Andrews: Time With Eagles a ‘Living Hell’

NFL: Preseason-Philadelphia Eagles at New England PatriotsEarlier this month, Shawn Andrews joined Mike Missanelli on 97.5 The Fanatic to talk about bullying and his time with the Eagles. In doing so, he fired several shots at his former co-workers, including Donovan McNabb.

The former All-Pro Guard expanded on those thoughts in a lengthy feature with Sync Weekly. He said his time playing in Philadelphia was a “living hell” and indicated he could air some dirty laundry if he chose to do so.

“There were so many people that were Christian and going to church and saying, ‘Rookie, be seen and not heard,’ and then I see them in the back of the club doing some not-so-cool things being married. Everything under the sun — trying to tell you how to act. One guy out of the two who I thought I would fully respect during my time in Philadelphia, one of them let me down big time. Every time you see him, he’d have a Bible in his hand, and be coming from Bible study, but I know so many things about him that so many people would not be happy about.”


Andrews went on to say his former teammates spread rumors about him being gay. And he ripped McNabb for always wanting the spotlight on him.

“I could be sitting in the players’ lounge with a group, having some laughs, and he’d get his say in so the attention can shift,” Andrews says. “He was the type of person that had everything in the world he could want, but that still wasn’t enough. He wanted the attention on him. There was a whole lot of that behavior. He wasn’t just that way with me. I’m thinking, ‘Every day I strap on my shoulder pads and helmet, I’m here to protect you.’

“[McNabb] was a big part of it — he was a big part of my issues there. Bully is a strong word, but he was degrading to me and spread rumors. It’s bothered me that I haven’t really spoken about it.”

Andrews added that he was happiest when he was finishing out his career in 2010 with the New York Giants. He now lives in Little Rock, Ark. with his wife and son.

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  • Bird of Prey

    Another person who couldn’t mentally handle the rigors of the locker room. I hope he’s happier now that he’s where he belongs…………. The McNabb doesn’t surprise me at all though.

  • Andrews Sisters

    How can anyone believe anything he is saying. He needs to actually state names and events or keep his mouth shut. Sounds like he’s the one that wants all the attention.

  • Nah__Roots

    Hmm. Andrews talking about team mates letting him down is pretty ironical. Shame, though. When healthy and playing, he was easily one of the best at the position.

    • Richard Colton

      ironic

      • Guest

        Ironical is an acceptable word; however, ironic is more widely used. If I use ironical, I usually use it ironically.

        • Richard Colton

          How do you feel about “yeasting?”

  • theycallmerob

    If he’s trying to throw Avant under the bus, I’ll fight Andrews myself.
    You stay away from Jug hands!!!!

    • Brent E. Sulecki

      jug hands for a reason

    • bentheimmigrant

      Avant was drafted two years after him, so I don’t think he’d be one that he “thought [he] would fully respect”…

      • cliff henny

        not sure why, guy that comes to mind first is Dawkins. married, religious, would have certainly been team leader by then.

        • bentheimmigrant

          Indeed… he said elsewhere that Dawk was the only good guy on the roster. So that would make Dawk the other of the “two”.

          Edit:
          “The only guy I’ll tell you that I could trust on that team was flat out Brian Dawkins.”
          Linky:
          http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/08/shawn-andrews-was-disgusted-by-treatment-he-received-from-donovan-mcnabb/

          • cliff henny

            yeah, good catch, thanks. not sure many are buying what he is selling in general…and to try and say it was dawk would make him look like an even bigger fool.
            .
            other guy i thought, tra thomas. would have been vet, top of his game at that time.
            .
            my guess is there probably a little truth, but the reality and what andrews processed were far far apart

          • bentheimmigrant

            Maybe… I mean, a locker room is full of young rich guys with huge egos. There’s always a few around the league that are falling apart publicly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the “two guys I thought I could trust” comment is a bit off – obviously Dawk would be one, and looking back he probably elevates the other one to that position because of how shocked he was by the behavior.

            At the end of the day, I’m not mad at him. Some people find life really hard, and who am I to judge that?

        • macadood

          came to mind for me too, but dawkins isn’t two-faced.

          • Richard Colton

            Andrews isn’t above attacking Dawkins, McNabb, Phelps…

    • nicksaenz1

      Jugs all up in his hands at the club!

  • Bdawk20

    Sounds like typical locker room stuff. Considering the source, this is a non-story.

    • macadood

      though the pissing on people in the shower was a good story!

      • Andy

        Seriously, though, who among us hasn’t done that?

  • RAW

    The bible comments make me think of Dawk and Avant…seriously, keep your mouth shut. These ambiguous references are bad for everybody

    • TheCatalyst

      No doubt he’s talking about Avant. He wouldn’t go on radio and say Dawk was the only one I could trust, but then come out here and talk about him sideways…or would he?

      • bentheimmigrant

        Probably not Avant, as he wasn’t drafted till 2006. Would have been a couple years before he became the team leader he is now.

