Jackson Still Limited With Ankle Injury

DeSean Jackson practice tired helmet offDeSean Jackson is dealing with an ankle injury and was a limited participant at practice for the second straight day.

“Yeah, he hurt his ankle,” said Chip Kelly prior to Thursday’s session. “We’ll see what he can do and what the effects are, but he just rolled it or tweaked it or whatever, but he’s going today.”

Michael Vick (hamstring),  Donnie Jones (left foot) and Casey Matthews (hip) were also limited. Vick will not play this week.




Damaris Johnson missed Wednesday's practice with an ankle injury but was listed as a full participant today. Jake Knott (hamstring) was the only player unable to practice Thursday.

Patrick Chung (shoulder), Jon Dorenbos (groin), Nick Foles (concussion),  Jason Peters (shoulder, finger),  Chris Polk (shoulder) and Cedric Thornton (knee) were all full-go.

Chung, though, is no sure thing as he continues to deal with a nerve injury in his shoulder.

"It's his feel for what he can do.  He can run around full speed.  It's can he take a hit and we're not hitting full speed.  He was a little bit more aggressive today in pads because he's got to test himself a little bit," Kelly explained. "He's doing some work on the sled to see how it responds to that, and we'll see.  I think it's frustrating for Pat.  If you saw Pat last week in practice, he played look squad receiver and he played look squad DB and flew around and took every single rep, and we couldn't get him out, and he's running around full speed.  It's just can he take a hit, and he's still trying to gauge that a little bit.  He was pretty physical yesterday in practice and it'll be interesting to see how he responds.  But we're hopeful that we can get Pat back this week."

If he can't go, rookie Earl Wolff will get the start once again.

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  • 1972

    http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2013/10/booooooooooooo.html
    The lack of toughness in this guy offends me as an eagle fan and true Philadelphian.
    He talks the most but doesn’t stick his neck out when it matters.
    Im sure ill have to hear a bunch of empty stats now that im giving my opinion on Djax.
    He’s owed number 1 WR larry fitzgerald money in 2014.. Time to rebuild

    • Basscase

      I don’t disagree with you.
      When I think #1s, I think Fitz, AJ Green, Megatron (ALL HAIL MEGATRON), and even guys like Vincent Jackson, Andre Johnson, and Steve Smith (not the Giants/Eagles version).

      When I see DJax, I think – he’d be a #2 at best behind someone, and as much as I like how he makes defenses account for him, I don’t see him as “the guy” I can go to on 3rd and 8 when I need to ice the game.
      I like his skillset, but not as a #1. And for the love of toast, please don’t pair him up with Maclin again, else I might yawn.

      • 1972

        I suggest One year deal for maclin and get a number 1 in the draft. No top recievers in free agency for 2014.Jackson has to re negotiate his contract down to about half of what he’s suppose to make next year.
        He aint doing that!!! lol

        • anon

          TBH first 4 games i thought he was going to earn his money, but it’s really the intangibles that are messing things up for him.

          • 1972

            Reid and company over paid him for a championship run, it back fired and now were stuck with a number 2 receiver making top 5 money.
            Number 1 problem I have with him is effort when were losing, number 2 problem is He thinks he’s a great player.
            Jackson isn’t a top 10 receiver

          • Andy124

            When he was signed, the consensus was that it was a team friendly deal.

        • Vick Must Go

          Where do you propose getting a #1? In what round? You are taking a WR in the first instead of a QB? Or a CB? Or a RG? Or a S?

    • 1972

      Give your opinion when you down vote lol

    • cliff henny

      d-jax is 6m dead next yr. probably best interests of him and eagles to just extendand reduce that 12m cap figure for sure. i like jax, but some of his touches need to goto other type recrs. his value is on outside, dictating coverages, getting down the field. eagles need to draft a steve smith, carolina, size type(talent levl would be nice too), that can take these screnes as extended handoffs and run thru tackles. that’s just not jax. even in punts, he doesnt sift thru traffic, he sees seams and is gone. also getting a true #2 recr on opposite would really help.
      .
      i dont see it as toughness, just physics, the guy is 175lbs. he’s limited in what he can do, but what he can do, he’s really freaking good at it. one guy that can house-it from anywhere, that has value

      • Andy124

        Yeah, I’ve got no problem with him protecting himself because of his size.

        He provided an example on that 3rd down of where that line between “protect yourself” and “make the play is”. That play was easily on the “Suck it up and make the play” side of the line. We all know that. I hope his teamates let him know that too and that he accepts it.

        • bentheimmigrant

          I’m still not convinced he knew where the line was – we all get the benefit of the TV lines. Granted, he should be aware of it, but it really looked like he just didn’t realize where he was.

