Animated Kelly Tackles QB Question

Photo | Jeff Fusco

Photo | Jeff Fusco

“Let me ask you a serious question,” said Chip Kelly, throwing it back at a reporter. “How many times are you going to ask me that same question?”

The question was about (you guessed it) the train wreck of a quarterback situation. Will Kelly go week-t0-week with this thing? When Michael Vick returns from his hamstring injury, what then? Kelly didn’t come across as angry, but grew about as animated as we have seen him since he took over the head coaching job back in January.


"I am going to make my determination on a weekly basis who our quarterback is first and foremost based on health. The ideal world, Mike's the healthiest in the world, Nick's the healthiest in the world, Matt's the healthiest in the world. Let's get to that point in time and then we'll have a conversation.

"I'm getting ready to play the Oakland Raiders, and I'm getting ready with Nick Foles and Matt [Barkley] because Mike is not practicing today and that's it."

The instability at quarterback and the Eagles' 3-5 record has a lot of people thinking big picture. Do you start going into evaluation mode to get a better feel for what you have on your roster?

Kelly was asked: Where does next year come in?

"It doesn't come in," he shot back. "It's about beating Oakland, that's it. It's a one-week season and that's all it is. Last week it was about beating the Giants. There wasn't. 'Hey, what are we going to be like next year and let's go see if we can activate G.J. [Kinne] and throw him into the mix.' That's not our mentality. Our mentality is, who are we playing right now. And I think it's a disservice to those other players on our team and it's a disservice to our fans if I'm thinking about who our quarterback is going to be next year. I'm thinking about beating who we are playing this week. And we're playing the Oakland Raiders and that's it. That's the deal.

"It will never be that way. We're trying to win the game we're playing this week. And if we start playing it long term, I may not be here long term. You know what I'm saying? So let's go beat Oakland."

Kelly said that Foles will get the start against the Raiders. Vick will sit as he continues to battle through a hamstring injury. The MRI did not reveal any new injuries to the QB, according to Kelly.

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  • GiveMeABreak

    Sign Tebow now. We need someone who can run the read option and who is cheap and who will take this farce in another bad comedic direction. Do it now Howie!

    • defroe81

      haaaaaaa lol tebow! tebow! tebow! lol

    • Poopdollar

      you, sir, should be shipped out of Philly.

      • defroe81

        i must be signed in to down vote…

    • TheCatalyst

      13 people don’t get sarcasm.

      • defroe81

        ha lol its funny just to write tebow and see how everyone reacts they didnt read the “will take this face in another bad comedic direction” part it guess.

      • GiveMeABreak

        If this comment was an IQ test, this board would be 2/15 passing. No wonder there are so many Howie supporters on this board. Gives a little more context for the “someone for everyone” comment.

  • Richard Colton

    From the day he got here, Chip has preached “Win the Day.” I don’t have an issue with him being consistent. He should be trying to win every game. Now when/if the Eagles are eliminated from playoff contention, they have some hard choices for next year.

    Think Chip is testy now? Wait until the Birds are 3-10 and he sits a healthy Vick, then somebody (looking at you Les Bowen) asks him about “winning the day.” In the words of great-in-his-own-mind receiver, “Get your popcorn ready.”

    • Token

      This should be a fun rest of the year. A whole lot more losses coming. And Chip is already testy.

      • Will

        5-11 by season end….Chip should get a tad more testy as we go….play offs…..play offs…..reminds me when Jim Mora went full retard..

      • OregonDucker

        Chip is not use to losing. He will find a way to turn things around. He might go very unconventional in offensive scheme. He gets real innovative when he’s pissed off – like now.

        • cliff henny

          offense cant even handle the basic scheme yet. let’s get zone reads down first, than start doing jet sweep throwbacks to qb.

        • Will

          Chip can get pissed all he wants. Truth is he doesn’t have a very talented football team to execute his schemes.

          • anon

            hopefully he’s letting howie and laurie know on the daily

          • GiveMeABreak

            He has a talented Offense with a ? mark at QB. If he had thought twice about his QB situation, we might have started the season with better backups to Vick than two successive 4th round picks. Of course, if keeping the payroll low is a higher priority than preparedness, you find yourself in a situation like we are now in. All of this was foreseeable and, in the case of the injury to Vick, even likely. Now you can see why Belichick warned him off of Philly.

        • Token

          Ive yet to see anything innovative about the man.

          • mksp

            Then you’re not paying attention. I’m seeing wide open receivers that our QBs have failed to accurately throw the ball to over the last two games.

