Observations: Eagles 27, Packers 13

foles_400_102913GREEN BAY, Wisc. – Here’s what we saw during the first half of today’s Eagles-Packers game.

OFFENSE

* It was a strange day for the Eagles’ offense. They got a little luck on their way to their first touchdown. Nick Foles eyed DeSean Jackson deep, but underthrew him. Two Packers defensive backs collided, and the ball popped into the air before Jackson came down with it for a 55-yard touchdown.


* Then in the third, Foles threw one up for grabs, and Riley Cooper did a great job of finding the ball for a 45-yard touchdown. It looked like the ball moved a little when Cooper hit the ground, but the score stood.

* Later in the third, Cooper got wide-open with a double move and scored from 32 yards out. Overall, Cooper had three catches for 102 yards. In the last five games, he has 462 yards and five touchdowns.

* Foles' numbers looked good: 12-for-18 for 228 yards and three touchdowns. But as described above, he got a lot of help. In the first half especially, he looked a little hesitant.

* LeSean McCoy had a monster game. He piled up 155 yards on 25 carries (6.2 YPC). In the second half, McCoy carried 16 times for 141 yards. Jackson had four catches for 80 yards and a touchdown.

* Foles was sacked in the fourth quarter and fumbled, giving the Packers possession in the red zone, but the defense held them scoreless.

* Jason Peters suffered a pair of injuries in the first quarter. He left the game with an apparent head injury, returned for one play and then suffered a quad injury that sidelined him for the afternoon. Allen Barbre replaced him.

* The Eagles squandered an opportunity in the second. After a takeaway by the defense, they went three-and-out before Alex Henery missed a 39-yard field goal. Henery has already missed five field goals on the season.

* Did you notice the officials miss a blatant face-mask on a McCoy run in the second?

* Herremans gave up pressure in the second. Foles tried to launch it deep, but Jackson lost the ball in the sun.

* With the Eagles trying to kill the clock, James Casey picked up 8 on a 3rd-and-7 late in the fourth.

* Foles had seven rushes for 39 yards on the day.

DEFENSE

* The Eagles' defense got another break as Seneca Wallace suffered a groin injury on the first possession and was replaced by Scott Tolzien. But the Birds lost a couple starters themselves. Mychal Kendricks and Earl Wolff both suffered knee injuries that knocked them out of the game.

* Huge play in the fourth quarter. Tolzien targeted Jordy Nelson in the corner of the end zone on fourth down. The refs ruled incomplete, but Mike McCarthy challenged the call. Nelson pinned the ball against his body, but it hit the ground. The ruling on the field stood, and the Eagles got the ball back with a 27-13 lead.

* The Eagles' run defense was excellent. It helped that the Packers were one-dimensional, but Billy Davis' unit swarmed to the ball against a very good rushing offense. Eddie Lacy needed 24 carries for 73 yards (3.0 YPC). As a team, the Packers had 99 yards on 30 carries (3.3 YPC).

* Tolzien finished 24-for-39 for 280 yards, a touchdown and two interceptions.

* On the final drive of the first half, Nelson made a great play in between Brandon Boykin and Colt Anderson for 30 yards. That set up a Packers field goal. Mason Crosby missed a pair in the first half, but hit that one.

* In the third, Cary Williams deflected a pass and DeMeco Ryans made a terrific interception. Ryan had 13 tackles (11 solo, two for loss), a pass defensed and a pick. Monster game for the Eagles' middle linebacker.

* The Eagles blew a coverage in the third as tight end Brandon Bostick got wide open for a 22-yard touchdown. Tough to tell whether Patrick Chung or Roc Carmichael was at fault.

* With the Packers threatening to score in the second, Boykin intercepted a Tolzien pass and returned it 76 yards.

* Najee Goode replaced Kendricks. He had two chances for interceptions, but couldn't come up with either play. He was also called for roughing the passer in the second half.

* Vinny Curry had his fourth sack of the season in the second half. Curry came into the game having only played 19 percent of the Eagles' defensive snaps, yet he leads the team in sacks.

* In a bit of a surprise move, the Eagles started Carmichael at cornerback instead of Boykin. Bradley Fletcher was inactive with a pectoral injury.

* The Eagles used their dime defense for the first time all season. Colt Anderson joined Nate Allen and Patrick Chung at safety. Ryans was the lone linebacker on the field.

* Williams gave up a 36-yard completion to Jarrett Boykin. Replays showed Boykin was out of bounds, but the Eagles failed to throw the challenge flag.

* With the win, the Eagles improve to 5-5 on the season.

