What They’re Saying About the Eagles

Here’s a roundup of what the national media are saying about Sunday’s game.

ESPN.com’s Adam Schefter makes the Chip Kelly-Johnny Manziel link:

Back in September 2010, Eagles head coach Chip Kelly got a verbal commitment from Texas high school standout Johnny Manziel. Yet before Manziel could join Kelly at Oregon, he decided he would be more comfortable closer to home in Texas and switched his commitment to Texas A&M. But Manziel was as interested in Kelly as Kelly was in Manziel. Marcus Mariota, a top quarterback prospect who committed to Oregon just months after Manziel and did go on to play for Kelly, is not expected to last until the Eagles’ pick in the April draft. But Kelly might just be in prime position to land the quarterback who once committed to him at Oregon months before Mariota did.

Elliot Harrison of NFL.com likes the Eagles in a 21-20 win:

If you had a dollar for every fan who responded to seeing Seneca Wallace take the field for Green Bay on Monday night with a “He’s still in the league?!”, you could buy enough ad space on Fox to keep us from having to sit through any more “Sleepy Hollow” promos. Even if the banged-up Packers’ defense can hold Philadelphia (and the suddenly scorching Nick Foles) in check, how effective will 33-year-old Wallace be after a short week of practice? Meanwhile, the Eagles’ defense has been playing much better lately, allowing an average of just 17.3 points per game over the past three weeks. Tell you what, though: That group had better bring the wood if it wants to get Eddie Lacy down. Green Bay’s D, meanwhile, had better bring healthy versions of Clay Matthews and Nick Perry.

Greg A. Bedard of TheMMQB.com takes a look at a key matchup Sunday:

A key matchup to watch when the Packers, without Aaron Rodgers, take on the Eagles: Green Bay right tackle Marshall Newhouse and right guard Don Barclay against Philadelphia left end Cedric Thornton. Thornton is an ascending young player, particularly against the run, and the Packers must run the ball for backup quarterback Seneca Wallace to be effective. When starting right guard T.J. Lang went out last week with a concussion, Barclay slid from tackle to guard and Newhouse was a disaster.

Peter Schrager of FoxSports.com predicts a 31-21 Eagles victory:

Nick Foles looked downright awesome on Sunday, and the same Chip Kelly offense I’ve spent plenty of ink passive-aggressively bashing for a lack of ingenuity and/or spark? It shut me up pretty good last week. Michael Vick has the “franchise QB” stamp and salary in Philadelphia, but Foles sure looked the part at Oakland. It’s not often the Packers lose two straight in Lambeau Field, but I like Philly in this one.

Andy Benoit of TheMMQB.com weighs in on the matchup:

Now we’ll find out just how good Eddie Lacy really is. The second-round rookie has rushed for 545 yards over the past five games, toting the rock at least 22 times in each contest. In four of those contests, Lacy often had the luxury of facing just seven, or even six, men in the box, as defenses felt compelled to keep two safeties back deep against Aaron Rodgers. Pardon the exaggeration, but judging by Mike McCarthy’s conservative play-calling with Seneca Wallace last Monday night, the Eagles might not feel compelled to keep even one safety back deep. Lacy, a natural downhill power back with surprising effectiveness out of shotgun, will have to create a lot of his own yards for the first time as a pro.

Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com goes with the Packers, 27-24:

We might find out how ordinary the Packers are without Aaron Rodgers. They will start Seneca Wallace here against the Eagles. The good news is the Eagles aren’t good on defense and they are playing consecutive road games. They will keep it close. Even with Wallace, I think the Packers find a way in a tight one.

Chris Burke of SI.com offers his take:

A game that set up as Michael Vick versus Aaron Rodgers preseason now will feature Nick Foles versus Seneca Wallace. That’s a swap that could play to Philadelphia’s advantage on both accounts. The drop from Rodgers to Wallace certainly looms as a massive one for the Packers, even with their steady run game. Foles is coming off a record-tying seven-touchdown performance and matches wits with a Packers D that had trouble getting off the field Monday.

Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk goes with the Eagles, 30-23:

Philly is 4-1 on the road, 0-4 at home.  More importantly, they head to Lambeau to face a team that has lost its franchise quarterback for a month.  The injuries finally have caught up with the Packers, who’ll suffer the rare indignity of losing twice at home in six days.

Doug Farrar of SI.com has Nick Foles as the QB of his midseason All-Surprise Team:

We’ll give Houston’s Case Keenum an honorable mention here, but really — who else could it be? After his seven-touchdown performance against the Oakland Raiders, Foles has thrown 13 touchdown passes and no picks, all while working around a concussion and an uncertain quarterback situation. He currently ranks second in Football Outsiders’ per-play metrics behind only Peyton Manning.

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  • mrparabolic

    +1 to Peter Schrager for showing an uncommon level of awareness for a national writer.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Thought that as well, if only Florio and Easterbrook would follow suit.