    • ACViking

      If Kelly’s still talking about playing Vick if/when the Eagles are out of the playoffs . . . of even looking to qualify at 6-10 . . . then it’d be fair to say about his approach:

      “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”

      • Richard Colton

        upvoting the comment and the quote

      • Chris

        Didn’t think i’d see/hear the word “hobgoblin” today, especially not on a sports site. Every day is a new surprise.

    • RaiderDebo

      “Great in his own mind”?? Please tell me you’re not referring to TO. You think he sucked or something?? SMH.

      • Richard Colton

        was there ever an NFL star who thought more highly of himself? and why does greatness preclude arrogance? in all the years you watched T.O., was there ever a time the volume on the TV was on?

        • knighn

          Raiders fan + Eagles Forum = Trolling

          • Richard Colton

            and that’s the best he can do?

          • knighn

            Nah. He/She/It goes on some great rants about Vick’s awesomeness and such. I try not to feed the Trolls… especially when they’re being so obvious about it.

            Sometimes I do wonder if Dutch is just an elaborate Troll. He skips back and forth from making perfect sense to spouting perfect nonsense. The only consistency is that he’s so damn arrogant about everything. It makes him very hard to agree with, even on the occasions where he’s actually right.

          • Richard Colton

            don’t take Dutch away from me. he has to be real.

          • cliff henny

            outside of qbs, he makes alot of sense. gets a little frustrating when he pulls one minor point from a post and acts like it’s your central theme.

          • theycallmerob

            I sometimes wonder if, due to the limited posts he contributes on (but with great brevity and volume), they only get a few hours of internet access a week at whatever institution in which he currently resides.

        • RaiderDebo

          Dude, I couldn’t care less about his “arrogance”. It’s the NFL. And he was arguably the best at his position. So sue the guy if he was a little arrogant. Volume up or down, the guy balled out.

          • Richard Colton

            Ohh I see, you are trolling. TO was a top 5 receiver in his day. and a clubhouse cancer. and he was great-in-his-own-mind. now beat it.

          • RaiderDebo

            TO is the best receiver in Philly history. You should be kissing the dude’s feet instead of spitting venom.

          • theycallmerob

            I’d take Carmichael any day.

          • RaiderDebo

            Can’t really argue with that. But you get the point. The fact that TO is in that convo having just played two years there says a lot about how good he was.

          • theycallmerob

            or how bad the rest of the WRs are/were!

            Stats aside, there’s a reason he went through so many teams. I’d take a somewhat lesser (talent) receiver over TO any day. One of my least favorite players of all time.

          • anon

            he’s a top 5 receiver in the history of the nfl.

      • Weapon Y

        As much as I thought T.O. went too far in disrupting the team, the blame for that saga falls squarely on the shoulders of the usual suspects: Joe Banner and Jeffrey Lurie. T.O. deserved to be paid like the number one receiver in the NFL because he was the number one receiver in the NFL. If Banner wasn’t such a cheap POS and gave TO the money he deserved from the $20+ million they had over the cap, the Eagles could’ve won a Super Bowl. Let’s not let Donovan McNabb get off the hook either. He was no saint in this whole mess. He went out of his way to say Eagles management should’ve increased Brian Westbrook’s salary. Don’t get me wrong. I loved Westbrook. But how could you possibly argue that Westbrook was more worthy of a new contract than TO? Mcnabb’s silence and double standard clearly got under TO’s skin and that was what set off a disaster. Sure, TO deserved some of the blame, but not the majority of it. The way the Eagles do business really rubs players the wrong way. The beloved Brian Dawkins left Philadelphia when Banner let him know he wasn’t going to give him the money he deserved. You can’t defend Dawkins and not defend TO, even if you do have to make some minor caveats in TO’s case. So yeah, I said it. TO was right. Look where Andy and Donovan got without him.

        • djack10

          couldn’t agree more. penny-wise, pound foolish. the guy came back from a broken leg and did everything possible to win that game. he gave mcnabb the best year of his entire career. and banner has to let his ego get in the way instead of just paying the man. i firmly believe if TO got the money, he would have broken all kinds of records the following year.

          that situation revealed a different side of mcnabb that was really disappointing.

  • Dustan M. Howell

    Honestly, we know the #Eagles QB of the future is not on this roster right now. Chip knows it, and the Philly Media knows it. Vick won’t be ready for another month, and I don’t see us winning anymore games with Barkley or Foles under center save for serious ineptitude on the part of our opponents. If the season ended right now, we’d be pick 9th overall, and quite honestly, if anything, I see us moving up the draft board and not down.