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  • ftotheyu

    Man, that failed challenge on the 36-yard Boykin completion could’ve been disaster. Good job by our defense… but where was Shurmur and Chip on that challenge? That seemed to be an easy call just looking at TV replays and I’m sure Shurmur had even better viewed upstairs.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Ya the one with the elbow down on the white… really sucked to see that. clearly no catch

    • nicksaenz1

      I was flipping out during that. Couldn’t believe it wasn’t challenged.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Yup lol that play and the blatant mccoy facemask (and even the slight hold on avant in endzone no call) had me yellin at the tv, having said that there were those two no calls on eagles db for PI.. but the two no calls on mccoy and avant were much more significant.

        but who really cares haha got the win Foles looked great offense looked good, hopefully kendricks isn’t done, really sucked to see him go down

        • anon

          Missed 2 facemasks and the PI on the same drive. Now i understand why the Packers play so well at home.

          • Joe from Easton

            I usually stay away from the conspiracy theories, but yesterday I was feeling the same way. Bad missed face mask calls cost the birds two first downs and it was clearly holding on Avant near the end zone. It was a piss poor game from the officials.

    • JofreyRice

      Chip’s going to have to tighten that kind of stuff up. That loses close games.

    • theycallmerob

      Not as if Shurmur was exactly a skilled challenger as a head coach. Too often the protagonist of Barnwell’s “Thank You For Not Coaching” columns.

    • Token

      Shurmer is gun shy now. He challenged a number of stupid plays. Now he was scared to challenge the most obvious challenge they have had this year.

  • Will

    Eagles with Foles at QB another Big Win…

    .Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
    N. Foles 12/18 228 3 0

    16 -TD’s Zero INT’s………for the season….

    McCoy 25 carries for a 155 yds.

    Defense comes up Big again…

    • GEAGLE

      Don’t forget the 40 yard rushing that softened up a top 5 run defense for Shady to DO WORK all day…The “analysts” really had the audacity to say that Chip couldn’t make a run game work with a top back if he didn’t have a fast mobile QB…NFL “analysts” steal more money than Andrew Bynum!!!

      • HowboutdemIggles

        Who said that? I’m going to tweet at them right now!

        • GEAGLE

          EVERYONE…you already have forgotten that Chip NEEDS to have a mobile QB to make his offense work?

          • anon

            If the run game works it’s “Chip doesn’t need a mobile QB” if the run game doesn’t work “Chip needs a mobile QB”. If Foles has a bad game — need a running QB to make the scheme work. If we have a good game — Foles is really a facilitator — i’ve always said CK doesn’t need a running QB to make the offense work.

          • Richard Colton

            hahaha. Ohh, and the “Chip Kelly Read Option” won’t work in the NFL

  • cliff henny

    5-5 verge nfceast crown, franchise qb in making whil defense shuts another team down…just warming everyone up for GEAGLE

    • nicksaenz1

      Even the great ones have some luck. It wasn’t a pretty day, but it’s a day that brought a W… And while people may act like we lucked out with Wallace going down, I don’t necessarily buy that. That kid looked like solid considering he likely gets little to no practice work.

      • RIP illa

        I think Tolizen coming in was a huge help to GB. Think Wallace would have never played that well. Tolizen or whatever his name is, is way to green to be scared. The only way we lucked out was w/ our O on some plays.

        • nicksaenz1

          That was what I was referring to with the luck.

    • GEAGLE

      WAR CLIFF!!!! :)

      • cliff henny

        lol…my man! 13 pnts…dont care if it was tolzien or solzhenitsyn playing qb, win is a win!

        • GEAGLE

          I don’t even see names on the other side of the field unless they are kicking our asses…I couldn’t even tell you who was out there today after we took Lacy out the game lol

        • Richard Colton

          great reference. Green Bay Archipeligo

  • Han

    Swag-daddy Foles doin work

  • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

    Now 3 home games. Feel good about Redskins. The others…well, one game at a time.

    • nicksaenz1

      I definitely don’t feel good about the Redskins game. RG3 starting to look like he’s moved on from the knee injury and their run game has been great. Looking like an offense that’s clicking. And….it’s at home.

      • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

        All of that’s true, but their defense is PUTRID. If ours can just play “ok” we should win.

        • GEAGLE

          We aren’t losing this game…it’s TIME to turn the corner boys!!! I can smell it

        • TheCatalyst

          Their D might be putrid but Hall has been making a LOT of plays for them. True he can’t cover everyone at once but if he makes a few plays, we’re in for a long game.

  • damrvrhunter

    AR in 14 seasons never had a team execute a finer drive than that last one. Eagles final drive (9:32): Run, run, run, run, screen, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, kneel, kneel, kneel, ballgame. FLAWLESS!

    • DirtyWaters

      It was awesome. Love that shady had a phenomenal second half. Defense bailed out Foles. Text book 9:00 drive. Just sick.

      • Brandon

        The defense is a mirage. A practice squad QB rolled up 400 yds on us. No way this game should have been as close as it was.

        • EricT

          Mirage or not, in the end it’s about wins and losses. This D is keeping teams to point levels that give the O a chance to outscore the opponent. That’s all that matters. They are making progress.

