Shurmur: ‘Not Saying There Is A Conspiracy’

 Eagles offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur takes question from mediaPat Shurmur fielded question after question about the Eagles’ replay process Tuesday, specifically as it applies to the missed challenge opportunity in Green Bay. Something just doesn’t add up.

Shurmur explained that there are quite a few coaches in the booth that have their eyes on the monitor. If there is a play that warrants a challenge, a coach will relay the info to Shurmur, who will pass it on to Chip Kelly. On the Jarrett Boykin catch, no one in the booth saw an angle that convinced them to speak up.

“Had we had the benefit of the broadcast where they were able to cut it up, certainly we would have challenged, but we don’t get that. We do get some replays at times but there are times when they’re not that timely,” said Shurmur.


"We get a feed of some sort and I can't always tell you what it is because I don't know what it is. There are times we get replays, there are times when we don't. The big board that you see is controlled by the home team, so when there is something that is significant for the home team, a lot of times you see a lot of replays. If it is significant for the visiting team, a lot of times you don't see much."

The Eagles should have been receiving the network television feed. It is in the rules.

The network television feed used in the coaches’ booths will be supplied directly from the network television truck, minimizing the delay between live play and the broadcast. This feed is identical to the feed used in the Instant Replay Booth. Prior to each game, the Instant Replay Technician, a League employee, will be responsible for confirming that both coaches’ booths have the correct video feed.

Shurmur later said, "We were getting TV feeds. In this case here we didn't get it in a timely way where we could have done anything about it."

Assuming they were getting the right feed, and with minimal delay, the booth should have had plenty of time to see what the rest of America did-- that Boykin's hand was out of bounds before his second foot came down.

"I appreciate the update on the rules -- I know the rules," Shurmur jabbed. "But all I can tell you in this instance is we didn't get it in a timely fashion. I'm not saying there is any conspiracy here, it just didn't happen."

Shurmur earlier alluded to the in-house replay feed that is shown throughout the stadium. According to an Eagles spokesman, the televisions can be set to that feed. A league spokesman disagreed.

Regardless of what was being seen: should the Eagles designate someone who is solely responsible for watching the replay feed?

"If we had done it, that guy watching the TV wouldn't have been able to do anything about it because it wasn't timely," said Shurmur.

Added Billy Davis: "I don't think there is a flaw in it right now. We have a lot of eyes in the box looking at it and whoever wants to stand up and say, 'Hey, definitely throw the flag,' we throw it... I don't think the system is flawed."

The Eagles do not plan on filing a complaint to the league, according to Shurmur.

Injury update

Mychal Kendricks (knee), Earl Wolff (knee) and Jason Peters (quad) all sat out Tuesday's practice.

Davis said that Wolff's injury is "week-to-week, not day-to-day." Wolff told reporters after Tuesday's practice that there is no structural damage in the knee and that he hyperextended it. Patrick Chung, who will start in Wolff's absence,  says that his shoulder is significantly better and does not anticipate it being a problem moving forward.

 

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  • DEBO 215

    Agreed. I don’t know where the disconnection is but there’s really no excuse for not challenging that play. The int really bailed them out on that drive, but if GB scores, it’s a different game.
    There’s no excuse for that if you have the correct resources. If his answer to not challenging the play was, “We didn’t see it…” Then my question is why the hell not? Especially considering they should be receiving the broadcast and then some.
    This is something that could really cost them in a close game that they need to tighten up in a hurry. I’d be willing to offer my services to sit in a box and watch the game and inform Chip when to throw the damn flag. I’ll even give a discount and do it for the veteran league minimum.

  • Jason

    I’m surprised that the other play of significance is being ignored. Why hasn’t anyone asked about the “fumble”? It obviously wasn’t a fumble and it gave GB 4 extra yards. At worst, they win the challenge and move them back. But at best, they move them back and it ends up being short of the first down and creates a 4th down.

    • DEBO 215

      Agreed. Another play that should’ve been looked at. It’s like we just had no replay on the day.

    • Andy124

      It’s not being totally ignored. It isn’t being looked at nearly as much because it wasn’t for nearly the same yardage and it wasn’t as obvious.

      • Jason

        Really, I haven’t read every comment posted. But I haven’t seen anything from the “media” about this play.
        I agree about the yardage, but I disagree about it being obvious. In real time I don’t think the catch was obvious at all. But it was pretty clear that wasn’t a fumble.

        • Andy124

          Yeah, mainly referring to comments rather than articles.

