there willing to play for 1.8m can play the way he did against Wash?
        .
        restructuring, wonder how that would work. if he’s out of guarented money, that would be major option. but generally those come with extra time and toss in more guarenteed money for the players trouble. this is what dallas is doing hand over fist, and all it does is cause a problem to become a greater issue 2 or 3 yrs down the road. do think cole is out of the guarenteed part of his contract, so that might work. still think 3rd down rush specialist for 2 more yrs would be fine.

        • nicksaenz1

          Very tough to restructure, depending on the deal he’d be willing to take. You still eat the dead money hit and you add on the portion of the “signing bonus” in the first year plus whatever salary they’d agree to. IMO, if you’re not releasing him, it’s better to just ride out his current deal next year and look at it after 2014.

    • GEAGLE

      Dog, I could talk defense all year….although FOles has helped me get excited about offense again

      • DirtyWaters

        It’s been a long time (if ever) that I’m excited about offense, defense, special teams, coaching, our draft picks and the direction of the franchise. I’m more excited about 6-5 than any 8-3 of the past. I don’t really care if we make the playoffs this year. What the hell has happened? I feel like I got out of a stale marriage and now I’m the warden of a women’s prison with a fist full of pardons!

  • theycallmerob

    Berwin! T-1st in sacks, 9 PBUs (3rd most on team, 3rd most of any NFL LB, top 20 in NFL overall), and 2nd most hurries on the team.
    All that plus the run support? worthy of an avatar

    • GEAGLE

      BRAMA BULL is in the BUILDING!!!

      What i love is that his batted passes aren’t just him throwing his hands up when he is out of the play…Dude uses his basketball background to GET UP and Motumbo That ISH!!! love to see him give the next QB the Motombu Finger Waiving!!!

      First Time Howie ever had to pick a 3-4OLB or a two gapping Dlinemen, and he comes away with the STEAL of FA( if you factor in play,leadership, and the reason price we got him for)..and plucked a Gem with violent hands out of round 3 in Logan…Howie?Gamble? New scouts? Stoutland? Azz? Someone knew what they were doing…

      • southy

        bet it was Stoutland who flagged Bennie up.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        No, no, no…Not in my house!

        • Andy124

          Those commercials were great. My daughter, who was 3 or 4 when she saw them, thought he was SOOOO mean. Freaking hilarious.

          • Jerry Pomroy

            Yeah my boys loved them too. I used to run around the house swatting down everything (tosses into the trash/recycle can, the bedroom door nerf basketball, etc) & then giving them the line & the gesture, including to my wife. Yeah I’m a big kid and although I’ve got 6yrs on her, it’s my schoolboy antics that make her laugh & one of the reasons why she can’t resist me.

      • Andy124

        Motumbo that ish. Nice. I like it.

      • ronnieblowhard

        Yeah, his new scout is Chip Kelly. The guy had a masterful first draft. I’m interested to see if Joe Kruger develops into something by next year. I believe he’s on the practice squad this year, but he’s young.

    • Chris

      everyone is changing avatars and i’m so confused!!!!!!!!

  • Andy124

    Chiefs resign Chad Hall.

    Andy Reid overheard saying, “I wish I knew how to quit you.”

    • cliff henny

      prediction, 9-0 start, leads to 1st round loss. by ’16, barely 8-8 club as every team vultures that defense and sutton is given HC job. reid just cant help himself.

    • GEAGLE

      Bwahahahahahahah every time I get out! his boyish good looks pull me right back in!!!

    • theycallmerob
      • G_WallyHunter

        LMAO best work in years, I too, hope he lives forever

    • Jerry Pomroy

      As the theme from the last American virgin plays in the background…Cue music…

      “I gave my all, but I guess my all may have been too much. Cause here we are back where we were before. Seems we’re always blowing whatever we’ve got going…

      Just once, can we find a way to make this right. Make the magic last for more than just one night. I know that we can do it, if we can just stick through it.”

  • Bobby

    Vick said on radio show that Foles should be the starting QB….where is the story on this dumb site?
    All the other sites have the story about Vick saying Foles should be starting QB when Vick returns, so why didn’t this website report it?.

    This is a top story and topic, yet SILENCE from this biased website.

    • Andy124

      Listen Robert. The authors of this site have made no bones about the fact that Nick should be, and barring something mind blowing, will be starting the rest of the way.

      The fact that Vick acknowledged the obvious just doesn’t rate that high.

      Worth a post? Sure. Big deal? Nah. Prefer the analysis pieces any day of the week.