        • Jason

          Weren’t people all over Glennon too? And he almost beat Seattle. That practice squad QB is pretty good. I’d take him over Barkley in a heart beat

          • JofreyRice

            Tolzein can at least whip it out there–even if he closes his eyes when he throws it, sometimes.

          • pjcostello

            I caught that, too!! That was kinda funny.

        • theycallmerob

          As we’ve shown time and again, it’s easy to rack up yards yet come up short in the points department. Eagles had no film on the kid, and were missing Fletch, Earl, and Kendricks (the captain, with the helmet mic) on that side. Not too much value in a 20 to 20 qb if they can’t put the ball in the end zone.

        • pjcostello

          280 yards. Not 400.

    • GEAGLE

      It really was a thing of beauty..and the most encouraging part was it’s not the first time we executed like that during the brief Kelly era..Think back to the unbalanced Lines closing out Folesy’s Tampa win

      • RIP illa

        I’m not understanding. I thought Foles in Tampa was far more superior to the Foles we saw today.

        • GEAGLE

          We are talking about the way the closed off both wins with a time consuming, pound the ball run attack in the last drive of both games

          • RIP illa

            Ok. Got it

      • pjcostello

        But if they managed to execute that game-closing drive against San Diego, we’d be 6-4 right now and smoking cigars. :-)

    • Jason

      You must either be a new Eagles fan or have a bad memory. There were numerous times the Eagles did that under Reid with Staley and Westbrook. That being said, I will agree with you that drive was a thing of beauty and very refreshing after the last two years.

      • Midgreen

        Nah, Hunter is right and possibly you are the new Eagles fan. With a
        big lead, AR was more like…run, run, McNabb dirt ball, punt..Defense
        closes it out.

        • Jason

          Ha, unfortunately there were a few of those.

  • Andy124

    So, we knew Foles wasn’t Oakland good and wasn’t Dallas bad. So here’s your in-between performance. Not as good as the numbers, but he got the job done. I’ll take it all day and twice on Sunday.

    • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

      It doesn’t make me feel warm and fuzzy going forward. Though I will take the win all day.

      • Max Lightfoot

        You’re unbelievable – consistent – but unbelievable. I suppose a healthy Michael Vick would have done better. Talk about a left-handed compliment …

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          “Foles’ numbers looked good: 12-for-18 for 228 yards and three touchdowns. But as described above, he got a lot of help. In the first half especially, he looked a little hesitant.”

          But I’m unbelievable.

          • JofreyRice

            So if Foles ends up being the guy, is this just going to be your schtick every week, or will you eventually go away?

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Yeah u do realize the quoted part is what Shiel said right? Those aren’t my words…I just agreed.

          • JofreyRice

            Yes. Are you going to answer the question? Do you have any intention of sticking around if Foles ends up being the guy? If so, will this be your thing, every week?

          • Charlie Custer

            Jury’s still out on Foles. Asking someone to go away because he’s not buying yet is garbage. Foles was not sharp in this game. Right now, he’s getting dealt aces. His numbers are great, but Chip wants a dual-threat guy to run things.

          • HowboutdemIggles

            No he doesn’t he doesn’t need a dual threat guy, how many times have you heard that, yet you still perpetuate the lie, and misinformation. Seriously, it’s getting to be ridiculous, when Foles is playing well, you wanna take that away and just say what has been dismissed all along.

          • HowboutdemIggles

            12-18 with a 12.3 ypc. Seriously it’s time to quit with the Foles hating, again you’re taking it to be that if he doesn’t complete over 25 passes he’s terrible. Three touchdowns, one which was a late read and underthrown a tad, another was thrown so the receiver can go and get it. And one more on a wide open throw. You know what 27-13 means? It means it’s a win, and a win in a mediocre stat type game. Foles hasn’t made thrown a pick all season even with that terrible 11/29 game.

          • JBrooks

            Thank you… I’ve been saying this all along as well. I don’t understand why ppl cant just accept the win. If Vick would have had those number ppl would be ecstatic and saying how efficient he is. I like Vick, always have, but he takes to long to throw the ball, is very turn-over prone, and can’t read an NFL Defense. Foles is slow yet he still takes less sacks than Vick does and can still get the occasional needed yardage with his legs. I think he has great potential, is he a Tom Brady, 13 year starter, maybe not but Ill take Foles over any QB on our current roster and over the majority of the QB’s in the NFL today…. Either way the team is playing well with him running the offense, we are tied for 1st in the NFC East, and already have one more win than last season. All of this is with a very “new” team… just be glad we are winning….

          • HowboutdemIggles

            I think the Foles vs Vick talk is done, it’s now a question of whether or not he’s a franchise quarterback. Alex Smith got seven years to prove who he is, you can’t make the judgments after 11 games, I think he does have potential to be a solid starter in this league, and I would love for it to be with the Eagles.