    • Andy124

      “know” is a strong word.

    • djack10

      eagles win this week with foles. he had a bad game. nothing to see here.

  • Broadcasting Wisdom

    Come on Tim, you’re not even going to tell us which annoying reporters asked those annoying questions? Had to be McLane.

    • GEAGLE

      It was Zack Berman. After Kelly put Zack in I his place it was Howard Eskihs turn to ask a question. he started with “please don’t yell at me Chip” in a joking tone

  • cliff henny

    in fairness, how does a reporter not ask about qb situation? be like talking to a neighbor with a nail sticking out of his head..mean, ya gotta ask. kelly comes across like an easy going guy, but he had no problem going 12 rounds with the press in Oregon.

    • OregonDucker

      I agree Cliff. This is not a happy Chip. I’ve never seen him this way. The Raiders are in for it.

    • Will

      Referring to Depth Chart might be helpful…..Vick/Foles/Barkley/ Kinne….next man up…Now in fairnes does Chip know how many weeks Vick will be out? No. If Vick is out 4 weeks say. Does Chip know if Foles will go 4-0 in that stretch or 0-4? No.That’s what they want to know if Vick plays when healthy. Cross that bridge when we get there. Stupid questions by hacks trying to stir the pot for a story.

  • You

    The whole culture of reporting the minutae of pro football is grating. Smoothies and sleep monitors, asking about hypotheticals, speculating on someone else’s thoughts, etc. etc. etc. GACK!

  • mtn_green

    This is a team that had a QB competition last until 2nd preseason game, Vick played well until injury, Foles lit it up then stank. Who is QB when all healthy? Chip doesn’t know. Also does know if all healthy will happen. This isn’t a situation where you have Manning, Brady, and qb2 is a known seat filler. Chip doesn’t want to thwart Foles desire to rock out and win job. Nor let Vick be too complacent.

  • jabostick

    When Chip first got to Philly and all of his press conferences were filled with clever comments and winks and nods, I wondered how that attitude would go over when things got bumpy.

    I think he still handles himself well and like everything he says here. While I don’t agree with some coaching decisions he’s made, I feel like he’s justified most of them pretty well. I think he’s found a pretty nice balance of being honest and open, spreading criticism around justly, etc.

  • Mr. Magee

    On the one hand there is nothing else Kelly can say / do, other than what he is saying / doing. But let’s be honest – it is ALL about next year and beyond (I even think they should be playing Barkley this week, but that’s fodder for another discussion).

    For Kelly to be testy at this point is practically ludicrous; either he doesn’t get it, or he thinks the media and fans are stupid. This shtick about it being all about this week’s game is not helpful and will not get the press off his back.

    • BlindChow

      For the players, it is and should be all about this week’s game. I don’t think Kelly needs to answer questions in a certain way just to “get the press off his back.” The only people’s perceptions he needs to worry about are those in the locker room.

  • B-West

    Just watched the presser…. I don’t care to argue the semantics of ‘animated’ or ‘shot back’, but I don’t think it was that big of a deal. I thought he came off very well in the video, actually. He wasn’t defensive or irritable, just anxious to kick Oaktown’s A.

    He’s definitely dodging questions in those pressers, but I do buy the aspect that he is simply focused on the task at hand and what he has influence over. When reporters start asking him things he doesn’t know, or things he knows he has no control over so he doesn’t care to know, he just doesn’t take the time to play their game. Hence, he doesn’t do hypotheticals.

    • Basscase

      I have to wonder how long he can do this for, though. Belichek, IMO, has the right mindset to the media, and he gets away with it b/c he shows results.

      Personally, I would not have engaged with the media as much as Chip has. This could end up being at best an annoyance and at worst an unneeded distraction.

      • anon

        it was all good just (two) weeks ago…

        • Basscase

          Shows the fickle nature of media. At least northeast media…

          • cliff henny

            every big market has the same media blowhards. crappy reporters isnt regional to NE

      • B-West

        Good point. Did Belichick evolve to his current state with the media? Or is that how he started? I wonder if Chip will start shutting it down as he gets more and more annoyed with the same questions.