          For obviousness, sure it wasn’t obvious live, but the broadcast had a real nice freeze frame of his hand out of bounds with a foot off the ground. The fumble, maybe I had a poorly timed piss or something, but I don’t remember it being obvious exactly where the spot should have been. If it’s within a half yard it’s too close to challenge until crunch time imo.

          • Jason

            Absolutely agree on the timing. I guess my point is that in combination with not challenging the catch earlier, this play should be mentioned as well. It goes more to the pattern then the play itself.
            Plus, you were guaranteed of winning the challenge and had the chance to force a 4th down.

  • ohitsdom

    Something is definitely wrong. I hope this is a case where they are downplaying it to the media but aggressively investigating/pursuing it internally and with the league. Game outcomes change on a blown call, this is not something to be cavalier about or chalk it up to something “we can’t control”.

    • Andy124

      What if they’re playing it soft because they’re doing the same thing?

      • Eagles4Life

        That’s my assumption.

        • jshort

          Joe Banner must be behind it!!!

  • DEBO 215

    Rookie coach hazing? You get no challenges in historic Lambeau?
    I’ve got nothing reasonable here…

  • Richard Colton

    I didn’t read the article, but I can only assume the Conspiracy in question has something to do with Chip refusing to play our finally healthy Team Leader Mike Vick over Captain Checkdown, Nick “Floater” Foles.

    • DEBO 215

      Negative. Vick isn’t healthy and this article was about not challenging plays that should’ve been challenged.

      • bentheimmigrant

        Don’t know where you read that. Clearly this article was about the conspiracy against the rightful QB of this team.

      • Andy124

        upvote to cancel out the ‘downvote for an honest mistake’.

        • theycallmerob

          see? the wit….a problem for many.

        • Richard Colton

          agreed

          • DEBO 215

            Meh…went right over my head, I thought it was just someone trolling…

    • Bukester

      Best post EVER!

  • erdessy

    The Eagles should have been receiving the network television feed. It is in the rules.

    The network television feed used in the coaches’ booths will be supplied directly from the network television truck, minimizing the delay between live play and the broadcast. This feed is identical to the feed used in the Instant Replay Booth. Prior to each game, the Instant Replay Technician, a League employee, will be responsible for confirming that both coaches’ booths have the correct video feed.”

    I don’t read this as saying the Eagles definitely should have been receiving the network television feed we get at home. I read that the coaches will get a feed directly from the network truck (to minimize delay) and such feed will be identical to the one used in the replay booth. Maybe because it says “minimizing the delay between live play and the broadcast” we are to assume that it is exactly the same as the broadcast feed? Maybe, but it does not clearly state this.
    Also, if the feed is identical to the one in the replay booth, that’s kind of circular logic as a play isn’t reviewed unless a challenge flag is thrown so if no flag is thrown no replays will go to the replay booth. But once a flag is thrown, you usually see a lot more angles, but at that point it is too late as it is in the hands of the officials.

  • Adam

    Can’t believe this story is getting this much traction considering it had zero impact on the game. Can we just let this die?

    • damrvrhunter

      you honestly don’t see the problem?

      • Lewitus

        Agree with damrvhunter, this could be catastrophic if it is a matter of coaching incompetency, this is a huge story that deserves national sports media attention, especially if there is a home advantage. If the coaches blew it, they should own up to it and correct the problem moving forward.

    • GEAGLE

      I’m with you Adam…to me this is a joke, that this is what philly reporters are spending to their time on after a big win…any reporter stop and think that Chip just doesn’t want to throw his assistants under the bus? “No-replay-challenge-gate?”…it’s Tuesday night and we are still talking about a mistake during a win…I don’t understand…seems like a story suited for Les Bowen, not 24/7

  • breakdown6

    Someone screwed up. Just own up to it.

  • EaglePete

    “I dont think there is a flaw in it..” umm ya there is when the entire viewing audience sees an obvious challenge and you dont. But yes, Eagles won, it doesnt matter…..until it does or for the next team at Lambeau ha

  • Mr. Magee

    Eagles either file a complaint, or own up to having screwed up. Simple as that. And if they don’t file a complaint, we’re all left to conclude it’s the latter.

    This is where organizations lose credibility with the fans. I was hoping we’d be done with this when the Andy regime left town.

  • morgan c

    It looks like they just “goofed,” and don’t want to admit it. Things are looking okay right now, but as long as Schurmur is around, I’ll never feel quite comfortable. That hire was a head-scratcher from the beginning, and certainly remains that way.

  • jon h

    sounding more and more like Shumer was in the bathroom or something while the play was happening.