      • Richard Colton

        Shady had 150 yards on the ground on the road. Today would be a great time to back away from your “Eagles can’t run the ball with Foles” argument, isn’t it?

        • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

          Hmm…

          46 (shared) – 116 – 55 – 48 – 44 – 155

          Those are Shady’s yards for every game he’s played with Foles – this game the bulk of Shady’s came on that last drive – by then GB was clearly done – they however bottled him up pretty well in those first 3 quarters.

          • Andy124

            Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but i believe Shady was at 105 yards on 17 carries for 6.2ypc before the final drive. Pretty well bottled up indeed.

            Might want to reconsider taking Rich’s advice.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            I said the 4th quarter…I do beleive that was my point….I think the first three quarters (or late in the 3rd I think it was) – Shady hadn’t put up such hot numbers…but once again it was never a Vick vs. Foles argument to begin with.

          • Andy124

            You do realize we can all still read your post right?

            this game the bulk of Shady’s came on that last drive – by then GB was clearly done

            But whatever, I’ll give you the third quarter… Shady through 3 quarters – 17 carries for 105 yards and 6.2ypc. i.e. the same. Not exactly bottled up.

          • Richard Colton

            not fair, you’re being objective.

          • Andy124

            I do that sometimes.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Point being you can’t point to one game and say…seee look at this..and once again the convo wasn’t about Foles or Vick per say as it was about a Mobile and non-mobile QB in this scheme.

          • Richard Colton

            ahhh. keep telling yourself that. The running game has looked great 2 weeks in a row under Foles. Eroding one of your last pro-Vick arguments, I think.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            ahhh…44 yards on 12 attemps 3.7 yards a carry..that’s good two weeks in a row?

          • Richard Colton

            You know Bryce Brown played in that game too, right?

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            You know our run game was near unstoppable with a QB and RB with no Bryce Brown producing right?

          • Richard Colton

            mental gymnastics. So the argument has now morphed from “Run game not effective with Foles” to “doesn’t matter…running game MORE effective with Vick.”

            Your idol might not get another snap this year, how does that make you feel? Silver lining – plenty of sideline closeups with him looking dreamy in the starter jacket/beanie.

          • HowboutdemIggles

            Like a wise man from Philadelphia said; Ooh, Kill ‘em.

          • Richard Colton

            !

          • Maggie

            Don’t worry about Richard Colton. If a woman says the sky is blue, Colton will insist that she is wrong, and stupid as well.

          • Richard Colton

            you’re a woman?

            Now your love for Tony Romo makes sense. In this town, we generally put team ahead of silly crushes, but I’m willing to make an exception for you if the rules are different in Vancouver. You know, in the interest of international cooperation.

          • Mike Calabrese

            Maggie I noticed you have a complex about being a woman and posters targeting you for being a woman in your mind. This is the comment section and almost all comments get a response both in support and against. If you come to a site like this and people disagree with you trust me in most cases it is same treatment we all get and give to each other.

            Maggie many many commentators disagree with BBAS perspective bc she is very bias toward Vick. She has a right to her opinion but unless you want to accuse 3/4 of posters on this site of singling her out bc she is a female your not seeing whole picture with her. Many people see based on her posts, that she seems to be less an Eagles fan than she is a Vick fan. She can try and say were all reading into it incorrectly. However it’s a simple thing in life that if one person is constantly disagreeing with several people over same issue over and over; its doubtful that the majority of people all wrong and the lone person is correct. In this case we all get accused of reading into her comments wrong and she claims she is acting objective. Sorry but it’s not everyone else is wrong and she is right. The same opinions keep coming from several different posters so I think maybe that’s not just a coincidence or us all picking on her bc she is a woman.

          • Richard Colton

            points for your willingness to stick to a position, even though Chip Kelly and I disagree

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            Good way to continue missing the point..when

            A. u brought up the whole Shady Vick thing
            B. I pointed out that it was about the scheme and a mobile vs. non-mobile QB not Vick vs. Foles in that way.

          • Richard Colton

            just keeping people honest. reminding you of your argument after Vick came back from 2013 injury #1. That the ground game works better with Vick than Foles.

            Anyway. Now would be a good time, after two full games, to admit you were wrong. Don’t need a “mobile” QB for this ground game to be effective.

          • http://abigbuttandasmile.com/ A Big Butt and a Smile

            No you’re not keeping people honest – you’re being an ass and obtuse. If you can’t see how a mobile QB opens the running game better overall…Or completing ignoring the games where the run wasn’t working to prove your point that’s not there..well there’s nothing to say.

          • Richard Colton

            no need to name-call just because you’ve been exposed as a Vick-sycophant. I’m just willing to give Chip the benefit of the doubt when he says there are other ways to execute all of his offense without a “mobile” QB. Now that I’ve seen it done two weeks in a row, I’m mostly convinced.