    • Bdawkbdawk

      Why do Eagles fans suddenly want to throw the season everytime they think The Eagles don’t have good odds to win the superbowl? I just don’t understand it. I think the McNabb Reid era really spoiled us. Yea, we have a very flawed team. So what? Flawed teams win football games. Flawed teams even win superbowls. This isn’t the NBA where teams need to bottom out.
      I’m tired of losing to the Giants and Cowboys. I don’t want to wait three years of high draft picks to take them down. Shady shouldn’t want to waste his prime. The O-line shouldn’t want to waste its glory years. Chip is right. You fight for today.
      Furthermore, when did the local media trick all of Philadelphia that they were on our side? How is it that we think that Chip or Reid for that matter should have to tell the country why plays went wrong. In season, I don’t want to know if Chip called a naked bootleg because he thinks a play we run exposes a flaw in a certain coverage scheme. Or if he was just running a burn play to set up the next option run. Keep it and use it again. Maybe our rookie QB will make the correct decision next time. If Chip answered every question honestly, the Eagles would be flayed and vulnerable to the rest of the League. We win spectacularly and the media gets its story. We lose spectacularly, and they get an even juicier story. fans should recognize this unfortunate fact and stop killing Chip for acting in the best interest of the team.

      • Will

        The O-Line glory days may have past, agree why waste Shady’s prime. The truth is this is not a very talented football team. Which is further complicated by the fact of inconsistent execution week in and week out. 6 of the next 8 games are outside the Division. The Eagles are 1-3 out of the Division so far with the lone win against an 0-7 Tampa team. The Eagles are 2-2 inside the Division. The Eagles may very well not even make the play offs. Defenses win Championships ours is 32 against the pass and yards surrender until that changes the record won’t improve. The Offense once again has trouble scoring in the red zone which is a direct reflection of the O-Line in front of it. Short and goal you should be able to line up and power run for a TD. Until the red zone issues are worked out scoring remains a problem. Peters is injured, Mathsis is playing great, Kelce, Herremans and Lane are all struggling.

      • KobraKai7474

        Yes, flawed teams do make the playoffs and occasionally, they even win some games once getting there. However, teams without a quarterback do NOT make the playoffs and do not win playoff games and most definitely do not win Superbowls. On very, very, very rare occasions, a team with a great defense and great running game and a “game manager” type quarterback can make some noise, but the Eagles are extremely lacking in the necessary ancillary parts to follow that model… and that’s assuming the three-headed monster of Vick/Foles/Barkley can advance to the point where they can be considered competent game managers and they are very far from that right now.

        • Bdawkbdawk

          Wrong.

          Dilfer, Flacco, Johnson, Namath, Bradshaw, Hostetler, Stabler, and Eli Manning. These Guys account for at least 25% of all Superbowls
          Manning is the best example because he had a terrible running game too. The Eagles’ running game has been, and could be, every bit as good as these other teams. And yes we have worse defenses. Substanitaly worse. But it is a one and done league. All you need is a couple plays, a couple mistakes, or a pass rush to get hot at the right time.
          By the statistics, Vick was one of the best QBs in the league prior to his injury. I don’t pretend Vick is actually that good – because he is not. But if you look at it by stats youre out of your depth and if you think you need a great QB to win a superbowl youre sorely mistaken.

          • Brian

            Vick was not one of the best, prior to his injury. He was middle of the pack, at best.