          • Andy124

            Possibility conceeded.

          • bentheimmigrant

            I’d have to watch it again, but I didn’t think he was in for a big hit at the time – it just looked like he was trying to turn it into a big play. Which was stupid, but not weak.

          • Basscase

            I agree. I think he’s suffering from the same thing Shady is – since everyone’s struggling, he’s trying to make something into an even bigger something, and in turn he loses the something.

            Guys have to be told to play within the system and not take it over. When that happens, you have to be careful, otherwise guys will lose faith in the system. I don’t think they’re there yet (execution has been poor lately), but it’s one thing the coach has to drill into these guys.

          • 1972

            i would agree if I hadn’t seen him check out in numerous games were losing.

          • Basscase

            Yeah, I don’t disagree with you – I remember someone (maybe Tim) saying he was checked out of the game against Dallas last week, and a couple of people had to go over and talk with him. And it’s not like they were getting blown out, either – him showing up Foles was just wrong, even if Foles had a day to forget (and he probably did, but that’s a side issue).

            If this is your “veteran leadership”, you’re in a lot of mess.

            I think that this particular play, he did something stupid, but that doesn’t change the fact that he does have an attitude problem. When they’re winning, it’s tolerable; when they’re losing, it’s disruptive.

          • BlindChow

            Yeah, it’s not like that Steve Smith play a couple years ago (and I think Maclin’s had a few) where he just dropped to the ground.

          • 1972

            Steve smith and Jeremy maclin aren’t self proclaimed number 1 receiver’s. compare him to players he thinks he’s good as.
            Before we resigned him, he said he was as good fitzgerald. F.O.H !!!!!

        • cliff henny

          yeah, he should have dove across line, agree with his post on that specific play. the extrapolation of that play vs d-jax value to a team is what i disagree with. that pass should be going to a cruz like slot, jax isnt that, he isnt the guy who’s fighting for yardage. eagles just need a more complete wr group. i still see value in having d-jax stay outside numbers where he most comfortable.

          • 1972

            I understand your rationale, but you cant explain away his faults and except his dollar amount. Hes our number 1 receiver. Its not even about trucking the guy. He didn’t want the contact at all.. He dives we get that first down

          • cliff henny

            to me, you are mixing arguements. part a, yeah, buck up little F–K, get the 1st…part 2, yes, he’s overpaid, but cant change that. he does have value at a lower cost. he hasnt broken a tackle in 5yrs, he is what he is. 12m, no, i’m not ok with that in’14, but at 7-8m, yes, i am. 4.2 game breaking speed is worth that. every team would line up to pay him 8m

          • Andy124

            Really? I like moving him around, trying to create matchups, keeping him less predictable. Maybe you make it a point not to throw it to him at 8 yards on 3rd and 9, but I wouldn’t want to go back to Reid’s way of using him.

            The main point I was making with my original post was to agree with you about not expecting DJax to play big, but highlight that we all agree that particular play is NOT what we mean when we accept him playing small.

          • cliff henny

            that play on 2nd 10, yeah, all day.

          • UKEagle99

            I agree with that as well, why does it appear you and Cliff are disagreeing.

          • Andy124

            Once we got the details cleared up we were on the same page.

          • UKEagle99

            I agree

      • 1972

        Protection? if he needs protection then we shouldn’t be paying him like a top wide out. Don’t even get me started on punt returns. he wants no part of special team. Even though he knows he’s the best option right now. The way he let the ball bounce to the goal line??? Somebody said he’s trying to hard , doing to much. not on that play!!!!

        • cliff henny

          agree he’s over-paid, we differ in i still see value, you want him gone. cant change contract terms, dont compound 1 mistake with another. guy with legit 4.2 take top off defenses dont grow on trees. get a slot guy who makes that catch and can side-step defender for a 1st…that’s just not jax. why i dont like avant as slot guy next yr. hat’em, but, put that ball in cruz’ hands, its a 1st.

          • Andy124

            I keep hearing that DJax is in a “virtual contract year”. I haven’t looked at the details, I was just assuming that meant that we don’t really care what the rest of his contract says because he’s getting renogotiated and signing a new contract, period.

            Am I close?

          • cliff henny

            yes, something has to happen. he’s 12m against, 6m dead. but they do control him and no guarantee money. he wont want to play without a guarentee, eagles dont want to pay him 12m. cap hit of 6m seems like alot, he does have some value, so meet in the 7-8m range on couple yr extension w/ addition guarentees, both sides happy. get legit #2 and a slot w yac, i’ll be happy w/ jax doing his thing next to sidelines 90% of the time

    • bentheimmigrant

      I blame that play on a lack of awareness more than toughness – he didn’t think situationally. On top of that, he likely thought he could beat the guy to the corner. A large part of this is probably that he’s never really had to think this way – catching the ball on the short side of the first down marker isn’t exactly familiar territory for him.