            I’m sorry that it doesn’t fit your agenda. Tell you what, the weather in Atlanta is still nice. Take a walk, then you’ll be less apt to call Philly fans stupid.

          • pjcostello

            When you sink to name-calling, you’ve lost.

    • cliff henny

      10 starts, keep telling myself that. give kelly off season to get correct weapons, easily upgrade at celek, 2nd and 3rd wr, move cooper to 4th, line gets another season…could be a nice offense

      • RIP illa

        You’re not getting Evan…lol!!! Yeah hopefully we can put some real good pieces around Foles, cause I’m thinking that’s gonna be the key to his success more so than just having Shady and DJax (Coop gets honorable mention). I’m still hoping he can be the guy that can “put the team on his back” on occasions.

        • cliff henny

          dude, moncreif out of miss…either lsu wr beckem jr or landry…laundry inslot would badass. mike evans will be wearing eagles green…dont think i didnt watch him a jm go nuts again yesterday.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah man…we are going to need OUR Anquan BOldin or Jimmy Graham and the watch Folesy sky rocket

          • anon

            yeah could you imagine if we had real possession receiver?

          • GEAGLE

            Get that weapon, a star safety and Star 12 plus sack OLB, and we will be ready to compete with anyone

          • Token

            Who needs Evans? We got Cooper.

            But really, they do need another guy. But I wouldnt spend a 1st on WR.

            Nobody agrees, but I think Maclin could do damage in the slot. I know he was dangerous inside in college. Maybe he got softer, I dunno, but id be interested to see it.

            Hard to rely on him being healthy tho.

            But Jackson, Maclin, Cooper and a high end WR would be very interesting.

          • cliff henny

            you are high if you think maclin will even consider playing slot. he may have the skillset, but he wont.
            .
            not 1…2! i want 1st and 3rd. plus 5th on te to replace celek. if going with foles, get him weapons. olb in 2nd…cole needs replaced

          • GEAGLE

            Cliff, I would never be willing to pass on Barr, but I’m ready to give up Mack,Van Noy…for a Evans rd1/Hubbard rd2 draft

          • cliff henny

            hubbard sucked last night. they ran over and around him. and if he’s 250lbs, than manziel s 6’2 215!

          • GEAGLE

            Really? I’m out of these loop…how did the Stanford kid play Thursday?

          • cliff henny

            skov is maybe a step slow, but i love that nutjob. that other guy you mentioned, forget his name looked nice, but not barr van noy nice.

          • RIP illa

            What do you see in Hubbard, besides height and length?

          • GEAGLE

            I don’t love him either believe me…basically I use his name as a proxy for the top OLB most likely being on the board when we pick in round 2….I doubt Barr,Mack,Van Noy, Beasly, Shayzler make it out of rd 1, and they definitely ain’t falling to like the 14th pick in round two…so do you have a better name than Hubbard at that point? I think the Stanford kid goes at the beginning of round two..who am I missing, other than small school prospects like The conneticut kid

          • cliff henny

            6 lbs in top 35? cant see that. someone will tumble.

          • RIP illa

            Nope not yet. But I haven’t started researching and studying extensively. I think Hubbards a “good” cut off for prospects at this time though. However I’m sure we’ll have a couple two or three Jamie Collins types come draft time. The issue of Hubbard being the cut off is concerning though, he’s so meh!!! I don’t think we should reach but if we hab a sure shoot a top OLB pass rusher or DE that can make the adjustment…then I think we gotta take it. And if you’re going for top of the class, like rank 1-3 and depending on how good they are, then I don’t consider that a reach. But if we’re to pick a guy like Hubbard (early), for example, cause there’s been a run on pass rushers…then I would consider that a reach. I do not think Hubbard will be any where close to BPA on their board when the 2nd rd comes. So either get a top OLB in the 1st or get a severely limited (prospect wise) developmental guy in later rounds.

          • GEAGLE

            Can’t disagree at all..

            Cliff, I’m fine taking a 4th round MLB, but Meco will probably play another two years..That man was recovering from an Achilles which takes more time then we would like, but that now we are really starting to see him at full strength and we probably didn’t realize it because he still played so well last year, but this is another level..The arrow isn’t just playing at a consistenty high level, it’s still pointing up with him…I. Also think Chip adores him and thinks the world of him
            ….
            . I think we Def get another two years from him if no horrible injury occurs…I’m ok with taking a 4th rd OLB, but I. Wouldn’t want to draft a second rounder for ATleast another two years

          • Token

            At some point you have to get talent on defense.

          • cliff henny

            5 straight under 20 (help me here geag’s if thats wrong) and we dont have talent now. and sais 2nd on olb, and need ryans replacement drafted soon, cb in 4th. plenty of picks, can go both ways

          • anon

            We have a lot of talent on D. We do needs another corner / safety and an OLB. We have no pass rush at all. I’m happy with Barwin and Meco (meco getting me big points in fantasy).