          • KobraKai7474

            First of all, you have to toss out Namath, Bradshaw and Stabler. Yes, their numbers look comically bad when compared to modern QBs, but that is because the game has changed so much. Back then, in an era with mostly outdoor stadiums that were built with no consideration for wind and with poorly kept grass or astroturf fields, the belief was that a team needed to play defense and run the ball to win games after Thanksgiving so teams were built with defense first. QBs, even very good ones, generally only threw the ball on 3rd down and when behind and, on a few other occasions, to “keep the other team honest”. It was common for a great team of that era… say, for example, the Steelers who had two of the best WRs in the game at the time and a darn good QB… to only throw the ball 20 times or less per game. They typically just handed the ball to Franco Harris and Rocky Blier 35 or more times per game and waited for their defense to win it (and that was usually more than enough).
            As for the more modern QBs you list, which as I said in my post, I consider to be game manager types, those teams, while flawed offensively… and sometimes defensively, too… they still did several things very, very well, which allowed them to win games in January based on matchups. Dilfer’s Ravens, Johnson’s Bucs, and Hostetler’s Giants all won with GREAT defense. To a lesser extent, so did Flacco’s Ravens. Eli Manning’s Giants (both times) may not have had great defenses, but they did rush the passer exceptionally well, which is what allowed them to get on such a roll in the playoffs and, as much as it pains me to say it, Eli Manning, while perhaps not as good as his brother was still a very above-average NFL QB during the Giant’s two Super Bowl seasons.
            The point here is that the Eagles possess NONE of the things that even flawed teams rely on to win some playoff games and, on occasion, steal a Super Bowl. While their defense has looked competent over the past few weeks (and that is a good thing), it is NOWHERE CLOSE to the great defenses of the 80s Giants, 90s Bucks, 00s Ravens and it is certainly nothing like the great Steelers and Raiders defenses of the 70s. It is also sorely lacking in even one signature strength (like the recent Giants’ Super Bowl team’s pass rush) that a team can rely on in the playoffs. As for their running game, it has only looked good when Vick is able to run the read-option and keep defenses guessing. Not only is Vick unable to run right now, but if/when he gets healthy, he will just get hurt again if he has to run read-option plays 20 times per game. Heck, I have not seen evidence that ANY one of the Eagles QBs can even play the role of game manager (i.e. make a few high percentage passes and never ever turn the ball over while letting the running backs win the game). In other words, the Eagles have NONE of the things required by a flawed team to be even moderately successful in the playoffs.
            Mind you, I am not saying they should tank the season. I AM saying that they need to play Nick Foles for the last 8 games (assuming he remains upright) and figure out once and for all if he is a guy to build a team around. If he is, that is great. Not only could he potentially lead the team to the playoffs in a putrid NFC East (and that would be a good thing), but then next year’s draft can be used to fill some of the many other holes on this team and work toward creating a real Super Bowl contender. If he isn’t, then, next year’s draft, first and foremost, must be about getting a QB of the future so, again, this team can be rebuilt in a way that is genuinely competitive (rather than just hoping that the NFC East will be awful again).

          • Bdawkbdawk

            I’m not going to read your entire screed because this is a message board and that’s just way too long.
            Namath, Bradshaw and Stable should not be thrown out because accounting for differences in the game and era should not distort their TD to INT ratio. (Bradshaw 212 TDS 210 INTs) (Namath 173 TDs 220 INTs) ( Stabler 194 TDs 222 INTs). Good QBS of any era don’t turn the ball over.
            Vick has been at the helm of one of the leagues most explosive offenses and has an extremely high YPA. He has gotten injured because he’s Mike Vick and he’s old – not because of the system. And the Eagles are every bit as capable as the Giants or some other lucky ass team who got hot and won a superbowl. I’m not saying we will, becuase forr a lot of these teams it took a ton of luck and fortuitous circumstances. Lottery Ticket stuff. But if you play your best players and try to win every game, good things sometimes happen. Even when you don’t expect it.

          • Kev_H

            You are either 12 or need to rethink things. Recall that DBs were allowed to engage with receivers in bygone days. The gold standard in the 70s was a 1-to-1 TD/INT ratio. In 1975 10 regular QBs were worse than that a couple were worse than 1-to-3

          • Bdawkbdawk

            I recall it well. How does having 10 QBs worse then you, make you a good QB? By that non-logic I suppose you’d think that Brandon Weeden is a good QB this year.
            If you are using “Gold Standard” correctly as a fixed or constant against which one can measure the value of other things, then I suppose I agree. 1-to-1 was the Gold Standard. The measure of an average or unremarkable QB.

          • Kev_H

            Apparently not. To put it another way, in 1975 there were 13 QBs who threw more than 300 passes, only 6 of them had more TDs than INTs.

          • Kev_H

            In 1977 5 out of 25 QBs who passed over 200 times had more TDs than INTs. Jones, Staubach, Griese, Haden, Morton.

      • B-West

        Oh yeah, somehow the team got MUCH worse but the fanbase kept the Super Bowl or bust mantra. And a lot of the media questions lately have seemed to have the intent to create in house issue. Hey Barkley, Chip said this in his presser.. Next day, Hey Chip, Barkley actually said this about that play. Same with the running game questions, next day they run to Shady and say ‘Hey, Chip says you aren’t hitting the hole.’

        I know its the media’s job, but the job has evolved into something that’s a little over the top IMO.

      • #7

        Wish that could happen on here. It can’t. Even our HC is tired of talking about next year. He wants to win and he should

    • GEAGLE

      Yeah i agree…the radio reported it like all hell broke loose, so ii went back and watched it…just a typical drama queen media over reaction

  • Basscase

    Regardless of whether or not Kelly was as “chipper” as the article might suggest, this isn’t a battle he can win.