      • G_WallyHunter

        ehhhhh, east side marios eh Bada Bing Bada Boom

      • cliff henny

        fact that he’s copying and pasting same post, trying to stir up people off topic…gotta go with troll on this one

        • Andy124

          Seems likely.

          Could be someone who’s been drowning in the Vick love of others, doesn’t know this site for what it is, and is just overcompensating. Seems less likely.

      • Bobby

        You don’t want them to report on the biggest topic of the Eagles, which is who the startin QB should be?….okay, I’ll let you guys go back o sleep now, I’m outta here.

        • GEAGLE

          Bye dutch

        • reb

          Actually no longer the biggest topic, really.

    • cliff henny

      heard you 1st time you posted it, hasnt gotten any smarter in 45 mins. or did you get confused which sites and articles you’ve trolled?

    • DirtyWaters

      Hey Marcus Vick! nice of you to drop by.

      • Bobby

        Hey Dirty Waters, I’m not complimenting Vick, moron….I’m showing the awful job this site is doing reporting the hottest topic regarding the Eagles, which is who is the starting QB….Chip won’t say, but Vick just did, but this biased site will not report this information.

        • G_WallyHunter

          you’re delusional

          • GEAGLE

            He is just providing us our Dutch fix….it’s incredible how much smarter FOles made our comment section…it’s about time a fool comes along and keeps us on our toes…let’s see just how dumb he can get lol

        • Joe from Easton

          How is it biased to not report that? Please explain.

          • Bobby

            Mike Miss says on his radio show that Foles stinks and Vick is great….now even Vick admits that Foles is playing better than Vick and Foles should be the starting QB, but these Missinelli buddies here will NOT report that because it shows they were wrong about Foles….that’s biased r and poor reporting.

          • GEAGLE

            Miss is clueless. He has become more worthless than angelcataldi,..I cringe everytime I hear Tim or Sheil associate themselves with his show….the Chip Kelly coaching change has turned the phanatic into a joke. everyone knew what Andy would do, so they were able to hide the fact that they don’t have a clue…but the Chip hiring proved just how clueless that station is…Braise is an idiot..Phil from mount airy is a Vick apologist the epitome of the fan that I despise who just stick with players of their race..Tony Bruno literally has no clue about any sport, and john Marx and Harry mays are just worthless misanelli clowns…to make matters worth they think Sal Pal is an expert lol….only good part about that station is they get a lot of our former players on….sonny hill should NEVER be on the air with his old man hour…there is one good dude on that station,can’t think of hiss name tho..not that idiot Nick kayle

          • Tom w

            Right on all counts. Sports radio in this town is the devil and the epitome why the national media views our fanbase like a group of cataldi clowns

        • DirtyWaters

          You’re right, troll. I am a moron. That’s why I come to this site. I want to read facts and analysis and become more knowledgeable about this team . There are plenty of other sites devoted to speculation, hyperbole, and contrived controversy. Please visit them. I’m sure Florio has an open teat just for you.

      • G_WallyHunter

        if he doesn’t have twitter, the next best outlet is Birds 24/7

    • EaglePete

      its only a big topic to you. I think most are tired of the vick/foles rants. Go back to where you came from, if you dont like it here than you are obviously a few cards short of a deck based solely on the garbage elsewhere. What grown man calls himself Bobby?

      • cliff henny

        back to where he came from…by that, assume you mean philly.com

        • GEAGLE

          Bleedinggreennation fool prob
          ..
          The only site where the owner will argue with you on your first day trying to tell you that Howie Roseman doesn’t ever go on recruiting trips….hahahahahahahaha dude was soooo convinced lol

          • cliff henny

            i’ll read that site every once in awhile, doest seem to be much different than here. just dont like how comment section is laid out

          • GEAGLE

            Dude fought with me til the death on my first day because I said Howie went on recruiting trips lol.”f course the mindless sheep all joined in to fight the new comer…lol 3 days later I post. Video of Howie talking about his ecruiting trips…silence!!

            That worthless clown. Jason B doesn’t run that site any more, so it might be better, I wouldn’t know

          • cliff henny

            seems like an odd thing to argue about…but, sure we’ve argued stupider stuff here. like cutting graham or cole…sure if howie read those threads, he’s wondering how in the world is he going to deal with us lunatucs(me included)

          • GEAGLE

            WE ARGUE about stupider stuff here…but you damn sure won’t see Tim or Sheil rudely welcome a new poster, talking such stupidity as Howie and NFL GMs don’t go on recruiting trips….I never once seen TM or SK act like disrespectful dochebags to a new poster, or anyone for that matter

          • bentheimmigrant

            I think they know better than to come down to our level. But it must be pretty hard resisting some of the dumber stuff that gets posted on here.