          • cliff henny

            yeah, he has some left in tank, but like to get his replacement time to learn from him. 4th rd mlb. i’m just tossing rds out. kelly wants to win 52-35…let’s do this! if going with foles, let’s get that shaggy bastard some crazy weapons. if cooper can be 3-5/100+/2+tds, imagine mike evans?

          • GEAGLE

            This defense isn’t far away AT ALL..just two serious investments: Star Safety. Nate hits the open market, so if you have to bid on him, might as well bid on BYRD man!! And 12 plus sack OLB to play opposite of Barwin…but the have to be playmakers….it will be a significant investment about allow us to use draft pics to get FOles weapons…our exsisting players who are playing well, but they are no where close to being maxed out,,they have plenty more potential to grow in as the young kids improve their technique, gain experience and grow their bodies

          • theycallmerob

            agree.
            either or you know of any other S, besides Byrd, who may be worth throwing some $ at? I get the hype about him, but a younger kid might be worth a look.
            OLB and WR early, but I always believe good WR/RBs can be found in late rounds or as UDFAs. Also greatest chance of a bust; I’d be wary of two high draft picks on one position. Rather that went to CB, some LB depth, maybe another talented DL, or heck even an OL. BPA, all the way.

          • hillbillybirdsfan

            Byrd is only 27, but if by younger you mean someone in college check into Deone Bucannon. I think you will like what you see.

          • HowboutdemIggles

            Ha Ha Clinton Dix could be a steal, he’s on a suspension right now, but he’s solid. You can look at Loston at LSU he may not be a number one pick, but a solid second round choice. Really anybody’s an upgrade over Allen and Coleman. Maybe go Nose tackle the first round with Louis Nix III

          • RIP illa

            Great response. We don’t call the guy self-tacklin for nothing. And he has inconsistent hands also, still good, but inconsistent.

          • Richard Colton

            self tacklin got Bryce Brown again today

          • anon

            Yeah gotta assume Maclin will be slow first half of the season — at least he got injured in TC i guess. It’s good not to have anything too glaring — i’m fine with BPA.

          • RIP illa

            Ugh….stop leaving out Coleman

          • cliff henny

            cant watch rutgers. not cant, dont want too, so i’ll take your word

          • GEAGLE

            I’m already stuck having to watch Buffalo game for Mack. I will leave Rutgers to someone else..who’s gonna be our Coleman reporter? Step up RIP

          • cliff henny

            i got texas a&m and anyone they play covered, dont worry

          • GEAGLE

            Lol…you certainly know how to take one for the team…watching Texas AM, while I’m stuck watching BYU buffalo…

          • Richard Colton

            Rutgers alumnus here, and I don’t like Coleman. I think he’s got late first round bust written all over him.

  • #7

    Nice win by the Eagles. Had to take over cooking duties in the 4th.

    Nice job by the D

  • HowboutdemIggles

    Can the “he didn’t beat anybody” talk end now? This was however a team effort, and they’re playing football the way I remember them playing 4 years ago. The NFC Least is open and it’s awesome to see them in a spot they didn’t even sniff the past 2 years. Fly Eagles Fly. Bleed Green til I die.

    • RIP illa

      Sorry had to down vote you for the way you started that out and the NFC least comment. The rest I agree w/. A Rodgers-less Packers, is not really the Packers at all.

  • GEAGLE

    I know the 7td blowouts are a lot of fun, but it’s just so darn important to see this young team learn to claw and scratch it’s way thru tough and ugly games, and this was a beautiful win because the entire roster had a hand in the battle..
    ….
    We saw FOles electric ceiling last week. 12/18 another 3 TDs,No INTs, continuing to make the Cooper haters look silly is a basement that I’d take all day long. 149 QB rating, and oh btw, he twinkle toed his way to 40 yards loosening up a top 5 run defense for Shady.. 4-1 ROAD WARRIOR under the kid…Time to step up, and take that next step into the evolution of our FUTURE gunner!!!

    Defense continues to bend, NEVER break, and they are starting to consistently get BIGTIME turnovers. Barwin bats a ball per game, and Curry continues to Feast on Fools..Meco and the front seven, would bend a little against baby BEASTMODE, but stood TALL until they could wear him down, and let FOles give us the lead taking Lacy out of the game.

    I will literally be on the sideline for the skins game…They can’t break my heart this week, I KNOW IT!!! It’s reward week for me….LETS GO GET THIS DIVISION, and TURN THE CORNER of the KELLY ERA!!! Hahah funny, I had the Greenbay game as a win for us at the beginning the season(but that’s just a crap shoot)..it’s just funny how things play out in the whacky NFL ROLLERCOASTER marathon!!

    Its FOLESY Time B****ES!!!!!