      He gained a lot of respect from me when I read “that really shut me up”

      • bentheimmigrant

        I haven’t read him much this year (mainly thanks to the amazing quality of this site and some of the other bloggers more than providing my fix), but he’s always been willing to make fun of himself.

  • Adam

    Can’t wait for the excuses after the Eagles take this one.

    • anon

      A lot of bet hedging this week. Think our biggest advantage is that this is a road game.

    • Always Hopeful

      “If Aaron Rogers would have played…” Let them have excuses, we”ll take the win!

      • G_WallyHunter

        “Clay Matthews had a club on his hand, how’s he supposed to play well with a club?”

        • Always Hopeful

          “If only we had Matt Flynn instead of Seneca Wallace!” :-)

          • G_WallyHunter

            hahaha “Charles Woodson isn’t there anymore” that’s a bit too far

          • Justin

            I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried that one, especially after we just smoked the team that Woodson is on now.

  • Evan

    But who did Hoge pick?

    • Richard Colton

      or Phil Sims?

      • Max Lightfoot

        Simms and Hoge picked the Packers, with Hoge predicting Packers 23, Eagles 21.

        • Richard Colton

          he’s still harboring an anti-Eagles grudge. Really don’t know why, we let him pick on Izel Jenkins all those years.

  • djack10

    first time this season i wish i had the chance to bet on a game. wallace is zero dimensional. the packers have no shot in this game and have been caught completely flat-footed with such an incapable backup. love it!!

  • Justin

    “Eagles aren’t good on defense and they are playing consecutive road games.”

    Really, Pete? The Eagles defense has been improving, and we seem to play better on the road than at home, buddy.

    • G_WallyHunter

      Ya this was pretty stupid to read lol, Eagles are 4-1 on road, D is getting better, CLEARLY, but no, “they aren’t good on defense and they’re playing two consecutive road games” lol, did Pete take note that the last (and only) 2 game win streak the Eagles had were both on the road? Did he also take note that Oakland scored 20 points (7 in garbage time) in 94 plays against a “bad” defense…

      just ridiculous

      • Justin

        Sometimes I think these guys don’t even watch the most recent games. They watched weeks 1-3 and that was it.

        • G_WallyHunter

          I picture them at their desk, “crap, I need to write an article on this team I don’t even know in the next couple hours, Eagles? Who are they? NFL Team?”

          Then they produce the article they produce.

          • damrvrhunter

            That’s the problem with being a national writer just not enough hours in the day to follow all 32 teams. Makes me think they don’t have interns.

          • G_WallyHunter

            Yup, big reason why this site is the best, we have 2 very high quality writers (who better not go national) covering one team all the time, screw the national stuff. birds 24/7 is all us birds fans need

  • Nick Folds

    Nick Foles and his 7 touchdownsPass Protection control: 70% against the RaidersFoles, a backup quarterback on a mediocre Philadelphia team, threw an NFL record-tying seven touchdowns against the Raiders last weekend. People started immediately talking about him as replacing Michael Vick as the starter and he was the unofficial hero of the week at ESPN.Here’s what slipped under the radar: No one recognized that the Eagles offensive line dominated that game. They gave up two sacks, but the average time before Foles felt pressure in that game was 3.2 seconds, easily the best in the league that week, and his two sacks averaged 3.6 seconds after the snap, when quarterback pressure happens roughly 75 percent of the time. The Eagles offensive line ranks second for the season with 55 percent Pass Protection control and there is no way that Foles puts up seven touchdowns without them going above and beyond that figure last weekend.

    • Richard Colton

      you convinced me. only question left is: should we sign Mike Vick to a ten year extension now, or after the season?

      • G_WallyHunter

        Hammy looks to be coming along fine, Howie should do the right thing and start negotiations

        • Richard Colton

          I was wondering what happened to Atlvickfan. mystery solved.

          • Andy124

            Did you know that Nick Folds has a 0% completion percentage on balls dropped by his receives? Wat a loozr.

          • nicksaenz1

            Changed his name to Nick Folds.

    • nicksaenz1

      Funny thing is that those of us that read this site consistently and don’t just show up to try to act like we know something, we already knew that the O-line played it’s best game all season. Also funny, is that a national writer already made note of the “perfect storm” of a situation for Foles to throw those 7 touchdowns. And through all of those perfect circumstances, guess what….. the QB still has to make the right reads and make the throws that he made, which were basically perfect. Thanks for clearing all of that up, though.