    • Vick Must Go

      You rebuild with young players. He’s young. You rebuild by cutting old players, not a 25-26 year old WR that is top 10 in the league in receiving. Especially when your next two best options are Cooper and Avant. So you cut Desean, and you draft a guy in the 1st round and hope he isn’t AJ Jenkins… or in the 2nd round and hope he isn’t Reggie Brown… or you pick one up off of free agency and hope he isn’t Jennings/Wallace/etc. Best option is to keep him. Not sure how you can logically reason otherwise.

      • 1972

        Is desean Jackson one of the top 10 receivers in the nfl?
        Fantasy maybe, the real nfl? not at all.
        if you think he is name your top 10. lets see where your credibility is.

        • Vick Must Go

          If we cut everyone on our team that isn’t top 10, we wouldn’t have a team. Nor would any other team in the league. There is no way you can argue that Jackson is not a starter in this league. I could see an argument regarding mid to low 1 vs. high 2, but you can’t say he isn’t a strong starter. And with that in mind, you don’t cut a mid 20’s staring WR.

          Your statement “time to rebuild” indicates they should cut him. Otherwise, what are you indicating? Instead of your ludicrous top ten list, I will instead give you a better top 10 list. The top 10 positions that need to be addressed far far far before Jackson ever comes into mind:

          #1 QB
          #2 S
          #3 RG
          #4 WR replacement for Cooper
          #5 ROLB
          #6 CB
          #7 CB again

          #8 Returner
          #9 Kicker
          #10 Slot WR

          Once you replace those, then you can likely still make arguments for replacing Ryans, Kendricks, Barwin, and Mathis before getting near Jackson.

          So let’s test your credibility. Name 10 starters that will certainly be with this team next year that are better players at their respective position than Jackson. I think everyone on this board knows how has more credibility in this discussion.

          • 1972

            Lol you didn’t answer my question

          • Vick Must Go

            I didn’t answer your question because the question was so epically stupid that I didn’t want to expose your sadly low IQ to the entire board. Your question was if Jackson is a top 10 WR, and was posed in relation to compensation. But the question is invalid when taken in context of the salary structure of the NFL. You can’t compare Jackson and his respective salary to Dez Bryant, Julio Jones, and AJ Green when those 3 players are all still playing under their rookie contract and is mandated to be at a lower salary than Jackson. All three will get bigger paydays than Jackson when legally allowed. A more intelligent question is where Jackson’s salary ranks in comparison to other WRs that are no longer playing under their rookie contract. See here:

            http://overthecap.com/top-player-salaries.php?Position=WR

            7 WR are higher paid than Desean:, Johnson, Fitz, Harvin WALLACE!!??!?!, BOWE???!?!?!, Marshall, Vincent Jackson. Andre Johnson makes the same amount… and is 32 years old…

            Go through the list of names below Jackson and show me a single player that is no longer on their rookie contract that you would say is a #1 WR. Hint, there isn’t one.

            I suspect you won’t respond to this, because you will realize how inept you are and how insufficient your knowledge is. If you respond at all, it will be based completely on subjective “feelings” and will have no objective facts to back it up. I’ve provided facts above… I’ll await yours. Or you can be a man and forfeit the point to me while acknowledging your embarrassing ignorance. And… GO!

          • 1972

            Took you two whole days to respond with this long winded post.
            You’re obviously a woman lol. Don’t worry babe, your boyfriend is still on the team.I don’t wanna argue, if you have a problem with me why respond to my thoughts?

          • Vick Must Go

            Yeah… a no-response. No counter, no facts, no ground to stand on

          • 1972

            In my opinion he’s not a 1, in your opinion he is. Those are the facts hun

          • Vick Must Go

            By definition, there are 32 #1 WRs in the league. Name 32 that are better than Jackson. Or try to counter salary. You throw out an opinion that has no basis at all whatsoever in fact. And end it with “lets see where your credibility is.”

            I’ve clearly presented my credibility, and so far you have supported your incredibility.

            So I ask you again, present your counter or admit you have the football IQ of an ameoba.

  • Basscase

    I think he’ll be fine for this week. Since they’re away from home, they should play much better. He’ll try to have a big day in front of his Cali bretheren, which should suit well for the Eagles.

  • Will

    You need a tall, big body #1 receiver with speed to compliment DJax…not Maclin