    • cliff henny

      glad i warmed people up…that’s some both barrells stuff right there

      • GEAGLE

        Lol

  • Jason

    Instant observations:
    Fail: Pat Shurmur. Twice had a chance to throw the challenge and didn’t. The obvious one was the 36 yarder. But why didn’t we challenge the 3rd down “fumble”. At worst we win the challenge and the ball gets moved back 4 yards. At best, it is short and then 4th down.
    Winning erases all mistakes, but that needs to be cleaned up.

    • anon

      Yeah Shurmer’s done a bad job all season with that.

  • Max Lightfoot

    I had a pound of coffee beans riding on this one – a bet made with my cheesehead son. So when I enjoy it, I shall toast one sip to Nick Foles, another to Shady, Riley Cooper, Desean, Chipper … I smell it brewing, baby! A GREAT day for the Eagle D. They held the best running game in the League to NO rushing touchdowns – wow. The commentary was so pro-Packers, but Aikman and Buck had to eat crow at the end. Wooohoooooo!

  • GEAGLE

    Really encouraging that FOles had this nice throwing day in a cold windy Wisconsin day. FOles is talking about the swirly wind at the podium right now. This was a great test. He had to overcome a lot of adversity, the fumble..I loved how we were struggling, but as soon as GB scored that TD, FOles came right back, took us down the field and quickly answered that TD, BURYING any chance of momentum…very encouraging sign to see in a young kid in his 11th game

  • anon

    The beset part is that the game was never really close. Cary Williams definitely “bends” but we didn’t break. Good run D — glad we came up with some picks, great to see us playing as a team — especially with so many starters out.

    E-A-G-L-E-S. EAGLES!!!!

    • BlindChow

      It sure felt closer during the game than it ended up.

      • anon

        B/c we’ve been conditioned over the years to see our team give up leads.

  • hillbillybirdsfan

    Nice D, nice running in the 2nd half. Good solid game by Foles with a couple of good bounces. I realize it was against their 3rd string QB, but you have to beat the guys that are on the field and the Eagles did just that.

  • GEAGLE

    ED RENDELL really just suggested that FOles could play so well that we can use him to trade all the way up in the draft and get us “Chips guy”….Being able to move all the way up to get a top QB means FOles played lights out…When will I get to stop hearing CRAP like THIS? Wish we could just fast forward to the draft so everyone can SHUT their SILLY mouths!

    • Token

      Rendell makes that postgame show unwatchable. I tune in for Chips PC but then turn it off. I cant take the guy. Ill never understand why they still have him on the show. Hes a goof.

      • GEAGLE

        He really does ruin and cheapen the entire show..unfortunately I have to endure it a little longer because I have to hear FOles and Shady speak

    • HowboutdemIggles

      Missanelli is probably still saying Foles isn’t a fit for the Eagles. And he can’t move at all in the pocket.

  • Token

    Ok. First off let me say Vick should be IRed Monday. Said it before, but it bares repeating. Just get that whole story line out of the way. And it would go a long way in making these comments readable again.

    Now the game… Foles certainly didnt look dialed in. Had some rough moments for sure. But at the end of the day the job got done. Young QBs are gonna have games that are just off, but you hope to never see anything like Dallas again. Theres just times were Foles seems so hesitant about what he is seeing. That has to improve. I want to see him be more decisive. Some deep balls struggled in the wind. Would help if he made his decision earlier and let it rip. Often it seems like hes not positive about a throw even as he is throwing.

    Im sure the storyline today from a certain few posters will be that GB’s defense is terrible.
    Well, their run D is top 5 and McCoy got back on track against it. Thats a positive. There are some damn good players on that defense. I by no means view them as a push over.

    Our D was pretty weak today. But they didnt allow too many points. Tho, with Rodgers that would likely have been much different.

    Did anyone notice a big difference when Kendricks went out? I didnt. I think Wolff being out made a difference tho. Chung is terrible. This you noticed Fletch being out too.

    I actually thought Boykin did a hell of a job on Nelson today. I know he let up that catch on the sideline and got flagged on another, but the guy was right with him contesting him.

    Cary Williams…… I mean, they just gotta do better next year.

    You are watching the last weeks of the Peters era in Philly I believe. Hes been good. Not great like he was before but good. They have to move on tho. When a guy is great you can deal with the constant injuries. But next year Lane moves over and we will have to get a RT.

    Cooper continues to play well. Guy adjusts well to balls in the air.

    • anon

      We have a good win and the first comment you have is Vick should be IRed? C’mon man. The only one pursuing that story line is you. (that was my downvote in case you were wondering).

      • Token

        Really? We hear about it all week. Its always a question in the PC. Why continue having that distraction? I dont understand it.

        • anon

          Who is it distracting? Players don’t seem too distracted. Who else really matters?

    • BlindChow

      I’m okay with Vick as a backup instead of Barkley.