      • RAW

        Probably…the only thing that makes me question that is Avant was drafted in 06…two years after Andrews

        • macadood

          I don’t think Dawk would be in the back of the club doing those things. certainly a lot of religious guys on the team i’m sure.

    • bentheimmigrant

      I’m gonna guess Trotter.

      • bentheimmigrant

        Or maybe FredEx.

        • TheCatalyst

          Trot is a good guess.

      • nicksaenz1

        Yeah I was thinking Trot or Dawk

    • Guest

      I can’t remember the exact context/quote but I’ve heard him elsewhere say that Dawkins was basically the one who was constantly positive and supportive on the team

  • bentheimmigrant

    Guys… looking back at the roster it’s obvious who it was… Reno Mahe.

    • knighn

      He called it “Fair Catching”. He would pick up the girl that everyone wanted… and then wouldn’t go anywhere with her.

      • G_WallyHunter

        wouldn’t go anywhere because he ran out of gas? Then went and stole some? Sounds about right

      • theycallmerob

        would explain his nickname….muffmaster (that one’s for you, richard)

    • Scott J

      Why would he “respect” Mahe? He wasn’t a leader on the team. I think it’s Avant.

      • bentheimmigrant

        1) Apparently you missed the “blame everything on Mahe” thing back in the day.
        2) It probably wasn’t Avant, since he was drafted 2 years after Andrews.

        3) There are loads of players on every team that are very openly Christian, so no need to besmirch Avant’s name.

  • southy

    This is just all kinds of sad. Dude, if you have something to say, say it, if you think it’ll accomplish something. Don’t come out with vague accusations and get people speculating (see this comment section) exactly what you mean. Doesn’t do you or the city or anyone else any favors.

    And regards to McNabb, this is nothing we don’t already know. Great QB, not the nicest guy, always concerned about #1.

  • Token

    Man, this guy just cant move on with his life.

  • DirtyWaters

    Man bites dog. What a non story. Everyone knows bibles and wedding rings are chick magnets. Was the Big Cat in NY when they threw Prince in the tub and called him gay? Sounds like a nice place.

    • Coatesvillain

      Prince Amukamara was drafted 2011. Shawn Andrews played for them in 2010.

      • DirtyWaters

        Man, time flies when you’re not getting thrown into a tub of ice water.

  • Adam

    I couldn’t be more disinterested in this Andy Reid era crap.

    • cliff henny

      has it been 300 days or 300 yrs? does feel like a long LONG time ago

  • Richard Colton

    Big Lazy. Never did a player do less with more. The team brought in his brother to help babysit him during the season. Every time I’ve heard him speak I’ve rolled my eyes, so I can imagine Donovan and company doing the same thing when Andrews went on one of his twenty minute tirades about nothing. Waste of talent.

    • cliff henny

      everyone else is the issue, gotta love those people. yet, they never step back and look at the 1 common denominator in equation…themselves. in real life, we are just able to roll out eyes and keep our distance. in nfl, everyone is so relient on eachother, forced together, egos tons of money, can see how nfl lockerroom is a minefield.

  • DirtyWaters

    After signing his 7 years deal in ’06:

    “I would first like to say I think it is a great situation for myself, for my family and . . . the Eagles organization,” Andrews said. “I am going to be here for a long time. This is where I want to be, and this is where I’m going to be.”

  • Weapon Y

    I do have some reservations about what Andrews said but I’m glad that he seems to be happier. It feels like, as time goes on, that my opinion of McNabb keeps getting worse and worse. He sure seems like a cocky POS. T.O. was right.

    • bentheimmigrant

      I suppose it takes one to know one.

      • anon

        yeah but mcnabb probably cost us a chip bc of the to thing.

        • bentheimmigrant

          Not really sure how else the TO thing plays out. He was an idiot everywhere he went. He was simply an unsustainable player. TO is the reason TO left.

          • anon

            TO just wanted to get paid. McNabb didn’t back him up. TO called McNabb out on this shortcomings — it divided the lockerroom and that was that. TO leaving is something that falls on multiple people, including Andy Reid, McNabb and TO.

            Seeing McNabb after leaving Philly i get the feeling he’s a pre-madonna, the more he says the less i like him. TO wasn’t perfect (most stud WRs at that time weren’t) but McNabb’s immaturity didn’t help.

          • bentheimmigrant

            “just wanted to get paid”…. He was making like $8 million, right?

          • cliff henny

            the more he says the less i like him…couldn’t agree more! he was/is my all-time favorite offensive eagle, so i try to seperate the field from the person. gets harder and harder since he no longer has sundays to make up for his mouth. he is just awful on foxsports1 morning show

          • bentheimmigrant

            I’ve kinda come to the conclusion that a lot of what he’s doing/saying now is somewhat forced. I don’t remember having any problems with his personality as a player. Now, he’s trying to make it in a world where being outspoken is more important than being right.