          • GEAGLE

            I’m banned from that site anyway lol…I brought about 80% more accurate info to that site than anyone else including the writers during my time posting there, and I’m banned lol….

            Tim and Sheil despise me, but they aren’t petty and caddy enough to ban a semi accurate poster
            ..
            You all know my oppinions…go read any oppinion piece written on that site from jan to April! and let me know who was right? Me or them? lol I should ban those disrespectful douchebags from writing on their own site lol

          • nicksaenz1

            Cole! It’s gotta be Cole!

          • Andy124

            Jason B wasn’t so great. The site’s fine though. It’s a lot less professional than here, but the writers do a good job injecting humor and they’ve brought in some really good analysis. I like how active some of them are in the comments. Mike Kaye is cool in my book. But due to ease of access, I’m almost never there anymore.

          • GEAGLE

            Everyone knew Andy like the back of their hands so people were able to pretend to know what they were talking about…the coaching change forced writers and analysts to interpret and hypothesize…and if you go back and look at the local coverage we got from April to August…it’s scary to see how worthless 98% of the coverage was….Bobby, for the most part everyone proved clueless, but you damn sure aren’t going to find much better coverage than this site..I can promise you that…if you have a problem with THIS site, I would love to hear which site you respect? Lol Bleecher report? Haha

      • Bobby

        Hey Eagle Pete; you don’t dictate who can post here, loser.
        Do you understand that Petey boy?

        • EaglePete

          wait, you said you were outta here. I mustve got you with that Bobby comment, seeing youre back n all defensive.

    • BlindChow

      So uh, what agenda exactly is Birds 24/7 supposedly pushing by not issuing a Breaking News alert?

      • bentheimmigrant

        And since when was this a breaking news site? They’ll post it eventually, I’m sure.

        Trolls suck. Ruining the thread by making it bigger.

        • BlindChow

          Yeah, Vick/Foles posts get tons of hits, so you can be sure one is coming. It’s Friday during the bye week, so it’s not like there’s an expiration date on this newsflash.

          Of course, now they probably won’t post one, just to spite this guy.

          • bentheimmigrant

            I wouldn’t mind a thread on it though. Vick deserves lots of attention being brought to how classy he’s been. Really a great move by him saying that, even if it’s not really “news”.

    • theycallmerob

      same post twice, huh? maybe you didn’t realize the first time that it’s a non-issue?

    • nicksaenz1

      Because over here, at the intelligent source of Eagles info, it was a no-brainer and wasn’t ever up for discussion. Next.

  • Rick

    Your logic is flawed when computing the stat here. You should not include batted passes, which are not pressure on the QB. Batted passes happen when a defender is stone-walled at the LOS, not when he’s in a QB’s face.

    The team, in general (Curry withstanding), has done an awful job at getting to the QB. Barwin’s number drops to 4% when you take out his batted passes.

    • BlindChow

      Batted passes are important when playing a 2-gap 3-4. Since linemen have run responsibilities as well, there’s a system-instilled hesitation when the ball is snapped. You don’t just charge after the QB every play. You read the play first, to determine run or pass (even the OLB’s have to set the edge against the run–especially important against runners like RG3).

      So if the QB gets the ball out quick enough, it won’t matter how good the pass rush is they have to wait a second before charging. Getting your hands up is one way to mitigate this disadvantage. It also leads to interceptions a lot of the time.

      I’d say batting a pass is a very important part of playing the position, and can understand why those numbers were included here.

      • GEAGLE

        You know before thin season is over, Barwin is gonna jump up in the air and catch the ball instead of batting it right? It’s COMING!!!

        • cliff henny

          he needs to head over to PSU volleyball court, learn how to bat up, not down.

      • nicksaenz1

        Very well stated, sir.

    • GEAGLE

      Hey Dutch, settle down lol..you out your mind if you think Barwin is being stonewalled? Dude isn’t just putting his hands up and getting lucky when he is out of the play…the man is pushing his man back, timing the throw, and getting his ass high up n the air to get his hands on balls..don’t know what Barwin you been watching

    • bentheimmigrant

      You can bat a pass whether there’s a blocker or not. How’s that for flawed logic?