    If somehow he gets to go toe-to-toe with the media, it won’t end well for him. Not to say that he should, but they’re going to write what they write (usually) and it’s smarter to focus on the issue at hand (which he’s doing).

    What hasn’t helped is he’s allowed the media to second-guess decisions he’s made.

  • defroe81

    lol we should sign TO and ocho cinco and tebow

    • theedevilsadvocate

      lol i like this guy…

  • RIP illa

    I don’t get what the big deal is!!! I’m completely fine w/ what he said and his tone. We have a losing rec, the O has played horrible the last 2 games, and we’re behind in the division. How the hell is he supposed to sound and what the hell is he supposed to say when asked the same questions over and over again??? If he came out and answered like everything was gum drops, rainbows and sunshine I would have a very big problem!!!

    “It doesn’t come in,” he shot back. “It’s about beating Oakland, that’s it. It’s a one-week season and that’s all it is. Last week it was about beating the Giants. There wasn’t. ‘Hey, what are we going to be like next year and let’s go see if we can activate G.J. [Kinne] and throw him into the mix.’ That’s not our mentality. Our mentality is, who are we playing right now. And I think it’s a disservice to those other players on our team and it’s a disservice to our fans if I’m thinking about who our quarterback is going to be next year. I’m thinking about beating who we are playing this week. And we’re playing the Oakland Raiders and that’s it. That’s the deal.”

    Without a doubt in my mind, this is the best quote of this whole article!!! That’s how I want my coach to sound and what I would want my coach to say. Makes me all warm and fuzzy for Chip again. Now I just want him to add to that mentality by making some different adjustments throughout the game and put an end to the questionable situational calls that have been persistent. Other than that I can’t ask for anything more from the guy. Here’s to turning it around!!!

    • BHOtheLiar

      They play to win the game . . .

      . . . but there has been plenty of evidence that this is a rebuilding year and trades like the one yesterday are for the future.

      • RIP illa

        FO moves vs Coaching moves…two completely different things. Especially since Chip doesn’t focus on that side of the ball. Was he made aware of the move before hand…yeah! Did he have to show he was OK w/ it…yeah! But what else is he gonna do??? ‘No don’t trade Issac, I won’t let you, no way in hell.’ So basically the trade from yesterday has nothing to do w/ what was said today and his approach to games!

        • BHOtheLiar

          You are kidding yourself

          • RIP illa

            I think you’re kidding yourself and refusing to see any logic. I’m sorry, I didn’t know Chip came to Philly and already was given or established as much control and power over player personnel as Banner, Reid, and Roseman combined!!! especially since Lurie came out and absolved Howie of all past wrong doings and indicated that Howie is now in full control of all decisions as his title of GM should have required him to be from the outset!

            So like I said. The trade yesterday was an FO move. Sure sometimes a coach is going to go to war w/ the FO for certain players. However usually that involves not getting rid of a player rather than getting rid of them (unless trust coach is Jeff Fisher and the player is VY) and also a coach has to chose his battles w/ that!!! You really think Chip is gonna go to war for Soap who was a below average to mediocre NT…now who’s fooling themselves???

          • cliff henny

            sure kelly was given both a conference call discussing possible moves at some point in last week, and a call courtesy call before finalizing move. sure guy like curry, he’d been way more involved.

          • RIP illa

            Exactly

          • BHOtheLiar

            So you think that is how it works.

            What makes you think CK cared one way or the other about IS?
            They dumped salary, a player that wasn’t part of the future (Or the present for that matter) and they picked up a draft choice.

            Simple as that.

          • RIP illa

            I thought I already answered that question

          • BHOtheLiar

            It wasn’t a question and you didn’t answer anything.

          • RIP illa

            LMAO…you’re all sorta messed up today!

            “What makes you think CK cared one way or the other about IS?”
            That my friend is called a question!!!
            A ?! or ??? would make it a rhetorical question.

            This whole part…“They dumped salary, a player that wasn’t part of the future (Or the present for that matter) and they picked up a draft choice.” is pretty much irrelevant as I agree and DID NOT argue anything to the contrary!