  • Explorer51

    Interesting facts & opinion from Reuben Frank over at Comcast: “A lot of the talk this week has been on the search for consistency from Foles. Once we see him play consistently at a high level instead of up and down, the thinking goes, we’ll know he’s got a good chance to be the guy moving forward. But Jason Kelce makes a good point when he says that Foles has really only had two bad games in his career – his first NFL start, when he threw two interceptions against the Redskins, and two Sundays ago against the Cowboys. In the rest of his career, he has 19 touchdowns and two interceptions and has completed 66 percent of his passes. The game has changed, but consider this: Ron Jaworski played 137 games in an Eagles uniform and had five games in which he completed 70 percent of his passes. Foles has played in 13 games and has had three games completing 70 percent of his passes. He’s accurate, he’s productive, he’s tough, character guy. If he can play well at Lambeau Sunday and then back it up with a good performance against the Redskins going into the bye, it’s going to be really, really difficult to not make the case for Nick Foles, Quarterback of the Future.”

    • G_WallyHunter

      Wow, great point, too bad none of those professional analysts point this out (except Reuban of course), they’re too busy looking for illogical negatives.

    • anon

      Think the difference is that until recently he was throwing 70% and taking Ls. I wouldn’t care if my QB was throwing 90% if we weren’t winning. Much of what analysts say is based of W and Ls.

      • nicksaenz1

        I’d care that my QB was throwing 90% and we were losing. I’d want to know why. Something tells me that with 90% completion it’d likely be a defensive issue. Kind of like last year when the D was giving up over 30ppg after we fired Castillo.

  • G_WallyHunter

    How do peeps feel about this Manziel thing?
    Me personally I don’t like it one bit, I don’t think this kids got what it takes.
    If CK thinks he can run his system at this level, well that has me intrigued, but only because I don’t know as much as many of you commenters and also because I’ve grown confident in Chips evaluation thus far (don’t we all trust his opinion now lol). I don’t like it one bit but I’m aware of my lack of knowledge, I’m no college football geek.
    Why the hell are analysts making this Manziel connection a week after Foles throws 7 TDs? Isn’t that kinda stupid?
    As if FO would let Chip use a 1st round pick on Manziel if Foles happens to play really well the rest of the season, or even leads them to 9 wins, possibly to division win, that would/should squash Manziel talk

    • reb

      The sense I get is that Manziel is a lot like a young Michael Vick – using his innate talents to scramble and create out of broken plays but not fitting in a disciplined system (though I have only read a moderate amount). Pair that with his celebrity-hogging ways and I don’t think he’s a match for Eagles’ green. Could be wrong, I guess.

      • G_WallyHunter

        Not to mention work ethic, Foles is first one in the building last one to leave. His preparation is TOP NOTCH (so we’ve been told)
        All these negative stories about Manziel and his behaviour.
        Come to think about it, I would be extremely pissed off if they took him at all.
        It would take the reigns in my personal list of Eagles F ups, just barely squeezing past the Earl that never was.

        • damrvrhunter

          LoL your animus towards Johnny Football is laughable. The kid was born to play in Chip’s offense. We be real lucky to get a chance to draft him no matter what Foles does the rest of the year. Manziel’s egregious offenses are
          1.) tweeted “can’t wait to leave College Station.
          2.) 20yr old hung over on the morning of a Manning camp.
          3.) allegedly got paid for autographs: investigated and cleared.
          4.) sat court side at a Miami Heat game: also investigated and cleared.
          Somebody call the riot police the kid is a danger to society.

          • G_WallyHunter

            It is laughable why do you think I put the disclaimer. I’m judging his small stature and the few things I’ve heard, kinda hard to say that now tho after today’s game

    • BQNinja

      “…I don’t know as much as many of you commenters…”

      We don’t know that much, we just make up for it by talking too much. Just like any other analyst.

      • G_WallyHunter

        ya more referring to a few commenters who know a lot,can tell by previous comments. you know a bunch of regulars

  • reb

    Here’s a good one from Foxsports:

    Oakland at New York Giants: The Raiders allowed some guy named Nick Foles to throw 7 TD passes last week, which means some guy named Eli could probably go off this week and throw at least two. Giants 20, Raiders 10.

    • Media Mike

      Raiders win. F the Giants.

  • Media Mike

    Prisco = jackoff.

  • Will

    Doug Farrar of SI.com has Nick Foles as the QB of his midseason All-Surprise Team:

    We’ll give Houston’s Case Keenum an honorable mention here, but really — who else could it be? After his seven-touchdown performance against the Oakland Raiders, Foles has thrown 13 touchdown passes and no picks, all while working around a concussion and an uncertain quarterback situation. He currently ranks second in Football Outsiders’ per-play metrics behind only Peyton Manning.

    • nicksaenz1

      Thanks for re-stating that and adding the picture. The picture really provides the much-needed extra dimension.

      • Will

        Glad you approve….hoping Foles, McCoy and O-Line have a big day out there today in GB…

        • nicksaenz1

          Well, not sure how to describe the performance today.

          • Maggie

            How to describe today’s performance? A Win..

          • nicksaenz1

            That was the outcome, not the performance.