  • GEAGLE

    curry,Cox,Thornton,Logan are barely scratching the surface of what they will be. Azzinaro should get a ton of credit, not really for how they are playing(because I knew that we would have a nasty front 7), what’s REALLY mind blowing to me is how little time coach Azz needed to get them to play at this level considering how big of a transition they had to make..I’m blown away! I can’t stress how impressed I am..like even I wouldn’t have expected them to play this way til December..Azz had them giving Olines HELL in October…that’s Damn IMPRESSIVE!!
    ….
    Then again, I’m not really sure why everyone thought we had NO TALENT on defense to begin with..we had 2 first rounders picked in the top 15, 2nd rounder with no experience,rookie 3rd rounder…2nd rd LB, two LBs from a good Houston defense, and a declining former probowl DE….We NEVER lacked talent, this defense isn’t the NO NAME defense people think it is..these young players just haven’t made their NAMES YET..but It’s coming!!!!!

    • EaglePete

      well, when you put it that way. I was not a believer in this D at all and recall very well you touting Davis. I really was just waiting to see what he could do but wasnt optimistic. I knew we had young guys, waiting to see how they improved and how the new FAs would fit in. Im pleasantly surprised and cant wait to see what they can do against some better offenses. Im not really buying the “havent played anyone” yet stuff, every team is a threat esp now with the rules favoring offenses and points they put up weekly. I think if anything, there is no denying the interior line and improved tackling and scheme everywhere.

      • BlindChow

        Washington has a very good offense (top 5?), so you can definitely give them credit for that.

    • anon

      It looked like we had very little talent last year and at the beginning of this year. Remember that chargers game? Patriots in pre-season?

  • Will

    hello

    • bentheimmigrant

      Is it me you’re looking for?

  • Will

    My First GIF Ever Yeah Baby! is it working or just a still?

  • Will

    My first try at a gif is it working guys?

  • Will

    let’s see if this works Mmmmm…

    • EaglePete

      Im not seeing it

  • bentheimmigrant

    Will… My phone’s browser crashed when I came back on here. Came back and minimised your gif posts and now it’s fine. So let’s not go crazy with your new found superpowers, mmkay?

    • Will

      is the gif running?sorry about the crash

      • bentheimmigrant

        Don’t know… didn’t last long enough to see. Just tried to scroll past your pics and it crashed. Maybe just link them? You could always upload them to imgur.

      • bentheimmigrant

        Oh wait, linking won’t work, as disqus insists on posting the pic you’ve linked to. Never mind.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Which browser do you use? I have an Android and I find Dolphin Browser works really well with this site, curious what others use

      • bentheimmigrant

        Just using safari on iOS. It’s been fine with the shift to disqus mobile, but it apparently didn’t like trying to load those gifs.

  • Will

    wondering what I’m doing wrong works on computer but just a still photo on here

    • BlindChow

      Disqus recompresses photos and converts them to jpg’s when you use the picture button.

      If you got it from a website, you can just paste a link to the original gif, and it’ll show up here animated.

      • Will

        Made it myself but thanks for the tip

      • Will

        Thanks that worked now to see if I can do short game clips next…LMAO….

  • Will

    see if that works

  • Will

    This might work if not I give up…

  • Will

    [URL=http://www.makeagif.com/2C687c][IMG]http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/11-22-2013/2C687c.gif[/IMG][/URL] My new found Super Powers Hooray! LMAO…

  • Will

    [URL=http://www.makeagif.com/amF2NM][IMG]http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/11-22-2013/amF2NM.gif[/IMG][/URL]Last one this is so cool…LMAO…

  • Will

    [URL=http://www.makeagif.com/u0hNFO][IMG]http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/11-22-2013/u0hNFO.gif[/IMG][/URL] This was funny….

    • Will

      Okay not gonna over do my new found Super Human Powers…LMAO…

      • Jerry Pomroy

        Think you’ve already overstepped that boundry. Now can you take your super powers and find a cure for cancer and instill world peace.

        Said with nothing but love bro.

        • Will

          Gotcha….took 3 days to figure it out but yeah enuff said don’t want to get banned…

  • Will

    [URL=http://www.makeagif.com/1TEXmq][IMG]http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/11-23-2013/1TEXmq.gif[/IMG][/URL] Connor Barwin Crushes RGIII…

  • nicksaenz1

    I think it’s awesome that our (mostly) intelligent discussions about the team we all love have helped add the content provided by Tim and Sheil. Good work, team.

  • dollamakeuholla

    I have to admit Howie has been doing a better job, However I don’t think i can forgive him as for every time i watch the Seahawks Defense and see Earl Thomas play i get soooooo angry! I remember watching that draft and when the eagles were about to pick Espn started to play Earl Thomas Highlights because everyone and their brother just knew the Eagles needed a safety! I don’t think i can ever get over this…. Earl Thomas is the premier safety in the league and Graham is just an OK linebacker in the 3-4

  • alex

    The defence has been playing good as a unit recently