            As far as me answering “nothing”…I would refer you to the fore mentioned statements I made. Such as…“Was he made aware of the move before hand…yeah! Did he have to show he was OK w/ it…yeah! But what else is he gonna do??? ‘No don’t trade Issac, I won’t let you, no way in hell.’” And…“You really think Chip is gonna go to war for Soap who was a below average to mediocre NT.”. However since you seem to not be able to read between the lines…It’s a head coaches job to know and care about all the moves and other aspects of his team!!! Although he may not be able to do much about them, as I previously implied several times, he still must be aware or made aware and have a figurative finger on the pulse of his locker room. So yes he I think he cared and any 1/2 way decent coach would care, to a certain extent. Him caring v how much he cares are also two different things.

            Don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish by following your approach and line of replies, but I hope you start to understand what I was saying from the beginning and what I have been replying to you.

    • Andy124

      See that, he’s dropping hints about GJ.

      It’s just a matter of time…

  • theedevilsadvocate

    chip is fine get off his jock…

    • theedevilsadvocate

      on another note now defroe81 can downvote bitches… teeeebooooooowwwwww!!!!!!!!!! lol

      • Andy124

        I don’t think Tebow would like your name. He hates the devil.

        • theedevilsadvocate

          tell you the truth ive never liked tebow. i just like going angainst the majority…

          • anon

            trolling you mean?

          • theedevilsadvocate

            if that’s what you choose to call it. meet you under the youtube bridge bro…

    • theedevilsadvocate

      ok chip is not fine jump right on his jock lol

  • John J. King

    Question: Do whiney, front running reporters beget whiny front running fans or vice versa?

  • Will

    Tim please do a in depth piece on the O-line and D-line please…

  • KobraKai7474

    I can’t believe that this is still even a matter for discussion. Assuming Foles is healthy (and hopefully, all of us can agree that is most important here), the second half of the season MUST be about evaluating him.
    Michael Vick is who he is: A guy with amazing natural talents who is injury-prone and who lacks that “six sense” needed to be a great quarterback… not to mention that he is at or near the start of a steep decline due to age. His remaining days in the NFL will almost certainly be as a backup where, if necessary, he can play a few games per year and keep his team competitive until the starter is healthy. Heck, it could even be with the Eagles, but his days of playing every week when those ahead of him are healthy should be over.
    Barkley… I don’t know what to think of him, but, if nothing else, it must be pointed out that was dealt a fantastically raw deal these past two weeks: Being forced into games where his team is trailing; with a game plan that was totally catered to somebody else’s talents (and that the coaches seemed incapable of changing in any meaningful way); and with nary a first team rep in practice during the week. That is totally not his fault, and, heck, I wouldn’t wish that kind of day (let alone two straight weeks of them) on my worst enemy. Regardless, Barkley is young so the Eagles have at least another year to figure out what, if anything, they have with him. Whether as a backup to Foles or to next year’s first round pick, he has the luxury of time.
    Unlike Barkley, the Eagles are running out of time on Nick Foles. For better or worse, the standard in today’s NFL is for young quarterbacks to start as rookies and be on their way to stardom (or to careers as fringe players if that is all their talent allows) by the end of their second year. As recently as the Tampa Bay game, it appeared that Foles was right where he needed to be. Obviously, that is no longer the case, but 8 games is more than enough time to figure this out. He needs to step up and win over his coach and teammates (and the fans) or the Eagles need to move heaven and earth next spring to ensure that they draft their “quarterback of the future”. Either way, THEY MUST PLAY FOLES NOW!

    • Lippy

      didnt read all that dribble, but I did read you thinking Foles should get his time. Ahhh no he shouldnt and really already showed he is not that good… and definately doesnt fit the chip kelly “O”. If Foles was percieved as worth it he wouldnt have been passed by so many other teams until we drafted him, I am way over Foles or any other mediocre QB. I think you should get over Foles too.

      • KobraKai7474

        I agree that he is probably not that good, but this team isn’t going anywhere anyway. If…. and that is a HUGE if… Vick gets and stays healthy, maybe…. just maybe… this team can win an extra game or two. Yes, they can even squeeze into the playoffs…. and, then, Vick leaves as a free agent, and the Eagles start off 2014 with no idea if Foles is an NFL QB, which raises the specter of ANOTHER lost season spent learning that Nick Foles is NOT a guy to build a team around. Let’s learn that now, and, then, if we have to, draft our QB of the future next spring. THEN, we can talk about Super Bowls again. Until we know who are QB is likely to be for the next 10 years, this team is spinning its wheels.

  • Max Lightfoot

    I will catch flak for this but I do not care. This is a rebuilding year, pure and simple, from the ground up – not a playoff year. We are several years away from the playoffs. We need about two more good drafts, including a real NFL QB, before that becomes a reality.