      • GEAGLE

        If Vick understand he is just a back up, he can stay here for 3 years as far as I’m concerned…I’m confident FOles consistently plays well enough to handle Vicks shadow as long as Vick takes a backseat role…it’s his choice…does he want to chase his imaginary starter career and fade away like Iverson, or does he want to collect paychecks for a few more years holding a clipboard?

        • anon

          To be fair it seems like they’ve had a great relationship. Not like in Chi-town where Cutler coming back probably caused them a game.

    • Richard Colton

      I hear you Token, but what happens if we claw our way to 8-6, and Foles has a one week injury? I’d be a lot more confident with Vick for one game than Barkley.

    • pjcostello

      I wonder on some of Foles’ hesitations… is he hesitating because he’s expecting a receiver to be in a certain place, running a certain route, and he isn’t? Sometimes watching offensive football is like watching a ballet — all parts moving together in harmony, and when just one piece isn’t correct, the whole thing looks wrong.

  • GEAGLE

    Shady: “Nick is playing OUT of this WORLD right now!!!”
    “if I had to define it,he is playing with tons of swag, he is playing with an attitude, T he best thing about him is he is a leader. He is playing lights out!”-Shady

  • anon

    8 Games over 400yds offense — Franchise Record in Chips first year of coaching? Guess we have to hear all the commentators talk about how his O has been figured out.

    Credit to Coop / Foles — having a second passing weapon has really been the key to this offense.

  • GEAGLE

    Wesbrook just talked about how jealous he is, because under Andy, they wouldn’t audible to run to the other side, away from where the defense is coming the way we have the liberty to do under Chip..Andy would invert the entire play, so the defense still knew were you were running to…under Chip we have the liberty of calling an audible and run to the other side from the same formation,,

    • hillbillybirdsfan

      I thought that I must have misheard that when I was watching the show. His stubbornness made him predictable, especially at the end.

  • Rick H

    Sheil “Foles threw one up for graps” Come on Man! He threw it where the defenders weren’t and threw it to a place where Cooper could catch it. His QB Rating was 149.3 without a interception AGAIN! How about giving Foles credit. Did you see those intelligent decisions to run to get critical first downs??? Maybe you will talk about that in another article later this week.

    • anon

      We got lucky a couple of times — Foles played great but we should try to be objective. Those run plays might also have had something to do with the Coach.

  • RIP illa

    Instant Obv: Thorton and Ryans co-defensive MVP’s!

    Goode may have missed two picks but he stepped up and played well. I even like his personal foul. Hope he has the promise that he showed today.

    Coop, Shady, Barbre, Mathis all had stellar play. All in all good win. Still left w/ a lot of questions moving forward.

    • Richard Colton

      Barbre is a solid back up, but that’s all he is. Agreed that he played well, but there was a marked drop off when Peters got hurt. Serious concern moving forward.

      • anon

        Yeah hate that we might have to spend more picks on o-line — hopefully there’s some FAs…

  • John J. King

    But Chip’s just a college coach and this ‘O’ is just a gimmicky short term deal that the pros will figure out any day now and Foles is just lucky because the league is protecting him and we are playing in a weak division. Lucky, Lucky, Lucky. Meanwhile we non-handwringers are having a blast watching this.

  • jon h

    It was really difficult listening to Buck and Aikman today. I know Eagles fans don’t particularly like Aikman, but he seemed particularly “dissive” of the Eagles today, not giving Foles credit most of the day and finding more excuses for GB than praises for the Birds. Just very annoying when the announcers are supposed to be neutral.

    • anon

      Yeah used to it almost on Eagles away games. Not used to the crappy officiating though. Since no HCs nearly died this week I was hoping we could get some sportscenter time this week but then i saw that Peyton tweaked his ankle so i’m sure that’s the only thing we’ll hear about.

  • BRDLVR

    Even with Reily Cooper’s stupid comments early this season, his numbers have earned him the right to play, so if everyone stays healthy, next season, how do we incorporate him with D Jack and Maclin. Can he play slot? If Foles is the future, his vibe with Cooper is to strong to be on the sidelines. Think about the possibility of having Shady in the backfield and three gangster ass receivers. Chip might show his ass, but this is just my opinion.

  • IHD

    Brandon Boykin is my favorite player not named **-sean. The guy is a ballhawk.

  • JofreyRice

    That looked like an ACL for Kendricks. Sucks. I’ve criticized the guy’s play on the field, but I hope it’s not the worst.

    Despite the dropped INTs and the facemask, I was actually kind of impressed with Goode, in relief.

    • theycallmerob

      amazing what a one-way ticket outta the MRSA colony and a couple of smoothies will do for one’s career

    • Token

      Yea that would suck for the guy.

      But I didnt notice a drop off.

  • theycallmerob

    With the upcoming games against the NFC-N and the Cards, the Iggs control their destiny re: a wild card spot as well. Of course, if some of these DAL injuries are long-term, the division may be more likely!

  • septa_rida

    Officiating was terrible.