          • cliff henny

            true. in his pressers he’d do those mocking low voice answers, or have that ham and egg face. or get goofy in practice/off-season interviews. guess it’s nitpicking, but time and place for everything. i get it’s different for them as players and us as fans. 10 yrs ago i couldnt even imagine saying this, but like vick’s interviews and personality, he has elements of humor and candid, many folds more than when mcnabb spoke as a player.

          • EaglePete

            eff TO, guy was the absolute worst. I dont blame anyone but him, how can his salary negotiations have anything to do with other players, its between agent and team/coaches. Amazing to me after his behavior on multiple teams that fans still defend him.

          • gruvi

            no one is going to fix primadonna?

  • Explorer51

    Unfortunately, Andrews had emotional stability issues when he was here which clearly had an impact on his career elsewhere as well. What would make anyone think that what he is saying has any credence, including his McNabb pile-on? It’s obvious that Missanelli revels in these inflammatory sound bites (think of the ridiculous Cary Williams quotes this summer that were played over and over in their station promos) but what real relevance does this stuff have? Ridiculous stuff, not worthy of Birds24/7 even if we are on a bye week.

  • nicksaenz1

    The McNabb stuff is totally believable. The rest I don’t care about. They aren’t choir boys and any girl who marries an athlete should have some clue as to what goes on, regardless of whether they claim to be a God-fearing man. If this was a real issue, it should have been brought up way before the J Martin bs came out. Andrews is a huge waste of talent – a player Belichik once called the best and smartest lineman in the game (or something to that effect).

    • Coatesvillain

      Waste of talent is a bit strong. Prior to the back injury he was an All-Pro guard. After that injury he was never the same.

      • nicksaenz1

        And then all the mental stuff, brought his brother in to comfort him, blah blah, then coasted out of the league.

  • bsn

    Funny how he says his happiest time in the league was with the Giants. You know, the team that took a guy who wasn’t a rookie and threw him into a tub and then laughed and joked about how much of a sissy he was. Oh, and filmed the whole thing and posted it online. Smh.

  • jill

    He talks about McNabb wanting to be center of attention or needing spotlight…Isnt that EXACTLY what he is doing by saying all this. Im an advocate for anti bullying but I feel Andrews is fishing bigtime here… He under performed and got called out for it. He had mental health issues (which I feel sorry for him with that) and they even signed his brother in.attempts to help him.
    His comments seem so irrellevant.. Easy to trash.McNabb now isnt it???
    The comments about a bible toting player and their “non chriatian like behaviors” is inflammatory towards alot of players because he will not name anyone andnallows an ugly cloud of suspicion above several players.. He is crying about ppl spreadin rumors and yet does the same thing in this interview.
    Pathetic attempt at attention if you ask me.
    The only thing he will be remember for as good was his killer mohawk!

  • theycallmerob

    tebow.

  • ochospantalones

    This does sounds less like “bullying” and more like both Andrews and McNabb are insecure people who get sad when people don’t pay attention to them. And since McNabb was the star QB, he usually won the battle for attention. No one comes off looking good here, but this is hardly “I’ll sh*t in your mouth, I’ll kill you” territory.

    • KobraKai7474

      It sounds like Shawn Andrews just hated Donovan McNabb. It happens. Everyone of us has, at some point in our lives, been forced to work with somebody who gets on our last nerve.. sometimes we can’t even put a finger on WHAT we don’t like about that person… we just know that they annoy the crap out of us. You either learn to deal with it or you move on. Life is way to short to carry a grudge about nothing.

  • Ryan

    It sounds like he has mental issues and took everything that was said and done to heart. You also have to remember that this was before it was acceptable to be mentally injured such as with concussions.

  • EaglePete

    Per the bible toters, cmon, if you buy into that stuff to begin with then thats on you. I dont mean being religious but in terms of separating a pro athlete with off the field stuff and their religion. How many bad examples does one need about preaching vs actions and not just in the sports world.

  • daggolden

    Dawkins don’t walk on water.lol. There has been many of self righteous, good guys, great family men who have gotten caught up with a big butt and a smile!

    • daggolden

      Dawkins is on the road and is out and some “Sofia Vergara” chick comes up to him talking about whats up papi Dawk ain thinking about his wife. lol

  • KobraKai7474

    Wah, wah, wah. Donavan McNabb never thanked me. Wah, wah, wah. Grow up, Shawn.

  • KobraKai7474

    With all due respect, whatever was or wasn’t happening in the dark corners of some club is, by definition, NOT something that was happening in the locker room. If Shawn Andrews didn’t like what he saw his teammates doing during their off-hours, he should have spent less time with his teammates during off-hours.

  • Damien

  • Scott J

    I wonder who the bible thumping hypocrite was? Could be Dawk, but most likely someone on offense.

  • bula

    I believe the McNabb-attention whore comments. Others have said the same thing, namely TO. Not that TO is all that trustworthy either, but where there is smoke, there is likely fire