    Right now, we are a 6-10 team, just slightly better than last season. So far, we are on track for that. All this fan agony and high drama results from fans believing that we can win the division this year and advance in the playoffs – it’s fool’s gold. Real, solid growth is slow and rather painful, and that’s through the draft, not through trades or free agency.

    And yes, I am a loyal Eagles fan – have been since 1967. If you think the current Eags are bad, you should have seen them in the 1970s.

    • Will

      5-11 team at best….The right QB is a must, I like Nick Foles gets another chance. D-Line got tweaked, leaves QB ( depending on what Foles does with this next chance), O-Line (Center/Guard), OLB’s, CB, FS, SS….

      • Andy124

        I think that 5-11 may well be the most likely record, but it’s not the “best”. I don’t think 7-9 is unrealistic at all. Especially if the offense gets back to it’s early season form and the defense continues to achieve mediocrity.

        8-8 would surprise me.

        • Will

          Minn,Wash ….after that tough going….where do you see 2 more W’s ? Oak,GB, WAS,ARZ,DET,MINN,CHI,DAL….Say Vick’s out till Dec 1st after the bye week…

          • nicksaenz1

            We could easily be in both games against CHI and DAL. Win, who knows, but they aren’t consistent teams and we already showed the D can slow down DAL. Granted, Demarco Murray might change that a little, but not that much.

          • Andy124

            I was going with the Raiders and Cardinals as potential wins. I wouldn’t hold my breath against Chicago.

          • nicksaenz1

            Redskins beat them. I’m not holding my breath, but I’m definitely not ruling it out.

    • cliff henny

      6-10, better than last yr, o-line learning new blocking scheme, skill players learning system, defense switching from 4-3 to 3-4, using about 75% of Reids players due to cap restrictions that will be gone this off-season. kelly isnt miracle worker. get qb,give him a yr, by ’15, hopefully be right back in the hunt for NFC champ games. i want the eagles to win as much as the next fan, but in general, 1 yr turn arounds dont work. those 4-12 to 12-4 usually bounce back and struggle.
      .
      i started in late 70′s…marion campbell days were a little rough too.

    • theycallmerob

      Don’t know why you’d catch flak for that….nothing you said is untrue. But in a “breaking news in 140 characters or less world”, it’s not good enough.

      Louis CK does a great bit on our overall patience as a society, with relation to cell service and other things. For some reason, it always makes me think of sports fans too.

      ….Carlin keeps me sane :)

    • KobraKai7474

      Agree 100%. Going into this season, my sincere hope was that this team would play better in the final 8 games than they did in the first 8 games and, thus, show that things were going in the right direction. The QB situation makes that less likely at least with the offense, but I still think that is quite possible (and maybe even likely) with the defense and that would be a great thing because with another draft or two (along with a sprinkling of free agents… hopefully better ones than this past years’ crop) that could mean we have a darn good 3-4 defense for the foreseeable future. As for the offense, as big a mess as it is right now, I believe that we have seen enough to know that, with a healthy and viable QB, it will move the ball and score points so we just need to do whatever is necessary (including the proverbial “Godfather offer” on draft day if that is what is required) to have our QB in place next September, whoever he may be.

    • Max Lightfoot

      Well, I guess I pre-overreacted to my own post (if that’s possible), but I do appreciate the comments to my original post. Happy to see that I’m not alone in my realistic assessment. Things will get better, and then we’ll enjoy that all the more when it finally does.

  • KobraKai7474

    I totally understand where Chip Kelly is coming from. In the NFL, coaches are hired for one thing and one thing only: winning…, and coaches simply don’t make it to this level without being fairly obsessed with it. As such, it would be foolish to expect Chip Kelly to do anything but start whichever available players give him the best chance to win this Sunday… and all other game days this year. If the team thinks it is best for the franchise to risk losing a few more games to allow them to evaluate Foles or Barkley (and I think they should but that is just me), it is the General Manager’s or Owner’s job to make that call. It is NOT Chip Kelly’s job to make that decision. He was hired to win, nothing more and nothing less. If the team wants him to go into “rebuilding” or “evaluation” mode with this season, they need to tell him so… and, quite frankly, they need to tell him that his employment will not suffer as a result. Otherwise, they need to let him… and I can’t resist quoting Herman Edwards here… “play to win the game”.

  • dislikedisqus

    No offense to the profession but there’s really no benefit from having so many press conferences.

  • Wilbert M.

    G.J. Kinne’s in the mix!!!! I knew he was the answer!